Can You Ditch Your Whoop For An Apple Watch Now?

[@BrandonTalbot]

What would you pick - a Whoop or an Apple Watch? Both?

[@ToughLuckStudio]

Replaced my Whoop with an Apple Watch and the Bevel app. It's just as comprehensive as Whoop and more intuitive app UI in my opinion. And its only $6 a month as opposed to $30. Absolute steal by comparison

[@missbutts85]

@@ToughLuckStudioI have the same combination. Love the bevel app and the developers keep adding more and more

[@CaseyCoxx]

@@ToughLuckStudioI had bevel then got whoop. Bevels metrics weren’t even near the metrics on my AW. which was odd

[@zehph]

@@CaseyCoxxCouldn’t understand what you meant here

[@AKinator96]

Is‘nt a  watch also a tech subscription? I mesn most people replace theirs after some years for the new one. So just divide the buying price by the months you owned it and you got your „apple watch subscription price“. I paid 680€ for my last one and had it for 4 years. That would be a monthly price of about 14€

[@Spavlia]

The whoop requires a subscription so that’s an immediate no from me.

[@thekingoflordagames3517]

To be fair, an Apple Watch also somewhat costs a set amount of money per year. Your battery will start to die slowly and you’ll want to upgrade to a newer version eventually. But whoops is way overpriced for what it is.

[@Leooo969]

@@thekingoflordagames3517i have Apple Watch s6 for 2.5 years and battery is still lasting all day

[@sparky1615]

I have both. I like the health monitor with Whoop and the fact whoop monitors heart rate all the time (even while at rest).

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah it’s taking readings every millisecond which is insane

[@chughes1]

One feature I like on whoop is that it alerts me when I am in high stress. That way I can do a mindful meditation when I have a break.

[@BrandonTalbot]

That is nice but there are lots of apps on AW that can do that too

[@humtum8090]

@@BrandonTalbotSuggest one please?

[@Jasonallansmith]

I wear both, and my biggest issue has been accuracy of the whoop while wearing on the wrist. Whoop never matches my Apple Watch or my chest heart rate strap. My whoop will not catch the peaks and tends to lag behind no matter how tight I wear it. I should not have to wear it on my bicep to make it “more accurate.”

[@BrandonTalbot]

I hear that.

[@chriscarpunky]

Mine has been showing sleep apnea detection for over a week. Luckily, no sleep apnea but this was posted a day ago.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Interesting - are you on a beta?

[@Checque]

You could just use something like a polar verity sense or other small HR monitor that hangs on the arm and connect it to the watch for activities like jiujitsu. That will eliminate the need for an expensive subscription if you are only using the whoop for this.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I will definitely look into it.

[@chuckhazzard7295]

Also, the rings as you found do not update until your Apple Watch is reconnected. It works the same when using other devices for workouts such as Garmin.

[@BrandonTalbot]

That’s what I gathered.

[@MikeGRO8]

Again great content! So, are you sleeping with both devices on each wrist after the superb update on the Apple Watch?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I am and thank you!

[@MikeGRO8]

@@BrandonTalbot Justi curious, how did the wear OS update turn out on the day to day usage? are you still tracking sleep with both devices?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@MikeGRO8 hey buddy, yes using them both. But I’m also a human and have some serious ADD. So while I obsess over things, my obsessions change pretty frequently. So I bounce between it and an analog watch from time to time

[@AlejandroGarcia-fi9kc]

Since you have both devices, are there any apps for the watch that display whoop data or widgets?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Nope not yet, but there’s an app called Athlytic that looks and acts very similar to Whoop

[@iamsercanak]

I wish that Apple would consider the hrv more. But still, in my opinion the AW is better for most of the people considering the price of 450$.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah you gotta test for Afib hack.

[@iamsercanak]

@@BrandonTalbot will do, thank you!

[@DeeKay1911]

@@BrandonTalbot Have heard about the hack - does the increased amount of HRV reading not use way more battery?

[@Leooo969]

@@DeeKay1911it doesn’t use much more battery

[@victorsmelo]

Whoop is too expensive and doesn’t make sense with this watchOS update

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah if you sign up for three years or something like that it’s 16bucks a month. Most people are updating their Apple Watch every three to four years. Which you could boil down to a monthly cost and they’d be pretty comparable. BUT with whoop you can get the service for free.

