Apex Legends Netcode Changes

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Battle(non)sense

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@nether079
@nether079 5 жыл бұрын
Literally the most informative and coherent videos regarding Netcode
@booblaa9734
@booblaa9734 5 жыл бұрын
Yet no views because it doesn't have a clickbait title and thumbnail.
@dusanbiga4948
@dusanbiga4948 5 жыл бұрын
Epic Shneak Or because netcode is something people dont know anything about or are even remotely interested in.
@booblaa9734
@booblaa9734 5 жыл бұрын
@@dusanbiga4948 Also that.
@dusanbiga4948
@dusanbiga4948 5 жыл бұрын
@uP-Andre Expected
@LightTrack-
@LightTrack- 5 жыл бұрын
@uP-Andre But...they did fix Pathfinder's hitbox.
@ruanckruger
@ruanckruger 3 жыл бұрын
Respawn just released a massive blog post about their servers and their decisions. Perhaps a Season 9 netcode and blog analysis would be awesome
@thomassencindiver
@thomassencindiver 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're one of the most underrated people on youtube, you deserve so much more traffic on your channel. Thank you for the informative video and all the work you put into them.
@krocketonboost5236
@krocketonboost5236 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best bro👌🏻
@OddClancy
@OddClancy 5 жыл бұрын
Coming from playing 128 tick on cs for 4k hrs, and trying to get in this game, I just feel as if none of my bullets hit where I'm aiming. 20 tick is disgusting.
@Dirt33breaks
@Dirt33breaks 5 жыл бұрын
Same here, my bullets just go straight through the enemies and they shoot me round corners lol it's a total mess
@iM7SnaKe
@iM7SnaKe 5 жыл бұрын
try to play with a wingman and cry, in the first month of the game i was a god with it even with that shitty netcode, now the matchmaker puts me in some shitty regions and i can't land a shot so i'm stuck with r99 and spray and pray.
@Shiro-gt1cu
@Shiro-gt1cu 5 жыл бұрын
@@iM7SnaKe You were ''god'' with it first month because it's firerate was broken
@iM7SnaKe
@iM7SnaKe 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shiro-gt1cu even after the nerf. the bad with it starts after the netcode got worst. i was shoting one standing still and none of my shot were registered. if they move it's a nightmare with this tickrate.
@nisu1918
@nisu1918 5 жыл бұрын
N. C. Me too. Sometimes I even hear the sound of the enemies got hit, but no registration. Wingman is so inconsistent now.
@TWEEMASTER2000
@TWEEMASTER2000 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I knew this game felt more off recently and thought I was crazy. The amount of work you do does not go unnoticed, keep up the great stuff!
@top1percent424
@top1percent424 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommended this video. Dude, your channel has extremely useful videos for all online gamers. Thanks a ton!
@James-fl3sn
@James-fl3sn 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, thank you SO MUCH for this video and the previous one. Very informative and great explanations. But it has been a long while since the launch of the game and there has been many an update (e.g. you can now change data centres on the main screen). Please could you do another analysis to see if over a year of active players, updates and development as been in the favour of Apex's net code.
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
➜ Netcode 101: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npqrgWOEYs-Arpo ➜ Bufferbloat video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHuYXpeZbtGUrpI
@raven_au
@raven_au 5 жыл бұрын
On PC, there is a way to access region selection. When you first open the game and get the "left click to continue" screen there should be accessibility options at the bottom left. Open that menu for a few mins (2-5 mins should be enough) then close the accessibility menu. Magically there is a server button next to Accessibility that should appear. Allowing you to see all the pings to available servers as well as select a specific server.
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I showed that in my first video. But that is not what I am asking for / is required. The game needs a region selection directly in the main menu for everyone to access easily. Also, the ping to the datacenters isn't accurate in the current region selection window. :)
@raven_au
@raven_au 5 жыл бұрын
@@BattleNonSense that certainly would be a lot more useful! Anyway thanks for the videos! This kind of information really helps the community put pressure on the developers to make game performance improvements instead of shelling out update after update with stupid weapon re-skins 🤣.
@DeathStarLuke
@DeathStarLuke 5 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for this content. This is incredibly valuable information, and I greatly appreciate all of your effort.
@Arassar
@Arassar 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez 20 hz tickrate is just awful.
