Apex Trader Funding 30% Rule! EXPLAINED!

Apex Trader Funding 30% Consistency rule explained after so many questions. Everyone wants to talk about this consistency rule and what it is but most don't understand it. The 30% consistency rule is simple if you trade consistently and follow a similar size risk/reward over the 10 day period.
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[@nacahkeliy]

Patrick I understand exactly what you're saying and it makes sense..... except one thing. 1 to 3 times a month, most full time traders are going to get that "OMG" trade. My trades are very similar to yours in consistency but last Wednesday or Thursday I made $10,000. It was definitely a bogey. You wait for that trade that just won't end. That is why the rule is nonsense. 22 trading days in a month, -$500 to +$1500. Same contract size, 4 micro contracts, yields $8,912 on one trade. This is my fault? I love all that you do, but some rules are for these companies to find a way to not pay.

[@BRAS64076]

Ive heard from a few people if you get denied due to 30% rule all you have to do is contact support and prove that you traded the same strategy and size a few other days in the payout period and they will still approve the payout.

[@nacahkeliy]

@@BRAS64076 That's good to know. But they company should already know this and I bet they absolutely know it and just want to put the pressure on the trader. This rule, in general, in my opinion, is a "BS" rule. Just my opinion.

[@neverevenheardofit]

@@BRAS64076 I've heard the opposite outcome. Anecdotal evidence isn't really helpful.

[@TradesbyNao]

​@@BRAS64076good to know this info.

[@jeffstrong4580]

Consistent profit for trades? If you want consistent pay then get a job. It's rule is for these prop firm and they use these pumper for marketing. FINRA should investigate this.

[@marisehlers9278]

I was looking for info on this and here is your video explaining it and you just released it today. Perfect timing. Thank you!

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@Reiy1999]

Wish Apex can clarify this 30% consistency rule. Glad to hear they allow big trades but trade more days

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@albertshao5670]

Appreciate you for making this video. Thank you.

[@inthezone2023]

Apex is ok but it's model is designed to ensure traders buy as many accounts as possible..that is upto 20 max...key driver here being you can't withdrawal maximum amount for the first 3 months so you want more money..get more acc, you can't make more than 30% of the intended withdrawal amount, you can only withdraw twice a month, and of course the discounts they offer..to enable traders buy as many accounts as possible..though they know many traders blow accounts as quickly as they get them

[@MattsTrades7]

Facts

[@arnoldsujankatru1734]

Lol that means you are not a profitable trader. If you make money it doesn’t matter. I blew 17 evals I’m up 5 PAs all are more than 3000$ on all. And the 3 months is a good time so we are consistent in making profits uf we are so for 3 months that means we know how to trade ,not gambling the news traders. They look for the long term game.

[@Rooz-zs4qs]

Agree, they make much money from activation fees

[@serayahwashington2643]

What do you like beside apex ?

[@trevaFtrev]

Well learn how to be profitable and consistent and it won’t be a problem. Apex pays out millions of dollars a month so that money has to come from somewhere.

[@oscarloaiza1111]

GREAT VIDEO MAN Thanks for the clear explanation and examples!! Just subscribed

[@andreasraabe4737]

Is it possible to accesss to that spreadsheet somehow? Looks like a good tool for tracking the accounts..

[@visla84]

are you actually trading or just account cycling? do you have an edge in trading ?

[@zoeylife2]

Another video said if on a 25k account my larger amount i can make is 1500 x .3 so if i make more it moves my target up that much farther. Explain that.

[@a-designers5539]

hi sir we have a problem apex not having my country algeria ,can you please ask them to add some countries or can i just register with another country that am no in pleaaaase some one help me

[@TinkerandBuild]

Good explaning. People worry about the wrong things SOOO many times. Be consistent, learn every single day, and get better.. Keep moving forward and dont' look back. THanks for the the great explanation.

[@ulisesramirez8336]

Do you know of anyone that has traded the 3 months and has requested a large payout and actually got it?

