Divide & Conquer (V4): Faction Overview - Ered Luin

[@yaketysaks]

Thank you again so much to you and the team for DAC: I'm having an absolute blast and am just blown away by the attention to detail and sheer amount of content. If DAC were released as a standalone game you could charge full price and it would still be beyond worth it. You guys must have worked extremely hard on it and should be very proud

[@yaketysaks]

Royal Canadian Moose Almost feels wrong to get it for free

[@angrypandable]

@@yaketysaks you can always donate, I think Arachir has a patreon. I plan on doing that once I have some disposable cash. Dark-Lord knows they’ve earned with all the hours I played having a blast!

[@bukvajzr]

ered luin dwarves is exceptional campaign with scripts

Appendices: 1) It is Azaghal's Tomb Protectors that you unlock if you reject the rings - not Gabilgathol Guard 2) Ered Luin have a pike focus in that they will have many more pike units fielded than anybody else. Khazad-dum may have a better pike unit but it is much rarer. Pikes will be the bulk of Ered Luin's armies for much of the game (if you want them to be). 3) There is an additional relic hunt script that kicks in if you accept the rings. You get a few ancillaries from it and it tells you what to do in its own pop up message. 4) The One Ring script has not been edited yet in line with the changes to Ered Luin so even if you accept the dwarven rings, you will still always be given the 'good' option of the One Ring.

[@50ULL355]

Maybe in later versions the gabilgathol guard could be transformed to pikes?

[@jaa6325]

What will the invading dwarven armies do if you are yet to recalim the cities taken by the Eriador armies?

[@willc1294]

so the Gabilgathol guard is an entirely unique unit for the starting faction leader and you never get another no matter which choice you make?

[@50ULL355]

@@willc1294 re read galus comment, specifically point 1. The gabilgathol guard is your available everywhere elite. The choice is between the grimborn reavers(accept the rings)and azhagals tomb protectors(reject the rings)

[@willc1294]

@@petesperandio I think someone else here commented that in this video, Arachir got Azaghal's Tomb Protectors mixed up with Gabilgathol Guard. The actual option is either Azaghal's or Grimborn Reavers depending on your choice re. the Dwarven ring script. Gabilgathol Guard is the unique unit for your faction leader, while all the other Generals have Tumunzahar Nobles as their Bodyguard.

[@RandomWitcher]

Amazing work, dwarves fan here and I really like how you made a clear distinction between the dwarven factions (had a blast with erebor, destroying enemies with axes to the face!). It really brings a tear to my eye seeing my favorite TW game with my favorite mod and submod still being carefully taken care and updated after so much time :) . That said, lately I have found myself kinda not completely satisfied with the weapon choices for the dwarves. Specifically, how they (except Khazad-Dum iirc) started losing some of their ap weapons and how some units were changed to sword-wielders. I understand that having almost all units with AP weapons is a bit difficult to balance but I just dont like seeing the the bodyguard unit of Ered Luin with 2h swords (for example) when, iirc, they used to have 2h HAMMERS which was the only reason I played them in the first place (I mean, big ol' hammers crushing orcses!). Other examples could be made too (bodyguard of erebor, basically all the sword&axe units of all dwarves were swapped for sword&shield) but it leaves me a bit sad because dwarves used to be THE AXE/HAMMER FACTIONS. I mean, no other faction has/had that feature. I hope I dont sound too critical, I love the mod and I really enjoy it.. it's just that it saddens me a bit to see dwarves with common swords, specially in the elite tier troops. I know you probably wont change them and it's totally fine, because I am sure that a lot of people like them as they are now and it seems you and the team really like them as they are. BUT, if I could ask/suggest ONE thing to change for the dwarves factions(if possible, of course): give them some axes/hammers to more units VISUALLY at least (only visually, don't give them AP value if it makes the unit OP) because imo that is what dwarves would prefer. Again, just an opinion. I love the mod and how you add things to it. Sorry if I sound offensive, it's not the idea. PD: Just finished Erebor on v4 short campaing, it was quite challenging at the start against the snow-orcs and their last stand army was so tough I had to retreat to Dain's halls and concentrate there to beat it, but I LOVED IT (even with the thing I mention before) so I congratulate you and the team for the awesome work!

