Mormon Tells Durbin to Repent

Watch as Jeff Durbin spoke with a Mormon outside of the Mesa temple. This clip is from the live-stream that was done on our Facebook page. To catch more of the live-streams, go and "like" our Facebook page ( / apologiaradio . In this video, the conversation touches on several subjects: the deity of Jesus Christ, how many gods there are, can man become a god, the Trinity, and more. We believe that these conversations are important and that they work very well as shareable online "tracts". They present excellent opportunities to learn and to share the Gospel. Share it with someone you love!
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[@ApologiaStudios]

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[@keithp8357]

In heaven am I going to see God sitting on the throne or am I going to see God and Jesus sitting on the throne?

[@richardholmes5676]

Two or more independent witnesses are needed to testify of truth. This means God and Jesus are separate.

[@jesusmatters4222]

@@keithp8357 NO MAN has seen the Father at any time...and Jesus said "if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" so you will see Jesus, but seeing Jesus is seeing Jesus and the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells IN US and will represent us at the judgement seat. You will see Jesus, be it a good discussion or a bad one we will all stand before Him

[@justincuvelier9569]

If we love and obey Jesus, our life will be a light to others and draw them in to the father's presence, sharing the simplicity of the gospel. We do not need to share the way religion teaches. More people leave Christianity today because they have no foundation.

[@jesusmatters4222]

@@justincuvelier9569 We as Christians don't share "as religion teaches" by delivering the gospel....religion is of man, so no wonder its less effective but this notion that behaving a certain way manipulates more to come to your specific church, well isn't that the same as the fraud the Mormon church delivers the message?

[@jamespeterson9449]

I was a a Mormon for over 20 years. In 2019 I got saved after months and months of looking into biblical Christianity. These videos by Apologia helped immensely with some of the big questions I had when comparing Mormonism to Christianity. I used to listen to all the Mormon evangelism videos at work, constantly. My life has so much peace now that I have the true Jesus Christ, but it’s also gotten harder. I was married to a Mormon woman, and after I was saved, it resulted in divorce. There’s a lot of tension with me and family, all because I chose Christ over Joseph. I’ve lost many friends and family and opportunities because of this, and I don’t regret it at all. Jesus is a far greater treasure than anything else this world has to offer. Jeff, I want to thank you for these videos, and how God has used them and used you for his glory to share the gospel. I pray that your guys’ evangelism increases and that more people will listen who are Mormon and that God works in their hearts. God bless!!

[@jlewis8145]

God bless you! Jesus said that he would divide people and families. The truth naturally divides. To be worthy of Jesus and eternal life one must side with God's truth even if it divides his own family. John 10:27-29

[@jlewis8145]

@@danielmeakin All you need to do is repent of your idolatry and any other sins. The moment you do that God will forgive you of all your sins and give you his righteousness, which is the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:21 I John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Joseph Smith and every LDS prophet since him have preached a gospel of “do,” negating the gospel of “done” that Jesus preached and was. The LDS church is all about what it and its members must still do and be if they want to live with God (and be a god) one day. The true church is all about proclaiming what Christ has DONE to make us right with God now for all eternity. It’s a certainty. Jesus Christ canceled the record of debt that was held against us. All you need to do is accept Christ by faith. It isn't because of who you are and what you must and can do for God. It is because of who God is and what He did for you in sending Jesus to be the sacrificial offering for your sins. To be your substitute on the cross and to satisfy the demands of God's law that stands against you. Christ has done the one work that was necessary to reconcile you to God. Christ has done the one act of righteousness that could bring justification and life to all men. All Christ is asking with open arms is for you to lay down your religiosity and works at the foot of the cross and allow Christ to take it. Salvation is quite simple. Luke 18 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.” God bless you.

[@gethsemane-777]

What's sad is that you left a false religion to join another one. Jeff is a false teacher. We're not saved by repenting of all sins and doing any other sacrifices, we're saved by faith alone in what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross. Being God and the perfectly sinless lamb, he paid for all our sins by pouring his precious blood on the cross and resurected three days later for our justification. You believe it, you're saved, you don't believe it or mock it, you perish.

[@danielmeakin]

​@@gethsemane-777 I'm not sure I follow. Repentance is directing all our faith to Christ instead of to other objects, yes? I'm not trying to follow Jeff although I've found his videos helpful as an ex-mormon; I read Isaiah 44 yesterday as he recommended to a Mormon on one of these and God spoke to me through those verses like I haven't heard him speak to me for many years. Honestly the last time I felt that way was when I read the Book of Mormon as a boy. My understanding now though is those feelings were from a false God because Mormon doctrine contradicts God's Word in the Bible and therefor what I felt was not from God but was of the flesh. The feelings I had yesterday are of God because they were in response to and align with his written Word whereas the feelings I had as a boy were in response to false teachings from a false prophet and contradict His Word and must be a pseudo-spiritual experience derived from the flesh. We can be sanctified though through our faith in Christ and a separation from sin can occur if it is the will of God, yes?

[@danielmeakin]

@@jlewis8145 Thank you for your response. I am in a better place today I believe God is leading me from darkness. I love the parable you shared from Luke I will meditate on it more and pray for mercy.

[@jasonthomas9364]

As a Christian I just learned so much about my own religion watching this. Good stuff

[@thewoodwardreport2806]

Mormonism is dangerous

[@owenwilliams4711]

Christianity is not a religion, it’s a heart change, but ultimately a relationship with God. Just thought I’d clear that up

[@jaihummel5057]

@@owenwilliams4711 From Google "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." I'm pretty sure Christianity qualifies.

[@deskinthepenis]

@@jaihummel5057 yeah no it doesn’t say that at all. What google does say is “the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices”.

[@IAMBENNYBLANCO.]

Christiany.... is not a religion my friend, although it is technically considered as one.

[@B1rdTheW0rd]

He’s running in circles but you can tell it’s because he’s afraid of everything he’s been taught in his life being wrong. Praying the Holy Spirit will convict him and he’ll be saved.

[@henkaistudio]

Yes that’s what we should do but it’s sad that he been believing in that Satanic Polygamous God name Elohim and that False Jesus known as The Mormon Jesus who is a False Christ.

[@Autumn.Sun.Eclipse]

Or maybe he's not wrong but has the same level of conviction in his faith as the pastor but isn't as skilled in debate or as well versed in scripture. Humble yourself.

[@DrDoerk]

@@Autumn.Sun.Eclipse he's definitely just wrong

[@brick2392]

@@Autumn.Sun.Eclipse Certainly he has the same level of conviction and his faith and that’s understandable but so does every single person on this planet And speaking of Faith based religions This really isn’t a matter of faith this is a matter of context The Mormon teaching does not line up with the biblical world Christian view I think that was kind of the main point of this conversation There’s nothing wrong with people having their own faith But In this conversation we’re talking about theology Scripture history And the identity and persons of God

[@KingStr0ng]

@@Autumn.Sun.Eclipse So it's "not humble" to say that a man who is wrong is wrong? Are you serious? You are being lukewarm and that is not good. You need to read Revelation 3:15

[@brycedeeney343]

What I see is a man who grew up in the Mormon church in Utah for the first time has a competent, well studied biblical teacher be able to articulate what the Bible says. He instantly falls back and hides behind “same Jesus. I reject what you say.” Mainly because it upends his entire identity, his families culture, and is terrifying to him. Well done Jeff.

[@5SolasBrad]

My thoughts exactly. Well said.

[@StevenMartin8000]

To all you people insulting this Mormon: follow Jeff’s example and show respect to the lost.

[@corpsebrideemilie69]

Steven Martin hi Steven

[@getdownto311]

how are mormons lost?? i can never get an answer from non mormon they always tiptoe around it or change the subject in all honesty what an ignorant thing for you to say they are lost

[@elko1860]

stan price in Christian lingo, “lost” refers to those who are not in Christ, according to Christian orthodoxy, Mormons and not in Christ, therefore they are lost. Or “unsaved” it is not an insult but rather a title

[@tstjohn777]

@@getdownto311 When you're on the wrong road going in the wrong direction. You're lost. So not believing the map of truth in order to get you to the place you desire to go, you're lost. Like this young man, If you believe in a Jesus all the way to the point of the resurrection and then change everything about who He is. You're lost because you believe in another Christ. That's not skirting around the question.plain and simple.

[@abidingonthestraightandnar5330]

@@getdownto311 It's a false religion, it does not follow the bible, Mormon''s have their own bible and doctrine, and that is called operating in the doctrine of men.

[@rickie5150]

I am an ExMormon and so proud to be a Follower of Jesus, a work in progress, and someone who loves the Word of God !!! Thank you Jeff Durbin for further inspiring me to memorize more scripture. Keep fighting the Good Fight !!!

[@kevin_hart]

I'm sorry to tell u man.. you just got out from a hole nd fell in an other one

[@kylersmyangel]

Happy for you

[@kcelenemkrishnan7778]

Should leave it all together.

[@swarlesbarkely2449]

I am a current "Mormon" and proud to be a follower of Jesus as well.

[@kjvjay]

@@swarlesbarkely2449 When Mormons refer to Jesus Christ, they are referring to a Mormon jesus who is the brother of Satan and they are two of many sons and daughters of a Mormon polygamist exalted man god, a Mormon so-called heavenly father, who himself is one of a myriad of Mormon polygamist exalted men god father, grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc., according to Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, Brigham Young, 2nd Mormon false prophet. Jesus of the Bible and Christians is not the jesus of the Mormon Church, nor a son of a Mormon exalted man, nor the brother of Satan. As it is written, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)”

[@PabloMartinez-cw5rb]

Jeff’s patience and respect is admirable. God bless him.

[@richarddick2955]

I guess you haven't heard about this Paul guy who has some amazing incites to the book of Abraham supporting Joseph Smith. He is frightening the critics who have actually blocked him from commenting on several sites. He has some brilliant evidence to explain why Joseph was adding characters that didn't match Egyptian. like we see in the facsimile 2 their were likewise Lacunas (holes) in the missing Abraham scroll. The dead sea scrolls had the same problems wherein they had to invent Greek words and character's to fill in certain empty holes in the scrolls. Joseph and the scribes were likely using the book of breathings characters to fill in several such lacunas in an attempt to match the English translation with the Egyptian character's. What he proposes explains everything the critics question and supports the reality that Smith was actually translating from Egyptian. Don't miss this new evidence. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4umnGmgjZZ2f7s

[@thewoodwardreport2806]

Patience is a virtue 👍Jeff is smart.

[@dealexander8457]

Scripture is of no private interpretation. It says what it says . If you reject what it says then that’s on you. This Mormon straight up rejects the word of God in favor of his traditions.He keeps saying that he can’t comprehend the scripture because he is telling the truth. He is not saved and without the Holy Spirit it is impossible to comprehend spiritual things.

[@spacecoastz4026]

That Mormon was looking for a stiff uppercut from Jeff. And his heart and head was not open to the truth.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@swarlesbarkely2449 Hard to listen to someone that doesn't provide an alternative argument. Scripture is scripture and doesn't change. All the Mormon did is studder and stammer.

[@HungarianVizsla21724]

During this whole video I kept thinking, “brother just submit yourself to The Word of God. Be humble, be teachable.”

