You can see, at points that, Jocelyn seems that he really wants more. He seems sad at times and I am really glad that pastor Durbin pointed out he had been drinking and I think that he knows that it's a problem. I pray that Jocelyn can find peace in Christ and get some help. 🙏
@cantrait73118 сағат бұрын
Total waste of time talking to these brainwashed doom sayers
@jmcvety9 сағат бұрын
I don't understand, didn't God decree for Billy to believe and say these things?
@bridgesgijsbers634910 сағат бұрын
My family are all Hebrew roots. It's pretty benign. The things I hate are like saying they won't celebrate Christmas cause it isn't Biblical- but they'll celebrate Hanukkah which is also cultural, not Biblical. A minor miracle getting celebration vs one of the greatest acts of God ever, getting no celebration. And the other thing I hate is the OBSESSION with being Jews. They sound like comic book needs talking about the twelve tribes and which one they are, like they're harry potter houses or something. They pick a tribe like they're talking about zodiacs based on their personalities
@bridgesgijsbers634910 сағат бұрын
Oh the mental hoop they have to jump through, is they have to also claim that Paul and his writings aren't legit. So they have to basically reject half the NT.
@JavierMoralesKingdomChild11 сағат бұрын
😂 brother in the red shirt said, you kinda said that
@KelvinBlue-v6h12 сағат бұрын
Not one Bible verse from these people
@KelvinBlue-v6h12 сағат бұрын
Esau is the sworn enemy of the children of God which are the children of Israel
@chiaming4814 сағат бұрын
To western white people, any religion or culture outside their country is cultic, demonic, satanic. Actually in ancient times, the western civilization was originated from witch,witch doctor,black magic, mythology. Like in ancient times the whole world.
@40fpsgoat1414 сағат бұрын
"Could I enslave a little black man?" 4:19-4:20 this got me dead
@unite4peace8814 сағат бұрын
JW's are in a cult, they can't think independently. That being said, it's all a farce. Here's how you know. The only way to truly protect Gods Word, his word. would be to communicate with man directly. Straighten things out so there is no debate. Man is gonna corrupt anything he gets his hands on, knowing that why wouldn't a loving God just make certain there is no confusion. The bible is full of contradictions and no bible or religion can get past that. Sounds like Man to me.
@b.t.340614 сағат бұрын
I can’t take fat Christians seriously. If they don’t respect their Bible’s teachings on gluttony, why should the world take them seriously?
@dustinstanley913416 сағат бұрын
2 Thessalonians 2:16-17
@Gladiator96-b7i17 сағат бұрын
Sam shamoun agrees with the mormons here 🤷🏻♂️😜
@syedboqari903517 сағат бұрын
Dear Atheist Q: What is your favorite fruit? A: Mango Q: How does the mango tree know that there is a species called human beings, which has an organ called the tongue? This small organ can decode the "mango taste" produced by the tree's fruit. There could be one of three possibilities to explain this: a. The mango tree is a professor with a Ph.D. in tongue studies, fully understanding how this small organ works, and thus produces a fruit that can be identified, appreciated, and enjoyed. b. There is a third entity with complete knowledge of the tongue, which created the mango tree to produce something called taste. This taste can only be experienced when the fruit is placed on the tongue; no other place on Earth can recognize this "taste" code besides this small organ. c. The tree randomly created the mango taste without any idea why it produces the fruit or who is going to use it.
@JohnPerriton19 сағат бұрын
Jacob is not claiming that Eastern Orthodox Christians believe in the same things as what he does regarding theosis!! He merely brings it up as a comparison. The whole point is that the Churchbif Jesus Christ believes that it has more truth than what other denominations do. So we can talk about ideas and expound upon them, because we believe that God’s authority has been bestowed on man in the form or prophets and apostles even in our day.
@JIKOKALOL19 сағат бұрын
Can you give us some advice on how to get our loved ones back in their body's after The Body Snatchers stole them?
@glennatnatglen96419 сағат бұрын
@apologiastudios please come up here for a conference in Southern Alberta Canada. We have so many mormons here that have come up from Utah. It would be an amazing witness
@FiendishFantasy20 сағат бұрын
But the bible says judge not for ye be judged. You go to the church you want too and stop trying to convert everyone to your side just because you disagree. There is no baptist, methodist, mormon, or Pentecost heaven. There's just heaven. I've found in my life the most judgmental and hypocritical people are united states protestants. But they don't affect me bc they have their sins to answer for just as I do.
