Aptera gets better local news coverage

[@shamblendavidson8166]

That is the most informed reporter I have ever heard. Usually reporters twist stories to fit what they want to tell.

[@richpate9436]

Once Apteras start hitting the street, everyone who sees one will want to know, "What the h'll is that? I want one!" Glad I have pre-ordered.

[@jamesloehr641]

​@kingofcrunk4237 they went bankrupt because of covid. Then had to start back up and start over. They had alot of work to do, make a car to test the driving dynamics, make stages of the car to figure out what the production car would be. They had to get partners and suppliers lined up in order to start production. Now we will see production this year most likely, they now have the funding to get it started.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

​@@jamesloehr641They started back up in 2019, so before Covid. They had closed down the old Aptera because they had brought in ab "expert" who ended up wanting them to do 4 wheel vehicles. I believe back then they were also doing gas engines

[@ASawyerInAZ]

​@kingofcrunk4237Aptera started up as a new company in 2019

[@DrTeeHenry]

@@jamesloehr641 Inaccurate. They liquidated in 2011 (not bankruptcy; reservation fees were returned) sometime after the current CEOs left the company because of the direction the higher-ups were taking it. They bought back the IP in 2019 to give it another go. Covid slowed things down but it had nothing to do with the 2011 liquidation. Covid wasn't a thing back then.

[@DrTeeHenry]

I saw this quote from John Grafman (Executive Director, AutoDesignO) some time ago that matches my feelings (and, apparently, yours) very nicely: "I can't wait to see an Aptera rolling down my street! That's just so rad. Little kids will be jumping up and down and dogs will be barking. The adults will be asking two questions: 'What is it?' and 'Where do I get one?''".

[@DemaGeek]

Good exposure for Aptera, the word is spreading further all the time!

[@NYCCEJ]

Finally great local converage, I knew you would cover these two interviews.

[@louisjov]

As someone who lives in Alaska, I had a thought unrelated to news coverage, but about the moose test that Beta previously crushed. If they have a functional vehicle at the end of the crash tests, they should perform another moose test, one where they actually hit a model moose. Collisions with moose are famously incredibly lethal, because they are so tall, the enormous animal just goes right through your windshield, and usually kills the passengers instantly. I suspect that with Aptera's high roof crush strength, and it's low stance, it might be one of the only vehicles on the road that's not a literal tank, that's capable of having a head on collision with a moose, and leave the passengers (relatively) unscathed

[@SteveBueche1027]

It’ll come right through the windshield

[@louisjov]

@@SteveBueche1027 I mean, maybe Google told me moose legs are about 3-4 feet long, and the Aptera is 4.6 feet high. If you hit that sucker at speed, with the low nose that Aptera has, it doesn't seem that unreasonable that you could potentially slide under it, with the body ending up on the roof. Hence the necessity of a test, because really, no one can say for sure what it will do until a proper test is done

[@SpunkyMcGoo69]

@@louisjov The more I ponder that hypothetical, and being the aptera nerd I am, the more I think you're correct. Regardless of wheel damage and over all vehicle damage, the A pillars and roof structure shouldn't deform to the point of putting passengers in danger. Combined with the sheer strength of the carbon fiber, a glancing blow at its legs should put it over the top of the vehicle as you barrel through. The windshield will be utterly destroyed (along with the solar panels and the front nose/suspension perhaps), but you'll live. I truly hope Aptera ushers in the era of widespread mass produced carbon fiber vehicles.

[@ryanl6316]

first piece was the best. Steve really has to talk about those price ranges. Many, many, many people would be interested in a $26,000 vehicle.

[@greenbergp]

Nice job. It would be cool to see a reporter having a WOW moment in the passenger seat.

[@johnvoules7447]

Nice to see positive thoughtful interviews with clear focused answers. papapa pizza, must make sure Steve Fambro is fed before interviews🍕

[@christopherbarrett9749]

Getting closer all the time. The rush at the closing of the Accelerator Program, coupled with the π production intent vehicle just about to be put through the paces for validation brings Aptera to a level up. No longer "vaporware" validation with third parties will prove the claims that Aptera has been making. That is going to attract the fat cat money, the whales will be opening the vaults, and production will be happening! The finish line is within sight, no longer over the horizon, but close enough to see. Kudos to the team at Aptera, and to those who believe in the concept enough to be on the leader board!

[@ericstarmer7779]

The "fat cat" money appears to be like cold fusion and room temperature superconductivity.........

[@christopherbarrett9749]

@@ericstarmer7779 more a function of interest rates, and the EV market being littered with failure. Lucid is hanging on due to money from Saudi Arabia, Rivian by Amazon, but most others have either gone bankrupt or ceased trying to make it happen. Lightyear, Lordstown, and yada yada yada. Aptera's timing has been about two years behind the frenzy to raise equity funds, but the crowd source has carried it far enough to get to validation. Once the proof of concept is validated, the risk becomes negligible. A risk assessment is harder when "facts" are still questionable. Once proven then the fat cats, or whales, got rocks, or whatever name you want, then they can open the wallets or vaults. The key at this point is centered around the claims which have been made by Aptera. Validation is what changes the vehicle from "vaporware" to reality!

