APS-C BEATS Full Frame

[@BoorayPerry]

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[@nikolaysarandiev5730]

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[@obedbrinkman]

it's not a war and no one is gonna loose, we have choices and options, be happy that we do - each system has its pros and cons

[@andyeighttre]

I never thought I’d find a group of more pissy happy fan boi’s then wakeboard boat owners and ar15 owners and even more so builders. But here I am proven incredibly wrong by photographers and to a lesser extent videographers.

[@Cocom0h]

The argument you made during the history section is, hands down, the best argument I've ever heard for switching from Full-frame to Crop sensor

[@BoorayPerry]

@@Cocom0h Thank you! 😁📷

[@iggytse]

It’s right tools for the right job. When I started doing social media content at bodybuilding shows in about 2013 I used a Canon G1X which had a near apsc sensor. I had photos from it published in national magazines, newspapers and tv. Nowadays the main tool is an iPhone 12 Pro Max that takes good enough photos for immediate upload to social media. I would dare say it has better low light performance than my own eyes let alone my Nikon D810 which seems to irritate other Nikon users. The only camera system that matches it is a Sony A7Siii which I’ve seen people shoot astrophotography hand held. I do think Nikon is sticking with full frame as their good lens are still full frame. Their apsc bodies and lens are still budget and is the same with Canon and Sony. Fuji is the only brand that went in hard with apsc.

[@johndonaldson5126]

Correct. I've been shooting APS-C for several years. I kept upgrading both the Sony bodies and lenses. I finally ended up with an a6700 and seven decent lenses. But I still struggled with low light. I've been shooting ballet... 1) Poor lighting seems to be a standard for ballet. 2) I wanted to freeze frame so really want the subject to be still. No such luck with ballet which is all about movement, and sometimes fast movement of hands and feet. So ballet photography conditions are low light and fast movement. This is the most difficult photo challenge I've encountered. The first shock was how heavy the new body and lens are. After hearing, reading, and watching videos over the years I was fully convinced I had to step up to FF. The promise was I could use a faster shutter speed with FF. You know the argument is larger photo targets equals more captured light. I've had the A7IV body, and the 24-70 f/2.8 for about two weeks. I've tried many things to compare the A7IV and the a6700 but honestly they are so close I feel like I wasted my money. In some cases the a6700 betters the A7IV. In some cases it's the other way around. In any case the benefits of one vs the other are so slight that picture quality is really no better with the FF. Then little by little I ended up puzzled that I couldn't push the A7IV to solve my low light needs. It seems almost anything the A7iV can do the a6700 can do too. My advice to Sony is come out with a6900 that has two card slots. Nothing else is required.

[@HectorLopez-wc8fx]

From your keyboard straight to Sony's R&D department. I have their 6400 and feel no need to upgrade until they come out with the aps-c that has 2 card slots. Until then, I'm saving my pennies.

[@rsat9526]

Do you still keep your A7iv? I have had similar experience... I tried A7iii from a friend and I could not tell which one is better but I feel my A6700+lenses are cheaper that one is a fact that I am pretty sure of.

[@ScentedSagebrush]

Great stuff! So relieved that I will not get cancer from my X-T1! :)

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

My first mirrorless camera was the Canon R5. It was a fine camera in many respects. But I'm a bird shooter, and reach is often my biggest concern. After a buddy of mine (who owns both the R5 and the R7) suggested that I try the R7, I rented it. Loved it so much, I bought one, and just started killing it with that body. The reach was phenomenal (usually with my 800 F11). After that, my R5 just sat on the dresser. Finally, I sold the R5 and bought a second R7 for my backup. That was over a year ago, and I never looked back :) This said, I think if I were still into landscape photography, I'd have stuck to my R5, as I do believe it is better for that purpose, than are my R7's. I should add though, my R7's have about a half a dozen things that could be improved, and I'm hoping some or all of these things will be resolved with the R7 Mk II. But even so, with reach being my priority, the R7 is still my best choice.

[@SmileyBoy]

Yeah but what apsc cameras come with the same features of full frame cameras? Like what apsc model would be comparable to the hybrid capabilities of the Sony A7IV?

[@philipchristy9210]

Pixel size and number per square mm is similar in a 10 m crop sensor to a 24 m pix full frame.Does this mean a 10 m cmos crop sensor should have the same low light performance..? It’s a question I don’t know..

[@BoorayPerry]

That's a great question. It's hard to say because I don't know what differences there are between the two sensors when they have different pixel counts. You would need two sensors that you describe that are the same in every way except for pixel count and overall size to test it.

[@ArtoisB]

You are quit right. Always interesting to listen to you stories. I’m an old “wet” photographer - 78 years young - and started in the studio with 8 x 10” cameras. After that the medium formats and now fujifilm APS-C with stunning results

[@GirijeshKN]

Why not MFT all logics extends to MFT

[@stanmorinaka4551]

Excellent video. I really want to carry around a lighter kit, and with APS-C, it makes it possible with very good image quality. This video made a lot of sense to me, and gave me enough confidence that I will be happy with this decision. Thank you! You have another subscriber.

[@BoorayPerry]

Thanks 🙂📷

[@ronmorris4983]

Hi. Went from Dx Nikon to Olympus. Best thing I have done. The current OM-1 is in my opinion as good as apsc for the same reason and will only get better. Can’t wait for the next mft sensor. Also got a X100f. Love that too.

[@ronmorris4983]

4:08

[@trfisher78]

My first camera in 1973 was a Nikon FTn, but my first camera in the digital era was a Nikon D3200, then a D5500, next a D7500 all aps-c. My first and only full frame DSLR was a D750 and with all of these cameras I had several lenses in both aps-c and full frame. I sold all of my DSLR kit when I moved to mirrorless, with the exception of my af-s 80-400mm G. Now I'm shooting a Nikon Z5 and for the money it's a great camera. However, I've noticed if you want fast lenses there's a better selection in aps-c. Viltrox is killing it with their lenses.

