Divide & Conquer (V4): Faction Overview - Anduin

[@Omuraisu0]

Every orc gangsta until two companies of Carrock Guard rushes out from a single tree.

[@WhyTestify1]

"Orcs, when the trees start speaking Skin-Changer" lmao

[@radec5437]

@@WhyTestify1 "get to the damn wargs NOW"

[@karelleet]

"Every orcs a gangsta. But they aint no westcoast gangstas like myself!" - Lindon gangmember

[@zajtoja]

Oh, this might be the best DaC exclusive joke/meme Ive seen. Well done, sir.

[@p-lemon]

When he whispered those magical words at 1:00 I flipped out, I'm so excited

[@g0lgrim1]

Yeah! But why did you heared it? He sayed it was just between him and me! ;)

[@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566]

@@g0lgrim1 What does Galu say?

[@94jetsfan]

That just means he won't release another faction overview for 7 months until v4 comes out

[@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566]

@@94jetsfan ok thanks for the answer

[@p-lemon]

@@94jetsfan I'm hoping not I'm stuck in my house and need DAC to kill the time

[@lukamijic4335]

Arachîr: "This may well be the last *faction overview* before the mod is released." Me: "Don't give me hope." *Epic sad music in the background*

[@solsunman383]

"I gave hope to the Dunedain, I kept none for myself"

[@feelingpine9123]

Greenwood Foresters' unique "thing" among other Ranger units is that they get a +3 Attack bonus (both at range and in melee) against every Warg unit. Very handy considering both Moria and Dol Guldur produce rather a lot of those.

[@andrewjackson3603]

Hummingbird thanks, I really like how each ranger unit has been made to be unique, so I was curious about the Woodmen’s speciality when Galu didn’t mention it

[@johny16G]

Is that how the "effective against xyz" works, generally? Always adds +3 to attack?

[@hardstyle2289]

The "bee farm" is called an apiary, the individual hives are called, well, beehives :)

[@marloyorkrodriguez9975]

Can’t wait for V4 but still we understand you need to make sure that everything’s nice and tidy.

[@elspanoo]

just played an anduin champaign till around turn 200. hard time dividing troops between north and south to keep dol guldur and gundabad in check. moria didnt attack, if they would have than I would have lost a lot of towns. only when i got gundabad out of the game and dale helped me bring down dol guldur i attacked goblin town myself(which was around turn 100). dol guldur had basically taken out lorien, together with isengard. gundabad was really hard to beat, their units all outclass you. to me the faction is a 3 or 4, but its one of the most fun ones to play:) cant wait to try it in version 4

[@hardstyle2289]

It's obvious you haven't played the anduin after Gundabad got added, I would say it's one of the hardest factions in v3. The early game is extremely hard because both Gundabad and Dol Guldur focus pretty much only on you. The elves in both Lothlorien and Mirkwood are always extremely passive and it takes a while for the dwarves to fight Gundabad. Ofcourse it's true that if you survive the start Dol Guldur and Gundabad will be tied up against their neighbors but every campaign is easy lategame so that shouldn't really matter.

[@LyricalDJ]

I would argue Dol Amroth is easier than the Anduin. In fact, _before_ Gundabad got added, Galu himself has trouble with the campaign and mostly managed to hold on thanks to the one general with a cavalry boyguard which he removed not long after. So it wasn't all that easy then, either.

[@jerec1267]

As he said in the dol amroth video, its based on v4, and we dont know how difficult a faction is in v4 because we have not played v4

[@jamaly77]

@@jerec1267 that doesn't mean we have no clue at all. It's not like they changed the entire mod. And given the roster, Dol Amroth is always one of the easiest factions no matter what (if one knows how to use cavalry). You guys are taking these difficulty ratings too serious imo.

[@TristandeRobillard]

My guess for next faction: Dol Guldur?

[@TristandeRobillard]

Me after the reveal: BOW BEFORE ME YOU PITIFUL MORTALS, FOR I AM YOUR GOD

[@JTB_1020]

Are you not entertained?!

