M2 Mac - 8GB vs 16GB RAM - Avoid This Costly Mistake!

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Chris Tomshack

Chris Tomshack

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@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
How much RAM / SSD do you need in a Mac for your workload? Timestamps ⬇ Intro - 00:00 Swap Memory Usage- 0:26 Understanding RAM - 00:42 Understanding SSD - 01:07 Understanding Swap Memory Usage - 01:41 Recommendation - 02:52 Save Your Money - 03:28 Added Perspective - 03:38
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj Жыл бұрын
The time stamps are great, thank you!
@nicholas-s-timelines
@nicholas-s-timelines Жыл бұрын
64GB and 2TB if possible 🥲
@nicholas-s-timelines
@nicholas-s-timelines Жыл бұрын
As a software engineer, 64GB of ram and 1TB of SSD is the go to configuration for a work laptop from the companies I have worked for.
@nicholas-s-timelines
@nicholas-s-timelines Жыл бұрын
For my own Mac Studio, I got the 32GB, 512GB option because that's what was available at the time and a good enough config.
@javierneri81
@javierneri81 Жыл бұрын
For my web development workflow, the only time I feel the hit of 8GB of RAM is when I need to use Docker. But as you stated in your video, starting up dev servers and having my 10 - 20 Chrome tabs open, I have no problems so far. Although, I do use Neovim as my editor, so I don't think I would use as much RAM as with VS Code, but I think it should still be fine either way.
@haziqshah3188
@haziqshah3188 Жыл бұрын
No silly benchmarks, no blabber, just a chalkboard and straight to the point explanation. Great content! ❤
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Cheers
@editorkmanikhemmusicprod
@editorkmanikhemmusicprod Жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand benchmarks! Would be good to do a video on that . But this video is straight to the point
@marcoschirrmeister
@marcoschirrmeister Жыл бұрын
Straight to the point explanation?
@SomeRandomCanuck
@SomeRandomCanuck Жыл бұрын
Calling benchmarks silly is hilariously stupid.
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 Жыл бұрын
"No silly benchmarks" and "To the point explaination" is such a contradictory statement when talking about the literla performacne of a computer under different conditions
@stephenadams5223
@stephenadams5223 3 ай бұрын
No bs, no hyper animated tik tok personality, no unnecessary info; just strait to the point. What a gem of a video and creator.
@Cjx0r
@Cjx0r 2 ай бұрын
All bullshit*
@malcolmn.5222
@malcolmn.5222 18 күн бұрын
Should I get you some knee pads?
@bigdocus
@bigdocus Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by this advice to be honest. I just opened up activity monitor on my Mac with 16GB of ram. I'm using over 13GB. I'm nothing like a heavy user. I have evernote open, MS Word and Excel, a VOIP app, and 2 web browsers. I had 8GB before and it was really laggy. Since upgrading (to a 2017 Macbook pro...) I've had no problems. I'm not in the 5-10% of heavy users but I definitely need more than 8GB.
@nazift.3728
@nazift.3728 2 ай бұрын
you can't compare m1 macs with intel macs tho
@dx30-ln3blank7
@dx30-ln3blank7 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, be not surprised - He is buffoon making videos for other buffoons
@Justakatto
@Justakatto Ай бұрын
Yeah tbh this isn't good advice. It's a lot of generalizations, claims and "advice" back up by a whole lot of "trust me bro"
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky Ай бұрын
@@nazift.3728 yes you can.... The only reason why people say 8 gig is more snappier than Intel, is because of access time only, memory is directly onboard SoC... Access time does nothing to amount of physical memory limit you buy at purchase. 8 Gig is still and always going to be 8Gig,, regardless of how quick it 'feels'.
@hilldaron17
@hilldaron17 Ай бұрын
@@Justakattoyou talking about the video or this comment?
@jamUSA24
@jamUSA24 Жыл бұрын
As a former software engineer and Data Architect, I’m impressed by how clearly you were able to articulate the memory management and it’s impact on the I/O write/read performance. Great explanation and use of graphics.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joel! What are you doing these days?
@jamUSA24
@jamUSA24 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack I’m an Enterprise Information/Data Architect at a bank. I focus in compliance and governance systems.
@dfloper
@dfloper Жыл бұрын
@TheShogunOfHarlem kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqLFo3-ffL5neck This says the opposite.
@LoneSolo23
@LoneSolo23 Жыл бұрын
@@jamUSA24 Data architect sounds like some kind of Batman villain lol.
@jamUSA24
@jamUSA24 Жыл бұрын
@@LoneSolo23 we can be if required.
@mkaushikk
@mkaushikk 11 ай бұрын
These types of explanations and clarifications is what most people need, and not the benchmark comparisons - in order to make their decision. Love the way you explained the concept! 👍🏻
@christopher480
@christopher480 4 ай бұрын
we wouldnt need any explanation if apple stopped ripping ppl off on ram and storage upgrades........they could easily go back to making them removable.........or better yet just buy a framework laptop.
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky 2 ай бұрын
swap memory is good, but the video makes one big mistake... Talking about overwriting files, does not wear out an SSD alone... Garbage collection does (cleaning up)... although kept to a minimum to make sure its not unnecessarily worn out. In fact an SSD will do more (cleaning up) garbage collection than legit writing of data over its lifetime.. i reckon. This cleaning up is not factored into write cycles "how many you have left", You could say this cleaning up kept to a min. is not really a major factor and that's why its not added to the 1000 write cycles.,
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky 2 ай бұрын
You could also argue by not being benchmarks, so many also make the wrong choice in getting a mac too.. It goes both ways...
@fionngorilla
@fionngorilla Жыл бұрын
I bought a MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 13” both equipped with the M1 chip. Only difference is 8 GB ram on the MacBook Air and 16 GB of ram with the Pro. It makes a big difference! With every day tasks, I didn’t notice any differences. But exporting a video with Chrome in the background open and a lot of tabs, the video was hardly rendered. After 10 minutes it had like 5%. The moment I closed the Chrome app, the video rendered in about 60 second finished. that’s with the 8 GB on the MacBook Air M1. With the MacBook Pro 13” M1 and the 16 GB of ram, I never had any of those problems. It’s still fast, even with Chrome and Lightroom in the background opened. I regret that I didn’t spend the money for the 16GB.
@jpdemer5
@jpdemer5 21 күн бұрын
That's a good example of why Chrome sucks on the Mac. Just don't use it, and the Mac will perform much better.
@estherayewoh1077
@estherayewoh1077 7 күн бұрын
Can I buy the pro 13,from you
@errorfive
@errorfive Жыл бұрын
That is the best analogy I've ever seen for SSD wear and tear in my entire 10+ years as an IT professional. Kudos.
