Apple Watch's New Vitals App - Oura/Whoop Replacement?

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[@ljeans531]

Ok, I'm sorry but your testing is WILDY INCONSISTENT. Not testing the smaller watches because you ASSUME they will perform better based on weight and having the same sensors is not scientific at ALL. ALSO, I would advise you redo your test of the galaxy watches. Because they have a learning algorithm where the sensors improve with time. Your testing periods were too short. The same person must be wearing the watch for at least 7 days worth of time before it configured to the individual.

[@stevewu3]

is there plan to test trex 3?

[@Lasnem-rt1mm]

@@ljeans531 but if you follow Rob's channel, you can see that this a fact base on tests: smaller AWs bring better figures in each tested segments, and probably with same sensors (or at least not with more expensive types).

[@ljeans531]

@Lasnem-rt1mm it doesn't matter, software and so many factors can change. It's not scientific at all. You can't use VIBE or educated wishes to determine data

[@StaszekD-i6z]

Great video, I would like that you could test iOS apps like Bevel, Athlytic and compare it to Whoop!

[@thecooldude4564]

He was doing a comparison without using a third party app. Athlytic looks ugly, bevel is the best 3rd party fitness tracker for me.

[@adambenk0]

Bevel even in free version works great for me. Especially since it gives you score for each night and shows average HRV, Heartrate etc for each night in one place.

[@Mr0MaxiKing0]

Yeeees, please!!! 😃

[@rodrigomsiqueira]

@@Mr0MaxiKing0 These are the apps that most say it's worth paying for it, but I think it's so expensive. I would like a scientific comparison.

[@iskren246]

@@thecooldude4564 Haha couldn't say it better

[@Alex-hv3ir]

I’ve had a fever while wearing my Apple Watch. It detected a +1.9 C difference from standard. It also detected a much higher respiratory rate. Surely enough, the morning after that night I was sick

[@prashant9956]

Which Apple watch do you use?

[@DawidVelCatweazel]

Me too it detected high fever during covid. Apple watch 8

[@mightypine]

This is great. Could you compare Bevel and Athlytic?

[@JiajuChen]

Had multiple fevers, my ultra2 always straight up caught the anomalies in breathing and temp quite well. Blood oxygen is almost useless as aways though.

[@sperin98]

small question please... do i need to use sleep focus in order to track this data?

[@Nicke_FIN]

OURA RING 4 is out! Hoping you are planning on getting one and do a review! 🙏

[@Replicant-by1eh]

Minor changes

[@Trevor_Morgan]

I got oura ring 4 yesterday. It’s pretty cool. This ring will help me to get health reports because I have tattoos on the wrist and Apple Watch is working so bad.

[@Artyom-dx2yc]

Thank for the news, unexpected)

[@massimo.marini]

I’m waiting the new review with model 3 comparison since 11 October when received the email from Oura. I daily check on the channel hoping to see the new review :) I expect better heart rate accuracy!

[@arnouddemeyer795]

While changes are indeed minor, the change in accuracy is one of the main features so an in depth comparison would definitely be at place.

[@BrunoDECOURCY]

I wish you could test apps such as Bevel for example afterwards. Thanks for your videos!!!

[@thecooldude4564]

I am Hoping he does the bevel app looks really promising.

[@Mr0MaxiKing0]

And Athlytic please!

[@Leooo969]

+1 for Bevel

[@carlosmiguel4756]

Please test mi band 9 if you have the time. Waiting to buy one but want to see your review 1st. Thanks

[@guillaumedchampeau]

The Bevel app brings deep, Whoop style data interpretation to Apple Watch. Would be great to have your thoughts/review on it!

[@mangatmangat6520]

You are the only one who does scientific based review and this is great. Awesome work man!

[@Omnicronnn]

Good experiment design. It's great to have researchers for things like this; kudos!

[@jim3318]

I’m sure you’ve heard this from many viewers, but you focus on comparative data and a proper application of the scientific method in testing smart watches is highly appreciated. Great work!

