Apple M2 MacBook Air - 100 Hours Later: It's Ridiculous

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Andrew Ethan Zeng

Andrew Ethan Zeng

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@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng Жыл бұрын
Apple just announced the new 15" variant at a really reasonable $1,299 and the 13" in this video is now lowered to $1,099. Which size would you get? MacBook Pro M2 Max Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKi6ZmNmZqyMl68
@arcadiosincero
@arcadiosincero Жыл бұрын
13". I just switched to an MBA 13 from a MBP 16 because I got tired of lugging around that heavy ass MBP. So basically going from one extreme to another I guess. I'm suspecting, though, that a MBP 14 would be the sweet spot for me. I'll see how well this MBA 13 goes for my use case.
@Limonata_uwuslayqueen
@Limonata_uwuslayqueen 9 ай бұрын
Did you come across overheating issues lot?
@75and1
@75and1 2 жыл бұрын
I had it for 4 days and I can’t put it down. Even coming from an M1 AIR, this thing is a beauty. I went for starlight, 8 core gpu, 16gb ram, 512gb SSD
@healthymythic
@healthymythic 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you could have gone with 14"inch pro models with few extra dollars...btw great purchase 👍
@75and1
@75and1 2 жыл бұрын
@@healthymythic I know, but I prefer portability vs power. With this configuration is still enough for my usage and the 14” is bulkier
@jackhamm7745
@jackhamm7745 2 жыл бұрын
Exact model I got. Love it so far. I wanted the portability and I'm not using it for power use (I have a desktop for that). So it's perfect.
@Aryonwilica218
@Aryonwilica218 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking about buying I want to start video editing and maybe a little music mixing and audio should I add on the Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro to the total
@jackhamm7745
@jackhamm7745 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aryonwilica218 If you're going to really get into video editing you may want to consider getting a Pro model. Not that the air can't handle most of it, but it could be slow at buffering and exporting. Make sure to look at reviews about those tasks and how the AirM2 handles it. Video editing is the definition of "power use".
@JoshAmes1980
@JoshAmes1980 2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine yesterday (not the base model) and honestly so far it's the best computer I've ever owned. It's super sleek, slim, light and handles anything I throw at it with ease and has barely gotten warm so far. I'm very impressed.
@Lost_In_LA
@Lost_In_LA 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dream laptop for vast majority of end users. I love the new look.
@Lost_In_LA
@Lost_In_LA 2 жыл бұрын
@Ramp Midnight.
@Lost_In_LA
@Lost_In_LA 2 жыл бұрын
@Ramp It’s fantastic. Fingerprints have never bothered me for some reason.
@troywalt4834
@troywalt4834 2 жыл бұрын
Try low power mode btw
@skoolynugenator1802
@skoolynugenator1802 2 жыл бұрын
How’s the screen?
@zeroxjf
@zeroxjf 2 жыл бұрын
It’s simple: if what you do causes so much stress that the M2 Air starts to heat throttle, get a 14 inch Pro. For most people, it would be near impossible to make it heat throttle. I’ve been testing a base model for weeks and even with my most intense workload, it never gets hot. Never gets above 120 degrees F
@sullychow4123
@sullychow4123 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't excuse Apples design nd pricing for a machine that will usually thermal throttle. Spending more money is a catch all solution lol.
@rickbarrington
@rickbarrington 2 жыл бұрын
At 120F it will be severely degrading cpu performance and over time burn out the gpu
@blahguy164
@blahguy164 2 жыл бұрын
120F is roughly less than 49c. Completely within spec without causing damage.
@mattlikespandas7019
@mattlikespandas7019 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickbarrington no
@ChachoTrades
@ChachoTrades 2 жыл бұрын
If im a day trader, and ill run ThinkOrSwim software, alongside a zoom call, Discord, and multiple tabs open for around 8 hours connected to one 49’ monitor, and 2 35’ curved monitors a day do you think an m1 MBA 16/215g would work ?
@Justin.Franks
@Justin.Franks 2 жыл бұрын
You really should have clarified that the SSD speed issue is _only_ for the 256 GB option. All of the larger SSD options use two NAND chips, but you insinuate that having only one NAND chip is present across all M2 Air models.
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 2 жыл бұрын
But let’s just admit, apple didn’t clock the m2 correctly, the base ssd shouldn’t have been missing a nand, the thermals on the m2 air are inferior to the m1. The heat sink on the m1 is better. The performance difference between this generation and last is not significant enough. Skip the m2
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying an important point Justin!
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammyjammy6647 I understand that the heat sink on the M2 had to be reduced due to the risk of breaking the law by having the base heat up too much due to passive cooling with the 10-core GPU and higher frequency CPU cores. I think you should understand Apple fully tests all the options and has many variables to consider. In this case they decided to not risk higer temps on the base (and law suits) and went for thermal management to regulate the temps. In some interviews Apple reps clearly state that if you are doing intensive sustained work, then do not buy the M2 Air, clear advice, and they add, instead buy a Mac with a fan. Apple cannot be blamed for people ignoring advice or not using common sense, that is down to the individual.
@deividas76
@deividas76 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyH_England I dont get it why Air models exist then? Why it so difficult to put cooler?
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@deividas76 Why do fanless laptops exist? Because that is what people want! The Air was the best selling laptop in the world in 2021, outselling every variant in windows-land. The vast majority of PC users, 90% plus just need a machine to do the light work of say tablets but with no need for touch support. They do not need a big laptop with fans and noise, and vents. They want light and small and there is nothing close to it in Windows-world ATM (WOA coming soon).