@tattooedpierre
@tattooedpierre Жыл бұрын
For Apple devices in particular, the most compelling reason I have to go with more RAM is the inability to change this later. As you say; external SSD is relatively cheap and easy to come by, so you can just buy more when needed. With RAM in the MacBook you're stuck with your initial choice, so I always go with the most I can.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Although, with seasonal discounts pushing the M1 MBA down to
@TranceFan05
@TranceFan05 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack I saw that 800 dollar deal and saw charts comparing the performance between the m1 and m2 base configurations and am now seriously considering the purchase of the m1.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
@@TranceFan05 The M1 chips outperform the M2 in several benchmark tests too. Max Tech have several videos on benchmark testing. Not only do I recommend the M1 models over the M2, I put my wallet where my mouth is and own both a base model M1 MBA and base model M1 MBP. If you want to support the channel, I linked the best prices available for new Macs in the description of the video 🤝
@TranceFan05
@TranceFan05 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack Hello chris, I know what you mean and its such a juicy deal. As a remote worker despite building my own gaming pc I find myself with a stronger desire to leave the house so i have been considering a laptop. My dad and I are the last android hold outs in the family but he is considering switching with that in mind I have been pricing a apple conversion. M1 base + 12 Mini is only like 1240 dollars from BB so its very tempting. I Think whats holding me back is the closed system apple keeps trying to expand every year xD. Like for instance the apple card or the recent ( 1 month agoish ) tech support calls I had to take with peopel whose apple tv box would only let them sign the new terms and Cs with another apple device ( now patched). They have always made me a little suspicious about switching over cause I know its a slippery slope. The environments functionality is supreme though. With that in mind im gonna hold out longer and see how I feel. I did however watch your top m2 acessories video and purchase the anker 747 with the affiliate link. Thanks for the concise and detailed videos. Comparison videos are always 100 times more useful than solo reviews. You have earned a non apple user sub :D
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
@@TranceFan05 Thanks for subscribing! Happy to hear you like the content. I'm interested to hear which model Mac you end up buying, so keep me in the loop!
@nikknence
@nikknence Жыл бұрын
Finally, a straightforward review without unnecessary fluff-straight to the point!
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife Жыл бұрын
The views don't reflect the quality of this video.Please hang in, you are doing a great job and I think you will become one of the top Apple channels. Thanks for the video!
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! I am focusing on quality over quantity content to deliver the most value with each video, so it is great to read compliments like this. Thanks
@waylonnicholson371
@waylonnicholson371 Жыл бұрын
Agreed on the sentiment of this comment! Great quality video. One thought for consideration: A lot of KZbin reviewers are quick to recommend the M1 or M2 MacBook Air models for the majority of users as they offer good value for the price (especially the M1). While I believe their intent is good, and they’re trying to save their viewers money, it’s often forgotten to mention that the vanilla M chips only support a single external monitor. I bring this up because I’ve had a number of people in my family/friend circle purchase an Air model and are disappointed when they can’t use a dual monitor setup while they WFH.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
@@waylonnicholson371 Thanks Wayne! Yes, that's one of the largest downsides to the MBA, IMO. I figured since so many other videos mention the single display compatibility that I wouldn't beat the same drum by mentioning it again. Although come to think of it, maybe it would have been a beneficial 10sec. add to the video. Thanks for the comment
@waylonnicholson371
@waylonnicholson371 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack Yeah man, not calling you out-I just typically have KZbin streaming while I work and the majority of reviewers that I see are quick to recommend the Air models, but forget to mention the display count issue. Thought I’d put my word in while you’re still relatively small and reading comments-and before you blow up and have too many comments to read through.
@anmol3457
@anmol3457 Жыл бұрын
I agree. With so many tech youtubers being excessive it's refreshing to see people who are realistic and do consider use cases and sensible spending instead of buying a 8tb/64gib M1 Max MacBook Pro in the name of some vague, poorly defined idea of 'future proofing'. Granted, the most popular creators don't explicitly recommend configs like this, but this is still what i consider an age of excess.
@RobotBoyRobb
@RobotBoyRobb Жыл бұрын
My dude… I know I’m late to the party here, but I gotta say that you absolutely killed it. You explain technology in such an elegant yet straight forward way. It’s like being asked to explain the Internet to a child or someone who knows nothing about how technology works. You seem to have taken the master class here in how you explain things. Now, I know how the Internet works. And I’m a programmer, infrastructure analyst and I always keep up to date on the latest technology trends. But I gotta say it’s sooo refreshing to watch a creator so eloquently describe technology in such a simple manner that is informative, but without assuming that your viewers aren’t tech-savvy or that they are. You explain things how they are. Man, I wrote a short story here but needless to say.. the view count doesn’t reflect the quality. Keep this up man. You’re gonna do big things! Your work here is evident of that.
@Kyle-sz7dj
@Kyle-sz7dj 3 ай бұрын
I agree, as someone new to the field as of a year or so ago I reallllly appreciate people that can concisely communicate things. He does exactly that.
@conorcurley6798
@conorcurley6798 11 ай бұрын
While I agree getting more RAM is a good idea to reduce swapping, which can, in theory, cause damage to the SSD, I think there's a couple of practical things to consider first. Before assuming the SSD is damaged due to read/write, I'd wipe the system and reinstall MacOS. Don't restore a Time Machine backup, clone your system onto an external drive and start from scratch. With your data being consistently written around RAM swaps, fragmentation comes into play too, especially if your SSD gets full. SSD failure due to NAND failure is quite rare, some SSDs with SLC NAND (1 bit per cell) can withstand up to 10,000 write cycles before failure. Apple uses TLC NAND (3 bits per cell) as far as I'm aware, which is a bit lower at around 3000 write cycles. Think about how often you write enough data to fill your SSD, then remove all of it and start again. You'd have to do that 3000 times to see damage. This equates to a total write over the lifetime of your Mac of 3 petabytes. Or it equates to rendering 1TB of video every day for 3000 days (which is still 10 years...). Great video though, haven't heard of SSD write damage being described like that before, it's a great analogy.
@yourmomsboyfriend3337
@yourmomsboyfriend3337 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, as a CS graduate this was the first time I’d ever heard of damaging your SSD as a consequence of swap memory. Usually, I’d just say you want to avoid using swap memory because is ungodly slow. Never really imagined damaging the SSD was an issue
@secretsocialservice
@secretsocialservice Жыл бұрын
This is great! I haven't seen a single KZbinr go over this. They all talk specs. This is much more important. I also don't typically comment anywhere, but I think this video deserves more recognition. And thank you for not making it a 20-30 Minute video and getting straight to the point.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
It's comments like this that are the greatest day boosters. Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment and happy to hear your thoughts!
@secretsocialservice
@secretsocialservice Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack Anytime! Looking forward to seeing more of your content.
@blaken091
@blaken091 Жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu for making this understandable for the 90-95% of us that are not editing massive files! Greatly appreciate the short and to the point explanation!
@chefTjay
@chefTjay 11 ай бұрын
Like fr broo😂
@98noir94
@98noir94 10 ай бұрын
Wow dude.. I’ve finally grasped the idea of ram and ssd much better now. I know all the comments say the same thing but this concept can save a lot of people money and time. Thanks ! Great content and a new sub
@Youba05
@Youba05 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s absolutely criminal from Apple to charge +$200 for 8gb of extra ram when ram prices have SIGNIFICANTLY dropped down (laptop 8gb ddr4 ram go for less than $25), they used to charge that in 2019, and they’re still charging the same amount.
@twystedhumour
@twystedhumour Жыл бұрын
I disagee. I think it's criminal to KEEP buying overpriced products when you don't like what the company is charging. Bottom line: they're not holding a gun to your head to buy.
@minigiant8998
@minigiant8998 Жыл бұрын
apple is a premium company. it's not the dollar store so dont expect low prices. their polishing cloth is $19 and it was backordered for weeks.
@gamerjamessss
@gamerjamessss Жыл бұрын
@@minigiant8998you say that like it's worth the price and many of the "dollar store" options aren't better and cheaper than what apple offers
@mrsamot4677
@mrsamot4677 Жыл бұрын
Is apple silicon unified memory?? And it’s apple?? Of course it’s gonna be expensive. This isn’t DDR4 bro.
@Youba05
@Youba05 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsamot4677 ah yes, like it’s made out of different components. It’s almost the same shit, and yes they should charge more for it, but they’re charging the same amount they did in 2019 even tho it’s like thrice as cheap to make? Smh.