[@PaladinThizz]

Kind of difficult when your entire life is built around an apostasy. If he does convert his wife will leave him and his family will abandon him

[@gdhhayes2129]

@@HungarianVizsla21724 it is terrifying to walk away from life long Mormon teachings because it is so deeply ingrained that to do so is akin to spiritual suicide. So deeply implanted is the teaching that Mormon theology IS the truth, and that all other religions are the deception, so it takes time for the Holy Spirit to work on the heart and mind of the "true believing Mormon". I know as I have walked that walk. It took a few years of thinking, questioning and praying. But the seeds that others sprinkled took hold and grew causing me to question and then search both Mormon Scripture and the Bible. Yehushua (Christ Jesus) knows who belongs to Him, and He thus seeks us out.

[@highmedic2351]

A cultist telling another cultist how to live, brilliant!

[@marenlatham4349]

I am so impressed with this man. I was born and raised in the Mormon church, but I was finally able to get out and come to true Christianity. If someone had spoken to me like this man when I was all in, I would have done my best to defend Mormonism, but I would have been deeply shaken. I would have taken his points and his questions to Mormon leaders and asked them what this was all about. I would have done a lot of reading, I would have tried to hold my world view together, but in time it would have crumbled. So yes, please do talk and testify to Mormons! We need help to get out! And it may seem like a thankless job, and it may seem like you are getting no where, but I promise, it makes a huge impression. God bless this ministry!

[@getdownto311]

you a christian??? you sure dont act like in fact you are quite far from it the way bash the mormons you Hypocrite!!

[@belladonnelly8063]

Jesus was radical.

[@Maji777111]

Pray let my spirit aid ye.

[@hisservants8003]

stan price No one here has bashed Mormonism. I pray you will listen to this and think on it.

[@tstjohn777]

@@getdownto311 When challenged with the truth you and people like you call bashing what is challenging what one believes is true. Maybe I'm wrong on your point. Both guys are presenting their understanding of truth. One uses his own truth the other is just quoting passages of scripture. That is one of the most loving things a Christian can do.

[@davidlow1315]

Born and raised a Christian but very good to hear this debate to affirm why I believe in the Trinity

[@Sunbear415]

No one is “born a Christian”.

[@gdhhayes2129]

As a former, devout, true believing, temple attending, mormon of 48 years, what you are doing, ie planting seeds and asking thought provoking questions, is good! It is the seeds planted, and the questions that got me searching the bible to back up my beliefs that helped lead me to see it wasn't there, and ultimately to recognize that religion was not the truth.

[@yunginspirit3162]

@April G just ask them for a copy of the Book of Mormon and they will give you one for free. Then sit down and read it with an inquiring and open mind, after which you should pray with sincerity of heart and ask Heavenly Father if it is a true book. God bless.

[@yunginspirit3162]

@April G Reading the Holy Bible will not verify if the Book of Mormon is true or not, altho there are parts in the BoM that support the Bible and visa versa. It's best to read the BoM then pray about it...ask God if it's True scripture.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@yunginspirit3162 - That's assuming on your part that the Book of Mormon is a greater authority than the Bible. The Bible does not state/teach of other gods like the LDS do, including the possibility of becoming a "god". In other words, Mormons find the Bible false, if you are being intellectually honest. With all due respect, reading the Bible will verify the Book of Mormon as false. As the conversation in this video portrays, Isaiah 43 and John 1 fundamentally torpedo the crucial question of who Jesus was/is according to LDS teachings. Additionally, there is no teaching in the Bible linking Lucifer to Christ as "brothers".

[@jcoolio427]

@@machtnichtsseimann While many LDS people believe that because of the many translations that the bible had to go through to get to our language it has lost some of the true meaning that were intended when it was written, we still believe in the Bible and that it is a true text from God. An easy way to point out that the bible can be wrong is when the Pharaoh of Egypt is said to have God hardening his heart when this could never be possible. God can't take away the agency of any human, Pharaoh hardens his own heart against the words of Moses. On the other hand though, the bible does verify the BoM, one way that we use is 2 Corinthians 13:1, paul states that "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" proving that when God is teaching something important he sends another source to confirm it. If i think of any other verses in the bible I will reply these were just some thoughts that I had immediately after reading your comment.

[@jcoolio427]

@@machtnichtsseimann I thought of Ezekiel 37 where it talks about the joining of one stick and another stick, stick meaning written tablet or some form of writing. the joining of the tribe of Judah and joseph or ephraim. Another one is in John 10 Jesus talks about being a good shepherd that he will visit his other sheep that are not in this fold and I would put a lot of money on the fact that there would be documenting of Jesus Christ visiting his other sheep.

[@trakat77]

I feel like the person standing there (with the cap) watching in silence and in awe of this conversation. This is enlightening about the Mormon faith and even my own as a Christian.

[@SharonHurst56]

Today is the first time I listened to Jeff and I am amazed how he communicated to this Mormon, in love and with total knowledge of who God is. I am an ex Mormon and I am so glad this man cares for the lost.

[@alfredomoreno301]

Do you care that he can not describe the image of God, except to repeat that god is a spirit and lead you to your own imagination of what he is, specially if you like it? Imagine Adam describing to his children God, the same way you are not able to describe him, and then telling them, buti walked with him and he spoke with me and your mom and i could hear him and see him that is why we even hid ourselves from him, but he found us and made us clothes also and tolds us many things. but now he is a spirit and you can not see him. If you are an ex-mormon just remember, the great loss of an ex-mormon is not the blessings but the light of the Holy Ghost teaching you how to come back to Heavenly Father. That is why you are so impressed with simple rationalizations of the bible.

[@bebyfabry6831]

God is not only a spirit ,first God is a person ho have a Holly Spirit .The Holly Spirit is not a person ,is the power of God to be prezent în all dimension !

[@alfredomoreno301]

@@bebyfabry6831 How much of the bible have you read in order for you to declare such stupidity.3 pages, 24 scriptures? read it all and study it on your own. And stop comparing God to your favorite fantasy books.

[@bebyfabry6831]

@@alfredomoreno301 What fantasy books are you talking about? Don't be stupid ,Bible have 1223 pages end i read all the Bible.Who are you to says what is right or rong about my perspective of God ,end what religious tribe are are you reprezent ?

[@bassdaddy6548]

Nobody knows fully who God is. Our minds cannot comprehend fully what he is

[@tristonaguirre2079]

The way God used this man to speak truth is amazing. I pray God gives me the same boldness and calmness to speak his word to others as well.

[@christinacataldi877]

Triston Aguirre it gets better with time age and experience. When I first got saved I came out like a gang buster! Lots of Truth and short on love and gentleness. I even had to take a good break (with approval from the Lord) now it’s more balanced yet I still tend to get over aroused but that has more to do with my own difficulty with sensory regulation. I’m like this even if I’m talking about other subjects non-related to the Word. I think too many years drinking caffeine really messed up my nerves. I feel I have limitations now as far as how much I’m angle to interact before I get very depleted and drained.

[@Babyboy_Matt]

Keep seeking God He will give you what u need according His calling for u

[@trafficjon400]

Way to go bro Triston. John

[@jamesboreson]

Amen

[@paulogbanje8472]

Me too

[@ArmoricaPadilla]

I was born into an LDS family, baptized into that faith. I've been inactive for almost 8 years now. But part of me has struggled with missing going to their church. I've been going to Christian churches. I've watched a few other pastors talk about these specific things, but never heard the things you said in this video. I've been praying for God to reveal His truth to me. I only want His truth, while following scripture. Then I watched this, while washing dishes. I'm a mom of 6 kids btw. I found myself overwhelmed, in tears. I feel like I've been starved of the truth my entire life. While being fed a delicious poison, that lulled me to sleep, leaving my mind and heart to find comfort in their lies. God's truth isn't easy or comfortable to know... what the Mormon religion leans on is giving comforting answers to things that don't feel good. Like being sealed in temples to your family for time and eternity. Like knowing you'll see them again in Heaven. I'm grieving heavily while I let go of those beliefs. But cannot argue with the things you said and the scriptures you shared. I will indeed be wrestling with God, on my face, as I accept Him, and His perfect word. Thank you for doing this work, Thank you God for answering me.

[@SmalltimR]

_Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: _*_"I am Yahweh, who makes all things_*_ who _*_alone_*_ stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth _*_by myself_* - Isaiah 44.24 Behold the written truth! With that said, the truth is revealed to those whose hearts are open to receive it. _In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight"_ - Luke 10.21 _Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures_ - Luke 24.45 _The things which you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit the same to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also... 15Give diligence to present yourself approved by God, a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed, properly handling the Word of Truth_ - 2 Tim 2.12, 15 Whereas Jesus warned of the corruption of the true doctrine following His departure; _For I know that after my departure, vicious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Men will arise from among your own selves, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them_ - Acts 20.29-30 _But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, 2through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron_ - 1 Tim 4.1-2 For which we are warned and guided to guard ourselves; _Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world_ - 1 John 4.1 And that is where false doctrines fit-in; _For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts_ - 2 Tim 4.3 As it is obvious that many religious institutions have fallen-away from the true doctrine of godliness, it is therefore our duty to heed Jesus' warnings and council; _But false prophets also arose among the people, as false teachers will also be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. 2Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. 3In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber_ - 2 Peter 1.1-3 _not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God_ - 2 Thes 2.2-4 And who is it that loves lies instead of the truth? _Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie; 12that they all might be judged who didn't believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness_ - 2 Thes 2.11 _But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his_ - Ro 8.9 _You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 8'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men'"_ - Matthew 15.7-9 Having said all that, how do we identify true followers of Christ from the false ones? The answer is simple, in-that we look to those who are actually following in Jesus' footsteps, as-in, worshiping and preaching as Jesus did. And we all know Jesus did not worship nor preach a triune god at any point in His ministry - behold the true doctrine of Christ! Stay strong and keep petitioning GOD for enlightenment brother!

[@mikel646]

If your family members love Jesus and turn to Him in repentance for their sins, you will see them again in Heaven. If they are sincere in wanting to believe in the one true God, they just need to be shown the contradictions between what the LDS church teaches and what the Bible actually says. I left the Greek Orthodox church when I began to see things in the church's teachings that didn't line up with scripture. So I completely understand what you're going through. It can be gut wrenching. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that God will carry you through and provide what you need. He is faithful. It took almost 30 years for my mom to come to Jesus. I never thought I'd see it. You'll be OK.

[@robneely3234]

Amen..merry Christmas n happy new year...

[@alanspedding1062]

Hi, Padilla. I feel your struggle and your pain. Please read my post above (the long one). I believe it will help you. God bless. Alan

[@jinnymclamb4682]

This is one of the best testimonies I’ve read. “Being fed a delicious poison” shows a wise assessment of your situation and provides such sincere evidence of a contrite heart. What a gift it is to be comforted by the true God of creation.

[@paulking8812]

Jeff's recall of scripture is convicting. As Christians, we should aspire to this level of scriptural conversation. We have such privilege to have unbridled access God's Word.

I love this Christian preacher. Lord protect him.

[@benbegic3349]

Amen!

[@TheSharaya]

Amen

[@iconacy]

you should watch a video exposing this preacher as a heathen.

[@adventureaustralia1925]

@@iconacy lol please. This man has not misquoted or misused scripture, youve clearly never listened to him preach the gospel nor do you know the gospel to turn around and say this man is a heathen please give me an example of where and how he has preached or given false deceptive gospels to anyone.

