AR Wing Pro with inav 6 - Just Brilliant!

[@dronepilot260rc]

I’ve been really enjoying my AR wing Pro. Thanks for all of your videos! I used the stock elevons but laminated them and cut them off and used plastic hinges. I also use a 8x5 folding prop with brake enabled

[@bluefish3607]

Thats a neat idea with the elevons. Never tried a folding prop myself. Enjoy your AR Pro 👍

[@k4x4map46]

can't wait for the build vid!!

[@bluefish3607]

Me too its been a long time coming.

[@kevalinopicks5555]

Wow - Toluene! That brought back bad memories of my time as an apprentice printer. Truly nasty stuff!

[@bluefish3607]

Yes I read up on it and thats why I got myself a good quality respirator and will do the job in the garage with the door and windows open. I hope it works, we will soon see.

[@RoyCruse]

after a small tumble on landing with my ar wing pro (clipped a tuft of grass which span the model) - the included in the pnp kit servo went all loose and floppy like it had stripped gears.... this confused me on the field as they were sold as "Metal Gear" servos.... got it back on the bench and dismantled the servo to find only the last 2 gears in the train are metal - the rest are plastic - of course the plastic part was disintegrated.

[@bluefish3607]

Had a few crashes but never stripped a servo yet. I put PDK servos in my latest AR Pro build and they look pretty bullet proof and work great. I guess those servos you have should be called Partial Metal Gear Servos 😀 Happy Flying

[@InfrastructuraRomania]

Great flight test!!

[@VigiHunter]

Great video! Mine just wants to crash all the time :( Do you have auto launch settings for iNav 6 on hand? I think i got something wrong there...

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, here are my launch settings. I have a 10 second delay set from raising the throttle until the idle starts, you can remove this if you want by setting nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 0 nav_fw_launch_thr = 1900 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1350 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300 Allowed range: 100 - 10000 nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863 Allowed range: 1000 - 20000 nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180 Allowed range: 5 - 180 nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 Allowed range: 10 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 10000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 50 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 50 Allowed range: 0 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_end_time = 3000 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 20 Allowed range: 5 - 45 nav_fw_launch_manual_throttle = OFF Allowed values: OFF, ON nav_fw_launch_abort_deadband = 100 Allowed range: 2 - 250

[@brkfpv60]

did you test range o3 and googles 2 ? I tested it yesterday and didn't experience any interruptions for 12 km in very windy weather. i use cyrstal patch antenna together dji stock antenna .

[@bluefish3607]

No I don't fly long range much anymore, but that is pretty impressive, do you have a link to the patch antenna you used?

[@maxun1]

BLUEFISH you say you are flying with permanent enable servo autotrim, but that do not get activate until you switch or activated to autolevel? or I'm wrong?

[@bluefish3607]

I fly with Continuously trim servos on Fixed Wing switched on in inav. The setting is on the Configuration Tab bottom left. I then have a switch setup on my radio that turns on Angle Mode and Auto Level together for setting up the pitch offset to keep the plane level. You have to save the new value using the configurator or stick commands. Here are two links that explain and the stick command to save the setting. github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Modes github.com/iNavFlight/inav/blob/master/docs/Controls.md

[@ttucker2073]

Good stuff mate. How do you get the delay when you raise the throttle to auto launch. What is it you have to change and what do to change it to. I have a big twin that pulls a bit hard in autolaunch idle when I raise the throttle. Hard to hold with 1 hand and when idle kicks in when I raise the throttle. Thanks

[@bluefish3607]

Hi the comand is set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 10000 with the 10000 in my case equating to 10 seconds as the inav value is in milliseconds.

[@ttucker2073]

@@bluefish3607 ok great. Thank you

[@tdogrc]

Nice 👌🏻. Looking forward to upgrading my FC’s to iNav6. Cheers 👍🏻

[@bluefish3607]

It really is very good, as you see I am super pleased with it and the wing flies great. I am sure you will be impressed when you install it.

