AR7200BX / Beast X : Setup Guide #4

[@RotoRCol]

even today 2022 you have the best setup guide videos about beastX in the entire world and explaining how to setup the radio and each step from zero and all the way to the end including the tuning menu, thanks to you I was able to program my clone turnigy 3D-H v2 flybarless system. I wish there was a full tutorial about old vbar control not touch from zero. keep alive this excellent rc helicopter channel

[@timsmith3753]

Freddy, thank you very much for your amazing Beastx setup videos! I have come back to heli flying after 20 year break and couldn’t get my head around flybarless set up. I couldn’t understand what all the menu options were actually doing. I did get my Trex 500x flying but it wasn’t great. Then I found you! 2 weeks ago and OMG what an awesome heli I have now. Thank you so much. (66 year old UK heli nut )

[@33forsaken]

My man !!!! thanks so much for the kind words it make all the hard work worth it buddy. Fly safe out there :)

[@kirkhill9239]

Freddy, Thanks for making these easy to understand videos. Also watched your beastX tuning. You are awesome. Took my 470L to the field, she flew smooth as silk. Thanks again.

[@33forsaken]

So happy to hear buddy :) fly safe out there

[@stubridgo7264]

Hi thank you so much for all you vids so so helpful keep coming back to them over the years top lad 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😁

[@NigelJames87]

I followed the BeastX manual got stuck, followed Freddy's video and completed the setup with no issues! Thanks Freddy

[@shaunmcgovern9514]

just wanted to say thanks i just built an align 500xt my first flybarless heli and the microbeastwould make my head hurt but watching this series you helped me complete the build you really know ya stuff thanks again bud on my way out for a test flight

[@33forsaken]

Hey thanks so much buddy, please let me know how your flights go and if you need any further help. You can message me on here or on FB messenger :)

[@shaunmcgovern9514]

well not sure what happened but firs flight was all of 9 seconds went up few feet then popped a wheelie tail hit the ground then well it disintegrated parts are on way gonna fix it and try again

[@ianlainchbury]

Really useful videos Freddie. I found you a long time ago and learnt a lot. Great to have you producing these videos again

[@33forsaken]

Thank you buddy :)

[@alwatt9367]

Quick question: Did you put the first setting back to -32 ? or keep it at +32 +32 + 32 on gyro. Freddy you are brilliant...If I had a heli company or FBL unit maker.. I would hire you to do videos on the product... I have never understood why manufacturers produce manuals that are difficult to follow and assume the customer has a good knowledge of setting up the black art of Helicopters... You make it so easy and I am very grateful to other guys who have taken the time to show setting a Beast X up but you are by far the best.

[@33forsaken]

Thank you so much for the very kind words buddy, and also yes once you have completed the programming I set everything to +32 for my first test flight. This makes sure that all flight modes have equal gain with no risk of accidentally flying in RATE mode. Then you just fine tune them from there.

[@rochaeliasbr]

I totally agree, the manuals are made for people who usually have a crystal ball, manuals in English mixed with Chinese, for me who do not read or speak English, I have to use the google translation. And the companies do not allow us to select one part of the manual to translate on google, or they block the translation, or put the Chinese together, and when we select a part, only strange characters come in. I think that’s why the Hobby of Helimodelos instead of growing is decreasing , and the Hobby of Drones has been growing. If the manufacturers do not change this concept of manuals, they will end up failing.

[@fastfrank61]

@@rochaeliasbr yes you are wright in the new manual for the 470LT M stans vertical and cablels backwards blue and in the Microbeast its red !!!!!!!!!

[@topgun5399]

@@33forsaken i like the idea of having it set in rate mode on normal mode because it will center the tail then i will flip to headlock and take off. if the blades are set mechanically to hold the tail so there is no sudden turns if i do forget i will not be caught off guard. i have the gyro gains on a seperate switch. but what is your feelings about that. its a matter for me to have the tail on center then flip it to gyro gain. preference for me. i never forget it anyway because it is habit forming.

