How Microsoft and Apple Became Rivals

[@maboroshi1986]

I see the rivalry being more like a sibling rivalry rather than enmity. Yeah they compete but they will back the other up when needed and neither wants to see the other fail.

[@brendanturner4787]

microsoft doesn't want Apple to fail because that mean's they'd have a monopoly over the OS market, then the company would be split up

[@maboroshi1986]

it would have been true 20 years ago when the US government was after microsoft for antitrust violations. but since the bush years the likelihood of that happening has plummeted.

[@jamalbaker4423]

They were butt buddies, basically. Those relationships can get messy (poop), but are typically strong.

[@lotsodhliwayo]

i would hate to see a market without either of these two. People usually hate Microsoft but I actually love it, basically, they are bros in arms.

[@suryansh4733]

@@lotsodhliwayo why do people hate microsoft? because of Steve Ballmer?

[@RobertovBJJ]

So Basically Apple and Microsoft Basically Helped each other from bankrupcy sounds like a friendship to me.

[@mfam72]

There are some theories show that it was nothing personal, but a business move. Microsoft was under multiple antirust or monopoly lawsuit during that time. So investing in Apple would cover up some of their dirt

[@aladdin8372]

they are frendly rival but they are not in war. think bills gate still own couple share of apple

[@moneymaker212121]

Companies like duopolies

[@Jack-ub8kc]

Well, Microsoft saved Apple for ultimately their own benefit. It wasn't personal, it was to take off some of the pressure on the anti-trust suit.

[@Hybrid225]

Love and hate

[@dantendo2]

Floating point is mainly used to store decimals. Not having floating point means the computer can only work with integers, which makes developing financial software hard since money uses decimals.

[@doorsofperception]

thanks I'm here to make sure someone (floating) pointed that out

[@camwhite1697]

You can still simulate floating point numbers with integers even they are not built into the hardware

[@AdityaSingh-007]

@@camwhite1697 no you can't

[@prateekpanwar646]

@@AdityaSingh-007 It's possible actually, Store number in 2 bytes instead of 1. 1st byte with contain number before decimal point, If 1st digit of 2nd byte is 1 instead of 0, Computer will treat it as number after decimal point instead of sign of integer. It's my method, how I'd do. There can be even better methods to do that.

[@groszak1]

Doesn't floating point mainly store binary, not decimal?

[@Beobixdoesstuff]

As a Microsoft and Apple user, I love both companies in there own way, and I don’t think their enemies, it’s more like sibling rivalry, they don’t want neither to fail, and do look out for eachother, but they do fight alot

[@JustACar00001]

I do think the same as I use Windows and Apple devices

[@VoidPaul97]

Microsoft now is like "Yeah we're already successful, why bother in keep working?" The only good thing Microsoft has done since Windows 10 is adding a basic feature to Windows 11 almost a year later and making WinRAR available natively.

[@JustACar00001]

@SuperNostalgia. I am not religous.

[@C0LPAN1C]

I code and am a fanboy for both. Platform agnosticism is the way to be.

[@UbuntuPersonNoMint]

I use mac os and Windows but I want ms to fail because Windows makes me wanna puke sometimes

[@nlhn638]

When you realize that Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were both friends and colleagues.

[@nlhn638]

@@dominiklevi5484 Spam bots.

[@nlhn638]

@Mustafa Langston Spam Bots

[@awesomeguy2650]

spam bot

[@Hybrid225]

K?

[@awesomeguy2650]

@@Hybrid225 ok sorry

[@BeanMcgreen]

When the two smart kids get different answers

[@hasnain_21]

bruh

[@IvanWg]

So true

[@_.Sir_Isaac_Newton._]

So original (NOT)

[@nekogaming8461]

@Kids e-Tube BTW why are you guys watching a 2 year old vid...I’m watching bcz it was on my recommendations

[@iPodHacker1O1]

Sus

[@Bloxed]

This rivalry was up there with: Nintendo Vs. Sega Sony Vs. Phillips Such a great rivalry.

[@sosopwsi829Jjw9]

@Windows Explorer // Exploring Windows yeah. maybe SOME part in video games but nowhere else

[@jakemorandthemomoz8154]

And capitalism vs communism.😂

[@livonium]

Nintendo vs Sega

[@JavaCake]

What about Plants Vs. Zombies?