@chrisbenn
@chrisbenn 5 жыл бұрын
That is normal for Battle Royal games! PUBg and Forrtnite got big with super trash tickrate!
@GaSevilha
@GaSevilha 5 жыл бұрын
It may be normal, but it's still bad as fuck
@onetwo3706
@onetwo3706 5 жыл бұрын
Americans being fat AF is 'normal'
@PatGamingApasStyle
@PatGamingApasStyle 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenn those became popular because u don't see many people complaining about getting shot behind cover.
@Szmajdzik
@Szmajdzik 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenn PUBG: 30/60 Fortnite: 30/60 Blackout: 20/60. Do some research first before writing bullshit on Internet and making yourself dumb.
@justingathright1670
@justingathright1670 5 жыл бұрын
👍!👍! Great work like always. Its nice to be informed on whats really happening from the technical side of the game.
@melvintje
@melvintje 4 жыл бұрын
And one year later, not much had changed, hope you will do a updated version of this
@BladeWalker91
@BladeWalker91 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris! Love your videos! Can you maybe teach us how to use Wire Shark to analyse our ping and server refresh rate? That way we as a community can collect more datasets on popular games as well as analyse server performance on some niche games that are not worth the effort to make video about. Would love to hear your thoughts. 🙌
@bmd103
@bmd103 5 жыл бұрын
respawns lack of acknowledgement on this issue is telling. If they dont at least mention the problem by season 2 im out. Anyway thanks for the vid, lets hope the devs see it!
@chrisbenn
@chrisbenn 5 жыл бұрын
But it is how all Battle Royal games are! 20 or 10 tick rate!
@SchlagerFreund
@SchlagerFreund 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think they are capable of fixing it or coming up with a solid foundation. All FPS from Respawn are plagued with fundamental issues in the netcode area. Same with Titanfall 1 and 2. They should really invest in hiring some capable people or spend money in training their devs.
@whistlingpuddle.4983
@whistlingpuddle.4983 5 жыл бұрын
They lack acknowledgement of anything. They're an awful company.
@qiyuxuan9437
@qiyuxuan9437 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenn I think bf5 firestorm and pubg is 60tick rate tho.
@oli11ltra34
@oli11ltra34 5 жыл бұрын
lets hope devs not acting like they didnt see it
@joelmorningstar3645
@joelmorningstar3645 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I love your channel so much. I wish I was in more of a position to support you.
@Sufinsil
@Sufinsil 5 жыл бұрын
PC Patch, June 20th, 2019: Datacenter improvements to make the list easier to understand and use: List will be sorted by ping by default. The selected data center will be highlighted in orange. Focused/hovered data centers will still be highlighted in grey. Right clicking a data center will no longer make it look selected Right click wouldn't actually select the data center but would still highlight the selection which could be confusing.Clients will now send user input to the server at a higher rate. Bug, part of hit reg fix And just to clear up some confusing wording in these posts: We have always sampled user input once every client frame. We have always sent them to the server in batches. The rate of the client sending those batches was accidentally lowered from 60hz to 20hz, and now it's 60hz or even slightly more now. We aren't sending more usercmds than we used to, but we will send each one multiple times now, which will help users with upstream packet loss. Since we're sending them more often, it means the server will get more of them before each cutoff to run the frame, so it should have a modest reduction in latency. -Jon Shiring, Lead Engineer. /r/apexlegends
@briskvy
@briskvy 5 жыл бұрын
@uP-Andre It is not dying.
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate 5 жыл бұрын
@@briskvy It is, the game needs massive improvements, i defended this shit for months, whatever patch made matchmaking even worse than before needs to be reverted, its borderline unplayable, I've never died around corners like i have this past month... No other games have this issue so its not my interent, i have fibre 300 lmao
@briskvy
@briskvy 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnimosityIncarnate Cool
@Dirt33breaks
@Dirt33breaks 5 жыл бұрын
I Played the game for first time in 3 months last Friday, it was a horribly mess!! Rubber banding, random team mates disconnecting, incredibly bad hit registration! unAnd I did not see any connection error icons come up. It was totally unplayable!! I had to uninstall it after 6 matches. Ur right Chris! The Dev don't care or see it as a problem, I watch US players playing the game and they don't seem to have a problem with it. And respawn only care what the us peeps think. I have a great fiber connection with ping of 2 to my ISP and 19 to apex European server. The issue is not my setup, I have no issues in any other games
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 5 жыл бұрын
I experience very similar problems as well. I had little to no issues during the first month of the game. I started playing yesterday after a 2 month break and now everything feels so damn broken!