[@Rcschim]

Nice flight and landing. The rth saved your disoriented pilot there ;) now I'm gonna re visit my arwing, put a better fc in it and install inav 6.1.1

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Thanks, love your channel btw, has helped me a lot. I am an AR pro fanboy and love this wing. Now I am retiured and have my camper van to roam Europe maybe we could fly together one day when I am in your area.

[@maxun1]

BEAUTIFUL

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, I really love flying this wing.

[@egtreadway4232]

I'm curious in manual mode how much throw you have on the roll and pitch axis, the manual recommends 12mm max but I've tried and cannot get under 15mm. I must be missing something. Thanks

[@bluefish3607]

I have approx 22mm on Pitch and 24mm on Roll, but I do run my servo endpoints in inav from 800 to 2200. I am a pincher and very delicate on the sticks but sometimes need big deflections for tight turns and I use balsa elevons and am carrying a lot of weight with a 5000 mah 4S and GoPro.

[@egtreadway4232]

@@bluefish3607 ok thanks, i may leave mine at 15mm pitch and roll, I don't see away to reduce them unless i tried changing end points in inav? Thanks again keep those videos coming

[@bluefish3607]

@@egtreadway4232 That should be absolutely fine, muscle memory is the key to keeping everything smooth imo, the more I practice the smoother it seems to get for me anyway.

[@SteffenRC]

Glenn, Always enjoy your videos.. I haven't upgraded to INAV 6 yet, simply don't want to mess with it.. btw, the ARWP is such a wonderful FPV platform.. Great watching the flight and the spot on landing. Looking forward to the final build of your new ARWP.. - Will

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks Will, inav 6 is really fantastic, what vewrsion are you currently running? I was nervous on the landing is was muddy field or ditch if I didn't hit the strip of grass. New AR Pro almost done.

[@SteffenRC]

@@bluefish3607 I’m running 5.1 and the stock DJI setup. Can’t do WTF OSD since I also fly the DJI FPV quad. Don’t want to mess anything up. Actually thinking about Walksnail…. I’ll upgrade the fleet to 6.x soon.

[@bluefish3607]

@@SteffenRC Ah that makes sense Will, how do you like the DJI Quad? Walksnail looks like a great option, I went DJI so I can upgrade all my air units to work with Goggles 2 and also use O3 air units in future. I just wish DJI and inav could work together and produce a quality OSD like WTF, that would be truly awesome.

[@raffman4266]

What was your esc motor prop combo sir? Would it also be possible to share your PID and servo throws settings.. you have such an amazing setup!! Or better yet your diff file if it’s possible

[@bluefish3607]

Hi sorry for late reply, I had a lot of family at my house for the Christmas holidays. Too be honest sharing my setup with you would probably not give you the best results. My AR Pro has a lot of modifications, balsa elevons, different horns etc. and flys very heavy at 1.6Kg. You will get much better results if you use the stock settings in inav (preferably version 7.0) and then do an Autolevel and Autotune also Autotrim unless like I do and have constant trim activated in the configuration tab. In terms of powertrain I use a Sunnysky X2216 1400KV MK III blue motor, APC 8045 Multi Rotor Prop, T-Motor 55 amp ESC and a CNHL 5000 mah 4S 70C lipo. Best wishes with your AR Pro, it is a great wing.

[@raffman4266]

@@bluefish3607 Thank you for your response sir… more power to your setups and channel

[@alanpaul1234]

Nice flight. I have increased the exposure value to +0.7 on my 03 air units which seems pretty good for getting rid of dark patches without overexposing the sky. Cheers.

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks Alan I will try that for sure, I am looking forward to a day were its sunny and bright and I can spend a couple of hours just testing all the settings.