[@BoorayPerry]

Viltrox is really coming on strong..

[@3dtrip870]

I have two mft, one apps-c, and one ff. The recovery and dynamic range is impressive on the a7r3 I use; but for many, many reasons I reach for my GH6 or Olympus em1 m3. Sometimes I can’t see the difference between the mft and ff (except for megapixels of course)…but sometimes I can. So, go out and have fun with your gear, they are all pretty amazing!

[@AlGreenLightThroughGlass]

As a hybrid shooter, I'm pretty comfortable with Fuji. I usually shoot manual focus and 1080 for my KZbin videos. Most views are on cell phones or monitors so that format works well still. The biggest priority is stability and the XT-4 with its firmware updates and with 16-80 fitted is rock solid. It's also light enough to throw on a DJI Ronan mini gimbal for tracking shots. The sensor is a good size for video considering super 35 - a crop sensor - is the professional filmmaking standard. So no need to switch. That said, some new FF cameras are great value prospects. The Panasonic S5-2 with 20-60 kit performs well on price, stability, focus, and overheating prevention.

[@quirkworks4076]

Thank you for this! As a pro since the 80s, I have had the pleasure of following the tech developments around every curve and corner (except medium format). These days I shoot both APS-C and FF and on any given job there are several bodies lying around and I just grab whichever body/lens combo is right for that moment. I never, ever ponder which size sensor I'll need, because, as you have proven, 99% of the time it just doesn't matter! And guess what folks, in 35 years I haven't had a single client ask a question about any of this. As far as they are concerned, "Peter's cameras are the black ones, I think..." And yes (hahaha), I can't wait until my APS-C tech catches up to my iPhone! You have a new subscriber!

[@gainde1137]

Why Canon is going full-frame only (RF series)?

[@BoorayPerry]

Because they can sell it.

[@matthiasj668]

One variable that's missing in the video is "depth of field". If I use a FF lens on my APS-C camera, I will need to step back to get the same field of view. The subject will be further away from the camera. Result is a less shallow dof. What that means is that potentially, FF will have a shallower depth of field. Now, on aps-c this can be solved by using very fast lenses. However, this gets more challenging on even smaller sensors (e.g. smartphones). The artifical generated bokeh can't yet compete with real bokeh, and I think that this will be the main challenge for the smartphone, that is not won so easily

[@BoorayPerry]

I did a video about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3ylf5l-eayZfJo :)

[@adnan_velic]

As a former Sony a7iv, Nikon z6, S5, shooter and now shooting xh2s and xh2 I completely agree.

[@aliaswave]

I shot FF Nikon since they were first out then Sony FF. I bought a Fuji XT-3 and XE2 and sold all FF gear and don't even look at other brands anymore. I'm happy with my Fuji's.

[@philipgilligan_art]

I am quite happy with Fuji too

[@frankthissen3338]

Same with me. The D850 and lenses were extremely heavy and my Fuji is lighter, the same the lenses are, if you do not use the Fuji 50mm 1.0 😉

[@JerryMungo]

My xt-3 is a near perfect camera for street shooting and night photography. It's small and light and I like having the dials on the camera so much that I now shoot manual all the time.

[@robertbland5131]

Fuji xt is just as good even better than FF ….

[@boxeriain]

I did that. And I saw the results my gf gets with her d750, and I think I got sucked in by the hype. FF wins and it's cheap

[@robertmccutchan5450]

I'm glad you touched on software. I recently dusted off my old Canon 10D (6 megapixel APS-C), and I was pleasantly surprised at how good the images look with modern software compared to what we used in the 2000's (pre-lightroom). I can boost the iso a stop or two more than I could in the past and still get good results. I shot a wedding with a 5D Mark III, and used a 90D as a second camera with only available light. I couldn't tell much, if any, difference in the image quality between the two. I'm thinking of selling my full frame cameras and getting another 90D. Thanks for posting!

[@robertmccutchan5450]

I wanted to add something to my comment. I just spent an afternoon photographing wolves in a research facility. I took a 5d MkIII and a 90d for the shoot. I fully intended to use my full frame camera for most of the shoot, but I ended up using the APS-C for 90% of the shoot. After editing this shoot, I am going to sell all of my full frame cameras and buy another 90d as a back up, and build a system around that.

[@FernandoSLima]

i am a canon 90d user and love it... i will use as long as i could find bodies to buy.

[@davejsullivan]

I absolutely love my Olympus micro 4/3 cameras. It can do everything I want in a camera. Also, my OM-1 can literally do things that no other camera on the market, that I know of, can do. 50fps with autofocus and 120fps without? Pretty cool tech. Noise has become a nonissue with the help of DXO Photolab. It’s just a fun camera to use that has more than good enough output.

[@thepirateshoots]

Fuji owner is absolutely jealous. Olympus is a fine cam. By the way: If the image is tack sharp, a little bit of noise doesn't upset me at all. It's a structure, pattern, grain if you want.

[@BoorayPerry]

It's a shame they are retiring the brand name. Another one gone.

[@stevebarr8487]

Yep, me too, I have a OM1 and I have the EM1X. Shot mini weddings, events, portraits with these cameras and I use photo lab denoise and after that every thing looks great.

[@3196453]

What about using your camera as a scan tool for film?

[@BoorayPerry]

No idea. I have no experience with that at all. :)

[@billwinward9324]

Just stumbled upon your channel, Booray, and I love it. Not sure if it’s because you’re banging the drum for Fujifilm (I love their products) or just your wonderfully relaxed presentation style! Whatever! I will now be working through some of your older videos.