@lightning6778
@lightning6778 5 жыл бұрын
Dirteebreaks lol 😂 are you sure about what you just said mate,don’t get me wrong it’s definitely bad but not as bad as your making it out to be in your emotional rant.
@resresres1
@resresres1 5 жыл бұрын
Damn your videos are so good. You really should have more subscribers. Can't think of anyone else that delves into this kind of information.
@Psweezy14
@Psweezy14 5 жыл бұрын
This explains why I have been getting kicked about halfway through games! I live in a rural area, good internet is hard to come by, and I have very much noticed this change affecting my gameplay. I immediately noticed. I hope the devs will improve upon this, but it doesn’t look like it’s moving in the right direction. Thank you for the very informative video!
@valkaerion
@valkaerion 5 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see if any improvements were made in the Season 2 update as it was a large update and there was also an update before that that included datacenter stuff 👍 Keep up the great work!
@Mrmark154
@Mrmark154 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!! Seems that Respawn has addressed some of your points. I’d love to see an update video to see if there’s been any optimisations in regards to the networking.
@DanielPeraalta
@DanielPeraalta 4 жыл бұрын
wow, i'm astonished with the amount of information you transmitted thank you very much! that explains it all.
@boatymcboatface45yearsago59
@boatymcboatface45yearsago59 5 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that over the course of the last month Apex has been lagging way more than when it came out
@quincyloogs1421
@quincyloogs1421 5 жыл бұрын
Bro fr it was unplayable for like a whole week and I know it’s not my internet because ik I have good internet the net code is just poor
@bravesirrobinn
@bravesirrobinn 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up about this, I’ve been looking everywhere on apex legends and respawn twitter and forums and they haven’t talked about it once even though the is the #1 biggest problem with the game currently e.g. I keep getting switched to Salt Lake City server even though I live near London and when I change it back to London I get constant code leaf errors generally unplayable game atm
@papawolf4
@papawolf4 Жыл бұрын
Season 16 and nothing changed ......
@Sagesat
@Sagesat Жыл бұрын
EA and Respawn 🤡
@vivekpal1004
@vivekpal1004 4 жыл бұрын
Please do another one. Season 5 launches on May 12. Server performance has improved and they now let you choose server on the start screen (but don't take that selection for granted, some people said game sometimes puts on different server than the one you selected).
@wh173
@wh173 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, and unfortunately most times I bring up this issue on reddit I get downvoted and brigaded by people defending the game and the developers. Most players dont see an issue, so players that think this is unacceptable wont get a better game.
@johnveracruz2102
@johnveracruz2102 5 жыл бұрын
You can choose the data server location you want. You just need to wait in the main menu for about 45 seconds or 1 minute then go to the accessibility options and move the cursor around the options without changing them. Then go back to the main menu and press r3 on PS4 and you’ll see the data centers. Then you get to pick the data centers which is best for you.
@lazy4u1
@lazy4u1 5 жыл бұрын
@battle(non)sense you can pick your server in the 1st screen that appears that says continue, been that way since season one, now you can hit Tab in that screen to bring up servers list instead of waiting for it to show up in bottom
@sponzimusic
@sponzimusic 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think that enabling DMZ can help with gaming connectivity issues?
@cryonim
@cryonim 5 жыл бұрын
In p2p connection games yes, otherwise games do work even without open ports, albeit laggy. Opening individual ports is your only option there as DMZ is straight up inviting hackers.
@sponzimusic
@sponzimusic 5 жыл бұрын
@@cryonim Thanks for your answer, how about UPNP?
@DarrenPC
@DarrenPC 5 жыл бұрын
Respawn have had an unfilled position opening for a Senior Network Engineer open for a while now. I wonder if the lack of updates are due to lack of knowledgeable manpower that could fix and improve their issues?