[@simifpv]

Hey man, Nice Flight, I just got the AR wing Pro, and im looking for Longrange with it. Did you found a nice prop and Motor compination for low amp draw / long flight time?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi I don't really fly long range with my AR Pro although it is a very capable paltform for this purpose. I think the SunnySky 2216 1400KV with and 8x4.5 prop should be pretty efficient or the 1250KV with 9x5 prop. I had a Brotherhobby Reunion 2318 1250KV with a 9x5 Aeronaut Cam Carbon Light prop on an AR Pro and that was pretty efficient. I will using that combo on my next AR Pro Build as it is also much quieter, which is useful when flying in certain areas. en.rcsunnysky.com/x-fixedwingseries/44.html www.brotherhobbystore.com/products/reunion-2318-motor-150

[@Caroline_Tyler]

I'm guessing this was Monday - managed to pop out myself after work for a bit of line of sight at a local park. #GottaFly

[@bluefish3607]

Yes Caroline apart from Mothers Day it's been the first decent day for ages.

[@Fpvlandscapes]

Mate, your flight is perfect. Would you mind to share your pids and rate.. Mine with inav 6.0 doesnt fly as good as yours. thx

[@bluefish3607]

Roll P=12 I= D=8 F=30 Pitch P=4 I=2 D=2 F=110 Roll Rate 350 Pitch Rate 100 But its probably better for you to mechanicaly trim your plane and use Autotune as my setup is likley different to yours and I am running balsa elevons.

[@tubamanandy2]

Did you tune it during or prior to the flight or stick with stock settings ?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Andrew, The plane was previously tuned to my liking based upon an autotune and then tweaking the settings to get the feel I like. All I did on the day prior to that flight was do an autolevel and autotrim as I replaced a servo made a slight adjustment to the new servo control rod to get as close to 1500 as I could in level flight, ended up at 1524 which is more than acceptable other servo is at 1479. I didn’t re Autotune or change any PIFF values as it felt great and locked in.

[@z-h-d]

Amazing flight, one again! Great image quality as always. Love to just watch and relax. Also the doppler sound effect of near missing the ground camera is crazy! Just one little issue - there's some mismatch in video frame rates. Onboard HD camera footage is a little stuttering. Gotta check it.

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, yes I noticed that issue with the footage and it really bothered me so I am going to try and figure it out so I can avoid that in future. I ran the GoPro at 4K 30fps wide with an ND4 filter.

[@kool-k-kel]

nice flight.. nailed landing!

[@bluefish3607]

Cheers Kool, I did think I was going to fluff it into the ditch at one point 🙂

[@copternutFPV]

Great flying! Thoroughly looking forward to getting my AR Pro finished and up in the air, will use a OG Air Unit to begin with until I'm more confident to put a O3 in it! Is that a Hero 6 on the front? I use my Hero 6 more than the Hero 10 or 8 (naked) as if l crash, it's cheaper to replace and still produces amazing quality footage. Happy flying 🤙

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, yes I use the Hero 6 Black running 1.6 firmware as that seems to work best with Reelsteady Go. The Hero 6 is also smaller and lighter the new models just seem to get bigger everytime. I love the AR Pro and will hopefully get my new build finished soon. Good luck with your maiden and have fun with your ARP.

[@yojazdayo]

Nice flight. I just finishing my AR Pro. Could you share your autolaunch settings? And what motor you have?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi I am using a SunnySky 2216 KV1400 MKIII see here: en.rcsunnysky.com/x-fixedwingseries/44.html Here are my Autolaunch settings nav_fw_launch_thr = 1900 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1350 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300 Allowed range: 100 - 10000 nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863 Allowed range: 1000 - 20000 nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180 Allowed range: 5 - 180 nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 Allowed range: 10 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 10000 (This means there is a 10 second delay after you arm and throttle up before the idle throttle start set to 0 if you don't want this) Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 50 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 50 Allowed range: 0 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_end_time = 3000 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 20 Allowed range: 5 - 45 nav_fw_launch_manual_throttle = OFF Allowed values: OFF, ON nav_fw_launch_abort_deadband = 100 Allowed range: 2 - 250

[@yojazdayo]

@@bluefish3607 Great, thanks.