[@justinneilsonn2665]

He will be fine lol

[@Jayb2428]

I greave for this man, because you can tell in his heart he wanted the truth that he was hearing to be wrong but somewhere deep inside he know it was right. May God open his eyes and deliver him from those beliefs💙

[@smalltimer4370]

If GOD did open his eyes, it will not be to the trinity - which is quite silly if you think about it, as this guy spent the bulk of his time preaching a doctrine and message that is completely unlike the doctrine and teachings of Christ - oh the irony

[@austinjeschke4553]

@@smalltimer4370Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith will receive what he deserves for trying to deceive and lead others away from the true Christ

[@Jayb2428]

@@smalltimer4370 The Bible from start to finish points to the trinity. You might refuse to believe that fact but that is truth. I challenge you to ask him for his truth and I can guarantee that you’ll fine it in the trinity. May God guide you and protect you always. God bless you.

[@smalltimer4370]

@@Jayb2428 The Bible does not point the trinity - what a silly thing to say - the Bible is complete and explicit, in-that there is only one source alone and by Himself of whom and to whom are all things - that is the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ alone. Of this we are assured, as Jesus Christ Himself testified it. And so while the people of this world keep looking for ways to embellish the plain truth of scripture with lies, they do so at the expense of Jesus' teachings and commandments, and all because a group of degenerate men said so - not Jesus, or any approved prophet, but very, very clearly, a group of degenerate men having no place whatsoever in the written truth of scripture. And so, in response to your challenge I would answer in truth - that I have pleaded GOD for the truth, and that His Holy Spirit revealed it, as it was revealed to Jesus Christ - the truth of GOD without the addition or removal of anything. That is what GOD's servant and follower of Christ is now testifying to - the truth revealed by GOD, against the lies of men. That is why Jesus Christ did not worship, teach or preach a triune god at any point in His ministry. That is also why, there is not one single mention of anyone worshipping such a god in all of Bible history. That is also why there are no declarations or revelations of such a god(triune) in all Bible history. And finally, that is why there is no such god taught or revealed in the doctrine of godliness established by Jesus Christ on earth. True followers of Christ will worship, teach and preach as Jesus did on earth - and we all know without a doubt, that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god in His ministry - no one, in all of Bible history did so in-fact. - you have been deceived friend, repent and beg the one true GOD and Father of Jesus Christ for mercy, so that your eyes may be opened, as others were opened before you. Repent so that you may worship in truth as our Lord Jesus Christ worshipped in truth. Repent so that you may testify to the truth as He testified to the truth - the time to stop carrying-out Satan's lies is now! - amen

[@digital07071]

I am 69 yrs. old, I have been walking in the Spirit serving the Lord since 1970, this is the most beautiful demonstration of Holy Spirit love and patience that I have ever witnessed. I have spent my entire life speaking to others about the love of God. Jeff, my brother, you are showing it to the world. God bless and keep you and continue to use you. Brother Lee

[@BradK02]

Totally agree with you. As a Christian "bible bashers" have their place but I don't relate that. This is how Christians should treat everyone.

[@jamesbradford4770]

@@BradK02 Thanks, my brother.

[@eileensianez6766]

Diversion away from answering LDS questions with quotes from bible.😮

[@AidenScott-wm2ww]

Hehe 69

[@lexipatterson9777]

As a Mormon questioning my faith and being brought into the light by God through His followers, I just want to say it is worth it. You are reaching people and bringing them into the fold. And for that I thank you. I have been desiring to have a relationship with God but was having a hard time in the LDS faith. Now, reading the Bible, I feel like I KNOW God

[@SmalltimR]

Jesus was no trinitarian True followers of Christ, will follow in Jesus' footsteps. That is to say, to worship, teach and preach as Jesus did. And we all know without a doubt that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god. In fact, we can say without a doubt that there is not one single person in all of Bible history who did such a thing.

[@Elizabeth-rk3do]

John 10:27-29 God bless you!

[@masteringfibromyalgia]

true followers of Christ believe that He is God in the flesh Who redeems us through His work of righteousness on the cross on our behalf because we do not have the power to save ourselves from God's wrath. God Himself paid the price. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Himself said He is the great I AM, He is the Alpha and Omega, and that because they saw Him, they saw the Father, because they are ONE.

[@SmalltimR]

@@masteringfibromyalgia Who told you that followers of Christ believe that Jesus is GOD in the flesh? Or that it was GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Spirit who payed the price? And finally, from where has the expression 'the great I AM' come from? That being said, it would appear that your testimony consists of made-up terms and definitions, rather than the written truth of GOD.

[@HaleStorm49]

What fold?

[@jeffrey63031]

I lost my husband a week ago and I want u to know you have really ministered to my heart! Praying for you and love you! God bless Always

[@jlfcpa]

Jeffrey I am so sorry about your loss.

[@jeffrey63031]

Ty so much.Rich loved the Lord and I'm comforted in knowing he is where he wanted to be! God bless you Always, Betty

[@lizcutajar9352]

@@jeffrey63031 I am sorry for your loss Betty. It must be a great comfort knowing he loved the Lord.

[@TheGLD]

jeffrey63031 have you repent?

[@danielminer446]

"The Word of God is the anvil upon which the opinions of men are smashed" - Spurgeon

[@geraldsmith7206]

Satan should be ashamed trying to make himself equal with Jesus.

[@auditoneusa747]

MORMON DUDE: “But but but but wait wait wait wait I I I was gonna say...ok ok ok buuut... in the totality ah ah ah well so so so that’s your interpre-ligation. WHAT BRO???!!! 😂 LOL

[@j.huffhumble4281]

T. Lane so your making fun of a dude their trying to minister to ? Are you a Christian T. Lane ? Love your neighbor as yourself ? Judge not ?

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

*Jesus* is the Word of God. The bible is scripture that *bears witness to* the Word of God. Two different things.

[@bcreel83]

Daniel Miner NICE

[@nikao7751]

it's not that the truth is hard to receive but the lies are hard to let go of

[@danielmoore4024]

Nikao, In this case I couldn't agree with that. I'd say the reason so many members don't listen to Jeff and other apologetics is the fact they don't act alike Christ when talking, Jeff and others alike him are so argumentative that even if members believe him, they also believe he's a hypocrite because he doesn't preach like Christ. Thinking to themselves, "even if The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is false, Jeff's church must be more false because they say they follow Christ, so their doctrine must be to argue and be rude. That can't be the doctrine of Christ, I mustn't follow Jeff". He's got to be more Christ like.

[@nikao7751]

@@danielmoore4024 I know what mean. I believe calvinist misrepresent who God is and the word of God who is Christ. but my comment was in general to everything in life. and yes I believe we are called to be a witness and not obnoxious

[@TheVintageBumbleBee]

Right? Shows exactly what happens when your raised in whatever it is. It moulds the brain and spirit, only Christ can penetrate a man's heart. Thank you Jeff for being a conduit for Christ.

[@jesussaves6625]

@@danielmoore4024 What do you consider to be "Christ like" then? He is loving the other human while pointing out the errors in their ways (like Christ). Jesus was not "tolerant" in the way the world is.

[@danielmoore4024]

@@jesussaves6625 Love thy neighbor as thyself. Disrespecting agency, a gift from God is not love, it's plain and clear they've made their choice, respect their rights to choose for themselves as Christ allowed the Pharisees to choose for themselves. Does Jeff want his human rights to choose for himself? Surely. Since he loves himself enough to allow himself his right to choose he should love others to have their rights to choose. He obviously doesn't allow others their right to disagree meaning he does not love his neighbours as himself.

[@gerikc]

I've never watched a conversation between a Christian and a Mormon before. I'm shocked at how deeply ingrained this deception is. The devil is a liar!! Jeff, God bless you for your work. He's given you great wisdom in the scriptures, and you've inspired to study my Bible with purpose! I will pray for this gentleman!❤

[@SmalltimR]

There is no wisdom in the trinity - it is a false teaching and a lie

[@uzoachebe]

Jeff is so patient and kind 🥹 I hope that this man came to know the truth of Christ

[@schaef1722]

Your ability to recall and quote scripture is amazing, and your respectful approach is impressive also Jeff

[@crimson888]

This is the Navy Seal of all Preachers...May God bless and protect him for spreading the CORRECT word! What incredible knowledge of the bible and ability to rip the counter arguments apart. God bless you Jeff Durbin!

[@SmalltimR]

The trinity is not of the Bible however - ie, Jesus did not worship or teach of a triune god.

[@ramelbrooks2316]

@@SmalltimR you obviously haven’t read scripture where it clearly says “he fell to there knees and started worshiping him” I’m sorry but I feel like a lot of people aren’t chasing truth they’re just focus on winning the argument or being others away from the truth

[@SmalltimR]

@@ramelbrooks2316 How do people go from worshiping Jesus to an imaginary god that is nowhere taught, defined, worshiped or preached anywhere in Bible history? Those who worship a god other than the GOD of Jesus Christ do so as Apostates of Christ. The trinity is a destructive heresy invented 350 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. It is a lie and a product of the devil, intended to deceive would-be Christians into becoming liars by spreading false teachings. Satan has the entire world under his influence. He doesn't care about you or anyone else.

[@jonathancastrejon9214]

I was THAT guy. Just watching this made me feel an overwhelming sense of empathy for this man. I was in his exact shoes and the problem in his position is that he KNOWS he’s wrong but he’s built his entire life on a lie. I did too. Who is willing to truly give up EVERYTHING to follow the God of the Bible Jesus Christ. Very few.

[@tinahunter9350]

Missionaries are young and alot of them are not well spoken.... this sounds weak but it is the truth

[@JesusChristisKing94]

I’ll be honest here. Jeff’s patience is astounding and he truly shows every aspect of what the Holy Spirit is. God bless him always for that. On the other note, he completely destroyed this man’s mormon theology and backed him in a corner in the most polite and most logical way through ACTUAL scriptural context and clear evidence. Poor guy was dancing too much around everything. #holyspiritwins

[@alanspedding1062]

Hi Alex. See my post above. Merry Christmas.

[@michaelmichael2121]

Astounding, incredible, outrageous. If you didn't know Jeff was such a loving guy you could almost be fooled into believing that he did the whole thing just to browbeat this brainwashed idiot into submission and show off his incredible intellect and Ninja-Like mental reflexes to the whole of the KZbin community.

[@oceancoast92657]

he's a fraud.

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

I've noticed our Mormon friends are often stuck on "interpretation". Even when the word is clear as day.

[@danielmoore4024]

Truth_is_the_new_hate, Not all of us are stuck with the excuse interpretation, most members of all religions I see have a script of scriptures in their mind without their own reasoning to believe what they say, they just say what they were told. As an example, those who believe God is a spirit automatically turn to John 4:24 because that's what they were taught, when the missionaries want to talk about faith they automatically turn to Alma 32 because that's what they were taught. I agree with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because of many patterns and symbolism I see in the Bible, not because of a list of scriptures in a textbook. I agree Christ, Satan and we are all literal spirit brothers and sisters through Revelation 12, Abraham sacrificing Issac, symbolism between the law of Moses and Jesus Christ, 3 Nephi and the name "The Lamb of God". I've questioned people on biblical scriptures, they share their answers, I then tell them the answer they gave me and they refuse to believe it. Jeff confessed premortal life is biblical then when I asked did he just say that he denied saying it.