[@85blickwinkel]

Hi there, a big thank you basically to all the videos you make. You put an incredible amount of work and effort into making sure we get good content. Thanks for that 👍 I would like to know one thing. If I interpret it correctly, then the Apple Watch measures very accurately, only the evaluation of the data is not good. That would mean that all you need is a good app that processes and interprets the data. Have you already tested apps like PeakWatch, Athlytic and Bevel or can you make a video about such a comparison? That would be great. Personally, I want to use only one device and not several. In the end it's my Apple Watch, as I also want to use a smartwatch. I would be happy to exchange experiences. Which apps do all of you use? Regards

[@robertjleter]

Please check blood pressure, HRV, VO2max, Sleep stage etc accuracy on the Huawei D2 watch

[@AsimMunir-t7q]

can you test the xiaomi mi band 9

[@jojo-ur2li]

What would do you recommend for tracking progress at home when having been diagnosed with sleep apnea?

[@ameerbarakat3499]

Thanks graet vedio . Sleep tracking mi band 9 💤

[@ZachGottlieb]

Great work as always. Would suggest axing the background music while you’re talking though.

[@k.g6510]

It would be a good idea to have vital statistics during the day. not just at night. such as heart and respiratory rate, stress level, vo2 max, blood oxygen and physical activity.

[@NOT_NativeEN_Speaker]

We already have it all. App name is Human Brain, runs on gadget called Human Being and results are presented to us as Human Feelings ;)

[@weikeong87]

I bought an apple watch ultra 2 and i am a regular swimmer, i would like to ask what is the long term impact on swimming with apple watch ultra? Previously i had two SE watch that show issues like battery draining and watchOS cant reboot after regular swimming. Thanks in advance!

[@Zockshadow]

After seeing your comparison of the temperature readings of 2 apple watches I wondered if comparing the absolute values makes sense since the whole purpose of the sensor is detecting the temperature change over time. So maybe their absolute values aren't really precise since they aren't used. Would be interesting to see if the temperature changes detected per watch are closer or look similar to your findings regarding the absolute values.

[@alessronow]

+1 for the comparison between Athlytic and Bevel. Apps using the same set of data from the Apple Watch & Health, interpreting it way differently.

[@harpalbrar7717]

Plz make video on sleep tracking on series 10 46mm

[@Maliw]

Do I understand correctly that in order to have data in Vitals app you would need to sleep with your AW?

[@SirMopy]

yes. i always charge my series 8 in the morning when i’m taking a shower and brushing my teeth, drinking coffee etc. then i can wear it the whole day and night. when i get up it still hast around 25-28% battery left.

[@gregs9954]

Nice! When are we going to hear about the Ultrahuman AIR and RingConn 2???

[@ethereal-legends01]

Really appreciate the video. Anxiously waiting for the Apple watch Series 10 Sleep detection review and weightlifting ECG as it was really off compared to Apple Watch Series 9. Do you think it could be the strap not adjusting properly while weightlifting? Because you have found an issue in Ultra 2's strap. Thank youu soo much for making videos for people like us who are really into data.

[@thecooldude4564]

The ultra 2 video was a clickbait he knowingly posted the video using a strap that wasn’t meant to be used for workouts.

[@mosesbakst]

What about new Apple Watch + Athlytic vs Whoop?

[@violsk]

Is there any possibility to use a third part app to interpret the data from apple watches as its own is not good?

[@iddobarzilai68]

Can you make a video on different mobile apps for sleep tracking? Both stand-alone and ones that use the information from your smartwatch. Thank you! Love the Channel

[@gloriabirihanyuma]

Wanted to ask the same!

[@lucaspro9709]

Mi Band 9?!

[@melissablick779]

Thanks for speculating on on why the correlation for some data could be lower. Would it be possible to control for the apple watch straps in future tests? Would like to confirm that both wrists have the same kind of strap, and were equally tight.

[@StephanieLuff]

The temperature measurements are accurate enough that I can very obviously see when I enter the luteal phase.

[@LeratoMasigo-r9r]

Bro I still don't get why this is still a discussion point, Apple depends on 3rd party app developers for apps that interpret this data Whoop or Oura like, i use an Apple watch and use Bevel after moving from Athlytic for this specific reason, I prefer the Apple Watch over every other device because for the most part, like you've shown on many of your videos that it is one of, if not the most accurate fitness device. This assessment would have be more fair if you had a Bevel subscription on your Apple Watch and compared that to the Oura and Whoop, lets all still remember that Apple is a Tech company first

[@studiesunfolded]

Why do you use Bevel, a subscription based app, instead of Autosleep (one Tim payment of 6.99€)

[@mosesbakst]

Totally agree. I’ve been watching these videos for the past month trying to decide between Whoop and Apple Watch, but I keep stalling bc I can’t get a scientific comparison of Bevel/Athlytic and Whoop.

