Apple River stabbing trial: Miu's friend of 20 years testifies

[@cail171]

Who all thinks this would have happened had ANY of these ppl acted civilly. NOT one of them did. Not one

[@mediaterrorists8969]

Agree, especially the 50 something year old that should have known better, but instead provoked, instigated and orchestrated the way the entire event unfolded

[@Felecia300]

If I were in his shoes I would have did the same thing he did. They treated him like an animal no worse. I would have been terrified in the water having all those people attacking me and laughing. They sounded like they came straight from the asylum

[@mediaterrorists8969]

​@therealz360z7did you not read my statement? It was not an argument it was facts

[@tsunamiiwinterz-px7oz]

When you hang out with the "usual suspects" its almost always a sure bet things are gonna go bad...

[@gatti7740]

Correct, not guilty!

[@80sWavrDude]

I think the thing that will damn him, regardless of whether it was self defense or not, is that he left the scene and tried to pretend that he didn't know what happened. I think he floated on down the river hoping that he could just leave it all behind and that it would go away.

[@TheSakufighter]

He tried to walk by the police as they were showing up. He didn’t say a thing because he like a lot of morons think they can maybe get away with it.

[@betsydiven2675]

Why would.he.not talk.to the kids when he came.in the area at the beginning

[@betsydiven2675]

He was scary in the begining

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

He knew it would be 15 people's words against his alone just like they're doing now. He didn't realize the mob had video taped their own crimes. Rittenhouse lawyer will smooth everything out, it's going really good so far and the defense hasn't even presented their side of the case.

[@runyourrace2finish910]

@@betsydiven2675he did talk to them. He told them he was looking for a phone. The drunk & stoned kids said that he said something else. So many comments on here by people sticking up for the kids but not listening to the testimony .

[@colleenfletcher2550]

This incompetent prosecutor should show Miu's defense in the video @2:31 Miu takes out HIS knife. @2:35 Miu is smiling just 10th of a second before he stabs 17 year old Isaac cutting though two ribs and cutting Isaac's heart. Gutted AJ like a fish. AJ's heart stopped twice once for 9 minutes. The girl had to have surgery repairing her diaphragm. And two others were stabbed. This isn't self defense it is overkill.

[@MELISAC389]

What would you have done in Miu’s situation that day??? One, your minding your grown business, 2, you’re asked “what are you doing” 3, all of a sudden you’re accused of looking for little girls around a bunch of boys. 4, then the drunken “underage might I add” group of boys start ranting “he’s a raper” he’s a pedophile. Then here comes another group. That jumps in this grown man’s face and starts cursing him, putting their hands in his face, putting their hands on him, taunting him, laughing at him, agging the whole situation up until the guy takes his blade out and starts to defend himself against the mob of underage drinkers. End of story those youngsters will have to live with the fact that they should have left this man alone, and let him mind his own business that he was doing from the very beginning. A mixture of alcohol and marijuana will end any party.!!! I’m so sorry for the loss of the young man’s life and the injuries others suffered. But someone started this fight, I say it definitely was the boys!!!

[@tammyvickers7779]

He did not run after them and stab them. They were on top of him and that’s why they were stabbed. They were attacking him in his personal space. Isaac had his hands around Nicks neck. Did u see that?

[@Donna-vh5ym]

​@@MELISAC389// most definitely. I just hope the jury gets this right. Nick was defending himself against a bunch of disgraceful acting hyenas feeding off of each other's BAD behavior.

[@MELISAC389]

@@tammyvickers7779 yes I saw that. I mean it’s very sad that he lost his young life. But you can not approach everyone aggressively

[@MELISAC389]

@@Donna-vh5ym EXACTLY 👍🏼

[@theworldisavampire3346]

Take alcohol out of the equation and THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED

[@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS]

Lol are you really trying to win that argument with Americans? They tried prohibition, it led to alot of blackmarket crime and obviously didn't last

[@MeMyselfandI25]

I don’t understand why people need alcohol to have fun.

[@pla5730]

I doubt it honestly.. I think these are a group of individuals that pick on a d bully people anywhere they go . It's in their nature

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@pla5730 miu murdered someone not anyone else

[@Robett-r4l]

​@@440-fishermandrock8he defended himself against a underage drunk that tried to choke him and that underage drunk died trying to choke him. It's not murder when you defend yourself and if someone's trying to choke you that doesn't know you you have the right to defend yourself by any means necessary and it's not our fault you're too lazy to look the actual facts up instead you would rather spread misinformation because you don't like the facts

[@Meowser186]

Miu " I hear someone got stabbed"? Really? Wow! That from a guy who disembowled one person, stabbed another to death and stabbed 3 others some women. Amazing denial.

[@deepemotion2745]

threw the murder weapon away and changed outfits to lol

[@dealincat933]

Just like the “teenagers” claimed, trauma effects your memory ;)

[@440-fishermandrock8]

Miu is a coward that is gonna lose more weight in jail​@@dealincat933

[@mediaterrorists8969]

@@dealincat933 Except for he wasn't in trama.... It seemed like he's done this dozens of times before..... Afterall, 10's of thousands go missing every year

[@JanaJacob-ii1bq]

​Trauma does affect your memory !

[@bhowish]

If you're innocent why wouldn't you tell the cops I was attacked and defended myself instead of saying I hear there was a stabbing and I fit the description

[@MeMyselfandI25]

You can’t say what you’d do in that situation.

[@girlnextdoor0703]

@@MeMyselfandI25 I can. I’ve been mugged and attempted sexual assault and had to taze the guy when I was a teen doing a pizza delivery job. I was 16…16. He ran off and I immediately called the cops, put the taser on the seat beside me in my car, got inside, locked the doors and waited for cops to arrive. What I didn’t do was get in my car, drive off, throw the taser out the window, change clothes and act surprised when the cops showed up. And I was a 16 year old, 78 pound Asian girl. At 16, I knew what I needed to do. Are you saying a 50-something year old man isn’t as smart as a 16 year old girl?

[@debbies6494]

He was in shock

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@@MeMyselfandI25delusional

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@@debbies6494he was trying to get away, stop defending a scumbag

[@jeremiahjkeesling7480]

All I know is the Judge in this case looks like Judge Harry Stone from Night Court

[@ronniebuchanan6575]

I said the samething to my buddy.

[@AFloridaSon]

I've been thinking that same thing.

[@critterscute3642]

I look at him and think who does that remind me of? You’re spot on!

[@American-gs4bt]

I said the same!!!!

[@michelemarie7777]

100%

[@yolandawilson6619]

She's answering more character questions than the wife did!

[@2112jp]

@@sA-ny2jl I believe the court system are told beforehand the purpose of the people selected to speak…she would be consider a character witness, especially because she knew the suspect for over 20 years

[@dawnlizmc]

Why does she seem so offended or belligerent in answering questions?

[@DurzoBlunts]

Because she doesn't actually know him, coworkers are just that. Not friends or family. Rarely are they that intimate at a regular job. Blue collar and military is different.

[@inaschultz1431]

​@@sA-ny2jlunfortunately they have the video of the 17 year old wearing his gold bracelet on the left hand with his right hand choking Miu out, Miu is leaning backwards trying to not get choked out to unconsciousness, and the BAC of the 17 year old at 2 x the legal limit. Sober that kid could have been a peaceful fine young man, but drunk, evidence on video proves he is impulsive and dangerous. No amount of baby pictures would convince a reasonable person of that, and that level of intoxication implies this 17 year old most likely drinks frequently to have that kind of tolerance. I am sorry for the loss to his family, but Mr. Miu had a right to defend himself, and looks like a broken man now after 2 years of jail, guy is a shadow of who he was.

[@ShadowvailYT]

@@sA-ny2jl It's because the victim's character is irrelevant in the case. The case is AGAINST Miu. The point of the trial is for the DA to prove that he DID NOT act in self defense. Innocent until proven guilty. That's how our court system works. Talking about a victim's character is irrelevant to proving that. Talking about Miu's character IS relevant to proving that he acted in self defense.

[@melaniebest5623]

This prosecutor is horrible like still in law school horrible. This is not a cut and dry case and this is the team you put together 😒 are they trying to throw the case 🤨

[@yankees29]

They know they have basically no case here so they put an incompetent prosecutor out there so they have a good scapegoat when he walks free.

