Apple River stabbing trial: Nicolae Miu's interrogation video [FULL]

The interrogation of Nicolae Miu was played in court at the Apple River stabbing trial.
In the video, he told Hart he defended himself. He said the tubers had weapons - a smaller knife and a kitchen knife - and he took the smaller knife from them when they attacked him.
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[@momof1576]

As a lawyer- never ever talk to the police. Lawyer up. If you do make a statement do not lie.

[@goll58]

What do you think the verdict will be? From an attorneys perspective if you don't mind sharing.

[@fatee5069]

Guilty. Lmao

[@JG0en187]

I tell my son this every time we watch first 48. I don’t think he’ll ever be in trouble but even so everyone should know at least that much.

[@mu0FFpu0FF]

He's done. He spoke to the lieutenant

[@jasonstocks6460]

From one lawyer to another, i agree 100%.

[@ChopChic1]

At the time of this interrogation, he must not have realized everything was on video because he's lying like crazy.

[@surfingthedarkness]

Yep, he didn't realize there were videos

[@RobbieAmerican]

No, he knows. They tell him it's recorded & videoed. He just believes he's smarter than everyone

[@Bob-jv4yf]

How do you know? Were you there?

[@Cuddlefishluv]

@@RobbieAmericanthey told him the events at the river had been recorded? Or, are you referring to them telling him the interrogation room was audio and video recorded? If you were referring to the river, I wonder if he thought it was a very distant view that didn’t catch what was actually said and they wouldn’t see him walking up with that knife clipped onto his pocket? Otherwise, it just makes no sense that he knew before that interview that it had been recorded because his lies just fly in the face of everything that went on and was videotaped. He’s just really stupid and thinks everyone is gullible I guess. Crazy. Anyway, have a great day!

[@surfingthedarkness]

@@RobbieAmerican we're not talking about the interrogation video, the video of the fight

[@thomaswebb2584]

He lies to his own group, doesn't identify himself to police, and acts like he wasn't a part of it!

[@christina5kids16grands]

Consciousness of guilt.

[@asmallbitchybanana]

Disassociation

[@jeanP924]

This is the time I think being silent is golden and get a lawyer asap

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

He was very discombobulated!!!!

[@dcsj6837]

Doesn't change actual facts.

[@chaoswitch1974]

Oh wow. This guy is a pathological liar. It's going to land him in prison for life.

[@Aboma2012]

Hmm no he defended himself against 13 people. If he lied about few things so what ? What planet do you believe in where it is ok to attack person?

[@Hiiyena]

@@Aboma2012guilty of reckless murder by a jury of his peers. Bye

[@chaoswitch1974]

@Aboma2012 I can tell every single person who didn't watch the trial and didn't see the video slowed down, played moment by moment upon cross-examination. Nor did you hear the sober witness testimony from a completely unrelated party. You don't get to just decide what truth is and reject every piece of evidence that conflicts with the reality you've created. That's not how truth works. I know what the video looks like. I've watched it a handful of times, and yes, it does look that way until you have it broken down for you moment by moment and hear the totality of what transpired. I guess you know more from watching a video than a unanimous jury who has all the facts 🤷

[@primal_god]

@@Aboma2012 so now it's on top stab and kill multiple people if you get punched unfairly? His drunk ego wouldn't let him just walk away

[@amadeojacohinde3630]

​@@primal_god well yeah, that's basically what self-defense means. How did he know they where not gonna kill him or do some severe harm before he responded? Watch the video and understand this is a normal response to gang beating threat inside the water.

[@Galloway278]

35:00 “they pointed the knife at me. They pointed the knife at me. Both boys pointed the knife at me.” Lies. This man has lost ALL credibility with me.

[@sarapierce4086]

I think he could have been found innocent if he didn't lie. And did he not see the kid who was recording?!

[@MrTeeglesworth]

🤦‍♀️this trial is nuts. My original thoughts were, how could this be self-defense... That turned into, Maybe this was self-defense... Now, it's not looking good for this guy at all! I will be shocked if he's found not guilty. I've been shocked by trials before...I guess we have to hear everything first. Smdh.

[@asmallbitchybanana]

He clearly has no knowledge on how the justice system works in America. How the system is not sympathetic to those that lie, and fabricate. Just for him lying, he should get comtempt of court should he keep this up in front of judge.

[@Galloway278]

@@MrTeeglesworth I have watched so many trials, as I’m sure a lot of us have who are interested in the whole process. But this one has blown my mind. I feel like we spectators are incredibly divided on his guilt or innocence. And now as more information comes out, it’s looking even worse for him. I always felt he could have walked away and he wasn’t as innocent as he wants us to believe. After watching the interrogation- wow. There was more to the story after all.

[@jmhelite4094]

we all seen the video regardless of the lie... he defended himself.

[@terrywhite5762]

I'm just guessing this is before he found out that there was video of the incident

[@commiehunter733]

He knew it was filmed... they told him several times... the kids acted like wild animals and this man defended himself

[@autumngrubb1468]

@@commiehunter733I agree!

[@NoNoSquare]

​@@commiehunter733defended himself from what? He's an ordinary murderer.

[@steelsteez6118]

You must have an IQ of 200. Congratulations.

[@michaelhollis764]

I think he is drunk.

[@billb.7346]

This guy decided to lie about the knife. He knew he had his own knife and probably forgot someone was recording the entire thing.

[@SSS-ie6mh]

Almost as if he was scared.

[@genericamerican7574]

@@SSS-ie6mh he didn’t seem scared to approach them and threaten them. He was so scared he didn’t listen to them yelling at him to go away?😅

[@genericamerican7574]

@@SSS-ie6mh why wasn’t he scared enough to wait for a lawyer. If I was scared I’d wait for a lawyer. If I was weak and scared of getting attacked by a mob of drunk teenagers that he said were “fighting before” he approached them then I would not go try to grab their tubes and ignore them asking me to go back to where I came from.

[@Spyhydro]

Those punk kids started it. Than that one dude screaming is this real life. Y'all got way to comfortable talking shit to people on the Internet. Some people are crazy an can hurt you. Key example. Y'all gotta stop living thru your phone​@@genericamerican7574

[@masterBong1]

funny NOW everyone (the boomers) is against him but you were all defending him a couple uploads ago 😂

[@cc92873]

36:27 “If I’m a child molester and your children, then you shouldn’t be drinking” Wtf? I don’t get the comparison there. This man is just so bizarre.

[@mikahattunen4502]

He means that drunk people talk out of their asses, that's what he means. That they shouldn't be talking so lightly and making accusations about random people, so they shouldn't be drinking because they are stupid that way. Miu is guilty af though.

[@Christmas-dg5xc]

"You must not be children, because you're drinking, so how can you say I'm a c___ m___," I think was his point. I'm still trying to figure it out.

[@jp-ju1iv]

I think he keeps bringing up the drinking because they are underage. It has nothing to do with being a child molester or how the teens were attacked, but he thinks by throwing it out there they will be labeled as bad kids or "deviant " supporting his narrative.

[@Aboma2012]

@@jp-ju1iv they were evil grown teenagers not kids. They attacked him and provoked him

[@mikahattunen4502]

Ok.. first time he talked about that I was sure it was the case I mentioned before. But he later repeated his comment at the moment and now talked also about the age of the drinking people. So it seems he is strangely equating underage drinking and childmolesting, very creepy.

[@michaelredman9599]

why lie about the knife

[@fatee5069]

Cause he knew he was guilty. Lmao y'all keep thinking this wasn't calculated...

[@dickfitswell3437]

Because he doesn't know the police already have a video and already watched it. He started lying as soon as he tossed the murder weapon. He will go to prison for life. He was the adult and was morally obligated to walk away and he didn't.

[@fatee5069]

@@dickfitswell3437 exactly. He knew exactly what he was doing.

[@mummaki5169]

It all was a lie. Some can be remebering due to stress but 90 percent of that was untrue

[@mummaki5169]

Sorry remebering wrong

[@dropdeadDeb]

He has lied about everything an innocent man wouldnt have to. Its almost like he wanted to hurt someone that day. Drunk and nasty.

[@SS11660]

I wondered why he would go into a group of kids who were intoxicated in the first place??? I'm not sure about the lost phone story.

[@jiyanverse3199]

You the type to raise nasty drunk teens like the ones in the video ?

[@Thecatnamedkiwi]

What did he lie about?

[@jrbaeronz9840]

Many people switch personalities when drinking. I've known a few in my time who would be normal people sober, but psycho when pissed and someone annoys them.

[@Kiev-in-3-days]

Innocents don't lie? 😂. He killed someone in a state of self defense. Of course he lies at first! He doesn't want to go to jail. He knows people like you will say he did it on purpose.

[@gillhoward7975]

Thank goodness there was a video.

[@graceslick705]

Yes, I agree....Video helped the DEFENSE GREATLY!!! NOT GUILTY!!!

[@dillwidit]

​​@@graceslick705you got to be kidding. let me guess you have to be a Trump supporter. im right aint i? admit it.

[@fuuuuuwahhhh5276]

​@@dillwiditTrump derangement syndrome has you talking about politics in a video that is unrelated to anything going on within our government. Congratulations. A politician lives in your head rent free.

[@commiehunter733]

It proves this was self defense

[@warmlantern0000]

​@@dillwidit plz don't bring politics in it. But he's GUILTY. This man could have left but kept coming back. Hid the knife Many lies ECT.