[@jasonbelt8954]

Yep, the word is clear as day. They are 3 seperate beings one in purpose. Thanks for admitting it. But do explain how 1 person can talk to himself without a mental illness. Jeff can't even answer it, but tries to talk his way around it.

[@tangokaleidos1926]

@@jasonbelt8954 all thinking is talking to ourselves, often silently and sometimes out loud. If you think, then you talk to yourself. It is natural. People just try to hide it when other people are around so as not to appear crazy. Everybody thinks and speaks out loud at times throughout the day their own thoughts.

[@FalconOfStorms]

@@danielmoore4024 so much be clear, are you saying that the literal plain text of scripture isn't as important as symbolism? Or is it that the text does not matter at all? And then what symbolism are you seeing that supercedes the scriptures that say there is only one God?

[@FalconOfStorms]

@@jasonbelt8954 it says there is only one God over, and over, and over, and over again.

[@kaybeechioma9682]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE MATURE CONVERSATION THAT THEY HAD, SO MUCH RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER.MAY GOD RAISE SUCH LEADERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST, MEN AND WOMEN WHO KNOWS THE SCRIPTURES AND SPEAKS WITH BOLDNESS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WITH LOVE.

[@cliftontaylor4945]

Kaybee Chioma where was the respect on Jeff’s part.... he is adamantly refusing to hear them.... He already has an answer for them...

[@hisservants8003]

Clifton Taylor He has an answer based on Scripture. Truth is truth.

[@Jesusislord12345]

I have met a couple lds missionaries recently and I’m watching this video taking notes on all the scripture the pastor is bringing up. I’m going to try to save these kids from the cult of Mormonism. All praise to the most high eternal God! In Jesus name, Holy Spirit guide me in truth and help me to say the right things to bring others to the truth. 🙏

[@bangochupchup]

Keep up the good work guys. I rejected Joseph Smith and turned to Jesus Christ. We also need to help those snared in Islam.

[@joerichmond5499]

Don't forget about those snared in JW.

[@leovaughan1902]

Amen

[@getdownto311]

keep up the good work??? all i see here is this soy boy hipster bashing on the mormon faith what a dick!

[@WolfestoneManor]

@@angelawilson6751 Calvinists are the most prideful and arrogant people you'll ever meet.

[@notcarsensmith]

Your phrasing of “I rejected Joseph Smith and turned to Jesus Christ” is rather insulting. As a member of the the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we do not “believe” in Joseph Smith. We do not praise him and seek to him for guidance for forgiveness, and we do no worship him. We worship Jesus Christ, the Son of God who died on the cross and was resurrected so that we could all live again.

[@mioutdoorlife]

A pastor said to me a longtime ago, “people don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.“ I hope you maintained a connection with this gentleman. God was definitely working in his heart and he felt convicted but he doesn’t want to give up his whole world for Christ. God bless you all. Thank you for posting this because I have a friend that is a Mormon that I love very much but I never really understood what he believed.

[@jessitabonita]

I pray for such patience that Jeff has here, because this Mormon sounds exactly like my own dad and it’s painfully heartbreaking and downright frustrating.

[@SmalltimR]

Patience maybe a virtue, though not always bound to good works - ie, the devil is patient, though clearly not inclined to good works With that said, I'd urge that you consider the truth of GOD with vigilance - Jesus did not worship a triune GOD, and our salvation was never rooted in such things in the gospel...

[@SmalltimR]

​@@Charles.Wright First you insult me, then proceed to agree with everything that I have said - Jesus never did this

[@OCDlosp]

I was in this customers house last week and asked him about a puzzle on a table that was temple square in utah. He asked if I knew anything about the temple and I said "it looks like a mormon temple from utah" and he asked if I followed that church, my response was "no Im christian" and his response was "we're christian too" not knowing any of the differences I didnt press the issue. He was probably in his 70s

[@SmalltimR]

@@OCDlosp Many people do not know what being a Christian actually means according to the Bible - though the worst thing a Christian could ever do, is argue with someone else on whether they are Christian or not...

[@danielmoore4024]

Jessaka Powers, If you want to make becoming more alike the Saviour, improve Christ's attributes, increase your awareness. Once you provide enough space to observe your mind it becomes easier to control our thoughts and feelings, we become better at recognising where our thoughts will lead us.

[@kathyhughes6765]

I was an active, endowed single Mormon for 34 years. It took me that long for the many seeds of truth planted in me to take root. I know know Christ as my Savior. Jesus will always be enough.

[@mikewalsh5872]

Jeff is absolutely unflappable. His knowledge is so deep, so clear and so patient, he’s almost unbelievable....

[@cliftontaylor4945]

Mike Walsh lol

[@antbones3618]

Jeff rejected his points because they weren’t scripturally accurate. The Mormon is trying to find ways around listening to the word of God. He’s only taking pieces of the scripture as his truth and rejecting other clearly defined verses. Dancing around the facts.😣

[@JenyBMuga]

All glory to God! 🙌

[@aanon2550]

Not just almost

[@iconacy]

@@antbones3618 facts biased off one mans interpretation. one persons facts is another persons hearsay.

[@joshhess2592]

The amount of patience Pastor Jeff has for this man is absolutely remarkable.

[@incognitovortex5796]

What patience? They are having a calm adult conversation. Just because people don't agree on something, doesn't mean they are "fighting" and one has patience while the other doesn't.

[@Viiola24]

@@incognitovortex5796 if someone plainly “rejects” because they don’t agree with something by their subjective opinion, then you have to have patience because they actually don’t want to listen. He clearly just rejected what Bible says.

[@incognitovortex5796]

@@Viiola24 I think you watched a different video. He rejected someone's interpretation of the Bible, not the Bible. It's not the same thing.

[@coviddgamer]

The amount of patience pastor Jeff has with this man is absolutely remarkable.😊

[@soioioioioioio34]

Well youre an impacient person full of judgement and anger twards youre fellow man

[@Moverka]

The third wheel (Blake)has great patience. Slow to speak, and quick to listen. God bless him, and all three of them.

[@minervagonzales3787]

I grieve for this Mormon & is really crying for help & thats the beginning of CONVICTION THANK YOU FATHER GOD. HALLELUJAH!

[@alfredbrooks2276]

We are Mormons, we are Saints, Jesus Christ doesn't want us to use the the name Mormon, you don't have to weep over us a Latter-day Saints we are learning the ways of the Lord not to raise the world not our ways or the ways of the world because our Lord's ways are not our ways and our ways are not his ways truth will always be truth we are his we are his Saints we are his people under his name we do everything by his name under his name for his name and yes I can testify in his name Jesus Christ...

[@alfredbrooks2276]

Meant to say that we are not Mormon

[@SmittyFan]

9:11 Morman : I reject your interpretation of the text. Christian: I just quoted it.

[@davidfuller4320]

Why do you rejected the Bible? You can not become God's! Of your own planet. Repent or burn in hell

[@Mamaliion]

Loved that part!

[@Concernedcitizen23-r5n]

David Fuller buddy of mine the other day told me I sounded like a Pharisee when I was speaking so cold about the lost. I’m not saying you are. But. In first peter when it says always be ready to give a reason for hope that is within you. It says to sanctify Christ in your heart. Win the soul not the argument. Rome wasn’t built in a day and sometimes god calls for years.

[@SmittyFan]

grizzlytomahawk so you’re that guy👌

[@davidu8688]

@@davidfuller4320 not sure that's really going to win anyone until/unless you show their follies as well give some evidence of what is correct....many of them are brainwashed and lost in deception so they need a guide to find the truth again and or for the 1st time.

[@rachelfox8359]

I left Mormonism about 12 - 14 years ago, after several things happened which I just felt like God would never stand for. One thing that bothered me before I left (and still bothers me), is how the Bible is only considered to be the divine word of God if and unless it validates Joseph Smith's claims. If the Bible doesn't validate Joseph's claims, then suddenly the Bible has been "translated incorrectly." If I were to bake a cake with vinegar instead of sugar, would the bad taste be the result of the recipe being written incorrectly, or is the bad taste the result of my mistake? The bad-tasting cake/ "incorrect recipe" scenario can be applied to Mormon doctrine and Joseph Smith's teachings. If Joseph's words are proven to be untrue (which they have been on more than one occasion), then is that the fault of the Bible, a book written roughly 1,000 years before Joseph was even born, or is that the fault of the person making false claims? Believe in the Bible! †

[@elayneblystone7889]

Amen!

[@rachelfox8359]

@@elayneblystone7889, Thank you! :)

[@navascovideo495]

Well said, can’t argue with that 🙌🙌

[@rachelfox8359]

@@navascovideo495 , Thank you very much! 😊

[@zoiefarnsworth7170]

Amen!

[@LVGirl4]

Jeff is A-MAAAAAAAA-ZING. He is so intelligent, knows his stuff, is strong but gentle with the Mormon, is so kind, mature & respectful. He never looses his cool with the Mormon and never looses his focus. I couldn’t do what he does. I would get too frustrated.

[@danielmoore4024]

LV Girl, Jeff doesn't know what he's doing, the missionaries don't know what they're doing, nearly everyone alive is deluded by the world. Do I have the ability to read brains? Of course not, so how do I know exactly what people are going to say and do before they even do so? Here's how, I just have to learn the programme they live by. Over 90% of the time people live by their subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, but no one has control of their subconscious thoughts including Jeff. If I ask a Catholic why do they believe God is a spirit how do I know they'll show me John 4:24 out of all the options available? I know because that's part of their programme. How did I know Jeff was going to refer to Isaiah 43:10 and erase verse 11 out of all the scriptures saying there's only one God? Because that's part of his programme. The mind is a fascinating thing to learn about, it explains so much about people. Why do people find it so hard to accept certain pieces of information? Nearly everyone has a set of beliefs fixated in their mind, anything that does not suit that set of beliefs the mind refuses to accept and since the people don't control their mind, their mind controls them. Part of Jeff's programme is "God lives", no matter how much someone speaks the truth and says no one knows whether God exists or not, he refuses to accept that truth because it does not suit his programme. The COVID-19 Vaccine, there's some people it hasn't worked on and there was something they had in common, those it didn't work on did not believe it would work, their brain would not accept a successful vaccine because of their beliefs, it's more successful on those who do believe because their mind will accept the information that the vaccine can work. That's how powerful thoughts are. I made Jeff leave his subconscious (programme) to use his conscience instead, he told me his own beliefs are heresy without knowing. I asked him a few questions about scriptures in the Bible and he said premortal life is biblical, I repeated his own words to him and asked "do you agree?" He then said "No, they're heresies." When I told him I said exactly what he said he refused to believe it. His conscious answers oppose his programme so he won't accept what his conscience tells him.

[@Lebronwski]

@@danielmoore4024 can you elaborate on you how made him admit his views are Hersey? Also what are your views?