[@yl7495]

The St Croix DA’s office is pathetic for not putting a better qualified team of prosecutors on a first degree murder trial.

[@NotaBotZe]

@@yankees29 Interesting, no case. Miu is the one who acted violently first when he had several chances to walk away.

[@dianehansma1725]

@@NotaBotZeexactly…I’m shocked at the number of people blaming these teens! Sickening!! I hope the jurors are smarter than this prosecutor! Good Lord!

[@USABeauboy]

@@dianehansma1725 Teens? Hardly! 17 and 18 and in mid 20's are not teens. 12 and 13 ok. But these guys SHOULD KNOW BETTER than to torment an old guy or anyone. Many teens and young ppl have killed others. Check the prison system. BTW I raised a very fine son. He's respectful. If your son is like any of those losers then you've got a big problem on your hands my friend. These are very bad young people. And that old guy was completely bullied

[@3939LA]

His actions speak volumes. You don’t run, hide the knife, and say nothing to your “friends” if you just defended your life. His story is not believable. He never looked scared-just a creepy smirk while preying on a bunch of teenagers.

[@yankees29]

Most of them weren’t “teenagers”. 😂

[@AFloridaSon]

Imagine being afraid of a large group, and rather than warn you're friends about them, you let everyone casually float by on inner tubes.

[@Piat65]

Amen

[@kerri-lynbryant293]

Yep

[@kerri-lynbryant293]

​@@yankees29Well the one's who were stabbed were. Also..the 17 year old boy that's DEAD!

[@sandibaker5298]

Why did Mui hit the girl, which is what set these events into motion. The guilty party is the ONE person who pulled a weapon on a bunch of kids.

[@gomiggang]

He even pulled the knife out before anyone hit him. This was premeditated

[@GmaMom]

Absolutely!

[@yankees29]

Where in the video did you see Nick hit the woman? I’m assuming you’re talking about the 20 something year old drunk 🐷 that decided she needed to butt into someone else business?

[@yl7495]

He turned around to come back so he could kill. Totally premeditated.

[@dianehansma1725]

You are so right…I still can’t comprehend the number of people in all videos blaming these teens and pretty much saying they deserved what they got!

[@cail171]

So they tubed on by as cpr was going on etc. Wow

[@EarlAnderson-gf8jf]

Yea they are some heartless people they just floated buy I can’t help but feel they are accessories after the fact

[@AFloridaSon]

Which also points out that Mui was "looking for a cellphone" down river, in an area they hadn't gotten to yet, so the phone would have been lost up river, where they had already been.

[@sundancer9324]

@AFloridaSon this is what I was thinking why would he be in there space

[@GOD719]

@@EarlAnderson-gf8jf Do you want them to go help the people who just attacked him?

[@LorraineMorsch]

Character of peacefulness, he murdered 1 person, but was aiming at killing 6 people. That does not sound peaceful to me.

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

And he's also quite the liar!

[@mikeskidmore6754]

Liberalism is a Mental Disease..

[@missychelle33]

Do you know what the most creepy thing about that video of him is?? paddling with his hand down the river, pretending nothing happened, is that there are ambulance sirens and police sirens in the background!! so he knows what he’s leaving. He knows that there’s carnage and chaos behind him and here he is just paddling his friends down the river.

[@terrilynnshoemaker5000]

The man was in shock. I'm not taking up for him, but that's what happens when you're in shock. You can also black out from the counseling that I've been a part of and have read about the human body is a weird thing. Especially if you're in fight or flight mode. This is a tragic happening on everybody's part.

[@missychelle33]

@@justmytwobits get off my comment with ur crap. He’s going to jail. I guarantee it. He had more than ample time to walk away and he didn’t. Also you don’t get to claim self defense when you throw the first punch. You are ridiculous

[@lynnvon8758]

​@@terrilynnshoemaker5000he wasn't in shock he murdered and didn't care

[@Shaner373]

@@missychelle33 more like prison

[@missychelle33]

@@Shaner373 well yea now thank god. Maybe that’s how they do things in Russia but not so much here. And tbh he handled that knife like he’s knifed people before. Supposedly his record was clean but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had been in a knife fight before

[@betty-janececile5214]

People in shock dont get rid of evidence, disguise themselves and lie to police shes lying for her friend

[@BlameJason]

He didn't disguise himself, he was wearing the exact same thing when he was arrested that he was wearing when he arrived at the river and throughout the day. He didn't try to flee the scene through the woods or rush away immediately after the incident. He didn't hurl his knife into the woods or bury it under a rock at the bottom of the river somewhere. If he wasn't in shock, his actions are very strange for someone who's trying to get away with murder. And what's his motive for suddenly becoming a cold blooded teen killer at the age of 50 after never having committed a crime and having no violent history? Miu made poor choices that I'm sure he wishes he could redo but to me, he was acting in self defense and the video proves it. 13 against one old man with a heart condition. When you call someone a predator and pedophile, that means you believe they deserve to die. And clearly, Miu felt that that mob surrounding him intended to kill him, especially when they began beating him from all sides.

[@mpatterson1673]

@betty-janececile5214 You are unbelievably ignorant.

[@yolandawilson6619]

Then tend to be remorseful

[@noklarok]

why not?

[@mediaterrorists8969]

​@@BlameJason 10's of thousands of teens go missing every year..... You thinking way to low and we should legalize these types of people..... cause that's the only reason I see anyone sticking up for this kind of barbarism.... To me he's done this rodeo dozens of times to be so brazen in broad day light and then act like nothing happened.

[@michelemarie7777]

He stabbed kids and goes back and sits in his tube with the group???? Ummmmm

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

You can't mob someone and then complain about what they do after.

[@skibee421]

@@SmokeStackLightning. no one did.

[@yolandawilson6619]

How is it that his so called friends didn’t step in to help? Why was he so far away from his own group?? Ive never seen a situation where not one friend nor his wife intervene.

[@Theresa89]

They were outnumbered by a group of morons .

[@user-pd7il3xz5j]

He was searching for his friend's lost phone. That's why he was in scuba gear.

[@annebosworth7048]

They were far away as mui was looking for a lost phone

[@ShhRoomvii]

They are all guilty. And this one looks like she was sleeping with him. The murder. He killed someone that was a teenager . Stabbed the heart. He is heartless and evil. He took the weapon with intent to kill.

[@ronniebuchanan6575]

He had left his group to look for the phone. He was so far away these drunk teenage testosterone charged boys thought he was alone. They engaged him asking him what he was doing. They thought they found an easy target to bully. Simple as that his group was 200 yds away.

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

Yeah, Nic's a stand up guy. Meanwhile he stabbed 5 people, disemboweling one and killing a 17 year old and then walks calmly back to his group of friends (after throwing away the knife) and doesn't tell them what he just did. He tells them they took his knife. He immediately begins to lie! Within seconds he's lying! If someone is truly defending themselves and survives, they call the police! Nic lost it is what happened!

[@andykerr3803]

60 comments... Use your real name 👃. You fool nobody.

[@alexlamuraglia8739]

Yes, agreed

[@kattykakes8135]

Not lying - in shock. Nicolae suffers from PTSD & was being treated for it.😊

[@kimberlyskye2024]

I do think he was trying to hide it cause people wouldn’t believe a group of like 15 people would bully an old man… they were pushing him under water it is self defence, he used to much force in defending himself but he had no chance without a weapon against that many people

[@sheliaharvel]

The man killed one and wounded 4 others. He should’ve stayed with his group. He lied about everything. He is guilty.

[@_Mutto_]

Meanwhile in reality...

[@annebosworth7048]

Sorry u need to watch the trial and videos

[@smith4407]

There is no way he feared for his life. He could have walked away. He was angry for being called names

[@NotaBotZe]

You'd lie too if you went on a stabbing spree.

[@annebosworth7048]

@smith4407 try watching the trial then u can comment after seeing the real facts

[@angelaricottawarriorrose9917]

So he peacefully stabbed 5 people!? 🤔

[@ZA-co9vj]

They will have you think that.

[@ohokayofficial]

I don’t get it either Is he going to take the stand and be questioned?

[@Laura-te1sk]

Looks like you have already reached a conclusion. Me too. The only conclusion I can come to at this point is that this didn’t need to happen amd all involved could have made better choices.