@mygoogleaccount2354
@mygoogleaccount2354 5 жыл бұрын
Dude.....they've been owned by a Publisher valued at 8 Billion USD for a while now. There's zero fucking excuses for this
@dhkatz_
@dhkatz_ 5 жыл бұрын
That's complete bullshit. If a company needs a position filled, they will get it filled. That's clearly not the reason. The position is probably just passively looking
@readeh
@readeh 5 жыл бұрын
The first Titanfall was 10-15 tick and while the second Titanfall improved a lot it just wasn't good enough. The source engine can do much better, but for some reason Respawn always half-ass it.
@aondw
@aondw 5 жыл бұрын
@@readeh I don't think the sourceengine as it is can do much better, the CS battle royal is only 18 players probably because it can't handle more players at 60Hz
@readeh
@readeh 5 жыл бұрын
@@aondw Source can handle it. The problem is Apex is using cloud servers, which makes sense considering the many players, but a dedicated server could easily handle 60 hz. Even in Titanfall with the small amount of players on a server they went with low tickrate which is disappointing.
@GioventuBruciata9297
@GioventuBruciata9297 5 жыл бұрын
On console you can select your region, dunno if on pc is the same but after you open the game, before you click continue to enter the pre-game lobby, you gotta wait 1 minute then click continue and spam back untill the continue button appears again, you'll notice on the bottom appears also the voice "data center", open that and it will let you choose the server you want to play in
@ZenXanBoB
@ZenXanBoB 3 жыл бұрын
We need this once season 10 drops 🙏🙏
@jevrybezauspvp8495
@jevrybezauspvp8495 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make an updated video? I'm curious to see what has changed
@LexLoewenherz
@LexLoewenherz 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have an updated video cause now some of the features are in.
@jeffhallinan5055
@jeffhallinan5055 5 жыл бұрын
Are you making a new video about this? I think they just upgraded the netcode
@TX51
@TX51 5 жыл бұрын
You do some great work! I wish I could do more for your channel. Good work should be rewarded.
@maku4814
@maku4814 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Battle(non)sense. Is there any chance that you will do another Escape From Tarkov netcode analysis? There were many netcode and performance fixes since you've done your last test, I'm pretty sure that the whole community would LOVE to see another vid. Especially that your last test brought great changes to the game! Thanks for your work!
@chrisbenn
@chrisbenn 5 жыл бұрын
But! Did the Escape From Tarkov guys not get super unprofessional and threatened him for saying bad things about there game? Or was there not some kind of drama?
@maku4814
@maku4814 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenn Yeah, there was some drama, I don't really care tbh, I just wanna see how much did EFT improve ( or didn't ) since then.
@chrisbenn
@chrisbenn 5 жыл бұрын
@@maku4814 Yes yes but I am sure Chris cares! And that's the point! :) Not you and if you care or not! :)
@tensetek9444
@tensetek9444 5 жыл бұрын
What's the status of the netcode now? Season 3 change anything?
@alexr9030
@alexr9030 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that explains a lot . this is why I got shot the other day from a long distance and I was just about to hide myself but got shot when the other player was not even seeing me. Since the patch the netcode got worse but also the sound got worse. Before the patch I could really pinpoint the enemy in 5.1 surround sound , now the sound is so diffuse and crappy you don't know where the enemy is coming from.
@lazy4u1
@lazy4u1 5 жыл бұрын
maybe another follow up video?, id like to see if anything has changed, thx
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 5 жыл бұрын
I really think that they just don't have the experience optimizing their network that other companies have. The 20hz updates don't help the network delay much either. They really need to hire some experienced network programmers to help improve their current netcode and try to get the server tick up to even 30hz. Reducing packet sizes would also be very helpful.
@zTrueFear
@zTrueFear 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best as always! I don’t know if you know it but you can change the server by doing a trick in the pre-lobby menu, but i have no confirmation about if it works or it just fakes you to chose the server. Also some of these icons are shown when the server has some problem, resulting in all the players having bad connection and the red icon showing ( i ve noticed this on ps4 by playing with friends) I’ve always said that the problem with this game are the resources, they didn’t expect so much hype from it and since the beginning they rushed fixing all the problems with few devs imo (if you compare respawn with other main competitors). EA which could have helped with a lot of finance haven’t done a thing if not applying their ridiculous esports policy, without considering that this game is 100% not ready for competitive.
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I know - I showed that in the first video. But what I am asking for is an option in the main menu for everyone to access easily. A server performance icon (like battlefield has) would also be very useful to know when its the server that is failing.