[@randyland1000]

Agree!

[@artsmith103]

Remember when this was the promised September Surprise?

[@williamclark6466]

Apera is in common news programs and this will get curious people asking "how does this "fish-car" work and would it be a good car for me?". Yes, the coverage and story from the last program was excellent.

[@raymondhon4661]

Who else is excited that we Accelerator Launch Edition reservation holder may actually receive our Aptera later this year😊

[@kevroll99]

Great to see it getting more exposure and a positive person about it too!

[@robinpettit7827]

I don't think it is optimistic for end of year production and delivery. I personally think they are now in real negotiations for Angel funding to enable production. As you get closer to production what Angel funders can demand become less. We are getting to the sweet spot for this type of funding. I will be driving this in retirement so I hope to never plug it in except when driving from San Diego to my home in the Eastern USA or any other long drives.

[@mikegrok]

I think by the time they fulfill all of their current reservations the 1000 mile range model will be available. So it is not false. If someone hears about it on the show, and immediately goes and makes a reservation, by the time their number comes up, the 1000 mile range model will be available.

[@gr8dvd]

Kinda my thinking for ordering the 600 mile version.

[@richardryley3660]

I except it to take three years for the 600 mile pack, and four for the 1000 mile pack. That's including a year for production to start and another year for the first 2000 models to be delivered to Accelerators. The final year would be for development and validation of the extended length batteries. It could be even earlier if a battery manufacturer is already seeing a demand for them. The 250 mile pack may be ready as early as next year, if they stay on schedule.

[@mikegrok]

@@richardryley3660 their battery manufacturer started making the cells for the 1000 mile version in November. However due to the added weight they have to make changes to the suspension and re-perform crash testing.

[@lennym1636]

I only put about 1000 miles per year, that car would be perfect for me, can't wait, hope I can get one in my life time, I'm 62 now so who knows...

[@danielthompson3928]

I saw the noir! I cannot wait to get the spec’d out Noir.

[@richardryley3660]

The second interviewer was tickled pink about the Aptera and I think she's a convert.😂 That's not a bad thing, we need converts, and she did a great interview. The 1000 mile range is really overkill, and I think the 600 mile range will be the most popular. Still I think Aptera will make the 1000 mile range option eventually, because they promised it, and it's not difficult to achieve. A standard sedan EV battery will get 1000 miles in an Aptera, it's just a matter of paying for it. And the additional weight will make the Aptera safer and more stable. The only reason I say it is unnecessary is that the rate at which the solar panels charge the battery is constant. It will take 25 days to charge the 1000 mile battery on solar alone. So if you plan on using that range, you will need to use fast charging. You could use it as a daily driver and any excess would be stored away for a long trip. But it would have to be like once a month. If you're driving 100 or 200 miles a day, you'll need to charge ot.

[@spyro440]

The only real bad thing is that they showed multiple times a prototype without wheel covers with no mention that this is not intended to be the final vehicle.

[@aaronknight1009]

I love the Aptera but that steering wheel looks awkward as hell 1:15, I hope they end up having a full-wheel option shown at 2:08.

[@darthsirrius]

I kind of hope so too, but I don't think they will because it will likely block the view of the video mirrors that sit right above the steering wheel.

[@egeriaimageworks]

I think it possible to see delivery by October, at least for the Accelerators…

[@artsmith103]

Which year?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@artsmith103 You will come to regret your constant pessimism.

[@artsmith103]

@@n.brucenelson5920 I'm not pessimistic. I'm hopeful I can help prevent some people from donating to Aptera ownership. They continuously make fraudulent claims to increase donations.

[@christover1]

Good to hear their solar tech is being used for other companies, that will be an income.

[@stevemontana1878]

These were so much better for a couple of reasons. The production with Chris was controlled and Chris nailed all of the points in the short time they have. It is Chris’ job to be optimistic here and adding qualifiers on his timing statements would not help the discussion, but draw unnecessary doubt. The interview with Steve was not a production, but you can tell Steve was much better prepared. The interviewer had very little to do with the improvement, it was all Steve. Steve has a lot to say, but he disciplined himself to be on a succinct message for clearer communication. I think Steve was much better prepared for the questions and the practice just allows him to get more comfortable.

[@claytonholton2749]

I’m ready to place my order after seeing the news breaks announcement of Aptera!

[@tims8603]

I love pizza! Fambro is, obviously, not really comfortable in 'off the cuff' interviews. He did well though. The interviewer in the 2nd clip did a great job. It's great to see the media coverage. The more eyes that see it, the better.

[@GBRHatRoom]

I am very happy they showed the Noir Aptera. This is the color I have ordered. Do you think the non-launch editions will get their vehicles by end of 2025? My order was from 2022 and in the 45K range on my ID.