[@carron80]

I understand.. It seems like the responses are given from what you cant do.. Can't have more than this amount etc. My question is based on this how do you increase contract size and still get paid.. Say I start with 1 contract ($20) @ 200 pts./day making $4k a day.. How do I move up to 2 or 50 or 100 contracts and still get paid? Do I move up at the start of a 10 day?

[@stevenguarnieri9300]

Yea but today was a perfect example...a trend day. So got long 2 contract NQ and total profit was 10k ...so if I only made on avg. 2k what happens to that beautiful trade we all dream of. ??? Do they actually expect you to cut it short?

[@Katy11herrera]

If you used the same size and strategy, they should pay you based on what I understand of how that rule works.

[@stevenguarnieri9300]

@@Katy11herreraCool, I would really hope so. I've heard them say they are for the trader as they started as traders and still are. They def shouldn't penalize you for catching a great entry and having the trade trend.

[@neverevenheardofit]

Yes, they expect you to cut it short. You will likely be denied if it's over 30%

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

Sell and re-enter. Make it two trades.

[@JdogShawn]

falls off after three months

[@nrr26000]

Hi, I have a question if you traded 16 days and took payout then you need another 4 days for 2nd payout or another 10 days again ?

[@neverevenheardofit]

Another 10

[@LolaizaJazzmine]

Love your explanation. Simple

[@zurixiailtrssx3370]

What if my first day I made only 17$ what now?

[@MrJonnboi]

Hi can you answer this question for me I’ve got a 250k account live I’ve made 9k in 2 days on seperate trades do I just keep trading making the same profit daily till the 10 days is up

[@leightonmcfarlane3005]

I think the maximum you should be making daily on a 250k account is the minimum balance for payout 6600 X 0.3 = 1980.

[@kbrrjq9450]

Please Is there any news about the funded trader?

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@ShahrukhKhan-lk2pb]

apologies if this has been answered before. so when you get the payout denied, does that mean that you loose that money that got denied and willl never get it back ?

[@jarkody]

I was denied once and the money is still there. You just have to use a calculator to figure out how what your numbers are and try again 8 days later. Kimmel Trading has a free calculator spreadsheet that gives you exact numbers to satisfy the 30% rule.

[@sgcontrol1]

Question. I was making $950 per day for 4 days then on the fifth day I traded during news. I did not know it was news and placed a sell limit only. It ended up hitting my take profit but i made $4869. How much would I need get it back up to 30% and would I still get a payout

[@Yancyik]

How it go?

[@thabangsebopetsa6813]

My question is , if i have a 50k acc how much must i make a day for 10 days to stay in the 30% consistency rule

[@BRAS64076]

No single trading day can account for more than 30% of account balance. So $3,000 day with a $10,000 account balance is 30%...... $3 day with a $10 account balance is still 30%....... you can make as much as you want, but if you have a single day that is more than 30% of account balance you will have to explain why and prove you did same size and strategy as you normally do and should still get payout if you cant you have to keep trading until account balance is up enough that the big day isnt 30% of balance anymore...... 50k account needs to make 2600 to get a payout... 2600 / 10 days = $260 a day..... or max trade size if only going to make 2600 minimum is 2600x0.30 = $780 max daily gain then the rest of the 9 days you need to make $1820 ($2600 - $780=$1820) so that means $1820 / 9days = $202 a day average..... but if you just trade consistantly (the same way every trade) you really shouldnt have an issue with the 30% rule because even if you break the 30% rule you can just prove that you traded like every other day and your payout will still get approved.

[@justincortez6868]

you can make as much as you want its just when you go to pay out it cant be more than 30 percent on a single day of trading. So lets say you make 15k in 10 days. 10000 times 30 percent is 3000. So if you go to request 10k none of yours trades for a single day can be more than 3k for a single day. Does that make sense?