@chrispoor2017
@chrispoor2017 Жыл бұрын
I have been in IT management for almost 30 years, and this is the best explanation for the difference between RAM and storage memory I have ever heard. Great job!
@JM_2019
@JM_2019 Жыл бұрын
Now finally even IT management can understand it. :)
@jameysummers1577
@jameysummers1577 3 ай бұрын
I know this video is a year old, but I refurbished an M2 MacBook Pro for my wife two year ago. She is a highschool teacher and she has been earning her doctorate online at night. She is ALWAYS behind that MacBook. 8GB seems to serve her well. Now, it is very fast DDR5 integrated into the CPU, so I'm sure it purges and fills quickly, but I'm surprised with her usage 8GB is enough.
@sergioyichiong7269
@sergioyichiong7269 Ай бұрын
Using a heavy app like office ..amazing
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj Жыл бұрын
Okay… this was the actual greatest explanation I’ve ever experienced regarding computers. It takes me so long to understand new concepts, let alone actually grasp it after 4 minutes. The online classroom was so supportive with my learning style. Seriously - This was wildly helpful. thank you so much!!!
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Hey, fancy seeing you here
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear though, thanks! Hahaha
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj
@ShannonTomshack-ho9oj Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack how’d I even get here, I’m lost
@robertbaratheon305
@robertbaratheon305 Жыл бұрын
A content creator that wholly explains their point fast and effectively without droning over minute details to reach the 10 minute mark? Instant subscribe.
@mikesmith4236
@mikesmith4236 Жыл бұрын
8 minute mark* but good point
@poojr1828
@poojr1828 Жыл бұрын
Shutup
@mikesmith4236
@mikesmith4236 Жыл бұрын
@@poojr1828 it’s an important note
@fabulously695
@fabulously695 Ай бұрын
I dont use my Mac for work, I only use it for browsing the internet, emails and the odd spreadsheet. I used your video as a guide and I can confidentntly say you helped me pick the wrong Mac model... I should have gone 16GB and now I just get warnings every few hours telling me to close apps. Perhaps it would be wiser to say, if you use your Mac more than your phone, get 16 gigs.
@EvansAdam100
@EvansAdam100 Жыл бұрын
How refreshing that a youtube stays in the real world and makes an honest recommendation like this!
@chriscasillas
@chriscasillas Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I've had the base model M2 Air since launch almost a year ago. That thing is lightning quick, even with 8GB of RAM. I typically have 5-6 apps open at a time. Including apps like Photoshop and audio editing software. The Air breezes through all of it. I've always said that the base model has plenty of horsepower for 90-95% of users out there as well. Your take on this topic is spot on.
@rafin8458
@rafin8458 Жыл бұрын
What about storage tho?
@chriscasillas
@chriscasillas Жыл бұрын
@@rafin8458 I’ve got 10+ years of documents and graphics from our church on it and it’s a little over half full. 256GB of storage is totally fine for the average user.
@priyankmehra532
@priyankmehra532 8 ай бұрын
How's your experience been? Is it good enough? Especially for video editing, does slower SSD impact performance in comparison to M1 Air ? Planning to buy a Macbook Air very soon. Need a Lil guidance
@priyankmehra532
@priyankmehra532 8 ай бұрын
How's your experience been? Is it good enough? Especially for video editing, does slower SSD impact performance in comparison to M1 Air ? Planning to buy a Macbook Air very soon. Need a Lil guidance
@jaredwhitneymedia
@jaredwhitneymedia 3 күн бұрын
Brilliantly simple explainer. Bravo. Just bought a new Mac for the first time in ~7 years. 14" MacBook Pro, 16GB RAM, 512GB space. M4 chip. Ready to edit 4K video on it. External HDs all the way.
@stephenvalente3296
@stephenvalente3296 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for the closed architecture preventing user upgrades in terms of both memory and storage, think a lot of people would be happier to start off with a lower spec model. However, given Apple Silicon is locked upon production, I’d still go for a 16Gb/512Gb option with any discounts when purchasing. If Apple hadn’t nobbled the 256Gb SSD, staying external for additional storage would have been easier to opt for.
@DaveDFX
@DaveDFX 10 ай бұрын
You can solve this problem by selling the old laptop and upgrading :) I got 8Gb MacBook Air and basic photoshop hit swap already. System and graphics uses around 3 to 4Gb leaving apps with very little. Back in the days we used to swap to HDD and old school users know the impact of swap.
@oakacc952
@oakacc952 Жыл бұрын
Video ends abruptly (which is weird) but the way you've explained everything deserves a shoutout. Simple, objective and didactic! Congratulations! Apart from the end, your editing skills, lighting setup, sound quality, bgm choice (especially volume), screen composition and your thumbnails are also on point! I've seen a lot of "amateur" content on youtube (I mean no disrespect with the expression) and I'm really impressed with your video. Keep doing what you're doing!
@montavio
@montavio Жыл бұрын
Video was perfect but no ending 😂
@bidyo1365
@bidyo1365 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣@@montavio
@charleskra
@charleskra Жыл бұрын
He must have ran out of RAM! HA!
@masterchief1342
@masterchief1342 Жыл бұрын
wow. its has been FOREVER since ive seen the popcorn time logo..your profile picture
@GPDF
@GPDF Жыл бұрын
​@@charleskra😂😂😂😂😂
@woodznim
@woodznim 5 ай бұрын
i’m a marketing student and i got the 8gb ram and 256gb mba m1 and trust me - i could barely used half of my storage. i mostly just research articles and make essays and other document types of assignments and i never really had a problem. and now, i’ve been using my mba m1 for like 3 years now and it’s still fast as ever. storage is barely full. don’t let these other creators tell you that you’d need 16gb even when you’re just an avaerage students who just really do research and make essays.
@Rood67
@Rood67 Жыл бұрын
Hands-down, one of the best videos on a computer, memory, drive storage that I have ever seen! This is useful for both Mac users and PC users. As another comment states, no benchmarks, no complex explanation, just common sense was real world examples. Perfection!
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Love to read comments like this! Thanks 🤝
@miketech1024
@miketech1024 Жыл бұрын
As a senior-level systems engineer, I’d like to give my ringing endorsement of this information’s technical soundness. Fantastic video all around! Definitely earned my subscription. This channel is going places…
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support and comment, Mike! 🤝
@3_pancakes767
@3_pancakes767 Жыл бұрын
Maybe youtube is missing some super entry level videos that dumb down what computer components do instead of just assuming everyone knows how they work.
@fz6657
@fz6657 13 күн бұрын
I am not gonna lie, this video cleared my mind giving me literally what I need to know before choosing the ram. Thank u g, the best video among all in YT for macbook
@robcor80
@robcor80 Жыл бұрын
Recently upgraded my 2011 iMac to a M2 mac mini, ended up going with the 16gb ram. Though I’m not a super heavy user or a content creator I do like editing photos, have a bunch of apps open, and occasionally do a little video editing, also been thinking about teaching myself how to code, so I feel like 16 was good fit for me. Nice job Chris explains ram 👍🏽
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you liked the explanation! How are you liking the new M2 mini?
@robcor80
@robcor80 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack enjoying it man, it's been super fast so far. Though I'm used to the iMac already having a camera, using my iPhone as a camera been pretty good so far.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
@@robcor80 no webcam must be weird to get used to! Are you using one of the monitor mounts for the iPhone? I sent one to a friend and they love it
@robcor80
@robcor80 Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack you know what I totally forgot about those mounts, I've just been using my tablet/phone stand, it gets the job done and I don't mind the camera off to the side a little.