[@zehph]

Apple Watch with bevel is great for me, I have constant heart tracking, enabling the afib detection feature increased considerably the amount of measurements for heart rate and hrv which makes bevel reports even better and more reliable. They should make the more constant measurements a toggle you could use without lying about afib to your watch… 😅

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah it’s a great little hack

[@X.C_]

Hej BT! Thanks for sharing. For as long as I can remember my Garmin Tactix 7 (and before that Garmin Fenix 3HR) cross-communicated with  so I’m glad to know it also does for WHOOP now too. I’m still holding out for the WHOOP 5.0

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thanks for the info!

[@chasekelvington192]

When I do a workout with both on, I’ve noticed that my activity ring will wind back because whoop is more conservative with calorie burn

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@chasekelvington192 interesting - I gotta do a more thorough comparison especially once I’ve amassed the 28 days

[@Po.2013]

it would be nice to remove and add stuff to the activity ring. Maybe put activity load on the ring

[@BrandonTalbot]

I like that idea

[@Po.2013]

@@BrandonTalbot stand ring makes no sense. I need like stress string ring

[@BrandonTalbot]

And for me the stand is a big factor - I edit a lot and so I’m sitting most of the day.

[@richardjablonski5893]

Great video BT!! I have both!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thank you:) and Right on!

[@richxps]

Great video, do you happen to know if Garmin watch workouts also work towards training load and activity rings ?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I wish I had a Garmin so I could give you a definitive yes or no, but I don’t so I’m not sure.

[@JasonRaneses]

Have you tried the Polar Verity Sense for jujitsu? It’s an awesome band that can be worn on the forearm or bicep.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I haven’t but thanks to you I’ve got something to look into!

[@JasonRaneses]

@@BrandonTalbotPolar or Coros’ bands as input into Apple Health end up being similar to what you described with Whoop’s hardware. They get out of the way without a subscription, and now that Apple is adding better support for activity tracking and recovery, it is working out as a decent middle ground.

[@dshpeegz]

I've gone back and forth with these devices so much.. Apple watch in the gym with the Hevy app is what keeps me using AW. It's just so nice to see my routine on my wrist and make changes on the fly if needed. Whoop has been very slow to update it's strength training. If they just let you start a weightlifting workout and add your strength trainer routine while working out so you can see your routine and make changes while working out without having to start stop sets it would be great. BUT if Garmin ever fixes their garbage strength training I'd probably ditch apple and whoop.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I hear ya: if you watch my last whoop video, they added an update to where you can add your strength workout after you’ve finished. Negating the stupid start stop nonsense and still get the muscle/cardio strain score

[@dshpeegz]

@@BrandonTalbot Yeah I've been using that and it's a HUGE step in the right direction. But I'd like to have the Weightlifting workout open and then attach my routine while working out instead of after. This way I can see my routine and make changes while working out if I need to then just hit finish workout and it's all there to process.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@dshpeegz yeah that’s a great idea and I’m hoping we eventually get there

[@muggetsuwow3758]

@@BrandonTalbotbut how does this makes sense in terms of accuracy?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@muggetsuwow3758 I don’t know it would require some testing

[@bradhexumOSM]

If anything whoop cuz I don't use the Apple ecosphere. I appreciate the review though!

[@BrandonTalbot]

That tracks!

[@bengoodey]

Yes.

[@SteveBIRK]

On the connection between whoop and apple health does it work in the inverse way? Like if you wear the watch the whoop will read in the work out data. Also if you just wear the whoop and no apple watch and don't do a workout would it still update the rings?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yes once the Apple Watch was connected again.

[@AGILISFPV]

Not buying a whoop or ANY other product that requires a subscription to use it.

[@chriscarpunky]

I am. However, I turned off my beta updates when watch 11 came out because I didn’t any new updates so maybe it’s part of it. I thought it has been released to the public.

[@chriscarpunky]

Now that I think about my friend is not in the beta and he gets sleep disturbances. Apparently, you need to have 30 days of sleep data before you get a sleep apnea detection and if you don’t have it you won’t get an alert anyway. Are you getting the sleep disturbances? You have to add that to your Apple health on your glances like Garmin to see them.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I was just about to paste that same thing. So for me u haven’t worn it long enough to get it yet

[@sebastianforkuoh2354]

The Whoop Band is very appealing because of the data that they produce. Seems to be better than those on the AW, however I don’t really want to pay for yet another subscription.