[@kimsears5265]

​@@ZA-co9vj LOL

[@tyr5119]

Do you people refuse to watch the video or are you in some other way incapable of following the trial? I really don't get how you come to the conclusion of him just walking over and randomly stabbing someone.

[@kandmforever303]

his group left. he threw the knife away they floated down the river away from these injured people and didnt think of helping at all. no lets keep quiet and hide how our friend just stabbed 5 people. jesus these friends are screwed up in the head

[@speedball23]

so you're surrounded by six men they attack you you stabbed a few of them now you're going to stick around and help

[@DH-rs2jm]

@@speedball23 He hit an uninvolved woman first; starting a fight with a complete 3rd party. 2nd He went to them to initiate the whole sequence of events. None of this is a good look.

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@DH-rs2jmur looking a little foolish now she's the one that started all this

[@colleenfletcher2550]

17 year old boys are not men. Miu charged at them grabbed the boys tubes to stop the tubes from moving. Look at the video.

[@ronniebuchanan6575]

​​@@DH-rs2jmno the woman got in his face grabbed his arm and he got her off of him. Have you not watched the video or followed the dialogue? She involved herself and had no authority to yell commands at him or put hands on him at all. He tried walking away and thry followed I would hate to be on trial and you be on the jury because you got it wrong.

[@bhowish]

Why would he tell the nurse the kid pulled the knife.. LIAR... GUILTY

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

Guilty of lying. Not guilty of murder. It was still self defense

[@yolandawilson6619]

​@AndrewSmith-qw5kt Wrong.

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

@@yolandawilson6619 No YOU'RE wrong little missy!

[@skibee421]

@@AndrewSmith-qw5kt let's don't go THAT far, smitty

[@DurzoBlunts]

​@@AndrewSmith-qw5ktno you're wrong times infinity!

[@julin2rs548]

Not one time did he say what happened to anyone. He wanted someone to touch him. He was just waiting for the first interaction so he could go all "Jack the Ripper" on them while smiling. And his so friends did not even ask what was going on? What happened to the kid that's getting CPR? Disgusting.

[@Matt_Wilson01]

Disgusting behaviour all round really, those kids were acting like animals

[@mrx2586]

But the teens did not bite the bait because they had no intent on violence to begin with. And then that damn Carlson came along and ruined his plans ( how can he claim he genuinely fears for his life if a second completely peaceful group turn up and 2 small women from that group tell him to leave repeatedly ) And to add insult to injury, after his plan had been ruined, the teens started pointing and laughing at him more so than before.

[@claytonish]

I’m sorry but a “peaceful” nature is wholly irrelevant to your capacity for violence and uncontrollable anger or a temporary fit of rage!

[@tyr5119]

You probably know better than the judge, who made a point of including this and only this character trait in the trial.

[@AFloridaSon]

Ted Bundy, John Gacy, the BTK Killer, they were all said to be good people.

[@alexlamuraglia8739]

You're so right!

[@sandibaker5298]

Okay. Question. Is this Ernesto’s wife, the man who spoke Spanish and had to have an interpreter on the stand? And didn’t I hear her say that she doesn’t speak Spanish? So if those statements are true, how do husband and wife communicate???

[@GmaMom]

Wow! Is she his wife?? Definitely lying!

[@kimberlywhipkey]

Maybe thats why they've been married so long.

[@debsea2759]

Husband speaks English. Not unusual to have interpreter of English is your second language.

[@lr8607]

Yes, that's his wife. What the prosecution did by asking Ernesto's wife about her not speaking Spanish is to preemptively take away the defense's ability to argue that Ernesto didn't understand what he was being asked or what he was communicating when he was questioned at the river bank. Very smart to ask his wife about her own language skills. Ernesto destroyed his own credibility at the river bank, just like his friend did. Can't blame language skills for that.

[@dragonbone5000]

Is this a serious question? I will take it at face value. Because English is their second or third language, they are required to have an interpreter in a court of law, to circumvent any possible future claims of misunderstandings.

[@tkh1231]

Of course he looked in shock and ghostly. He just gutted three kids and killed one and stabbed others. Never looked like before. I hope not.

[@kelcritcarroll]

True.. but before that he was brutally attacked by a group of young men/hyenas in the river…..

[@masterBong1]

@@kelcritcarrollyour boy is never seeing the light of day haha.

[@masterBong1]

@@kelcritcarrollyour boy is never seeing the light of day haha.

[@tkh1231]

@@kelcritcarroll Brutally attacked? The only marks he had on him was on his back.

[@TrillShatner]

I am looking forward to the verdict knowing you will see it and lose your shit completely.

[@sharonchristian8508]

Clearly this perpetrator is not peaceful. One person is dead at his hand and 4 others lived because they recieved urgent Medical Care. This testimony is not believable.

[@patriotcountry4716]

Clearly you don't understand having the right to defend yourself against a pack of drunk,doped up punks who start a fight,attack someone and because they lost the fight, because it didn't turn out to be the he he ha ha they thought it was going to be they now cry victim. Hopefully you'll never have to experience several people attacking you while you're out alone sweetie because you probably won't get to walk away

[@sharonchristian8508]

I am not your sweetie. Your assumption that I have no experience in such a situation is odious. I do know what I am talking and to add insult to injury I was seven months pregnant at the time. No one was left dead including me. Killing people because they are drunk and you have a knife is known as murder and attempted murder among most peaceful adults. Miu is reprehensible not a peaceful person. Nobody in his party tried to save the lives of those he attacked. All of them are complicit .

[@patriotcountry4716]

@sharonchristian8508 Yeah sweetie among PEACEFUL adults it is. but Mr. Miu wasn't dealing with PEACEFUL adults he was berated, attacked,punched,slapped,pushed into water with his face and head in water by a bunch of drunk,dope head punks who some were much bigger,stronger than he and him in bad health. Now sweetie go back and tell your friends people aren't blind, they see what happened and know Mr. Miu was defended himself from his attackers. Oh and tell maddie I said hi and that I suggest next time she's drunk to keep her smart drunk @$$ mouth shut and hands to herself along with the others. And NO sweetie you haven't been in a situation like that, yet anyway. Contrary to what the MARXIST in WASHINGTON DC have told ALL you LEFTIST Americans have the right to defend THEMSELVES against punks,mobs,criminals, drunks and dope heads who attack them. Actions do have consequences and those people sadly had to learn the hard way. I'm sure the 6 ,11 or 12 that was on one felt like they were a real bad @$$ but reality is they just showed what punks they were. You might try your BS on someone else but I'm not the one sweetie

[@ohokayofficial]

14:04 - all you need to see Predicting this trial to end with a *Guilty Verdict*

[@janicep1508]

Not really. A similar case where a 19 year old stabbed a 34 year old in self defense. He was put on trial, after the stabbing he ran and hid at his parents house, took a shower and disposed of his clothes. That was irrelevant because he proved self defense.

[@colleenbilly]

The FACT they did not help speaks VOLUMES. How could they do this???.. disgusting individuals. Not rendering aid is a crime in my thoughts.

[@bustorobusto6316]

Lol “in my thoughts” nobody cares about your stupid thoughts about what is a crime in your head

[@yankees29]

In that case the victim’s friends should all be charged. They all ran away.

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

​@@yankees29I was saying the same exact thing if this was anybody else they would be charged with accessory after the fact at the least. Because they were literally trying to help him flee the scene. Look at the video they tried to create, you see the suspect sitting in the tube with his jacket already on while he's still in the water that doesn't make any sense. Why would he already have his jacket and hat and glasses on while he's still in the tube floating down the river. And you see the Mexican ladies trying to record someone on the River Bank saying that's him that's him. They were trying to help him get away and record someone else to try to make it seem like someone else did it which makes them guilty with conspiring to help a suspect getaway. And I'm sure this is why they all try to claim that they didn't know what happened or didn't see anything happen because if they would admit it, they probably would have gotten charged . But I think the video they made speaks volumes it shows they were trying to help him leave the scene and put the blame on somebody else. They should be charged all of them

[@cail171]

Ya. Idk. The way his friends nor wife didnt check on him etc. Just left him. Then tubed right on by. So odd

[@betty-janececile5214]

Because they know something we dont about Mr mui

[@yolandawilson6619]

​@@betty-janececile5214Agree

[@desertrose156]

How about psychopathic

[@desertrose156]

@@betty-janececile5214yeah this wasn’t his first rodeo clearly

[@MrWeepies]

“Miu has a character for peacefulness”. Was that before or after he stabbed a young kid to death and attempted to murder several others?