[@RCHelimenace]

Great series of videos! Currently I am working on an old trex450 using the tgz380 which is a clone version of beastx v.3 for instructions. I have an old DX7 radio and I am just getting back into helicopters. The question I have for you is how do I go about getting gyro sense to show up in my functions list. My heli has been set up for years using the old reliable gy401 but going through the very similar instructions with the tgz380 I will need to get into the area of raté and heading hold in the radio. Hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction. Thanks for sharing.

[@33forsaken]

If I can recall in the older DX7 radios, you have to do the thing where you hold down the button and power on the radio to enter model select and all of that. Then you have to actually go into the channel assign and set the gyro to on in the channel assign. Then if I am remembering right it should then active the Gyro menu when the radio is powered on like normal. I hope this helps, it has been a while since I have used the older radios and systems lol.

[@rhipp100]

New to setting up a FBL unit Working on setting up my align Trex 550x Microbeast 5.2 unit. Point E is fine. I'm having a problem with point F Rudder direction step. Item one is fine I can set correct direction with rudder stick input, Item 2 rudder direction of Microbeast gyro is correct and lights blue. Item 3 is where I run into problems when I move the rudder stick full direction the led does not change from flashing lights to solid. I have increased the in points in the radio for the rudder to 150% neither light will change to a solid light. What am I doing wrong.

[@justinw.2376]

Freddy not sure if I’m missing something. Followed the tail setup and when I’m in hold or normal mode, the tail acts like you say it’s supposed to including the gyro movement. But when I change to stunt mode 1 or 2 the slider moves all the way to the right. Any input and it moves itself back to the right again. Any input on this?

[@JB6seven1]

Thank you for these vids. I got the microbeast plus 5.0 everything works great but my piro rate is kinda slowish. How can I get a faster piro rate. Using a spektrum nx8, trex 470l, MB v5.0

[@33forsaken]

do you have the mechanical limits all the way to the end of the tail hub and case?

[@rochaeliasbr]

Thanks for the video, I have the T-rex470LM, and MicroBeast v4.2 came, as I am a beginner, I paid for the T-rex to be assembled, but I'm not happy, because the servants are making noise, I think there is a little shaking, and also the tail servo hits the end, which even for me who is a beginner I think is wrong. But, thanks again for posting.

[@alwatt9367]

Ellas….Can you go to an experienced flyer for checking your settings? ..If I am wrong guys please correct me? Should be 0 to 0 on sub trim tx radio I am still learning don't but do not understand why heli manufcturers/electronic controllers leave you in the dark with poor manuals... Hire Freddy and save us all a big learning curve with excellent videos.

[@rochaeliasbr]

​@@alwatt9367 Hello Al Watt, thanks for the precious tip, I will see what can be done in this case.

[@33forsaken]

Hey guys never ever ever add sub trims in the radio with the beast x or related systems. Thats what the FBL system is for, so you can go into the travel menus for the setup and lower your setting. For the tail you can change the tail travel limits. Its all done in the system NOT the radio, adding sub trims will give you less then desired results with the system and causes issues while in flight. Also please NOTE it is perfectly normal for your servos to be sitting stationary and be buzzing or making noise. It happens with all helis, and is usually caused by the wight and tight restriction from the links. Servo buzzing is perfectly normal, however servo binding is not. There is a big difference between the two.

[@33forsaken]

Hey guys never ever ever add sub trims in the radio with the beast x or related systems. Thats what the FBL system is for, so you can go into the travel menus for the setup and lower your setting. For the tail you can change the tail travel limits. Its all done in the system NOT the radio, adding sub trims will give you less then desired results with the system and causes issues while in flight. Also please NOTE it is perfectly normal for your servos to be sitting stationary and be buzzing or making noise. It happens with all helis, and is usually caused by the wight and tight restriction from the links. Servo buzzing is perfectly normal, however servo binding is not. There is a big difference between the two.

[@alwatt9367]

@@33forsaken Freddy thank you for correcting me.. Sorry Ellias did not mean to give you bad information.

[@nvrqit9361]

Hello Freddy Can I used this 7200 on a trex 600 nitro ? If yes .. donn be I need a satellite?? One more thing what satellite I have to get ? Thanks

[@33forsaken]

Yes you can use it on any size helis that they make. It is a Spektrum based system so you will need a DSMX Sat and your radio of course.