[@cozzy206]

Great stuff pal

[@bluefish3607]

I definitely enjoyed it John and I even managed a decent landing, which is quite rare 🙂

[@skyforce1983]

Nice flight man

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, I really enjoyed it

[@alexiscolonfpv3534]

what is you setup, i have win pro but all time it get return home it crash know way

[@eltio77556]

Looking forward to see the video about e6000 and toluene

[@lennson]

@BlueFish Where can i find those servo covers? Cant find them anywhere Greetings from germany :-)

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Lenny, they are my design here is a link. I love Germany I have flown there with friends a few times now, will be there this summer. drive.google.com/file/d/10Lo-0StmQuWq86e9i1FY6GInCa2gN3T-/view?usp=share_link

[@FPVHamburg]

Amazing, looks super smooth. Do you mind sharing a complete dump, or at least the PIFF settings?

[@bluefish3607]

You will get better results if you use inav 6.1 and do and autoune and autolevel on your own plane as copying my settings will probably not be the best option. As long as you start with your elevons with 5mm uplift at 1500 and have your CG on the front edges of the marks inav you give you settings that are pretty good for your plane. I have balsa elevons also which makes a difference to my PIDFF settings. Give that a try and you should find that your AR Pro will fly pretty nice.

[@FPVHamburg]

Just flashed 6.1 an hour ago. Got all the basics dialed in. Testflight tomorrow, wish me luck. Just kidding, the plane flew before, so i hope for a smooth test run. I will keep your CG tipps in mind. 👍 Thanks for your feedback

[@bluefish3607]

@@FPVHamburg Sounds good let me know how it goes 🤞

[@mr_batch]

@@bluefish3607 Great Flight, Thanks4that! I have only trouble with my ARpro and i want to do it better. Whats the AUW Weight of your ARpro, what Type and Capacity of Battery? I think i`m too heavy with 1540g? ;) i have a Tmotor AT2317 1400kv with APC 8x6E and 70A ESC, feed it with a 4s2p 5500 lipo... Thanks for enlighten me ;)

[@bluefish3607]

@@mr_batch Your setup is similar to mine, I like my AR Pro to be heavy, mine is 1620 grams. I used SunnySky 2216 1400KV MK III motor with CNHL 500mah 4S lipo and APC 8x4.5 prop with T-Motor 55 amp ESC

[@shadofpv]

Awesome mate, lovely launch 👌 if you're debating on servos i would go emax md series, they're very strong on 6 volt and relliable, not cheap though :) also if you adjust and lock the ISO setting on the gopro depending on weather it's sunny or not then it should make that light to dark issue stop happening, dark you want lower iso, bright sun you want slightly higher :)

[@bluefish3607]

Cheers Shado, I used Emax before and had a couple of failures but that was when I was doing lots of hard crashes, I still have a couple of ES08MD's maybe I should give them another try. Thanks for the O3 tip I will definitely try that.

[@eltio77556]

Buddy which battery pack and servos do you use?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi I use Towerpro MG90D servos www.towerpro.com.tw/product/mg90d-2/ I use CNHL 4S 5000mah 55C and 70C lipos chinahobbyline.com/collections/cnhl-voltage-14-8v-4s-lipo-batteries/products/cnhl-gplus-series-5000mah-14-8v-4s-55c-lipo-battery-with-xt90-plug

[@bluefish3607]

Oh and I run the servos on 6V from my FC as I use balsa elevons and they put a little more pressure on the servos because they do not deflect as much at higher speeds.

[@alperenozgur]

this build can bu used for high altitude long range? what flight time i can get?

[@bluefish3607]

The AR Wing Pro is a very good plane for long range. It has a large battery carrying capacity and with a hi capacity LION well over an hour of flight time should be possible. I do not personally fly mine long range and just have fun flying proximity no more than 2 km away generally.

[@alperenozgur]

thank you so much 👍🏻 will get one asap 🫣

[@MrHitman1966]

Bloody marvellous stuff - how fast is the wing going ?