[@yasasvi4415]

technically it is nintendo vs PS and Microsoft

[@StevenEveral]

What about the rivalry between Apple and Google? There's actually real animosity there.

[@de132]

"animosity" is stretching it. They're competitors but it's not as deep seeded as you think.

[@AdmiralBison]

No, only between fanboys and haters.

[@augustogalindo8687]

Actually one of Google founders used to visit Steve Jobs regularly and ask him for advice and Steve would help him even after the problem with Android.

[@mistyria]

What about apple with Samsung ._.

[@peterwindle4453]

@@augustogalindo8687 interesting also to note that Google search was made popular by Apple, because they were one of the first to include it in their browser...

[@AschKris]

The fact that the Apple II couldn't handle floating point actually meant that it couldn't handle (natively, at least) decimal numbers, which is a more serious problem for financial software. The range you gave means that the Apple II stored it's numbers on two bytes or 16 bits, which was respectable for the time (I think this may be an error, because the original Apple II used an 8-bit processor).

[@mikeggth]

This makes me think of Charles Xavier & Magneto.

[@priyonjoni]

Mike Appleseed ironically, magneto played Steve jobs 😂

[@wc1y]

Mike Appleseed are you alive

[@Someguyonweb959]

Magneto actually played Steve jobs😂(Micheal Fassbender)

[@mikeggth]

@@Someguyonweb959 Indeed!

[@kabirthegreat]

Apple by far has the most interesting and intense history in technology.

[@AusTVUploader]

relax

[@cthedosboss5113]

bet

[@Maraien]

O no julio

[@BloodRider1914]

I actually think that Google and Apple are bigger rivals, at least in the current day

[@kevindamerr]

Nope. Google and Amazon are the biggest rivals

[@gerbilpmc]

w a l m a r t v s t a r g e t

[@Locutus]

Kevin, Blood is talking about Apple rivals, not generic tech rivals.

[@augustogalindo8687]

Actually Google and Microsoft have a bigger rivalry. Consider this: there are google apps on iOS but Google decided not to bring them to Windows Phone, and Office works better on iOS.

[@albertmubatsaart5470]

In 2023, it's more of Google and Microsoft

[@ReverseBurst]

This is the kind of history I want to learn.

[@ConernicusRex]

Don’t learn it from this. Almost every single minor detail in the video is incorrect.

[@nickkapatais]

I have 8 Apple devices at home and been using Apple for years, wouldn't dream of switching to something else for personal use. However, professionally, I can't dream of leaving the .NET platform. The two companies have their own position in the market, with two different audiences, different intents and different cultures. I appreciate and respect both companies.

[@illjumpiswear771]

It's incredible to me how close the oldest Mac os is to modern day (look and feel wise). what a great job

[@vindication84]

Greg, I appreciate the work you put into these videos and watch them all, but if you're going to put them out this frequently you should really do more research because there are always some. 1. BASIC isn't an operating system, it's a programming language. 2. Minor detail, but Windows 1.0 wasn't really an operating system either. 3. Sculley wasnt a board member before he was CEO, and he didn't replace Jobs, Jobs hired him to be CEO. Jobs wasn't CEO until he returned to Apple in the 90s.

[@prateekpanwar646]

2. Was it an interface which ran on Unix/DOS?

[@vindication84]

@@prateekpanwar646 Yeah, Windows 1.0 was a “Graphical Operating Environment” which ran on top of DOS. Every consumer version of Windows until XP was technically running on top of DOS, with the first professional version of Windows as its own OS appearing as NT in 1993. But for all intents and purposes, the consumer version of Windows that most will consider its own OS (even though it technically wasn’t) was Windows 95.

[@theowillis6870]

no. he meant BASIC to imply it was most likely written in BASIC.

[@theowillis6870]

@@prateekpanwar646 It ran on top of the terminal. its pretty much A GUI implementation of the terminal

[@theowillis6870]

@@prateekpanwar646 today however. it runs more of a program that works with your computer.

[@JonathonV]

I remember the famous “Chemistry Project” that debuted shortly after Microsoft bailed Apple out of certain bankruptcy. Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office were released with Mac-specific features, iTunes and Safari were released for Windows, and BootCamp let Macs boot into Windows without voiding a warranty. Obviously this project petered out pretty quickly; Apple started releasing its lovable-if douchebaggy-Mac vs. PC ads, both IE and Safari started to lose market share due to free and more impressive competitors, and both companies started reading each other's mail. On that note, it wasn't just Microsoft who copied Apple, as the video suggests. Microsoft brought in Media Center PCs years before Apple TV; they had Tablet PCs half a decade before the iPad; Windows let users snap windows side-by-side before iPadOS or OS X … the list goes on. It definitely went both ways, and still does.