[@Miss_SeeBee]

Several lies!!! No one had a knife but HIM!!! He ran from the scene instead of calling police for help. He's guilty regardless if the kids were immature assholes! All these people in other threads saying he is innocent is such a crock if shit! He's a murderer plain and simple and lies plain as day!!

[@sam-te1fu]

Yes he is definitely a murderer. But, I would say he's a pretty unusual individual. The manner in which he killed makes me think this was not his first time. He's also fairly intelligent and has been playing to a conservative sympathy for stand your ground and self defense, even though it's ridiculous to invoke either in this case.

[@rosarodriguez8122]

Wrong! But you are entitled to your opinion

[@sam-te1fu]

@@rosarodriguez8122 What exactly am I wrong about ma'am? If anyone had the right to stand your ground it was the kids when Miu stormed over without saying a word and grabbed their legs and tubes preventing them from leaving. That's on video, him making the first physical contact. By your tribe's logic, the kids would have been fully justified to slice him up like sushi the second he laid hands on them... but they didn't because they aren't sociopaths!

[@unitedwestand5205]

the jury agreed, hes guilty af, now he'll spend the rest of his life behind bars, just like any other criminal

[@Miss_SeeBee]

​@@sam-te1fu😂😂 well said!

[@CWA69143]

The 2 male's with the knives are his alter ego's!!! He straight up lied!!! I was in the middle, but leaning towards him being guilty, but this just confirmed it all!!! He is a lying psyco!!!

[@CONCERNEDcitizenforever]

Yup! He shows absolutely 0 remorse! Instead you can see all he cares about and is thinking about is how HIS life could be ruined and how HE can lie and manipulate his way out of this! Glad he’s going to prison for a LONGGGGGG time!! 🙏🏼🙌🤗👮‍♂️🚓🧑‍⚖️❤️💙

[@CWA69143]

@@CONCERNEDcitizenforever absolutely I couldn't agree more!!! I think the jury made the right decision!!! Maybe had he done thing's differently, I could see the self defense, but unfortunately there were multiple thing's wrong with the story and situation!!!

[@jolliepoussey9]

@@CONCERNEDcitizenforever Miu is a SOCIOPATH!

[@vicki3132]

He started lying as soon as police put him into there car. He said “I heard there was a stabbing “ he acted like he knew nothing and wasn’t involved,

[@luffyduffy7817]

Didn't he tell them he resembled the suspect as well?

[@SirViving]

Language barrier... he didn't know the kid died, so he was saying he heard about that. He was also obviously in shock and reacted in self-defense without thinking, so he didn't even know what he did with his instinct to survive.

[@gothgammy666]

@@SirVivinghis English is PERFECT 🤡

[@effortless4588]

Buddy hes speaking english perfectly fine here and to the police and "i heard" hes an engineer he has to know english ​@SirViving

[@deemstars]

@@SirViving 7:17

[@jacquelinerobin7732]

He lied. He had a knife. He stopped their rafts with his body. He stabbed 5 people and killed a young teenager. He need to be held accountable just cause kids drink and smoke a little pot doesn’t make them innocent but it also isn’t a reason to stab and kill people. He was drinking too

[@northhallbabe13]

Thank you. The only person so far with a sane view point on this. None of those kids deserved to die or be injured over talking shit.

[@reyreycolortorch9678]

I heard this river attracts a bunch of rowdy people both kids and aged alike. This Nicolae should have backed the f up and let the kids be - read the room (river), fool. You’re out-numbered and these drinking kids are like a pack of testosterone dogs. You were also told by your friend to forget the lost iPhone; it aint your lost treasure to retrieve. The kids should have shut the f up; instead they also kept it going, f’d around and found out; when you bully and assault somebody, death can happen. You roll the dice, you might encounter an adult dude who is also drinking and lacks judgement, won’t back down, and is carrying a LETHAL WEAPON. Smh at all these people. Perfect storm of stupidity. All this said, bye lying Nicolae.

[@dumbbuckets2668]

Except you're leaving out the part where they physically assaulted him.

[@jasonroy1890]

Oh he stabbed them because they were drinking and smoking pot. I thought he stabbed them after he was assaulted multiple times.

[@GierigerFisch]

@@dumbbuckets2668🤡

[@ashleypierotti8941]

where’s all the people defending him now? saying he couldn’t speak english 😒

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

Here I am

[@marymac789]

He moved to the US when he was 15. Whoever 'they' are, they said he spoke five languages. Let's hope one of those was English. Defense just trying mightily to make him old, fragile and stupid. How'd that work for them? GUILTY as sin!

[@marymac789]

@@aleksakosanovic7922 He said that he spoke FIVE languages. I guess that English, the language of his adopted country and where he had lived since he was fifteen wasn't one of them??

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

@@marymac789 No,no one is arguing that. I am arguing, whatever he said to the police,has nothing in common with the video where he was attacked

[@MegsyPato]

His English is perfect!

[@caliwm9860]

So he lied right out of the gate

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

the video shows everything

[@ravivandersalm4586]

​@@aleksakosanovic7922it really doesn't

[@thisisgettingold]

​@@ravivandersalm4586Dude has been through some shit in life and just got fed up. He is guilty of murder and assault but everyone who got stabbed could have walked away before they caught the blade. So...

[@ravivandersalm4586]

@@thisisgettingold ok don't care.

[@kathleenbarth8388]

So if this man claims self defense why is he telling so much lies

[@keli449]

So why did the young adults lie?

[@mu0FFpu0FF]

​@@keli449about getting stabbed?

[@michaeltuffin5002]

@@mu0FFpu0FF. Lied to publically call him a paedophile. To call him a raper. To say they were scared.

[@Taurustings-s7s]

Exact reason the teens lied. They’re scared

[@travisturner5294]

​@@mu0FFpu0FFabout him being pedo

[@surfingthedarkness]

That's a whole lot of lying (and also he tried to flee) for someone who only defended himself

[@dsoule4902]

He was afraid the mob was going to hunt him down. Even come to his house.

[@DirtyCoastFishing]

@@dsoule4902so when the sheriff has him in custody and he tells the sheriff "o someone was stabbed" hes still scare of the mob 😂😂😂

[@phoenixmistertwo8815]

He was mob attacked regardless, and he knew he would be railroaded by sensationalism from any jury that is to come.

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

Who pushed who in the water and who kicked who in the head?

[@marymac789]

@@aleksakosanovic7922 I don't know. Who??

[@dalenelson7161]

He knifed a girl killed a boy was asked to stay away from said teenagers lied about the whole thing. This is NOT self defense

[@grimeythree4294]

Crazy you even have to explain that to these psychos

[@warmlantern0000]

3 ppl held their guts in their HANDS . 3. He gutted them. Smh 5 ppl altogether.

[@masterBong1]

I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING BUT EVERYONE IS SO QUICK TO DEFEND HIM!??!??

[@geraltsjaskier]

He was literally ganged up on in the video.

[@grimeythree4294]

@@geraltsjaskier you don’t get to go into a situation knowing you have a weapon then escalate the situation and then decide it’s self defense after you start poking and gutting people 😂 once again crazy that needs to be explained

[@MistyMtnMan]

This dude was drunk and got his ego hurt when they were calling him a "molester" He Couldn't stand the fact they were making fun of him. I fully believe he hit that girl first and that's what kick started the whole attack. He could have just asked about this "lost phone" a few times and walked away. Never once in the video do you see the kids take his snorkel or have knives of any kind. He certainly didn't "twist the knife" from the kid he disemboweled. That kid never had a knife. He has both hands on him the whole time! This dude was drunk and pissed and didnt want his ego bruised by getting his "ass kicked by a bunch of kids" like he said in the interview. This is a very strange turn of events but this guy had all the time he needed to leave but he stuck around and now someone is dead.

[@ManChan-w5p]

Dr. Grande emphasizes with Nick Miu .

[@MistyMtnMan]

@@ManChan-w5p huh?

[@johnpapadopoulos906]

And he wrongfully assumed they had the lost cell phone

[@MistyMtnMan]

@@johnpapadopoulos906 Exactly. Everyone feeling sorry for this dude try and put yourself in the minds of the kids where some drunk older stranger comes up to you, not coherent, acting suspicious then stabs your friends. If I was a kid I would have been pretty intimidated especially with the fact that he wont leave after they repeatedly scream at him to do so.

[@juliecrane9647]

Exactly my thoughts. As the DA in the Ahmaud Arbury said in her closing argument, If you are the aggressor you cannot claim self defense. Hoping this jury sees the truth like the Georgia jury did returning their guilty verdict.

[@rec.thecritic]

This dude didn't think there was a video, he lied so bad , now do you believe self defense... no freaking way, his a liar all the way

[@0wnter1d1ck]

Just because he lied doesn’t mean it wasn’t self defence

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Your logic is ridiculous. Nic was obviously scared sh¡tIess about his word versus the word of all those young adults that had already loudly lied about him and defamed him from the start. I can understand it. All _ACTUAL LOGICAL_ people can. He even says very clearly after the officer says something about him acting in self defense: “Yeah, but this is Wisconsin,” and “people who defend themselves end up being accused of being this and being that...” He obviously thinks that if he were to tell the truth, and nothing but the truth, he wouldn’t have ANY chance at all to be seen as innocent under the law. He thinks if he just tweaks a few minor facts, it will give him the edge he needs. I truly feel for the guy. He acted out of panic here. I wish he didn’t revoke his right to a lawyer here, and waited until he talked to one first before choosing to gamble by talking to the detective and fibbing. The video exonerates his actions, ffs.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@0wnter1d1ck Exactly. The video proves it was very much indeed self defense.