@JohnPerriton20 сағат бұрын
It seems to me that Heiser in the first video was making a distinction to prove that the Isaiah verses were not disproving the idea of his view of the Trinity. I do t think Jacob was trying to misrepresent Heiser in saying “see! Even one of them believes in the Mormon view of the Godhead and eternal progression”. But the clip does correctly point out Jacob’s view that Isaiah was using idiomatic verbage when talking about one God.
@scootanow8520 сағат бұрын
Amen
@samsonsupaka871621 сағат бұрын
The SDA pastor in the church adjacent to my house said,"Since Jesus cannot be everywhere at the same time the Holy Spirit had to come to do that for him".
@JohnPerriton21 сағат бұрын
Wow. Had to correct himself when he called Jacob brother. Changed it to friend. This guy has a serious hatred for Mormons.
@cloroxbleachg537721 сағат бұрын
As an atheist this is funny. They both in cults
@JohnPerriton21 сағат бұрын
Jeff spent an hour baselessly railing against Jacob saying he doesn’t understand his own church’s teachings about the Restoration compared to the Reformation, and then Jacob literally describes it in the last clip and they say nothing about it then. He basically threw out a ton of ad hominem to try and weaken his viewers’ impression of Jacob Hansen and then came up with a nothing burger.
@kimchhay351721 сағат бұрын
Pouring hot water on the baby, no one actually know but God. Like Abraham sacrifices his son. As human we may say it wrong and would not say it was from God, but Abraham himself known it was God told him to do so. Know one really knows the fullness, only He does. We may receive different revelation on the same thing, and both of us know it genuinely from God, it may happen. We just don't know why it happened. We only need to act accordingly to what we are called to do. Trust Him and follow the Holy Spirit.
@scootanow8521 сағат бұрын
Teerrrible……
@JohnPerriton21 сағат бұрын
Min 45. Paul isn’t reforming. He is correcting, because he has authority as a duly appointed apostle to do so. Reforming would be the people he’s teaching using the scriptures against him to reform to their views
@francoisroy34922 сағат бұрын
Study the fathers of the church ! Because Peter was made the foundation of the Church, there were practical implications: it gave him a special place or primacy among the apostles. As the passages below demonstrate, the early Church Fathers clearly recognized this. Clement of Alexandria “[T]he blessed Peter, the chosen, the preeminent, the first among the disciples, for whom alone with himself the Savior paid the tribute [Matt. 17:27], quickly grasped and understood their meaning. And what does he say? ‘Behold, we have left all and have followed you’ [Matt. 19:27; Mark 10:28]” (Who Is the Rich Man That Is Saved? 21:3-5 [A.D. 200]). Tertullian “For though you think that heaven is still shut up, remember that the Lord left the keys of it to Peter here, and through him to the Church, which keys everyone will carry with him if he has been questioned and made a confession [of faith]” (Antidote Against the Scorpion 10 [A.D. 211]). “[T]he Lord said to Peter, ‘On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18-19]. . . . Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys, not to the Church” (Modesty 21:9-10 [A.D. 220]). The Letter of Clement to James “Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter, the first fruits of our Lord, the first of the apostles; to whom first the Father revealed the Son; whom the Christ, with good reason, blessed” (Letter of Clement to James 1 [A.D. 221]). Origen “[I]f we were to attend carefully to the Gospels, we should also find, in relation to those things which seem to be common to Peter . . . a great difference and a preeminence in the things [Jesus] said to Peter, compared with the second class [of apostles]. For it is no small difference that Peter received the keys not of one heaven but of more, and in order that whatsoever things he binds on earth may be bound not in one heaven but in them all, as compared with the many who bind on earth and loose on earth, so that these things are bound and loosed not in [all] the heavens, as in the case of Peter, but in one only; for they do not reach so high a stage with power as Peter to bind and loose in all the heavens” (Commentary on Matthew 13:31 [A.D. 248]). Cyprian of Carthage “The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
@notsocrates952922 сағат бұрын
I wish I had the platform to call out Billy in his plagiarizing and paraphrasing of Jordan Maxwell's ideas. 15:26 Specifically, all those little word puns and mixed in dog whistle hotep inspired ideas.