[@robotomo4249]

history of apple logic, gargeband or imovie

[@abinandrews]

at 0:45, there is no OS called Microsoft BASIC, its a programming language

[@copythat10_44]

Abin Andrews DOS right that’s the original computer 💻 language.

[@fancywaifu9821]

Welcome back to, How did Apple become rivals with every tech giant on the planet

[@pjlynch3889]

I am a microapple fan and that Word mixes Apple and Microsoft together

[@ConernicusRex]

BASIC is a programming language, the OS shell produced by Microsoft at the time was called DOS. They also made software compatible with OS/2 and CP/M.

[@sebastianmercado4541]

i love how unlike other channels when video ideas in a poll dont win instead of discarding them you guys just you them later

[@wiggliestone8456]

Yet, they both need each other

[@wellivea1]

As a music player alone, the Zune was leaps and bounds ahead of any iPod, but as usual with Microsoft, it was too little too late.

[@wellivea1]

Especially the Zune mini and the HD, they were beautiful and unique, but Microsoft just seems incapable of proper marketing.

[@BritishBeachcomber]

1:09 Business accounting software never uses floating point arithmetic. It can't handle big numbers, due to rounding errors.We always use integer math.

[@LaurenDayMakeup]

BRILLIANT VIDEO thank you so much for all the history and facts 🍎🍏

[@Lizuma]

Windows has been in my childhood... my Dad used to have XP so long ago...I miss those days...AHHH WHY CANT I GO BACK IN TIME....!!! Anyway... there was the cat assistant in Word I copied (I was a little kid!) And then one day...the cat assistant was gone, and so was the pretty Windows XP. I like Windows 7 the best and a laptop in the house still has it. I will make sure it always runs it! When I get my own computer at last im gonna try to have Windows 7 and the older version of Word at the same time if it is possible, which it just has to be somehow! Surely there is a way to DOWNgrade things! Then I could mess around with my long lost friend, that cat, again, while being on my favorite Windows version. Windows XP is my second favorite! And then my Grandpa has an even older version of Windows than Windows XP...its so cool! I never had used the operating system on apple computers before, and it doesn't look as iconic as Windows does, or maybe that is since, once again, I had never used that operating system....but it was interesting watching this video on how Microsoft ended up being rivals with Apple!

[@chickeninabox]

Vista?

[@pokepress]

Speaking of brand rivalries, in the early years of the iTunes Store, Apple did a cross-promotion with Pepsi. If Zune had done one with Coke (I don’t recall one), that really would have been something.

[@rrektless]

When I watch a gaming video with 60fps: "Too much buffering!" When I watch Apple Explained video with 60fps: "No buffering today!"

[@OverAndOverAndOver]

Bill and Steve were both best friends at one point too

[@solcan4235]

Nice video man keep it up

[@fahimkj3842]

when you are on top everyone is start making comparing... apple deserve to be no.1 through invention innovation and vision

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

Failed at Zune and Windows Phone and Windows 8. And I've replaced Office with Google Docs. But the Surface line is what won me back to Microsoft again. =)

[@Slurkz]

Wow… I miss the soundtrack under this video, the music under the more recent videos lack character. Great video though! Thanks.

[@milabighair1788]

Fine! I'll subscribe! Its a good channel!

[@Weber408]

An interesting history between the rival of Apple and Microsoft good video

[@Jaggerrrr]

HI!!!! U MY FAV KZbinR!

[@Ellienollie]

Hey the brand ambassador thing for the zune is kinda ahead of their time . That’s like approaching a social media influencer today

[@SagBobet]

What? That's not what floating point means. Floating point is support for representation of decimal numbers. It has nothing to do with word size.

[@alyx6427]

they’re competitive rather than enemies i’d say

[@yatharthbakshi]

Explain this. Why is Apple dropping i suffix? iBooks changed Books. Apple Watch not iWatch. Apple TV, Apple Pencil. Why not i?! I liked it.

[@kiwi.kiwi.]