[@roberto8281]

hi Freddy, can you make a video on pitch curve and throttle curve specter 700?

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy, so basically depending on the gearing you have and the ESC. The throttle curves will vary. For example, I have the HW Plat 200A with GOV on. So I have a throttle curve for each mode as follows. Norm 80% Idle 1 90% idle 2 100%. But this can very on your settings and GOV requirements. As for pitch I always run the standard -12.5, 0, +12.5. I hope this helps buddy.

[@kasifyldrm1981]

Merhabalar kolay gelsin 3 servo motor u aynı anda ve ayrı ayrı hareket ettirmek için nasıl bir sistem var yardımcı olur musunuz

[@victoribrahim8284]

Hi Freddy, you're videos was very helpful I am using microbeastx plus v4.2 basic my setting was factory default, now i am trying to get a hard and fast servo's throw. parameter menu (B) and (G), set the parameter menu B to transmitter and i increased G what is confused me that at the end of the parameter menu G show this messages (If using an increased Cyclic response (greater than „normal“ setting) IT IS RECOMMENDED TO SET PARAMETER menu point B (Control behavior) to transmitter (Status-LED blue). Additionally you should only add a very small amount of Expo by the transmitter or don‘t use any Expo at all. Otherwise this feature may not show any significant effect! ) what if i set parameter menu B to blue flashing and the G to blue flashing could be inconvenient to microbeast and cause some issues? what's your advice or recommendations... thanks in advance

[@33forsaken]

Hmm this is a very interesting one, let me ask you this have you tried flying the control behavior setting on the highest and also the cyclic speed setting on the highest as well before defaulting to the transmitter mode? You can also adjust the full cyclic servo throw as well to get more pitch closer to center and that will give you a better feel or faster feel. I have never really messed with the transmitter mode because I have always been able to use the setting to get my Heli to feel perfect. That may also be another good video idea lol

[@victoribrahim8284]

@@33forsaken no i never mess with the transmitter setting always set the beastx to factory defaults it was good on a small size like dominator 450l with a soft 3D but the 550 and the 700 size feel lazy. i used control style to pro and cyclic response to slightly increase but when i read the recommendation at the end of the parameter menu G i hesitated to select the highest point on parameter B and G. so what your suggestion or advices

[@nvrqit9361]

Sorry miss spelled do I need a satellite?

[@33forsaken]

Yes you need a Satellite with the AR7200BX system

[@cemaslan2791]

Freddy, i have beastx and i lived firmware update failure. My beastx out of use. Can you help me?

[@33forsaken]

I can try, can you give me a little more specific information on what you mean by "my best out of use?

[@nvrqit9361]

Ok Freddy thanks If you remember you help me out a while a go I didn’t want to text you cell What satellite I can order also I going to switch from Futaba to spectrum radio I’m not going to need a receiver if I used the 7200. And a spectrum radio right???

[@33forsaken]

Correct ! if you get Spektrum radio and the AR7200 (or which ever is the newer system) then you just have to provide one DSMX satellite and your all good to go.

[@Itzalwys1420]

Freddie... Question. My Trex 500 has too much neg pitch and not enough pos pitch. I can't for the life of me remember how to adjust that. My servos are at 90 and they move up and down in unison but I don't know how to adjust the travel and get them equal. Does that make sense and if so can you help me figure this out?? I think it should be simple but with everything being visually correct I don't want to start adjusting my links if that's not what I need to do. Maybe it is but I just don't want to since I'm not 100% sure. I appreciate your time and help with this if you can spare some time to help out!! Thanks in advance!!

[@33forsaken]

So the beast has a menu that allows you to adjust both the positive and negative travel for the collective pitch. I do believe its menu K.

[@fastfrank61]

I tink you have not good centerd yor Spashplate on middle position or to high or to low its one of the most imprtend thinks to have it centerd for enough way in both directions .

[@Itzalwys1420]

@@fastfrank61 I got it centered... Matter fact once I set my throttle to stay the same in mode 2&3 the tail stayed solid as a rock.