[@danielmoore4024]

@@Lebronwski I made him admit by making him step out of his comfort zone by my knowledge concerning the mind. During the first 7 years of life humans live by "theta" also known as hypnosis. The first 7 years you were not taught countless rules of how to be a functional member of a family and community, you just observed and were hypnpotized to live that way. 95% of the time humans live by their subconscious thoughts, the mind literally is programmed and that's the problem. Here on KZbin, type something like "programme mind". 95% of the time you are unconsciously living your subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, that's why people hardly ever think. I may of written it above, if I ask a Catholic why they believe God is a spirit without a body they will unconsciously turn to John 4:24 because during that first 7 years they were shown John 4:24 to become a functional member of their religion. I made Jeff have to exercise his conscience by asking him questions people don't ask him, since people don't ask him these they are not in his subconscious thoughts. Me: Who's the woman in Revelation 12? Jeff: Israel Me: Who's Israel? Jeff: The Lord's people Me: Where were they? Jeff: Heaven Me: How could Israel flee from Heaven to earth if we were never in Heaven before mortality? Jeff: It wouldn't be able to. Me: We were in Heaven before earth in premortal life, do you agree? Jeff: No, premortal life is heresy. As soon as I allowed him to stop thinking he returned to the subconscience programmed to believe premortal life is heresy and that's why he called his own answers heresy. About John 1:1, I just questioned him pulling him out of his subconscious and it greatly confused him. Me: Eternity has neither beginning nor end, so when during eternity was the beginning? If we didn't exist before the beginning who was God the God of, he couldn't be a God without anyone to be the God of? "I am the Alpha and Omega" Alpha and Omega of what I asked, he said everything. I pointed out, eternity has no end and he refused to believe it, his mind would not accept his conscious thoughts. Jeff does not question his own beliefs, he unconsciously lives as a functional member of his religion, he does not have the freedom to think for himself.

[@danielmoore4024]

@@Lebronwski What would you like my views of? If you want to know more about the mind without neurological and biological terminology, I recommend you a book called "Awareness" by Anthony De Mello, a great teacher and by the sounds of his book a non-LDS Christian. He was well known for his spiritual lessons, his book teaches you how to gain actual freedom. He writes again and again "WAKE UP!" to his readers. I like what he shares at the end, he shares there's a god in every child, but as soon as people start to mould the child that god in them becomes a devil.

[@colleencampbell172]

@@danielmoore4024 Wow you have 475 comments on this channel. You’re absolutely obsessed with Jeff

[@Manzanita1890]

As an Exmormon now Christian, this is the BEST interaction between the two different religions I’ve ever seen. Wow. Praying over this guy. May God bless him for his patience as Jeff challenged him with truth. May God open his eyes. Remove the blinders. Redirect his passion from his own covenants to God and His glory. MAJOR PROPS.

[@christopherlockwood1857]

Jeff, this was a master class in how to love a Mormon

[@tinahunter9350]

....love a brother you mean?

[@deborahclark7328]

Jeff Dubin is a dang genius!! Keep preaching the gospel, brother!!!

[@oresterijo5847]

Deborah Clark not a genius.its power of God

[@danielmoore4024]

Be an argumentative, and prideful man is who you see Christ as? Why would I trust someone who doesn't follow Christ? Apologetics, arguing, debating is the stupidest way to make people believe you know Christ.

[@cynthiawhigham4812]

Wow! Thank you pastor Jeff for your patience and tenacity in trying to save a lost soul.

[@optimoprimo132]

Ya... But Who is going to show and lead the protestants to the True Church founded by Christ?

[@yosiyyahu.bar.stephen]

@@optimoprimo132If you follow that line of thought, you are giving the glory due only to The Father and giving it to men. Were it not for “the one true church”s corruption, the protestant reformation wouldn’t have happened.

[@optimoprimo132]

@@yosiyyahu.bar.stephen 2 wrongs do not make a right. Corruption is gauranteed when dealing with human beings. The Word didn't become flesh because of the amazing track record of human beings or because everyone was going to magically become super saints in the future. He founded a Church despite human weakness and even one of His cloest followers betrayed him and the one who He called rock upon which He was going to build His Church denied Him. Yet Jesus as God created His plan including all the variables of human weakness. The authority of His Church still stands and this was as He willed it. The Church will always retain this authority based on the power and wisdom of God. Nothing good happens when trying to step outside this authority and it only makes things worse. Just because protestants abandoned the bark of Peter does not give them a free pass of responsibility. Remember that the same anscestors who you condemn for corruption are your anscestors along with the catholic church. We all have the same roots and bear the same responsibility of the past. Creating even more division did nothing to fix whatever was set out to be fixed. The end does not justify the means. History shows that division comes from one place and the result is not unity or reform but rather more disunity, divisions, confusion and corruption if the truth. Just honest look at the state of christianity.

[@bananasrock100]

Jeff represented Christianity very well. Pray Robert will be open to further discussion, either way, seeds were definitely sown. Praise God.

[@bobmills1739]

Definitely

[@danielmoore4024]

@@bobmills1739 Before I became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I already saw Jeff's seeds as bad. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints missionaries were not the first to confront me, every other religious person trying to convert me beforehand I rejected, why? Because the ones who confronted me were arrogant and insulting towards people of other religions like Jeff is. I don't hearken to any voice that shows disrespect towards other people. The missionaries I met before joining were free of guile and polite which is why they had access to my ears.

[@justanotheryoutubewarrior8396]

@@danielmoore4024 so kindness is truth?

[@danielmoore4024]

@@justanotheryoutubewarrior8396 Kindness makes people more willing to talk to you, I don't know anyone who listens to unkind strangers.

[@justanotheryoutubewarrior8396]

@@danielmoore4024 regardless of your opinion and preferences on how people aproaches you, does kindness determine truth?

[@stephenfloyd3522]

I like that mormon, my heart aches for him. He is such a respectful nice man. I pray he learns the truth about Jesus.

[@smalltimer4370]

It's good to pray for people - though it's vital that we pray for the right things in such cases. ie, the trinity is not truth of God, and should therefore never be prayed for. if anything we should pray for the truth of God - no some doctrine invented by a bunch of corrupt men

[@stephenfloyd3522]

@@smalltimer4370 the Triune nature of God is not a creation of man, but a revelation from God in the Bible. You need to read up on scripture and not let your human perception get in the way. There's no way to have a decent discussion on this here but why don't you check out more videos from this pastor or other resources on the web to find out the truth because the denial of God's nature is a serious offense

[@aluf2567]

@@stephenfloyd3522 "revelation of God in the Bible" - so where in the Bible does it say that the Trinity is doctrine? Did you know there were no trinitarian early Christians before the Trinity was created? The contentious Council of Nicaea was made up of men, not apostles or prophets of old. Saint Nicholas even punched the main leader of the majority of Christians that opposed the Trinity. This was done over 300 years after Christ died and was put together by the pagan Constantine for political purposes. Before the Trinity, pagans had a god(s) that were triune.

[@robkeen2818]

@@aluf2567 Just like Jeff was saying, Colossians 1:15-17, were Christ created all things. Paul believed in the trinity and he wrote around AD 62.

[@stephenfloyd3522]

@Islayman Jesus is the Way, Truth, and Life.

[@flatmoonsociety9933]

Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

[@jogriffin9347]

Ben Dover So is taking a big dump !! Yes it’s the truth and life

[@charlesbrown1245]

That is exactly what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches. All are being invited to come unto Christ and receive the fullness his gospel.

[@nvpguitar4591]

Charles Brown actually u guys teach good works get u salvation

[@charlesbrown1245]

@I don’t know A username Actually we don't. You guys misconstrue the doctrines that we teach. Nothing is done without the grace of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Nothing is possible without his grace. Jeff Durbin, and the likes teach that God created us out of nothing (exnihilo) because he was bored and needed to be worshipped and that we are simply inferior creatures somewhat like robots, and pawns with an artificially infused intelligence that some how constitutes free will. We teach that God created the world because he loved us as his literal children before we came to earth and that through worshipping and obeying God we receive blessings including eternal salvation. The orthodox folks such as Jeff Durbin and like you must be, teach that more people seem to be headed to hell than to heaven and yet you don't know what either one is really is. You just teach that hell is as bad as it can get and heaven is as good as it can get. You beleive heaven is a static place with no growth and God's glory is limited. We believe it is a dynamic place with a continued increase that glorifies God forever. We teach that God desires to save all of his children and does this through the grace of Jesus Christ. Only the sons of perdition who will full knowledge rejected Jesus will go to a literal "hell". You apparently think the saving power of Jesus is not sufficient to save the majority of the Father's children.

[@messengerofhope31]

@@charlesbrown1245 Not so. LDS places Joe Smith ahead of Jesus. The name is there only to prostitute.

[@jamesgee9738]

Thank you Jeff for being so patient and a true servant.

[@onthegrindapparel3088]

My man is So BLESSED. It’s unbelievable on how fast his mind processes answers and keeps God as the true vine. It’s unbelievable on how calm and patient he is. Yet he listens, and fired back with the truth. The word is sharp and it’s cutting through. God bless you

[@dashiagraceelias5944]

The Grace of God

[@tammyrogne1471]

He's calm and patient because he's filled with the spirit of Christ!🙏

[@jlar1984]

Tammy Rogne is that different than the spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit?

[@tammyrogne1471]

@@jlar1984 No.

[@VisitorOf22]

Any idiot can debate a STREET DRUNK.

[@truthbeknown8411]

I'm an ex JW so I listen to this spiritual debate objectively as I had to study from scratch after being decieved and I can only agree with Jeff

[@jodylee7596]

Truth Be Known praise the lord your eyes and heart opened

[@anitahscorner]

@@jodylee7596 hey, i need help reaching a Jehovah's witness. They seem to be set in their ways...Any tips? Thank you

[@cleansl88ds]

@@anitahscorner Jesus is Jehovah is Salvation... that is what Jesus name means... hence He is the God whose name is Jehovah is Salvation. Jehovah does not share His name with other gods. Remember YHWH means I Shall Prove to Be Whom I Shall Prove to Be (I Am who I Am). Jesus Proves to Be Salvation. I hope that helps.

[@quemaspana]

You are still deceived. Just traded one cult for another.

[@truthbeknown8411]

@@quemaspana what cult is that?

[@JB-fb8mu]

Just watched this video, and after watching this, I felt like I have been complacent about my "small" understanding of the scriptures. It encourages me to learn more about what I believe in.

[@Johnrider1234]

jb 0818 study the kjb. Study the kjb. Only the kjb will give you the truth

[@aleighz1]

Amen!! Me too!

[@marygayquigley9672]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@T-Wyler]

@john rider are you seriously proposing the government sanctioned KJV is the only true word of God?

[@johnathanjoestar7129]

@@Johnrider1234 its hard to read..

[@joequiroz6065]

I worked my whole awesome career with the LDS followers, I love them so much and want them to come to the saving knowledge of my Jesus. I recently had the wonderful opportunity to lead an LDS follower to Jesus. She said to me that I am such a great teacher, and I said in response to God all the glory. Thank Jeff for your ministry .

[@chrisj1011]

I am going to go read my bible :-) :-)

[@alwayzblessed25]

chrisj1011 🤣 I know right

[@BoriPR82]

chrisj1011 amen

[@JaheimLaw]

A Font Please stop lying to yourself

[@clos3131]

I like the chance for a good opposition, it gives a chance to grow and become stronger. This is a good video.

[@logicallyreasonable2937]

I'm going to to go read my Harry Potter book.:-). It makes more sense...

[@kurtjensen1180]

40 yrs Mormon, cast out for my falling and sinning. Unable to work my sins off so I’ve turned to searching for the true Jesus and for love and forgiveness. God bless you Jeff for spreading truth.

