Dua Lipa: 'Radical Optimism', Songwriting & Headlining Glastonbury | Apple Music

GRAMMY Award-winning singer and songwriter Dua Lipa sits down with Zane Lowe in her London studio to discuss her third studio album, ‘Radical Optimism’.
Dua shares with Zane what the songwriting process looks like for her, including the notebook where she wrote most of the songs. Dua opens up about headlining the Glastonbury Festival in 2024, which has been a dream come true. She shares her experience working with a small group of close collaborators, including Kevin Parker from Tame Impala on this album who she's long been a fan of. In a wide-ranging conversation about navigating stardom, writing vulnerability, and growing in the midst of her Saturn return, Dua shares her thoughts about life and music ahead of the release of her newest body of work.
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[@LovedByYou]

This, is her realest interview to date. She’s always rather quite private, I feel like this sit down allowed her to be honest, self aware, and comfortable. Watching her journey since the beginning has been remarkable. It’s only UP from here.

[@Itzzy515]

What a difference. Miss TS can't stand criticism and uses it for personal revenge and "karma". An immature and childish reaction. Dua says she doesn't take criticism as revenge. She listens, improves and proves with her work the opposite. A mature, healthy, positive and chill attitude. The maturity of someone of 28 and someone of 34. Dua's attitude is the best example for youngs not the attitude of the other singer that thousands of her little fans are sadly learning.

[@lumi24_7]

She about to get the pop album of the year again, & i'm here for it

[@jenn4766]

YASSSSSSS

[@helenogbonna3361]

Why hasn’t she collabed with tay swizzle

[@el.grantelbart]

Just listened. Unfortunately not

[@pablofigueroa4949]

just listened. fortunaly YES

[@VEGAS-NERVE]

lol no

[@bryanidrovo574]

i went to her listening party last week and it felt JUST LIKE THIS!! she is so well-spoken and chill!! the album is AMAZING!!!!

[@PinkPosies-dk7qp]

I CAN’T WAIT TO HEAR IT! My excitement is crazy… it feels like Christmas Eve!

[@JeiElRai]

Was that held in NYC?

[@SallyAbood-ut8wt]

omgg luckyyy

[@dualipatour]

Grammy winner : LOADING ..

[@mbarkaboha2783]

Nope

[@juanpedrohidalgolopez8721]

​@@mbarkaboha2783 yes, mate. she's going too, I freaking visualize it.

[@mbarkaboha2783]

Come here a year later and you'll see that this album won't win her any Grammys. I actually like her music but this album is just not it mate!

[@el.grantelbart]

she got the name radical optimism from a podcast she attended 4 years ago „are we on air“ episode 40 with dua lipa at minute 12-15. she even said she‘s gonna use that

[@kyhxx]

. etc- “ grt usecase” spmmd^

[@margaridacorreia5818]

Seeing Dua getting emotional while talking about her music, her growth, the process and her maturity really touched me. Not only as a fan, but also in a personal way, I feel that I've also grown up with her and her songs, which were always there for me, always accompanied me during the journey, to cheer me up, but also made me feel a lot stronger and confident. I'm so proud of her and I really can't wait to hear the album... It feels like I'm about to receive a birthday present, even though it's not my birthday. Thank you so much, Dua. I really can't wait to see you (again), in Lisbon, this summer. ♥

[@erinenk]

It feels like this to me too, I exactly have the sames impressions ❤️

[@helenharris9698]

Oh, that scribble was a bunch of dirty words and thoughts. I bet I'm right too.❤❤❤

[@helenharris9698]

I'm so intrigued by the song ' These Walls '.

[@jamshedmurtazaev3303]

She's a real superstar of our generation

[@erginoda7250]

She’s not just a singer, She’s clever You can tell She reads a lot Mature Pop Artist

[@LovedByYou]

Great role model. You can see how much Glastonbury means to her, she almost couldn’t keep her emotions in. It’ll be a magical moment for her. It’s her Super Bowl.