[@tonyaguilar2151]

Nah can you explained it another way. How did you get the 10k?​@justincortez6868

[@HotPotatoMusic]

Is that 30% rule for all your accounts combined or for each one? And does it start when you have your live account or do they already check how you did pass your evaluation on the demo account?

[@justincortez6868]

30 percent counts for each one individually, not together. So for instance he was using as an example he makes 20k and the 30% rule says, that 6k he could not have made that much in ONE single trading day if he were to request 6k out. Which as you can see he was being "consistent" 2500 here 1k there 3900 there ect. None of it was above 6k. So he could even request the full 20k if he wanted to cause none of his trades were more than 6k in a single trading day. So that exact rules applies to each other acct individually not together. So he could have made another 20k on another account for a combined total of 40k but the rule applies separately to each account. Not together. Hope this helps.

[@10TomMead]

Can someone explain how to work this out please?

[@SB-by2iv]

In your first 3 months of trading with a funded account take your highest gain day and divide by .30. You can't request a payout until your account reaches that amount. So if your biggest day is $1500 then you are stuck with not being able to request a payout until your account reaches 1500/.3= $4500 for the first 3 payout months.

[@SB-by2iv]

If you reach $4500 and pull out $500 your next payout request still requires $4500 minimum balance in the first 3 months.

[@justincortez6868]

@@SB-by2iv thats not how that works. By the 10th day which if your account is at 10k at the time, which im using 10days cause thats how long trading is required from APEX before a payout. And you want to request at least 6k of that leaving 4k in your account for some cushion. 6k times 30 percent is 1800. Your biggest day CAN NOT be more than 1800. If your biggest day is below 1800 then you are good.

[@Skeeterz71]

So, if I understand, I am not confined to 30% of the account size/drawdown size I originally had. Say for a 25k account with 1500 drawdown I am not limited to three trades at $450. I can have three bigger trades say 1k and still meet the 30% rule. Is this correct?

[@zoeylife2]

Following too. Did you get this answered?

[@jarkody]

Apex wants traders to be as consistent as a robot with an inconsistent market 😅. Does NQ move the exact same way everyday? Still, I’m gonna use a calculator spreadsheet and do my best to get the thousands of dollars I’ve made so far.

[@burny90]

Wait, you guys make money?😮

[@Rollbackwalmart]

Is apex paying you outside of your payouts???

[@Jacobgribbin]

I made 7,000$ in one day, then flipped micros, now payout denied. How do I solve this? Do I have to trade up to 24,000$ in profit now?

[@SosaTheProducer]

cant do that. idk the calculations tho. gotta consistency. youll just be flagged as sus. with myfundedfutueres u can do that tho

[@shemarspencer6093]

When payout is denied do you lose the account? Or you have to trade 10 more days adhering to the consistency rule to get payout?

[@aslanquliyev9143]

I gott the same problem with 50.000 account made 1,700 in 1 day and the rest of the days i did smal trades and i didnt gett payout they calling me gambler lol

[@airtac.6979]

Hey, This just happened to me I requested a payout without realizing this rule and got denied. Were you able to keep trading until the account was below the 30% rule and then get a payout or did something else end up happening. Please lmk would be very helpful. Thanks

[@Jacobgribbin]

@@airtac.6979 you need to trade 10 new days, and follow the rules. It’ll be okay

[@myst1398]

I have an important question. I am funded with 1.5 million (5 300k accounts), meaning max payout for first 3 months is $17.5k. However, I am only going to withdraw $17.5k when I am $17.5k above 307,600 (307,600 is when the drawdown limit stops trailing), meaning 311,100 in total per account to withdraw, because when I withdraw I don’t want to go into drawdown. This would mean I want to make $55,500 before withdrawing $17,500 so my drawdown limit still stays above $7500 per account. Regarding the 30% rule, does this mean I can only make 30% of $17.5k in one day, or 30% of $55,500 in one day? An answer would be much appreciated.

[@odioncinar3753]

yh

[@Alpacabowl98]

contact them and show them you are consistent if you can I heard they will approve your profits. "Ive heard from a few people if you get denied due to 30% rule all you have to do is contact support and prove that you traded the same strategy and size a few other days in the payout period and they will still approve the payout."