[@BrandonTalbot]

It is and it isn’t. The biggest difference is in the sheer amount of data Whoop takes compared to the AW

[@Driji]

Now AW Ultra

[@BrandonTalbot]

👍🏼

[@anuragk8749]

Which Apple Watch Ultra version is shown in the video?

[@BrandonTalbot]

The original Apple Watch Ultra

[@drewsnyder7075]

If you wear apple watch and whoop, does it double the data for your activities?

[@BrandonTalbot]

It shows up as two activities but it only takes one set of readings. So If I do a run and I’m wearing both and I do 30 min and burn 500 calories I’m not doing 60 min of activity and 1000 calories if that makes sense

[@drewsnyder7075]

@@BrandonTalbot it does appreciate the info!

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@drewsnyder7075 my pleasure

[@Vanoual]

A very important question that could confirm my choice of this watch: if I wear my Oura Ring for sleep, can the data linked to the Health app be combined with the data I get from my Apple Watch Ultra? So that I don't have to wear the watch to sleep but it still takes my sleep data into account. Does anyone have the answer?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I believe the two communicate

[@Vanoual]

@@BrandonTalbot thank you Brandon!

[@Nikx-youtube]

I dont like subscriptions. If whoop had a lifetime buy option id get one

[@BrandonTalbot]

Well if you are buying hardware more than once it’s also a subscription - a $800 Apple Watch every 4 years is $200 a year or 16.66 a month which is the same for a whoop membership when purchasing a 3yr membership. We often thing about subscriptions as only this monthly thing but we upgrade our hardware all the time and that has a monthly cost too.

[@Nikx-youtube]

@@BrandonTalbot its not about the costs. Its about the fact that if I buy a subscription based product I know that ill have to pay again, even if that will equate to the dame amount of money in the end. If im going to buy an expensive wearable I wanna buy it, and have it. Im probably not gonna get a new watch that soon, I tend to use things till they die on me. So after those four years my whoop costs me money and my apple watch wont

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@Nikx-youtube Totally understand and agree with that sentiment.

[@MATIvmr]

Still.. battery lasts 1-3 days, depends on a watch which is a piss take 😂unless they’re coming with at least 5 days of real life work time, I’m not bothered with another AW

[@BrandonTalbot]

It’s an improvement on what we had, but I don’t think anybody is stoked about it and we certainly want better

[@CaseyCoxx]

I wish Apple made the vitals a whole app on its own.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Why?

[@CaseyCoxx]

@@BrandonTalbotI’d rather just have a shortcut to the data and info rather than going to health app. I have whoop as well and their UI is really smooth and I like it. It would be cool if Apple did that.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Well vitals is its own app. You don’t have to go into vitals in the health app to see them.

[@chuckhazzard7295]

Whoop has been exporting workouts to Apple Health for quite a long time. This is not a new feature.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Have they always counted towards activity rings? I have had a few tech reviewers in this space tell me they haven’t.

[@chuckhazzard7295]

@@BrandonTalbot I have never exported Whoop workouts to Apple Health. I have only tested with Garmin and Polar devices.

[@alexitanguay]

@@BrandonTalbotexactly

[@jcmuscle123]

There’s one big problem with the AW and why the whoop is the answer for me , I love wearing watches , so the whoop is the answer for me

[@BrandonTalbot]

Good reason:)

[@Patty100ish]

This makes no sense? You love wearing watches so the whoop is the answer? What does that mean 😂

[@TitanJeff]

​@@Patty100ish Watch on the left wrist, Whoop on the right wrist (or vice versa). Basically if you're wearing a watch every day, you'd have to be wearing two watches to wear the Apple Watch as well

[@theq-ster6981]

It means he likes wearing old school watches; not smart watches.

[@jcmuscle123]

@@Patty100ishthat I can’t wear an AW and also one of my mechanical watches at the same time ? I refuse to be one of those fellas

[@rl9379]

First 🎉 pin?

[@TellurdogIsayhi]

Apple watches are freaking HIDEOUS. I’d rather take a whoop, but the subscription fee blows. It also can’t track steps, so…

[@joshdavis2836]

it tracks steps now

[@jessegodin1055]

Not accurately, I drive trucks for a living and it’s saying I walk 33,000 steps. I’m on my ass most of the day lol