[@ItsWhyUno]

Great idea with a small intro, and as always interesting and a perfect guide to every faction. Keep safe, healthy and thank you, a beacon of stability in this crazy time. 👋

[@original5806]

I am loving the videos!!! Keep them coming Galu! Thanks to you and the modding team for the amazing game, cannot wait for v4!!

[@alexlasky8534]

Galu, you have an amazing speaking voice and vocab and your nazgul background readings are amazing. You could be a narrator for audio books or voice actor or somthing

[@masonwhite3629]

Can’t wait to see the dunedain Faction Overveiw

[@calbatorix77]

eorlstone is a new settlement if i'm not mistaken

[@nicolasq.8309]

0:54 don't worry Arachir I'm not telling anyone

[@crepley8335]

I just want to say thanks for creating those amazing banners! They look great, especially the Dol Goldur one.

[@PerunsZGRevenge]

Oh man, I am so hyped for this. More than for any other game release in a while that's for sure.

[@SpazzMatticusTheGreat]

We are going to get Bannerlord and DAC V4 damn near at the same time. I cannot describe my happiness.

[@Jauzness87]

Gundabad was such a nice edition. They really are quite unique looking, fits in well and are more imposing than the goblin swarms that inhabited that region before.

[@karrackhalcyon8826]

Trolls with silvery cav definitely dol goldur

[@nickf4564]

I just want to say, I do hope that after the completion of version 4 divide and conquer, that this will not be the end of your Channel. I do enjoy your content, as well as your knowledge of Middle Earth. What better way of learning something that I've admired since I was a child, and being able to watch you and also learn from you. However, I will respect your decision in the end. That is to say, if you decide to end your Channel, or I'm just out of my mind and you may not actually end channel. It just came to my mind. Anywho I do admire you, and respect you. Please keep doing the wonderful things you are doing. To be able to revisit a childhood memory and something that I love and adore is one thing that this world cannot take from me. I hope that you have a wonderful day or night depending on if or when you see this. With that being said I bid you a farewell and good fortune.

[@t4w4c4]

Nearing turn 200+ on my v3 Isengard campaign, and I can't wait to start all over with v4!

[@zetvariant]

Yay Dol Goldur, definitely an interesting campaign to cover and play given the Easterling insertion and the amount of surrounding enemies.

[@nitzky8936]

hm.... a faction of peasants surrounded by many hostile factions with much larger standing armies, relying on rough terrain and choke points to hold them off. sounds like Switzerland, which became famous for levies using pikes and halberds. would be interesting if Valesmen (who are currently a pretty useless weak spear unit) were given the model of Eryn Vorn Woodsmen (currently Enedwaith), especially since they look exactly like Woodmen Trackers, which is Anduin's basic archer unit. would help fighting off Dol Guldur's heavy cav.

[@jamaly77]

When you mentioned silver and red I suddenly remembered that it must be the new Dol Guldur cavalry unit ;)

[@andrewjackson3603]

My fav faction, cause I play a Beorning in Last Days of The 3rd Age mod for Mount and Blade

[@zajtoja]

Was there a Beorning option? That's interesting, I played TLD 5+ years ago so can't recall it that well. I used to play somewhat of a role playing campaigns in TLD, that was fun.

[@andrewjackson3603]

Zaj Xperia maybe their wasn’t then, but their is now. It’s had a ton of changes and additions since back when you played, one of my favorite mods. Beornings are one of the harder factions tho, since you have rather weak units But I don’t really care about their weakness, as TLDotTA is most fun when you role play

[@zajtoja]

@@andrewjackson3603 I had no idea they still uptade the mod, I thought they left it on auto update via bug reports. OH, Do you play TLD for vanilla M&B or the Warband one?

[@andrewjackson3603]

Zaj Xperia warband. I think you’re right that the oringal modders stopped long ago, but another team has continued to improve the warband version.

[@zajtoja]

@@andrewjackson3603 That's cool, I doubt whether I'll play it again (I barely play video games these days) but it's good to hear the mod didn't die, it was a lot of fun to play.