[@Itzalwys1420]

And it was all done as Freddie said in his video .. just have to watch. He does a great job explaining how to setup the ar7200!!!

[@fastfrank61]

@@Itzalwys1420 Hello but i have the Microbeast X Plus Versio 5.1.4 and i have 5 Algin and ownly problems with the last builded Algin Terex 470LT M Dominator Premium Robbe

[@ramonmejias2178]

Freddy I'm a newbie I have a old blade 400 I sent to install a flybarless head and a micro beastx plus installed the upgrade and lost my programming I have no idea what I'm doing can you help please

[@33forsaken]

How did you loose your programming, are you meaning in your radio ? What questions did you have buddy and I and I can try to help.

[@ramonmejias2178]

@@33forsaken my swashplate servos don't move now only the tail servos

[@ramonmejias2178]

Didn't loose programming on the radio

[@ramonmejias2178]

I plugged the micro beastx to the computer and installed the upgrade and now the swashplate servos aren't moving

[@fastfrank61]

@@ramonmejias2178 I think its chaper to buy a new Heli !!!!!!

[@rtoebak76]

Was wondering about my tailkick to the right when throttle up. More head speed seems to make the tailkick a little bit less. What else can be done? Maybe a good throttle pitchcurve? Turning up de gain helped to. I,m trying everything and apart from the heli flying great, the tail is a problem.

[@33forsaken]

Does the tail only kick while you spool up or does it kick while in flight or doing certain moves?

[@rtoebak76]

@@33forsaken when hovering it's fine. Turning the tail also fine, its when i throttle up a bit the tail kicks to the right and centers again. No tailwag, but tailkick.

[@Itzalwys1420]

@@rtoebak76 mine is doing the same thing... ??

[@rtoebak76]

@@Itzalwys1420 It maybe in the parameters menu for tail compensation. Have not tried it. But a good throttle pitchcurve should also work better. Im just waiting for freddy to answer when has the time.

[@Itzalwys1420]

@@rtoebak76 what do you have your throttle and pitch settings at??

[@roberto8281]

especially pitch normal and hold curve for beginners you can also answer here. thanks

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy, so basically depending on the gearing you have and the ESC. The throttle curves will vary. For example, I have the HW Plat 200A with GOV on. So I have a throttle curve for each mode as follows. Norm 80% Idle 1 90% idle 2 100%. But this can very on your settings and GOV requirements. As for pitch I always run the standard -12.5, 0, +12.5. I hope this helps buddy.

[@roberto8281]

@@33forsaken ok thanks

[@roberto8281]

Also normal pitch curve is - 100 + 100 ?

[@topgun5399]

@@33forsaken i have only flown in throttle curves and would like a video how to set that up governor on my AR7210BX. this is on a GOBLIN 570 and my 770 I sent you a couple of videos in messenger on my navigation lights i installed. they fly solid but would like more on the governor mode. i have talon 120 ESC on the 570 that i programed but i did notice i can set up governor in it . just did not follow thru. If you have video on that that would br great. i have a castle 160 amp with separate BEC on my Goblin 770.

[@Itzalwys1420]

I could probably go back and watch some of your videos or if you want simply send me a link to how to do it and I should be able to get it right from there ... My pitch at 50/50 is at 2.0° on my digital gauge. But I'm getting like -16° and +8.9° I think I'm right about it just needing to be the same but need your professional opinion!!

[@33forsaken]

So the beast has a menu that allows you to adjust both the positive and negative travel for the collective pitch. I do believe its menu K.

[@fastfrank61]

50/50 Pitch 0 and throw J/ 6 and PitchK/ -13red and +13 and blue read good the maual from Beast X Plus and flash the last firmeware5.1.4

[@joshuajenkins3232]

Freddy, I'm sorry but I've got extreme adhd And really lack patience. I was really trying to follow along with your video on setup but am unable to following with the amount of detail and repeating you do is really hard to keep all of it in mind. Please structure your videos better. I know it's not your fault but mine with the adhd. Sorry and thank you for the videos on how to setup the best controller. I'll Try and sit down again tomorrow and finish setting up my controller.