@anonymous317422 сағат бұрын
This was months ago. Why so late?
@trevspeaks322 сағат бұрын
I absolutely love you guys and what you do for the Christian faith so take this little side note in love. "Woke" or wokeness has nothing at all to do with being gay. I hate it every time someone uses it out of context to its original meaning. When black people started using "woke" back in the day and in recent years it was about our people being conscious concerning us. It was about educating ourselves and not being ignorant to the world around us. It's deeper than that but I'll leave it there. Please feel free to search it up first then come back and comment... or don't. God bless everyone.
@ryanleonhardt216823 сағат бұрын
There’s a difference between scripture and philosophy. This video is either dishonest or ignorant. Let me know
@JohnPerriton23 сағат бұрын
Mormons still agree that we refer to our church as a restored church and not a reformed church. No prophet has ever come out and said “we need to stop using the word ‘restored’ so we can fit in better with other Christians”. We proudly admit it. The same basic premise that Jacob refers to at min 42 is that the Protestants saw something wrong and moved on to leave the established church and start something else. The first vision with Joseph came along because there was something wrong with established Christendom and God came down to restore the fullness and return his priesthood authority to the earth again.
@lesliematyas1921Күн бұрын
one of the questions is ....when GOD created angels , i m sure they were alll beatiful ....but after 1/3 went with satan and dismissed onto the world here ...many can be extremely horrible /evil ....did they chnged by their innners to reflect the evil????
@lesliematyas1921Күн бұрын
jeff ...at the 38 mark ...you doubted that demons could not have sex and babies come....what of the nephilim giants / like goliath....it states in scripture that the demons/fallen angels saw the daughters on man and had sex with them and produced giants .
@lesliematyas1921Күн бұрын
and why are there no giants today ...yes occasionally a very tall male or female may emerge , but nothing like the giants of old . could demons enter a male and produce more .....just scary to thik of. all i know that is the LORD GOD has His angels fighting the demons around us .
@JohnPerritonКүн бұрын
I’m 41 minutes in and they’ve literally played like 15 seconds of Jacob that they are “refuting”, and not even full sentences. So far it seems like they are cherry picking a few phrases that Jacob says, not full ideas or sentences, and then going off on long winded explanations as to why they think the Mormons believe differently now compared to originally. As a practicing member, I whole heartedly agree with the statements they bring up from the older prophets like Spencer W Kimball and Joseph Smith. At the same time we can believe that no other church on the Earth contained the fullness of the gospel, or had proper priesthood authority, that the creeds are an abomination, that the professors of those creeds are all corrupt (literally meaning they are teaching false ideas and doctrines, particularly about the nature of God) AND that there were still truths that existed in their churches and good that would be done by their interactions with the Spirit. As they profess Jesus and try to bring others to him, that is all good, but it is incomplete because they don’t have God’s authority. Even though the church was in apostasy for 1000’s of years, that doesn’t mean we believe God hates his children and wouldn’t interact with them and would condemn them to an eternity of hell. Their lives still mattered and they will all have the chance to reach heaven and become one with the Father. The picture that these people paint of early Mormon leaders and prophets is that they hated all other religions and preached against them as evil heretical organizations that are doomed to hell. And now the church is all flowers and peaceful and desperate to be included with other Christian churches. However, early members of the Church of Jesus Christ were usually known, as they are today, of being long-suffering good neighbors that treated non-members with respect and even often overlooked things like mobs coming against them to preaching and enticing them to repent and come unto Christ. No essential doctrines have changed, and we don’t constantly go back to older prophets and say “they didn’t know what they were talking about, and now we know better”. On the contrary, I think older prophets and apostles are quoted often and church history is taught in a very open way without trying to hide things
@ArthetravelerКүн бұрын
Billy is amazing. He says all these things that 15-17 year old me would've ate up... and then I grew up and realized I needed proof or I was would've been as blind in my atheism as any run of the mill Christian is.. And then that led me to Christ. Billy needs maturity. His wealth and fame has clouded him from his heart and humility