[@richardryley3660]

I expect that once the 2000 Launch Editions are out of the way, color choice is going to be one of the first options they implement, even if it's just Luna, Noir, and Sol. So yeah, I expect that by the end of 2025 if they stay on schedule.

[@artboymoy]

I feel that Chris had the better presentation and representaton for the company. Steve is talking about surfboards to a Chicago viewership. I'm not sure people are even aware of Fiskar's vehicle. Just to be a little bit clearer about segments like this is that some are kinda sponsored. This could be the start of some hard media/ advertising push. I think they could talk about the launch model coming in around 33K. EDIT: My bad. I thought this was the Chicago ABC station but it's the Bay Area (SF, I assume) station so yeah, plenty of surfers around.

[@LiveLoveLyle]

Let’s go Aptera!

[@allenmoses110]

This is the future!

[@DrTeeHenry]

Yes, great interviews. Just the beginning, I suspect. I still think a 60 Minutes segment would be great, but maybe that's to much to ask for. It was interesting to see Chris M driving the Gamma around without wheel pants and the rear wheel covers (also "wheel pants"?). I'm going to try to grab a close-up of the mechanical stuff around the rear wheel.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

Pants in front, skirt in back.

[@richardryley3660]

There are renders of the frame and suspension. I don't know that any of them show details of the rear wheel motor though

[@scottgabbard662]

I agree. That was some very good reporting. They did their homework.

[@garywozniak7742]

That was a great interview and exposure.

[@yggdrasil9039]

The acceleration on these cars is right up there with Tesla. Looking forward to seeing these being mass produced and out on the road. Going to be competing with the Cybertruck for weirdness!

[@JayGrant-hi5ms]

Great topic Steve! I hope to see more local coverage leading up to the PI.2 chassis reveal.

[@NeilBlanchard]

The second report has some odd footage - of sci-fi movies? I am glad that one report has Chris and the other had Steve - they are both not typical softball questions.

[@ernest795]

I disagree, saying our top end model has 1000 miles of range is exactly how they should be phrasing it. That makes clear to people they can get lower range models while promoting the company as being above and beyond everyone else.

[@christopherbrand5360]

400 miles of range is right at the top of the market. Look at range per purchase price! Aptera is targeting a clear leadership position. I wish Steve had led off with how the launch vehicle gets 400 miles on battery alone and there would be some addition of range be solar during a trip and/or at destinations. And how it adds miles of charge really fast at a charger too, all because of the efficiency!

[@ericstarmer7779]

Not sure whether it can charge while driving - normally it's not possible to charge and discharge a battery at the same time - can any electrical engineers comment on this ?

[@SteveBueche1027]

Maybe it’s the spare 12 volt battery located to balance the weight?

[@christopherbrand5360]

@@ericstarmer7779 when a battery is attached to a circuit with a voltage drop it discharges (a short circuit is the greatest possible voltage drop) and when it is attached to a circuit with a voltage rise, it charges. The load (e.g. the motors) creates a voltage drop and the supply (solar charging) creates a voltage rise. The load and supply can happen at the same time and offset each other resulting in either a net load or a net supply, depending on the power consumed by the load and the power provided by the supply. All EVs can charge and discharge the battery at the same time, but they usually have an interlock to prevent driving while plugged in for obvious reasons ;)

[@garywozniak7742]

​@ericstarmer7779 the current from the solar panels will offset the drain on the battery while you are driving. So it won't charge the battery but it will enhance the range by reducing the drain on the battery. More detail. You can't charge and discharge a battery at the same time because current can't flow in two different directions in the same wire at the sametime. . The current flowing in or out of the battery is the charge current (current coming from the solar panels) minus the load current ( the current that the Aptera is drawing from the battery) if that number is negative, the battery is discharging. Such as when you are driving the Aptera. If that number is postive, the battery is charging. Such as when you are parked. There are laws describing how currents behave in a circuit. In this case two currents, the current coming from solar panels and the current coming from the battery add while the battery is under load. So the "load" draws from both sources. Effectively the current from the panels offsets some of the drain from the battery. That last bit is explained by Kirchoffs Current Law. byjus.com/physics/kirchhoffs-law/#:~:text=equal%20to%20null.-,Kirchhoff%27s%20First%20Law%20or%20Kirchhoff%27s%20Current%20Law,node%20has%20to%20be%20null. "According to Kirchhoff’s Current Law, The total current entering a junction or a node is equal to the charge leaving the node as no charge is lost."

[@christopherbrand5360]

@@garywozniak7742 unless you drive slowly enough! Given 700W output from solar, that should move the car at much better than walking pace on solar alone. An elite male cyclist can produce 400W continuous, and that is certainly enough to get an Aptera to roll. It would be a fun demonstration to show how fast the Aptera will move at a range of power outputs, starting from what it takes to roll, on up to peak solar output.