[@masterBong1]

ahhahaha where are all the BOOMERS that were defending him in the other videos??? 😂😂

[@AweSomo84]

​@@anti-ethniccleansing465 i think you need to rewatch the video

[@SJoiseyKid]

"Oh no..." Dude knew what happened. He just didn't know it was recorded.

[@MartinAston00]

“Drinking Beer all day” huh ?? Testified only had 2 Beers ! Seems to be the claim for everyone that drank that day, but his testimony today really ruined his self-defense !

[@adrianrichards247]

At 5:10 he’s smiling about his work ……he’s just knifed 3 people killed 1 and he’s smiling…..in what world is that normal .

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

5 people but yeah he’s cold blooded.

[@Adiounys]

At 30:50 he is smiling when talking about his heart attack. Some people just smile in awkward/uncomfortable/stressful salinations...

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

@@Adiounys and some people smile when they have zero remorse for hurting others. I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that.

[@Adiounys]

@@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566 and there is not way to tell the difference.

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

@@Adiounys oh you can examine the person’s behavior and other actions and get a pretty good idea of why.

[@sierrannomad]

52 is not that old, some of y'all be talkin' like this is the rural dark ages. 60 is the new 40.

[@Biker65]

I'm 58yrs old in the gym 4 days a week and solid. Generation X baby

[@orcuttcat]

totally

[@autism-is-unstoppable8017]

And 17 year old football players aren't little kids

[@440-fishermandrock8]

​@@autism-is-unstoppable8017u definitely have autism 😂😂

[@sierrannomad]

​@@autism-is-unstoppable8017 you didn't get the memo? Childhood has been extended to 25.

[@storiesneedears]

The defense is trying to make a huge deal because a bunch of drunk teenagers can't remember two years later exactly how things played out, yet here he is telling lie after lie straight away.

[@floridafishingandfitness5735]

Teenagers drinking is illegal. You must be mistaken.

[@Ignacio-hv5yl]

​@@floridafishingandfitness5735how is that relevant to the stabbings?

[@brucemackenzie4952]

It is relevant because they were out of control from drinking.

[@mikealinewallgren4985]

And he says he was drinking All day

[@mikealinewallgren4985]

Sos murder​@@floridafishingandfitness5735

[@sciencenate]

Mind boggling that some folks think this was self defense! People just don’t like kids or what? I’m all about self protection but this was aggressive and caused deaths. He knew he was wrong n that’s why he lied so much. I pray he does time to create some justice from the teenager that will never live a life at all, thanks to this idiot.

[@grimeythree4294]

Those people are just delusional young people haters it’s kinda odd to see😂

[@jrbaeronz9840]

Problem is in the US with the gun/weapon culture, /fortress mentality, the bar for recognizing genuine self defense, has been lowered to a point it seems, that being shoved around and shouted at by young adults, with no weapons, and not really being in any way in mortal danger, (a few were just pushing him to get him away) warrants you being able to kill some one or slice them up,- even a girl ! In this case, the guy barely had a mark on him after being in a situation where he ' feared for his life' ! but look at what HE left behind. I bet if all these people defending him had a brother or sister on the receiving end of his actions, their opinions would be totally the opposite.

[@lorib604]

⁠@@jrbaeronz9840many have died from mob mentality violence. Someone hits their head on something, and that’s it. He could have drowned, anything. Not saying he’s innocent, but definitely not 1st degree murder.

[@jrbaeronz9840]

@@lorib604 True, but they definitely weren't out to kill him, just get him to go away. The water was only about knee deep, with a muddy bottom, and I think he would have been in more danger if he'd slipped in the bath at home. The operative words are 'could have' , and if anything had happened, I'm sure those young guys would have sobered up quickly and helped him, unlike Miu who just walked off and lied about everything from then on. He could have waved the knife at them and warned them, and I'm pretty sure they would have backed off (I certainly would, as would 99.999% of adults) but he didn't. etc etc. Just a sad event all round. Hopefully, a lot of young people will learn from this.

[@indirastone7382]

His supporters are pathological liars, too.

[@tanyamccomas1110]

The blood was from the kids, not bleeding from his ear

[@BeingConformed]

Good point. I hadn't considered that.

[@SteveMacdaddy]

I thought so too.

[@petergllewellyn]

100%

[@cc92873]

Exactly what I thought too!

[@truenorth6999]

You see in the video after stabbing the young man in the abdomen his hand has blood on it. Video doesn’t lie.

[@lexiinspo1861]

If you were the victim, you would have absolutely no reason to lie. Unless you were scared of the consequences to YOUR ACTIONS.

[@veronicasawyer77]

💯💯💯

[@sierrannomad]

Facts.

[@Dasloth92]

Exactly. 100%

[@pgman5416]

I was a victim of domestic violence from my ex. I lied to the police to protect her and out of ignorance and shock. I pushed her down, as she was hitting me and she took my phone out of my hand that I was trying to use to record her for evidence. When she fell I took my phone back immediately but did not touch her, and then started recording. She called the cops. When they came, I didn't tell them the most accurate version. I failed to mention she was hitting me, and that she took my phone out of my hands.. They twisted my story so that It was that "she was damaging my property so i went up and attacked her over property". At that point I couldnt go back. Also, they wouldnt allow me to use any supportive evidence of her leading up to the "violence" to prove self defense because in a DV case, it's up to the prosecutor to bring in events leading to the charged act (in my opinion this is absolute corruption). Mind you, she had many, many times beaten me and I did nothing and took bruises for it. 2-3 of the times she grabbed me by my shirt collar, and repeatedly battered me so bad it ripped my shirt completely off. The one time I had previously called the police, she told them that a bruise on her arm, which she got from herself from hitting me with her arms as she missed her swings, were from me. There are many reasons why innocent people "lie". First, there's the SHOCK of not fully processing the reality of what is happening. Then there are other reasons that do not come from actual guilt. The best thing for anyone, ethically guilty or innocent, is to NEVER speak to the police. They're in the business of story telling. With that said, idk if this guy is guilty or not. It seems like he may have stepped out of the self defense area a bit. In my case, it was a simple push after taking multiple hits and a direct attack at me while i was trying to just stay back and record. But I'm just commenting on your comment about how "innocent people don't lie". That's completely incorrect. But im now a convicted DV (reduced). So... there's a lot that people don't know about the system.

[@snakedoctor6969]

Yup glad theres some sensible people in this disgusting cesspit of a comment section.

[@lilpinksliplee7310]

This is the 2nd time he and his wife have gone rafting down the Apple river and he promises her it would be a peaceful trip. I want to know what happened last time that he had to promise her that this time would be a peaceful trip. His own wife suggests that he not go snorkeling over by another group even before he left because he could potentially be considered a creeper, but he did it anyway.

[@OutlawRippa]

Good call!! Few are connecting these dots. She ditched him too after the arrest

[@virtuaguyverify]

Yup this guy is evil and trouble

[@suziq900]

Who stabs like that. Gutting someone, like he himself had with his surgery. Wtf I got a bad creepy feeling when he showed his stomach. He did it over ond over

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@OutlawRippa What exactly do you expect someone to do after their spouse gets arrested? There’s nothing you can do at that point - they’re in police custody.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@suziq900 What are you talking about? He did one quick poke against any person who physically laid hands on him. We saw it on video, ffs. Surgeons make MUCH bigger incisions to do through repair work if it’s necessary, which is why a couple of them had large incisions.

[@Whyistomatoafruit]

He’s pretty calm and nonchalant for a guy who just stabbed a kid to death and disemboweled another a couple hours ago…

[@visiteurvisiteur7301]

He is a monster. Can't believe some people are defending him.

[@flashgordon10001]

As a former police officer, always read murder suspects their rights in a casual way and hope they talk without getting a lawyer! JACKPOT! This fool told "his story" and lied about EVERYTHING. Always get these villains to talk without a LAWYER!

[@vinny2555332]

As a former military police, you're not correct

[@alanboody7004]

His demeanor and the way he refused to say anything or just leave to me seems like he was waiting for an opportunity to use the knife. He even took the knife out while they were yelling at him to leave.

[@headleygrange6205]

Yes. We know. Thats why the only word anybody with half a brain, guilty or innocent would say is "lawyer". We all know the set up.

[@NY-152]

@@vinny2555332go on

[@Auxius.]

@@vinny2555332 What's a military police, and what is their conduct with interrogation? torture first ask questions later?

[@dormiacrouch1905]

They NEVER Had ANY KNIVES!!! HE WAS The ONE Who HAD KNIFE!!!!!

[@dickfitswell3437]

But he doesn't know that they already have the video. His character is being tested and they are seeing his true self. He knew he was in serious trouble when he tossed the knife. A innocent person would have immediately called police and told them that he was just attacked by a group of kids and he used a knife in self defense but he didn't. He started immediately to cover up his crime when he tossed the 🔪

[@thenamelessking495]

we get it dump.^^

[@monsuephillips]

​@@Joe-sg9llThe whole POINT is that he TOSSED it a innocent person would have NOT tossed it.....

[@monsuephillips]

​@@warlok9The video shows ONLY him with the knife and all witnesses said that HE was the only one with a knife but nice TRY of deflecting......