[@rockstarofredondo]

After being beaten by a Lord of the Flies mob.

[@dkg249]

Right? So dumb.

[@craiglist187]

It was before he was attacked by thugs in the river

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@@craiglist187miu was a coward and will lose even more weight in prison 😂😂

[@Theresa89]

@@rockstarofredondo, Lord of the flies 😂😂😂😂😂❤ it 👏🏽👏🏽

[@denisewilkins393]

She is so not comfortable during cross examination that leads me to believe she is afraid of being caught lying for the defense.

[@yankees29]

Every one of those kids that have taken the stand so far have all lied to protect themselves.

[@yolandawilson6619]

Agree.

[@HaVoKisthebetterSuMmErS]

You can see her tear up when asked about her recollection of his state after returning, she's feeling alot of emotion about what she's saying, her body starts to crumple in and she looks uncomfortable

[@mediaterrorists8969]

Butcher Nik is staring at her soul..... wondering how she'd taste on the barbie

[@mala-dd8fg]

No she was very comfortable. She can only say what she knows. And she kept to that. She was wary yes , anxious no.

[@justice8563]

Nic’s peacefulness stabbed 5 people, 2 seriously and 1 who died. This is a very strange group.

[@yolandawilson6619]

How is she so confused and stressed?? She knows shes messing up.

[@benfrese3573]

maybe because she's aware that millions are watching? All you experts who can read faces here lol

[@yolandawilson6619]

@@benfrese3573 Reading body language is easy. Try it.

[@dyanalynn6698]

Boy I bet the defense is really glad they called this witness 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@mediaterrorists8969]

probably got plans to shack up IE, divorce..... likely just as sick as him...... probably open up a butcher shop together and have cookout with BOBBY-Q ribs

[@440-fishermandrock8]

Exactly, ppl trying to critique the prosecution but it's the defense that look foolish defending a murderer

[@trayvonparker4772]

@@440-fishermandrock8lol 😂 a murdered? Issac literally had his hands around his neck. You guys are silly and thank god you’re not on the jury.

[@dvr5050]

​@@trayvonparker4772mr mui is going to prison. The defense is just trying to make it less time.

[@benfrese3573]

@@trayvonparker4772 It was more like shoving him while their hands are around his neck, it's not like they were actively choking him. Looks like a massive over reaction on his side.

[@seascape185]

Omg 😱 I’m going to scream could she be less aware of was she even there? 😮😮

[@JohnMoran]

I'm sure you were this upset when Hillary lost, too.

[@yankees29]

@@JohnMoranperfect response.😂

[@silvermainecoons3269]

@@yankees29 idiotic response.

[@mediaterrorists8969]

probably got plans to shack up IE, divorce..... likely just as sick as him...... probably open up a butcher shop together and have cookout with BOBBY-Q ribs

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@JohnMoran will you cry when miu is found guilty like chauvin? 😂😂😂😂😂 I bet you will

[@naturalunnatural]

Why isn't the girl they say Miu struck giving her own testimony? That seems important.

[@danielstadden1149]

YES! Isn't that what started it?

[@123caseydee]

She did last week but requested it not be recorded (voice or video)

[@betty-janececile5214]

She did look for it

[@markroe8229]

​@@betty-janececile5214No, she didn't.

[@alexlamuraglia8739]

No one looks for getting hit in the face! Never

[@paw-prints839]

Shocked that his anger just killed someone. For all he knew it could have been more than 1 dead.

[@SilentThundersnow]

Most of his anger was because his ego was hurt, and he could not handle it that he was getting old and these kids had their whole life in front of them, and he was married to a dolt. When his manhood was challenged, widdle iddy biddy manboy could not handle it, He took all of that out on them.

[@debbies6494]

Highly doubt it! It was self defense and these teenagers got more than they bargained for when they thought it was so funny to be taunting and beating on this man.

[@strontium2955]

@@SilentThundersnow lol you're completely unhinged

[@wildbear2472]

​@@debbies6494 It sounds like you haven't watched the whole video. In the video we see Nic (the older guy) rushing the teens and grabbing onto their tubes and perhaps legs... that's physical escalation #1. Then (not on video) multiple witnesses claim he struck a woman, and you can hear the teens reaction to it... that's physical escalation #2. He also steps in front of their tubes at one point to suggest blocking their movement. Also, at no time does he just try to, you know, BE AN ADULT and talk to the teens to settle them down. So from the video and multiple eyewitness accounts, it seems that Nic initiated a chaos sequence that led to him stabbing 5 people and killing 1. No adult should be justifying his behavior. This doesn't mean the kids were saints, but no good person is going to go on a stabbing spree over some mean words.

[@HexJK]

​@@debbies6494 It could have been self defense had he made any effort to leave. However, his claim to "fear for his life" goes out the window because he kept walking back to the group, and the fact that he discreetly pulled the knife out (seen in the video) but continued to walk around among the group (while armed) also proves the stabbings were premeditated, and that he was waiting to act out "self defense". He's most definitely getting life in prison. The main reason this trial is so "complicated" is because he lied so much, and his friends are giving conflicting testimonies.

[@kasi60073]

Why would anyone lie for a killer?

[@mediaterrorists8969]

probably got plans to shack up IE, divorce..... likely just as sick as him...... probably open up a butcher shop together and have cookout with BOBBY-Q ribs

[@bhowish]

Did you see injured people? She says no.. did you see a person getting cpr? She says yes????? WTF

[@trayvonparker4772]

She saw someone giving CPR but didn’t see the person in the water stupid

[@cecilefannin4776]

That's my question why did no one in his group step in to stop him????

[@betty-janececile5214]

His friend Erik von williams didn't want him to go snorkel because some could think he was a pervert. Why would his friend say that? there is a reason

[@BlessedMomfmTexas]

They were Far away. In fact he tried waving them down..

[@BlessedMomfmTexas]

​@@betty-janececile5214You're taking that absolutely out of context. Not what he said.

[@yolandawilson6619]

​@@betty-janececile5214I think he was looking at the females in the water.

[@kimcrouse3236]

Because they're scared of him. They already knew he had screws loose

[@fedup9577]

Hey Kids! Sorry to bother you. By chance did you happen to find a phone? Okay, thank you anyways. Have a good day. This is the character of a peaceful man....

[@janetsamon749]

A peaceful person doesn't punch a woman because she is yelling for him to leave. A peaceful person doesn't hold onto teenagers tunes preventing them to leave. He is a liar trying to cover himself from spending time in prison for murder. It was not self defense!

[@michaelh878]

No evidence he punched her.

[@basiahellwich3505]

totally agree.

[@coterie_black]

He never punched her, video proves this

[@elementonly08]

Wasn’t she calling him a predator?

[@michaelh878]

@@coterie_black The video doesn't show conclusively. We can see a cell phone in her right hand and her waving her hands around in an aggressive manner. Then we miss a couple seconds with bodies in between. My guess is he struck out at her right hand in some manner which may have been near her face at the time and then she and/or others made a mountain out of the molehill to escalate the situation.

[@EarlAnderson-gf8jf]

Nicks in trouble nobody look or pay attention to what he’s in trouble with don’t even ask

[@rhondaeverett8284]

She is lieing. Who was on bank, they tried to set up while they floated on tube)?

[@innocentbystander8038]

You do realise the whole thing was over in about 90 seconds?

[@sherrywuest574]

He is a murderer! Guilty!

[@cglostinvegas]

Nope. Those kids were a mob. They’re entitled little monsters who were punching him and pushing him down in the water because he was looking for a phone. They were calling him names that were lies and attracted an even larger crowd. That man had reasonable fear for his life. Who cares what he said or did afterwards. Probably in shock that he had to cut people to save his own life.

[@ohokayofficial]

@@cglostinvegas 14:04 He was well aware and cognitive enough to claim that he “heard” someone got stabbed. When he was in fact, the one who inflicted that action. So why when he “saw” someone get stabbed, did he only say he “heard”?