[@XolieMahlangu]

After watching this interview, I'm even more excited for this album. I love how she took the criticism and made sure that she becomes one of the big names in the music industry. She's such a pop star and I can't wait to listen to this album.

[@alexd1121]

TS, Beyoncé, Duo Lipa and Ariana Grande have released albums so close to each other. Great year for Pop 2024.

[@mcarolina.ramosr]

dua lipa has always been a revolutionary singer

[@erikamigone3251]

Gosh 56 minutes to short...I could just talk and talk for hrs with her....mature intelligent woman ...exactly knowing what she wants...at the same time fun ...living life lightweight...being an inspiration for so many of us....goodluck on this new era....and let RADICAL OPTIMISM take the world...💖

[@TheKarateKidd]

I'm absolutely blown away at the level of maturity, insight, and depth Dua shows us in this interview. This is a whole other side of her I've never seen before, and it's amazing 🤯

[@anziocc]

when it comes to interviews Zane is the best

[@shaunhoward6838]

It's coz he's Kiwi 🇳🇿😉👌💯

[@101doreen]

Concur.

[@LibertyOrDeath-ms5rf]

He's annoying, talks too much...

[@SleepingHowl]

I was honestly really shocked & suprised when Dua Lipa blew up worldwide after the release of "New Rules". I'm so used to the Queens of dance pop coming from the United States. Very proud as a guy from the U.K that Dua a U.K artist is becoming the new Queen of pop for a whole new generation.

[@Jeffcardenas09]

I think that the general public has a huge misconception towards Dua Lipa. People believe she's one of those artists crafted by a record company. that she has no creative control or intelligence to write a song. This woman is a fukcing genius and we need to make sure the GP takes her more seriously because she REALLY DOES her music. SHE IS AWARE of the creative process and SHE REALLY MAKES decisions about her music. Go DUA!! can't wait for RADICAL OPTIMISM AT NIGHT !

[@jamshedmurtazaev3303]

She's a real superstar

[@BronzeAvery]

she's such a class act i love her

[@Ebow00]

Great interview. We got a lot more from it than from a lot of past interviews promoting the album, in which they basically just kept asking her the same questions and she kept giving the same answers. Here it looks like Zane really prepared and took the conversation to more unusual places

[@fedem14]

I HOPE IT'S A GOOD ALBUM I NEED IT TO BE A GOOD ALBUM PLEASE

[@MStcs19]

It's Dua. It will be ❤

[@gretetbr]

I absolutely love Zane's interviews,the way he just lets the person be open and vulnerable throughout the conversation.Interesting questions and viewpoints that also gives us food for thought.

[@monochromeduo]

one of the best pop girlies out here rn

[@henriguisa]

Futute Nostalgia already felt so professional and grown up, but now, i can see that fn was a stage of maturing and radical optimism has dunked from that fountain!

[@101doreen]

Her honesty, vulnerability, and emotional maturity is what makes Dua an amazingly beautiful human. Absolutely, love her!

[@melisaxoxo536]

“Can it just keep getting better…… “ such an album of hope n having optimistic approach

[@Rayaann]

I’m so excited for the album!! Please stream everyone ❤❤❤

[@BDTTK9]

The notebook being a special guest in this interview was such a nice touch. You can tell this album has that personal touch with Dua having a heavy hand in the writing process

[@stefaniaduarte7174]

album of the year

[@jamshedmurtazaev3303]

She's aspiration for millions

[@melsyoutube]

god i hope dua’s glastonbury set is at least 120 minutes long. 45 mins for radical optimism 40 mins for future nostalgia 25 mins for dl1 and other singles/collabs 10 mins for crowd interaction/speeches. 2 hours for a potentially incredible headlining slot at the most important festival in the country.