[@Kerendips]

Skin-changers are some of the mightiest units in the game. When they get up close they simply tear through everything. Nothing can stop them... unless cavalry hits them from behind.

[@BernddasBrotB7]

Hit points is how many times a model can 'die' before it dies. Defence is how hard a model is to 'kill'. Each attack is basically a dice roll modified by the attack stat, which either kills or doesn't kill.

[@Tommy-qm8zo]

I spotted the troll catapults early on and immediately crossed my fingers for Dol Guldur. Looking forward to that and eventually Rhûn down the road!

[@warriorpoet458]

Love these reviews also I understood the Belgium reference. Love that movie too!

[@Uberdude6666]

Part of me now wants to lead the beornings and valesmen of the Anduin to greatness, setting watch upon the high pass and the caverns of the goblins there, and establishing a new seat of power in Dol-Guldur, where Beorn himself will extend his power over all the north. I like how the eothed spearmen is an elite unit, but really they are more like the only regular main-line infantry you get, and they are actually a bit worse than the main line-infantry of more civilized nations.

[@arhexirthesnake]

Oioioioiii! Looking forward to the next Faction overview even more now! Of course, im patient and give you all the time you need to polish everything. :]

[@knightslegion1731]

Have you guys ever thought about adding a unit to the VoA that was the bear form of the skin changers? Something is telling me there would be some challenges pulling that off but it would be cool all the same

[@krangitebacon5039]

i think i remember hearing that a difficulty with that was if you made it a cav unit you would have to include a rider which would break the idea of a beorning rushing into battle in bear form, or it would have to be an infantry unit which would make it weird and complicated. i could be 100% wrong on this so dont take this as any actual information, but that could be an explanation as to why it wont be a thing

[@knightslegion1731]

@@krangitebacon5039 I never heard anything like that, but if it's true, why not try making it a beast unit?

[@krangitebacon5039]

@@knightslegion1731 that could work, but then that brings on a whole other list of weird coding things i'd bet, again, i have no actual clue what the situation is, but i know that there are usually a bunch of difficulties with oddly shaped units

[@lordoblivion8038]

Two words Animation problems

[@blankspace6687]

In case you're interested, in AGO submod to DaC skinchangers actually do change into bears when in melee

[@TalosBjorn]

Any word on what makes V4 different? The previous two versions were awesome, I forget what the numbers were, there was the one that added the Saruman of Many Colors feature and the Ar-Adunaim and then there was the one that added the Snow Orc faction which was bad ass. What does this new version add?

[@DangeHD]

There isn't any new faction i believe but a lot factions have been changed, for example the High Elves. Campaign Map has quite a lot of changes and the units aswell. It's rather a whole mod enhancement than focussing on a new faction.

[@knightslegion1731]

^those are correct, as well as the ring script for the dwarves of the blue mountains, new ancillaries, and some denother sanity element where Gondor generals lose their command skill if boromir and faramir die.

[@MrMcdanger]

so not alot changes, rohan still weak?

[@ItsWhyUno]

There is a lot of changes. I would say v4 is a new experience, since the AI is behaving more aggressive, the factions are more fluid, and every gameplay different. You have a treat to look forward to! 👍

[@andreumuntaner5600]

And don't forget the amazing reskin of the ar adunaim!!

[@The_Industry]

Amazing work as always, though wont lie, I'm a tad disappointed at the absence of any bears.

[@Vampirewolfking]

20:20 was that from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? :D

Yes! I am glad I am not alone. Of course, the British fellow is describing automatic rifles in that scene but it fit here I thought.

[@Vampirewolfking]

@ Some parts of that film are so wonderfully British. It is sad that it was Sir Sean Connery's last film.

[@peterm932]

I have an idea for a script for the anduin. something like "beorns call" where beorn has had enough of letting the goblins running around unchallenged and so you send radagast to different places to help persuade more of his kind to help fight against the evil factions and have revenge against the goblins. Maybe you could add different units for them this way of improve the beorn warriors.