[@annebosworth7048]

He's guilty of self defence

[@Ultraone-x9o]

Self defense Karen

[@sherrywuest574]

@@cglostinvegas so a bunch of "kids" were calling him names....awe.

[@leeannecruwysleeannaluv1260]

Was that his peacekeeping knife. He is a saint. Ready to help with pools and fix things. He is a regular dreamboat. So into keeping the peace while drunk in swim trunks he still has his peacekeeping knife just in case he has to fix something.

[@kittyrodgers8078]

You label his knife with a nickname in an effort to mock him. Totally oblivious to the fact that having a pocket knife is not a crime. Many people carry pocket knives. That is not a crime and quite frankly none of anyone else's business. No one is obligated to accept the bullying behavior of the mob mentality. You got rights and that is as far as your brain seems to venture out. What you fail to realize is Mr. Mui has the same rights you do. No one had any right to demand he leave that public space, much less out their hands on him. The MOB went after that man and are complaining that they are the ones that got rather than being able to continue to slap him punch push under water and slander him for their amusement. Those people were disrespectful, down right rude, and clearly abusive. There is no excuse for their behavior. Stop trying to enable entitlement.

[@alexlamuraglia8739]

Amen!

[@kattykakes8135]

@@kittyrodgers8078such a calm voice of reason! ❤

[@kittyrodgers8078]

@@kattykakes8135 thank you. I try to be as understanding of others as I would like to be regarded with. No seems to acknowledge the culturally differences and possible language barrier. By that I mean he speaks several languages but when his fight or flight response kicks in does he have an accent maybe they simply didn't understand him. Still a little live and let live philosophy goes along way.

[@kattykakes8135]

@@kittyrodgers8078 well said, friend. Not guilty! 🩷

[@seascape185]

Was this the best witness he had of his friends?

[@westwindwoman6191]

No, you have to watch all testimonies.

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

The prosecution witnesses have been the best defense witnesses.

[@TheSakufighter]

They’re all bad and most of them don’t even speak English

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

@@TheSakufighter They're a lot more credible and likable than the prosecution's witnesses. I think they're all here legally.

[@skibee421]

@@SmokeStackLightning. what would make u think that?? anyone who doesn't speak english & wants to live here-need to learn. they have no allegiance to any country. there's rules to becoming a citizen, a citizen test, must speak some english, have a way to support urself & a lot of money for becoming a citizen. these foreigners didn't do chit...they don't care to be a citizen--just live here off us. thanks i needed that. . . .

[@katherineschaefer4188]

He is guilty of hitting a women. He is quilty of killing one and assaulting 5 Others overkill?

[@deltron3030z]

Quilty…?

[@Fishing_ninja420]

Where’s the evidence of him hitting a woman? Without physical evidence it’s just conjecture.

[@kersmash723]

ohhh youre not going to like the outcome lol

[@markroe8229]

You mean the woman who walked almost 50 ft to get in his face, scream obscenities at him, and then push him? The one that there is NO VIDEO of being hit? The one who hasn't testified to being hit? I think she's home getting some remedial training in how to mind her OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

[@deltron3030z]

He was completely outnumbered and being hit/ pushed down into the water, absolutely 100% self defense-

[@Just-Melanie]

I was talking to my Uncle - he is a retired Federal Judge & he said Miu is probably going to jail. The Lawyers in this case on both sides are not doing their clients any favors - incompetent! While the "kids" were reckless, irresponsible & bullying Miu - he should have walked away, but instead, he engaged with them further - he made the mistake of smacking the girl physically, then stabbing her, then continued to engage with them. That first engagement was on a physical level while the kids were verbal in the beginning. They physically engaged after the girl was smacked, then stabbed. Then all hell broke out. Both sides are guilty of their respective hideous behavior, but what was the reason for stabbing the girl in the first place? His getting his clothes back on, tossing the knife, no real communication with his group afterwards & then they just keep going without helping the injured appears like he is hiding what he did, then his response in the patrol car was bizarre, so self defense looks shakey. It really is a very scary & tragic situation for both sides. I understand people going after both sides, but bullying someone & aggressively stabbing & killing people are two very different things & responses. You have to be pretty aggressive to disembowel someone. It will be interesting to see how the jury interprets bullying vs stabbing, then killing. It really is very disturbing on both sides that this behavior exists in this day & time - how very sad & pathetic . . . 🧐🤬💔

[@myblacklab7]

Hitting a woman generally escalates a situation, and that's what Miu started with, while holding a knife... assuming that happened. I'm not sure that it has been established that he hit the girl, although that's what I've been led to believe so far, and he definitely stabbed a woman who did not seem to be threatening him with serious physical harm.

[@zandersmiranda9256]

Sure however the defense really did a great job in cross examination by dis-crediting all of these individual testimonies and their behavior and shows their frustrations, attitudes and anger tells me how they handle situations will likely show empathetic to an older white man and the video. All of these jurors and nowadays how today see how teens in this generation show less respect, no accountability, irresponsible and no respect for others will likely say NOT GUILTY. I certainly feel that way and I am sure a lot of do

[@minilea25]

⁠they were high school kids I expect them to be immature. I expect a man more than twice their age to know better and just keep walking.

[@zandersmiranda9256]

There was no evidence or anyone who saw him punch the girl. All of them could not say or not remember what had happened. The lawyer yesterday went through the video frame by frame step by step, and all have different stories if it was a jab, close punch, and he had the knife on the right arm the same arm they said he alleged to have punch her which means there would have been more damage or speculate how that was possible. Look at the cross examination from yesterday's court . These testimonials are all now different from what they all are now saying at the stand. Two years enough make changes and forget in their own words they now play dementia.

[@zandersmiranda9256]

Clearly follow and not go by what all the media and outlets that he punched her.....these witnesses all have different stories because they never saw but because the heard what believe was a punch and she fell....she never fell she slightly moved back perhaps her drunkenness and being in his face caused her to lose balance is when you hear shouting he punched her....the video shows the blonde making an expression next to her was nosy white girl you only see her arm leg and what could be pushing him and the white boy cooker who sicker punch him that is when he fell follow by 2 more and the guy who held him to the water floor. 2 videos 2 angles when he stood up, you already see the knive and never used it still to the side and they were warned when one of the boys shouted he's got a knife step back but they never did which the lawyer pointed our...well you all claim you were in danger and threatened why didn't you back away or tell others...he couldn't exactly explain why but well he hit a girl...

[@walterhunter3353]

Don’t ever put her back on the stand

[@ShondezMorris]

Why?

[@kimward5746]

She’s terrible for her friend.

[@TheSnuffda]

@@journeymanelectrician true true..my god

[@Lee-n2n1t]

@@journeymanelectriciandefinitely not a good character witness.

[@melaniebest5623]

Why can’t see say what he told it wouldn’t be hearsay cause she told him directly.

[@Vee-wq2du]

Does anyone know which video it's said that Miu had been over where the teens were, left and came back?

[@kimcrouse3236]

It's in the beginning of the recording

[@kimcrouse3236]

You can search video on KZbin..Apple river stabbing i think

[@3939LA]

Miu’s friends all seem terrified of him

[@Piat65]

Foreigners. I bet you there wasn’t two in that group that knew him for a long period of time.

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

​@Piat65 or they only knew of him from working in the same company but probably didn't really know him well.

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

No they don't.

[@honeybadger1847]

I think they’re wary of the people questioning them, but I don’t detect fear of Miu.

[@ericjayfederizo3549]

Now they are because of what he did. Amanda hides but looks feel sorry for him.

[@lr8607]

At the four minute mark, this witness says Miu put his shirt on when he came back to the tubes. The defense lawyer then changes the subject ("we'll talk about that later"). We've obviously heard the defense talk about the shirt as if Miu stayed bare-chested until after they were done tubing. Clearly this wasn't true. He put it on right after the stabbings, as the video taken by Miu's group of him floating clearly shows. Terrible defense strategy to take a position not supported by the evidence, implying that Miu didn't try to alter his appearance.

[@beloskhanania5645]

You think a shirt is really going to disguise him???

[@nathanbain798]

This is laughable. Someone putting on a shirt isn’t changing their face. Now a hat or glasses you have weight but a shirt is just dumb.

[@Sosozanyway]

Him having a shirt on or not is a useless, waste of time. It's not important.