@Burps___
@Burps___ Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, I was in your same shoes but, despite already owning M1 Macbook Pro (16 GB RAM), I bought my M2 Mac Mini with 8 GB and gulped big hoping it’d be fine since, when I use my Macbook Pro my system often uses 12+ GB of RAM…I’m a 3-browser, 40 tabs each plus apps running guy. Lo and behold, the 8 GB Mac Mini works without a hitch! Can’t tell any difference at all…no lag, no beach balls. This supports Chris’s suggestion in the video. I sort of laugh when every other KZbinr says “you’ll want 16 GB to future-proof your machine”…they don’t seem to get that the $200 RAM upgrade is 40% the cost of a brand new Mac Mini…in the “future” I’ll just buy a new Mac Mini with the money I saved in RAM 😂
@shannenmaligad4871
@shannenmaligad4871 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the simplified explanation for the SSD and RAM. These are the explanation that most of the tech vloggers miss since they focus more on the appearance of the macbooks.
@belgradeboy1977
@belgradeboy1977 9 ай бұрын
I ordered mac mini m2 that will be exclusively used for music production (Cubase). Upgraded RAM to 16gb but left 256ssd. For about 110USD I got ssd enclosure and 2tb ssd. Look for Acasis enclosure with 40GBps rating. It is Thunderbolt 3 compatible. SSD is Crucial P3 pro. It was the cheapest option.
@eliodecolli
@eliodecolli Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for this! First thing first, it’s straight to the point and concise, no bullshit hyping and stuff, and more importantly it’s pretty much the only video that actually describes the problem at hand and gives a perfectly reasonable solution that I’ve seen so far. Keep it up.
@kutasimusic
@kutasimusic Жыл бұрын
I never thought Ryan Gosling has a YT channel about Macbooks... WOW 🤩
@jpangmar
@jpangmar 10 ай бұрын
There is absolute no explanation to why Apple still selling 8gb RAM laptos for almost 2K, other then greed, absolutely ridiculous practice.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@adamrevello3241
@adamrevello3241 Жыл бұрын
I like how you actually explain the concepts that tech reviewers throw out. Also first time I've seen the chalk board analogy to explain the potential pitfalls of swap memory on SSD. nice work
@skjoldgames
@skjoldgames Жыл бұрын
Agreed, you can always find storage work arounds, like network storage or external drives, but you can't upgrade your RAM, and when you need it, you're really gonna need it.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@thekittyspy
@thekittyspy Жыл бұрын
Interesting video and great explanation but I think a good suggestion for the future in terms of RAM amount that you need is really to mention how many tabs you run on average either in Safari or other browser. If you run 30+ tabs in Safari on 8GB of ram you tend to start hitting swap pretty heavily, especially if you have 2-3 KZbin tabs open at the same time too.
@len5499
@len5499 10 ай бұрын
When I hear about someone with 30+ tabs open, it makes me think there’s a mismatch between their habits and their expectations. At work, I use 3 monitors but keep my applications to a minimum. If someone chooses to have a lot of tabs open, especially with videos, they should anticipate that it’ll demand a lot of resources. It’s not just about needing more RAM. It’s about understanding how our choices impact our tech’s performance. While everyone works differently, being mindful of how our habits affect what we expect from our devices can save us a lot of frustration.
@GamingPIPI
@GamingPIPI 10 ай бұрын
same, especially if you use chrome the RAM will get crazy lmao. And I use soooo many tabs when writing a thesis
@EnzoPersson-r3g
@EnzoPersson-r3g 9 ай бұрын
I have 5 tabs open, and it's struggling to even write this comment (15" base model m2). It actually takes about 8 second for my text to display. Crazy.
@GamingPIPI
@GamingPIPI 9 ай бұрын
@@EnzoPersson-r3g that’s really weird. Is something wrong maybe? I have never heard people reporting those issues. I chose for 16gb ☺️
@GamingPIPI
@GamingPIPI 9 ай бұрын
@@EnzoPersson-r3g my ram is always at a minimum of 8-9gb in use but that’s because it uses more if the capacity is there 😅. Yours should optimise itself for 8gb setup
@Grzeroli1
@Grzeroli1 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the 95% of the people, who have 65536 browser tabs open 😁
@TempleMadeSimple
@TempleMadeSimple 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to break it to you but that's not an accurate percentage.
@onouphrios
@onouphrios 8 ай бұрын
@@TempleMadeSimpleratio then 🤡
@driftone-ti6qd
@driftone-ti6qd 7 ай бұрын
Thanks kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHWqZZl_q7djfc0si=9F7m8ldTnlTsOm95
@rabbithole8592
@rabbithole8592 7 ай бұрын
​@@TempleMadeSimple 86% of percentages are made up on the spot
@Carmen_Lapadat
@Carmen_Lapadat 7 ай бұрын
Me
@micksmithson6724
@micksmithson6724 Жыл бұрын
Things to remember on the M2 MacBooks, 256GB is significantly slower than 512GB, (Single NAND Chip as opposed to Double Flash/NAND chip,) so if you only have 8GB RAM and are paging data to the Hard Drive this will make a difference. (The base Model M1s came with dual NAND/Flash on even the base models). Another thing to remember is if you cook your Apple silicon Mac's SSD you will not be able to boot,even from an external SSD. Now all SSDs have a wear levelling algorithm that tries to even out the wear to the SSD memory cells, (each one can only be written to a finite amount of times before it reverts to a read only state). So try to keep as much space free on the SSD as possible to help the wear levelling. I would avoid the T7 SSDs, they have hardly any RAM/Cache and in my experience when writing a lot of data to them, the pseudo SLC fills and they drop down to 45=50MBps , M@ drives have fallen significantly in price. look at rolling your own USB4/TB3/4 drive, this enclosure hots 2900MBps on my Mac Studio R/W Vs 700MBps on same device, (admittedly the "external display trick" speeds this up to 800MBps, + eshop.macsales.com/blog/74780-faster-external-drive-speed-m1-mac/ So my advice is if you can strecth to a 512GB SSD even if you have to have 8GB RAM, (I also have an M2 MBA 8GB/512GB and find it plenty fast enough)
@coldheartcloud
@coldheartcloud 10 ай бұрын
best shortest explanation ever without stupid talk around the problem - thank you!
@Christomshack
@Christomshack 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! Thanks for taking the time to comment 🤝🏼
@stevens6654
@stevens6654 Жыл бұрын
Nicely stated...but there's also the unsaid issue of future-proofing a computer. Getting a unit with a somewhat larger capacity is frequently a good idea, because disk space gets filled pretty quickly in the best of conditions. Increasing the RAM, too, allows you to address the ever-increasing load on your computer. It's like a kind of insurance.
@familymovie5799
@familymovie5799 11 ай бұрын
only that with all the past mac laptop issues weve seen, you cant even be sure that it will survive and so upgrading and future proofing means little if the machine is dead on arrival so to speak. In my case, my mbp 15 inch 16gigs 250ssd didnt last more than a year before it starte breaking down and become totally unusable, now it finally died and I need a new one, dont think ill fix it even if it may just be the battery and a fix for 200 dollars (cost me 2,5k). But that def left a deep traumatic experience and now i think going for the cheapest / best ratio money can get might be better than trying to think it will last 3-5 or more years. Even this guy here making the vid seemed to have changed his out 1,5 later because the ssd slowed down or died due to the swap memory which you have really no control over. In the past, you would have just swapped the ssd disk yourself, but apple made sure no one can do this alone. Cooperate greed like with all their latest machines, damn shame, they used to be a fine company or at least so it seemed!