Steve: releases Macintosh Bill: releases Windows 1.0 Steve: *You copied me let's become rivals*

[@MasterKiller540_]

And then Bill dies Steve: How you dare copy me again

[@iicarplaying1930]

@@kiwi.kiwi. yes

[@bstory3196]

yeah lets say COPY....

[@dito5065]

Just like Naruto and Sasuke

[@HarrisonGray]

Why did you change the thumbnail

[@Cabooch]

Harrison Gray because he wanted to?

[@Maxbartozs]

I didn't know why either

[@f.puttstycker2784]

Was a program disk called JAZZ MS Word, excel, a few others?

[@naufalam7840]

zune looks like newer versions of windows. You can see internet icon and battery.

[@krtirtho]

Bill: "Hey Jobs, I made some new friends. They're pretty cool" Jobs: "What? You made other friends while I'm your friend!" Bill: "You being my friend doesn't prohibit me from making newer friends. Are you nuts?" Jobs: "NO! I'm your only friend & if you want them to be your friend you've to break up with me" Bill: "Break up. We're aren't lovers" Jobs: "I said, BREAK UP!" Bill: "Fine, NEVER SHOW YOUR FACE AGAIN!" ...and this is how the great rivalry had begun

[@AdamGoody]

Road to 100K!!!

[@egg4861]

Can you do history of the Apple Developer Program?

[@theend4098]

I wish they United and made one company.... they would be the best. IMAGINE A MAC+PC= AWESOMENESS!!!

[@pidge3193]

I thought I was the only one who wants that to happen lol

[@Morphical]

The End same here

[@bornorca5133]

I love a good pc where I can’t right click 😂😂

[@ShadowNukeX]

That's legit illegal coz colluding to create a monopoly is illegal

[@nlhn638]

@@bornorca5133 You can right click on an Apple computer with a magic mouse. In the system settings on Mac, there are mouse settings. When you pair an Administrator Magic Mouse, you get more settings. In those settings, you get options to add right click, scroll(either way), scroll left and right, double tap, double tap + scroll, triple tap, Triple tap + scroll, all doing different things. For example, a certain scroll on my Mac switches the window I am on to the next. There's a lot of custom things you can do with it if you know how to code, too. This works because the mouse isn't button operated, its more a touchpad that moves, on steroids.

[@LeeFinney]

Oh god, Can you imagine the heated discussions that would happen if Microsoft also didn't license windows. There would either be so many different operating systems to argue over or the Apple vs Microsoft would be insanely escalated aha.

[@jackknifed_juggernaut]

5:43 I can’t tell who’s suing who at this point

[@nuherbleath461]

the the moment his video came out, I said:"bingo, the video I voted for came out

[@Windows98R]

This is interesting cause a lot of bitter rivalries are a thing in the tech industries but Apple-Microsoft isn’t a hostile one. Yes they will compete over market share like companies should but neither side actively tries to attack or aggregate the other for the sake of attacking. They keep to themselves and respect each other for the most part without any unnecessary public fiasco or lawsuits. (Unlike some, ahem, Facebook, ahem, Samsung)

[@chriskrausesmovie]

I'm here for the music

[@aliciahilliard812]

Can you link the small video in your video.

[@alexandrelacroix8999]

the funny apple vs windows ads :kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHi6oJ6dlrBqpNE

[@ORybin10]

Where did you this information for this video?

[@chickeninabox]

Made Up. Everything is Made Up. This is Made Up. Who is "Made Up"?

[@NinPossible]

I was the one who picked the Zune HD over the iPod Touch 😂. Tried it at Disneyland and loved it. Also wasn’t a fan of Apple back then. I can say that the Zune HD had a lot of potential and Microsoft should have put more care on it. They should have used Zune’s OS for their Windows Phone. So many wasted opportunities for Microsoft. And now they tried to go for ARM laptops again. The hardware is ready but if they won’t optimize their Windows 11 faster and more carefully, they will lose again. And I was so tired of that. That’s why I switched to Mac when the M1 came out after I have been using Windows since I can remember. Never regretted it at all. Never have to reinstall the OS every 6 months again (if I don’t, it will run slower and die by itself. I didn’t even download weird apps!)

[@trustme2001]

Apple stoled its graphical user interface from Xerox. oh, i mean borrowed. My bad.

[@quexbydixbites4305]

That's actually a misconception, they paid Xerox, and Xerox didn't cared about that, you can watch the Pirates of Silicon Valley.