[@lr8607]

@@Sosozanyway Tell it to the defense attorney. He has asked about his client's clothing with everyone in Miu's group that day. I guess he has a reason for doing that. Seems you don't think so, eh?

[@Sosozanyway]

@@lr8607 sure, then the defense attorney was wasting everyones time.

[@Debi2418]

So if he was not intoxicated then he stabbed them out of anger. No liquor was a factor.

[@trayvonparker4772]

He stabbed out of fear for his life stupid

[@lilithstribe]

Or out of self defense.

[@beloskhanania5645]

It's called being scared of being attacked by 13 people who have ready pushed and punched him. Oh let's not forget called him a rapist and pedophile.

[@Jake_RF]

Yeah which makes him look worse, not sure why the defense thinks that helps him lol

[@loris3595]

He stabbed them because they were attacking him.About 15 young adults hitting, kicking, pushing him and holding his head under water while screaming and cursing.

[@johnwheelz1699]

Both parties did not act right that day and this is what happens. The young adults should have kept their mouths shut and the old man should have walked away. It’s a real shame.

[@GmaMom]

And Old man didn’t need to stab 5 people! Stab is an understatement…he gutted them! He was out to kill, not to defend himself. He was the aggressor….he punched a woman and the group reacted to that.

[@GmaMom]

But there was only one person gutting the other people with his knife! He could have and should have walked away….

[@tsunamiiwinterz-px7oz]

@@GmaMom Nope, the drunk and methed up bully thugs were attacking and trying to kill him!!! Did you even watch the video???

[@GmaMom]

@@tsunamiiwinterz-px7oz No one was on meth! It was never said they were on meth, are you?? I’ve watched the entire thing.,..The old guy started hanging around the teens…he grabbed their tubes…He could have walked away! Teens saying mean things does not mean they are on meth! They were drinking and smoked some pot…they were acting like teens act when they are out having fun. Do you realize teens brains aren’t fully developed at that age? Do you realize old guy should have had enough good sense to walk away and ignore them, You would think his brain was fully developed…until he thought it was a good idea to keep hanging around the kids and then hit a woman…That is when the group reacted! He then pulls out a knife and starts stabbing everyone! He should have walked away,! He had several opportunities to walk away. The teens felt like the guy was a creep! Look at that crazed face stabbing everyone in sight! Not to mention he just went down the River like nothing happened as the t stabbed victims were fighting for their lives. Rude teenagers don’t deserve to be stabbed to death! This guy needs to go to prison for life!

[@NotaBotZe]

@@tsunamiiwinterz-px7oz "methed up"? Uh...what? I did watch the video. I read a lot of comments blaming a bunch of drunk young people. Are you sure Miu only had two beers? He looked pretty intoxicated to me and let his drunk ego get in the way. He could have walked away instead of charging the rafters, and yet no one attacked him. He could have still walked away but he stuck around to hit a woman. So who acted in self defense.

[@tullmeister]

People with a "character of peacefulness" don't kill 17 year old boys because they were pushed a bit and called names. For someone claiming he was beaten his injuries were incredibly light. A bruise on his butt, some scrapes, ect...but he was "jumped on by 7 people and beaten"....really? A grown man was pushed around and called bad names by a few punks and people think his stabbing 5 people, killing one, and disembowling nearly killing another is a "reasonable and justified" reaction? In no way would a reasonable person have felt their life was in danger. What is wrong with people?

[@CaseyRhyneXoXo]

Saying he wasn't drunk doesn't really help explain his actions 🤦‍♀️

[@johanniemeyer9579]

Did they test his alcohol level?

[@feligv729]

​@@johanniemeyer9579 The forensic nurse at the jail didn't get a blood sample. She took photographs of his abrasiins from falling. She did his vital signs. But they took the blood alcohol level of the youth. Witnesses say he had been drinking.

[@seascape185]

I don’t believe her at all

[@JohnMoran]

Not enough of a methhead for you?

[@lilpinksliplee7310]

2 questions would have shut her down. #1 Are you a medical professional? #2 What are S/S of shock?

[@walterhunter3353]

He explained it to her, and she still shaking her head

[@thenightporter]

I know! 😤. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@nothingcangowrongnow]

That was painful to watch.

[@mala-dd8fg]

No I think she was a good witness. Because age was clear and not being tripped by by the prosecution to say something she didn't see and couldn't say.

[@GOD719]

Stress and anxiety can do that.

[@mala-dd8fg]

@@GOD719 I think it's more about getting a proper understanding of the question. You have to admit it was a bit confusing. I have given evidence. I was not anxious but was wanting to actually understand what I was being asked. Because I didn't want to just answer appropriately but properly/correctly.

[@helenfong3339]

This woman is terrified.

[@Meowser186]

Nick was a nice guy until he went psycho and started stabbing people. How many times have we heard how surprised people are when discover their friend, neighbor, or relative is such a nice guy until they commit murder(s). Too bad Nick didn't stick to cutting rope. Imagine Nick when he isn't relaxed. How do find a phone in a river? This witness saw nothing of the stabbings. I bet she is very careful around Nick going forward. Nick was in "shock". I am sure he was in shock after doing what he did. It was starting to sink in. The Miu knife that has been exhibited in earlier videos is certainly NOT a pocket knife.

[@yolandawilson6619]

Exactly!

[@mala-dd8fg]

Best testimony. Straight forward clear . Just the facts.

[@SunFlower-sf1go]

Pretty useless witness. She did have a good video of Miu paddling along like nothing happened after hacking up 5 people though.

[@mala-dd8fg]

@@SunFlower-sf1go she was there as a character witness. She was there to establish how he looked after the incident. Yes she had a good video but she couldn't really say . Why would you say something you are unsure of. She couldn't really see his face in one of the videos and she said that. She got clarification about what she was asked and was only saying what she knows , can see and can reasonably say. That's a good witness.

[@ShondezMorris]

Justice For Isaac🙏🏽 this man is a muderer he didnt have to stab multiple people this is just cruel shes lying out her teeth i like how he says "do you remember what nick said to you when he approached you" ? Then the man cut her off when she was gonna say what nick told her. The man killed one and stabbed several he can rot lbs

[@youngkidrules]

Isaac already got justice. Thats why hes not here

[@IndentureTrustee]

Не got wнat не dеserved.

[@Andrea-e4r8y]

@@IndentureTrustee you want evil to prevail .. well guess what God always wins

[@Dat_Sun]

The justice system has a record that might make me want to try and remain unknown as well.

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

I don't care what anyone says, and that video that the defendants friends made when they're trying to record some other guy on the river bank and say that he's the suspect, you see the defendant sitting in his tube paddling away looking nice and calm with his disguise already on. Remember he's already wearing his jacket and hat sunglasses when he's in the tube, that looks suspicious. I can understand him putting his jacket on and all that when he got to the car. But why would he put his jacket on when he's still sitting in the tube going down the river? Because it's only going to get wet again his shirts only going to get wet it almost looks like they're trying to stick up for him and help him flee the scene. And like I said in another comment most people that do this would be charged with accessory

[@rhondaeverett8284]

Exactly

[@markroe8229]

He was wearing all of that prior to the altercation.

[@rhondaeverett8284]

markroe8229 not while he did the stabbings.

[@lynnvon8758]

​@@markroe8229no he wasnt

[@Riana_K9]

Praying for Sandra Miu ❤🙏🏻 please don't give up on NIC. This friend of Miu also such a nice person. Wishing you all the best! God Bless team Miu ❤

[@PTjennifer]

Disgusting. I don't think she said anything about his character, which I'm shocked the state didn't really explore.

[@jayns69]

Appearantly somebody got stabbed, and I fit the description. Hmm. No mention of, oh yeah that was me. I totally forgot about just evicerating 5 people earlier, my bad. I had a couple of beers don't ya know.

[@_Mutto_]

Which part of "I heard somebody got stabbed, and I fit the description" is untrue?

[@Alexus095]

Well yeah but he has a right to not testify against himself. Although him even for a second thinking that with all the witnesses and a guy recording that he could evade here, is ridiculous. I'm not sure what his blood alcohol was or whether they tested him for other substances.

[@yankees29]

He had the right to remain silent. You don’t really sound like a law scholar.😂

[@yl7495]

@@yankees29 he did not remain silent. He tried to throw the police off his trail, playing like the perpetrator was someone else.