[@jameshwang4750]

pretty reporter helps too

[@danam0228]

The first was more of a news segment than an interview given that the news person did more presenting/narrating than Q&A which is what the second news person did. Both were all around great. The first covered a lot more, seemed to have stuff edited out that might have been nice to see and hear. Steve's was very short, and he did very well considering how short a time he was on air. Just one thing though - I would like to see Chris dress a bit nicer liie Steve, not so casual. It is an interview after all.

[@prometheuse6318]

Finally a good news story on Aptera!

[@CRuM770]

In 10 years, when they have fulfilled the pre-orders, I'm hoping to get one.

[@gospelofthomas77thpearl22]

Love your work! 🫶

[@unclegeorge7845]

Yes, we are over selling a bit. Odds are that no one will get 40 miles a day. The 1,000 mile range will be available when the breakthrough in batteries occurs. The $26,000 unit most likely never come out. But hey, we're selling cars here - not prescription drugs. 😕 I read the Seattle Times online version and there's our Aptera in an ad right there most mornings. I'll follow the link the next time it comes up.

[@richardryley3660]

No one will get 40 miles a day every day. But I saw a video where a physicist did the calculations and he estimated that the Aptera would actually get 45 miles per day max. So very possible on sunny days. The 1000 mile battery is possible today. It just uses a size of battery that isn't commonly available. It's just a matter of adding enough batteries, though, and it's not like it has to drag around a Cybertruck. The $26,000 model most certainly will come out, and it will be EASIER to make than the 1000 mile battery. It just requires removal of some components and half the batteries in the pack. The bigger issue is if the Launch Edition can hit the $33,500 target, if it can't, the whole line will go up in price. But there's no evidence that pricing has changed. New battery technology will only improve the performance of the Aptera.

[@unclegeorge7845]

@@richardryley3660 I like math too. I'm always impressed with real world rubber on the road experiences too. I expect that by this time 2025 we'll have some of these doubts answered in real data and observation.

[@richardryley3660]

@@unclegeorge7845 Well, keep in mind that the prototypes have confirmed a lot of these numbers. So it's not a matter of whether the Aptera will get 40 miles a day on a bright sunny day or 20 miles a day on a bright sunny day, but whether the Aptera will get 42 miles per day or 38 miles per day. It's a difference between verifying the accuracy of the estimates, or believing that the company is engaging in fraud.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@richardryley3660 No prototype has ever had a working hatch solar panel. Given that, how do you figure Aptera has "confirmed" the numbers?

[@richardryley3660]

@@johnreeves7261 Are you sure that Gamma has never had a working hatch solar panel? I'm pretty sure I've seen it with one. You will have to provide evidence if you:are going to claim it is a mock up. I know that Gamma has a working hood solar panel, because Chris demonstrated one, made with the new glass manufacturing process. From the data produced by that panel it should be possible to calculate how much the full array of solar cells will produce. Unless you want to somehow claim that 10 solar cells don't produce 10 times the power of one solar cell I'm not worried.

[@huskymcfluff]

I'm interested in Aptera, but I'm not comfortable with pre-ordering a car. Maybe in 2025 I'll consider getting one. I'd _really_ like for us to come up with a battery that's more environmentally friendly to make than Lithium Ion batteries are. Cobalt mining sucks, and at this point in time I just don't drive enough to make an EV worth purchasing for environmental reasons. I fill my SUV up once every other month or so. I've had it for seven years and I only just crossed 50K miles. Although, I suppose an argument could be made that I'd be contributing less greenhouse gasses to the environment if I bought an EV and ran my own errands instead of paying DoorDash and Instacart to do it for me.

[@gr8dvd]

Another (possible) incentive, free transportation (fuel anyways) AND reduce powering house with unused Aptera solar energy. Another possible opportunity to reduce emissions/costs is car-sharing (not ride-sharing).

[@amosbatto3051]

The Aptera Launch Edition will use EVE Energy's NMC811 2170 cells, because those are the most energy dense at 290 Wh/kg, so the car is more energy efficient. If Aptera used LFP at about 200 Wh/kg or sodium ion at 160 Wh/kg, they would not contain cobalt, but the vehicle would be heavier and thus require more energy per mile to operate. If you are using grid electricity to charge the car, the average kWh in the US emits about 380 grams of CO2-equivalent, so a more efficient vehicle will emit less. Once you calculate the extra copper, aluminum, lithium, graphite and silicon (additive in the graphite), plus the extra plastic in the separators and steel in the casing for LFP, the manufacturing GHG emissions are actually higher for LFP than for NMC, according to several lifecycle analysis studies.

[@huskymcfluff]

@@amosbatto3051 I think this has got to be the single most informative reply I've ever received on a youtube comment. Thanks for taking the time to write it up and post it.

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

Aptera needs more local and national news coverage in Australia. The future is solar, and that means everywhere.

[@willstreckfus4248]

Fantastic interviews. Only thing missing was charging with a 110 outlet.