[@ernstfrohlich897]

I can see the difference. That´s why I sold my APS-C camera.

[@jovianr9498]

Maybe if you pixel peep or make very large high quality prints, silly boy.

[@paul.newland]

😂

[@Mrcsitari1]

You are rly professional😂 , and you think that superminimal diferent will make you better ?

[@ernstfrohlich897]

@@Mrcsitari1 not me, but my low light images.

[@ernstfrohlich897]

@@jovianr9498 You can't judge that because you don't have the experience.

[@wysinawyg]

The resolution of the lenses in lp/cm still limits the useful Megapixels to about 26-30. Thats why I took the XH2s.

[@ΝικοςΖωχιος-χ8π]

Back in 2004, i had bought a Citroen ZX in red colour! It looked like a Ferrari from a distance, so i was very happy and wanted to share my view with other people who avoided paying for a red Ferrari! because they were feeling very happy with their Citroen ZX and Nissan Micra

[@Lesterandsons]

😂

[@jimthomson9044]

Ran on to this You-Tube video quite by accident - love it! Have been using a Sony a6400 as a replacement for my older Sony NEX 6 (upgrade); having so much fun with lighter-weight, smaller APS-C gear. Easy to travel with and cost effective. Carry one 18-135 APS-C Sony lens when traveling. Never check luggage when flying; maximum flexibility; strictly carryon for day pack and bag. Armed with Lr and Topaz AI, I can "fix" almost any low-light compromise. Just bought a 11-20mm Tamron zoom - will add it to my travel kit. Thanks for a great video. Will be following your podcasts too. Sony just released 3 new APS-C lenses in their "G" series.

[@maddhendrix]

Love my Fuji. Your spot on about the lenses. From the 400$ range f2 primes, the new f1.4 primes, the macros, the 56mm 1.2, the 90 f2. The zooms, the list goes on and on. I just picked up the new 30mm macro and I am in love. That little lense is magic!

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Why is Nikon stuck on Zfc, Z50 & Z30 using same body and without prime lenses 😅?

[@OllieConnorsFilms]

Agreed completely. Photography is evolving and APSC is becoming more convenient to use.

[@flyindividual]

Great content as always Booray. I’ve been using my Nikon D500 for 5 years and I’ve been very happy with it. Recently, I dusted off my 11 year old D7000 and was blown away by the images. All the picture controls including Neutral, Vivid and Landscape look more muted than D500 and closer to real life. The resolution looked pretty good on my 2021 14 inch MacBook Pro as well. I primarily use D, pre D, AI and AI-S lenses and I love using them all. Using manual lenses makes me feel more connected with the process of photography and it’s the closest thing to meditation. Subscribed.

[@BoorayPerry]

Thanks!!

[@waltermayr339]

Absolutely correct. For decades I have dragged my Plaubel 5x7 up mountains and heights. Then it became a Linhof 4x5, which became the Nikon F4 (wonderful device). To my surprise, the D7100 was also a great camera. And now, at almost 80 years old, it is MFT. And my enjoyment of photography has never been greater.

[@philiprolenick4475]

I shot with a Canon FT from 1968 until I went digital around 2003 with a Canon Rebel XTi. upgraded from one Canon APS-C DSLR to another for nearly 20 years until I got my APS-C R7. Canon has always held back its APS-C lenses, forcing me to use full-frame lenses, but the mirrorless shift has made their great old EF full-frame lenses cheaper (and usable with a cheap adapter) and I just got Sigma's RF-S 18-50mm f/2.8 lens, which is great. The 1st Canon-licensed AF lens, it's the size of the kit lens but as sharp as the legendary EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II. I'm still tempted by the R5 for low light, but I'm hoping they'll upgrade the R7 with a stacked sensor for better low light performance.

[@andrewriley4990]

AWESOME video most valueable and usefull information !

[@trevorfentiman5283]

Totally agree and the way software is progressing it now makes sense, I used a Fuji xt1 and loved it so much I got the xt4 which is so much lighter than my canon and with the latest software it’s better than I need

[@joeprete7424]

Gifted with a Broadcaster’s Voice!

[@BoorayPerry]

Oh, I worked for that voice believe me. 🙂

[@Bethos1247-Arne]

I was reluctant to open this video as I just bought by first fullframe camera a couple of months ago. I am a fullframe guy now. Of course I agree with every letter Booray uttered.

[@ajeromemahon7808]

I'm in a similar situation. But buying a used full frame and then getting used pro lenses in the future seems like the right way forward to me. But also the shallower depth of field is invaluable really. I love my 35mm 1.8 apsc lens for environmental portraits. But having a full frame lens that I can frame the exact same composition but get shallower depth of field. That's noticeable. If I'm in a hotel room for instance blurring that background is going to make my life easier. What's the Fuji equivalent to a 35 f1.4? That's a 23 f1.5. but I guess maybe it's like he said there still will be a use case for FF. But atleast for me in weddings I'm confident I made the right choice

[@Bethos1247-Arne]

​@@ajeromemahon7808 to get comparative DOF if would have to be 23 mm 0.9 or f/1. Physically possible, but not available. I use 35 mm 1.8 on FF, an APS-C comparison would be 23 (or 24) mm 1.2. If I shoot wide open, that is. A 23 mm 1.4 lens is available, and gets more or less close to what I use in FF equivalent. A 50 mm 1.4 lens of course is difficult to replace, but even with my 1.4 lens I often use f/2, so 35 mm 1.4 is a more or less similar APS-C counterpart. Having FF, I like the possibilities of course. A 85 mm 1.8 lens is affordable, while a 56 mm 1.2 lens, which is the equivalent, costs quite a lot. (The camera price difference is still greater than the savings with the lens).