@peterw9006
@peterw9006 10 ай бұрын
@familymovie5799 he swapped bc his demands increased, not bc the performance decreased
@praveenstomp2471
@praveenstomp2471 Жыл бұрын
I feel higher RAM config is must needed (for Professional & Smalll Business Users) as we deal with Multiple active web tabs along with other resource hungry apps like (Whatsapp, MS Office Suite, Mailbox, Notes / Drafts, Reminders, Zoom / Teams). So 16gb is really needed even if ur not an editor, but a professional who uses multiple software suites to monitor ur business activity.
@The_gear_review_channel
@The_gear_review_channel 5 ай бұрын
Well said man. I totally agree with this. My full time profession is as a media manager for various companies. I need exactly what you mentioned to operate on a daily basis successfully.
@Hakeem597
@Hakeem597 5 ай бұрын
This was EXTREMELY helpful....I just bought a Mac Air for my sister...she is a medical professional and was in need of a laptop.
@fabian98f
@fabian98f Жыл бұрын
Your are the first KZbinr I saw who recommend the base model for those people who just need a Macbook for basic tasks and don't want spend much money. Thanks for a clear and objective review and opinion! Great Video. New Subscriber! 😁
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Glad to hear you liked the video - Thanks for the comment
@MerosInTempo-qc6kt
@MerosInTempo-qc6kt 4 ай бұрын
@@Christomshack I would only need a Macbook Air to work on Microsoft Office software and once in a white edit little videos and audio. A 8gb ram is enough for that then?
@MerosInTempo-qc6kt
@MerosInTempo-qc6kt 4 ай бұрын
I would only need a Macbook Air to work on Microsoft Office software and once in a white edit little videos and audio. A 8gb ram is enough for that then?
@azndistiny
@azndistiny Жыл бұрын
can NOT be explained any simpler. Love this explanation and so easy to understand. Sharing this video for family and friends who are just about looking for their next apple upgrade
@chhaysophal4042
@chhaysophal4042 11 ай бұрын
No intro, no good bye, straight forward to the point, save my time a lot. Fallen for this man.
@sixxnote
@sixxnote Жыл бұрын
This is a refreshingly pragmatic approach to giving this type of information. Many YT reviewers fall over themselves on the numbers but it's good to hear clear advice from someone with real software experience. Subscribed!
@derektorres6260
@derektorres6260 Жыл бұрын
This video is a great quick look at this conundrum. I work at Costco and do my fair share of Apple product sales. I do tend to recommend upgrading the SSD over more ram. But I am also quick to point out that we have external SSDs for 1tb/$80, and when they’re on sale 2tb/$130 (normally $190).
@loganmedia1142
@loganmedia1142 Жыл бұрын
Are those external SSDs the same speed as the internal one?
@TheMilkman-k7p
@TheMilkman-k7p 10 ай бұрын
8 was good enough for me. Nothing but smiles using it.
@alexandredanelon
@alexandredanelon Жыл бұрын
I have a MacBook Air M1 base model with 8GB of ram and 256 of SSD. Actually I’m using it to development with heavy tools like Rider IDE and Docker desktop. With this softwares running and some safari tabs the memory pressure keeps on 60%. Really the MacOS memory management is great. I guess is best to me upgrade the SSD to 512 in next Mac.
@jutjub22
@jutjub22 Жыл бұрын
I have the same setup Rider and Docker, Chrome and few other apps - strangly seems fine, even with two user accounts. I had 16GB model also, and so far I do not notice difference.
@jasoncabreros
@jasoncabreros Жыл бұрын
I remember when the M1 Macbook Air was first released and everyone was pushing the 8GB RAM version saying that the swap memory would make up for it, it's fine. Fell for it and my RAM usage kept going into yellow and sometimes red territory. Upgraded soon after to a machine with 16GB of RAM.
@trparky
@trparky Жыл бұрын
Exactly. In a lot of cases, you can use more than 8 GBs of memory without even trying because programs today are such inefficient pieces of crap. Gone are the days when developers took the time to write good clean and efficient code. These days code is pushed out as fast as possible which results in God knows how many memory leaks and just plain inefficient code.
@AFatOcelot
@AFatOcelot Жыл бұрын
Lol you absolutely do NOT need more than 8GB of ram with an m2 processor unless you are rendering huge huge 4k videos
@trparky
@trparky Жыл бұрын
​@@AFatOcelot Bullsh*t. Load up 25 to 30 tabs in... pick your favorite web browser, and watch memory usage go through the roof. Add any other programs you want to run like an email client along with any other programs that are running in the background like perhaps an office suite be it Microsoft Office or Apple's own suite of office applications and you'll easily see memory usage go past 8 GBs of RAM. Not everyone does video editing, some of us want to multitask like a mad man with dual monitors.
@AFatOcelot
@AFatOcelot Жыл бұрын
@@trparky I just loaded 30-40 tabs of youtube videos and clicked play on all of them (took me a while) and they are all simultaneously playing different videos and ads with no lag. Although I did feel some slow down when installing WoW while watching a 4k youtube video
@trparky
@trparky Жыл бұрын
@@AFatOcelot Did you look at your RAM usage?
@abraramjad9816
@abraramjad9816 2 ай бұрын
Straight to point and not giving unnecessary run around is something I admire you for
@pjmverbruggen
@pjmverbruggen Жыл бұрын
What is additionally important to note is that the “M” series mac’s come with a System On a Chip, which includes also your GPU (graphics). The memory you have also is used by this graphics processor. I still am in agreement with your conclusion, but would like to add this
@omnirhythm
@omnirhythm Жыл бұрын
0:40 that's an uncomfortably small distance from the Mac to the PC screen :D
@ketchup7867
@ketchup7867 5 ай бұрын
It's a great way to explain it - though I would add that the SSD is slower than RAM in most, if not all cases.
@hilaryokoh
@hilaryokoh Жыл бұрын
It’s the tire added perspective for me 4:18 👏🏽
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear!
@CinemaNinja
@CinemaNinja Жыл бұрын
The internal drive on macs are worth every penny. They are literally 23x faster then most all external sdd except for a few that don’t get immediately thermal throttled because they have a massive heat sink. Most external ssds are 300mbps even this they say they go up to 2000 or whatever. The internal max drive runs at 7500mbps
@_NIck_B_
@_NIck_B_ Жыл бұрын
Great way of explaining!! I am looking into getting the new iMac and the whole ram thing been so frustrating to decide.. thank you a lot for helping!!
@SeemsLikeSomething
@SeemsLikeSomething Жыл бұрын
Great video, it’s a bit crazy to think hard drive speeds have gotten so fast that they are no longer a huge bottleneck to system speed. Ssd technology has really been a huge game changer.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more 🤝
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын
Hard drives and solid state drives are two completely different things.
@minigiant8998
@minigiant8998 Жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M ty captain obvious.
@kerrydaniels8460
@kerrydaniels8460 Жыл бұрын
They are still waaaaaay slower than RAM and shouldn't be seen as a decent alternative to RAM really. If you're using a lot of swap it is definitely detrimental to your overall system and especially on macs where once the internal SSD goes you're screwed. The majority of the system runs on RAM. If you were to run it on the SSD purely then it would not have the same performance. So essentially, no SSD have not caught up to RAM nor do modern SSD's prevent any issues in performance if you're using too much RAM. You still will take a performance hit or even crash. You may not mean it, but I want to make it clear that storage is no replacement for RAM. It's a last resort.