[@marychapman177]

Brilliant conversation between two highly gifted and intelligent people. Zane's interviews are always great - this one is exceptional. I love that Dua takes ownership of her work and her catalogue. Also the attitude to online activity is healthy - showing the younger generation there is life beyond social media. That she writes her lyrics long hand in a notebook and does so many diverse things such as Service 95. 💖💖💖

[@damonchampion823]

Radical Optimism is such a great vibe and album title 🩵

[@vanessamaroon]

I’m only 10 minutes into this and it is so fabulous, so real and honest. What a great interviewer as well, he does and incredible job of listening and providing a safe space, truly excellent… and the album is a total bop as well ❤

[@Jassymonique96_]

Radical Optimism is so good. Perfect album to start off the summer with ⛱️ obsessed. Dua deserves all the love❤

[@seerpou]

"i felt like i wanted to keep something for myself" somebody try teach this to taylor swift

[@erikvanderheide1440]

I’m pretty sure the 11 songs are all gonna be fire, Dua prioritizes quality over quantity

[@anish6688]

Girl I’m 20 mins in and hope they talk more about the production of the album

[@JeiElRai]

That's not what Zane really does, and it's usually saved for after a release. By later summer we can probably expect a lot of behind the scenes footage, commentary, and extensive interviews with everyone involved particularly Dua and Kevin. TBH after listening to so many interviews with Dua, I'm really looking forward to hearing from Kevin.

[@user-cq8ge7ql8r]

it's 19 minutes for me in and all they talk about is the production of it. what you mean?

[@alechemy]

I think they mean “production” in the technical sense (instrumentation, sampling, mastering, technique, etc) Which yeah is not discussed much here , certainly not in the first 20min

[@JeiElRai]

@@alechemy @alechemy if we look at album rollouts in general recently, we can see that artists, labels and press are taking fuller advantage of the potential of KZbin and such to scratch the itch that an increasing audience has had for said technical stuff... But indeed it's not usually until after the project is fully, or at least mostly, rolled out. Presumably this is because the general public may have limited interest in all that, so it doesn't serve well to generate hype leading up to the release. Rather after the project is released, those who are into all this stuff will get increasingly curious about it just in time for some content on it. See how Rolling Stone (or was it Variety? I don't really remember or care much lol) released a deep dive with Dua and Mark in studio, on the making of Dance the Night. Regardless of when they may have shot the piece, they released it specifically after some time, when the song and movie had generated a lot of buzz so that the video could maximize engagement. With these niche sort of things, the whole music industry is aware we dig this stuff and we can consistently look forward to all kinds of insight coming from midsummer through the end of the year. Undoubtedly music press around the world will be knocking down Kevin's door for commentary. Hopefully we'll hear everyone's perspective! I'd love to see some fuller discussion with him and Dua just like they did with Mark previously, on at least a few tracks from the LP. We can be confident we'll get at least some mix of BTS footage and exclusive interviews in the coming months.

[@Itzzy515]

​​@@alechemyDua is not in charge of the production, only of the lyrics and some ideas. You need find the producer to talk about the technical aspects, musicianship and instrumentation. In this case Kevin Parker and Danny L Harle the producers of this album. Like Taylor Swift and Jack Antonoff, Ariana Grande and Max Martin, Biilie Ellish and her brother. Remember the majority of pop divas aren't musicians only songwriters and colaborate with ideas nothing more. Their main focus is the image and their voices to sell. In the background are the producers who are musicians and are in charge of the technical aspect. I'm sure that Dua dk about the samplers, intruments, software, etc, etc that was used in this album production only Kevin and Danny so the interview is focus in her thoughts about the album, ideas for songs and specially her like the image of a pop diva to sell. Maybe in the future Kevin could give a interview talking about his production in this album like Finneas does with Billie's albums.

[@lucasgonzalez7210]

The amount of thought and work that has gone into this is amazing. I’m sure the album will be amazing!!! I just hope people are able to recognise it and truly appreciate this work of art!!!

[@m.e.5]

One thing abt Zane, is he’s going to facilitate an incredible conversation! Dua’s such a game changer, and she’s still rising. Loved learning more abt her, TYSM

[@officialpeteytv]

I love her! She’s such a sweetheart. And natural born star!