@ZeroShift9K
@ZeroShift9K 3 жыл бұрын
would love to see another one of these for the upcoming season
@QruCiaL.
@QruCiaL. 5 жыл бұрын
Damn near every gun battle I engage in the Prediction Error icon pops up. The enemy starts moving erratically, my bullets stop registering, and sometimes I get the kill, sometimes I don't. I had cable internet and this problem never occurred, I upgraded to fiber and now this is all I see.
@kyousey
@kyousey 5 жыл бұрын
The hit registration patch late in May was very nice, then this stupid netcode revamped ruined it
@arandomrcreature
@arandomrcreature 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding you being placed on USA servers, currently theres a bug with the Matchmaker, you can fix it by going to the splash screen, press esc then cancel, wait 40 seconds, do it again then at the bottom of your screen there will be "data center" button to the right of accessibility options and you can manually select the best server for you which should fix the bug untill respawn fixes it
@baisansebastian3358
@baisansebastian3358 4 жыл бұрын
Will sadly have to disagree that the 4 symbols you mentioned depend on the player's connection moreso than the servers. You have entire servers suffering from prediction errors/rubberbanding right after dropping. This means that either 60 handicaps with poor connection got matched together(highly unlikely,since almost everyone runs on fiber these days,even in small cities where it finally got installed),or the servers are having issues.
@typicallyme5303
@typicallyme5303 5 жыл бұрын
I love this game but I'm getting to a point where I don't want to play it anymore as is
@chiorupch8047
@chiorupch8047 5 жыл бұрын
tnx a lot man for all your infos and really apreciate your efforts !
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 5 жыл бұрын
Since the most recent patch 2 weeks ago on Xbox the game will connect to different servers seemingly at random but most often to the default Salt Lake City server. For a UK player that means 200 ping and everyone warping all over the place. Even after manually changing to UK servers I've had US teammates on voicechat super frustrated about the extreme lag, so it seems US players are being auto connected to Europe too. I think they have messed up the autodetection for the best server and it is either defaulting or getting incorrect pings/packet loss readings. That it has now been over 2 weeks without a change despite it ruining the gameplay for every casual player that doesn't know how to manually change the server, it's probably devastating the casual playerbase numbers.
@mounir347
@mounir347 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Algeria (North Africa) we get matchmaked in eu everytime, we get 70 to 100 ms ping in apex legends for some reason ( usually it's 40-55 in bf1 and cod) also we get disconnected at least 3 or 4 times before you can join a server with a shitty ping. This happens to everyone here and in every platform.
@OmegaProxima
@OmegaProxima 5 жыл бұрын
A big thank you for everything you are doing.
@itZSaint099
@itZSaint099 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Always love what you do. Can you do a netcode analysis of Rainbow Six Siege?
@DeCapitanOG
@DeCapitanOG 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis of Hunt Showdown? Game feels pretty good I'm curious as to if the numbers back that up.
@DeCapitanOG
@DeCapitanOG 5 жыл бұрын
@CREED check again it just had influx of new players thx to a free weekend and it's fantastic game.
@DeCapitanOG
@DeCapitanOG 5 жыл бұрын
@CREED sounds like a personal problem.
@DeCapitanOG
@DeCapitanOG 5 жыл бұрын
@CREED cool personal experience.
@HarvinGaming
@HarvinGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Not even stretching it to 10 min without content to gain that extra ad money.... what a legend
@SoftyakaBlade
@SoftyakaBlade 5 жыл бұрын
Great video , next stop Battalion 1944 netcode analysis !
@alvarovega3253
@alvarovega3253 5 жыл бұрын
I am dissapointed with the network performance in 3 months, Question, Respawn at least tried to contact with you about this? Because you are good in this. Regards
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
While I have contacts at other studios and publishers, I never talked to anyone from Respawn Entertainment.
@TheBorsMistral
@TheBorsMistral 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the June 20 patch with it's "Clients will now send user input to the server at a higher rate" did anything...
@wirsindkrass
@wirsindkrass 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, did you check for updates on the netcode of Apex Legends? Many people don't trust "old" data.