[@dianehansma1725]

I pray this psycho rots in prison! This prosecutor is not good at all!! I pray that the jurors are smarter than him! Gawd!

[@justynabm4959]

What do you call someone who is "peaceful" for twenty years, and when provoked attacks and kills? Ticking bomb waiting to explode?

[@rickystroud4820]

You should call him Mr. F-Around & Find Out 🔪🗡

[@badabing191919]

You're not a good person. You're a demon ​@@rickystroud4820

[@roncheaters]

Someone who has seen enough Classic KZbin, or WorldStar videos to say I ain't going down like that bitches!

[@lindaashmore1246]

That is really a good question..

[@deepemotion2745]

@@rickystroud4820 ya he's gonna find out alright, what a jail cell feels like to live in LOL

[@FernandoRodriguez-c2e]

The old man is a psico. He wasnt even punched and he pulls a knife. He should have acted as an adult and either go or defend himself using his hands only.

[@saravargas31]

LOL you obviously have not been paying attention to the trial.

[@trayvonparker4772]

lol you can’t even spell psycho 😂 no one takes your opinion seriously. Go back to school

[@Michelleyoung1717]

Yes he was punched Twice. Fyi

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

That's ridiculous.

[@bluefenixalchemy7]

She knows all side ls of him? Put words in here mouth, he obviously had a character issue the day he couldn't walk away from a group of youngsters, blocking them and holding their tubes, he cut them with a smirk on his face, he is not the man some claim, what were results of his toxicology report, was he sober

[@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.]

Isn't it weird that every single one of these people have some side story as to why he always has a knife? Convenient the only time he doesn't have one is after he stabs 5 young folk in a river.

[@kelcritcarroll]

I always have a knife….yeah and im a 62 yr old housewife. My knives blade says improved muskrat on it…..many menalso always carry a jack knife…my dad carried one in his pocket his whole life..never saw ‘y dad without a jack knife…..my husband always carries his jack knife……if my dad really thought alot of someone, he would gift them a jack knife…..its not odd or weird whatsoever…unless maybe u are just from a young generation perhaps or have nothing to do with outdoor sports …..that is a fact

[@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.]

@@kelcritcarroll would you toss your prized muskrat knife after stabbing 5 people?

[@BettyWhite2171]

I always have mine everywhere I go.

[@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.]

@@BettyWhite2171 and would you toss it after you stabbed 5 people?

[@Dont.Call.Me.Tall.]

@@BettyWhite2171 you and me can carry tools without stabbing 5 young people in a river right? I carry a knife too. My point is these people are acting coerced. And Nico had 30 minutes to coerce.

[@BongzillaBrutus]

The fact that Nicolai lost all that weight says this shits weighing heavy on his soul and naturally so. He was helping a friend and everything escalated so fast and even quicker once the woman decided to walk her drunk ass over in a situation among dudes. I blame her.

[@aliciagwrjrnfj]

Both sides are lying. The murderer is not peaceful and the kids were acting a fool. Sad situation but all someone had to do was walk away. Anyone of them could have.

[@joed-9940]

It looks like these young peaple was attacking him calling him a child predator and laughing about it if they thought he was a predator why laugh and provoke him just call the police ,someone lied about the predator part then everyone attacked him its like yelling fire

[@bonniethecotondetulear4307]

The defence lawyer characterised him as peaceful first. He is implanting all the words he needs to for the jury to remember- he does this for every witness. I don’t understand why prosecution do not object - surely it’s leading?

[@AMYV3]

“They waited”… they waited that time then leave when the cops get there… then they leave, looks were changed by them … Then. “ what’s going on. I heard there was a stabbing and I fit the the looks” whatever that part wasn’t important to me. The fact he went THAT route .. what’s going on ..route. Was all I needed to hear. GULITY!!! If he felt scared bla bla bla even though buddy just wouldn’t leave and felt to be the victim you certainly wouldn’t try to sneak out it then lie when you get caught. He knew in his head he wanted to fight that day. He likes it. (I’ve known many who like to fight, idiots). There was in no doubt not fearing anyone that day. too drink and an killer

[@Phoenix_blue]

Nick got his feelings hurt was embarrassed so he raged against these kids, but not the ones who were confronting him, instead the peace keepers who were telling everyone to break it up. He’s a liar, killer, and a coward. Hope he rots in prison for 100+years

[@MomMom-kc4ee]

Amen

[@ghostmantis1068]

​@duncanmacleod7287 lol did you ? Haha trust me buddy he is in the wrong either way you look at it.

[@hughjoelcaulk7244]

The first time Nic was knocked down into the water (after being screamed at, taunted, humiliated and being called a pedo and raper of little girls ) it came from a punch and when he was trying to get up you could see he in the video he was clearly punched in the head. When he tried to get up a 3RD time he was pushed back down into the water. That for sure warrants self defense and it's all those vile, disgusting, drunken, disrespectful, "teens" that should go to jail for the death of their friend. If those "teens" had just been good people, they'd have joined in and helped Nic find his friends phone.

[@Phoenix_blue]

@duncanmacleod7287 I watched. He used deadly force because they thought he was creepy. And instead of explaining why he was under their tubes and holding their tubes from moving, he got confrontational. He then proceeded to punch a girl in the face who was yelling at him to leave. He didn’t go after the guys who were acting stupid, he went after innocent and snapper off the group. He was not afraid for his life, he was embarrassed. He lied about ever having the knife and tried to dispose of it. If he really thought he was in the right, tell me why he hid the evidence, changed his appearance and lied about being the man they were looking for. Because he is guilty of using deadly force when all he needed to use were his words.

[@Phoenix_blue]

@duncanmacleod7287 I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, and I don’t need to rewatch it. However, you need to find some psychological help.

[@ShhRoomvii]

It looks like she's lying.

[@JohnMoran]

Why, because she's not a puffy eyed methhead, like the witnesses you prefer?

[@DadHominem]

I wonder how the events would be different if the teens left Nicolae alone to search for the phone. Like, had the younger crowd not harassed him and knocked him down. Maybe a good lesson here is simply don't fu@k with strangers.

[@cail171]

None of this would had happened. Period. Smfh. This is a brutal case. Those ppl were acting like rabies infected hyenas on that video. My god.

[@EarlAnderson-gf8jf]

Right he should have never fucked with them now look at his predicament

[@MrSimondaniel3]

knocked him down... only after he punched a girl in the face. I don't understand y'all defending Miu. he's very clearly a psychopath. very clearly.

[@MrSimondaniel3]

​@@cail171rabies infected hyenas? really? they did nothing but taunt the guy. do hyenas take down their prey by vocal means?

[@theinnerlight8016]

​@@MrSimondaniel3Even real psychologists can't make those diagnosis from a short video. You must be a special sort of genius.

[@CALB2009]

So far, the testimony of the people in Miu's group comes across as bizarre, abnormal, and untruthful. They keep talking about still being "UP RIVER" from the incident site and not being aware that there was an emergency situation taking place. I call B.S.! I don't believe Nick was just a "Peaceful Guy". Given his actions that day, there's a high probability that Nick has a history of violence. I think there was a concerted effort by all of them, to cover-up whatever Nick said happened when he came back to the raft. Everyone else on the river that day was HIGHLY AWARE that there was suddenly a heavy police presence and multiple people stabbed! Yet, we are supposed to trust the word of this group of adults, who floated past the crime scene and did NOTHING and asked Nick NO questions? First of all, why didn't ANY of them ask Nick WHY he was supposedly looking for this lost cell phone, so far DOWN RIVER? Think about it, if you lose something you've been carrying, logically you BACK TRACE your steps where you've already been in an attempt to find the object. You DO NOT explore areas where you have NOT YET PHYSICALLY BEEN! The boy's were located FAR DOWN RIVER, in an area that Miu's group HAD NOT YET BEEN! When you consider this fact, it makes Miu's lurking and stalking around the boys highly suspicious because it's clear the lost cell phone could NOT have been in that area. So this 50 yr old man with snorkeling gear comes into the boy's personal space for what reason? Miu could've have snorkeled anywhere on the river, but he choose to lurk around the boys for an extended period of time. That is creepy as hell and given that he essentially refused to speak or verbally engage with them while doing this, makes his actions even more unsettling and threatening. The boy's instincts that Miu was a potential predator whose actions were not only antagonizing, but menacing, were 100% spot on! Miu refused to leave, despite repeatedly being told to "go away" by the boys, thus unnerving them even more. The human protective instinct increases adrenaline, so they raised their voices and yelled at him. THE WORDS THEY YELLED DO NOT MATTER, it was a NON-VIOLENT manner of attempting to get him to leave! For people who think the boys were bullying Mr. Miu, remember, they did NOT seek him out. Miu is the one who was lurking and stalking around THEM! Just consider this, IF Miu had done this to a group of teenage GIRLS, what would you consider to be acceptable words or actions by the girls, to protect themselves and try to get the creep away from them?

