Aputure 600c PRO - A perfect light??

[@northcoaststudios]

Wow, the technology is incredible. A 600 watt LED, and in all colors. Wow. Yeah, steep price, but with Aputure's quality I am sure it is worth it. And for everyone, remember, Aputure is a step down from Hollywood level equipment but is showing up on top level projects. That goes to show the bang you get for your buck. Excellent review as always, Heather.

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Thank you! And yes good points

[@filmmassa]

Unless I misunderstood you… A brighter intensity is not a benefit of RGBWW over RGBACL. If you imagine a cob using six colored leds to blend together (at different intestines) to mix a combined pool of light to reach a specific color, where Aputure must cut off power much quicker to some of the LEds to create colors because the warm and cool white is what is needed to fill in this missing colors (A,C,L) however, you will always have less LEDs fired up in an RGBWW configuration vs an RGBACL for any given color. RBGWW’s only stand out feature (as I understand) as a design is it’s compatibly with single color and bicolor fixtures because RGBWW can act as all 3: a tungsten led portion of the cob, a daylight portion, and 3 primary colors to add a portion of the light spectrum. The problem is leds take turns (with RGBWW) more than all cooperating to make the desired color (RGBACL). I haven’t played with both fixtures at the same time to test, but I’m not sure I agree with Aputure’s decision making on RGBWW, seems like the priority was on compatibility with the Aputure workflow rather than making the best most powerful and best quality of light. To be fair we are talking about minor improvements to color replication, and all of the short comings of the RBGWW design are comparable to the light loss associated with gels and such. But these are old compromises that we don’t need to can anymore with RGBACL, because additive color means more Intensity. Gels are color negative as they block certain frequencies of light (colors) from passing through the gel material, while mixing colors adds up all the individual light intensities together to make a new more powerful beam. I hope that’s makes sense and I,ve not wasted your time : )

[@FellowFilmmaker]

I'm probably not the leading expert on this, but I see your point. I'm sure someone out there explains it better and I perhaps misspoke a bit in some areas. I guess if I were to try and bottom line it, RGBWW is best if you plan to be CCT often and HSI only some of the time. Where RGBACL is great for the person doing HSI all the time and CCT only sometimes. Because the RGBWW will be of greater benefit in CCT mode as it'll be brighter by the sheer fact it has white LED's. You are right, I think, in what you're saying. And I think I explained it a bit wrong in the video perhaps. I will say tho, that it's hard for me to say for sure if the RGBWW is brighter in HSI mode because I have only a 300w RGBACL to compare it too, so they will always be on different playing fields no matter how hard I try to level it. I did some testing where I was estimating the power difference and setting the RGBACL to a certain percentage higher than the 600c pro to see what happened. From that test, knowing it was not perfect, I did notice that the RGBWW had a brighter HSI output than the RGBACL. But the RGBACL looked better in saturation because there is only color LED's firing, and many at that. I'm not sure if the RGBWW fires some white into it's HSI to help bring the intensity up, but it would almost seem that way (at least to my eye). Likely I'll need to find a way to do a proper test in the future that yields better results and understanding. But in short, there are benefits I believe to choosing either RGBACL or RGBWW and it comes down to what you're shooing and if you care about color saturation. :)

[@nshea3286]

@@FellowFilmmaker RGBWW won't be brighter than RGBACL in CCT mode. It has white emitters but it is only using half of the white emitters at the ends of the CCT range. Most bi-color and RGBWW use 2700K and 6500K leds. The closer to 2700k, the less 6500k is used and vice-versa. RGB emitters (in CCT mode on RGBWW) are just used to adjust the green-magenta balance. Essentially a RGBWW is a bi-color light with less emitters than regular bi-color lights to make room for RGB emitters. RGBACL use all the emitters. The advantage of RGBWW - in CCT mode - is that it's easier to create a smoother spectrum. The warm and cool light emitters create a wide smooth spectrum with just a spike at 450nm(blue). RGBACL lights combine narrower spectrums to fill in the visible spectrum - creating more spikes and a faster fall off in the red spectrum.(These problems could be solved by adding a deep red emitter and a violet/blue emitter, but that would require extra processing power). RGBACL's main advantage is the ability to create more saturated color and more accurately emulate gels. You have 6 points to draw a spectrum as opposed to just 3 with RGBWW.

[@mitchgross592]

@@FellowFilmmaker Hi, Prolycht rep here. Maker of RGBACL lights. It is not true that RGBWW is brighter in CCT mode compared to RGBACL. This is easy to check either yourself or by comparing manufacturers’ photometric specs on their websites. The Prolycht Orion 675 FS (675w) is brighter than the Aputure FS 600c (720w, not 600w). I suggest comparing output at 5600K at 3 meters as it is fairest to all lights and a realistic use of them. Bare emitter, with reflector, with fresnel, etc. the Orion is brighter, sometimes dramatically so.

[@arcanesprod]

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[@FellowFilmmaker]

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[@akcine]

I just found your channel and I have to say that I LOVE your videos :) you are so good !!

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Thank you so much!!

[@mfluder15]

The quality of Aputure’s products is second to none. A great review.

[@FellowFilmmaker]

For sure! Thanks for watching Jeff

[@benjhaisch]

Yes! Stoked you got one!

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Haha well thanks! 😁

[@alassafcam]

As always, great review 👏🏼

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Thank you!

[@NSW_XUZIA]

Super light review as usual. Thanks Belinda 😁😁

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Most welcome :D

[@ianthebrightman]

Looking forward to seeing the next "carmen san diego" iteration with this hahaha

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Haha thanks Ian

[@AnaBedoy-q6c]

Hello, this light does not heat up an optical snoot much.