[@willstreckfus4248]

To clarify…get over 100 mile charge overnight with a 110 outlet.

[@takenoshortcuts]

Indeed.

[@bertrandp2977]

I like Chris M. slowly riding Gamma behind the reporter, like creeping on.

[@spyro440]

Also had a laugh there, was like 'I WATCH you, don't tell them something wrong... "

[@gr8dvd]

I also believe in the adage… under-promise, over-deliver. 40 miles per day charging, 1000 mile range, etc. Hopefully Aptera will hone their message.

[@richardryley3660]

As long as you understand that both numbers are under ideal conditions, there is no issue. If you follow Aptera you know that 40 miles per day is on sunny days and the 1000 mile pack is not yet available.

[@gr8dvd]

@@richardryley3660 "If you follow Aptera" These news segments are free ads. Now reread my comment (& yours) assuming you’re attempting to reach an audience who are NOT following Aptera.

[@richardryley3660]

@@gr8dvd Steve and Chris have always emphasized that 1000 miles is a planned maximum and not the case for every model, unless interrupted by the interviewer and unable to finish their statement. While they may imply that 1000 miles is the standard range they never actually say that. I think it's reasonable to assume that 40 miles a day means on a sunny day.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@richardryley3660 It would be reasonable to assume that 40 miles a day means on a LONG sunny day. A.K.A., only in the summer.....

[@richardryley3660]

@@johnreeves7261 No, it would be reasonable to assume that 40 miles is for an average sunny day, that is, 12 hours. Why would you calculate it against a different amount of time, especially since the length of the summer solstice depends on latitude? The maximum would be 80 miles, at the north pole in summer, right? Is Aptera saying that?

[@leicaman]

I saw a neighbor parking one in his garage. I think it was one of the CEOs in this video. I will buy one in about ten years when my hybrid’s battery croaks.

[@hollywoodguy70]

I'm confused. The thousand mile version isn't scheduled anymore? It's still on the configurator. 😮

[@richardryley3660]

It's still scheduled, it's just it's not going to be as easy as slapping some batteries into a pack. The 600 and 1000 mile battery packs will use batteries similar to the existing 2170 batteries but they will be up to twice as long. While I think these are specialty batteries for certain application's, they aren't manufactured in any numbers. They will have to partner with a supplier to start turning them out.

[@Name_Lessness]

It'd be best if they quickly showed the website where they allow you to build the Aptera. It takes 10sec to just scroll down and see colors options, pricing. I noticed however it says on the site *prices are subject to change. Oftentimes that's a bad thing to see preproduction.

[@gr8dvd]

Honesty is never bad and the very early buyers aren’t going to be dissuaded, nd will appreciate not being blindsided.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Rivian tried to announce firm pricing, then tried to change it due to costs, and had their lunch handed to them over it. Aptera has learned from that mistake. They will announce firm pricing once they know their cost structure, which is still months off. Battery pricing is still changing rapidly.

[@Name_Lessness]

You're right. Pricing needs to be locked in. I'm eagerly awaiting Delta production. If their website was like all the other concept EV concept companies I would have been turned off immediately. They have a really good upfront esthetic reflected on their site.

[@glennmorgan4197]

I think one of the important things he missed is the fact that an Aptera vehicle is so light it will make it much safer in case of collision. It will simply bounce off the other vehicles like those composite vehicles from Russia. Of course you would need a five point harness to make sure that your body doesn't bounce inside the cabin.😊

[@Jose.Q_]

It looks cool tho I like it , I would get one but the only thing I worry about is if it's going to have a spare wheel with tire or not if a blowout/flat tire happens and is it going to be simple to change if a person doesn't mind doing it themselves , especially with all those panels that's covering the wheels

[@makesaveinccomm]

Why they keep said 47,000 orders? Last April 2023, my latest orders was number #55,000 my first was in 2000 ish... (forgot what year) 😅😅😅

[@Carl_in_AZ]

What about KSWB-TV FOX news coverage?

[@GentleBrawl]

Do these have windshield wipers?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

At least one.

[@Martin-hq1if]

hi, when commes the Aptera to the Europe?

[@tortoise62]

Steve - I still don't see how they can compete without the subsidy. Eclectic user base only??

[@amosbatto3051]

Yes, some people do like the distinctive shape, and some people like having the only solar car on the market, but Aptera also makes a lot of sense when you calculate that it will save about $700 in electricity bills per year compared with the Tesla Model 3.

[@TogetherinParis]

Excellent!

[@kenypetit-frere7016]

Steve's eyes look very tied.

[@rngalston]

If the "Steve Fambro"'s lack of response on FB Messenger is any indication of how busy he is, I'm glad it's him and not me.

[@brettscott7614]

This is the make or break year for Aptera.

[@andrewfuller8440]

Yes, if they don’t start production this year, then there will be a storm of naysayers drowning the media .