@SeemsLikeSomething
@SeemsLikeSomething Жыл бұрын
@@kerrydaniels8460 I definitely did not mean that, correct. I was just making a general remark about the shift from mechanical drives to ssd’s.
@osamagomaaa
@osamagomaaa Жыл бұрын
Great video But there is something missing here which is that in the new m2 chip the 256 only have one nan chip which dramatically affect the read and write speed rather than the 512 one which have 2 nan chip Thats a note that MUST be taken into consideration
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын
Many KZbinrs have shown those slower speeds are an important factor when moving large files to external drives, as many professionals and prosumers do, but are mostly irrelevant for the population that this video is targeted at. However, for the casual user that is concerned about R/W speeds the M1 MBA is a great choice.
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st Жыл бұрын
I think the more important missing info is the TWB, which tells you about how many write/rewrite is the limit on the SSD (it's about always 600x of the initial size, so each sector rewriteable 600x before start to degrade, so 256GB SSD has 150TB TWB, but 1TB SSD has 600TB TWB value, usable 4x longer before start to degrade)
@brechtxt8096
@brechtxt8096 Жыл бұрын
THIS!
@yasingunaydiin
@yasingunaydiin Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! Finally someone who understands the logic behind it. Thank you!
@Beetlejoocex3
@Beetlejoocex3 Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to learn more about “under the hood” parts when it comes to mobile devices, computers, laptops, etc and make a career change. And I have to say this is the best video I’ve come across in easily explaining things to me. Thank you so much! I’m definitely subscribing and will be watching and learning more!
@kerrydaniels8460
@kerrydaniels8460 Жыл бұрын
If you have the budget I recommend building your own PC. That and/or use a PC builder simulator. You can learn this stuff in a week or two. The harder stuff is on the software/logical end. Knowing the physical does help though.
@HenriqueAraujoCunha
@HenriqueAraujoCunha Жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my MBP 13” Core i7+16Gb over to a MBP 14” M2 Pro+32Gb. My normal usage is not heavy, but considering long term usability+speed I believe that more RAM is the best upgrade possible.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@stove.d
@stove.d Жыл бұрын
I doubt you would notice a difference between the M2 with 16GB vs 32GB. The upgrade from i7 to M2 is massive and, as explained in the video, has benefits beyond those two upgrades "on paper". Though if you don't plan on upgrading again in 5 years or so you won't regret the extra ram
@HenriqueAraujoCunha
@HenriqueAraujoCunha Жыл бұрын
@@stove.d I choose to upgrade and have more RAM (32Gb), as I usually keep my MacBook during around 5 years. So this helps keeping him performing very fast. Plus when a resell it, this will be a differentiator.
@JessTodtfeld
@JessTodtfeld Жыл бұрын
Number of USB ports are important too. If one decides to have an external drive and an external monitor, that’s it for ports. Most hubs force you down to USB 2.0.
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 Жыл бұрын
I own an entry-level M1 MBA and quite frankly, I’m shocked as to how much the swap memory is bottlenecking to performance of my system, to the point where switching between workspaces incurs very noticeable lag. I would have expected the low amount of RAM to have an effect on performance (as in, long-running tasks might need longer to run), but the fact that the user experience suffers this badly was kind of unexpected.
@Ddiakova
@Ddiakova Жыл бұрын
SAME!! And I am an average knowledge worker using only Brave with minimal amount of tabs open ... So I'm definitely NOT getting an 8GB RAM MBA next time... :(
@moderndilemmas_
@moderndilemmas_ Жыл бұрын
SAME! Swap memory doesn't work as well. This video would mislead a lot of people into a much worse experience - all for saving $200
@paradiseb5950
@paradiseb5950 Жыл бұрын
@@moderndilemmas_and yet the majority of people using the m1 8gb are happy with their laptop and don’t experience any lag. Wtf are you people doing with your airs?
@OShackHennessy
@OShackHennessy Жыл бұрын
@@paradiseb5950people are happy with it because most of them don’t know any different and think showing off that Apple logo at Starbucks is everything. Apple makes good products but 8GB on a modern day machine is not OK. I don’t care what magical SOC voodoo you think is going on in there. Yes it works for browsing one web page and maybe a word processing app but for that why do you need a laptop worth more than $200? I’ve witnessed the swap on these things with minimal applications. -typed on my $250 business refurb laptop with Linux and 32GB RAM. 😂
@std01077
@std01077 Жыл бұрын
another thing that nobody is mentioning is that the mac memory is shared between CPU and GPU - having 8GB means having a very limited memory for GPU tasks (
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 Жыл бұрын
AI models on Mac? 😊😅
@std01077
@std01077 Жыл бұрын
@@Teluric2 yes! apple did a great move with coreML and its neural engine/gpu’s- both stablediffusion and openai’s whisper can run on m1 devices for a while now making full use of the integrated GPU; slower than high-end nvidia gpu’s but we are talking about an ecosystem of consumer grade computers/phones that can already run ML tasks such as text transcribing, image segmentation, face recognition etc without needing to offload such task to some remote server.
@VeaceslavBARBARII
@VeaceslavBARBARII 11 ай бұрын
For a ui/ux designer who works with Figma and Affinity suit, I believe that the best combo is 16GB RAM + 1TB SSD (+ 1TB external SSD for backups).
@cakekomo
@cakekomo Жыл бұрын
I think you did a great job explaining what swap is and what it can be used for, but you definitely understated the potentially severe performance impact swap memory can have. Sure it’s not as bad as the HDD days, but you are still talking 100-200us compared to 50-150ns. Pretty big difference and definitely noticeable depending on what you are doing.
@kingsleygyekye8906
@kingsleygyekye8906 Жыл бұрын
My experience with the base M2 Air wasn't as pleasant though. It couldn't handle my full-stack development needs as well as I wanted. It would heat up so often causing it to lag. Sometimes when I had to present something I've worked on during a Google Meet call my laptop would be really slow and keep freezing. I eventually had no choice but to upgrade to the 14 inch M1 pro.
@LIRichard-cv6hs
@LIRichard-cv6hs Жыл бұрын
what's full steck develop
@MBmysterio
@MBmysterio Жыл бұрын
Did you find that the 14-inch M1 pro is comfortable to use? I heard several people complaining about (1)how much their wrists hurt after using it and (2) how sharp the edges felt.
@kingsleygyekye8906
@kingsleygyekye8906 Жыл бұрын
@@MBmysterio I personally haven't any such issue. It feels comfortable to use for me
@anlanther
@anlanther Жыл бұрын
Also a software engineer here! I recently won a M2 MacAir for free with base specs (8gb RAM, 250gb SSD) and because most of my friends are non-tech, the amount of them saying I should just 'upgrade' my current M1 MacAir (16gb RAM, 500gb SSD) just don't get my dilemma. Thanks for making this video so that they can better understand what I've been trying to get at
@RabianskiT
@RabianskiT Жыл бұрын
Oh man 😅 I would probably stick to M1 with 16GB of RAM. 8GB of RAM might become a BOTTLENECK sooner. It’s AWFUL that Apple only offers 8GB of RAM for brand new M3 MacBook PRO 😬
@Cldyefrog12
@Cldyefrog12 Жыл бұрын
Really great job of simplifying swap memory. Quick and to the point video. 👍
@jpadicecoffee9812
@jpadicecoffee9812 Жыл бұрын
Good job Chris in the memory and white board analogy. For myself, having 16GB RAM now is the most important component to prolong a laptop's life since everything else on a MAC\PC can't be upgraded later and is essential if you're doing the fun stuff like video edits, Adobe apps, and running IDEs. I keep my daily laptop for at least 4 years+.