[@ralphgeronilla]

It’s hard making choices these days. Should I get this or the Prolycht 675FS? I feel the 675FS would have better color at full brightness

[@FellowFilmmaker]

You'll have to look more into the specs on the 675, as I don't have it and can't say. But if you want really accurate and saturated colors then Prolycht is nice. But I will say if you plan to adjust it post a bit, then Aputure is good enough.

[@rushboardtechuk]

Honestly I would love to see a 300W version of this. I know they've made a lot of 300W bi-color source models, and some 300W RGBWW panel lights, but the budget needed for the 600c Pro is considerable.

[@FellowFilmmaker]

I'm guessing they might as some point

[@thefelixwu]

The power output is significantly less when you switch to colour mode. The more colour the less output in general. At 300w max (which isn’t a bright light by any means) the output would be too weak IMO

[@ayansinghh]

i am using a 600w bi color light which costed me around $800

[@srisankaran24]

hey Heather, which one is your fav pick RGBACL or RGBWW? 🤔😅cuz there are still people favoring RGBACL even with all those SSI numbers. 😂

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Great question! I've got both of them, as I'm guessing you know. :D Personally it's hard to pick. I like the color saturation with RGBACL but intensity is really helpful in a light as well. In certain types of shooting I could see myself favoring RGBACL when I really want to get great colors in camera. But RGBWW for when I need a light to really stretch and reach intensity levels. Different tools for different needs I guess.

[@srisankaran24]

💜 yeah, different tools for different needs!

[@filmspotzshorts]

Got my 300dii last year and my light feels ancient now.

[@FellowFilmmaker]

True! Always something new coming out

[@everonproducties]

Im gonna buy the 300d ii tomorrow, is it still worth 1000 euros?

[@filmspotzshorts]

@@everonproducties What about the 300x? you get bi-color but you lose output vs 300dii. I like my 300dii, I can just throw on a CTO or CTB gel and get same results. It’s still worth it! I got the softbox too.

[@everonproducties]

@@filmspotzshorts thanks! Ive heard that the 300x is really weak compared to the 300d ii. I dont really need tungsten that much anyways so ill probably end up buying this one

[@YourStoryStudios]

Great review! This light is on the list of gear to purchase :)

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Nice! I do really like it

[@ZimingXie]

A huge downside is the output with F10 Fresnel that works so well with 600D/600X, which is the main ways users of this lights target market looks for. 600C only achieves its max potential with 1200D reflectors set which is much more limited in accessory options than the other lights in the 600 line. Also as some other comments mentioned, RGBACL will have the output advantage by a lot. Prolycht Orion 675 FS seems to have almost double the output as 600C in CCT with included reflectors, as it uses all 6 color chips to generate white light. Hope to test both units in person to find out

[@FellowFilmmaker]

I'm guessing they might just make a new fresnel for the light.... :D

[@w.kirkherron4740]

great videos keep them coming please

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Will do!

[@robojim4000]

im very confused...You said you measured the 600c to be 75000 lux at 5600k with the reflector dish. This is confusing for a few reasons ... 1) you put '17120 lux' on the right hand side? 2) I measured mine with the sekonic c800 at 1m at 5600 with the normal 600 series reflector and it came in at at 38000 lux (around HALF of yours!) 3) Aputure says it should be around 50000 lux. My bare bulb measurements are the same as aputures and maybe the difference between mine and there's is because I measure from the end of reflector rather from the bulb when the reflector is on ... but 75000 is WAY higher than mine

[@FellowFilmmaker]

So if you look on the left, the bottom one is 5600K at 100% output and it reads around 75000 lux. The 17,120 is for color and I measured several of the colors to see what was the highest I could get, as described in the text on screen. I measure roughly 1m from the light chip with included reflector on. I'm not sure what to say for the difference really. But, if you want to feel safer about it, go with Aputure's reading :D

[@naveenselvam9444]

Please make a video about light stands please and also please explain about super clamps, friction arm and all 🥺

[@FellowFilmmaker]

what do you want to know about them?

[@makatron]

For corporate work and any talking heads gigs this is the ultimate lights, just a set of three of these would be enough. And for whatever needs raw power then my pair of 1200d would do.

[@FellowFilmmaker]

For sure!

[@akfilmequipment6662]

I Love 600c

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Me too

[@rubd-tz3wb]

Weather resistant, not Heather resistant 🤪 Great video 👍🏻

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Haha good one!

[@g1981c]

Aputure saying that RGB WW is brighter than RGB ACL is marketing speak. what they really meant is that it's CHEAPER. from their perspective of course a light that's cheaper lumen for lumen is brighter dollar for dollar ... but that assumes they pass their savings on to the customer ...

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Good point I understand each company has their slight, and Aputure is no excuse either. :) I do think tho it's a great light and made very nicely, and for that I'm happy to recommend it

[@Bo_Hazem]

Jack of all trades, master of none. Too expensive. They should've tried GVM's trick with putting full 300w COB for CCT and another full 300w on the other side. Heck, GVM ST300R is so close at $900 doing 12,000 bare and 65,000 with the reflector (LUX/1m).

[@FellowFilmmaker]

I imagine they'll make a cheaper version eventually :D

[@PhotographybySatesh]

Ooofff that’s expensive

[@FellowFilmmaker]

It can be for some, yes :D Gonna have to save up to buy a bunch for sure

[@airavearentertainment9186]

First?!

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Yep! You win :D

[@pabuba7302]

2500 bucks for one LIGHT! I can buy a new car for that

[@FellowFilmmaker]

Haha, yeah it can be a bit much for some folks