[@bluefish3607]

I fly between 70 and 90 mph generally with some 100 mph plus dives.

[@derivas007]

how do you tune you wing with inav?does it stock setting

[@bluefish3607]

I do this, set inav to permanently enabled autotrim, then Autolevel, then Autotune, land and check and set servo linkages to 1500 for level flight if necessary. Tweak the pitch and roll rates to your liking and adjust PIDS only if you feel necessary, but if the plane is well put together it should fly pretty good just like this with no further adjustement to PIDS. Watch my process on this AR Pro maiden video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5isn2itnc6ertE

[@ApappieK]

I agree, INAV 6 is amazing. Was able to fly 3 INAV 6 planes and had several flights in strong winds. My planes feel locked in. Not able to autotune because of the wind but that's finetuning only.

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you are enjoying it too. What planes do you fly?

[@ApappieK]

@@bluefish3607 Installed INAV 6 on my WingWing Z84 Walksnail (2nd build), Dart250G and Dolphin. At the moment converting my Durafly Tomahawk. The Tomahawk is small and fast, was difficult for me to tune in INAV5.1. Will start with INAV 6 default settings and start with the default autotune if the wind allows.. This will be the real INAV 6 test. Some other planes have to wait, love flying different planes at the same day.... 😊. Love your enthusiastic and honest vids content, hope weather is brilliant soon this year.... BTW: just discovered that if I put both osd_ahi_pitch_interval and osd_ahi_max_pitch on 30 degrees, I have always the art. horizon in my picture, even at 80 degrees nose up... Nice.

[@bluefish3607]

@@ApappieK I always fancied building a Z84 they look like fun little wings. My intention was to have a small wing with no FC to strap on my backpack when I go walking and just fly it LOS somewhere remote in the countryside in a sunny afternoon. I have a Dart 250G running 4S a little screamer but only fly it on sunny calm days. I love the look of the Dolphin many people comment how stable they are in the air. Not going to get anymore planes as I have a new AR Pro to finish and two Mini Draks to build one standard and one with extended plank wings. Not seen a Tomahawk will Google it. Thanks for the heads up on the inav AH mod I will give that a try. 🙏🏻

[@ApappieK]

@@bluefish3607Yes, you have a nice countryside for flying and hiking, too populated here unfortunately.. Z84 has a relative low wing load and is agile. Silent wing with low kV motor on 3S, not for speeding though. Maybe the Dart250G on 2S fits better in a backpack, low noise and wings are removable? But if you are going to fly FPV in unknown area, I advice you a FC with a Home Arrow.... you easily get lost (how do I know) and you may land on the wrong spot (you know)... 😅

[@bluefish3607]

@@ApappieK Yes with an FC and GPS I get lost I will have no chance flying LOS. Where are you based btw?

[@szczery_fpv]

Hello Friend great video :)

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you enjoyed it, I think the summer is coming 🙂

[@packetkiller2214]

How about a link to the servo arm covers you made?

[@bluefish3607]

Here you go drive.google.com/file/d/1vItq42shF0lYcQZZt8vEGDo0yvv8p1dl/view?usp=sharing

[@badfourlife]

I feel like I'm missing half the font you have, way more buggy osd dunno what I'm missing(goggles 2) ... Also there's been update for goggle side to use hd osd, you have to change to HD canvas in goggles after update and switch to avata osd in inav for it to frame correctly

[@bluefish3607]

I wasn’t aware of that update thanks for the heads up I will look into it. Not sure what your issue is are you running inav 6?

[@badfourlife]

@@bluefish3607 yeah on new 6.0 release build (installed last day or 2) and it's the same on 2 wings, it's like voltage(battery) symbols are arrows and distance to home symbol is a temperature logo.... Almost like part of font is outta order

[@badfourlife]

This is on 2 vistas fyi, but osd should be same between em and o3 on goggles 2 from what I understand

[@badfourlife]

Ahh it looks like a bunch are fixed going back to bf 4.3 compat mode, I thought more were broken in 4.3 mode but I was mistaken... Guess we'll need to wait on inav update to take advantage of the widescreen osd

[@bluefish3607]

@@badfourlife Yeah I hope that DJI and inav can work together to deliver a quality OSD which would be fantatsic. WTF OSD is amazing and it would be fantastic to have something like that with Goggles 2 and O3 in the future, fingers crossed.