[@lb7625]

we are all guilty sinners deserving of judgement and the lake of fire, God Out Of His Love And Mercy Provided A Saviour Lord Christ Who was anointed against the day of His burial by a woman named mary, died for our sins, Bare them in His body, God Rose Him from the dead the third day, if we now put our faith In Christ, confess Him out loud as Lord (not saying the sinner's prayer), then after confess To God and turn from all sin, get baptised, out of heart forgive others God Can Forgive us our sins And Give us everlasting life as a gift, we must stop sinning, our rebbelion must end otherwise there is destruction coming, now, this very moment is time for salvation

[@supertrucker99]

I'm sending u positive vibe GOD BLESS YOU 🙏

[@inactivemogul403]

You were not kicked out, more like lead out. Each person deserves to know that you can have a relationship with God the almighty. A real relationship where God speaks to us individually yet at the same time! In real time, someone to call on in a time of need and that you can trust and depend on and give thanks to. Keep seeking.

[@wrestleorsurf]

Man this would have exhausted me. Jeff is explaining the foundation of our faith against fluid, non-biblical counter statements that are reinforced in dogmatic, non-searching, closed ears. Jeff is well prepared and displays great patience and persistence. This is the proof of ones ministry, proof by example and not of college credentials.

[@joshipp761]

Adam.......I admire Jeff patience & sound biblical knowledge

[@toddlake7489]

Adam, I’m exhausted watching him. It’s amazing how he has so much patience.

[@joshipp761]

@@toddlake7489 , truly a gift from God.

[@bookofmormonanswers]

I guess you see what you want to see. I could see that he clear was not really listening, his eyes half closed, a licking of his lips, blinking, and an air of feigned patience while he waits until the other less prepared person finishes, but then delivers his very prepared and oft repeated talking points. I don't see this as open minded, but clearly a closed minded, closed ears approach to "discussion" when it is not a discussion at all. The way that he answered against John 17:21 was amazing, almost flippant, where he offered his opinion that in the case of John 17:21 Jesus was talking about unity, but in the case of the "Trinity" which Jesus never once spoke about (because it is a man made doctrine), in that case we must believe it means literally one being. Well, its a man made doctrine, the word "Trinity" does not appear in all of the Bible. think about that.

[@toddlake7489]

bookofmormonanswers I think he was listening very well. The “less prepared” man was missing what Jeff was saying. And that’s why it must of been so exhausting for Jeff, cause the mormon wasn’t hearing what Jeff was saying. Jeff knows what mornons believe because his testimony is that he used to be one, until he read all scripture. Anyways I’m not going to try and argue with you on it. Just that Jeff was willing to take him out for lunch or supper to talk about it and have a proper dialogue. Where the “less prepared man” can come with all his notes, and Jeff can come with the Holy Bible. 😀

[@AlohaAngel1111]

“It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.”😔Please Pray for the Mormons, they are good people, just very very lost.😔🙏♥️ Thank you for the work you do Jeff! All glory to God! God is so good! 🙏♥️ Praise Jesus!

[@christianserna9528]

Wow this youngster with Jeff is a straight soldier. God bless him.

[@victorponce5385]

We love mormons , this is why we speak to you!!! Know that we truly care!!!

[@emilioolmos7502]

If you where to tell Jeff any of your belief even if you're a Christian he would tell you what he understands from all his studying and that's what he stands for, also thats why there is many religions. Faith is the very foundation, interpretations are many and God there is only one.

[@joyceekrejci9100]

I am once a mormon and they are the most beautiful people but they are all decieved by the leaders..

[@tinahunter9350]

And we love you too...would never attack your common doctrine and would never make $$ off of trying to shame you

[@scottiffanimccord1509]

I love the work you are doing! I am a born again believer living in Utah. I came out of mormamism @ 5 years ago, Praise God! By the Grace of God. I have tried having these conversations with my family who are still under the deception of the Mormon Church. Watching this video has given my insight and scripture references I can use when taking to them. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. God Bless your work, and I will pray for guys :)

[@fayelewis5476]

Glory to God!

[@joestim8707]

tiffani smith good luck: I never got anywhere arguing with MORMONS!

[@TheJlleyba]

tiffani smith, I am sad for you. First I will correct your terminology of the Lords Church. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Mormon is not the head of the church nor the foundation of the church, he was a prophet & the one who took a few of the records and compiled them, thus the Book of Mormon, the author however is Jesus Christ Himself, he is the one that revealed that which was to be written. There is no difference in how the Bible was compiled by prophets & apostles, who received revelations as to how the Book of Mormon was compiled from the prophets & apostles who received revelations. These and all the books of scripture go hand in hand. You In my experience when we are not being strictly obedient, not taking the opportunity to study the Word, it leaves a gap in the gate that allows just enough room for Satan or one of his angels to creep in and tempt us, lie to us. Then we stop praying and we stop taking advantage of the Atonement, and before we know it we are not making the best of decisions, we start feeling inadequate, we stop praying and then Satan has a firm grasp. Don’t let him win, you must turn to the Light if the World. There is a quote there, supposedly from Christ that says: “I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it.” The church of Jesus Christ is the one and only true church on the face of the earth it holds the name of Jesus Christ unlike any other church it has prophets and apostles as spoken of in the New Testament and Old Testament we live by the commandments we believe in Jesus Christ the one and only Jesus Christ who in the pre-existence we knew as our brother Jehovah the one Jesus Christ to took upon Himself our sins, our sorrows, suffering by way of the Atonement. I encourage you to look at at yourself as a daughter of God and ask if He is pleased with your decisions, I would also encourage you to dust off your Book of Mormon and kneel with real intent asking God if that record which was especially written for the last day if it is true, having faith and believing God will hear and answer your prayer. Should you, like millions of others find that the Holy Ghost bears witness to you, then step up to the plate and soak all that you can in. God is waiting for you to make that move, to ask for His forgiveness (something I have to do daily). He will not force you to believe His gospel, but will also have to implement the consequences of our choices and accountability. You are a princess of a King, even our Father in Heaven, He awaits for each of His children to have humbled hearts and for those lost ones He wants them come back. Ultimately with the gift of free agency It is our decision as to what we want to receive for or eternal future, we are our own Destiny. Trials and tribulations will happen, that is what makes us strong. I have found the Commandments are like a roadmap they are our direction back to our heavenly home, they help us be a better person if we are keeping them, where if we don’t keep the Commandments then we have no promise. I have family members who left the church because they wanted to drink, smoke, not feel guilty for not keeping the Sabbath day Holy etc. The Church of Jesus Christ... was not for them, so they were baptized in the Catholic Church, the felt far less guilty. Sadly for them they will reap what they sewed and will only achieve the glory they could live in on earth.

[@joestim8707]

tiffani smith tiff- don't listen to janu- she is angry because people misquote LM LDS- well. SHE is doing the same with Catholics. I am Cat H I, do not drinkor smoke & I honor the Sabbath because I try not to shop on Sun or go out to eat on the Lord"s Day- Just because her family. had fake CATH- does not mean this one is- TTY his woman needs to do her homework!

[@thedevilsadvocate5210]

Can you still go to Utah if you quit Mormonism?

[@theslifestyle2030]

The young man in the hat listening to both is definitely going to follow Christianity ✝️🙏 Praise be to God 🙏

[@deloresm7494]

I used to be outraged at Christians knocking my Catholic faith. But I was nominal and born into it. Then I started to practice Catholicism and it contradicted with my bible readings. This was 20 years ago, but alot of people don't know the faith they were born in.now I'm born again

[@alliebahbah7139]

Delores M praise God! I was raised RC though not strictly. But over the past two years God showed me truth! The Catholic Church is a cult and one of many. But I have SUCH a hard time reaching any of my catholic friends/family.

[@codtapactual7977]

Delores M worshiping under the catholic faith is contributing to blasphemy period. Im glad you have separated from it. The pope by nature is a blasphemous individual who claims he can forgive sins and represents both the 10 horned beast that daniel wrote in the bible and that john described in revelations

[@zipper778]

@The Dúnedain In other videos he has stated that he likes the ESV. I've also heard Durbin talk positively about the NASB and the even the KJV.

[@bobholmes65]

Delores! Christ Himself founded the Catholic faith. Attack the Church is very unChristian. Please, do not spread falsehoods. I am Episcopalian. I guess I am total rubbish to you.

[@zipper778]

@@bobholmes65 Christ did not found a church in Rome to be led by a pope. He founded a church that was to base it's doctrines upon the scriptures, not some man made tradition system of acorns developing into oak tree systems. I have no problem saying that the church is catholic (meaning according to the whole), but it's not Roman Catholic.

[@aleftav7231]

The spirit of God start cleansing to this Mormon guy. He never is going to be the same. May God bless your work.

[@joestim8707]

Alef Tav let s pray durbbin becomes LDS-!

[@aleftav7231]

@@joestim8707 ye u go first.

[@SiLL-E-Meat]

@@joestim8707 59:14 mormon getting cleansed with a smile! 😀

[@bottletree33]

I'm sure Jeff is praying for this fella as he is speaking with him. God bless your wonderful ministry.

[@johnbee9957]

This is a case of the blind leading the blind. Both the trinitarians and the Mormon are blinded to the truth of God

[@Nick-ov2hg]

JohnBee So you think Trinity is false? Not biblical?

[@johnbee9957]

@@Nick-ov2hg Of course it's false, there is no such teaching, taught anywhere in the Bible. And there is not a single person through all of Bible history, worshiped as triune God. Which would include, though not limited to Jesus Himself. With that said, look how easy the trinity is disproven; Who is Jesus' God? Is there any other God, other than Jesus' God? The trinity is both a lie and a deception. And we need to get as far away from it as possible.

[@jlfcpa]

@@johnbee9957 when Jesus was baptised all 3 were mentioned.

[@johnbee9957]

@@jlfcpa Citing the Father, Son and Holy spirit does not constitute the trinity.

[@CorrynAlice]

I just began Bible study with two missionaries and I have already planted seeds in them ❤ they can see through me the Glory of God which has saved me ❤ the reason Mormons have a hard time is because they affirm to themselves “we are the one true church” instead of “Jesus is the one true God” and it makes them attached to the religion as an idol

[@jesuscross9]

I really loved this brother. Love the way you were gentle and not quarrelsome, patient, well adapted to teach in meekness instruction, leading him who opposes himself, that perhaps God may grant him repentance to the acknowledging of the truth and he may escape the snare of the devil. May God richly bless you and your ministry.

[@brotherbread6549]

So many biblical and factual mic drop moments by Jeff. You kept calm and continued to bring the truth. That's the holy spirit at work right in front of us. Thank you Heavenly Father!

[@smalltimer4370]

The truth does not come in the form of lies - ie, the trinity

[@colleencampbell172]

@@smalltimer4370 repent now

[@fruit-filledolivetree5056]

😂 Durbin: “You need to hang out a lot in John 1... Like A LOT.” 😂 Diesel Durbin does it again 💯

[@chatnoir8524]

Is there a timestamp for that?

[@rafaelguerra9888]

I did that with a jw's. We talked about John 1:1c. And it didn't take a lot. We just got to learn how to presented it to them. They believe the word *[A]* should be in john 1:1c. As: "and the Word was [A] God." We just have to be knowledgeable enough to show that it cannot be there.