[@ajeromemahon7808]

@@Bethos1247-Arne I'm not sure, but I think shorter focal length fast lenses are harder to produce. Also I'm not sure there's a 24-70 f2.8 equivalent.

[@ajeromemahon7808]

There are exceptions I know. But I think we are safe in these purchases. Especially since I'm pretty sure the wider the focal length the harder it is to make good fast lenses. And true equivalent lenses will still be almost as heavy and expensive.

[@Bethos1247-Arne]

​@@ajeromemahon7808 in the Nikon world the closest thing is 16-80 2.8-4, so it is not an actual equivalent at any setting. Still a useful lens, smaller, less expensive, and longer than a 24-70. I would consider 24-70 2.8 quite a special lens, really needed only in rare cases. Of course when it is needed, it could be added to the selection.

[@manikmahajan3453]

i agree with this guy completely

[@BoorayPerry]

You, sir, are a scholar.

[@brianjames1233]

I shot weddings on medium format back in the 90s, but shot the ceremony on 35mm. I remember gladly making the switch to 35mm only! Even though I'm a year late seeing this, I appreciate the insight as I am considering a Z8 purchase to replace my D500 as a main camera. My only problem is that it seems that the best tech goes into the FX cameras like the Z9 and 8, to go small sensor I would have to step back to the Z6II I think. IDK, I'll do more research, maybe think about switching from Nikon to Fuji. But I'm a little grey in the beard myself and not too sure about changing systems.

[@BoorayPerry]

The only reason that I switched was that I knew I had at least another 10 years to go and my equipment needed to be replaced. 😀

[@brianjames1233]

@@BoorayPerry Now I realize that the Z6II isn't a DX after all...I'm learning though.

[@ssgairassault1020]

I shot both full frame and crop sensor DSLRs. Last week, I got the Canon R10. At 66 years old and fully retired. With today's technologies has come a long way on the crop sensor. The price, weight, focus detection and images are impressive. The only gripes I have are the short battery consumption and the lack of crop sensor (RF-S) lenses. I am using my old EF-S lenses with the adapter.

[@btecww]

Thought provoking 😮 I have been using an full frame R6 for wedding work. I recently purchased a R7 for video and back up. However I had to the apsc R7 for photos. I was shocked at how close the quality was to the R6. I was rooted against the R7 because my R6 was $900 more but there is not a $900 delta. For pride sake I must remain bias because I am invested $$ in full frame

[@wffj-tv2652]

I bought my son's Nikon D-750 when he upgraded to a Sony full frame three years ago. We were both happy with our upgrades. Then I bought a Fuji XH2s in Fall 2023 for better video performance (the D750 is good for pics, not for video). I use my camera for news gathering stills and documentary videos. I love the user interface, film sims and overall experience using the XH2s. You, Booray told us all about the Classic Chrome sim in a past video and that's what I shoot my stills on mostly, now (Eterna for video). My D-750 stays in the bag most of the time, I rarely use it. After I switched to Fuji, my son then switched over to the Fuji X-T5 for his wedding photography. He is buying a second X-T5 for his second shooters so all pics will be the same color. So, while we both agree full frame is nice, The Fuji experience is better and neither of us care about only having an APSC sensor. At the end of the day if you have happy clients who pay you, that's all that really matters.

[@BoorayPerry]

Well said. :)

[@MontrencoPerez]

Good video. Who knows what technology will bring. It is a fact that smaller/lighter has its advantages. I shoot all formats (FF, APS-C, M43) and I like the results I get from all of my gear when used in different scenarios. Also, thanks to the obsession to switch to mirrorless (latest technology) sometimes for no reason the market is flooded with great used DSLR bodies and lenses at a fraction of their prices.

[@SpecialBrewCan]

Shooting a Nikon D810 & Fuji X-T3, I can attest to the fact that DXO Pure Raw 3 is a game-changer when used on higher ISO Fuji files, that narrows, if not largely eliminates, any differences between APSC and full frame image quality. And I would imagine that the newer higher resolution sensors on the X-T5 and HS2 makes any differences even more insignificant.

[@NormanZealandMalana]

I shoot Nikon DSLR. APS-C, and full-frame prices, are, in general, not the big, in this market. Also, Sony has so many full-frame mirrorless cameras in the used market, right now. IMHO, now is the time, for more people to actually get into full-frame, via the used market, because we grew up, just dreaming of full-frame, and it's benefits. Even older FF sensors, can perform better than newer, smaller, sensors, specially if the camera was a top-tier camera, during it's time. While I see your points, I really can't see FF going away, anytime soon. Larger sensors, will always have advantages, as you said. Just depends on one's needs, and preferences.

[@tlewisAK]

I still rock a Nikon D500. It was Nikons APS-C flagship for years. I’m perfectly happy with the output, and I shoot Auroras, Sports, and wildlife. You hit the nail on the head at the beginning of the video, glass is the great leveler. No one cares as long as it looks good. Quality of glass has a bigger impact than the camera sensor size.

[@rocketmanab]

Took me a while to figure this out. I have the Fuji XT-2, and instead of upgrading the camera I've been investing in good glass...that's where I really see the difference.

[@dennisjones5579]

This is a very delayed reply, however I do feel the need to comment. I too have a D500, which I've enjoyed, however Nikon is not improving lens selection for DSLR's much less those with DX format. So, I'm considering going to mirrorless and Fuji. In all the comparisons I've reviewed between the D500 and the current Fuji line up, none are rated better than the D500 for sports or wildlife. In there lies the rub for me... and I want Fuji for the film simulations. I recently bought the x100v for travel and really love the sims.