@IanJames56
@IanJames56 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@_connic
@_connic 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you should consider regarding storage, is the size. Speed is not gonna be an issue 99%. Reason is simple, if you are gonna be transferring big files (not many small ones) then yes you will get 1.5GB per second instead of 2.5GB sec, which results in 15-20 second loss for a 50GB file (keep that in mind). Now if you are gonna be transferring many small files for a total of 40-50GB the difference will be much smaller, because of random read/write speeds, which are almost identical between the 2 options. This is the important thing anyone fails to mention. However, i would suggest a 512GB model just for the size of it alone. But if you can only update 1 thing then go for RAM which is much much more important. Storage you can hook up an ssd, for ram it's impossible. And as i already said, internal ssd speed, barely even matters between the different config options.
@buckybarnes3015
@buckybarnes3015 2 жыл бұрын
Just got one and dang this is a nice computer, very impressed. As a light user this is perfect for my level of work and daily computing tasks
@MesozoicZac
@MesozoicZac Жыл бұрын
I snagged one at Costco recently. Base model for school work. I wanted the midnight, but when I saw the display models, and I saw all of the nasty fingerprints on the midnight, I went for starlight which looked immaculate in comparison. I can’t do visible fingerprints, they kill me. Starlight’s great though! Love how subtle of a cold color it is, almost looks silver in some lights. Love it so far though! Perfect for homework and the very light video editing/exporting I do. Can recommend to anyone looking for a smashing laptop that won’t break the bank too badly.
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 жыл бұрын
I am a developer for more than 10 years, I received MBA M2 (24GB, 512GB) last week. This fulfills all my needs while developing app and on the go. I have not encountered the CPU throttling on my daily use cases so far. However, at the given price range someone might look for the pro models. I am pretty satisfied so far! :)
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 жыл бұрын
​@Distilled Machine Learning Mostly android related, so - Android studio( emulators and sometimes mobile screen mirroring), VS Code, very ofter Xcode, and other power hungry apps like, slack, teams, chrome. Since this is my work MBA I do not use it for the video or photo editing, However, I am a windows user and have the acer nitro 7 2019 model which I use for all the above stuff(excluding xcode ofcourse) and photo/video editing plus few other software, too.
@cyden2949
@cyden2949 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think I would have problems while using fl studio for a few hours I dont think I would but I never had a MBA so I dont really know What to expect
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyden2949 hmm, I am unsure about how intensive your task would be. If it runs intensively on CPU and GPU for more than 20 minutes continuously, this might hit the processing threshold. Small bursty tasks are great on this, if you wanna run for the longer period , I would suggest to go for the active cooling systems like mac pro, passive cooling in MBA is needed when it is too hot. :)
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv
@DhruvPatelDearDhruv 2 жыл бұрын
@Jo A Copenhagen, DK. we just had summer! :)
@eleventeen5051
@eleventeen5051 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Kick ass cinematic and honest review as always.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wtfhappenedtome
@wtfhappenedtome 2 жыл бұрын
I much prefer your videos without background music. I love your videos, you are my go to guy for tech reviews etc.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! I really should run a poll on this
@Archivist42
@Archivist42 2 жыл бұрын
I do think it’s worth pointing out the SSD slowdown only impacts 256GB capacity. If you go for 512GB I believe this is two 256GB chips which gives the same result as before
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing it out to and covering an important piece I missed!
@LayCritic
@LayCritic 2 жыл бұрын
which was not an issue in m1 mba, so the new gen is downgraded, wth? Apple is being cheap AGAIN.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@LayCritic I tested my workload on my MB Pro 13 M2 and I found that the 256GB SSD was fine. In fact, I mainly use random writes and reads and they were faster than the M1 256GB Air. I simply do not have a workflow where I do 1GB transfers, as the speed tests show. Other videos show, that as a whole the M2 is faster and better than the M1, sometimes by BIG margins (media engine in ProRes). You just need to buy the correct RAM. If you get 16GB then the 256GB drive slower speeds are negated as you do not need swap.
@terrytrvn
@terrytrvn 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyH_England so if you were to get the 16GB ram with the 256SSD, you shouldn’t see any of these slowdown issues that everyone has been complaining about?
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrytrvn Correct, as no swap, or very little swap is needed. I would say to anyone, get 16GB if you are buying for 5+ years as it will future-proof and give headroom if your usage changes over the lifetime. For storage, that is what TB3 is for, just buy a superfast external drive.
@hummersd
@hummersd 2 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, reviewers aren’t “gifted” their units. They have several days to use the units to test and prepare review videos, but they have to send them back.
@sismachine
@sismachine 2 жыл бұрын
sure, but if you want to review the next gadget...
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@sismachine If you do a fair review and can prove your issues then OEMs will not object, but if your review is fake or agenda-driven then you are not going to get further review units, and that will be the case with all OEMs. Just look at Intel, now they only send out units to the preview channels, that are just advertisements really. I suspect they also have NDA's not allowing comparisons with Macs. I saw a YT channel that wanted to do the M1 Mac -v- a selection of Intel machines, but the OEMs all refused to send devices for comparison (for obvious reasons). I feel that people that just think Apple is the only one that tries to market effectively are seriously deluded, as no one, whoever you are wants bad reviews.
@EverythingGizmo
@EverythingGizmo 2 жыл бұрын
After watching Jon Rettinger’s new video on Apple’s controlling PR team, it’s now easy to see which reviews are honest and transparent. And this one definitely is. Thank you for sharing a balanced review that sheds light on the flawsrather than simping
@gregoriom.2502
@gregoriom.2502 2 жыл бұрын
what's the tl;dr on jon's video?