[@andrewcumming6319]

I'm in Australia and I want an Aptera

[@danielcrotty8141]

FYI: the volume is too on the videos, not when you are talking. Just soemthing to watch.

[@gup8175]

☀Go!☀

[@robertkirchner7981]

Does anyone have a guess what that thing that looks like a tank under the rear wheel pants is from 2:22 - 2:27 ?

[@michaelbramel5771]

Good question...I don't think we've seen that before. The things connecting at the top look more like wires than hoses (and why would there be any tank back there?). Is that what the inverter would look like?

[@JayGrant-hi5ms]

Flux Capacitor. 😉 My guess is electronics/hub for misc items at the back of the vehicle.

[@richardryley3660]

It's not part of the suspension, that would be in front of the tire. It also can't be on the PI models, that's where the "secret compartment" for the tent goes. Maybe rear view cameras? Or sensor equipment for testing? Why else would the wheel pants be off?

[@andrewkennedy3859]

I think my idea here will work, take 10 car radiators basically inside wood stove, can fan all that heat, test that idea get better than 80-90% heat wasted from normal wood stove, wood stove design has been stagnant for the past hundreds or thousands of years. All that happens with a wood stove is all the heat is lost out the chimney. It is a complete fish in a barrel, a slam dunk. No return wood stove needs makeover. 100x more heat from same amount of fuel.

[@tortoise62]

Around 8:30 when comparing the integrated solar with Fiskar - Steve missed this biggest point -- solar can actually PROPEL this car rather that just run a fan.

[@johnreeves7261]

Let's assume wheel motors consume electrical energy at a rate of 5 kw to maintain 50 miles per hour. How exactly does 0.7 kw of solar PROPEL this car?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@johnreeves7261 You are starting with a false assumption. At EPA highway speeds, the entire vehicle consumes 100 watts per mile.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@n.brucenelson5920 said: " You are starting with a false assumption. At EPA highway speeds, the entire vehicle consumes 100 watts per mile." No. The entire vehicle is claimed to need 0.1 kw-HOUR per mile at, presumably, some particular speed. Let's say 50 miles per hour. When the two are multiplied together, that means Aptera is consuming energy at an average rate of 5 kw.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@johnreeves7261 The battery bank that is charged by the solar panels can hold up to 45 kWh. If it is charged through the solar panels there is no contradiction here.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@n.brucenelson5920 said: "The battery bank that is charged by the solar panels can hold up to 45 kWh. If it is charged through the solar panels there is no contradiction here." That's an interesting way to admit your error.

[@skipondowntheroad5833]

Are the wheel "pants" required to be street legal?

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

I would be surprised if regulators allowed tires without fenders, too much rock throwing. On the other hand, I see assholes in trucks with tires that stick out past the fenders all the time, so maybe not.

[@nicholasklangos9704]

Is it air conditioned?!! How many motors?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Yes. It has an 1800 watt AC system

[@jasonatkins1467]

Owner's Club? There aren't any to own... Am I wrong?

[@Californiagent]

Nice

[@johnmiranda2307]

Seriously solar. Will Apteras be driven by AI fully autonomous vehicle software for optimal efficiency and safety? Will they survive a collision with a heavy EV or truck?

[@PocoToro]

All I see is a 1934 Chrysler Airflow. Combined wthe the Edsel. 😢

[@archstanton_live]

Think about how anxious you are to jump into your car that has been sitting in the sun charging all day. Does Aptera have AC?

[@kenmcclow8963]

I thought both interviews were good, but I’m wondering who watches local news anymore. I’m going to guess the average viewer is 75 and if they go online, they will bombard EV social media with right wing misinformation. Whenever I am reading on social media sites, the comments are full of anti EV posts kinda split between trolls and people who heard from anti EV content first. I think local news hits are nice, but limited value. I like that Aptera is pushing the solar charging benefit, but it made me wonder why most of the solar panels are optional. When I configured my reservation I immediately wanted the solar because the benefits are obvious, but you can just get the Aptera without them and you will have to plug it in. I figure it is a way to market the car at $26k when everyone is going to tick the options and it will be $27k, but that’s not really much of a difference. I don’t know the percentage, but I would guess 90+% of people are ordering the solar panels

[@jameshinde8312]

Not cool to generalize about people based on their age. I’m 74 and an Aptera Accelerator-just one, I’m sure, of many in my age group.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@jameshinde8312 I am also 74 and placed the 42nd order Aptera got.

[@darthsirrius]

I feel like I got to disagree with you here, that 2nd interview did not go that well, definitely not better than the first lol. He didn't answer almost any of the questions very well, you even kept saying that yourself. I'm sure Chris Anthony is super busy at all, but maybe Steve shouldn't be doing these interviews, at least by himself. As someone who loves pizza more than almost anything else, getting distracted by Pizza, when your entire job is to sell your vehicle on National television, does NOT look good haha. Granted that was Leaps and Bounds better than the Chicago interview. Overall net positive.