[@KevinG-159]

Boom goes the dynamite! 💥 The best comparison yet! Thank you BP!

[@BoorayPerry]

Lol 🤣🤣

[@JeffGillis-lv1rz]

With a apsc kit what can be done to improve low light image quality?

[@BoorayPerry]

What ISO are you using? I shoot at 3200 with no complaints.

[@whfowle]

With me, it is weight. I still have my full frame gear but it mostly sits on a shelf. Small and light weight drives my recent purchases. Fuji sold me on APS-C with their outstanding lenses and X-Trans sensor. I've also been building up my Micro Four Thirds system too. I can carry a full set of gear in a back pack and not have a sore back. Both the Olympus and Lumix line produce great images. Now, I only bring out my FF when I want a A0 or A1 print.

[@robstammers7149]

Hi, I use a Canon T5i (700D) APS-C and a SONY dsc R1 (which has an APS-C sensor). Everything you say here is correct, we've seen the light.

[@np-ql2ih]

Good video! Thanks. It's worth noting that on the uses market the Canon R6, A7 iv and Nikon zf/z6 ii are around the same price as Fujifilms latest cameras. They all have bettee low light capabilities, can produce a shalower depth of field and likely have better autofocus. Also adapted pro full frame lenses can be cheaper than some Fuji Lenses. For those concerned about size aps c might be the way to go. On the other hand many sony and even canon primes are quite compact and lightweight but those zooms do get very large. Besides the sigma 1.8 zooms there are no apsc zooms that let in as much light as full frame 2.8 zooms. It's a great time to be a photographer, there lots of amazing choices.

[@BoorayPerry]

Excellent comment. Thanks! 👌

[@psoet]

Very insightful and solid points. I’ve already converted some folks to Fuji 😅 A big win for us Fuji shooters is that I’ve noticed lately with FF shooters they love the SOOC image, even the RAW. It looks soooo good out the sensor, minimal work can be done in post. That’s a win 🥇

[@korteksvisceralzen2694]

Just got the LX100M2 and loving it! Yay micro 4/3

[@johntaylor8822]

I have a APS-C Nikon D5500 with acceptable lenses. I use it often to take photos to support my art work. However I am often looking for the picture within the picture and will thus crop a lot. I suspect FF would handle this situation better.

[@mikeray4902]

Now is the time to look at Micro 4/3s. I also was a full frame Canon shooter until I broke my neck at work. I needed a lighter alternative to the brick I was used to carrying around my neck. I didn't want to sacrifice image quality but lighten the load. I purchased an Olympus OMD EM-1 Mark 3 with 5 lenses for $500 from a pawn shop! My Canon full frame cost $1600 for just the body! My 50mp Canon 5DSR cost $2000! The 5 axis in camera stabilization has almost removed the need for a tripod. In-body image stabilization with up to 7.5 stops of shake reduction. The speed and accuracy of the Auto-focus is one of the best in the industry. If I am worried about Mega pixels, I can do Handheld at 50mp and 80mp on a tripod. Fully articulated back screen. For the most part all the controls you will need to take a great exposure on the top of the camera. Extras such as bracketing, white balance, and others are in the menus. And the entire kit with all the lenses, body, and extras, weigh less than just the DSR and a 24-105mm lens. All of this is cheaper than a full frame or aps-c camera. So, I am saying that you did not go down the rabbit hole far enough to see that first if you are a photographer, the camera is a tool, not the end result. Second, as you get older and experience. You realize that you don't need to bring a shotgun to kill a fly. This is supposed to be fun!

[@Cotictimmy]

The more the influencers bash big full frame cameras, the better I like it. It reduces the used prices of those big, beautiful things.❤

[@BoorayPerry]

Well, I like to think I'm not bashing so much as just pointing out that history repeats itself. I love those big beautiful things. in fact, I have the opportunity to borrow a Fuji medium format camera and never do it because I'm afraid I'll fall in love. :)

[@worldadventuretravel]

I'm already at a disadvantage with DSLR as a street photographer until I can afford mirrorless, so I'm not about to add more bulk by going to a full frame camera. OR having to buy even bigger lenses because of decreased focal length on a ff sensor.

[@will0747]

Hello! I thought that I was the only one who thought like that :)! I have fullframes and APS-C and they are wonderfull but my D7500+sigma art 50mm-100mm f 1.8 is umbeatable! a beast of a lens! people ask me , why I still use APC-S then I show them the results, thats enough!! congrats for the video, really enjoyed!

[@nicerides9224]

I bought a nikon d3500 over a year ago mainly because it was cheap and the kit included the usual 18-55mm lens plus a 70-300mm. The reviews on it were good and it takes great photos. I've added a 35mm 1.8, 40mm 2.8 macro, 50mm 1.8 and 10-20mm wide angle lens to my collection. The amount I paid for the lot would only buy me a FF body with the same resolution (24mp). There would have to be a huge difference in quality to justify the extra weight, size and price of FF compared to what I have now. My s10 phone takes reasonable photos in most circumstances but it can't compete with the d3500 when it comes to macro or wildlife photography. With some landscape shots if you are only printing 6x4 you'd barely notice the difference. Only once you zoom in do you really notice the extra detail from the bigger aps-c sensor and better glass. Considering the huge difference in size of sensor and lenses between my phone and a dslr I'm impressed at how close it is sometimes. When it comes to video I use the phone which takes 4k footage which looks great even on a big tv.

[@JeffreyHauser]

GOOD ENOUGH (APSC) is GOOD ENOUGH! Completely agree with you Booray! Sold my Canon 5dsr & ALL my Canon gear & Fuji has met my needs at a much lower price point with respect to their cameras & lenses! Clients would be hard pressed to see any differences between APSC & full frame. Zack Arrias has a good video on comparing various film formats, prior to digital cameras.😊

[@charliejg]

Camera companies are definitely under pressure to compete with phones for that old point and shoot market. Not only is it smaller, but it's far easier to quickly post to social media from a phone. This is one area where Fuji needs to make a big change. Their app is just not cutting it today.