@JohnPerritonКүн бұрын
I’m 41 minutes in and they’ve literally played like 15 seconds of Jacob that they are “refuting”, and not even full sentences. So far it seems like they are cherry picking a few phrases that Jacob says, not full ideas or sentences, and then going off on long winded explanations as to why they think the Mormons believe differently now compared to originally. As a practicing member, I whole heartedly agree with the statements they bring up from the older prophets like Spencer W Kimball and Joseph Smith. At the same time we can believe that no other church on the Earth contained the fullness of the gospel, or had proper priesthood authority, that the creeds are an abomination, that the professors of those creeds are all corrupt (literally meaning they are teaching false ideas and doctrines, particularly about the nature of God) AND that there were still truths that existed in their churches and good that would be done by their interactions with the Spirit. As they profess Jesus and try to bring others to him, that is all good, but it is incomplete because they don’t have God’s authority. Even though the church was in apostasy for 1000’s of years, that doesn’t mean we believe God hates his children and wouldn’t interact with them and would condemn them to an eternity of hell. Their lives still mattered and they will all have the chance to reach heaven and become one with the Father. The picture that these people paint of early Mormon leaders and prophets is that they hated all other religions and preached against them as evil heretical organizations that are doomed to hell. And now the church is all flowers and peaceful and desperate to be included with other Christian churches. However, early members of the Church of Jesus Christ were usually known, as they are today, of being long-suffering good neighbors that treated non-members with respect and even often overlooked things like mobs coming against them to preaching and enticing them to repent and come unto Christ. No essential doctrines have changed, and we don’t constantly go back to older prophets and say “they didn’t know what they were talking about, and now we know better”. On the contrary, I think older prophets and apostles are quoted often and church history is taught in a very open way without trying to hide things
@tonyhatfield6527Күн бұрын
I heard he hit him with a Bible 😂
@joeyariascootsКүн бұрын
Great convo
@FicarlosКүн бұрын
The more I hear this “pastor” the more I realize he has no clue about Catholicism. He only knows what he’s been told not what he’s ever experience to see what the actual teachings of Catholics teach. Go sit and experience the love instead of studying it thru books
@FicarlosКүн бұрын
This pastor only know half the truth
@Myjesus-1Күн бұрын
Anyone can have a guilty conscience, even an atheist. It is not a sign of salvation. When Jesus died on the cross for the forgiveness of sins, he was then able to provide everything that his chosen ones would need to live a holy life free from sin. He was able to send the Holy Spirit, who has the power to conquer the flesh in human beings so that we can live in true righteousness. We also receive a new heart with God’s laws written on it so that we can live in obedience to God's laws. Jesus gives us these things when he forgives us for our sins. This is what it means to be born again. Christians who have not been transformed by the Holy Spirit to righteousness have not yet been forgiven. If they were, evidence of their conversion would be obvious to them and to others who know them. Jesus does not leave his own people in the flesh, because over time, sin destroys the human conscience and hardens the heart. When we are truly born again we are free from the desires of the flesh. Collosians 2;11 "(Jesus) in whom ye were also circumcised with a circumcision not made with hands, in the putting off of the body of the flesh, in the circumcision of Christ;"
@tonyhatfield6527Күн бұрын
49:44 from my understanding the same could be said for paleo Hebrew correct.? Or am I wrong on this?
@billcichoke2534Күн бұрын
You mean as ST. PAUL put it, completing what Christ's sacrifice did not? Catholics aren't missing anything. Protestants, through their blind eyes and obstinaye worship of their biblical interpretations, are who lack the fullness of the truth.
@davypatt1Күн бұрын
That's 1st Timothy Chapter 2 . But 2nd Timothy chapter 2 was quite a read, don't you think.
@davypatt1Күн бұрын
Jeff just go and read 2nd Timothy chapter 2. Timothy new him personally. He's not lying.
@elkellenhablaКүн бұрын
The Reformers believed baptism saves, just not quite the sort of baptismal regeneration ICC teaches.
@davypatt1Күн бұрын
Does God not tell you he is Immortal. It's in Genesis. So how then if you think jesus is a god is he then being killed. God resurrected Jesus, not he himself.
@davypatt1Күн бұрын
Why do you call me good. There is none good save one who is God. Jesus said this, making a distinction between himself and the God he worshiped.