[@trustme2001]

@@quexbydixbites4305 @ yeah they pay them afterwards

[@OnurTheXbot]

I mean Microsoft did save Apple, but not because it was “the nice thing to do” but because they were going to get split into 2 companies because of the monopoly Microsoft had over the market.

[@Seallbay]

I ship them

[@BenjaminDenverstone]

Interesting enough, I have a Windows 10 Pro laptop and an iPad. I would love a Mac but can't afford it. I also have an Android phone because I don't have any money.

[@iicarplaying1930]

@@robloxnetwork3581 it is better than windows in EVERYWAY except for gaming but u still can play Roblox minecraft and fortnite on Mac and other steam games and among us for free!

[@iicarplaying1930]

@@robloxnetwork3581 lol u windows fan never talk about the m1 chip because you know that they are the reason Macs are better than windows and my man, reattachable keyboards does not make this better than this 😜

[@jjy_1106]

i wish all company is not fighting with each other🙁[Peace for all]

[@manashejmadi]

without that there is no proper competition and no great innovations...So companies need to fight

[@sinecosine7493]

Choi Yuna If companies never fought. Progress would never be made.

[@zachpowell1561]

One-up man ship is what America is built on- it’s part of the culture

[@memethanYT]

Weeb

[@ngoyediop4699]

fanwars... your pfp.... your name.... you....

[@josecarlosxyz]

That times is long over for the good

[@khanyamatta512]

Can I find out about what happened to Steve Jobs' garage

[@aditya_asundi]

3:58 not reallly..... it was a complete different architecture. modern windows run on the nt kernel

[@martintaylor9962]

Someone from UK may be able to confirm this but I don't think the zune was ever released in UK..

[@x.leah.hindson.x]

from the uk and I remember seeing them in Argos, they just never took off.

[@nadiafriesen971]

Modern Windows is not based off of Windows 1.0 it is based off of OS/2

[@uthmanbaksh3530]

Anyone remember the Mac vs. PC ads from the 2000's?

[@sriramsundar8388]

6:00! Trackpoint! But it's not an IBM ThinkPad!

[@qcrctgavarcesxrfab8015]

Wow that research

[@MBR-Tech92]

TY

[@michaelhettrick8510]

Man, I miss my Zune...

[@GABRIEL_MIRELES]

I buy the microsoft surface go 2 and at that time i never buy any product from apple and i was really happy with my new tablet because it was so expensive it cost me 600 (with the keyboard) and then i buy my first iphone and at that time i see that apple products are so expensive because they have good quality and i was really sad because my surface tablet start lagging so much and then i knew that with the money i spend on that tablet i could buy a apple ipad air 😞 but well i cant do anything i ready buy it

[@Countryballsworld-2014]

Are apple still friends today

[@x.leah.hindson.x]

a good film to watch about this is "Pirates of Silicone Valley"

[@copythat10_44]

Leah-Marie Lafond-Hindson doesn’t Ashton Kutcher look exactly like Steve Jobs as a teen. Sometimes I think there was no photos of Steve in the early years so Ashton Kutcher real photos were used 😆 lol

[@copythat10_44]

Loved Noah Wylie as Steve Jobs too.

[@malcwingate3405]

did bill make dell game 7 ? because if you talkin about my dell

[@balticboy51]

I like hiw they both get older

[@googular]

2:45

[@DanaTheInsane]

Part of the payoff was that Apple had to run Internet explorer for several years.

[@bstory3196]

and I REMOVED that junk

[@leokatzzz]

History of GarageBand plz

[@BADIHSALMAN]

Basically apple is the reason behind computers as we know them, and smartphones as we know them.

[@scottspitlerII]

Edit: Floating point is a decimal number

[@theharbingerofconflation]

Did he not address Microsofts blatant binary copy of Quicktime? I think he did not... wow huge oversight. That was part of the deal. They would have left Apple to die in piece had they not been sued over that.

[@matthewelerick648]

Microsoft copied QuickTime?

[@theharbingerofconflation]

Yup, was in part a binary copy where the instruction set permitted it. They put it into their Media Player and wrapped it up nicely for their .wmv format. Generally Gates saw how smooth video playback was on the first iMac and he could not understand how a 400mhz machine achieved this. So he opted to fuck up.

[@matthewelerick648]

Hase how was gates not sued

[@theharbingerofconflation]

He was, the deal with the non-voting shares and Office for the Mac was how they avoided the court. A decent settlement, Microsoft just wanted it to disappear fast, the press was all over this one as it came right after Gates Anti-Trust mess.

