Apple Watch Ultra: Honest Long Term Review

[@garytraylor5716]

Are you kidding. The Design, the Action Button, Temperature Sensing capability & Dive Feature are your complaints. I have hade the Ultra for a week and have charged it twice. The display alone (Size, Durability & Brightness) was reason for me to upgrade. Not saying that everyone is a perfect fit for the Ultra. I bought my wife the Series 8 because the Ultra just looked silly on her wrist. My wife and I are upgrading from the Series 4, so I was waiting for a big change in design, and Apple delivered exactly what I wanted!

[@bluecrimson6841]

So maybe I missed this but which bands does the ultra watch come with ?

[@garytraylor5716]

I got the sports loop, but they have a decent variety. I wish they had the Leather Link band as an option!

[@The.JZA.]

How quickly does the water temperature sensor work? I have a temp sensor on my garmin and it can tell me the water temp but I have to submerge it for a couple of minutes before it reaches equilibrium (because it is already warm from being on my wrist). Is this the same for the Ultra or does it update straight away?

[@ZyliceLiddell]

Has the Apple Watch S8 or Ultra have the satellite feature that the iPhone 14 does?

[@iVisual.sambonkowski]

I will wait for your 3 years and 9.2 months review before I can make my mind.

[@canyonblue737-8]

The Ultra display is NOT 49mm, the case is 49mm. In actuality the Ultra is the biggest Apple Watch display ever, but by only 1.83% over the 45mm S7/8! Apple has some to scale images that show the actual display area is nearly imperceptibly different with the 45mm S7/8 (way, way less that any jump in screen size before, it really essentially is the same) ... HOWEVER because of the much larger black bezels and flat screen of the Ultra tapping things close to the edge of the display seems easier and adds to a perception of easier use. Again just to be clear, don't buy the Ultra because of a big jump in display size between the 45mm and 49mm case sizes... because the actual display is essentially the same. That brightness in the sun is killer awesome for the Ultra though!

[@minigiant8998]

the display is 24% bigger

[@kds471]

Just took my digital calipers to my ultra and the case is 53mm, exterior bezel is 50, and screen is 43.5 as measured with flashlight app on. Glass size is 48mm.

[@darthmaverick7379]

@@kds471 I love it when someone spends a whole paragraph just spitting nonsense and another takes 2 sentences with actual data and proof to disprove it.

[@YouTubeMainUser]

2 days of battery life? No thanks. We can wait more years for a better battery technology. No rush.

[@RuthlessAfro4692]

I must be living under a rock coz I didn't know there was such thing called apple watch ultra

[@schwartzmatthewe]

It actually does tell you the exact temp in Health.

[@AppleInsider]

Ish... you have to go in and view the data one by one versus seeing the number displayed on the dashboard. Seems like Apple may not trust individual readings so it generalizes them.

[@praetorin]

bro come on, 1 month is not long term. lol

[@MissouriMatt54]

you had me up until your twitter handle, boooo hisss :). Thank you for the video.

[@AppleInsider]

Aww.! C’mon!

[@MissouriMatt54]

@@AppleInsider well your band is pretty good, not sure “tbdbitl” good, but they dress nice.

[@VoltLover00]

Waste of money

[@JohnDoe-vs9fm]

1 month = "long term" It feels like this is the same definition my 17yo cousin has with her boyfriends lol

[@t1328]

I’m not the target audience for this. When I first saw it during the launch, I thought I wouldn’t like it. Then I saw it and tried it on at the Apple Store, and I was sold. I’ve had it for 2 weeks and I love it. The screen size and battery life alone are game changers, but I love how hardy it feels, and how comfortable the ocean straps feel. Overall, my favorite Apple Watch to-date. But I am keeping my stainless steel (gray/black) series 7 for formal occasions.

[@warjon642]

thats funny ! dude i did the exact same thing ...and yeah..kept the 7 also...but now my wife wears it so all worked out lol !

[@hardtruth2039]

I bought my ultra to monitor my health. I need to monitor my heart rhythm and be notified of AFib and other arrhythmias. As well I need to monitor my blood oxygen levels and sleep patterns. I realize it’s not something to completely rely on but it gives me a heads up to know that I need to check my 02 and to do a 6 lead EKG using my Kardia mobile. Well worth the money. I use it a lot without my phone when on the road through the day. Does everything I need including making calls, gps directions, waypoints for proof of deliveries, texts, email, and so on. Absolutely love it.