@RealJoseph123
@RealJoseph123 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregoriom.2502 Apple doesn’t give him review units because of dummy units and his iPhone XR review was negative. Apple told him to take it down and he refused so they never invite him to Apple events or even speak to him again. They historically hated leaks, but the iPhone XR review was the nail in the coffin for no communication with his channel. I’d keep in mind he runs clickbait channels like the Apple Circle.
@gregoriom.2502
@gregoriom.2502 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealJoseph123 thanks, so in summary nothing too surprising but I imagine it would instill fear in channels who want to work with apple or why others hold nothing but praise for them
@TheAppleLoadout
@TheAppleLoadout 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealJoseph123 The Apple Circle is the worst "Apple" channel. Rettinger's video about the PR story was typical. Played the victim when he deliberately used the dummy phones.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
That was sour grapes and he should have just taken down the video as Apple has clear guidelines with NDA'a as do other OEMs. It was nothing out of the ordinary, C4Tech in India did a Samsung review they did not like and Samsung stopped sending him early access. I think you are very naive if you do not think that those that do negative reviews are going to keep access, as no one with any sense will keep sneding devices to influencers that are producing anti-videos.
@leoribeirop
@leoribeirop Жыл бұрын
I think would be important for you to mention that the 256GB one is the only version of the MacBook Air M2 has one slot instead two. 512GB, 1TB and yo are still 2 slots like the M1 and has even faster speeds in reading and writings files/softwares!
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 2 жыл бұрын
I love the new form factor it's so nice to hold on it doesn't dig in your hands unlike the older design
@akizer0
@akizer0 2 жыл бұрын
For people on the fence and afraid about the SSD, DONT. If you have a really specific heavy workload that tax the cpu hard, go for Macbook Pro 14". otherwise, The Air M2 is great mobile workhorse. Pair it with 16GB of RAM, minimizing the swap that tax the SSD. Dont feel obligated to upgrade the SSD if you dont upgrade the RAM first. If you have budget for both upgrade (I dont), and have to pick only 1, go for RAM. A certain YT will points about the SSD speed, but that was done with 8GB RAM 256GB vs 16GB RAM 512GB. So it is actually 2 variables, not single variable.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. The YT creator in question did many videos but never did the baseline of 16GB/256GB which would have once and for all told us if it was the slower SSD, or teas it too little RAM for what you were doing? Other creators did do that comparison and proved conclusively that the 8GB of RAM, not the 256GB of NAND was the main culprit in performance loss. The take from this OTT 256GB drama, is that if you get the RAM your work needs then the 256GB makes very little difference to the average user, and the MB Air is mainly for that demographic (no fan ultrabook).
@averageyoutubeuser2475
@averageyoutubeuser2475 2 жыл бұрын
most accurate comment i’ve seen in the whole week. Talked with a friend at apple before purchasing the M2 and advised me to go 16gb. Indeed it’s a great decision. I’m a cloud based service addict so, that’s the way!
@rudyvillafane
@rudyvillafane Жыл бұрын
NOTE at ~ 11:17: Yes, it's true the MacBook Air does not support 2 external monitors natively. However, it is noteworthy to mention that the MacBook Air *can* support multiple external displays via DisplayLink adapters or docking stations. I personally am able to run 2 external displays at 2K. To keep things fair, there are a few drawbacks to DisplayLink--but, these have not been deal-breakers in my experience thus far.
@SparkycgdHD
@SparkycgdHD 2 жыл бұрын
It's EASY to get caught up in reviews. From real-life users though, I've only heard positive. From my research and experience, I've ordered m2 air 16gb ram 512 gb ssd
@sykes2698
@sykes2698 2 жыл бұрын
That’s literally exactly what I ordered last week. The 16ram version and 512 gb ssd completely removes the issues faced by new m2 MacBook Air users, so I went the safe route
@jamesangier624
@jamesangier624 2 жыл бұрын
@@sykes2698 im a software developer and i also ordered the 16gb ram & 512gb ssd. been doing a fair bit of work on it this week and its held up amazingly, never thermal throttled but obv thats only an issue if youre a video or photo editor in which the pro line up is there for those people. enjoy your mac!
@sykes2698
@sykes2698 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesangier624 thanks James! Looks like I made the right decision.
@ianmumford7176
@ianmumford7176 2 жыл бұрын
I got the same
@carlosguillen3251
@carlosguillen3251 2 жыл бұрын
just got mine today! it’s awesome same configuration
@scottt3491
@scottt3491 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review. Since I'm upgrading from a 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 from mid 2012, I think M2 is still a major upgrade! Macbook oxygen.
@cobra-wo3tg
@cobra-wo3tg 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first Mac laptop and I think it's great! I've had it for 2 days and it's remained cool to the touch doing regular tasks compared to my old Windows laptop which runs quite hot with the loud fan constantly running doing the same tasks. The Air is so much better. I got starlight and I haven't noticed any fingerprints at all thankfully.
@Elliot235
@Elliot235 2 жыл бұрын
Have you been running Microsoft word etc with it?
@cobra-wo3tg
@cobra-wo3tg 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Elliot235 I don't have MS Office installed - I usually use Google Docs for that type of work. Just basic web browsing or watching KZbin videos for a while was enough to heat up the laptop and trigger the fan.