[@QAlba1074]

@@monsuephillips stop assuming....

[@melodieshimon]

His wife didn’t want to go because she knows he’s a alcoholic and always has issues when drinking . Self defence he hit girl first .

[@TinelleReay-cm4ou]

She said Nic has been upset at their group for not responding to his nonexistent cries for help - that’s why she won’t read the documents.

[@petergllewellyn]

Girl had hands all over him before he hit the girl, I would have done the same had she put hand on me.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

There’s no actual physical evidence proving that Nic hit the girl first! The only people claiming that are the ones that have reason to lie, just like they lied about all the names and accusations they made against Nic right before that regarding him looking for “little girls“ and being a graper, and just like they repeatedly lied on the stand, trying to pretend they weren’t physically assaulting Nic, etc. And funny how you aren’t any different- making wild assumptive claims about Nic and his wife that there is no foundation for.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@TinelleReay-cm4ou Except Nic was trying to flag his people over when he was raising his hand to signal to them, right before the physical assault began on him.

[@daymanerosa]

There's video of him hitting the girl

[@amor797]

If the kids didnt record everything. "People" will continue to portray him as a poor old fragile man assaulted by a gang 🤡

[@carlosb1]

one of them even said he did not see him recording children .He said he just said it for no reason Lol

[@Aboma2012]

Oh am sorry they provoked him and attacked him several times

[@trevorsole3933]

He ran up on those kids aggressively, laid hands on them first, and refused to leave them alone when asked to​@Aboma2012

[@LuckyCharms777]

But that’s exactly what he is, a poor old fragile man assaulted by a gang. That’s exactly what the recording reveals. 🤦‍♂️

[@user-py2fx5wp1o]

People have seen the video and are STILL trying to portray him as some poor old man 🙄

[@chichodormi4732]

Shouldnt have lied.

[@Thecatnamedkiwi]

Yeah this is going to change a lot... this is bad. This whole situation is fucked

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

He was scared sh¡tIess about his word versus the word of all those young adults that had already loudly lied about him and defamed him from the start. I can understand it. I think we all can. He even says very clearly after the officer says something about him acting in self defense: “Yeah, but this is Wisconsin,” and “people who defend themselves end up being accused of being this and being that...” He obviously thinks that if he were to tell the truth, and nothing but the truth, he wouldn’t have ANY chance at all to be seen as innocent under the law. He thinks if he just tweaks a few minor facts, it will give him the edge he needs. He doesn’t know that there is video of the incident at this point. I truly feel for the guy. He acted out of panic here. I wish he didn’t revoke his right to a lawyer here, and waited until he talked to one first before choosing to gamble by talking to the detective and fibbing. The video exonerates his actions, ffs.

[@masterBong1]

funny NOW everyone is against him but you were all defending him a couple uploads ago 😂

[@chichodormi4732]

@@masterBong1 im not against him, but he shouldnt have lied there. Hope he stays out of prison.

[@BoxOfOranges84]

He ruined himself by talking to police without talking to a lawyer first. A good lawyer would have told him that getting attacked and punched by multiple people, even without a knife, could have been enough to mount a self-defense case. On top of that, a few of the kids were a disaster show on the stand. I don't know if it was the drunkenness (another reason he should have kept quiet), but his arrogance was another reason to not speak without a laywer

[@erikarenae0306]

“I’ve been drinking beer all day, no water “

[@AFloridaSon]

And his fan club are quick to blame all of this on the other side drinking.

[@jackson9282]

What an opening fucking statement lol. Admitting he was delusional.

[@shadow6024]

The amount of people I seen say that he was sober. Can’t if they are trolls or just dumb

[@ronaldturner4849]

Can't use "I was drinking all day" as a defense when you've killed someone!

[@lilaworley8935]

The defense keeps focusing on everyone else drinking... But even this man's wife said on the stand that he drinks every day after work. I know a seasoned alcoholic when I see one. This man disgusts me.

[@shawnyost5196]

He’s a bad liar .

[@What.The.Chell_lol]

I feel like it's so scary because I think he's a very, very, very good liar. There's no indicators when he's lying but thank goodness there's video tapes so we all know he's lying . For some reason I'm so sensitive to that type of thing and usually I could always tell when somebody's lying but watching him there's almost no indicators at all.

[@SSS-ie6mh]

Honest people tend to be bad liars.

[@SSS-ie6mh]

@@What.The.Chell_lol Usually we can tell when people are lying when they are caught unaware by the question. But if someone answered the same question with the same lie at least one or times, no one will be able to catch it because they can answer remembering the answer they gave earlier and there will be no indicators of lying.

[@giigity]

So are the state’s witnesses

[@What.The.Chell_lol]

@@SSS-ie6mh we must be watching two way different things . He admits to lying himself. Also, I'm talking about many factors, most importantly , body language . There's many different ways to tell deception and I'm not about to sit here and explain them all to you but feel free to look it up or something, or don't .I don't care . You're the type of person that will stand by your opinion even when the facts are right in front of you; so this has wasted more than enough of my time .

[@Brandespada]

The big lies concerning the knives is a serious blow to his credibility. That's an admission that he knew that he overreacted to the kids and that their perceived threat was not that high.

[@I_Stuck_Ur_Mom]

So for you to know that he knew that he overreacted, you must know him personally and had a conversation with him and he told you that he overreacted? Because people also lie when they're nervous or under a ton of pressure in hopes that he's not going to spend the rest of his life in prison. Which is exactly what happened. It's like when a little kid gets in trouble, they will lie, lie, lie to avoid consequences. It's human nature. Just like the kids lying too... Like them saying that "A crazy man that was fully dressed came out of the bushes and stabbed Isaac." Or every one of them not remembering which hand he used to punch the girl. Or not remembering if he used an open hand or closed fist... Or the girl that allegedly got hit couldn't remember which side she got hit. She also said that she deleted the video on her phone of the incident. Or saying that he said that he was saying that he was looking for little girls, but that's not on film, nor do you see him say barely anything to the punks... Yet, the brats didn't get in any trouble at all, even though they ganged up on him and assaulted him multiple times... This man got screwed with the charges he got. The kids got what they deserved...

[@LuckyCharms777]

A drunken group of people surrounding and shouting at him is enough of a threat itself. And he didn’t slice anyone until after they pushed and hit him. That being said, a jury won’t like his lies.

[@gcow8328]

He probably figured the video of the entitled pice of shit kids surrounding him would even it out.

[@laneswerve]

@@LuckyCharms777 exactly what I was thinking... another person who thinks they can casually talk to police and go home that night. Lawyer up people! They are only there for one objective - evidence against you.

[@LuckyCharms777]

@@laneswerve Just saw that he was convicted on Friday and is awaiting sentencing. All because a group of drunk young adults bullied him, and a physical altercation started by a privileged female thinking she had the right to put her hands on him. 🤦‍♂️ “Nicolae Miu, 54, was convicted in state court on Thursday of first-degree reckless homicide in the death of 17-year-old Isaac Shulman near the Apple River. He was also convicted of four counts of recklessly endangering safety and one count of battery. Miu originally faced the more serious charges of first-degree intentional homicide and first-degree intentional attempted homicide.” -CNN

[@bobbyroberts8523]

So the video shows him coming over to kids reaching into there personal space.... That is why this is not self defense. This man thought the kids had the phone he allegedly said he was looking for. He should of walked away from those kids and let them float on by.

[@keli449]

Because some of those kids I think the person recording was talking to him and saying we have your cell phone that she's walking over there really fast because the current is against him that's when it all started the guy never said he was looking for a little girls even the guy that videotaped testified he did not hear him say little girls he just thought he was looking for little girls and then they accuse him of being a rapist and a pedophile those are harsh words of a serious crime

[@jacobgates1986]

He did try to walk away it's in the video. They followed him pushing him into the water several times, punching him as he tried to walk away.

[@chriscanzanese5063]

@@jacobgates1986- that didn’t happen, and he pulled the knife out before anyone was touched.

[@tanthony298]

Exactly hes the one who started anything physical but the small brains cant seem to comprehend it cause of their beef with todays youtb

[@VSMOKE1]

No he walked away 5hen the surround him and jump him​@@chriscanzanese5063

[@MrAlliecaulfield]

Approached teens first. Grabbed one of the kids leg as he's he was sitting in his tube. Dropped his goggles himself. Pulled a knife. All this is in the video. He lies and lies. Guilty

[@keli449]

Pulled the knife way after from the adult who knocked his goggles from him!

[@momof1576]

@@keli449he was the aggressor . They told him to leave them alone. He wouldn’t. They yelled at him and he took a swing at the girl. He then got hit and came up knife in hand. He was the instigator and I can guarantee he set this up .

[@carolynsumners4915]

@@keli449 it was his knife, and he hid it along the side of the river

[@ConcernedForCanadaAndUSA]

Had has the knife out when the two women were confronting him. That's how the one girl was stabbed and the other one was punched in the face.

[@johnpapadopoulos906]

He ASSUMED they had the lost phone and harassed them instead of walking away

[@tntcyclespdx640]

"If I'm a child molester, and your children, why are you drinking around me?" ............ that is the weirdest defense Ive ever heard. LOL

[@aClownBaby-]

Check his pc

[@freyasworld5024]

The man scared shitless. He was just attacked by a bunch of drunken dumb ass teens. The teens were looking for a fight. Nicolas did walk away the kids followed him and surrounded him and attacked him. The kids got what they had coming

[@papapoodo6685]

You're *.