[@robdelacruz945]

I’ve had almost all Apple Watch versions and this is the first one that feels great on my wrist “male” screen is 100% responsive like my iPhone 13 Pro Max

[@venom5809]

Love mine, got it with the orange Alpine strap and it looks fantastic.

[@jamese7835]

@appleinsider Correction - FYI actually, Apple Watch Ultra is not the most expensive Apple Watch you can get this year. Apple Watch Hermès is @ $1249 - $1299.

[@drdentrepair5530]

Nice video! I just upgraded from an Apple 4 watch to the 7 and bought some alpine loop bands on amazon. Love the watch and the bands. I hear in almost every video that the screen is so much brighter. In all the years I have had one I have never thought I wished the screen was brighter

[@dontaylor4464]

$800 not that much when there are other watches going for Way More that does nothing but tell Time and that's IT

[@dms14]

Exactly

[@DB-ry2kh]

Most of those watches are investments and will likely go up in value over time, they’ll rarely depreciate by very much. The second an Apple Watch is turned on it’s depreciating in value, albeit by far less than any other smart watch. I think the Series 8 is a really good price point and in my opinion the Ultra just isn’t worth twice the price.

[@Jferrari427]

I’ve been using the ultra since launch. I would agree with a lot of your points. The temperature sensor is almost (in its current form at least) a non-feature. It pretty much does nothing. But I do think the much larger screen and better battery life really make this Watch unique over the standard versions.

[@Oleg__]

In fact, the screen is barely larger. Moreover, on Reddit the owners wrote that they measured the diameter of one of the round analog dials with a ruler, and on the regular version the diameter of the dial was even slightly larger. There you have it, "the much larger screen".

[@minigiant8998]

@@Oleg__ it's 24% larger, duh

[@mlwalks2964]

@@Oleg__ im an apple nerd and love all things apple, but seriously, if you look at the actual screen being used on the ultra and the size of the black border compared to the 8, there is hardly any more actually used display.

[@alkissarris9044]

@@mlwalks2964 the flat display makes the difference I think

[@Oleg__]

Mini Giant, Many people have no idea what they're talking about. Apple specifies the size of the case, not the display. After all, you have your own eyes, and KZbin is full of comparisons side by side. Look and judge with your own eyes the scale and size of the entire watch face.

[@dinoflo40]

I got the S8 stainless steel in graphite, got bored real quick.. returned it for the Ultra today 👍🏽

[@JoshNieves]

I bought two watches because I was undecided. The S8 SS and the ultra. Returned the SS and kept the ultra. Even if I like the design of the SS a little better all the extra features make the Ultra a no brainer.

[@gal5322]

@@JoshNieves what are the other features? Deciding between the two.

[@JoshNieves]

@@gal5322 brighter screen, almost 3 full days of battery life, nicer Digital Crown, action button, dive app (that I haven’t used).

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. I typically have the opposite experience of feeling letdown after the initial hype. I’m usually very happy. Reviewers spend so much time going over every possible shortcoming and flaw, I usually go into an Apple purchase feeling unsure and uneasy about the decision. It usually turns out to be much better than presented and a magnificent device as time goes by.

[@UHDGamers-re2xj]

I love mine, it lasts about 4 days with AOD turned off and blood oxygen turned off as its a feature I use when needed but don't need it on all the time.

[@darma8159]

Really!? I find reviewers more concerned about trying to force you into buying Apple products rather than being honest.

[@sharonb.9128]

@@darma8159 not in my experience. Reviewers with Apple devices usually spend most of the time going through every possible issue the device might have. Intense scrutiny other brands rarely, if ever receive. It’s unusual how many people who don’t buy Apple devices, flock to Apple reviews looking for confirmation bias. I watch all types of product reviews, most list pros and cons. With Apple reviewers not only list cons, but potential cons, rumored cons, universal cons and even nothing-cons.

[@darma8159]

@@sharonb.9128 hmmm not in my experience. I own most Apple devices and I find they purposely omit a lot of stuff like if they’re just trying to sell it.

[@FloydMaxwell]

SUMMARY: Worthless product

[@TheAppleLoadout]

Why do KZbinrs have to have these stupid video titles? If the title does not say HONEST then is it all lies?