@zeron4eg
@zeron4eg 5 жыл бұрын
can you pls test apex legends now? with season 4 seems server tickrate is up. or just registration of hits seems better. thank you
@ouchhurts
@ouchhurts 4 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt i walk around corners still getting shot with low latency lol
@oli11ltra34
@oli11ltra34 5 жыл бұрын
i live in germany and i have on both of the 2 frankfurt servers 4-6 % packet loss while my pings 20-30 is this normal? how can i fix? 106 down 2 up?
@xoxo80677
@xoxo80677 5 жыл бұрын
Oli 11ltra I live in France and botc of Francfort servers are at 13 ping 0 packet loss for me, my wi-fi speed is mediocre tho it’s like 60mb/s, you should check on your router I guess
@oli11ltra34
@oli11ltra34 5 жыл бұрын
Tymur Xoxo i installed „speedify“ and chose to pick fastest server. now i got 70 instead of 105 mbits but 0 packet loss. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@kayonex-2461
@kayonex-2461 5 жыл бұрын
It's the same for me. Low ping (20ms) and no packet loss on the Frankfurt server no. 1, but low ping (22ms) and packet loss (7%) on the Frankfurt server no. 2. Yet, both servers play very laggy and could not distinguish them. All around this game is almost unenjoyable for me. I die around corners, shots don't register on opponents... Business as usual, I guess! Most other games run fine.
@JustKiiro
@JustKiiro 5 жыл бұрын
I love your content dude, I've learned so much from you
@Ghandjaloodah
@Ghandjaloodah 2 жыл бұрын
Your vidoes are really good, could you do an updated version on the state of Apex as of now? I think a lot of people would be very interested in seeing that.
@herdumderdum1764
@herdumderdum1764 5 жыл бұрын
How can a modern game even have 20 tick rate that is almost silly
@sciencetablet2634
@sciencetablet2634 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always.
@RogueMonkeyJr
@RogueMonkeyJr 5 жыл бұрын
The performance indicator I suffer from the most is the ''Prediction Error'' one, and it just feels awful to play when I experience these...
@TheApotheCarrot
@TheApotheCarrot 5 жыл бұрын
The new 20 tick client rate is really messing with me. Frequently my shots do not connect (at least 20% of the time)
@Irion81
@Irion81 5 жыл бұрын
Respawn released a patch to bump up the client sent rate back to 60hz?!
@top1percent424
@top1percent424 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what I read too in patch notes.
@JagsP95
@JagsP95 5 жыл бұрын
@@imoonjs what
@BobaTea702
@BobaTea702 5 жыл бұрын
Most annoying shit is when you get loot stolen from you when you know you got there first.
@WaveOne11
@WaveOne11 4 жыл бұрын
Chris please could you do some thorough tests about how apex is handling the connections. I and numerous others have been expreriencing ridiculous lags when playing the game on a pre made squad. When playing solo with randoms the game works very fine and smoothly. There must be some shitty peer to peer shenanigans going on here. You can find numerous threads about this subject. You are our only hope.
@digitalillustration604
@digitalillustration604 5 жыл бұрын
They seem don't invest too much resource on this game.
@reallydontlikethem
@reallydontlikethem 5 жыл бұрын
its because the success at launch evaporated very quickly. it is honestly smart for them to stop working on Apex since nobody is ever going back.
@ikhsanhasbi657
@ikhsanhasbi657 5 жыл бұрын
They screwed when they paid streamers millions for short burst of popularity instead of using that resource to provide better content to gain long term interest of players.
@victorotero3157
@victorotero3157 5 жыл бұрын
@@ikhsanhasbi657 they didn't care much they even stated they didn't expect the game to become so popular in short period of time. And knowing they did they killed themselves bringing a battle pass that was garbage when people waited over a month having high expectations not a lame battle pass that isn't worth buying. I dont play the game do to communication and netcode not worth my time
@Gino_567
@Gino_567 5 жыл бұрын
@@reallydontlikethem Sounds like you've got it all figured out. Including player numbers... :-|
@ikhsanhasbi657
@ikhsanhasbi657 5 жыл бұрын
@@victorotero3157 yup, the battle pass is absolute garbage. So much trash like stat trackers that nobody gives a shit about. Skins for characters and weapons are also shit, most of them are just recolor of default skins. I stopped playing weeks ago, but I might check back when season 2 drops. Though I have a very low expectation of the game at this point.
@Bozott
@Bozott 5 жыл бұрын
there is a region picker. Its just hidden but you can access it and change your region.