@jesselam5867
@jesselam5867 Жыл бұрын
Yeah was gonna say, his points are true if you are happy to use it for a few years, but even if you look at his workflow for the 16GB model it looks as if he is hitting 80% memory pressure. Give it a few years and he will definitely have to upgrade even though the rest of the computer perfectly works. Even for the average user, in theory you can save money by upgrading the ram to 16GB so you can hold it in for longer as typically the ram is the first thing to get outdated.
@kerrydaniels8460
@kerrydaniels8460 Жыл бұрын
​@jesselam5867 You're right on the money. I got the 16GB/512GB and saved $400 dollars by letting someone else pay for the upgrade. I went refurbed and it was a brand new laptop really in mint condition. I wasn't gonna pay the insane markups, but also wasn't gonna buy without 16GB of RAM, because I knkw better. Additionally, technically the bigger SSD's will overwhelmingly tend to last longer to if bigger (which is why Apple should allow you to upgrade your own instead of beings dicks tbh...). TBW way higher. I plan on keeping mime 5+ years. I run VM's on it so I'm not messing sound with only 8GB.
@roberttamez5425
@roberttamez5425 11 ай бұрын
Bro… you just saved me a TON of money. I’ve been interested in getting into Software Development but being self taught and am currently looking for a MacBook. Was literally gonna buy a new MacBook ProM2 when I now know I most definitely DONT need it. Just found the base model MacBook Air M1 at my BestBuy on sale for like $670. Thanks again, you video was SUPER helpful and informative!
@surbhigupta503
@surbhigupta503 8 ай бұрын
is the base model enough for a software developer??
@bricegiraud2001
@bricegiraud2001 10 ай бұрын
Chris, I’m new to the channel : just wanted to tell you that you have a very original an unique way of teaching / speaking about a thematic.and transmitting your thoughts. Never give up what you’re doing, no doubt, you’ll become a BEAST. Keep going man, never let the nesayer push you down. To the way of reaching out 500K (yes five hundred) subscribers. Good skill !
@Christomshack
@Christomshack 10 ай бұрын
The best comment I've read in a long time. Cheers!
@nicholashall4625
@nicholashall4625 4 ай бұрын
Thanks you just confirmed my decision to go with 8GB of RAM and 256GB of SSD. I am a light user with simple requirements so the upgrades are really not needed
@Kyle-sz7dj
@Kyle-sz7dj 3 ай бұрын
The chalkboard analogy to describe ssds is the best I have ever heard, really useful stuff for people looking for a general understanding.
@cryptoinvestclub
@cryptoinvestclub Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, great point about the read and write
@sfk1066
@sfk1066 Жыл бұрын
I did the opposite of what you suggested and am perfectly happy with the decision. This was not a short term purchase as I anticipate having it for 5-8 years if not longer. Also the laptop is a portable mobile workstation for me and not my main desktop so an external drive for this device isn’t ideal if I want to be portable and minimal.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you made the best decision for your use-case! What model and config did you go with?
@Lemonade_Stand_
@Lemonade_Stand_ Жыл бұрын
You know that's a good point to keep in mind too, how long you intend to have it. Im planning on getting a m2 mba soon and intend to have it for atleast 5 years. I cant afford to be dropping $2k every year or two for the newest upgraded model like many mac users seem to do. So with that in mind maybe i should upgrade both after all.
@GamingPIPI
@GamingPIPI Жыл бұрын
@@Lemonade_Stand_ which one would you get?
@Lemonade_Stand_
@Lemonade_Stand_ Жыл бұрын
@@GamingPIPI Hi! I've been busy and havent bought mine yet but plan to do so this week or next but to answer your question i plan on upgrading both. So i will be getting 16gb memory and 512gb storage. I know the base model would likely be fine for my needs but i just dont want it to become obsolete and be too slow to run basic things in a few years time. If i can get 5 or 6 years out of it i will be happy, i just cant afford to replace it every 2 - 3 years.
@nickabcdefg5216
@nickabcdefg5216 Жыл бұрын
You have struck gold with this video template, brother. Give me the info, as fast as you can, as simply as you can. You can’t KZbin anything these days without watching 9 minutes of garbage for 1 minute of good information. You truly broke it down in an efficient and easy to understand way.
@edcipriani8873
@edcipriani8873 Жыл бұрын
Even though I gave up on Mac after a decade and went back to Windows, still glad to see there are at least some reviewers who don't recommend going overboard and over the top with spending the extra money. Buy what you need and what will easily work for you. Unfortunately too many reviews and opinions try to get people to spend more money by upgrading specs and features, throwing away money on computers, phones and other devices.
@mohammedfaizan3013
@mohammedfaizan3013 11 ай бұрын
Why did you move back to Windows?
@edcipriani8873
@edcipriani8873 11 ай бұрын
​@@mohammedfaizan3013 - I purchased a windows laptop in Nov 2020. Since about 2015, Apple has released Macbooks that have had more than their share of issues, including the butterfly keyboard conundrum. If you pay a premium amount of money for a laptop, you should have much better reliability. I felt that Apple was not delivering a better product for the premium price during those years. I will admit, that all changed, when Apple released the MacBooks with the M1 chips back in Nov 2020, the same month I bought the windows laptop. Since then it seems the reliability of the MacBook Air/Pro have really improved with the M-series chips. I had already made the decision to transition back to Windows, and I just didn't feel like waiting around for Apple to get their act together anymore. I went with an upscale 15.5" Asus Zenbook laptop, no regrets, no issues for the past 3 years. If I would have purchased an equivalent Macbook with the same size screen and specs, it would have been over 2K. Since then, Apple has released a 15" MacBook Air, for a much more reasonable price, Apple had to do this to make a much more reasonably priced laptop. I just don't feel the need to move back to a Macbook anymore. I admit I still use an iPad, and iPhone, but the combo of devices works for me.
@chunkyg6715
@chunkyg6715 Жыл бұрын
Depending on how you use your mac the money you save buying less RAM might result in wearing out your soldered down SSD, so might not be cheaper in the long run. Also when you factor in performance, non-volatile storage is slower than RAM and with many memory hungry applications open at the same time you end up with disk thrashing. Not as noticeable as using a HDD which were slower and prone to mechanical failure but not optimal either. Still one would need to write/erase at least 150TB (about 410GB a day for one year) to a 256GB SSD before it starts failing, so even the base model M2 MacBook Air would have a life expectancy of a several years for a typical/moderate user. When you factor in cost of upgrades, it might make sense to consider the next model up. However the M2 MacBook Air is limited in raw power and connectivity options such as number of supported external displays so a MacBook Pro with M2 Pro/Max is usually the go to option for professional use.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
Fantastically well put. Don't be alarmed if I reach out to you for a quick consult before the next tech-oriented video 😂🤝
@LadyJay114
@LadyJay114 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. I just bought a MacBook Air m2, basic. I bought a 256G flash drive for $25 instead of the TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS Apple charges for a 512G ssd.
@blank.9301
@blank.9301 3 ай бұрын
That’s what I thought. Couldn’t we just use usbs to offload the unnecessary storage? Even though you can’t obviously do that for ram if you just save your work on a usb you wouldn’t need as many applications open at a time right? Unless you’re a gamer or editing 30min plus 4K videos? I’ve heard photoshop will use almost 6gb of ram just to open it but would 8gb ram be enough for a 3-4minute 4K video to edit? (Without other apps running or heaps of tabs open on the background) thanks
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 11 ай бұрын
0:01 I am not in the market for a new Mac, but I am always in the market for a good laugh.