[@Jude3Apologetics831]

The fact that reviewers have to make a video on their own opinions on this watch. The fact is that this watch isn’t for everyone. If you want the watch get it, if you don’t want the watch don’t get it. I’ve seen a few videos from reviewers saying I hate this watch it’s not what I expected and you are titled to your own opinion but that doesn’t change peoples minds because you made a video on why you hate it. I have the watch and I love it. Don’t knock it til you try it.

[@Oleg__]

I really like the regular Apple Watch and its more elegant design. For a more brutal design, I have three G‑Shocks, which I also really like.

[@mcirone]

Long-term? This watch has only been out a week or two 🤣 My preorder still hasn’t arrived, so I guess “long-term” is subjective

[@andrewchong79]

I don't think the orange accent is a negative for the watch since it was package for the outdoor type of users. For the normal users it would just be a something to note and not exactly a negative point.

[@andrewshively6475]

Ultra is my favorite apple product in a long time. The titanium just looks closer to a normal watch look as opposed to other more colorful options giving it a "gadget" vibe. The ocean band is my favorite band to date. Overall I just like big watches a la g shock vibes, and like you mentioned, it's not as big as you would think 49mm seems on paper. It's perfect on wrist... although maybe not for the ladies. I can see an Ultra Mini possibly being put out in the future or maybe that's simply what the other versions are for. And I personally LOVE the orange accents. Tactical vibes are just my personality all day long and this fits that look all day and blends in super nicely with the titanium. I never buy apple care, but will buy apple care on this because I plan on keeping it a long time. And the temperature thing could simply just be software related, that's not necessarily an Ultra flaw.

[@Nettiep61158]

I’m a woman and I bought the ultra and I love the larger size and I get Soooooo many compliments on it from both woman and men!

[@Drewlululu]

Great video! Hey look, we know some people are using the Apple Watch Ultra as a dive computer but here is my concern. A typical dive computer will need servicing once in awhile because over time, the water resistance will degrade. Apple has also claim that the water resistance will degrade overtime on the Ultra, so I would like to know if the Ultra serviceable?

[@michael_vevo79]

That’s a great question. I totally forgot about that.

[@jurt00]

Not sure this can qualify as a "long term review" since you just sat there talking about specs and your experience without showing us anything. Show us - take us out on a walk around town and show us all the useful features of the watch, like a "day in the life of" video.

[@ky314]

Can I please have your dishonest review??

[@Hey_load]

Price? Series 8 stainless steel GPS + Cellular is the same price as the Ultra. It’s a great deal.

[@genxtechguy]

Long term?

[@Mystery-Moon]

Really liking the design, will get one if they release a black version in the future. $800 is not that bad it’s €1000 in Europe .

[@deepakmaudhoo3410]

What's going on with 14 Pro Max fully charge disabled always on display and a few things,doesn't make any difference the first 15% just glide doing nothing

[@shaun1900]

Lots of people who don't exercise or need any of its features buy this watch to go with the Jeeps and hiking gear they buy to "look active" on their way to Mcdonald's.

[@osirisxtv]

Facts. Everyone I’ve seen buy one is literally just doing nothing but wearing it and not being active. 😂

[@aroc3908]

I went for the ultra mainly for the battery. I hate charging my old apple watch every night.

[@LaszloBagi]

A month is a long term review? The Scuba App is fantastic!

[@brianzinner]

Not even a month, actually 1 day short of 3 weeks.

[@Cekeshe]

Long-term?

[@patricktrossbach668]

I love the watch. I feel like I’ve grown to appreciate it more over time. The only frustration is if it’s not seated properly it will keep locking itself, but usually it’s just one readjustment and I’m good.

[@maxwellwallace8553]

Yeah that's why I immediately turn off the passcode

[@samueldickes]

Honest long time review, after a month! You’re joking 🙃

[@enripc]

Hi, the issues you have I really don’t see it 😅

[@kevincampbell6490]

It's hands down the best Apple Watch ever made BUT it's not for.everyone and as a runner I can tell you don't throw away your Garmin just yet.

[@appleztooranges]

We need an iPhone 15 ultra. 40 hrs battery life son!

[@apoorvashrivastava1561]

Hey there I purchased iphone 13 a week ago and apple watch 2 days ago i am unable to pair my watch with my iphone since 2 days i think i have a faulty product but its a non returnable product as per Flipkart. Do you have any solution for it

[@aroc3908]

I had a high fever last week and the watch didnt tell me that my temp went high than normal even though the graph shows that there is a sudden rise of temperature. The watch should have atleast notify that there is a sudden rise in temperature.