[@davida1977]

not well expressed, but his point was, you are accusing me of a crime and yet you are breaking the law by drinking underage. Just a matter of pointing the fingers and arguing back and forth, which led to the whole confrontation instead of name calling and letting people go about their business

[@christievanderlaan7575]

@@freyasworld5024are you watching the same thing I am?

[@quirch43]

detective: “Your snorkel was recovered”… Miu: “oh, thank goodness”

[@michaelredman9599]

he lied and said they had a knife and he put his away earlier...conciousness of guilt....im in law school....it may be excessive force

[@dickfitswell3437]

If you listen closely he tells us what happened. Familiar with the term "embedded confession"? You should check out Peter Hyatt if you have not heard of him. He is an expert on statement analysis and his most popular video is the Madeline McCann case. This guy trains all the alphabet agencies and local authorities on statements and analysis of 911 calls and missing kids cases especially parents first public statements and he is never wrong. Highly suggest him if you are into that side of the law

[@vinny2555332]

No one cares

[@michaelredman9599]

@@vinny2555332 what are you talking about?

[@Gabitronia]

​@@vinny2555332 You obviously do, if you had to say something.

[@BoxingFishingGuy]

In hindsight, leaving when they told him to leave would have been a good idea. But he didn’t leave because he wasn’t in fear of his life

[@Brandespada]

He didn't leave because he had the right to stand his ground (water, in this case)

[@georgezee5173]

There was no reason to fear for his life UNTIL they started to get violent towards him. What's your point?

[@Jax52reg]

He was raging angry! He was the aggressor…..he started the violence by punching the young girl. He was told, repeatedly, to walk away!

[@BoxingFishingGuy]

Well he did not leave and stood his ground and now he’s on trial for murder so that didn’t work out well. Sometimes fights are unavoidable. The women were screaming at him to leave, were aggressive so it did not take a genius to know it was time to gtfo. Even if he was completely in the right and it is self defense, look what it cost him. That is my point. He also made no effort to diffuse the situation. His initial story is full of lies and no one can dispute that. What about when he walks towards them and checks to make sure he has his knife by touching his shorts. He testified to that in court. Doesn’t sound like he was afraid for his life

[@kipkapper3014]

exactly.

[@carolynsumners4915]

It is terrifying when I see what he has done to those kids and just walks back to his group calmly and says let’s go…OMG!!

[@alabaster4263]

Terrifying what the kids did to him

[@jaidenhuntley2476]

@@alabaster4263he walked up to them and assaulted them, dunked them in the water. That’s illegal. Now they didn’t need to retaliate but him pulling out a knife on kids was a sissy move. He’s unhinged he deserves to be locked up for this crime.

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

@@jaidenhuntley2476let’s be careful not to exaggerate. What he did was bad enough not to make it seem worse. He ran up to the teen’s tubes stopping their progress down the river and he put his hands on at least one of the boys in a violation of his consent. They reacted and told him to leave them alone.

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

@@alabaster4263not really being asked to leave people alone isn’t exactly life threatening. If he was so offended he should have walked back to his group and called the police.

[@perfectlyharmless]

Unbelievable how casual and chatty Miu is, having killed another human being and destroyed countless lives only a few hours ago. No remorse. No conscience. No soul.

[@marymac789]

Yes. I noticed that too. Chatting about himself and how intelligent he is etc. That also struck me as pretty cold and nonchalant about it all. Almost as if the river had not run red a couple of hours before. He also lies pretty easily - they just rolled off his tongue. He did come up short for a bit once he found out that there was a video of the whole thing though his expression barely changed. Accustomed to lying it's face off.

[@BrandonWestfall]

They destroyed their own lives for attacking him.

[@DaYooperRev]

​@@BrandonWestfallThat's the most ridiculous comment. This liar went to the kids and started the whole thing. 🤡

[@barrypalmerjr.1661]

The man didn't die

[@lynnvon8758]

​@@BrandonWestfallhe said he touched them first he started it

[@ThatsCrazyRight]

Lies, lies, and more lies. It's on video dude.

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

It's on video how they yelled at him, harassed him, pushed him, kicked him in the head and then attacked him more. 20 of them.

[@ThatsCrazyRight]

@aleksakosanovic7922 He still lied. So, I don't know what your point is that relates to my comment. He lied. That's a fact. Your comment has nothing to do with what I said.

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

@@ThatsCrazyRight So what if he lied?The video of self-defense is clear as day. He could've lied because he was under stress

[@ThatsCrazyRight]

@aleksakosanovic7922 Next time I'm stressed, I'll just lie. You're off your rocker lady.

[@aleksakosanovic7922]

@@ThatsCrazyRight Most of the people do lie under this amount of pressure.And what he said and what happened are 2 different things, and he can be charged with lying and trying to hide a weapon, but not with murder when it was self defence

[@francesmoore5789]

The video shows up all his lies.multiple lies in this interview.

[@keli449]

Yeah, it shows what transpired in his defense.

[@asmallbitchybanana]

Hus attorney is so fantastical to excuse this dude’s murderous and drunken spree, while being a hypocrite about everyone else being on the river celebrating and drinking.

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@asmallbitchybananaMurderous and drunken spree 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@dillwidit]

​@@keli449in his defense?? his lies about who had the weapon?? you also cant resort to violence simply because of being called names. he also started the violence by punching a female in the face. anyone thinking this guy was justified seriously needs to seek mental help themselves.

[@tonimiller3922]

He did lie but being afraid will make people do all kinds of things. The video was enough for me. He should be found guilty. We have a real problem with the total disregard for decency, respect for others. It was deplorable how they were treating him. Very sad they someone died but there are consequences to behaving in a manner that is disgusting. Everyone lies. He should have lied. But that don’t make him a cold hearted murder.

[@maryiced3931]

If you are fearing for your life you would yell for help to your friends.

[@masterBong1]

funny NOW everyone is against him but you were all defending him a couple uploads ago 😂

[@marymac789]

Not one of his 'friends' came to his 'rescue'. They could hear and SEE what was going on and yet not one of them came to help. I wonder why that was. THEY KNOW HIM and KNOW what he gets up to. He is not a nice person. Why should they get involved in his steer excrement? The friend, who supposedly owned the alleged phone, even told him to forget it.

[@tomfield4062]

This guy is a psychopath. Yes, the kids were jerks, but if being a jerk was a crime we'd all be doing life without parole. He's also a huge liar. He got on the stand and lied and lied and lied and lied. He had selective amnesia over salient point after salient point. He couldn't remember a goddamned thing. How convenient! Now he's GUILTY and convicted. Well deserved. He got his feelings hurt, and killed because of it. The jury saw through him.

[@senatorbrogle]

I have never tried to instigate a lynch mob on anyone

[@tomfield4062]

@@senatorbrogle Alright, everyone except you.

[@LorraineMorsch]

He could not handle any type of disrespect or perceived insult, so just attempted to kill all those kids! Crazy!

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

Especially women. In my experience Romanian men don't like being disrespected by women.

[@abrahamthomas904]

Yes exactly !

[@Salamanca56-i8j]

What kids are you talking about? 22 yo in USA are considered kids? 😂

[@strafer8764]

Stupid take

[@abrahamthomas904]

@@strafer8764 pretty accurate actually. Watch the case

[@storiesneedears]

Working hard already to set up a self-defense story. This man is not stupid. He knew what he did and knew that unless he could sell self-defense, he was going to be in deep trouble.

[@momof1576]

I suspect he set the situation up

[@Lolcow43]

Was it not self defense

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

He was scared sh¡tIess about his word versus the word of all those young adults that had already loudly lied about him and defamed him from the start. I can understand it. All people with actual critical thinking skills can. He even says very clearly after the officer says something about him acting in self defense: “Yeah, but this is Wisconsin,” and “people who defend themselves end up being accused of being this and being that...” He obviously thinks that if he were to tell the truth, and nothing but the truth, he wouldn’t have ANY chance at all to be seen as innocent under the law. He thinks if he just tweaks a few minor facts, it will give him the edge he needs. He doesn’t know that there is video of the incident at this point. I truly feel for the guy. He acted out of panic here. I wish he didn’t revoke his right to a lawyer here, and waited until he talked to one first before choosing to gamble by talking to the detective and fibbing. The video exonerates his actions, ffs.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@momof1576 What a joke. The only person that “set” ANYTHING up was the ringleader who filmed the incident “for the culture,” Cockfield. You know, the guy who baselessly yelled out accusations of Nic of the worst things imaginable a man can do, to intentionally instigate a mob reaction to bully and assault Nic, just so he could try to make a video that would go viral and get a bunch of “likes.” The young adults are the ones that should be prosecuted for this shit, not Nic.

[@skibee421]

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 bla bla bla

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

He’s lying alot!!!! 1. He never said a word 2. He absolutely *DID HAVE A KNIFE* 3. They were taunting him, but never once held him there! Infact they were asking him to leave. Obviously Nick didn’t know he was being recorded.

[@Brandespada]

Who are they to order him to leave? He had all the right to stand his ground (his water)

[@sam-te1fu]

@@Brandespada You need help. I'm not kidding, you need to talk to someone. Many employers will cover the cost of therapy for you anonymously. I would look into it for your own and everyone else's safety, and there's no shame in getting help. If you don't have a job, there are also ways of getting help free of charge.