[@danisrusski6297]

A "motley crew" of various forest-related units would be good. 1-2 more elvish archers, a Rohan unit or two who come to aid their Eótheod cousins, possibly a Dwarf or two as well.

[@qx0ni]

I second this!! Morse scripts and events in the game to shake things up!

[@hardstyle2289]

@@danisrusski6297 I don't think in the timeframe the game plays out anyone outside the region itself would come to help the Anduin (just because Beorn is annoyed), the Elves didn't even help Rohan/Gondor (or anyone else important) and Rohan is fighting Isengard. Would feel out of place, local units like a extra general with a few good units could work though. Still probably not impactful enough to increase the scripting load on the game for.

[@planetkc]

"Never seen Dwarves get defeated by Moria" oh-boy, 4.5.

[@TheGabriellegrand]

XDDDD same

[@tudorachecd]

Arachir, Moria never attacked me as Anduin in all my plays :)

[@robertspetrovics6137]

XP is glitchy, but there is a way to "fix" it. the way to do it is to train/retrain units just before ending turn, meaning - cycle trough your settlements using arrows near the settlement name. Once selected all you want to train/retrain, press "end turn" button. If you move any armies, agents etc between that and pressing end turn, it wont work. For units, that take more than one turn to train only way to get their xp is to retrain them using this method. It takes extra turn and money, but, if you want/need that xp, it can be done.

Yeah that is well known. That is precisely what we are gutting though. We just simply wont bother with xp boosts.

[@feurigerhorst]

Great work! I was wondering: did you actually ever consider creating a skinchanger bear unit? E.g. with a troll template Just interested

[@WhyTestify1]

That little whisper at the start has me ready, SOON!

[@grunt6799]

The music in this mod is so nice. :)

[@PoldyStark]

I cannot wait for version 4 to be out!

[@scipio0793]

Hey Galu, im pretty sure the vale defenders (pikemen) come after the barracks event and not before as u demonstrated in the video :). Ty for all the work and hours ur team puts in this fantastic mod!!

[@feelingpine9123]

They come in before.

[@nicolasq.8309]

When Galu says 2/5 I hear 4/5... dunno why

[@Hary_Half-Mast]

“Trolls with silvery elites” darn it, I forgot about the Easterlings of dol goldur. My guess (and hope) was for Angmar. They technically get snow trolls and I thought the “Iron Crown” men were perhaps silvery enough

[@postmanmark25]

Great video, I need version 4 in my life more then you can imagine, I am sat at home with a few tins of beans bored stiff ! Any idea of the release date lol

[@christlincoln5829]

8900 stones, damn that is a lot of stones...

[@syndicategrim3452]

Hey Galu, I noticed the nazgul already have the new names, I apologize for my nitpicking but I was wondering will they have their full names including their titles like Chieftain Lagoren "of the Neck" or Leofric "The Bowed" or will they just have the names alone, just a thought.

[@karrackhalcyon8826]

I hope they can somehow include the titles

[@Alex_Fahey]

24:25 I find the schiltrom useful as a charge breaker tactic. You put a fodder spearman unit up front and preform a schiltrom to take an infantry charge and then counter charge with a unit of strike infantry or cavalry. Because of the compact and rounded shape, they take very little damage from a charge and break the formation of the charging unit. This makes a charge much more effective in destroying morale, and since the target is already engaged, they won't be able to properly fight the charge by bracing or counter-charging. It requires a very defensive battle to pull off because it takes a long time to set up the schiltrom. It's a very situational move and not that much more effective than not doing it. It's just barely worth using in my opinion.

[@akiramasashi9317]

Ah, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I see you are a man of refined tastes as well.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

When you get the chance could you do Gondor my favorite faction.

[@hi_marq6651]

It's Dol Guldur, silver cavarly is Khamuls Easterlings

[@stuartwill1992]

Hello Alachir, I don't know if this will be seen but here goes. In my V4.5 Anduin play through I experienced a CTD after completing a successful siege of Dol Guldur. Is there a known CTD issue with that map or a particular unit? Thanks for your time.