[@thepirateshoots]

Jep.

[@thepirateshoots]

There are many 35mm photos which are phantastic! And the grain is a pleasure to look at 📷🎞️📷

[@maggnet4829]

Not only Fuji, Sony is another example for a horrible app that is slowly killing their camera sales in the non professional market. Connection issues and a clunky interface with a lackluster of features are the leading problems.

[@charliejg]

@@maggnet4829 You'd think this would be quite an obvious lesson learned from the phone industry.

[@jroar123]

I'm still shooting with my canon 70D and it does a good job even though its a few years old. I have off-brand name lenses that helped with cost. I shoot as a hobby so spending tons on gear just didn't man sense. Would you have a suggestion to what camera I should add to my collection? I am sticking to the aps-c sensors as well.

[@BoorayPerry]

So many choices... it really depends on what you like. Of course the X100V is a fantastic camera but not for everyone. The X-T5 is their best seller and an X-T4 or 3 is still a great buy. The X-T30 is small and takes all the lenses.

[@zoide-777]

Have you considered the X-S20?

[@qbncrzn]

Dude, you just saved me so much $$$$

[@BoorayPerry]

🤣🤣📷📷

[@doggosupremme]

The dynamic range is directly tied to the software's ability to bring out information in the highlights and shadows by the way :) I loved my old fuji x-e2, but the modern prosumer mirrorless full frame cameras are objectively better technologically speaking (and not too far off size wise). From auto focus, to video, to IBIS, to dynamic range, to lens technology, to the ability to use color profiles while shooting in RAW (an area fuji seriously lacks behind). I think whatever camera you prefer to use is best, but when you have jobs that require you to use a full frame sensor, the expensive xt-5 system is going to be useless.

[@larswara2124]

I love my Sony A6700! Noise is not a problem up to about 1200-1600 ISO. If there`s a lot of shadows to lift at these ISO-settings, or I have to use 3200 ISO+, Adobe Denoise works superb!! And , as you said, much, MUCH cheaper and more compact/lightweight high quality glass from Sony, and Sigma, Viltrox etc 🙂

[@Mattithias]

I have a Sony FX3 and the A1 and could never want anything more. FFFL full frame for life. I used to have a Panasonic GH5 MFT but finally upgraded. I’ll never go back.

[@domtomas1178]

All very true! I also shot Canon full frame for many years and then the Fuji bug got me. Not for the lighter kit, but for the manual operation. I love the tactile dials for SS, Aperture and ISO. I use my Fuji X Pro 2 daily, and love the experience of taking photos with it. Yes my Canon has much faster AF, but when I use my X-Pro2 it’s not about that. It’s about taking your time and enjoying the process. One thing I did when I first started using the Fuji, is I purchase the SpeedBooster focal reducer, so that I could use my legacy lenses and the field of view was FF equivalent. More recently I’ve started using prime Fuji lenses and it’s fine. Just have to remember that a 35mm is actually a 50mm filed of view and so on. - on a side note your comparison to a FF camera with a f2.8 zoom lens would work if the lens for the crop sensor was a f2 Zoom. And unfortunately Fuji doesn’t make any. So it’s more like an f4 Zoom for the FF camera.

[@raymeedc]

I shoot 75% with my vintage legacy manual prime lens collection. That being the case, I shoot with Full Frame, APS-C, & micro 4/3 with the same lenses with two handfuls of cheap adapters. Each format has their advantages and disadvantages, which I exploit as needed. I have a couple of modern automatic lenses for each when the mood or situation strikes.

[@GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496]

Great video and insight into the evolution of camera technology. I can see that my purchase of the X100V was partly driven by my years of iPhone photography. The form factor of that little Fuji seemed a perfect fit … combination of size, design, manual controls and the shooting experience!

[@pouchboy1]

I learn a lot from your various content. Always compelling. Fuji man here, though I think Fuji repair services in the U.S. need drastic improvement. Can you make some calls and fix? 😅

[@osvaldoverduzco3900]

I was waiting for a 50-150 f/2.8 APS-C lens but got tired of waiting so I got the FF Tamron 70-180 f/2.8 G2.

[@tjschmal]

The problem with APSC is/was, that most manufacturers used the crop sensors primarily in the cheaper entry level cameras. That‘s why most FF cameras are better: Not because they are FF but because the FF sensor is built into the better cameras. For me APSC was always the sweet spot. That‘s why i like the Fuji system so much, because they are developing top of the line professional cameras based on APSC sensors and they are proof that APSC is indeed as good as FF. Both have their Pros and Cons but the differences are minor and - if relevant at all - dependent on your style of shooting. IMHO it‘s all personal preference … nothing less, but nothing more. Greetings and thxs for your videos.

[@nicholasalcock1366]

How are finding producing large prints from the new 40.2MP sensors now? I'm thinking of upgrading for the XT-4 to either XT-5 or the X-H2 as they both have the bigger sensor in MP's

[@BoorayPerry]

I haven't made a large print yet but I can't image it will be worse than the 26mp sensor I was using before. Should be better.

[@nicholasalcock1366]

@@BoorayPerry Thanks for the reply, Juts thought you may have done a large print for wall art from a wedding. How was the 26MP sensor at large wall art?

[@BoorayPerry]

@@nicholasalcock1366 It's fine. You have to remember that the larger the print the further back you stand. The relative size of the print to the viewer is much smaller. This is why we can have billboards.