[@roger8603]

It would be great if you could review the Athlytic app as well!

[@emmatuxedo2565]

I have an accurate PulseOx sensor that matches the readings at my physicians' clinics. My Apple Watches, including the Ultra 1, have never been close. Always too low. Body temp is also useless. The same for temp on my Garmin 965. It also has a poor SPO2 measurement.

[@mathiasjunnielsen]

Can we get a test of more smart rings? I would love to see Oura Ring 4, Ultrahuman and Ringconn 2 ❤

[@AngeloFalloni]

Do you have to down load a third party app for Apple Watch to tell wrist/body temp?

[@rpvnwnkl]

The comparison between watches has no relevance to the app. As you alluded to, the data is showing variation between devices. There was an assumption built into the experiment that both devices are identical, where in reality, each sensor on each watch will have a manufactured tolerance. The temp variation looks like noise as the readout is more granular than the repeatability and accuracy of the sensor. The blood O2 measurement seems to be much less accurate and have large variation, although I’m not sure how large the true variation is for reference. Definitely a control measurement would help.

[@JohnDoe-cw2yf]

Please do a review of Huawei watch D2, i’m planning to buy one for the blood pressure function but I wanna know first if its other sensors are accurate.

[@mrmiyagi26]

Would love to see a review of sleep tracking on the superhuman and ringconn smart rings. Thanks for your hard work!

[@timmyjag]

Truly appreciate the value you provide to us for free mate, amazing stuff! Very much looking forward to your ”long term review of sleep measuring accuracy” on the Ultra 2 and the series 10 now that there is a new watch OS 🤞🏼

[@vashley6407]

Hello … thanks a lot for all these video really appreaciate your effort… i need your advise!!! I was using a cheap watch recently and decided to scrap it due to the fact that i was diagnose with a lung infection with an oxygen level as low as 64% by the Medical team… i am looking for a replacement watch: i am not too much of an athlete …. I do some regular walk and i wanted to check which would be the most accurate watch to track my health?? Having a bonus of some smart watch basic would be nice…What would be your advice!! IOS or android doesnt matter!! But i dont want to get additional subscription!!! Thank you!!

[@alolsen339]

I guess I am not certain what your fine, detailed analysis means. I wear one watch and as long as that watch provides consistent data and trends over time, even if those numbers were not as precise as one would like, could I not make conclusions in regard to those data/trends? As a non-scientist, I would equate the numbers to a bathroom scale being a couple of pounds off. As long as it is consistent and keeps me informed of trends in my weight management, shouldn’t I be somewhat satisfied? Thanks again for your always informative videos.

[@vaevadem]

Great video, I been wanting an Oura Ring 4 and Ultrahuman Ring Air Compairsion pretty expesive but Ultrahuman is easy to return.

[@DigiDriftZone]

I'm convinced, I ordered a watch 10 to replace my watch 7 that struggles to last a full day anymore.

[@dhauxx]

For me there still isn’t a big enough upgrade from my series 7, so took mine in to Apple for the battery service and they ended up giving me a refurbished unit. So it’s pretty much like having a brand new series 7.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@dhauxx £100 though vs £320 for a trade in

[@EvGBeats]

Did the same. Great upgrade

[@SirMopy]

i got my yearly influenza shot in prep for winter(i need it, coz field of work) late at the evening. before my symptoms started, my apple watch series 8 registered three differences from my normal data during the sleep and a couple hours later i was sick for one day due to the influenza shot. on the next night, all data was normal again and i was fine. 😅 was crazy to see how the apple watch registered my shot.

[@GiuseppeSavo]

Hi, did you check if there is a "wrist condition", if the left or the right wrist are influencing the results?

[@omhhola8844]

What is the vitals app? Is the link to download it, somewhere?

[@gadget5129]

Dude, I really enjoy this channel and find it quite informative. I continue to recommend it to my friends.

[@prochnowja]

Glad to see the temperature data supports Apple's "values within 1 degree C of baseline are common."