[@charging99]

Maybe we can figure this out together, he said he was trading the 150k. Which has 5k trailing drawdown in his example his largest trade $4,900 just under max trailing drawdown. Not sure of the rest

[@vqfive]

You say there's no news rule and that's what it says on Apex website.But there was a guy here that just said that he got flagged for trading during news. He said he had to prove that he did nothing different.He traded the same before and after, and then they approved his payout. But why was he flagged in the first place for trading during news?

[@bryonseilerXauBry0716]

That's so doable. I don't see the issue.

[@Oren0614]

if you actually made more money and break rule on this 30% rule, does this mean you just cant do payout on that time period? you gains dont go anywhere right?

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@ZackandJinny]

Let's not get this twisted. If you have had a payout with Apex, they are copy trading your accounts. That is how they have all this money to payout. In other words they have the actual money you have made from you trading within these demo accounts. So the 30% rule is more about them making sure if they are copy trading you that your sizing is not changing within a trade, that day or within request periods. If you start sizing up your adding more risk to the trade. They don't want that. That strategy is risky to them if they are copy trading your accounts.

[@DaleFamily3291]

My strategy is to go 1 or 2 mini’s and if the trade continues to go my way I will add 3 mini’s. Is that not allowed?

[@lifemarketing9876]

then don't size up?

[@justincortez6868]

well of course thats why its a 90/10 split??? All firms do this. Some do 80/20. Apex has it first 25k you make, all of it is yours then after that its 90/10 split. Whats your point? 90/10 split is pretty damn good if you ask me. I aint complaining.

[@TimelessWorldSports]

I ordered 100 Contracts, made $10,100 profit on a 50k Account 1st day. I got liquidated on my account SMH

[@PeppiComedy]

Hey guys can i ask if i can request a payout if i have 51.800€ on 50k apexfunding ? can i request for 1800€

[@gabateodorescu9376]

No, you need to make 2.6 k in profit in a minimum of 10 days and even then, you cannot go below 50.100$ on a 50k acc. And you can withdraw i think in 2 monthly intervals of days like 1-5 and 15-20

[@tmoneygoldd5662]

So if u stay consistent on a 50k account and lets say by ur 3month ur account is at 90k how much can u take out on the 4month..? And i mean making 1k to 1.5k every day.

[@QueenJerhonda]

That’s when they hit you with the “your style doesn’t align with our program” rule and they ban you.

[@zefproxy9753]

You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@zefproxy9753]

@@QueenJerhonda You should check out Precision Funding, their 90% off with better rules than apex and allow up to 25 Funded PA’s!

[@jeffstrong4580]

Consistent profit for trades? If you want consistent pay then get a job. It's rule is for these prop firm and they use these pumper for marketing. FINRA should investigate this.

[@Buying-dips]

So if you average 1k per day and on a big news day you make 5k, it doesn't count!?

[@BRAS64076]

No single trading day can account for more than 30% of account balance. So $3,000 day with a $10,000 account balance is 30%...... $3 day with a $10 account balance is still 30%....... you can make as much as you want, but if you have a single day that is more than 30% of account balance you will have to explain why and prove you did same size and strategy as you normally do and should still get payout if you cant you have to keep trading until account balance is up enough that the big day isnt 30% of balance anymore...... 50k account needs to make 2600 to get a payout... 2600 / 10 days = $260 a day..... or max trade size if only going to make 2600 minimum is 2600x0.30 = $780 max daily gain then the rest of the 9 days you need to make $1820 ($2600 - $780=$1820) so that means $1820 / 9days = $202 a day average..... but if you just trade consistantly (the same way every trade) you really shouldnt have an issue with the 30% rule because even if you break the 30% rule you can just prove that you traded like every other day and your payout will still get approved.