[@Brandespada]

@@sam-te1fu If you want to replace stand-your-ground by shit-your-pants laws, the public space will be taken over by criminals. The Apple river is a public space and nobody, I repeat, NOBODY has the right to order him to leave. It's you who need help.

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

@@Brandespada not in that state he didn’t!! Learn the law before you preach at me please!

[@Brandespada]

@@cali.girllivinnnevada8 Read this:"On the other end of the legal spectrum, some jurisdictions impose a duty to retreat. A duty to retreat generally means that you can't resort to deadly force in self-defense if you can safely avoid the risk of imminent danger. If that's not an option due to being cornered, pinned down, or facing great bodily harm, then you may be authorized to use deadly force in self-defense.". in other words, even if Wisconsin does not have "stand your ground" laws, in the event that you are cornered you have the right to exercise self-defense.

[@luvurobert]

I wish people would actually watch the trial before defending this man! Justice was served today!!

[@racerx192]

Guilty or not, after you ask if the wife and pup is okay, wouldn’t you ask if the kids are okay and say I never intended to hurt anyone… I was defending myself.

[@AweSomo84]

Thats why he didnt Warn the kids and stabbed multiple time and 5 people .. crazy

[@MrWeepies]

By the way, it’s no coincidence that psychopaths are pathological liars.

[@indirastone7382]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@wildgr33n]

lmfao is told a bunch of kids were stabbed and 1 is dead 'was that because they fought each other?' this fuckin guy. seriouslyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@altheadawn2531]

He's a sick demon

[@teresawalker2340]

You can't strike first then yell self defense . His friend testified that Mui hit Maddie.

[@francesholliday5427]

which friend? I haven't seen this

[@LovernotafighterFL]

Yeah and even if it wasn't a hit hit, he did enough to be confrontational. Not a smart guy.

[@smashkh8314]

Why is he lying tho? If he was innocent.

[@yoinky]

Cuz he's not a lawyer, meaning HE has no idea if he is "innocent" under the law. Remember, he didn't have the privilege of seeing video of the event from multiple angles, or 90 hours of witness testimony. He was IN the event. We all on KZbin need to remember the internet and its ever flow of information is NOT real life.

[@elliwildbird]

Fear

[@bambilackner]

Innocent ppl lie all the time, go try an interrogation room. Almost everyone that sits there starts off with a lie, the kids all lied, they changed their testimony 3 times.

[@krissy0894]

Scared of spending his life in prison for self defense.

[@storiesneedears]

Consciousness of guilt. Trying to already set up his self-defense nonsense.

[@gribble2979]

The killer didn't realize it was all caught on camera and the world would see that every word he uttered was a lie.

[@hollyperrin7353]

Well, dreads was pretty clear that he was on camera.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Luckily it doesn’t matter, because the video vindicates him for what matters, and that was that he acted in self defense. I’m not concerned at all with him panicking afterwards in a trauma response to what had happened.

[@Fatguylittlecoat1996]

I seen the video that’s all I need . He shouldn’t have been interrogated or charged at all . The teens and other adults get off Scott free while the victim gets tortured and imprisoned.

[@masterBong1]

WHERE is everyone that was defending him in the previous videos????

[@jamesedwards4830]

​@@anti-ethniccleansing465Vindicates what genius?WTF ru talking about?Some girl is yelling at u so u decide to start stabbing everyone!What video did u watch bozo? Ru high?

[@winterbear6290]

He lied through this whole video just based off the recorded incident. What he did admit is knowing they were "young kids", that he had a day of drinking with no water, and that he thought they had the phone he was looking for. Sounds like his intention was always to confront them. How people claim hes not guilty is beyond me, beyond me meaning insane.

[@kimiak6886]

His thought pattern on the whole ‘if you thought I was a child molester, should you be drinking alcohol around me’. What?!?!

[@kellidanielle3688]

This right here. 100% There's the Kids group, Muis group , and one right behind the kid's group. If he's just a jerk, or a creep, absolutely!! but why pedophile? Why child molester? Why pervert. I'm fairly confident that the general consensus are careful with those terms because of the weight and damage it could do. Snorkeling for a phone had a more Sinister reason. if you know, you know.

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

It’s no wonder why they thought what they did. I think the guy has a hidden dark history that hasn’t been discovered. Maybe since his DNA is now in the system we might get lucky and solve a cold case.

[@JustinRCampbell88]

I think his point was if he was the terrible guy that they were saying he was then why are they drinking and having a good time? They should be running or calling the cops

[@kellidanielle3688]

@@JustinRCampbell88 " I think his point was..." That's conjecture. It also implies that it's up to those he might molest to control their behavior around him, which is nutjob level reaching. However, all of this is conjecture and not applicable

[@caliwm9860]

He also lied about the phone! His friend testified he told Miu not to bother with the lost phone. He also stated he was drinking beer all day and no water right at the beginning of the interview. Why no blood alcohol test?

[@michelemarie7777]

Why not publish his soc sec number🙄

[@loganmannke9023]

If he was “intoxicated” that would mean he wasn’t in his “right mind” y’all can’t have it all 🥴

[@Gabitronia]

​What does that have to do with a blood alcohol test? ​@@michelemarie7777

[@kikilola2954]

@@loganmannke9023 It doesn't work that way. Being intoxicated doesn't protect you from the consequences of the law.

[@jayAh635]

@@loganmannke9023 Not true at all.

[@bgzwlz5119]

Unfortunately, the address he gave will no longer be his address. Yes, you ran away after you gutted the guy! He didn’t want his group to go over and approach the kids because you killed one of them! He had a knife but then he couldn’t remember if he gave it to someone else, or put it into his truck? Liar! They are not the only ones that are going to find out who you are, the whole country is going to find out who you are! This guy admits to drinking a ton, but then blames the situation on underage drinking! It is mighty big of him to not be blaming the police for what he did!

[@westie0113uk]

The house was sold in Nov 23.

[@lesleyhughes3174]

So scared for his life, he walked straight towards them, smirking and smiling. After he attacked 5 people, he hid the knife, couldn't get to his truck quick enough. On with his jacket, his hat etc. His idea to leave.

[@THXx1138]

He actually continued floating down the river immediately after. So no, he didn't even rush to get to his truck. Obviously he was never in mortal danger at any time that day. Nobody set out to hunt him down in retaliation. He was able to brutally stab 5 young people and casually walk away.

[@jamesc8722]

@@THXx1138do you really think getting jumped by a mob of drunk people in the water can’t turn deadly? All it would take is a glancing blow to the temple and your unconscious face down in the water. People drown all the time not being attacked…. If he’s shanking people after the attack stopped, ok thats going too far. But if your choice is stabbing your way out or being attacked by a drunk mob with a high possibility of drowning, what would you do?

[@mackenzyegarcia4588]

He had the knife pulled out before they even touched him and everyone is missing that fact to try and scream self defense ​@@jamesc8722

[@anthonyz548]

The folks defending this dude being upset he got caught as opposed to upset he's a lying killer is wild.

[@TaylerJones]

Peoples response to this case sickens me. Regardless of what the DRUNK TEENS were doing, he should have left immediately and walked away. If you watch the video, he literally randomly walks up on them and starts feeling around. He appears completely inebriated. How is stabbing teenagers and killing one of them ever justified? How is it self defense to stab more than one of them??? Like you made your point already? Yet people defend this dude as if this level of violence is justified. I dont think the teens were in the right by any means but to say this guy wasn't literally waiting for something like this to go down is ignorant IMO.

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Most of us know that even in self defence, a migrant killing a middle class kid will NEVER Be taken as self defence.

[@shadow6024]

Yea like I’m all for self defense but this is just not the case. Dudes evil and got so many supporters it’s sad

[@anthonyz548]

@mrman-yj3bn "migrant"? wow uhh I didn't see it that way... dude slashed up 5 people, where he came from wasn't a factor for me.

[@graceslick705]

The young adults are lying killers also. They should be held accountable for their friends death

[@momof1576]

You know people defend him but he has lied continually. He doesn’t even seem sorry he killed someone.

[@user-tv4cd7dp2p]

He clearly looks upset. These kids attacked him. Regardless, drinking on a river, won't end well

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@user-tv4cd7dp2p 💯 Damn right they attacked him!

[@user-tv4cd7dp2p]

@taramcgavan7654 he never said he was glad someone died, he was clearly upset about that

[@user-tv4cd7dp2p]

@taramcgavan7654 put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Defend yourself or get beat up?

[@jackiemarcy2750]

Thank you

[@tarajohnson679]

You know why he didn’t say anything to anyone in his group? Because he knew he f*cked up and had to think of how to spin it. Little did he know there was a video recording of everything. Guilty as sin. You don’t need to lie about literally everything if it truly was self defense.

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

No shit sherlock

[@LuckyCharms777]

Yes, indeed, he’s guilty of self-defense. Nothing that he said or didn’t say after that doesn’t matter. He’s not on trial for lying.

[@walterkersting9922]

The kids lied at the time and on the stand. The river is a bad place. Even worse when you’ve been drinking.