@jayjohn223
@jayjohn223 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobra-wo3tg the air doesn’t have a fan tho
@cobra-wo3tg
@cobra-wo3tg 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayjohn223 I was referring to my old Windows laptop that I mentioned in my original comment.
@jayjohn223
@jayjohn223 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobra-wo3tg oh my bad
@Antonocon
@Antonocon 2 жыл бұрын
All I ever hear on this laptop is that it's not great for anyone that needs a good performance but it's good for anyone looking for an entry level laptop. So is my previous macbook air from a few years ago. And so are all the other recent macbook airs. I'm going to stick with my old one, there seems nothing here to inspire me to upgrade. I hope they do better next year.
@jugaldesai3251
@jugaldesai3251 2 жыл бұрын
Everything depends on the requirement, I use a MacBook air M2 and I did not feel any heating issues till now. If your condition is to play games and edit high-end video you should choose many other options in the market so first understand your requirement for using the laptop.
@Aryonwilica218
@Aryonwilica218 2 жыл бұрын
So if I’m just starting off learning video editing and audio engineering and just want to learn the basics should I get the 512GB SSD 8 core model and should I add the Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to the laptop or just pay for it later on ?
@CineDesi
@CineDesi 2 жыл бұрын
How often you have your computer near water gives me anxiety. #macbookoxygen
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
My apologies. Someone also said something about it being always on the edge.
@RobertaMacklin
@RobertaMacklin 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated the distinction you made between the user case for the Air and the M1 Pro lineup. I think the MacBook Oxygen is the way to go. I look forward to watching your long term review.
@achilleaustin4477
@achilleaustin4477 2 жыл бұрын
Great seeing more and more Aussie KZbinrs, love your content mate keep it up 👍
@isaacbounds7577
@isaacbounds7577 2 жыл бұрын
I love the dark mode! one of the coolest features I've seen with a MacBook, I upgraded from a MacBook Pro I bought 7 years ago and let me tell you, its one of the best MacBooks I've ever had, if you wait several years between upgrading you'll see huge improvements!
@djcaru1
@djcaru1 Жыл бұрын
MacBook oxygen! Good video with an on-point message.
@omaryehia2
@omaryehia2 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew, i just ordered the Macbook Oxygen M2 arriving tomorrow, i'm super excited as i'm coming from a crappy 300 usd leonovo ideapad model 2013
@yenk82
@yenk82 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review, I'm going to watch other videos from your channel
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@BugGenerat0r
@BugGenerat0r Жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned that the SSD is slower only on the base (256GB) model. Major omission. All the other sizes use 2 chips instead of 1.
@tae_haz1301
@tae_haz1301 2 жыл бұрын
great review jus got my m2 air about a week ago and I love it.
@lambertj.2892
@lambertj.2892 2 жыл бұрын
I got the base M2 Air and it's fantastic. Fastest computer I've ever used. Just get one.
@bill3117
@bill3117 2 жыл бұрын
Your advice makes a lot of sense! Thank you!
@marcuslafferty7619
@marcuslafferty7619 2 жыл бұрын
There must be more people out there wondering... For the non-pro power user, will it cope just fine for photo and video editing as a hobby, occasionally doing things like... - Final Cut Pro, Lightroom, editing/exporting RAW images in RAW/iPhone cinematic mode, 4k GoPro and drone shots, and eventually KZbin uploads. Or is it better to pay £300 extra for the 14" M1 Pro for the bigger SSD, better GPU, Pro-motion, HDR etc etc. Essentially my question is... Will pairing a (16/256gb) M2 MBA with a (2 TB) Sandisk Extreme SSD, cope just fine for these non-all day everyday tasks, or is it likely to still throttle, lag, drop frames, and best to just get the 14" M1 MBP?
@lindseyatkinson1879
@lindseyatkinson1879 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering the same thing. Great question! 😃
@sharonb.9128
@sharonb.9128 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You breathe oxygen into the stale typical MacBook discussion.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Touche haha! 👏🏻
@sharonb.9128
@sharonb.9128 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewEthanZeng ❤️
@Solstice42
@Solstice42 2 жыл бұрын
Good review overall - glad to see you included other use cases - besides video creators - students, business travelers and writers ... where it seems like speed is not critical - but form-factor-size, weight and battery life is critical
@nicolasb.henry294
@nicolasb.henry294 9 ай бұрын
I use a base M2 MBA and it is a real powerhouse for my work flow. Photo editing, light retouche, organising my work and writing new project. It is the perfect laptop to work on train or on cafés when you are on the go. Of course if you using this machine to edit 8 k videos while having 50 tabs open and creating a 3d project in the meantime this machine will die. This is a MacBook Air not a Pro. For the rest in real life using the "slow SSD" is definitely not an issue.
@Mad.Maxx.77
@Mad.Maxx.77 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, mate! Got my new M2 MacBook Air 16GB/512GB a week early this past Saturday and thought I'd post my thoughts. It's a beautiful machine with build quality that's superior to any Dell XPS laptops I've owned. Space Grey looks good. I wanted Midnight but the scratch and fingerprint issues chased me away. I don't record/edit video so it runs smooth/cool with Office 2021 apps and streaming video. Feels strange using a laptop after over a year with my M1 iPad Pro 12.9" and magic keyboard. I keep reaching for the Air's screen to touch an icon or scroll through a website. Had no idea how acclimated I became with the iPad's touch screen. Same with the iPad’s Face ID vs. Touch ID on the Air. Face ID easily wins that battle. If I made the decision today, I prefer my iPad + magic keyboard setup. Never thought I'd be so comfortable with a tablet. I still expect to keep my Air after getting comfortable with the advantages of a true laptop. Based on my 4 days of use, Apple is gonna sell a ton of these new Airs.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Great write up and thanks for sharing!