[@ebenezergarbrah5255]

A newbie! Finally settled the issue for me. Perhaps a secondary market for full frame cameras might be interesting for a newbie?

[@puddin12dt]

Awesome video!

[@geuskoeman721]

very clear for me thanks

[@brucesmith9144]

Size, weight, and price matter. I looked at a Canon EOS R. It’s a beautiful camera with great features. RF glass is state-of-art too. But I could not get the image out of my mind how big it was. And it doesn’t come cheap either. I had wanted to try Fuji after hearing good reviews and seeing their image output. Smaller and lighter are definitely chic these days. Going out for the day to shoot pictures should be pleasurable, not back-breaking. And thus has my Fuji adventure began. That was 3 years ago and my X-T30 is still great as an everyday camera. It takes amazing pictures.

[@CrispyJacketStudios]

Been saying this for many years now. I moved from med format film to 35mm film then finally settled on apsc. I’m a very happy Fujifilm shooter since the XT3 and thinking about the HS2. I’m keeping a close eye on mft too but depth of field will plateau unless, like as you say ai is used like in phones…

[@scrubjo1]

At what point in time did APS- C become the thing? How old of a camera can I use and get the benefit of the best app- C?

[@BoorayPerry]

That's a good question and I would say that just about any mirrorless camera will be fine. It's almost impossible to buy a bad camera now

[@mrz1342]

Hi, now we are close to summit 2023 and rumors for new 100vi with 40 mp and better video features and wider lens. Do you think it worth to wait and buy it (if the rumors come true) or buy the current 100v that is available for me? I own GFX100S for pro photography but I need second body for other kind of photography. I am not sure really 40 mp is necessary to have on 100vi or not?! I don’t mind for video features because it’s not my concern. So what do you think? Thank you

[@BoorayPerry]

Well, first I would consider the source of the rumors I haven't heard anything about a new camera. I can't imagine that they will have a new one ready to ship within a year of the XT5, XH2 and XH2s

[@mrz1342]

@@BoorayPerry if it come true, then what’s your advise for me?

[@BoorayPerry]

I would be willing to wait 6 months for the new one but not a year.

[@asafoadjei1]

Buy the XT5 and be free

[@sonneblendet1140]

You are absolutely right. Even Smartphones get one inch sensors now. So smaller is more attractive for carrying around the tech. It will end somewhere at one inch or Micro four thirds i think

[@veeaa]

If they only used the whole sensor 1" sensor surface! But you are absolutely right, smaller sensors mean less work for computational photography and the smartphones are at their limits on sensor size without increasing the size of lenses. One inch might still be doable even if they don't use the whole area of the sensor while still gaining larger pixels than the older gen.

[@fede_1983]

In your opinion, changing from 6D mark II to 80D is a possible correct choice? I saw 80D images not really bad comparing with 6D II, and EFS lenses are cheap.

[@BoorayPerry]

It really depends on what you want to do with it. The 6D is professional grade and a fine camera. I'm sure it has many features that the 80D does not. If a hobbyist asked me what to buy I would steer them toward the 80D on price alone but a pro?

[@fede_1983]

@@BoorayPerry i shoot nature, landscapes, forests, flowers. Maybe portraits, but less. I'm not a professional photographer

[@BoorayPerry]

Then it comes down to price. Get whichever system will be most economical for you.@@fede_1983

[@pattymattes7124]

Okay so here is the big question of the day. If crop sensor is king why did Fuji produce medium format cameras with a big sensor? Yes, I follow some landscape photographers who swear by the bigger sensor's resolution. They even did videos to show comparison between that and the full frame. Just food for thought. I truly believe that choosing a camera system is a personal decision based on the photographer's needs. While a crop sensor works well for some it may not work well for others.

[@problemat1que]

Landscape is one of the disciplines where you can't control dynamic range

[@photorockbar471]

landscape at the top level has always been about medium and large format. If two sensors are the same quality as far as image rendering, then the larger sensor can process more information on a larger size sensor. So, it depends on how large the final print is relative to the viewing distance. Since medium format is not a standard sensor size, the difference relative to full frame may not be significantly bigger enough to matter. It really depends on the image, the light and how big the final output is.

[@melaniezette886]

What was true with film is true with digital. Medium format has the wow factor, you just want to look closer and closer and it is marvelous to see more details. I can mimic this with a telephoto and a giga panorama. It's far easier than large format film camera. It proves large capture is the way to large prints with no noise.

[@jameswelsh453]

great video Ive recently bought a ff a z6, I have a z50 apsc camera, 2 reasons I wanted a ff, first the z50 is small and i find it a little awkward to use (i have hands like shovels) my nose is forever pressing the display button and enlarging the view! But picture quality wise I haven't seen a great deal of difference. The 2nd reason I am 72yrs and thought Ive got to try a ff whilst I'm able! I've been into photographer since pre teenager, first with medium format 120 cameras (great) then into 35mm not so great, the difference in quality was very noticeably, I also have got back into film both 120 and 35mm interesting but expensive I like the 6 x 9 format, great for landscapes and big prints!!

[@BoorayPerry]

You've got a lot going on and I am still laughing at the problem with your nose 🤣

[@glennmichel6941]

Hello, it makes sens you are right 🎯 thanks for the video and all the best, from Switzerland

[@notmyname8527]

I know I'm not comparing apples to apples. I am trying to get into APS-C and recently bought the a6700 with the Viltrox 75 1.2. I also have the a7iv with the 135 .1.8 . I'm sure its the lens, but the crop photos don't seem as good as the a7iv. Also the full frame 24-70 2.8 wont have an equivalent 18-55 f2.00 in crop. I do wish I can rid myself of all the full frame body and lenses though. I moved away from Fuji as my X100 was spoilt twice within the warranty and both times it took them 2 to 3 months to fix it. Maybe because of lack of parts but it left a bad taste for me. I would love to revisit Fuji as a second camera only for the film simulations.