[@louciphre2803]

​@@LuckyCharms777too bad for him no one with your complete knowledge of the situation was on the jury

[@LuckyCharms777]

@@louciphre2803 Considering everyone that was there lied, the only truthful knowledge of the situation can be obtained from watching the video, which clearly shows the man is innocent since it was in self-defense. The standard for lethal self-defense cases is whether a reasonable person in the same situation would feel the threat of death or severe bodily injury. Many people in that situation would indeed worry about being severely beaten or being drowned, after all they struck him while he was down in the water and also pushed him back down into the water when he was trying to get up. Additionally, he has a bad heart. The only other thing that’s supposed to be taken into consideration is whether the person instigated the incident, which I don’t think he did. But let’s assume he did, obviously nobody feared him or thought that he was a threat. He didn’t initiate physical contact, instead it was the girl/female who grabbed and pushed him who did, which proves he wasn’t a threat since she was unafraid of him. He had every right to stop her from touching him without his consent. But the sexist young men obviously think that females are allowed to touch people without their consent and without consequences, hence they went into white knight mode and attacked him, which prompted him to defend himself against them. The jury obviously let their emotions influence their decision, and coupled with their ignorance of the law, they convicted him, but of lesser charges than he was being prosecuted for because they knew in their hearts that the young adults were to blame, but they weren’t going to let an adult “get away” with unaliving a “boy” and injuring other “children”. Hopefully he wins his appeal.

[@carolclark3713]

I study many cases but this one has really got to me! He is pure evil every step of the way! Every bit of this is lies! Everything he did makes me think this wasn’t the first time. The way he kept his knife low and was striking without warning, casually walks away tosses the knife in the woods, puts on a de guise , passes right by the police and the whole frantic scene to save lives , try’s to leave, then the lies that he is this helpless old man who has never done anything wrong and they had the knives not him. It all makes me sick!

[@floatahhh]

Your exactly the type of mother who would raise those horrible teenagers. You’re gonna leave out how they attacked him and harassed him as a group.

[@carolclark3713]

Watch every second of trial, every interview, all body cam, hear from every witness, then form your opinion. The police interview being shown above he admits from his mouth on the stand was all lies.

[@AweSomo84]

​@@carolclark3713i totally agree with you and i cant understand why people choosing his side ...

[@carolclark3713]

@@AweSomo84I don’t understand it either. I can only think they have seen a small part and they need all the facts. They are going by the number of people and the loud yelling and there is so much more to this. My example is do you choose the school shooter because there are more students than him. It takes one crazy person with a weapon to do a lot of harm. He was the only one armed and walked away without a scratch.

[@carolclark3713]

@@floatahhhI’m the kind of mother who gets ALL the facts before I rush to a decision. I also can communicate without saying mean things to someone I do not even know.

[@JJ-cy3yq]

Stabbing 5 people and using deadly force is not self defence end of story

[@tanthony298]

Exactly why stab the girl why stab the guy in the jean shorts who was trying to break it up I can see if he just stabbed the 1st guy but to stab 5 people 2 of whom didnt attack him at all is crazy

[@fritzjagr5121]

They call it “Apple River” because so many people lose their damn iPhones in it.

[@eloisecromwell4201]

😂😂😂

[@ClintWalker-p9c]

This statement is so underated, good one

[@passivestatue]

Witty

[@Dasloth92]

His whole reasoning of "well, if im a child molester, why are you underage drinking?" Lol....dudes weird.

[@KitKatSukiKat]

Where the fukk did you get that idea?!

[@claudia_acvs1901]

This is literally what he said …it’s a bizarre answer like WTH?

[@surfingthedarkness]

​@@KitKatSukiKatthat's what he explained!!! Twice!! When it was played in court i was soooo confused at first what he even meant but this is what he meant. And what he says he told them. Thaaat's what they may have meant with him seeming weird. Suuuuch a weird reaction.

[@ww897]

@@surfingthedarkness he immigrated to the the US when he was 15 i wouldnt expect everything he says to make perfect sense

[@aimeekova]

@@ww897that’s nonsense my husband moved to Australia from Russia when he was 12 and didn’t speak a word of English when he arrived… he speaks and understands perfectly. Lots of immigrants pretend to not understand when it suits them: this guy is an engineer. He can coherently speak and understand English don’t be fooled.

[@Dove225]

Court he said it was only 15 inches of water and he said it was no way for him to go snorkeling and now he’s telling the police officer that his hands got a little injured from snorkeling and how the kids stole his belongings. He’s not a very good liar he is just caught.

[@senatorbrogle]

you realize bodies of water have varying depth right

[@jakeh3144]

12:48 if I'm a child molester you shouldn't be having alcohol? What the fuck does that even mean?

[@laurachamberlain9591]

I'm not defending him but what he said was, if she was underage, she should not be drinking. Anyone would assume she was of age because it is illegal for someone under age to drink.

[@samflower31]

Right, I mean what does that have to do with anything? Not to mention, I never heard or saw him say anything in the videos, not a single word.

[@yankees29]

He means if they were “children” why are they drunk as skunks. Turns out the kids were all lying about that because the “little girls” were in there 20’s.😂

[@jakeh3144]

@@yankees29 Turns out Nic lied during the entire interrogation lol so I guess that's an even score if we're going based on truths.

[@yankees29]

@@jakeh3144 both sides were lying because they were scared. Doesn’t change the fact he was attacked, surrounded and beaten.

[@blandishblaze]

Lol. I don’t think he realizes it was all recorded. A kitchen knife? Really? What weasel!

[@MsMazatlansin]

How can someone be alone in a room with a killer suspect. Because you don’t really know how dangerous could be. He is not showing any remorse whatsoever. For his crimes.

[@carolinekamarinos2898]

That's bc he's a Sociopath!!!

[@indirastone7382]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@InfiniteZombies777]

“The kid tried to pull my pants down”… “He had a kitchen knife”… such bizarre and creepy lies to think up!

[@jessicasimonet923]

Typical narcissist the lies are preposterous

[@kellyheath9910]

His shorts fell down slightly when he fell in the water. Half of what he says is true and the other half is lies. Twisted

[@michaelredman9599]

stop lying miu---you only had the knife...tell the truth...jury sees you

[@itsbayside6802]

too bad, bet those teens wont act tough with anyone again, you surround one person in a group and ridicule and call him those names you better be ready for whats coming.

[@dillwidit]

​@@itsbayside6802 and the person resorting to violence better be ready for prison!

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@itsbayside6802 💯

[@KitKatSukiKat]

@@dillwiditNot necessarily!

[@charlescarter3595]

@@itsbayside6802 You sound like a cry-baby.

[@Gubastek]

Thumbs up to FOX 9 for posting this, with excellent audio!

[@Tatoebot]

Excellent audio lmao😂😂😂

[@bondeappetite703]

It’s terrible lol

[@Gubastek]

@@Tatoebot Compared to barely audible, with mismatched video time, with background hallway conversations and smoke detector chirps - YES! I'm a modest man, I don't ask for much.

[@ariessweety8883]

​@@Gubastek Lol same👌

[@rockierenaes3716]

Great way to taint a jury if they’re not sequestered

[@bobmurray3229]

Miu is a psychotic blade slayer who is no amateur !

[@KitKatSukiKat]

Lmao. Yes, Dr. 😅😂

[@mcbillygoat]

“They pulled their knives out. They pulled my pants down. They started dancing the electric slide. They started making gluten free muffins. One girl started welding a car frame from a 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1. Thank god I wrestled the machine guns from these young men.” - Nic Miu the Storyteller

[@reborika]

Funny how his story doesn’t match the video at all......self defence my arse

[@jonathanruiz4519]

He was the aggressor, could’ve easily walked away. Name calling doesn’t mean you can stab people.

[@momof1576]

If some random guy came up and tried to tip my tube I’d tell him to get the f- away from me too

[@graceslick705]

Lol...watch the video again. I'm glad you weren't a witness in this tragic event. They ATTACKED HIM FIRST....There's conveniently no video of him hitting the girl....they were the aggressors!!!! And believe me....they weren't scared of this man...as these fit, strong Young adults claim 😉

[@travisturner5294]

They surrounded him, pushed him in the water, hit him, continued to push him when he got up... wtf are you zoomers even on??

[@nunyabusiness1999]

You don't know what led up to tipping the tubes. And yes he didn't have to stab anyone BUT they did more than just name call. He was,assaulted by several people. All of this didn't have to happen on both sides. No one is innocent

[@jackieagnor162]

He started it by running up on the teenagers. He's guilty, he deserves life with no parole. He's a liar.

[@trippplecup1563]

Absolute liar. Ego, pride, will get you. He lost his temper. Now he’s trying to cover his behind. He’s toast.

[@Anthony336Mm]

Wouldn’t you lose your temper if people calling you out your name and smacking you?

[@Bob-jv4yf]

Bot

[@GoRideConnor]

@@Anthony336Mm No..I would try my best to get away from them….he did not. They were telling him to go long before anything physical happened.

[@MrAirnike8]

@@Anthony336Mm He initiated physical contact FIRST. What’s all this they were smacking him? That was after he came over and touched their legs and flipped their tube. People like you work for evil and you’re a sheep….i just can’t see how you’re so emotional you look pass the law and common sense.

[@Gabitronia]

​@@Anthony336Mm Shut up. Do you go around hitting people, because they call you out? If you do, I guess society needs to be worried about you too. Grow up and comprehend this like an adult.

[@sjbonadonna]

They're all sitting there in the courtroom watching this creepy aggressor, lying to investigators without a lawyer, AFTER seeing video of the incident. That's Justice!

[@christina5kids16grands]

His lies are consciousness of guilt, y'all. Plain and simple.