@Mad.Maxx.77
@Mad.Maxx.77 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewEthanZeng Thanks, man! Glad to help!!
@TheOriginalJohnDoe
@TheOriginalJohnDoe 2 жыл бұрын
As a data scientist, I've made the exact same choice. After a ton of research and bechmark checking, I think that M2 MBA 16G/512G and any non-midnight color will give you the best bang for your buck. I hate the fingerprints issue and 8GB memory is not engough for me these days, so I need at least 16G memory, and 256G is not enough as well, so upgrading to 512G as well. MBA preferably, as the MBP is basically with the fan and benchmark say that MBA is as good as MBP, so MBA would be the best option I'd say.
@trollingextreme
@trollingextreme 2 жыл бұрын
This comment reads as if it had been written by AI
@richiezubiri3385
@richiezubiri3385 2 жыл бұрын
@@trollingextreme His name is John Doe
@midlife_minimalist
@midlife_minimalist 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered midnight but debated changing to Starlight due to fingerprints. But I don’t like the black keys against starlight and figured that is what I will look at the most. After watching a lot of videos I went with 256 and 16mb RAM. RAM upgrade is never a bad idea. My 2015 IMac has 8mb
@garymofo2
@garymofo2 2 жыл бұрын
nice 16mb
@Gorilla_warfare
@Gorilla_warfare 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’m the same with dark keys on light Mac. Little things drive me crazy
@DD1TRAN
@DD1TRAN 2 жыл бұрын
that macbook oxygen mode really a life changer
@russianvoodoo
@russianvoodoo Жыл бұрын
Basically nobody will ever notice ssd speed anyways. After having this laptop for 3 months I can I say that the biggest downsides of this laptops are mushy keyboard (compared to modern/previous pro models), finger prints, brightness points are way too big (so I have to use options shift for gradual selection). Other then that - best MacBook I owned since mbp pro late 2013. Thin, light, great battery, finally a screen enough for almost anything.
@mdarks4117
@mdarks4117 2 жыл бұрын
The midnight colour is nice. The in store models show extreme wear & scratches in & around the ports (especially mag safe). How’s the paint been for u around the ports?
@sebastien7758
@sebastien7758 9 ай бұрын
I ordered mine today ive always wanted a mac i find that allot of people complain about products this opinion varys for different people i will test mine when i get it its not the end of the world that the ssd is not fast enough
@mrduck4623
@mrduck4623 Жыл бұрын
bruh I forgot to use MacBook oxygen is my machine done for??!!
@racheltgal
@racheltgal 18 күн бұрын
just purchased one love it so fare coming from my 14 year old Mac Book Pro
@hpd_hero
@hpd_hero 2 жыл бұрын
Something to not forget when comparing Air and Pro is that the Air only has 60 hz display, which makes for a pretty non-fluid experience. In my case I’m used to 100 + hz and honestly this is the dealbreaker for me when it comes to choosing.
@mileshawkins6225
@mileshawkins6225 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re just using it for school and stuff though you don’t need the 120hz haha, it’s nice.. but just drains the battery faster
@richiezubiri3385
@richiezubiri3385 2 жыл бұрын
Will connecting it to an external display with 100+ hz do it? I have a friend with m1 MBA and a 144 hz monitor and he was able to play Dota 2 with 144 fps
@Henningberlin94
@Henningberlin94 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I have a 160 Hz Gaming monitor and the iPhone 14 Pro Max and I have no issue at all with the 60 Hz on the Macbook Air M2.
@Henningberlin94
@Henningberlin94 2 жыл бұрын
@@mileshawkins6225 honestly not sure about that, since it´s ProMotion aka dynamically adjusting between 1-120 Hz on the iPhone 14 Pros for example, so it could potentially even safe battery, dependend on the use-case.
@shinehkim98
@shinehkim98 2 жыл бұрын
macbook oxygen :) thank you for the review! i just bought this laptop for school after my macbook air 2015 broke and enjoyed watching how you broke the different parts of the apple M2 macbook air!
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@IAmKenArts
@IAmKenArts 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is the first video that I have seen where the fingerprints are really shown. It’s bad. I bought it in space grey and am happy with it.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
I should start placing OCD trigger warnings on midnight color reviews
@Fernando_1903
@Fernando_1903 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the base version of the macbook air m2, with same days of use is almost perfect for my use. I am student and got it by almost $1000 with taxes with the apple student discount. 8 gb of ram is not garbish for normal users and the ssd have a good spend for normal users, i am not a video editor
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, monitor your disk use during a normal days work and you will see that it is mainly random read and writes, and the M2 256GB SSD is faster than the M1 in that task. For those buying the base model for the workflow it is targeted at, then it is a great upgrade over the M1 and def the way to go if you can afford it.
@Fernando_1903
@Fernando_1903 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyH_England the ssd can be slower than the m1 but is much faster than the one on the notebook I used before. I am going to use the base version and if I notice that I have problems with RAM or SSD I would get one version upgrade or maybe one 14” m1 pro on the next time I go to US
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fernando_1903 Yes, and despite the negativity, as fast or faster than many direct competitors. e.g. the Galaxy Book 2 Pro, that has a 512GB SSD that on battery only reaches 1Gb/s. Perspective is missing in many reviews and Apple is held to a higher standard than, say Samsung, where are the tests for the Galaxy Book 2 Pro?