[@BoorayPerry]

You're right, it could be the lens but it could also be the camera. It may be that there is a difference and you see it and prefer one over the other.

[@jerryrichards8172]

I just purchased a so y a77ii aps-c for my first camera. I have been shooting 35mm since 1977 and never made the switch to digital. The a77ii fits all my minolta glass. I just ordered 2 a-mount aps-c lenses from tamron for digital cameras I'm hoping there better than my old minolta glass Wich is very sharp. So I quess I'll see.

[@raymeedc]

While eye agree with all you say, eye swing both ways. I absolutely LOVE my 5 Fujifilm cameras, but I also use a full frame Sony A7II for two reasons you neglected to mention. First of all is the fact that I have & use regularly a substantial collection of vintage lenses, which I vastly prefer to use as originally intended for the obvious reasons, especially wide angle wise. Secondly, it gives me more space for cropping when doing so. Each format serves a necessary role in my enjoyment.

[@domtomas1178]

Exactly, there are times when I use my Fuji X-Pro2 and other times when I need a full frame. One example is when I shoot with my Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art adopted, on the Canon R5. If I were to get an equivalent for my Fuji I would need to find a 33mm f1.2 as sharp and for about £500. Not going to happen!

[@michmcgowen619]

It’s just click bait unfortunately

[@bobjohnson9597]

I am a 1 inch sensor fan especially Panasonic zs200 and a MFT fan along with Canon and Fuji Apsc fan, Fuji with their Amazing film simulations for those of us who prefer spending our time shooting instead of spending our lives in front of a screen editing photos and videos. I must say however that I still own and travel with a Lumix MFT for 4k video and still love both of my original Olympus OMD EM5 and EPL5 cameras from 2012 which still work flawlessly and have travelled from the USA to Canada, Singapore, Malaisia, South Korea Japan and the Philippines with zero problems in extreme weather conditions on the weather sealed Olympus OMD EM5 and I actually still have a perfectly functioning Olympus EPL1 from 2010 in the Philippines that I loaned out. So hopefully they will become more popular as they have always for me been incredibly reliable.

[@jimmyhinAK]

I have full frame apsc and micro four thirds they all work fine i get good results from all of them. Not a pro photographer just hobbyist/collector/ backup photographer for my pro photographer daughter. She shoots with almost the same gear as me except for micro four thirds. Right tool right job and knowing composition wins every time.

[@brucegraner5901]

You make a compelling argument. I'm dabbling in bird photography during my retirement with a Lumix G9 and 100-400mm lens. Buttery smooth backgrounds are one of the biggest selling features of full-frame photography with long, fast glass. But I can't help but think with all the digital filters being developed for small sensor cameras that some mirrorless camera engineer is going to come up with a buttery smooth digital filter that will defocus anything behind or in front of whatever the APS-C or MFT camera is focusing on. I'll take that over most of the digital filters currently available and enjoy the kit that's lighter on my back and wallet.

[@photorockbar471]

you can defocus in photoshop. How many images do you need to keep as keepers?

[@loui.e0241]

u sound like my painting professor in art school also love ur videos.

[@BoorayPerry]

I'll bet your professor was AWESOME 😎

[@loui.e0241]

My professor is awesome, btw I’m planning on selling my canon eps rebel sl3 body for a fuji xt3. I’m excited

[@seaeagles6025]

Another great video Booray, the APS-C is going to be the VHS and the the full frame will be like the Betamax. Lucky me i will stick with my APS-C.

[@BoorayPerry]

We actually had a betamax when I was a kid. :)

[@photorockbar471]

Betamax lost because the big Hollywood studios went to VHS for more of their movies. Blue Ray technology was around for a long time, but it took over 5 years for the inventor to get Hollywood to release on Blue Ray. The rest is history. Often big business economics and supply and demand are the biggest driving factors versus the tech itself.

[@sergeantcrow]

Fascinating !

[@juanramoncruzalonso5979]

I started with Russian camera ( I’m Cuban) when I came to US I bought a Canon apt, then Canon 5 D markiii, Sony a7iii, end went to Olympus micro 4/3. Two years ago I bought a Fuji X-t3, and GFX- 50R ( for studio), x -e4 as a every day camera. Yesterday I got my X -H2. I don’t need FF anymore!!!!!

[@williamgollatz1911]

Missing from this video, are features, and functions that are typically included with full frame bodies. Maybe I missed it, but I am unaware of any aps-c camera that has better focusing, more body functionality and programmable buttons, and a better operating system than its bigger full frame. Sensor readouts, usability, and robustness need to enter a discussion at some point.

[@BoorayPerry]

If a company makes both full frame and APS-C and their APS-C cameras do not have the features you mentioned it's by choice, not because of the size of the sensor. Fuji is acknowledged to have a weaker autofocus then say, Sony. But body functionality and programmable buttons are fine.

[@dennisjones5579]

Hey Booray, any possibility you could do a similar video comparing APS-C with Micro 4/3? I'm seeing videos popping up exclaiming the virtues of that format, which I know next to nothing about. Thanks for considering

[@BoorayPerry]

I don't have a 4/3 camera but I imagine it's the same, really.

[@np-ql2ih]

Im curious, if smaller is better or is the future why wouln't you buy m43? I liked the video it was very well done. Thank you

[@robstammers7149]

What a fantastic video this is, I fully agree, I only shoot with my Canon APS C DSLR. I'm not interested in full frame, why? As you say cost, and of course you are totally right, Canon have released the mighty R7 and R10 for the prosumer market, and these cameras are APS C, and selling pretty swiftly. Point well made.