[@TheBrad605]

The kids Didn't have knifes. Only psychos bring a knife to the lake.

[@fromfjord]

Lied about the knife, lied about bleeding, lied about the teens trying to pull his shorts, lied about the second group with madison and riley, yelling at him that he's a pedophile, the video showed they were yelling at him to leave.

[@Brandespada]

He told lies to improve his case, but the actual sequence of events was enough to justify self defense.

[@fromfjord]

@@Brandespada he is seen in the video making first contact by touching the legs of 2 of the teens that were on the tubes floating, the second contact is him punching Madison in the face. Yes the group were full of bullies and they are assholes, but who changed it to a physical altercation? He had time to walk away, multiple opportunities to leave the empty water behind him in the videos shows as much. The group of bullies did not follow him everytime he walked away.

[@marymac789]

@@fromfjord They were teenagers. They were mouthy teenagers. Very mouthy. What teenagers, in a group, have not been? They did nothing to deserve what this psychopath did to them.

[@fluffy2749]

SUCH A DAMN LIAR-HE WAS TOLD SOMEONE IS DEAD AND HE COULD CARE LESS

[@catherinedonnelly1025]

Yeah, he just said “ oh no “ without any emotion at all !!! Then “ were they fighting each other “ like it wasn’t involved at all LIAR 🤥

[@jakeh3144]

Seems like this guy had his mind made up that the tubers had taken his friend's phone. Maybe that's why he charged the tubers in the one video without saying a word and with a menacing look on his face.

[@keli449]

He did say he told the guy about a lost phone and before the video started the kid was lying and saying they have the phone and then video starts and looks like mui is charging him but instead waking fast in the opposite of the current.

[@Thecatnamedkiwi]

He thought they had the phone. 🤷‍♀️

[@johnpapadopoulos906]

He ASSUMED they had the phone that’s why he was harassing them

[@KitKatSukiKat]

⁠Omg. He’s wasn’t harassing them, it was the other way around!

[@alanboody7004]

@@KitKatSukiKat It started with him harassing them and grabbing them as he grabbed the tube forcing them off the tube. He started the whole altercation to begin with.

[@DJZ4569]

He admitted to drinking beer all day on the river and no water. I'm confused at everyone focusing on the other people drinking. Remind me...uhhh...Miu was the one who was first to be violent, no?

[@CeceliaDavis-f2h]

Yes because he ran over to the kids and touch them first and after that those kids really started at him but he touched them he could have walked away.

[@nunyabusiness1999]

Unless we were there we don't know if he was the first. They only started filming after he started touching their tubes. He didn't have the right to stab anyone and they had no right to assult. He needs jail time though

[@CeceliaDavis-f2h]

@@nunyabusiness1999 what we clearly see is he standing a few feet from them,yes we don't see what happened minutes before but he was away from those kids and than for some reason he runs toward them and put hands on one kid, and you telling me that, that was a delayed reaction to something that happened minutes earlier and he could not have walked away?

[@johnpapadopoulos906]

He ASSUMED they had the lost phone and was confronting/harassing them instead of walking away

[@rockierenaes3716]

No

[@MsSista77]

He spoke to police without a lawyer because he's a narcissist. Was convinced he could sell them the self- defense story. Thankfully there's the video that exposes all his lies.

[@Brandespada]

He lied about the knife, but there's video showing that he was punched in the face, that's enough assault to justify self defense.

[@jamie.777]

​@@Brandespadastabbing ppl as they Back away! 5 ppl were stabbed! Not self defense

[@jamie.777]

He TRIIPPED! Was NOT pushed in water! Guilty

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

The video 100% vindicates Nic’s self defense claim, and that’s all that matters.

[@AweSomo84]

​@@anti-ethniccleansing465did you watch it carefully?, he started the attack

[@jamesg8209]

What is he smoking! You are scared they will come after you? You stabbed them all! This man is insane

[@christyblazer3546]

And evil to the core!

[@aceplaysgamesnetwork9566]

Yeah if he was scared they would come after him why did he throw his knife away?

[@poohnsissypooh6631]

The kids did gang up on him, pushed him, calling him names, he says he fears for his life, doesn't mean you get to stab 5 people and kill one

[@estimatedeyes]

Shut up already - they only began razzing him after he rushed their tubes and wouldn't go away. Stop blaming the victims who were bothering NO ONE until this freak came upon them. Look, if any of you bot-trolls had any sense, you'd realise this guy has an authority complex. Teens smoking pot, drinking on the river, probably being rowdy too, that's not okay for Miu. But remember Miu said there were tons of people on the river drinking as was his group, so it's interesting that he focused in on these teens....maybe it was the pot. He mentioned it several times in the police interview. Anyway, he clearly thought the boys had picked up this missing phone and rushed over to the tubes to try and snatch up whatever he thought was the phone - that's when he realised his mistake. There was no phone there and those teens had every right to tell this fckn freak to get the fck away from them. He should have tuck tailed and walk back to his group then. But its that complex of his, and all that beer he admitted to drinking that won't take this sht from some pot smoking teens that won't let him go back to his friends. So he feels around for his knife in the pocket and pulls it out and flips the blade up (that takes effort!) and holds it in a fist at his side, because he knows in seconds HE'S gonna blow and all hell's gonna break loose. In his mind, "Let the gutting begin..." THAT'S what happened. As someone said before, I wonder why he had to promise his wife that THIS time going down the river would be peaceful. And I wonder why she divorced him before the end of the trial - she said she still loved him, whatever that was supposed to mean. We've all seen the videos - we know who put their hands on Miu, and we know why, (he struck the girl after she put her hands on his shoulder to shove him away - a definite trigger) and we saw the aftermath of his rage. No, had he been scared he would have shown those kids the knife he had in his hand and started backing up to get away. That's street smarts. The jokes would have been over and he'd been safe....except for maybe a brandishing a weapon charge waiting for him at the landing spot. But see, the girl touching his shoulder was an invitation, he's just *trying* to call it self-defence now. But don't be fooled - he gutted those boys with precision, a Romanian-style gutting, and then he lies non-stop, on video, straight in your face, no confusion about it.....and here you are blaming the victims. Shame on you.

[@sam-te1fu]

He was the initial aggressor, he approached them and grabbed their legs/tubes without saying a word. I don't know what I would do if a drunk 240 pound shirtless Romanian guy with a chain on, crazy eyes, and bizarre body language came up to me and grabbed me out of no where without saying a word. They were the ones who had self defense rights if anything. He was never justified in any way to do what he did.

[@jeaniepatterson2384]

He’s the kind of guy that leaves his group in a bar and starts crap with strangers. I bet he does that all the time.

[@matthewfoor4487]

For real I'm not saying the teenagers were angels but this dude could of walked away. He didn't.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Except that’s not what the people in his life said about him at all. They said they’ve never had any problems come from him!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@matthewfoor4487 He did start walking away, and the crowd kept pursuing him. You obviously aren’t following the trial at all, and don’t comprehend what the attack video shows.

[@twinklemagic024]

⁠​⁠@@anti-ethniccleansing465Are you referring to the detailed “attack” that Miu is describing in this police interview? You realize that you are defending a child killing, lying sociopath. He stabbed and killed a child…he is egregiously LYING to police…and he has ZERO remorse. What a great person for you to emulate. 🤦‍♀️

[@twinklemagic024]

@@anti-ethniccleansing465​​⁠Many people thought Ted Bundy was a great guy. You really should work on your ability to recognize liars and manipulators…because you seem to a proud defender of sociopaths. 🤦‍♀️

[@sharonloves]

I tell you this guy scares the daylights out of me. This video clearly displays how calculated and evil he is. To lie over and over again all the while concocting a story of being attacked and the teenagers having knives being punched sucker punched in ear from behind by a woman. Showing no remorse and saying he’s happy he took the knife…..! What really? No, dude, Mr Engineer, you engineered your way right into a life sentence. This video shows you are a menace to society and I wonder if you have stabbed people in the past and got away with it. He’s too comfortable with this horrific situation.

[@andreamckay8135]

He doesn’t even ask about his victims!

[@orchids33333]

Some people either have no intelligence and discernment or they are bullshitting along with this guy. Nuts

[@Kevin-q8l4w]

You know I was thinking the same way . But neither you or I were there and he does have the right to defend him self the kids that attack him could also be lieing

[@kwazimokava]

@@andreamckay8135 yes that's a major red flag of his lack of care or emotion towards others almost like a cold blooded killer, he is scarey.

[@lilaworley8935]

Spot on. I agree with everything you wrote.

[@luvurobert]

Why the heck wouldn't he tell his group what happened when he got back to them if he was so traumatized or upset?!! Because he was hoping to just get out of there without them knowing he's a monster.

[@dormiacrouch1905]

They never had any knives!!!! He hit the girl first!!!

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Apparently he was also looking for little girls and is a confirmed raper! Disgusting!

[@keli449]

Not proven! Zero evidence of it.

[@ognir66]

Hits her in the face WITH a knife in his hands and absolutely no marks on her face and none of those kids saw the punch either. No wonder she refused to show up for this shit show. .....total liar.

[@momof1576]

@@keli449actually there’s a video

[@sam-te1fu]

@@keli449 Even if he didn't hit the girl, he was still clearly the initial aggressor when he approached and grabbed their legs and prevented their tubes from leaving without saying a word like a creep. This we have video proof of. The only ones with stand your ground rights were the kids, but they didn't use it because they're not sociopaths!