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 5 жыл бұрын
We know, but that's not good enough.
@InvadersDie
@InvadersDie 5 жыл бұрын
He knows, in his previous video he showed how to change it
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
I know that it exists, see my first video. ;-) As you said it is hidden, so is the sort working of netgraph the game has (which very few people know about). My crit is that they do not provide options for everyone to access *easily* - which is required. ;-)
@Dirt33breaks
@Dirt33breaks 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even think it works! I selected western Europe which said my ping was 19 to, but when I went in the game I was put on US servers with 130 ping.
@oatmoped
@oatmoped 5 жыл бұрын
Respawn: hey our netcode is still pretty trashy Also respawn: give them some network indicator icons and now get back working on the next skins and season passes
@lightning6778
@lightning6778 5 жыл бұрын
uP-Andre dude you keep spamming your comments everywhere
@nvidiaplay
@nvidiaplay 4 жыл бұрын
i was playing apex this month and netcode feels terrible,clicks to pick up item very often do not register at all,hitreg seems off too
@sebastiandiazgarrido8500
@sebastiandiazgarrido8500 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see you addressing the netcode issues. This game continues to get worst and the developers seem to not have a plan about fixing the netcode issues and the lack of user options. Some basic options like adjust the brightness in game was added like 2 months after the game launch.
@keremardcl6759
@keremardcl6759 5 жыл бұрын
@Battle(non)sense Could you have a look at newtwork/netcode changes after S3, if there is any?
@prix3379
@prix3379 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid as allways
@jaro3839
@jaro3839 5 жыл бұрын
I play in Australia, and the ANZ region is easily the smallest out of any region population. Yet when I'm playing at 5am (low peak of population), I find my teammates are more regularly coming from the US, even EU and they didn't realise the game put them on the OCE server. How does that work when the OCE region is so small and queue times are long vs US regions being highly populated most of the time?
@Jm_m808
@Jm_m808 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve played with people in Australia, I’m on the west coast of USA
@Bollalillo
@Bollalillo 2 жыл бұрын
and here we are in 2022 and the servers are still the worst gamers have ever seen. spending money is like cryptonite to game developers and publishers
@bazz94__45
@bazz94__45 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a netcode analysis on Insurance Sandstorm. There has been some issues with players feeling like their first few bullets are not registering since one of the updates.
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 5 жыл бұрын
I just started playing Apex again after like 2 months and the game feels so much worse. I get constant prediction errors. I have minor packet loss in this game (Not in other games). I think based on your explanations and the fact that they still haven't fixed packet splitting and now that they have reduced the client side updates to only 23hz, my minor packet loss leads to a lot of prediction errors. The game just feels awful.
@timaloy1532
@timaloy1532 5 жыл бұрын
same here seven games owned by cheats on pc
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 5 жыл бұрын
What do cheats have to do with this???
@Gino_567
@Gino_567 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sevendogtags "awful" is a bit of a stretch. It's not great though.
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 5 жыл бұрын
When your bullets don't register and you get constant prediction errors. It's awful. Smile
@dlusion316
@dlusion316 5 жыл бұрын
I only get these icons at the beginning of the game not during the game. So what does that mean?
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the game when everyone is loading into the map the server seems to struggle a bit which triggers these icons. If there are no icons once the match starts then this means that your connection is below the threshold of what triggers these. I don't want to say that your connection is fine then because the latency icon triggers very late - past ~170ms
@vidaregamingx
@vidaregamingx 5 жыл бұрын
There were a early issue with the game, people could not login. When that was going on, there were a option to chose region servers to connect to. You could use any of the servers/datacenters and see the ping to them. Though it was a added feature, but the next day, the option were removed. This was on PS4.
@shyrokah
@shyrokah 5 жыл бұрын
if you're talking about the datacenters in the title screen it still exists, but only if you wait for around a minute in it and press Escape on PC or L3 or R3 if I'm not mistaken on console.
@timaloy1532
@timaloy1532 5 жыл бұрын
@@shyrokah they dont you can't pick now its been turned off the option stays greyed out think thyey have probably turned sowm servers off keeps putting me in USA and im in uk
@ruanckruger
@ruanckruger 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly respawn is very slow to get any updates/fixes out. It's like they never thought the game would be this successful and never got more staff to fix the game. I really enjoy the game but the lack of communication and slow response times from the devs makes it extremely frustrating, when you die to things that should've been fixed months ago.