@dragogx9677
@dragogx9677 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ryan Gosling your awesome. always humble!
@TanyaRattanpal
@TanyaRattanpal 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining each element in a fashion that a non-tech individual can easily grasp. Such a big help!
@iwengrinewgrin
@iwengrinewgrin Жыл бұрын
One of the best comparison videos I've ever seen. Straight to the point and simple to understand. Thank you
@Etienne85
@Etienne85 Жыл бұрын
I'm part of the 5% to 10% :) My current wish is upgrading the memory instead of the SSD. Also as software engineer, I use a lot of thing opened at the same time, especially browser tabs. I often find myself writing 40-80GB per day on my M1 base model even when trying to be reasonable. One thing I would like to be sure of is that the 16GB will indeed decrease swapping, as some seems to say they still observed SSD usage with the 16GB.
@OShackHennessy
@OShackHennessy Жыл бұрын
I think 16/500 is the sweet spot
@Etienne85
@Etienne85 Жыл бұрын
@@OShackHennessy Ideally, but the price then is close to the M2 Pro 14" which is already 16Gb/500Gb by default.
@OShackHennessy
@OShackHennessy Жыл бұрын
@@Etienne85 I think Apple's upgrade scam is ridiculous. And to answer your question yes 16 GB will indeed decrease your swapping. What I do not know is if your use case would require more RAM than 16GB. I don't care what the fanboys say about how special apple's SOC is with magical RAM because 8GB is still not enough for anyone other than grandma. My wife has an M1 Mac mini with 16/1TB and I still notice some small amount of swap occurring. For the record she is a very basic user who does cloud based work with maybe 6 Safari tabs and a document scanner app and a couple PDF's. If you want to keep your Mac for 6 plus years then go big, if you plan to upgrade in 2-3 then buy whatever. I am a PC user and my laptop has 32GB ang desktop 64GB. Overkill yes but I don't want to stay up at night worrying about whether I bought the right system and for mere pennies I can feel secure. I so much wanted an M2 Air but refuse to spend a fortune getting it up to spec.
@Etienne85
@Etienne85 Жыл бұрын
​@@OShackHennessy Before moving to mac, I would never have chosen less than 16GB but in order to keep price attractive I chose M1 base model. I was surprised not noticing the 8GB RAM but was at the price of swap madness. So I chose to run any heavy server tasks on remote Linux which is very suitable for that purpose and keep the mac for browsing/deving which was the main reason I chose it in first place: easy to carry around and unmatched user experience (touchpad, screen, sound, autonomy). My last concern now is the screen which I need a bit bigger and also more RAM to further reduce swapping. Let's hope 15" with 16GB RAM will be the right fit
@heyitsjeffagain
@heyitsjeffagain 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! This is, far and away, one of the best explainer videos that’s ever been posted on KZbin. If you are not teaching in a classroom somewhere, it’s the world’s loss.
@nasastar
@nasastar Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I stumbled upon this video. Kudos to Chris for explaining things clearly and opening my eyes that no, I don't need a 16 gb RAM according to my use case. I really thought I needed a 16 RAM but thinking again, use case, I don't use my device for hardcore editing or rendering. Heck, I barely use Photoshop. I'm thankful this video gave me reassurance that yes, by purchasing the base model IS enough for what I need it to do. Thanks, Chris!
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 Жыл бұрын
You are getting scammed by being an apple user. My PC I built in 2016 has 16gigs of ram, currently worth $33 on amazon lol. More RAM is not required but makes the computer feel fast and smooth when you have more than one thing open. Yall are pathetic.
@Bluemudphoenix
@Bluemudphoenix Жыл бұрын
@@CRF250R1521thank you for enlightening us. We all bow down to you.
@ThePeanutWillEscape
@ThePeanutWillEscape 11 ай бұрын
@@CRF250R1521 Congrats. How well does that PC tower fit in a backpack?
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I still need to get the 64 GB version because I want to run my own LLMs and they use absolutely insane amounts of VRAM. I’m gonna be saving up forever 😢 The M chip’s unified RAM is the new killer feature of Macs now, in my opinion. Extremely underrated feature. Neural networks use stupid amounts of VRAM but since the M-series macs can use their system RAM as VRAM, you can actually run big neural networks on them. This is a really good tip though. Swap memory is more than enough for most people’s purposes.
@Aiceee7
@Aiceee7 6 ай бұрын
I was genuinely shocked when this video ended 😂Simple but informative explanations, perfect pacing, and to-the-point examples all stacked on a no-nonesense script made this video a joy to watch. We need more cretors like you on this platform. Kudos! 🙏🏻
@mutulix
@mutulix 10 ай бұрын
8gb of RAM as standard in 2024 is criminal regardless of the configuration/brand/optimization/etc.
@jonathan_kim
@jonathan_kim 2 ай бұрын
Recommendation at 2:53
@sdfsdf421df
@sdfsdf421df Жыл бұрын
This video just brings me good memories. I just finished college, was having my first job and bought my first computer. With 8GB of RAM. How that time flies. 15 years like snap of fingers.
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
“Don’t blink” is a simple saying that, whenever I think about it, I’m powerfully reminded of all the time that has passed, experiences and memories accrued, etc. since the last time I thought “Don’t blink”. 15 years comes and goes quickly… don’t blink!
@paralelmind
@paralelmind Жыл бұрын
Is 16gb enough for development though? I am on a 2015 MacBook pro with 16gb of ram and using about 1-3gb of swap. One simple docker container, phpstorm with 1-2 projects opened, safari with 3 tabs and chrome with 5-10 tabs
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
With the new Macs, absolutely.
@paralelmind
@paralelmind Жыл бұрын
@@Christomshack i personally still go for 32gb ram. I want to keep the machine for at least 5-8 years
@Christomshack
@Christomshack Жыл бұрын
@@paralelmind Smart choice then! I personally try to upgrade every ~2 years, so this base model M1 MBP will carry the torch of my workload for now
@111-Ti
@111-Ti Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most sophisticated videos on the 8 vs 16 ram topic. Very nicely explained and directly to the point 👌🏼😊 .. well done Chris 👏🏼 I’m now much more content and happy with my M1 MacBook Air after watching this video 😊
@neubauerjoseph
@neubauerjoseph Жыл бұрын
Why….I am on IT guy and worked with 3 m1 macs and they just been trouble for my clients. My clients been through 7 macs but they will only use macs the software doesn’t like macs. The system broke and the apple service center said it’s not fixable. The medical software doesn’t play nice with the apple soc. Macs just don’t have enough muscle to power against the windows on the market.
@chef9524
@chef9524 Жыл бұрын
@@neubauerjosephwhat are you talking about
@skankytrick
@skankytrick Жыл бұрын
Apple people. 😂
@theINQBS
@theINQBS Жыл бұрын
That problem does not lie with Mac. Rather it's the developer either not knowing how to properly code for OS X or not caring enough to FULLY develop their software. I've been running Macs almost exclusively since 1995 and I've run into this before and it has almost always been a developer/coding issue. Quickbooks was notorious for this very thing and when they finally did code it properly for Macs, they didn't offer all of the same features as they did for Windozzzze. Also software doesn't "BREAK" computers. It may freeze them up, but a simple erase and install of the system restores them to full functionality 100% of the time!@@neubauerjoseph
@theINQBS
@theINQBS Жыл бұрын
This video offers factually incorrect info, particularly on SSD's.
@DiLLZGFX
@DiLLZGFX 6 ай бұрын
I actually gave up with tech reviewers but you gave me hope again. NONE of them are thinking with cost in mind. They'll recommend anything as long as it's expensive
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