[@bstory3196]

@@matthewelerick648 and the OS was giving to APPLE way back when. because other company had no clue what to do with it

[@ConernicusRex]

6:53 that interview is from 1997’s Triumph of the Nerds. It’s an interview with Robert X Cringely recorded AFTER Steve had come back to Apple from NeXT/PiXAR. In 1997. Not 1995. There are so many facts in this video that are outright wrong as stated.

[@hershmysson]

WHAT? 16 Colors???!!!?! That's amazing. :T oh my tech evolution is so interesting.

[@ด.ช.ศิริชัยแก้วกุลศรี]

Is windows 10 gaming edition in 2020!!!

[@human_936]

I was watshing this on my mac book pro while my windows laptops was having a bit of a wifi seizer :P

[@Shahaaim]

So basically right now its Apple vs. Everyone else. (Microsoft.. Google.. Nvidia.. Samsung... Huawei..)

[@hariangr]

float number is decimal isn't it?

[@Countryballsworld-2014]

Love apple 🍎📱⌨️💻🖥🖱

[@Stormlywing]

people said even Microsoft says Windows 11 theirs own OS AutoHide taskbar and put menus on top your see Microsoft rans out of ideas as Windows 11 failed to get me to join it I would trade my gaming pc for macbook at least is friendly than Windows itself would Microsoft: Make an Microsoft account you can't even skip it Apple: Wants to sign-in to using your AppleID or do it later Apple known to be greedy doing something that would honor the one thing windows 11 wants to give but fail to honor the users who made windows XP and 10 even good

[@Countryballsworld-2014]

@@Stormlywing this was 1 year ago I was cringe ok?

[@ferrreira]

There's a bunch of errors in the video

[@ConernicusRex]

1:22 that’s not what floating point means.

[@miguelnovoa4835]

I'm wondering what smartphone does Bill gate use xDD I hope it's an iPhone, that would be hilarious.

[@Eyram]

Miguel Novoa september 26th, 2017 he was using an exclusive windows edition samsung galaxy S8

[@Hamid-rm1gu]

He uses a samsung running windows

[@andrevanschaijk885]

The court case over the GUI style was in itself a bit hypocrite as the Mac os was styled after the Xerox alto and star GUI

[@yudit3184]

Apple makes great software and hardware. Microsoft makes... I guess office is good.

[@APFLAC]

Surface, Windows 10, Office, Azure, Xbox. Apple just makes hardware and software better than MSFT but does doesn't mean MSFT is making bad hardware and software atleast nowadays... Aheeem Bob

[@de132]

Microsoft can make great software and hardware, but they're more inconsistent. They churn out too many products and it bogs down their quality like Apple used to do. They don't have the focus of Apple.

[@JimV.]

Albert Paul Fetalino, The surface is shit, windows 10 is shit, there is a reason i only use that shitty OS for a few games, and do everything else on macOS, windows it is Buggy, and the GUI is horrible. never tried Azure but its probably shit, and the Xbox is also shit, Consoles except for the Switch should not be used anymore, just use your computer to game, ffs the only, ONLY Thing that microsoft has done that isn't Shit, is working together with nintendo to make cross-play a thing

[@APFLAC]

@@JimV. can you substantiate your claim why Surface, Windows 10, Xbox is shit. If you could not, STFU.

[@JimV.]

i didn't want to go into detail, but You made me do that, Thanks for that! ass

[@runforit420]

It was pretty awful how Microsoft forced Apple's hand to license the "look and feel" of the Mac for future versions of Windows in 1985 by withholding the Applesoft BASIC licence if Apple did not agree. Scully had to sign that. That's why the "look and feel" lawsuit was decided in Microsoft's favour in 1994 because of that 1985 agreement. This was the same year that Microsoft purchased Apple's MacBASIC programming language for $1 and promptly discontinued it - it was sooo much better than Microsoft's version of BASIC for the Macintosh. That tidbit is in the "Revolution in the Valley" book. www.nytimes.com/1988/03/24/business/company-news-apple-and-microsoft-disclose-a-1985-pact.html

[@theglitchingman68]

If Apple and Microsoft work together it will be called APPSOFT

[@f.puttstycker2784]

@03:45 never new DOS was windows? It sucked. Apple ii and iii orange text!