[@ThePlanetTVtheplanettv]

Let's be honest: 7~800$ is way too much for this does as a smart watch. There isn't a use case I can think of except for appearing as a fanboy and letting everyone know you have an important smart watch. As far as costs go for watches, especially LUX watches... the price is obviously on par or way cheaper. But this isn't a LUX watch. #1, I am on my 3rd Apple Watch and I will say this: USELESS. One the connection and software between iphone and watch have always been problematic. I am still trying to push the update. It fails every single time. And the phone is 13, watch is only 2 y/o. #2 messages and emails, useless on this device. It's just too small and often never renders anything meaning full. #3 SMS messages outbound haven't been working since I went from Verizon to Consumer Cell. #4 thats the other issue, Apple watch doesn't work with all carriers...so good luck. #5 battery has always stunk on these devices. #6 the ONLY thing the watch is good for is to tell me to stand up. Again, useless. #7 the watch doesn't tell me if I leave my phone behind. #8 the watch can't help me find my phone because often that hasnt worked either on the watch. #8 For the fact the watch has a touch screen, what's mind blowing is the fact that there are not enough usable options for customizing widgets, etc. and being able to program the interface. MY QUESTION IS WHY, ANYONE WOULD WANT THIS? #9, taking pictures with your iPhone using the watch, again...only works sometimes. The other times your troubleshooting. #10 Time to stand UP and OTHER USELESS notifications. I know, this can be set to not notify... right...if your watch is updating and 100% functioning with the iPhone.

[@RichieLanderos]

I returned mine after 2 weeks. Couldn’t get used to the size. I only thing I miss, is the battery. But not that big of a deal since I charge all my devices in the morning before work. I ended up getting the gold SS and I get 1-2 compliments at work. Which isn’t a big deal. But if I’m spending close to a thousand It’s nice that people notice it 😅

[@ef439]

Hi , I had a problem with the digital crown more precisely it turned heavily as you described and i replaced the watch after two days !! and now it spins fantastically !!!! I don't agree about the design, the titanium color is beautiful and the orange is perfect (a woman's point of view) Thanks for the video

[@StevenSkoczen]

I'm sorry. "Long-term review" for a product that's been out for 15 days?!?! Maybe I'm crazy here, but that seems rather not a long period of time for an $800 titanium device. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's a whole category of reviews I've missed where "long term" means two weeks. "Free Wooden Chopsticks Long-term Review" "Disposable camera long-term review" "4-pack of toilet paper long-term review." truly, the world of long-term reviews as a fruit fly are endless. Shame on you, AppleInsider. We get you're chasing the algorithm, but you're better than this clickbait garbage.

[@jamison74]

“Most expensive Apple Watch available this year”….are you sure about that 🙄 You guys need Max back, that or a continuity manager (fact checker). It’s just sloppy work

[@kurakuson]

"Set up a command" That sounds a lot like the pre-windows days (dos), for a PC.

[@jeromederouette2922]

best AW ever!!!! size + battery + brightness + speaker!!! functions aside, just that was enough for me!!!

[@Celisar1]

No, „you“ cannot use your old wrist bands. Most MEN can and very few women since only the 45 mm wrist bands fit. I have a nice 41mm collection for some hundred dollars going on that I simply could throw away now. Not one single reviewer cares about that which I find really sad. But all male reviewers raven about the temperature sensor as „super useful“ which hardly any woman is interested in.

[@Albery.93]

People out here saying the Apple Watch Ultra is a flex for 800$ 💀, when there are plenty of other rugged smartwatches out there that are worth 1000$+. This watch isn’t for everyone but just because you didn’t buy it, doesn’t mean that the person that did is flexing, get rid of that mindset, The battery life and ruggedness and durability is a big reason why people bought this.

[@ericmortaro2475]

Personal view, but I think the old bands are too skinny looking on the Ultra. If you compare the old bands with the new one, the new ones are wider. I just couldn't get over the look of all of my older bands on this new watch, so I returned the Ultra.

[@andreaskoller2442]

So just to recap - you’ve set the action button to start a dive - but you did not manage to actually do one in a month!? The action button should probably be used for something you do actually do! 😂😜

[@BradleySkaggsNYC]

The Ultra was not meant to be dressed up or down. Agree with the position of the Action Button. Odd. But otherwise, the design is solid.