@Fernando_1903
@Fernando_1903 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyH_England the ssd speed is not a problem for most people. I thought to upgrade RAM instead SSD because is probably that I won’t notice the difference of speed. But when I saw the shipping time, the only option that I arrive in time was the base. Many youtubers are not helping people to decide correctly, I they are trying to make people to spend much more money and don’t notice the difference
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fernando_1903 Yeah, base model is fine for me and most people.
@danielleamber7353
@danielleamber7353 2 жыл бұрын
The Macbook Oxygen Midnight looks so neat until it isn't. I still would have gotten it had I not just bought my Air M1 a few months back.
@jowinkoh2350
@jowinkoh2350 2 жыл бұрын
M2 or M1 Pro for programmer / developer ?
@adid.5585
@adid.5585 2 жыл бұрын
If I'd get this MacBook, I'd definitely get the Midnight color. This is something not seen before on a MacBook and it would definitely look awesome. I wonder if the M2 MacBook Pros will also be available in this color when they come out.
@Danielbignuts
@Danielbignuts 2 жыл бұрын
My only issue with the midnight and starlight are they are incredibly prone to scratches which may impact resale in a few years
@schlingelgen
@schlingelgen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danielbignuts why is starlight prone to scratches? I only ever heard this about the midnight color which seemed plausible because its much darker than the underlying aluminum. Whith starlight I cant exactly image why its vulnerable to the same issue (?)
@Danielbignuts
@Danielbignuts 2 жыл бұрын
@@schlingelgen Because it is still a coating over the top of the frame, no where near as bad as midnight but still don't know how it will hold up long-term. At least with space grey the colour has been around for a while so we have been able to see the (minimal) scratching and wear over time
@schlingelgen
@schlingelgen 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Danielbignuts When I went to take a first look at the starlight Macs, I thought they weren't set up yet because they are very similar to the silver Macs - I think it won't be visible if you dont take a detailed look
@davs2628
@davs2628 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Midnight Mac is one of the best looking macs out there. I had ordered base M2 Air in Midnight and after seeing the review of chipping, i edited the order to Space Grey. Apple is taking a month to deliver the MBA :(
@redz2984
@redz2984 2 жыл бұрын
It'll be worth it man trust me space gray is beautiful on this laptop
@davs2628
@davs2628 2 жыл бұрын
@@redz2984 Yea man! Waiting for it to be delivered. Will come in mid August
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@MrEliteSoap
@MrEliteSoap 2 жыл бұрын
Got it yesterday... hope it wasnt a mistake after seeing this. Should be def. cheaper
@Messivert_
@Messivert_ Жыл бұрын
8:00 Not even limited ports, limited bandwidth, only one monitor can attach unless you pay $300+ for a DisplayLink docking station.
@edsbloggingcom
@edsbloggingcom 2 жыл бұрын
In battery settings check the low power mode. Result? No performance degradation noticed for normal regular work. It keeps going for ages!
@MrLocsei
@MrLocsei 2 жыл бұрын
the Hamilton Pilot Pioneer Mechanical is my favourite watch :)
@Mangold108
@Mangold108 2 жыл бұрын
because of these problem I think the 512SSD upgrade SHOULD cost 100$ instead of 200! period.
@hansmoran1219
@hansmoran1219 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's apple lol. Can't expect too much from them
@gustavoortega2895
@gustavoortega2895 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people compare it to a MBP? They are two different products for different segments. If you get an MBA and spec it out to 2000 dollars, just get a Pro. If you're upgrading all that, you're NOT the segment for the air.
@brianrios9701
@brianrios9701 Жыл бұрын
I went with macbook pro 13 inch because right off the bat you get 2 more gpu cores a cooling fan and the 67W power adapter... any fans of the touch bar will love the 13 inch pro. For anyone that already has a desktop and doesn't want to spend too much and still have a powerful laptop m2 13 inch macbook pro is definitely the way to go.
@Uuuuyyyyuuu
@Uuuuyyyyuuu Жыл бұрын
Unless you are sensitive to PWM flickering rates. The MacBook Pro 13 uses PWM, as does the MacBook pros and the M1 MacBook Air. For some reason, Apple does not use PWM in the M2 MacBook Air- which is the first apple screen I’ve used that does not cause eye strain/headaches like the MacBook Pro 14 m1 I had to return. Those that are sensitive to fluorescent light flickering will know what I am talking about here. Just wanted to share that side info, as the screen is what I am actually staring at all day.
@RyanHaarlemmer
@RyanHaarlemmer Жыл бұрын
Very like how you present everything. Good info also. One thing, don’t you think you are comparing pears with apples when comparing pro against air models?
@Vaptomwen
@Vaptomwen 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic looks, love the portability but 14 m1 pro on sale is only Au$500 more for same ram & ssd . Otherwise the air would be a clear cut win.
@lunariz97
@lunariz97 2 жыл бұрын
It's either you buy it at the $1499 model for "entry level" laptop using it for basic stuff; or you really value the portability that the Air brings over 14 inch MacBook Pro but still don't really push for sustained workload. If you're looking for the best value it's definitely the base model M1 Air, if you're looking for performance you should go to the 14 inch Pro even at the base model.
@Breadfan00
@Breadfan00 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany the difference between the two is only 90 bucks… But I really don’t want the thick and heavy pro…
@ohmyv3gatron
@ohmyv3gatron 2 жыл бұрын
The midnight color is epic. I think the slight blue will look cool with the black camo skin so you just have hints of the blue but it’s mostly covered.