[@pacificwarrior7679]

@@chatnoir8524 it's at 32:20

[@TheGoodShepard31]

Thank you Jeff helping me get thru this. ❤❤❤ I’m a get baptized soon at apologia south Jordan. I’m a native to Los angeles. May the Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless you ❤

[@deadeye851]

I admire the work of the Holy Spirit within you, Jeff.

[@kevinrodriguez-bi5im]

Its amazing and his patience with people is wao

[@magssr]

Amen

[@gabeledbetter6803]

This is the definition of wisdom. He gives this man the truth. Countless times he could’ve said I got you I got you but he doesn’t because he knows that that man’s pride would instantly put up a wall and he could no longer share the gospel

[@zachariaheukel9293]

Beautiful Isn't it? REAL Love. I'm in Awe of GOD working through Jeff.

[@JessLichtey-vi9wh]

It BLOWS my mind & convicts me at the same time how cool & collective Jeff is & the amount of grace & patience he is showing this man.

[@Landis_Grant]

Jeff was well behaved because he was being videotaped.

[@tdogable]

Kudos to these guys for being able to have a passionate debate while remaining civil

[@SchmidtsterChick]

This was posted in 2016 but I cant help but wonder where this young man is today. Where is he, what is he doing at this very moment? Were seeds planted? Did his conscience wrestle with any of this after the fact? Never cease praying for for these individuals! Wouldn't it be cool to get to heaven and see this young man there? To hear his testimony and find out God heard our continual prayers even three years later and reached down and saved this young man.❤

[@xlombardo82]

Amen!

[@danielmoore4024]

@@xlombardo82 Sorry to say to you both, but I'll say what I must. If you all just continually arrogantly tell people they're lost without giving a Christ like impression, but be forceful they'll know you only want them for your own gain and don't really love them. If they stop believing what they believe now doesn't mean they'll automatically begin believing the same as you. Most people who leave The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints say, "There is no Jesus Christ." So they obviously don't believe what any of you believe. The best way to preach is how Christ preached, I believe that's why the missionaries are more successful, they have the courage to say what they believe is true and let people throw stones, cast fiery darts and face the persecution. When Christ preached to the rich man, when the rich man would not sell his riches did Christ chase after him or let him choose for himself? Why do you all make alliances against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and discriminate them? Why don't you tell them what you believe is true? I've got the feeling you all know you have alternative beliefs to one another and you know if you reveal your differences you'll find people throwing rocks at you as prophesied, all false churches built unto man shall contend against one another. 2 Nephi 28:3-4 3 For it shall come to pass in that day that the churches which are built up, and not unto the Lord, when the one shall say unto the other: Behold, I, I am the Lord’s; and the others shall say: I, I am the Lord’s; and thus shall every one say that hath built up churches, and not unto the Lord- 4 And they shall contend one with another; and their priests shall contend one with another, and they shall teach with their learning, and deny the Holy Ghost, which giveth utterance.

[@xlombardo82]

@@danielmoore4024 You have effectively misrepresented the replies to this post, just like Mormons misrepresent the word of God. The word is truth. Either you accept it or you reject it. Mormonism rejects it. I am going to take a page out of Jeff's book (actually the Bible) and extend to you the offer of us beginning a relationship. What do you say to that? Can we do that?

[@danielmoore4024]

@@xlombardo82 If you're just going to keep saying I'm lost don't bother, for I know Christ is the world's Saviour, The Book of Mormon is true and testifies the Bible as true, as the Bible prophesies scriptures revealed in the latter days. Acts 6:7, "And the word of God increased;" As prophesied by Isaiah the people were going to be put into a spiritual sleep while the Lord performed a marvelous work among them. Isaiah 29:9-12 9 ¶ Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink. 10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Before you tell me the sealed book is referring to the Bible, think first. Was the Bible ever a sealed book? No. Were learned men ever unable to read it? No. So the sealed book is obviously not the Bible. Isaiah 29:14 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. The world was put in a spiritual sleep, the prophets were covered and Christ performed a marvelous work. 1 Nephi 9:5-6 5 Wherefore, the Lord hath commanded me to make these plates for a wise purpose in him, which purpose I know not. 6 But the Lord knoweth all things from the beginning; wherefore, he prepareth a way to accomplish all his works among the children of men; for behold, he hath all power unto the fulfilling of all his words. And thus it is. Amen. This marvelous work was the preparation for the restoration and gathering of Israel. Ezekiel 37:15-17 15 ¶ The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. Two records shall become one in thine hand in the last days, one record by Judah and one by Joseph. We know the Bible is a record of Judah. 3 Nephi 15:12 12 Ye are my disciples; and ye are a light unto this people, who are a remnant of the house of Joseph. The Nephites made the record of Joseph. One stick for Judah, one stick for Joseph and they became one in thine hand. 2 Nephi 29:8 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also. "the testimony of two nations is a witness" Acts 17:26 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; "all nations" not just Jerusalem. Ezekiel 37:18-22 18 ¶ And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 ¶ And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: The Lord knew and saw the Great Apostasy and knew his people were going to dwindle in unbelief and would need another witness of Christ for the gathering of Israel. D&Cs 1:29-30 29 And after having received the record of the Nephites, yea, even my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., might have power to translate through the mercy of God, by the power of God, the Book of Mormon. 30 And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foundation of this church, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually- Isaiah 29:18-19 18 ¶ And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. 19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the Lord, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. All these records and prophecies by Isaiah, Ezekiel and Nephi and his descendants is The Book of Mormon, it has opened the eyes of millions and brought them unto Christ. There's lots of scriptures in the Bible of Christ, the apostles and prophets declaring that the Father is Jesus Christ's God, if Christ is God, doesn't that make the Father God's God? Ephesians 1:3 "the God ... of our Lord Jesus Christ," As others have said, the Trinity is not taught in the Bible and let me explain. Acts 10:38 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. If Jesus is God, the beginning of this scripture is synonymous to "God anointed God", then look at the end and read, "and God was with him." Now we have to cover how these don't contradict "there's only one God", as we do so you'll see the Father has a body and will resolve the confusion caused by John 4:24, "God is a Spirit" that contradicts all the prophets and apostles who saw God in visions as someone with a body. At the end where the scripture says "and God was with him." since the Holy Ghost was with Christ and is a member of the God Head, the God that was with Christ is the Holy Ghost. Since this claims the Holy Spirit is a God, John 4:24 is resolved that God is a Spirit for it is not talking about the Father then it no longer contradicts other scriptures. In Genesis God says, "let's create man in our image", that states the Father and the Son have the same form and image as each other, so because Christ has a body so does the Father. We've already accomplished the Father is a God, Christ is a God, and the Holy Spirit is a God. The stumbling block people have is they don't know what "one" means. When you look at other scriptures involving the term "one" you'll see one means one in purpose. If you interpret the scriptures as three God's as one in purpose the scriptures will not contradict. How does your interpretation of one God not contradict; Ephesians 1:3 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: "the God ... of our Lord Jesus Christ,"

[@melvinsoto5321]

Me too

[@azbugman1]

Good Job Jeff! It was like watching a Lion gently, and lovingly guide a sheep along the path. The young man so desperately wants to be right about his beliefs yet doesn't have the foundation of truths to stand on. Intellectually, he struggles to defend a belief that is indefensible. Jeff is very kind to him, and I have learned a lot on multiple levels.Watching The Holy Spirit through Jeffs display of patience, and loving kindness towards the young man was an object lesson I am in need of. Thank you for all you do!

[@coywitt3740cw]

I have so much respect for Mormons and JW to be willing to go out and share their beleifs the way they do. It's just a shame that it's a false doctrine. I wish more Christians were willing to share the true gospel of who Jesus really is.

[@bobafett317]

So very well said John, totally agree.

[@simbadlemarin1815]

@@coywitt3740cw You have so much respect for those who worship themselves and the false gods that they have created because they make attempts to spread their disgusting doctrine that is entirely contrary to the one delivered to the saints once and for all? Really?

[@coywitt3740cw]

@@simbadlemarin1815 The respect is for the their work ethics only. Christians should be willing to do the same thing but most do not. I do not condone what they are doing or what they teach.

[@colleencampbell172]

@@simbadlemarin1815 wow you must be a joy to be around I can’t believe after his remark what you came up with was what you wrote down above. You are exactly like the Mormon in this video above, judge mental and wrong.

[@adri.a15]

It is so hard to talk to Mormons sometimes. It just breaks my heart. My heart goes out to this community who are full of faith and seeking Jesus, but just don’t have it right. I’m currently talking to a few Mormon missionaries (it’s been going on for a couple months) with another Baptist buddy of mine. They’re just boys in their teens who have only been fed Mormonism and haven’t been encouraged or even gotten the chance to question and challenge and research their faith. I have such a love for the boys but the more I talk to them the more I get stuck and the more my heart breaks for them. I know I probably won’t be the one to change them, but I don’t wanna give up on them even though I feel our conversations being more and more stale and fruitless. If anyone sees this and finds it in their heart to pray for these boys, please do. God bless you 💛

[@stricken0242]

I have done the same thing. They are children and starting to become men and are decieveing people.they hide the fact that they are mormon they claimed to be christian until a few visits and then pull out the book of mormon. I told them alot that showed their falsehoods in the mormon teachings. I pray for all the LDS children that they get the truth and save their brothers and sisters in their false religion. They stay because they get shunned from the family , church,and community and nowhere to go

[@wiseguy9202]

I feel the same about all religions. Every one of them think they have it right of course...I grew up catholic and obviously our way was the only way and there are a million reasons as to why. I've since moved to the south where Baptist is apparently the only way....

[@zaneaguilar5274]

Be strong in His mighty power, sister! Do not grow weary in doing good.

[@cliftonwk]

Man, everytime the Mormon asks Jeff a question, as soon as Jeff starts to answer the Mormon is all "whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa" like he can't accept that Jeff has a biblical answer.

[@The-Carpenter]

Jeff's patience and his knowledge of the Bible is simply incredible.

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

Don't it make you want to seek the Lord as much? We're all called to give an answer, amen?

[@kennywilliams123]

Big deal , he’s able to recite from a book a fairy tales.

[@The-Carpenter]

@@kennywilliams123 Can you... recite from a book of fairy tales that thick?

[@kennywilliams123]

@The Carpenter yours might be the dumbest reply yet…. So because the Bible is thick, that makes it true? If that wasn’t so stupid, it would be funny.

[@The-Carpenter]

@@kennywilliams123 How stupid you must be to think that.

[@maiaem7690]

He says "listen " lot for someone who refuses to listen.

[@TheMfrogg]

How many times does Jesus say I speak the truth, menoftruth.org/archives/130 I'm gonna review all the scriptures listed on website, next week, I could think of one or two, but there may be more, something to check out, even Jesus had to say it as well, ...

[@elephantshrew6304]

It was so irritating

[@TheMfrogg]

@@elephantshrew6304 yes it becomes irritating. When people have the truth, it's hard to share with others who are already indoctrinated. As yourself, would you be monologuing or dialogueing with someone who has the truth and would you debate and listen?