[@seventh_adam4410]

I found a used one for 575 one month old in Ohio an hour from me. I haven't bought it yet. The ads show a guy on Everest and a scuba diver using the watch but the 3 to 4 days of battery life is a joke for a mt climber. With all the hype surrounding this watch I still cant see many serious ultra sport athletes selling their gamins or other brand watches for this one.

[@Mystery-Moon]

I will consider getting one of they release a black version.

[@XenOng3n]

May sound conter intuitive but a thin black case could fix the color issue

[@dakotaxu4792]

You “ wish they made it in a darker color ‘, well that will be the case in next year’s Series 2, along with a lot of other things you didn’t like ha ha so you can shell out some more money 😂

[@alexdavalos3083]

The Ultra is the only watch Apple should have made from the beginning.

[@andreacavaliere884]

I saw it, tried it on then got it. It’s a really nice Watch. Was time time for a change, feels great and not big at all. Such a better display too. Action button is great too, wish I could use with a third party app like WorkOutDoors or Runkeeper.

[@guilhermegabriel7432]

“Long term”.

[@kosta1605]

cant wait to get mine. Sent back my series 7 as the battery life for me was annoying to deal with. It did last for an entire day and some but to charge it up basically everyday was annoying. I hope to enjoy the ultra more as it looks like the battery life is pretty good.

[@TheDarklordHimself]

“Long term”

[@tautkusm]

Loved your honest review 😃 nice info. By the way, the baseline temperature has other uses besides ovulation. For men and women with hypothyroid problems, this is great for determining if your thyroid needs help when your basil temperature becomes too low especially upon waking. All that being said love your review. PS. Will subscribe provided you PLEASE level your exit theme music way lower instead of me being forced to hit the volume control on my iPad to protect my ears or yank my EarPods from my ears 😖

[@lancedomhoff1126]

Wish people would stop the disinformation on that this watch is not for everyone. This is the only version you should buy! The benefits are too plenty to pass up. Out of my 3 other friends that picked this up the 4 of us have never triggered the action button……hmm. Out of the other watches I’ve purchased this Ultra is so far advanced than my others. Run don’t walk to pick this beast up!!

[@JordanIsWright]

Not everyone has 799 and is a tech head to care about all the ultra features

[@binaryjava8086]

I don’t need a dive computer or 48 hour battery, you bought it for a flex, and that’s fine

[@MooseX2012]

Jordan and Java both missed the point 🤦‍♂️

[@carlcameron3524]

Facts 💯💯

[@kmdkmd-jz8pv]

I’m loving it myself.

[@CableProductions]

The fact that your complaining about the rugged features means you aren’t the target audience

[@randomguy5284]

Agree - Remove that tacky orange buttons. Make it stainless!

[@jholmes3329]

I have one. I never push the action button on accident. I think its just people that have had an apple watch for a while with muscle memory. The orange I think looks good, I hate that apple didn’t emphasize the orange with at least one of each of the new band styles…

[@jholmes3329]

The orange kinda fades when its on a black band. I haven’t even had anyone notice it as anything but an apple watch

[@KilvioMadera]

Good to know you are in Ohio! I have been a fan for a long time located in Cincinnati.

[@callan69]

I wish it was $800 in Australia it costs $1300+ for me 😅

[@the600cc]

I’m waiting for apple to make a bigger wilder watch..

[@theapexpredator157]

Hmm... I don't find that I press the Action Button that often at all. Even when I have my Thumb on the Action Button and Index Finger on the Side Button, I end up pressing the Side Button first. However, if the Action Button is being pressed, then switching up the position of the Thumb would be advisable. You could either place your Thumb slightly above the Action Button (near the Display Screen Edge) or on the Bottom Left Corner of the Frame near the Siren. This is assuming that you wear the watch on your Left Hand with the Crown Orientation being "Right" in Settings.

[@Boshek2019]

Two words for me to buy: Titanium BLACK

[@BradleyMorrisYT]

The only reason Apple advertises this to a specific group of people is because of the price. They know the average person won’t buy a watch that’s the same price as a phone. But hopefully future gens can get this price down and I see them having an aluminum version at some point probably for 500

[@premchettri7170]

Agree on his points, It is lil bulky and heavy for me comparatively and the action button goes off all the time !!