[@humnpwr]

Eee gads $40,000. US is about $54,000. Canadian funds if they don’t raise the price. You can buy a Tesla for the same here and don’t have to wear a helmet.

[@jhallpk]

Would you need to wear a helmet while driving an aptera in Canada? I am looking into it now and it looks like there are pretty inconsistent laws around autocycles from province to province. That would be pretty silly to wear a helmet inside of an enclosed cabin. I have a feeling you could get away with no helmet. All that being said I see a lot of people comparing Aptera to a Tesla but I think most people who are interested in the Aptera are attracted to it specifically for what it offers that Tesla does not.

[@humnpwr]

@@jhallpk I checked Transport Canada rules. It states you must wear helmets in three wheel vehicles. I then called my insurance and they confirmed it. He also said his company will not insure it. I will hang on to my pre-order Aptera incase Transport Canada changes it rules. Maybe if Aptera could contact Transport Canada and dazzle them with test results they might give exceptions for their vehicles

[@ccibinel]

@@humnpwr Here in BC we don't require a helmet for the polaris slingshot (no roof - far more open). I'll look into transport canada but my understanding is its a provincial issue.

[@humnpwr]

@@ccibinel thanks for replying. It’s good time to look into legality of this vehicle in Canada. I really want to get my Aptera, most logical EV idea yet. I hoping for more Canadian input. I live in Ontario in the snow belt near Blue Mountain so it was recommended to get the off road option for more clearance Have a good day

[@ccibinel]

@@humnpwr From a canadamotoguide article from 2018 about the slingshot: "In Canada, Polaris’s product manager, Garrett Moore, says the Slingshot is legal to purchase in every province except Nova Scotia. Again, each province determines its own legislation: they all require only a car licence, except for Alberta which wants a motorcycle licence, and they all require a helmet, except for British Columbia which is happy with the seat belts and roll bars."

[@PeterSedesse]

Aptera is doing what Tesla should have done. Instead we have Elons ugly cybertruck.

[@mpmpm]

"Aptera is doing what Tesla should have done. Instead we have Elons ugly cybertruck.": The Aptera and Cybertruck are not comparable. They are for an completely different market (/type of consumer). I like them both, I would have not problem driving it; but I would never buy the Cybertruck - simply because I don't need a truck. I don't even need to carry more than 1 passenger. Still I'd prefer the Cybertruck over any gasoline or diesel truck.

[@PeterSedesse]

@@mpmpm " they are for a completely different market".. yes, that is entirely my point. Cybertrucks have no market, at best they will account for 3% of Tesla's revenues and will never be profitable. They are Elon just wasting resources...with no chance of making a difference within tesla or the world. Doing an Aptera type car would have been a huge seller, changing both Tesla and the world.

[@tuffitout2568]

Aptera....hurry up already. The hearty people of Duluth, Billings and Buffalo are waiting.

[@richh650]

It is Aptera that is always saying 1000-mile range up front. The journalists are only repeating the information that Aptera is providing them. Not sure why they push that spec when chances are almost zero that many would ever want that heavy of a battery for this small 3-wheeler. They have always struggled with marketing and that is likely a big contributing factor they are so many years late in production with proper funding.

[@cingkole7893]

W

[@randylewis4242]

I think they should stop saying "45,000 pre orders". These are not orders, just $70 refundable reservations. When people find out the truth they come off as deceptive.

[@unclegeorge7845]

I think everyone in the real world knows what "pre orders" means.

[@gr8dvd]

@@unclegeorge7845 Yep, the deceptive part is $1.3 BILLION in preorders as if 100% will convert. Other startups have been hard-pressed to convert 1/2 their preorders as seen on a prior video here.

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

I'm not sure how deceptive it seems, but it is a fair point. It wouldn't hurt them to be careful to call them reservations.

[@randylewis4242]

@@unclegeorge7845 When you go to a car dealer and put down a sizable downpayment to preorder a car - it's quite a bit different from what's happening here.

[@1968CudaGuy]

Aptera Owners Club..... Owners who don't have them yet you have an "Owners Club"? Been following Aptera since 2006 and been disappointed since it has never reached production..

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Look at the history. Aptera Corp was founded in 2019 and started design on the current vehicle, which has improved greatly since it was announced, going from a planned vacuum resin infusion body to Carbon Fiber and SMC. Demand was expected at around 4000 units and has well over 45,000 paid pre-orders now. Production Intent vehicles are being assembled now.

[@KA9DSL]

Low audio, very loud intro.

[@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter]

Still not bankrupt?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

And not on the way to it. Tesla got MUCH closer.

[@harrymcintosh2940]

What is the deal with Steve's eyebrows?

[@gbpg2016]

Reporter: They’ve raised $160 million Me: Haven’t they actually spent over $200 million already?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The important thing is they are producing value for their investors - tooling, parts, and IP.

[@adolfgerhardhermann5952]

Another dream vehicle. I see bankrupcy of this company.