[@lucasmujica3084]

The hype is real!

[@tamerofhorses2200]

I would suggest adding starting watchtowers to every region, it's truly one of the most annoying things about medieval 2 that you have to take your time at the beginning of the campaign to set up watchtowers in your homeland, whereas your enemies are busy moving troops into your regions.

[@jobvermeeren2542]

Can you also do a video to summarize all the changes made in v4? as a sort of trailer?

[@David-qm2qj]

My Dwarven heart weaps for seeing no dwarven Faction Overwiev.

[@thehangryphalangite739]

Weird Question, are there any plans for new factions in Version 5?

[@melkor3496]

The Hangry Phalangite Arnor hopefully.

[@ΔημήτρηςΚο-ο4ω]

Maybe the most difficult campaign after enedwaith against isengard and angmar. GALU:Yeah thats an easy two.

[@zeroxcrusher]

I cant wait for this. Please release it before I get corona

[@jaa6325]

Does the Carrock have a unique battle map?

[@Blooticus]

Yes

[@TheWardOH]

why are you guys planning on getting rid of the barracks event?

[@sebastiantirado3675]

Why not give the vale a script that makes them choose between building up beornings or eothad?

[@andreumuntaner5600]

You forget that in the vale of the anduin live various grups of people, you can't actually choose one of them thus you have some variety in your roster: eotheod, beornings, woodsmen, hobbits and some elves. They are separete peoples who fight side by side to survive. As galu said, they are not a uniformed nation

[@bamblaster5865]

eorlstone, does that settlement replace one of the tharbad?

[@Justin-fg2im]

In my playthrough with the Ar Ardinaim the Vale seem to be spamming full stack armies of just generals and it's a real problem just thought you should know.

[@alexandertheok4868]

Are there any submods that affect this faction?

[@maxcreamer8087]

I’m thinking of buying medieval 2 just for this mod and because I need something to do for quarantine. Is it worth it and which version of the game should I buy?

[@Florensbond]

Totally worth it. It’s the best game I ever bought on PC only for the mods and submods like Stainless Steel 6.4 and The Third Age: Total war. It’s a very cheap game and very worth the buying I would say. You need to buy Medieval 2: Total war Gold edition in order to install Third Age total war.

[@chrisamon4551]

Omg, yes to getting rid of the barracks event! Every orc faction would benefit so much from being able to produce trolls early!

[@feelingpine9123]

Things like this are why it needs to be planned out very carefully. Being able to pump out Trolls starting on Turn 1 would be rather game breaking. Alternative measures to 'slow down' the deployment of elite units would need to be discussed.

[@chrisamon4551]

Hummingbird Oh, definitely agree. Not turn one! But they should have the ability to produce troll pens once certain other requirements are met. Trolls actually getting out on the field by turn 30 might be more ideal?

[@bogtash]

Galu, will version 4 be a full re-download of DaC or will it be a patch style install?

[@CommanderTman]

I don't know if it was on purpose but the Stoor models are way bigger than that of the Shire Hobbits.

[@FryzuxD]

Can't wait to crash enethwaith as Ar-Ardunaim... AGAIN! (tricky actually. The have a lot of ranged unit, and what you lack is cavalry. Also, there usually quite a lot of them.)

[@willc1294]

I'm currently fighting them as Isengard (still pre barracks) so out-archering them by spamming uruck archers and raiders along with light Dunland cav to run down routers 😁

[@cinaralpcilingir]

I cant wait for v4 in lockdown lmao

[@BobMcBobJr]

hey, I don't know if this is your fault or not but units seem to get wrecked when another unit pushes through them. I don't know why this is. I had a unit of elves get killed by a half unit of snaga stalkers that charged through them.

[@stoyanb.1668]

Dol Guldur always steamrolls everything north of them. elves, dale, dorwinion, the ai wrecks all of them, usualy by turn 60 theyre sieging thrandulls halls.