[@Xx42Reckless42xX]

You gotta upgrade that hat bro volcom is so 2009

[@damianbuchholz3523]

Feels like an Apple Watch that caught up to the Samsung watch but for 3 times the price

[@kennykolourinc1250]

what if you turn the watch around so the action button in on the right side?

[@Clipative]

Congratulations on the baby❤️☺️

[@nickrendell4300]

Great long review, I got the ultra and am so pleased with the design and much better battery life.✌️👍

[@lucasgiles7613]

Why is my action button option menu different?

[@MATIvmr]

Lots of bollocks and moaning, not even getting facts straight nor testing all the functions (except crash detection), says it all 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@suben7226]

Tbh I don't think it is a good Long Term Review at all. This Apple Watch is competing in a completly different market. This watch is made for athlethes. You are talking about it as it were a normal watch like: "Oh I don't like this orange" or "It goes better with gloves" yeah because it is made for extreme situations. You talked about everything except the things that make this watch "Ultra" If you were to compair it with the competitor (Garmin) then this watch performs rather poorly in some aspects. Even in terms of "Battery life". So, does this mean this is ONLY for athletes? No, but you are paying a high price for such features. If you don't do sports at all or just casually once or twice a week I really would consider just going with the Apple Watch 8. The "only" thing you are gaining here as a normal user is probably the battery life and the bigger screen. If thats what you were always looking for then go ahead but the design is heavily focused on extreme sport situations.

[@Truth_Seeker1]

I love this watch and I have only had this for a day lol.

[@Axis360]

Just came home and my watch was here. I am very interested in the diving functions, however, I don't believe there is air integration! BIG WANT! I used to do a ton of back county hikes, ski and mountain biking, now, being 61 I lean more towards weekend warrior- God, that sounds bad!! LOL In any case the health functions the backtrack, and the GPS will be useful- Last weekend I biked the Switzerland trail here in Colorado- Not that I needed it but data would be cool. I still do the 10th Mountain and a few years ago in a sick snowstorm without my mapping skills and compass, I don't think I would have made it to the hut. One person did get lost and we set out looking for him-He's still out there somewhere-joking we found him and he bought the 1st round! I am looking forward to using and learning this watch. Nice review, action man! Stay clear of the action button, got it!

[@NourMoghrabi]

I don’t like the update battery health feature on iPhone I wish don’t exist like in android phones and they can’t see the battery health because you can use your product with out to worry about the battery health

[@alanheinrich132]

In order to use it as an actual dive computer, you have to download the "upcoming" Oceanic app. And to use the app, you have to subscribe for $89 a year. WHY?!! Why didn't Apple just include the correct software with the watch, just like all other dive computers? Marketing it as a dive computer and then having to use a third party app that you have to pay for to actually make it a dive computer...Apple...you dropped the ball for this niche you are going after.

[@Austinhansch743]

I have had mine for a week now and am extremely obsessed with it! I got the alpine loop band and trail loop band!

[@jesmond5562]

Who cares 😂😂😂

[@chrisb9475]

Ok Just Turn Off The Action Button That What Im Going To Do When I get My Watch The Temperature Sensor Information Can Be Made Better With A IOS Update Down The Road Just Like They Did To Sleep Tracking # ENJOY YOUR WATCH 😅

[@joespingler]

Do not buy for screen size alone over 45mm version. I see some references to a 24% increase. It is not. According to Apple's tech specs, the AWU has a display size of 1185 sq. mm. The AW7/8 45mm has 1143 sq. mm. About a 3.67% difference I believe.

[@P__114]

This guy out here angry he doesn’t ovulate

[@phillipp1399]

So many on KZbin complaining about the accidental pushing of the action button. I’ve had an Apple Watch from the start and in however many weeks of the ultra I’ve never, ever accidentally pushed the action button. So strange.

[@TisforTech]

Should say one month review. It's not long term.

[@AppleWatchPunk]

Roughly a month is long term now ;-}

[@fredrodriquez3230]

That’s the problem nowadays people don’t see what your saying. People see what’s right in front of them, but in actuality apple has done stuff just like this for years. Adding new features with the old and still making it the same price or even better. But the cancel culture that’s taken a foothold like not to see it the way you’ve explained it. The consumer would rather find fault then to see what the product can bring to the table to be used in everyday life. I think the Apple Watch Ultra looks cool hope to get one sometime soon.