@Shaggy12321
@Shaggy12321 2 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why people get 256GB computers? with the OS, web browsers, a few movies, documents, and screenshots and its already full. I got my 16" MBP with M1 Pro last year and even 512 wouldn't cut it for me so went 1TB
@notskromps8869
@notskromps8869 2 жыл бұрын
Because 256GB is cheaper
@Shaggy12321
@Shaggy12321 2 жыл бұрын
@@notskromps8869 doesn't matter how cheap it is if it's unusable
@notskromps8869
@notskromps8869 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shaggy12321 I wouldn’t say it’s unusable. Tbh just want it for editing and coding and my school work.
@nikhllogic1248
@nikhllogic1248 2 жыл бұрын
A very thoughtful review Andrew. M1 Air seems to be the best bang for buck laptop on the market and the one many would find most value in, particularly students I'd imagine. Now...to stop myself buying an M2 Air. MacBook Oxygen :)
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
The struggle of keeping our wallets in check as tech heads haha
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 2 жыл бұрын
The M2 Air is clearly a good bit better than the M1 in the correct config for your work, but the M1 is still fantastic and great value if you do not want the extra features the M2 Air has. Personally, I think the M2 Air is worth the extra $200 but you need 16GB in 2022 if you are doing any regular pro-work or heavy multitasking.
@bryanbuff
@bryanbuff 2 жыл бұрын
You’d think in 2022 they’d be able to add some sort of coating to mitigate the fingerprints. This thing looks a stainless steel fridge from 2005.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a great addition in the entire iPhone, iPad and Mac line. I had to laugh at the comparison. 😁
@go0glyguy672
@go0glyguy672 2 жыл бұрын
would you recomend 8/512 or 16/256 for a basic user
@panayiotispanayides2141
@panayiotispanayides2141 2 жыл бұрын
There was a great review about which of the two you should have if you could only afford one. The 16Gb came out on top for performance. As neither are upgradeable get the ram and you can always add an external SSD.
@SameedChowdhury
@SameedChowdhury 2 жыл бұрын
16gb of ram is better. The SSD speed doesn't matter for a basic user, but 8gb is slow and won't last as long.
@BimblyPlays
@BimblyPlays 26 күн бұрын
I have this exact model and I don’t do much on it (except play a bit of Minecraft and draw) and I love it. I don’t need a fast SSD (coming from a windows laptop with an i3 7th gen)
@DavidJeffreyOConnor
@DavidJeffreyOConnor 2 жыл бұрын
The SSD speeds are only an issue on the 256gb model. The 512gb model and above use 2x SSD modules that allow for simultaneous R/W. Moral to the story, don't buy the base 256gb model.
@chriscasillas
@chriscasillas 2 жыл бұрын
I got the base model in midnight. Loving it so far! Plenty of power for my workflow. I am OCD about the fingerprints. Most of the time, my laptop is docked vertically at my desk, so I only handle it a couple times a week. I'm fine with wiping it down when I do. I also avoid touching the top...just don't look at the bottom! LOL.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Chris, enjoy your new MacBook in good health 🙂
@paulomunozartavia2282
@paulomunozartavia2282 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I have a question. Is the Midnight color more like black or like blue? I don’t know if I should get either Midnight or Space Gray, as I like to keep literally all my Ecosystem as black or Dark gray
@chriscasillas
@chriscasillas 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulomunozartavia2282 It really depends on how the light hits it. It can look anywhere from very black, to dark blue, to even a little space grey. It’s a really good looking machine. But it is a fingerprint magnet!
@paulomunozartavia2282
@paulomunozartavia2282 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscasillas Thanks!! Do you think it would fit me given what I said, or better go safe with the Space Gray? (Mostly indoor use)
@chriscasillas
@chriscasillas 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulomunozartavia2282 I think it would fit. My desk setup is all light wood with dark equipment. It looks great here. But what looks good to one person might not look good to another. And the colors/lighting in your space might change that. If you can, I'd go look at it in person at an Apple store or Best Buy.
@trev8644
@trev8644 2 жыл бұрын
For once a sponsorship that actually makes sense and is tied in well to the review. I love CleanMyMac app myself lol
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. Just more prominently on this device. 😅
@likeobvs
@likeobvs 2 жыл бұрын
Midnight is sooo gorgeous!!! I hope they bring this color to the MacBook Pro!
@Zoydotheman
@Zoydotheman 6 ай бұрын
I'm probably gonna get the m2 macbook air because I just do school work, watch videos and keep a lot of tabs open from microsoft edge.
@386vwade
@386vwade Ай бұрын
Does the updated MacBook Air M2 16gb 2024 base model still suffer with the slower read and write speeds????? Thanks
@yeyeyeyyeeyyye
@yeyeyeyyeeyyye 14 күн бұрын
Honestly its not noticeable when using dw about it
@mmontiii1850
@mmontiii1850 2 жыл бұрын
Which of these two is better for a university use (take notes, watching videos, using excel and other stuff)??: -MBA with 512 of SSD and 8gb of RAM - MBA with 256 gb of SSD (with the storage issue) and 16 Gb of RAM Considering that I would like to keep this MacBook for at least 5-6 years
@prusco6447
@prusco6447 2 жыл бұрын
Go with the 256gb with 16Gb RAM for sure, you won't see the difference
@jinitjain
@jinitjain 2 жыл бұрын
I bought Space Grey because Midnight is prone to scratches as well
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
So I've heard. I guess the scratching issue on the ports can happen on any part of the device if bumps happen.