[@billmanewal1786]

Dreams don't have carbon fiber body parts being pressed by the same Italian company that makes parts for Lamborghini, BMW, etc. “The poorest way to face life is to face it with a sneer. A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticize work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities-all these are marks, not ... of superiority but of weakness.” - Theodore Roosevelt

[@adolfgerhardhermann5952]

@@billmanewal1786 Another philosopher, wow! I bet you know how to run bussines... it means actually SELLING things you are making! We'll see how this goes while big companies are all pulling out of the EV nonsense! Big time! But I still like aptera, it's a nice niche product within the EV niche, a toy if you will. Reality check first, my friend...

[@raducristiandumitrescu1806]

EXPENSIVE...WHY? MOST OF THE COMPONENTS ARE MADE ABROAD..WAIT WHAT THE FRUNK?!?!bECAUSE USA DOES NOT HAVE INDUSTRY THAT'S WHY !!!!!SHAME ON USA SHAME !!!!

[@n2music174]

May want to get away from the three wheel Turd look. Not exactly eye catching.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

Not eye catching? You should try looking at it. No car will catch more eyes than this

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Aptera is not a fashion statement. The design is due to physics and it will never go out of style.

[@jimwilson7322]

Dude, I appreciate you pulling together these reports but there's no need to keep interrupting and telling us what we just heard. Calm down.

[@JetFire9]

Cool, but this is the OceanGate equivalent of an EV. Just a bad idea that a few people are very passionate about.

[@MehraliyevFuad]

Too expensive ..........

[@mebran1193]

whipping around with an awkward hand over hand on the Joke

[@barnabasseadog7660]

He aint even thinking about it. You are.

[@andromedach]

all stock footage to include the renders from the solar is in production video we know was never true; that was sequence of panels scrolling top to bottom, but more worrisome is there is literally no one and nothing in the Carlsbad facility. Seriously that is not good. Plus ask yourself this, even with the recent EVA meeting Chris provided no new pictures out of Italy since November. Nothing. All the coverage in the world is meaningless at this point when they have effectively gone dark - meaning no new pictures of progress.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

This is an odd take on this otherwise positive news about Aptera. It doesn't matter if little is happening at some of the facilities currently. It is valuable to keep costs low both before and after production begins later this year. The important news will be coming soon when they test and review the upcoming production intent models.

[@JayGrant-hi5ms]

That’s a nice way to put it Dean! 👍 CPC does not appear to like pictures in their secret squirrel facility, and the Aptera line is something we might not get to see even when it’s complete and producing. Good times!

[@barnabasseadog7660]

They have a pretty detailed plan for production that you are not privy to. Besides waiting on CPC, they wait on two hundred battery packs from CTNS in Korea, then they come to Calsbad and setup the battery production line. As partners with Aptera, both CPC and CTNS will eventually onshore all the manufacturing equipment to the U.S.A. It's a win/win for everyone involved, and a black eye for legacy auto.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@bobhellman8676 There is still IP under development. If you hadn't blinked you would have seen solar panel production equipment, and we know that the PO for the full size, full speed production machine has been written. This is significant, especially since the patent has been granted. This equipment will soon be producing an income stream that goes beyond the Aptera vehicles.

[@tedmitchell226]

TOYOTA'S NEW SUV EV WITH 900 Mile Range sorry Aptera but not going to need you. Solid State Batteries with a 10 minute charge time

[@barnabasseadog7660]

If it's made from welded and pressed steele, it's going to be obsolete. Enjoy going to the gas station every week, planned obsolescence, bloated insurance, and dealerships gouging you.

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

When/if solid state batteries become a thing... Aptera could use them and continue to go farther with less.

[@tedmitchell226]

@@barnabasseadog7660 Actually in the news they are going to be cheaper than their current SUV, I know about the insurance from YT in other countries about insurance gouging but how much will I save on gas prices and taxes paid at the gas pump and a big part of insurance on EV is the Thermal run away fires, this is solid state batteries so I don't foresee an issue with insurance and I get a full size SUV

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@tedmitchell226 We know now that Toyota has been faking their crash test data for at least 34 years.

[@sciencesaves]

They would need to have at least 10x the solar panels for solar charging to be anything more than just a cute caption on a photo.

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

On any other car that would be true (if a little bit exaggerated)

[@sciencesaves]

@@skeptibleiyam1093 this car is the one I’m speaking of. Solar panels are almost useless for standard EVs unless you have an array of 8-12x 400w panels to plugin to

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

@@sciencesaves The reason you would need lots of panels is because your vehicle is heavy and shaped like a brick. This car is light and shaped like a fish (low drag) and therefore needs less power and therefore needs fewer solar cells. You're trolling me, I've been trolled haven't I?

[@sciencesaves]

@@skeptibleiyam1093 I understand the marketing claims. They are bogus. Goodbye.

[@garywozniak7742]

I would suggest that you are mistakenThe Aptera only uses100wH/mile. The 700 watts of panels will provide a useful amount of charge..