[@apexaero]

Have you heard of a Torq CL0508 coreless servo?

[@bluefish3607]

No, have you tried them, any good?

[@apexaero]

@@bluefish3607 smooth as butter! really powerful also! I have a set in an AR Pro and a Large size Goblin

[@raffman4266]

How many Mah 4s do you use sir

[@bluefish3607]

5000mah

[@qbertatx]

Be curious to see how the telouene thinned down e6000 coating turns out. That's a good idea.

[@bluefish3607]

Yes me too I will be doing it this weekend and will upload a video of the method and results.

[@eltio77556]

@@bluefish3607 let us know buddy

[@douglasyoung3992]

Great update "Idiot"😂 I can't wait to get inav 6.0 on a few of my wings

[@bluefish3607]

I am sure you will be impressed with it Doug.

[@СержДигер]

inav 6.0 rc1?

[@bluefish3607]

No inav 6.0 stable release

[@jasontotz]

Whereabouts is this???

[@bluefish3607]

Lincolnshire, UK

[@eltio77556]

since you are buying toluene, you can use it with goop and kevlar and the plane last for a decade! :)

[@bluefish3607]

I never thought of that is it possible?

[@eltio77556]

@@bluefish3607 let me share with you the video. I have been looking to find out the best way to let me plane last for decade since where I live we don’t have grassy field but just rocky fields.

[@wanglanyu408]

起飞真帅

[@bluefish3607]

谢谢，我花了一段时间来完善它 - No idea if the translation will make sense. :-)

[@chrisalexthomas]

e6000 as in the glue?

[@bluefish3607]

Yes E6000 glue

[@chrisalexthomas]

@@bluefish3607 cheers, I'll keep a note

[@ukrainewarroom]

"farmer gives me permission to fly here" you dont need his permission - he doesnt own the airspace. He does own your landing strip though 😂 Always better to have the OK than not though.

[@bluefish3607]

Yeah its nice to have a private place where no members of the public can complain tbh

[@EnglishTurbines]

Angle Mode isn't a self levelling mode....That's Horizon mode. Most of your flight is at 80% throttle, it's just burning through the battery. Half throttle wouldn't see much reduction in speed, but a much longer flight...Stay away from those high tension Pylon cables. Isn't our hobby under enough threat from the Fun Police already?....You should know better...🤔😳🇬🇧

[@bluefish3607]

To use autolevel in inav I believe you combine angle mode and autolevel on the same switch in the modes tab as I do. It only looks like I am close to those cables in the footage due to the lens, I am not actually that close you could fit a two storey house under those cables. You would have to fly blindfold to hit one of those pylons or cables 😀

[@staydown.normal5323]

just get duck tape lmao that what i use and i have no cracks from crashes

[@bluefish3607]

Lol duck tape can be used on anything, I have been focusing on not crashing but it's not working 🙂

[@staydown.normal5323]

@@bluefish3607 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmXWfmapa92spK8

[@staydown.normal5323]

@@bluefish3607 all my planes are fully covered in duck tape whole body wings everything or it will crack in crash or high speeds ... my top speed 132mph

[@testpilotian3188]

Dive that ditch, dive that ditch….

[@bluefish3607]

I love that ditch, although I thought I might flip into it on the landing :-)

[@blizzardfpv9584]

If you are learning with this AR wing 🪽 like me . Buy stocks in e-6000 😂 e-6000 is great and I like the AR WING 🪽

[@bluefish3607]

I have used plenty of E6000 and UHU Por during my learning curve this is my 5th AR Pro :-)