[@rafaolszewski3466]

What about a script in a future versions that could give Anduin Radagast after completing certain goals, for example taking or defeating dol Guldur. And maybe give him custom bodyguard like istarii guard or something (then it could also be given to Gandalf) it's just an cool idea I think 😁

[@goryanadazaghal1206]

Galu what is your upload schedule

[@tictac-bl4so]

Can you please put out a video on how to get the mod

Go to my channel, check the 'DaC Installation & Guides' playlist about half way down the page.

[@cstrutherskgs]

I miss old Umbar. I wish i wasn’t the only one.

The older versions are available on Mod DB. Just download those and play Umbar.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Arachîr Galudirithon fair point. Thanks.

[@solsunman383]

Trolls? Instinctively Gundabad? Or maybe Dol Guldur? I'll go with Gundabad as they're my favourite evil faction. Black and red banners? Argh! You tricked me. It's definitely Dol Guldur

[@Bigboii7]

Top 10 strike infantry please

[@batmunkhulzii4523]

My TATW.cfg file is not working. Does anyone has a same problem? How do I fix this? PLS help...

[@Blooticus]

Did you get it working?

[@swamperytooter8891]

eyyyyyy lagoren of the neck is here

[@swamperytooter8891]

1:43 i was not thinking lagoren woud replace harmurah i thought zagar would becuase he hates elves

[@sotiriospeithis6659]

Pikes and halberds cannot hide no matter what, just like leading generals, which is beyond stupid. One of my greatest gripes with the game

[@jaboiii7058]

So nothing h as s changed for anduin.

[@Laureasairon]

Stoor hobbits in V3 were/are too tall. Is this intended? Just a minor remark.

[@slaughterlord4190]

As I saw the silver cavalry I thought Dol Guldur... and I was right

[@angusellingsen5531]

Is it Mordor?

[@irohn]

Thanks for another overview!

[@lupulul]

Gallu, will you (the team) please include somewhere on the forum a list of all the soundtracks you put in the mod? I been searching for the first song in V3's main menu since forever and did not find it. Maybe you posted and I am oblivious. Just wanted to put this out there :D looking forward to your next release!

[@bbdawise]

There are two songs that play on the main menu. The main song is called "Divide and Conquer" by Marios Aristopolous, and the second is "Gollum's Song" by Emiliana Torinni. I doubt I spelt either of those names right but you should be able to find them with that.

[@lupulul]

@@bbdawise God bless thee, kind soul!

[@miroslavskubal2397]

so, Galu. On turn 4 i got besieged in 3 settlements at once. From the start, i counted on something like this, so i recruited all i could and yet still i have no chance of defending agoinst full stack of Gundabad and Mirwood. I really don't think that is is something unusual and i don't really mind it. i like it to be challenging, but that is really not because i woul be a new player, far from it actually. the rating should be 4 and maybe perhaps 5. Don't take it as a moan, it's just delivering of my point of view. Cheers. Love Dac and your channel.

[@barbary13]

I'm guessing gondor im currently at 39:51 (after seeing trolls im changing to dol guldur***

[@Gentleman_Dan]

I would have guessed Dol Guldur due to the silver units- such as Khamul's Shodow Knights- But because I checked the comments I knew it was them. No cheating next time. I promise!

[@MightyWolve]

An ETA om release? :)

[@Blooticus]

7

[@kaimuller169]

in my current anduin campaign dwarfs lost khazad dum -.-

[@willc1294]

Good, greedy little bastards tend to sit in their mountain passively and get rich in my campaigns 😁

[@kittogashi8561]

Yay! Guessed it in one try

[@foiv5462]

I got frustrated when you said dwarven city never fall to goblins because in my campaign the dwarves lost that city and somehow they took euro and there they live now

[@mrduck6720]

Do not underestimate Rhosgobel. Because the AI is so stupid, they send a small force to take a small settlement like a village, which has a garrison one or two units less. However, what they don't expect are the Skin-changers, who, with some of your own cheap units to help, mop the floor with them 9/10. I kid you not, Dol Guldur didn't get past Rhosgobel in my Anduin playthrough once until a Nazgul finally came with a banner army.