[@jaydenkrishen]

This album is going to break records. Calling it rn. Dua is one of the greatest artists of all time ❤

[@EmmanuelHernandez-ww3wk]

I genuinely love you so much Dua, your words got me emotional! 🩵 such a beautiful interview

[@Blackk101]

This hair color suits her so much

[@carlosgallego3821]

Love how present and conscious she looks

[@mcbriani1]

I love how grounded she is and her journey is really amazing, she deserves everything is coming!

[@ipekeldem9641]

From the very beginning, I love and appreciate how sincere you are, Dua. Thank you for continuing to be yourself and helping me to better feel and express the emotions in me. Wish you all the best of luck with what's coming next! Sending you love! Looking forward to seeing you in Istanbul.

[@dominikastrauss5208]

Well said❤

[@danmorton4913]

Such a fun journey these last 8 years seeing her grow into the classy star she is. Good for you Dua!

[@FelipeRR7]

a truly real pop star, I love how Dua does her work with such truly, realness and realling marking her time here.

[@erikamigone3251]

Can't wait to hear all the songs ....they have so much essence I feel....DUA I hug you with all my 💖....soooo ready !!!....🎶💃🌊

[@iveylynmay]

I really appreciate Dua's positivity. Especially in the world we are living in today. We need more of her.

[@tuftofflowers]

thank you for the album. sending love

[@melisaxoxo536]

my fav lyrics “can it just keep getting better can we keep falling forever”

[@nicklog17]

The Queen of Pop is bout to release album of the year next Friday, bye 🌊🩵

[@MadininaCarribean]

Grandmadonna disagrees and is angry right now.

[@andrealopez-rx7ce]

Omg really?!? Yey

[@wisteriasinensis6080]

girl-- it comes out tonight not a week from now don’t mislead people

[@erginoda7250]

This Album is Epic Thanks for being a blossom of this Summer

[@andrewjohnston9115]

The moment when he made her say she was headlining glasto - such a beautiful moment and the happiness was just wholesome.

[@matthewsedillo7062]

I absolutely love Dua a lot I’m a huge fan of her’s I absolutely love her music I listen to her all the time me and her were both born in 1995 I got her new album the first day at target she is the best I want her to win a Grammy and pop album of the year for radical optimism

[@aymen2104]

i m here from the start dua from your first album to this ; you re the reason i keep my self happy and in a positive state , your art , your voice i mean i wish i can come to your canser ones in my life , i love u so much

[@yyzgrrl]

Such a great interview!!

[@karupe9982]

Zane is so excited he had to stop himself a few times, Dua is so chill, I absolutely love this

[@sofiabessette7025]

another hour interview - thank GOD

[@jamshedmurtazaev3303]

My British queen 👑

[@DenialShreds]

She's such an amazing inspiration as a musician myself

[@_ag635]

i really want this album to get number one on billbord and bb200 it seems like this album is so personal to her the way she taljs about it eith such passion and love please all the US loves lets make it her first one

[@priscilafaria1036]

Dua, we can wait to see you again in Brazil 🇧🇷❤

[@PinkPosies-dk7qp]

She is a goddess. Her creativity has brought so much joy and meaning to the world. Thank you, Dua… AND BRING ON RADICAL OPTIMISM! ✨

[@bluemint4359]

She really is a true Popstar, so proud of her! 😊

[@elinabek2373]

I love the fact that she has gone so far in her journey of personal development as a person ❤

[@jahanzebaftab]

Who's Staying Up Until Midnight Friday To Listen To THE ALBUM!!! THIS PERSON!!!!

[@raniascardigan]

I'm so proud of her 😭♥️

[@kevinng9951]

Good listening to you speak Dua. Thanks Zane Lowe for getting all this out. Love Kevin

[@AlexShannon]

This is a fantastic interview

[@mariamilavazquez]

I love the maturity of this album. The song Maria, where she thanks the woman who helped shaped her partner. We tend to blame the past partners for damage but forget their impact that had a positive impact.

[@shaunhoward6838]

She's definitely referenced Kylie Minogue alot.... 💯👌😉👠

[@msscrazybuthappy]

My favourite these days!