[@elephantshrew6304]

Mega Froggy I’ve been in a Christian cult and am now in a new church that is not a part of the NAR movement. I left the deeply invested old church because I was seeing revealing information online about the movement my old church was following. I think some people are given over to their delusions as the the Bible says “And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not be done.” Romans 1:28 ESV We see that if people do not listen to God’s correction, he may give them up to their desires. Now, if you seek God you will find him! It’s promised in Jeremiah 29:13 “You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.” ESV You must be willing to accept the truth of God if you diligently seek him with a heart ready for him. This is why it is irritating to say you know the truth but will not investigate it especially concerning God and the scriptures you say you know but will not acknowledge the wisdom of. “Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. Many of them therefore believed, with not a few Greek women of high standing as well as men. Acts 17:11 ESV It is commendable to research scripture to verify its truthfulness and is seen as a noble work where belief is made possible.

[@TheMfrogg]

@@elephantshrew6304 I agree, as a once atheist, I see how hard it is to prove to other atheist that God is real, even with the knowledge that brought me in. These people are in search for truth, but they are indoctrinated, as a Christian talking to another Christian about certain salvation scriptures, one of the two might be blinded. Anyways, I agree.

[@majesticmelvin]

Let us pray fervently that the Lord would save this young man, if it is His will.

[@DanThemes]

Steven, please provide evidence for you claims.

[@ryantaylor102]

Steven Eri Evidence

[@John119119]

Joel well said. Amen.

[@majesticmelvin]

Thanks for the question Jesse, The Mormon needs to be saved. I, as well as all other Christians, use the word of God to discern who is saved or not. If you are not saved, then you need to be saved. Salvation comes by Grace through faith in Christ alone, we know this thanks to the bible, and all the glory goes to God, because He is the one doing the saving. Repent and believe in God. Don't let your sins keep a grip on your life. Confess Jesus as Lord and fight the good fight.

[@SuperElgringo1]

"Saved", elaborate please. I've always been fascinated about what we're meant to be being saved from, what with an omnipotent god n'all. Omnipotent being the operative word. What kind of being creates a universe with everything needed to support life, and everything in it. He knows everyones thoughts, he knows everything, he is all powerful, right?. So why do you want to save us from him, because the god you worship, according to your worldview caused everything. Why not tell him go fuck himself for being a hypocrite, child murdering, bigoted fuck face who wouldn't even know how to spell morality, let alone create it. Wake up people, Norway and Japan have no religion and they're the best countries in the world, most of Europe were I live have abandoned religion too, like we did the tooth fairy and Santa, same principles apply. I know it's lucrative for some to stay religious, but for the people who believe just because that seems the right thing to do, please rethink it through.

[@minervagonzales3787]

Pastor Durbin, GOD BLESS & keep you SAFE as well as your ministry.

[@nohandle00000]

I would love to hear this man is now saved and believes in the biblical gospel 💛 Praying for you, Robert.

[@johnbee9957]

The Biblical gospel would be a great thing indeed, though it is obvious that there is no triune god in the gospel, and so it's important that the truth be uphold in such cases if we are to expect salvation.

[@seal9390]

@@johnbee9957 False. kzbin.info/aero/PL1mr9ZTZb3TWpnOJV09MuEAwbbQNCS6Qf

[@amandacarpenter7598]

This Paster really knows the BIBLE i love learning from him.

[@smalltimer4370]

He's a fraud - most of his arguments have been proven to be bunk, yet he continues to mislead others because he has no regard for the truth of God

[@billhildebrand5053]

Smalltimer no he has Jesus

[@adamduncan6513]

@@smalltimer4370 can you please provide sources for your stance here?

[@scriptwriter1268]

Does this really go on for an hour plus? Are they really arguing over where Jesus was born? In some cases, in these type of videos you could easily have a Presbyterian VS a Lutheran VS a Baptist. Now, I'm not advocating Mormonism here but this idea of everyone having the EXACT same interpretation of minor points, dates of birth, pre-trib, post-trib etc. is not only not realistic, its dissention, its causing fractions etc Most importantly, these knowledge battles are unlikely to win ANY converts. It becomes nothing more than a debate with the power of human effort alone. This should concern us all

[@raymondtwigg6173]

Listening to these two reminds me of the trump, biden debate!

[@kandtherestcandtherest9080]

I love this video because I'm watching three men having a civil relationship and conversation without any wrath.

[@Anonymous-ln7iy]

That moment when a Christian knows Mormonism better than a Mormon

[@brianprengerdrewdavis6984]

Hale Hafa no, they aren’t.

[@markd9946]

Are you being hypothetical, Mr. Copy and Paste ? No matter how many times you copy and paste your lies, they are still lies and meant to deceive. You have no power among God's children. Shame on you. Repent and ask God to help you learn the truth.

[@TheJlleyba]

Jeff knows one thing and that is how to manipulate the scriptures. This servant of God is maybe 18 or 19. Jeff is way up on him in years and experience, I mean he probably attended the school of anti-Christ and how to manipulate people. I do believe that God will find more favor in his young apprentice who is doing his best to spread the gospel of truth and light vs, the one that is making every effort to destroy ones faith. Sort of like Cain and Able.

[@elguapo6164]

Mormons wouln't be mormons if they really knew what they were following.

[@alisalauzon9291]

I think this actually happens often ,especially if born into a church..Or even if they door knocked and brought someone in. People don't always know the deeper teachings,in the church they attend.

[@Jdwg1972]

Praise God for a faithful servant such as Jeff. I would love to study with this man. God has given Jeff a magnificent capacity to understand, communicate and share, with great clarity, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It’s amazing, and demonstrated through Jeff’s loving interactions, how God’s truths can never be twisted. Praying that every encounter brings another soul for Christ.

[@swarlesbarkely2449]

Jeff has memorized scripture amazingly well, but can't really answer direct questions. He was asked specific questions and even though he answered with specific scripture, the scripture didn't actually answer the question at all in many cases. There is more to following Christ than memorizing scripture.

[@Ruarkg]

Can one person be such a fool. I am non religious whatsoever, but today I am a born again Christian through pastor Durbin

[@jablight4092]

Supposed to b born again thru Jesus n the holy spirit. May wanna look into whether or not ur placing too much emphasis on an institution

[@SamaritanElad]

JaB Wolf: All he is saying is that because of Jeff, his eyes are opened. Lets Celebrate :-) All it takes is a spark of Truth

[@antbones3618]

You came to Christ through this video? That’s amazing!!! Amen brother welcome!!!

[@jordanw1649]

@@SamaritanElad let's all calm down here.. only God knows the intention of his heart with the statement he made. I believe he was trying to correct her and lead her closer to truth. Either way let's celebrate our new sister in Christ

[@JemLi-hc2xm]

I was approached by missionaries and almost was lured into it. But I was so happy I found a loving Alliance Christian Church and a lovely young group that helped me go nowhere but the Bible and Jesus Christ. No one no works can do the work. But through faith and the love of Jesus our God who Died for our sins. I pray for all the lost souls who dose not know the bible or is reading the wrong doctrines. Hope they will one day come to the right path.

[@jeremiahcoles2378]

Hey Jeff I appreciate how patient and you are and yet not a push over. Inspiring and encouraging to hear your knowledge of God's word and how you guide people through scripture. It truly is a double edged sword that cut though to the soul.

[@smalltimer4370]

Unfortunately, Mr Durbin's beliefs are not in-alignment with the teachings and commandments of Jesus' Christ.

[@chaselittle2601]

@@smalltimer4370 uh it’s pretty dead on.

[@smalltimer4370]

@@chaselittle2601 At what point did Jesus say, worship a triune god? At what point in all of Bible history, do we find anyone worshiping such a god? Where in Jesus' teachings and commandments, are we told preach the trinity? Why is the trinity completely missing in doctrine of godliness established by Jesus Christ? Having said that, why are so-called trinitarians, and who are calling themselves Christians, going around worshiping, teaching and preaching a god that is completely unlike the GOD of Jesus Christ? If followers of Christ are distinguished by imitating Jesus Christ, then what do we make of those who are worshiping, teaching and preaching a god, completely unlike the GOD of Jesus Christ? Quite clearly, our definitions of; 'dead-on', are not the same. As 'dead-on', would imply that true Christians, worship, teach and preach exactly as Jesus did on earth - no more, no less. And that those who do not honor Jesus' teachings and commandments, are not in fact Christians, but rather, apostates of Christ, as these one's are actually following a different doctrine and teaching, and who are clearly not worshiping - not only, as Jesus did in truth, but every, single, prophet approved by GOD before Him... And so, in-spite of what you have been told to believe, the conclusion is that Mr Durbin is not in alignment with Jesus' teachings and commandments - of this, we have been warned; _whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ, doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the Father and the Son_ - 2 John 1.9 _beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world_ - 1 John 4.1 _for the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside to fables_ - 2 Timothy 4.3-4 _'these people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men'"_ - Matthew 15.8-9 _If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn't consent to sound words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, 4he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy, strife, insulting, evil suspicions, 5constant friction of people of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such_ - 1 Timothy 6.3-5

[@Niki-mo1wf]

Amen Amen

[@blackmon165]

Thank you for for recording this video Jeff, As a Christian it motivates me to be responsible with my walk with God. Amen

[@jhunmesiano1367]

Angel Nunez me too. from the Philippines.

[@MrJeffrey316]

A broken clock is right twice a day actually. It's like talking to Jesus! God is really working through Jeff. So much knowledge and imparts it while being so courteous.

[@labekstorm3670]

God bless you Pastor for sharing God's Blessings to the lost soul. Will pray for your ministry.

[@DavidDouglasToth]

These young LDS guys don’t have a chance against a well read, Spirit filled pastor.

[@DavidDouglasToth]

@Sir Kyushu You are made in the image of God. God knows the number of hairs on your head and the day you will die. He desires that you know him, have faith in him and spend eternity with him. Seek and you will find. God please draw this person to you, bless them and keep them all the days of their life.

[@edhollingsworth2335]

When breaking down false doctrine the demon always keeps switching the subject and trying to create confusion and contradiction in order to keep from being exposed.

[@Reformed1-e1c]

That is completely true.

[@notimportant4810]

How can he argue for his beliefs when he is afraid to admit to his church's teachings? He refused to acknowledge the Mormon precepts and simply pretended that he didn't understand them, so how do they send him out to preach to non mormons?

[@ashleymadison9380]

I reject that.

[@danielmoore4024]

@@notimportant4810 The missionaries are not assigned to preach the deep parts of the doctrine during their mission, the deeper beliefs are taught at church. The missionaries just share the restoration by Joseph Smith and prepare the investigators to be baptized by sharing practices, the word of wisdom for example.

[@befitbestronglivelife7960]

Ed Hollingsworth makes sense because Democrat's do that too

[@davidscottdickens678]

amen I live in Utah an Iam a born again Christian an learning to share the gospel this is so helpful

[@paulsmith6532]

I'm just discovering your ministry, and wow, awesome. I have been mass consuming ad much as I can. Your conversations are edifying my soul. So thank you.

[@RyanMenard8]

listen, listen, linda, linda, listen linda, linda listen

[@JiHyePark14]

So that's what I was thinking!! Hahaha

[@Luke18_13]

Lol

[@badenteare7611]

hahahaaha......except....Linda didnt want to listen this time lol.....good one man!! :-)

[@SolomonD01]

He sounds jus like him lol

[@rsarahi14]

Lol that’s all I kept thinking about lol