[@Piat65]

Clueless

[@piitii8141]

the voice of blackness

[@MaxwellsDemon9]

do you enjoy that tinfoil you wear on your head.

[@CALB2009]

@@MaxwellsDemon9 How about the devil horns on your head? GMFB

[@sherryhosier2787]

He. In. Shock. Old. Man. Could. Have. Died.

[@jasminefrichtl806]

People can have a good & bad side to them just cuz someone is usually nice doesn't mean they don't have a temper at times. Many Molesters & domestic abusers will act nice in public & put on a total act & in front of guest then suddenly change can switch to anger & other bad emotions-the killer & his friends seemed relaxed like nothing just happened which is weird the fact that they kept floating on the tombs and having a swim right after that is odd even if they didn't feel safe to go back and help the wounded they should have been in shock and want to go home and not continue to relax and Float on tubes- may friends phone could of had his phone hidden & lied to her about it? I wish the cops mention were they traced his phone. Cuz it least we will know that piece but either way both sides over reacted & should of called cops to resolve things

[@bhowish]

How many times did people tell him to get away, walk away and he wanted an excuse to kill people

[@yolandawilson6619]

Agree

[@allanfranklin9615]

Do you think he woke up that morning thinking "I am looking for someone to kill today. All I need is an excuse"? Not likely.

[@CarrieV9]

Miu bragged about the Glock his wife gave him for Valentine’s Day on his social, which was filled with aggressive, antisocial posts. Miu was a Romanian soldier, according to his friend. Miu stabbed 5 people. Not peaceful.

[@belayaget]

5 aggressive, antisocial people

[@skibee421]

@@belayaget nevertheless, they had no weapons

[@CarrieV9]

@@belayaget No one was impressed by the three little itty bitty scratches Miu had on his body, probably received when he ran into the woods to get rid of his weapon

[@JL-zn7me]

The lawyers are terrible. The witnesses are worse. All I keep thinking about is … MUI- “ I heard someone got stabbed and I fit the description “( to the police) “ Someone took my knife and tried to attack me “- ( to the nurse). - he hid the knife after seeing others guts hanging out of their bodies and dying. - he NEVER told anyone he was attacked or said he had to defend himself. He should be imprisoned BUT… so should the teens who started this tragic event.

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

You can't mob someone and then complain about how they defend themselves.

[@keelysmeltser]

@@SmokeStackLightning.you cant antagonize people into an altercation just so you can pull a knife and act out your fantasies

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

@@keelysmeltser That's not what the tape shows. And the mob has been discredited in open court.

[@alkr1832]

@@SmokeStackLightning. cant you see him going to the group and touched one!! how do you react if a stranger comes at you this way when you were 17.

[@SmokeStackLightning.]

@@alkr1832He thought they had his phone and he didn't scare them at all. I wouldn't gang up and surround him. I'd probably help him look for his phone. What would you do?

[@asherhouseman6838]

He's as calm and peaceful as Mack the Knife.

[@smith4407]

OJ + 3

[@johanniemeyer9579]

Why didnt the police who was stationed close by not addressed alcohol use on river?

[@Grammie-hk5vb]

Why would he not be screaming in pain from his injuries to his good friend.....

[@katrinak7394]

Because he wasn't injured or scared and then lied to the cops. That is where he really fked himself. Hopefully he keeps losing weight in prison all the way down to 0 lbs.

[@jjgloom]

Kind of strange. You would think he would atleast inform his friends and wife he was attacked and had to defend himself, yet he stays quite and plays dumb with police

[@triciac1019]

Because he is not a child.

[@jjgloom]

@@triciac1019 An Adult would just be honest and tell his party and police he was attacked and had to defend himself. Why start lying if you did nothing wrong?

[@pulvrizr99]

​@@triciac1019No just the one he murdered

[@Unbridled13]

Still waters run deep. You never know what is going on in someone's mind when they are quiet.

[@ToLoveIsToLive89]

She gets very nervous and irritated when being questioned by the prosecutor. Probably because she knows her friend is guilty 😉

[@mariepascale6921]

Il y a de quoi être énervé, on ne comprend rien aux questions.

[@ohokayofficial]

Good point.. she almost gets defensive for some questions 😂 when it’s trying to paint the defendant as a “good person”

[@ramblinmic6324]

Guilty of self defense.

[@UlfhedinnIronLord]

Ever hear of stage fright? It overloads the nerves and causes anxiety for people regardless of the context of the situation. Thanks for attending my Ted Talk.

[@kimcrouse3236]

She said she didn't see him walking back to his crowd, said she was busy looking at the crowd and he 'just appeared' WOW

[@skibee421]

what were these women on?? none seem too alert, or even realize their surroundings. puff the magic dragon, lived by the sea 👅 💨

[@colleenbilly]

Her yepping and smiling irritates the hell out of me. Now her saying the wife said Nics in trouble. She is trying to divert the correct information of what happened to suit their supposed interpretation of the scene. Shes a liar.

[@AzothDee]

That is not correct. Ariel went to Nick because his wife said he is in trouble. On testimony his wife said the same thing. They obviously saw a scuffle some 20 meters from them.

[@yolandawilson6619]

Someone said she slept with him. I agree. I see something unusual about her. She's smiling for Miu

[@quidam53]

Mui used unnecessary force. All he had to do was to walk away…..unless he wanted to hurt the children.

[@samjones3106]

Children? If you really want to exaggerate why not say infants.

[@susanziemek7355]

The questions are strange!! Omg

[@HeatherBDentureDiVa]

If you knew anything about court they have to explain every details to the jury like they don't know anything about it giving them all sorts of details

[@SusieQ1971]

I must be blind but at 12:30 where is Miu? They are saying he has a knife in his hand then the lawyer says his on his tube paddling with his hand. All I see them filming is a guy standing up in the bushes with something in his hand just standing there but I don't see Miu in the river on an innertube. Am I just going blind?

[@mediaterrorists8969]

The fact that nobody in Nik's gruup didn't rush over there to help tells me a lot about his friends..... They all need to be seriously looked at for at least accessory and/or other atrocities in the area

[@JohnMoran]

That's a ridiculous accusation.

[@Piat65]

His friends evidently know his behavior and didn’t get involved nor did his wife

[@jamesbroomfield7799]

​@@Piat65but if you're with a group of friends and one of your friends commits a serious crime and you know about it and you try to leave with him without saying anything or calling the cops and turning him in, they could hold you liable for being an accessory. It happens to Young African-Americans all the time. There's actually many African-American young males in prison right now for stuff that someone else did and they were just there and that's a fact. And it's because of situations like this, their friend did something and they didn't want anything to do with it and they didn't want to tell on their friend and they didn't want to tell what happened because they just didn't want to be a part of it and they still got in trouble because the way the prosecution looks at it is you're either a witness or co-defendant. And by the way they made that video trying to point out that other person on the river bank trying to act like that was a suspect speaks volume. It shows in my opinion they all conspired to try to point out somebody else and try to lead the cops in the wrong direction and make it seem like it was somebody else that did it. I don't believe them for 1 minute that they didn't know what he did how did they not know. It's not like they're away on the other side of the park. There were a few hundred feet away and saw all those people hurt and stabbed and they want to act like they don't know what happened they knew exactly what happened

[@skibee421]

@@jamesbroomfield7799 their foreigners.! they could care less

[@creepystack1090]

Never seen a more even 50/50 support for each side, this case is tragic and really testing the legal system.

[@megc7020]

He looks like an alien in the video he is being videotaped on the side of the river