[@pharaohcaesar]

I'm completely looking forward to her live headline performances❕🔥🎆🌋👑💖😀

[@dominikastrauss5208]

Love Dua and Zane, such a good combo, so happy to see your dream come true 🎉🎉 Congrats👏

[@Timothyrpiano]

Really excited for this album!

[@qendrimkras]

She’s amazing and she inspires me to write more songs!

[@christophermoultrie4343]

Love Dua Lipa !! Great great she got talent

[@FiremanDuval]

Am I the only person who finds Zane’s line of questioning to be pseudo-intellectual? I like that he listens to his guests and lets them speak (unlike the Jimmys lol) but sometimes I feel like he rambles so much but says nothing at the same time 🤣

[@michaeltylerable]

100% It’s like he wants everyone to know how deep/intellectual he is with every interview he does. He needs to learn how to get to the point quicker and dispense with all the flowery language.

[@Itzzy515]

Yes he is trying so hard. Annoying.

[@siyanakaraasenova4614]

Honesty and truth are always high valued from the audience no matter what

[@micaelamartinez8607]

THE GOAT OF POP LOVE YOU FOREVERRRR

[@jamshedmurtazaev3303]

Pop anthem is coming

[@jasony8002]

Mmmmmmm ever since the British awards you have been a rock star so Glastonbury is in for a treat xoxox xxx 💋

[@JeffiMathew]

Biggest pop artist out there❤

[@MadininaCarribean]

Grandmadonna disagrees and is angry right now .

[@alejandrovillagomez2810]

Who else is doing it like Dua 👑

[@idontknow808]

I'm obsessed with her !!!!!❤❤❤❤

[@dearshine4540]

Here for it

[@DorothyOzmaLover]

Niiiice, Dua Lipa is always a treasure so her notes here are ssssweet!

[@PaulAlter1]

Dua is a tiger on stage and so reflective and pensive in interviews. She does seem rather real in this interview, especially by the way she wasn’t pronouncing her “T”s and other nuances. She gives off the feeling of being secure in what she’s achieved thus far, and is not full of herself, almost as if she knows coming up with hit after hit may not last forever, so rather than dwell on when that day may come, it’s far better to be Radically Optimistic. She says doing this for a living has helped her mature early. I also get a sense that she’s incredibly well grounded, that her parents instilled in her that getting to the top, and staying there, is hard work. Several times she uses words like “in this job”, or “what I do for a living”, rather than ‘profession’, which says a lot about her perspective and work ethic. It’s also worth mentioning, that all the extremely capable people I know, all use a notebook, rather than their phone, to organize their day and thoughts. Another important thing she said is that you need to write bad music before your good music comes out. Many people say that is the path to success. I wrote this at the 15 min mark, and later she talked about her parents.

[@Chili1976]

these walls, happy for you, end of an era, illusion ❤

[@vagelischila4841]

Such a great role model ❤😊

[@tuma0000]

I love that thanks guys, it’s just RADICAL OPTIMISM for real. Dua🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥♥️💪🏻

[@anasteisshhee]

love Dua so much💞

[@user-ni8og4ct3u]

Dua lipa es una super estrella de esta generasion ella es maravilloza❤💥🇻🇪💥❤

[@archmichaels]

I love Zane he is such a good interviewer. Billie's interview for the live-event of her documentary 'Billie Eilish: The World's a little blurry' was the first video of him I've ever watched, and oh boy, I was hooked. He Always brings the best out of his interviewees while remaining an outstanding listener. He gives the whole flow, yet let the artists remain in total control therefore creating a safe place for exchange based on mutual trust. Dua wasn't the popstar here, just Dua, the artist, the human being. What an interview. Congrats to both and their teams. 👏 🙌 👏

[@crryyinggg]

Teared up at the Glastonbury part 😭😭😭😭

[@patrickfrauendorf7452]

Nice interview ❤😊

[@levitorating]

she's my diva, she's my mother and she's my life persona inspiration!!! the world loves you dua 💗

[@dominikastrauss5208]

Love Dua ❤❤ My favourite artist 🤩