@SaraLevins
@SaraLevins 2 жыл бұрын
Should i even bother upgrading from my M1 Air to the M2 Air or M2 pro?
@MaxBabilunga
@MaxBabilunga 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s slower but where will you notice it? Especially an average m2 user who uses browser and text editor
@moonpunk
@moonpunk 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but it feels like you are being a bit evasive with the facts on the SSD. The slow performance is only in relation to the base single NAND chip 256GB model, if you opt for any of the other configurations you get two NAND chips which then uses dual channels on the M2 chip and significantly increases performance. I'm confident that you know this, but you didn't mention it??!!
@patricaomas8750
@patricaomas8750 Жыл бұрын
It's a rectangle with rounded edges, beautiful?
@Hof79905
@Hof79905 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t enter a volkswagon in the Indy 500 as it will thermal throddle. Enter a race car.
@piemasta93
@piemasta93 2 жыл бұрын
why would we compare read and write speeds to a pro model. what are they compared to the M1?
@WanderingAroundAZ
@WanderingAroundAZ 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. I upgraded from the base M1 MacBook Air to the base M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14". Best Buy has it for $1599, so I felt it was worth the extra $ over the M2 MacBook Air since I wouldn't consider the 256GB model.
@AndrewEthanZeng
@AndrewEthanZeng 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my final verdict and follow up review after spending 3 months with the M2 Air as my main laptop, enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHnTnGCBiJuIg5o
@AdamBuker
@AdamBuker 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The slower SSD issue is only for the 256 GB option. Even at that, the slower SSD speed would really only impact use cases using applications that would eat a ton of SWAP memory. If you fall into such a use case, you're either upgrading from the base model anyway or more likely you'll need a beefier computer like a 14" or 16" MacBook Pro. For general purpose computing (web, email, productivity, casual photo/video editing, casual gaming) it's a great machine and is exactly what it was designed for.
@corianderhater
@corianderhater 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! How does the m2 MBA perform when playing dota 2 for extended periods of time? Does it lag?
@lucie442
@lucie442 2 жыл бұрын
MacBook oxygen :) So Andrew, someone like me who has a ton of tabs open, uses a CD player to attach to it, uses a lot of KZbin, wants to edit videos for vlogging and also uses interactive learning softwares, creating digital media, etc would the MacBook Pro M1 (or M2) be better suited? And if so what specs would you recommend ?
@holdencaulfied7492
@holdencaulfied7492 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, are you saying the slower read/write isn't a problem if I get 512GB? Please be clear.
@SonnyNoles
@SonnyNoles 2 жыл бұрын
I'm upgrading from my old 2013 MBA to the M2 8GB/256SSD. I don't do any video editing/rendering or gaming on it. It's light photo editing 5% of the time and mostly a computer for web browsing for my wife. Should I be concerned about noticing any slowdown with the SSD? I would think going from a 1.3Ghz i5/4GB/128SSD for reference. Thx.
@hakan7346
@hakan7346 2 жыл бұрын
More looks than substance? Im currently using mid 2012 macbook air.
@notalexandra
@notalexandra 2 жыл бұрын
Is 8GB / 512GB a decent configuration or is it better to bump up to 16/512
@spunk88888
@spunk88888 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how people do it. I have owned the Midnight color model for months now, using it for hours every day, but I never got even remotely close to getting it as dirty as the video states it looks after only one day.
@butchgo8930
@butchgo8930 2 жыл бұрын
With nothing important more to say or see they consider fingerprints visible in dark color shells and bodies as dirt. As if other colors are devoid of smudges when the device is carried and opened by hand.
@prod.bytreez4563
@prod.bytreez4563 Жыл бұрын
Hey I purchased this two days ago ( the base model ) and was wondering would i be fine with just web browsing and emails and like movies for flights should i be good?
@cielo8842
@cielo8842 2 жыл бұрын
A gold mine of info
@kanamilife6520
@kanamilife6520 Жыл бұрын
what watch you rockin?
@tranceyy
@tranceyy 2 жыл бұрын
What is that spray you're using to wipe off the mac?
@queefbros11
@queefbros11 2 жыл бұрын
What camera are you using to film?
@norm977
@norm977 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@yop03
@yop03 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is the best value for money, no windows laptop exists where it has phenomenal battery life, thin design, outstanding performance and superb build quality for the price.
@creativinsanity
@creativinsanity 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it was worth the upgrade from the M1 Air. But also I keep seeing so may people complain about fingerprints and I'm like do people not buy cases anymore? They're starting to make clear cases for it now.
@75and1
@75and1 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is worth it. I just did it and I kept the M1 a few extra days to compare them side by side. I love the M2 so much more, form factor, display, sound, battery
@wiggonaut6935
@wiggonaut6935 2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth upgrading the ram and storage? MacBook oxygen
@wiggonaut6935
@wiggonaut6935 2 жыл бұрын
Hey how do I claim my prize
@wiggonaut6935
@wiggonaut6935 2 жыл бұрын
I sent the message
@ismaildasc1970
@ismaildasc1970 2 жыл бұрын
M2 Air 10Gpu 16/512 , m2 Air 10Gpu 24/256 ,M2 pro 16/512 , M2 pro 24/256 Which one do you think I should choose for software coding, why?
@GoldenIrishPaws
@GoldenIrishPaws 2 жыл бұрын
I've had this for a month and what the heck. What did I spend 2K on? This isn't worth it. I just needed to upgrade from an outdated Mac. I have gotten the color wheel a couple times now so I might send back and look at other options. I barely run anything and the battery is garbage.
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