@limjaheyatyourcervix1601
@limjaheyatyourcervix1601 5 жыл бұрын
Ruan Kruger they busy working on Jedi fallen order, and I think that’s why apex isn’t getting a lot going on atm.
@ruanckruger
@ruanckruger 5 жыл бұрын
@@limjaheyatyourcervix1601 I thought the same but it's been a few months and with the massive success of the game at the start, surely they should've hired a few more devs to compensate. I don't know, it just feels like they really missed an opportunity to create a long and successful game. They need to act soon
@callum_92
@callum_92 5 жыл бұрын
@@limjaheyatyourcervix1601 they have different teams working on both games
@limjaheyatyourcervix1601
@limjaheyatyourcervix1601 5 жыл бұрын
callum -__- ah that’s true, but still, they do have TF3 in the works, which is probably being taken from the apex team.
@callum_92
@callum_92 5 жыл бұрын
Limjahey At your cervix they also said that they are pushing back any plans for future TF games. All of this was said by respawns exec producer in a reddit post over a month ago, he also talks about hit reg, amount of content/updates and communicating more. Google “an update on apex legends from respawn reddit”.
@Mrtom40
@Mrtom40 5 жыл бұрын
Why do i get the latency icon when i have 410meg down and 20 up on a dedicated Business line and i get a plus on the buffer bloat test
@Menthix
@Menthix 5 жыл бұрын
This is a shame since I was just wondering about returning to Apex, but this proves that everything is the same as before.
@johndoe-gw6tj
@johndoe-gw6tj 5 жыл бұрын
Some how I got a server selection screen IDK how I got it but I think it was just lagging and trying to connect for more then Xmin????
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
See my first Apex Legends video where I show the "trick" to get into the hidden region selection screen.
@AKT_SNP
@AKT_SNP 5 жыл бұрын
Are you able to speculate what could be totall cost of fix or upgrade for netcode in each title?
@IsbjornenGG
@IsbjornenGG 4 жыл бұрын
Good video man
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 4 жыл бұрын
Has it improved since?
@llph0enXll
@llph0enXll 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! Vielen Dank für dein Update-Video. Eine Regionsauswhl ist möglich, wenn auch über Umwege. Du musst ins Hauptmenü, und dort einfach AFK warten, bis du wieder zum Titelschirm geworfen wirst. Unten hast du dann den Punkt Datencenter. Hi Chris! Thanks for your update-video. A region selection is possible, even it is a little bit of a detour. Just enter the main menu, and weit until you get kicked to the title screen for inactivity. There you can choose datacenter. There you can change your region.
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
ich weis das es dieses menü gibt (siehe mein erstes video zu Apex Legends), abgesehen davon dass dieses menü den matchmaker *nicht* dazu zwingt in der gewählten region zu bleiben, ist das keine Lösung da du ja weist was man machen muss damit man das menü überhaupt zu sehen bekommt. :)
@llph0enXll
@llph0enXll 5 жыл бұрын
@@BattleNonSense sorry hatte dein erstes Video nicht mehr so ganz im Kopf. Dass es im Prinzip auf den Matchaker keine Auswirkung hat wusste ich leider nicht.
@OconnorT
@OconnorT 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video and I love apex legends, any chance we could get an update video to see if they fixed anything for season 3?
@malisickran5330
@malisickran5330 3 жыл бұрын
Season 8?
@ngt84
@ngt84 5 жыл бұрын
You can choose server in the starting screen but you have to wait 30 seconds to get to the accesibility options
@BattleNonSense
@BattleNonSense 5 жыл бұрын
I know about that screen as I showed it in the first video. But it is not what I am asking for/is needed. What we need is an option right inside the main menu that is available to everyone. Furthermore, the hidden region selector does not actually force the matchmaker to use just that region.
@klodreck
@klodreck 5 жыл бұрын
Das Thema interessiert mich sehr, leider verstehe ich nur die Hälfte. Was kann ich persönlich verändern um eine höchstmögliche tickrate zu bekommen?
@PlutosZorld_YT
@PlutosZorld_YT 5 жыл бұрын
Every game I play I always get those latency signs.
@namedkenn
@namedkenn 5 жыл бұрын
Finally I know the meaning to those icons 😂
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