[@davidkaplan5517]

The problem with Apple is that it doesn't give you an understanding of what the data means. I want a score like Whoop gives you. How do I know if today is really good vs. good?

[@michaelcuneo374]

What’s funny is that you’re getting that with AW, you just have to think more. Also, you shouldn’t depend on any wearable to determine how you feel.

[@davidkaplan5517]

@@michaelcuneo374no. Because you don’t know what your above average and below average ranges are as your fitness changes. Whoop has all the algorithms that put it into context. Apple doesn’t. And also-feelings are overrated. You may feel badly but still be able to perform.

[@michaelcuneo374]

@@davidkaplan5517 Actually, feelings are quite well rated. What we know about ALL wearables is that none of them are even close to 100% accurate. Moreover, the inconsistency with the accuracy across any given metric makes things even more convoluted. There’s a growing phenomenon of people over analyzing data that isn’t even particularly accurate and using that to determine how they feel and what they do with their day when your body has a built-in system that usually gives you a pretty great idea of that. I used Whoop for a long time and the idea that people are saying, “Nah, I can’t train hard today because the score says I’m tired” when they are not, in fact, tiredis quite sad.

[@Istiqomahuda]

Please review huawei watch fit se and huawei watch fit 3😊

[@zuki92]

Wish you did the same video with garmin ;)

[@AngeloFalloni]

Is this an app you gave to download?

[@jessyvanderschoor8856]

Please test the oura ring 4

[@florinRinRin]

How long until the watch 10 sleep test?

[@grogu360]

The apple watch doesn't support oxygen measurement any longer in the US. How does that affect these results?

[@marklaurendet1861]

Interesting results, not as good as I would have hoped.

[@qwertzuiop875]

I'm very happy with the vitals app. When I felt sick or I had too much alcohol or coffeine or a combination, then I had 1-2 metrics in the red region. Using other HRV analyzers sometimes I felt like they are giving me too much information not trustworthy. I was once super sick, vitals app showed me two im the red region, hrv tracker said I'm healthy.

[@talega1]

Rob "from the future": one question: did you wear the watches (1 vs 2) on the same wrist for the duration of the test? Interestingly, the blood flow into each arm is somewhat different, there is a difference in blood pressure (perfusion) probably less in a young healthy active person like you. So , what I would suggest, if you have time, do a crossover.....switch the watches to the other hand for another couple of days and then analyze the crossover data.....and then, maybe average them? Cheers

[@Mattyboymusic]

I love the attention to data and statistics in this video. Awesome!! I indeed smashed the like button👍

[@jonathandutton8071]

Thanks for the video! My wife has chronic pain and psoriatic arthritis, amongst other auto-immune diseases. We got her a Whoop subscription about 6 months ago, which is quite expensive for us in South Africa, and she has been struggling to action anything from the data the whoop has collected. How are you using your whoop to monitor and action changes to your life for your own chronic condition, based on the data the data you get?

[@Danny.ha0]

Ich frage mich ob der Test zur Fenix 8 noch kommt

[@alej0rz]

Why don't you color the dots for each watch instead of using only black? We can't differentiate between the watches in the graphs!

[@MrMagicFreedom]

Because its both watches at the same time (one watch for each of the two axis). E.g. when watch1 measures 10, watch2 measures exactly 10 too, its on the line. If watch2 measures anything _not_ 10 the dot will be shifted from the line.

[@sahilahmed007]

Please test the ultrahuman ring air

[@george6252]

Same here, but not going to happen. He's been talking about aura rings only for some time now.

[@dino.hurricane978]

Do you plan on testing the Amazfit T-Rex 3? Would love to hear your thoughts on what some people are considering a budget (and in some ways better) version of the Fenix 8

[@anibalj.sarotto3990]

Können Sie ein Blutzuckermessgerät empfehlen? Deine Videos sind sehr gut und präzise. Vielen Dank!!

[@taqwatakwa5881]

accu check answer

[@ziadpatel628]

What do think about the new amazfit trex 3 for heart rate montoring

[@chusti1054]

Oura subscription... No thanks.. Apple and Huawei are both the best health tracker without subscription that you can get 😊

[@heisenberg6481]

Why havent you done the scanwatch 2?

[@ToncaFitness]

Will you be doing an Ultrahuman air ring review?