[@YouAREyoubeYou]

As long as you would have used the same number of contracts

[@neverevenheardofit]

You won't qualify. They will tell you to keep trading until the next payout window.

[@SB-by2iv]

it counts but you just raised your minimum required balance for a payout request to $16,666,67 for 3 months of payouts.( 5000 / .30)

[@mfgmfg1248]

pex is simply confusing their traders with 30 percent rule

[@BURETECH]

"If someone could help me, I have a funded account of $250k. On the first day, I made $1392, and on the second day, I made $671. I have 8 days left until my first payout and to complete the 10 days. How much should I aim to make per day to maintain consistency with the 30% rule? Additionally, I want to leave a safety net of $6600 and withdraw $3000. How much should I aim to make per day in the remaining 8 days to achieve these goals?"

[@SB-by2iv]

$6600 + 3000= 9600 x .3= $2880..... Therefore try not to make any more than $2880 in any one day unless you can keep doing it. If you do earn $2880 in any one day you are stuck with a minimum required balance of $9600 for the first 3 months of payout requests. So far your largest day is $1392 gain and since your account requires a minimum of $6600 before you can request a payout you are under the maximum day gain that would raise your account minimum. $6600 x .3 = $1980 max one day gain. If your highest gain day becomes $2000 then your balance would need to be $2000 / .30= $6,666.67 before you can request a payout. Hopefully i've shown you enough examples that you can understand the math.

[@salimtrades]

​@SB-by2iv so for 50k account, it's 2600+2000 = 4600 × .30 = $1,380 is the max in one day right? Now I'm on day 3.. the high day is $729. So I'm in a good spot? The other days were $400 and $500.

[@Rollbackwalmart]

Ive been denied several time with shitty explanations

[@QueenJerhonda]

Why?

[@cumulusterraticus3446]

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[@mihkelkm3068]

just another ponzi

[@Kojtxiv666]

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[@patrickhenry7416]

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[@bankroll3644]

Should only be 1 rule i pay for 5 k drawdown dont hit drawdown ... end of story

[@rashadheyward]

Idk why people don’t get it. The FAQ n video on their website explains this very well. Thanks Patrick! 🫶🏽

[@arnoldsujankatru1734]

Lol yeah.

[@thabangsebopetsa6813]

😥😥 still dnt get it.. care to explain further? Let's say i have a 50k acc n passed my evaluation, how much must u make daily for 10days to stay under the 30% consistency rule?

[@BRAS64076]

@@thabangsebopetsa6813 No single trading day can account for more than 30% of account balance. So $3,000 day with a $10,000 account balance is 30%...... $3 day with a $10 account balance is still 30%....... you can make as much as you want, but if you have a single day that is more than 30% of account balance you will have to explain why and prove you did same size and strategy as you normally do and should still get payout if you cant you have to keep trading until account balance is up enough that the big day isnt 30% of balance anymore...... 50k account needs to make 2600 to get a payout... 2600 / 10 days = $260 a day..... or max trade size if only going to make 2600 minimum is 2600x0.30 = $780 max daily gain then the rest of the 9 days you need to make $1820 ($2600 - $780=$1820) so that means $1820 / 9days = $202 a day average..... but if you just trade consistantly (the same way every trade) you really shouldnt have an issue with the 30% rule because even if you break the 30% rule you can just prove that you traded like every other day and your payout will still get approved.

[@YouAREyoubeYou]

Whatever you typically make will suffice. If you typically use 3 contracts and make 500-600 per day stay there. Don’t then switch to 10 contracts and make 10k then argue about it. The rules are there-stay within the confines of the rules-period. Then there’s no argument.

[@YouAREyoubeYou]

What size account do you have? If it’s a 50k, you may want to stir clear of using 6 contracts. Essentially that would be over leveraging. On that 50k your buffer is $3k you can blow that account quickly. 50k should be less than or equal to 5 contracts-2-3 are ideal. Not telling you what to do it’s simply a suggestion. I make anywhere from 500-1300 in a trade on A+ supply and demand setup