[@gorkelx]

When Fenix 8 review?

[@joseluisdosreis8999]

what is the name of the app? I couldn't find it

[@jhighlight3930]

an Athyltic App vs Whoop, etc. would be very interesting

[@matheussteinmetz]

Hey Rob, will you do the Galaxy Watch 7 video? Thank you and stay safe.

[@bushfeind3966]

What is that Watch Face which we can see on your Apple Watch Ultra at timecode 00:50?

[@zakariyyagardee8934]

Hi Friend. Please consider reviewing the Colmi smart rings. Really cheap and I read some positive reviews online

[@suinjapan]

Apple Watch will never replace an Oura ring or similar competitors. The whole point of it is having no screen that draws your attention away and being minimal in its appearance. An Apple Watch will never reach that level. Apple would have to publish an ‘iRing’ if it wants to compete. The Apple Watch is an amazing invention, however I hated mine because of having to have another screen that takes your attention away. Sold mine and ordered the new Oura ring recently!

[@EikeRo]

nice vid! are you planning a Fenix 8 video:)?

[@Dr.Kyriazidis]

I remember you back from Apple Watch 4…. The moment I saw the thumbnail I immediately pressed it to see a truly scientific approach and head my way afterwards to the Apple Store.

[@kam6]

When is the Mi band 9 review coming?

[@moore5355]

Ringconn Gen 2 review pleasee!!

[@Ajajambo]

Perfect timing. Thanks Doc

[@map1909]

Will you test the Oura 4? Thank you for the informative reviews!

[@Ayed-yv6xs]

What is the application at 10:15 plz

[@qwer55555555]

it's whoop app i think

[@aashutosh_py]

Comparison between two watches is informative, but using "center line" instead of "best fitting line" still makes more intuitive sense to me personally.

[@reeshavsingh463]

Please make a video on amazefit t rex 3.. i only believe you . Waiting for your review for better clarification

[@davegelink]

How can I change the threshold of what is typical for sleep? Only had 4,5hrs of sleep last night and it still says typical; but I'm not feeling well rested at all.

[@MrMagicFreedom]

It should automatically build up your personal baseline after several days /nights of use.

[@aspectifyful]

Is there an app that you love that can combine data from an Apple Watch, 8 Sleep and other trackers into a single, high quality view of health (with recommendations)?

[@ponderatulify]

Try a third party app, like welltory

[@ggianne]

If readers like my idea put like. Suggestion: when you rate device from 1 to 5 stars change it or add a "TQS Index" (wich is not based on UI, Battery, personal taste but strictly on scientific math of total points, results of sensors accuracy heartbeat+spo2+sleep+exc...)

[@ramblr5900]

Does this work for the Apple ultra one?

[@tommyrq180]

Yes

[@SergSolod]

Do you think that breathing rate measurement is accurate?

[@smilebot484]

he said it was. body temp has a question mark

[@aidanbrennan7389]

Could you recommend a ring with minimum stats, preferably with NFC, and no subscription fees? Keep up the great work! Greetings from Dundalk, Ireland.

[@xlisec]

Maybe Ultrahuman ring

[@george6252]

He's only been reviewing the aura ring for some time now. I myself have the Ultrahuman Air Ring. (no subscription)

[@ethereal_arcana]

Ultra human ring review?

[@labibahmed9710]

apple needs to step up their game

[@rodrigomsiqueira]

I'm an open water swimmer, swim in the sea 3 times a week. My friends who swim with me, always comment to throw the Ultra 2 away and buy a "real watch" Garmin. The difference sometimes exceeds 1 kilometer on the same route. I've already taken it to Apple, they've already changed the device and it keeps making a big difference, having said that, who's right?

[@ZachGottlieb]

Anecdotally I have an Oura ring and an Apple Watch 8 and have always found the Apple temperature and O2 readings incredibly suspect. So you can call it n=2 now ;)

[@PossumBallerina]

I'd love to have an apple watch for the accuracy and function but the very thought of having to buy into the ecosystem (phone mainly) for the watch to function as intended, with all the bells & whistles, is putting me off that purchase.

[@michaelthompson7217]

bruh “i slept poorer than usual the past two nights i must have a respiratory infection i better ‘take it easy today’” is peak health anxiety