[@kanefelarca7660]

Already hyped for next weeks Gondor, even through I already know everything about them in the new version. I just love their units, settlements, faction, really everything about Gondor really brightens your soul.👍

[@alexanderp7083]

One certainly feels a real sense of maintaining and trying to restore majesty as Gondor

[@kaiweishen7015]

19:14 KD and Erebor be like Execute Order 66 I see what you did there Galu

[@andreumuntaner5600]

KD and Erebor: attack Ered Luin* Sad Star Wars music**

[@jarskil8862]

@@andreumuntaner5600 KD and Erebor: Eled Luin, Melkor is evil! Eled Luin: From my point of view Free peoples of Middle Earth are evil! Kd and Erebor: Then you are lost....

[@50ULL355]

I love how you've interwoven the new grimborn with the first age lore

[@djitidjiti6703]

Suggestion: Move the Blue Dwarves to the southern Ered Luin chain, for reasons: 1) The lore suggests that's where the Blue Mountain dwarves are, whereas the north was only Thorin's brief colony; 2) it makes more sense for elves and Dunedain to fight Angmar in empty but historic Arnor and Lindon, ala Rise of the Witch-King; 3) dwarves are meant to be greedy, but never outright evil - a war with Endewaith or Bree in Minhiriath over trade routes, food tribute and timber makes more sense than fighting Angmar for empty lands in the cold north for no real reason. It would also challenge Enedwaith and Bree, instead of allowing them to form massive empires. Have them be mercantile/mercenary focused (like Bree) and make their good guy goals to make the south safe for trade and travel. The Grimborn lore still works - they take the rings and want to reclaim the northern Ered Luin and seize the Shire's food and timber.

[@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566]

These are good points, i agree!

[@cronicasdeltiempo7540]

The only problem I see is that they will uterlly cruah bree, enedwaith and Dunland and Southern Eriador will become a dwarven empire.

[@feelingpine9123]

This would limit EL to a single settlement and effectively give 4 more valuable settlements to HE

[@JasonBoreu]

@@feelingpine9123 but you guys could simply transfer 1 or 2 of the northern settlements to the south.

[@petesperandio]

@@JasonBoreu If the Dwarves get a split realm, they will never do anything. The AI has no idea what to do with split realms, so it just wigs out and doesn't do anything. They only did that with the High Elves because they never did anything anyway. An Ered Luin with the northern settlements and Buzra-Dum would probably be completely passive.

[@hamarbiljungskile8953]

Pikes and crossbows? So, Ered Luin are essentially Rhodoks?

[@narcisoferreira9976]

Yes

[@SpazzMatticusTheGreat]

Hamarbi Ljungskile Butterlord Harlaus does not approve.

[@mattaffenit9898]

Yes, but with iron discipline and tough armor. So Rhodoks if they recruited Swadians and Nords.

[@hamarbiljungskile8953]

@@mattaffenit9898 You get that Swadian propaganda outta here.

[@narcisoferreira9976]

@@mattaffenit9898 Swadians are described has the most disciiplined troops with their sharpshooters and sergeants and in game you see they have good armour

[@willc1294]

Well, screwed up my EL campaign earlier today. Turtled mainly and built up my two main settlements from the start instead of expanding much, so I had to face the Elven army after getting the messages about Eridador rises. I had the General, his heir, Grindfarn and the other rever units along with pikemen, crossbows and the rest of a stack in Thorin's halls. Defeated most of the enemy by holding them at the gate, with losses of about 30 % . All the enemy had left were 4 catapult units sitting outside, so I foolishly charged my army outside across the bridge only to have my leader, heir , Grindfarn and other general die in the first salvo of firey catapult projectiles. Lol guess I forgot the slowness of the dwarves running compared to the other races (since its a while since I played another dwarven faction - KD), but couldn't believe my back luck in losing 4 generals in a single salvo. My bad decision at the end of the battle aside, Arachir says that spawned armies are absolutely intended to take the settlement, well I was able to hold off the rest of the High Elven army attacking through such a narrow chokepoint pretty well consiering how many low tier pre-barracks units I had in my stack. Didn't see any army attack Fahamgathol however.

[@StratMan9009]

Yeah neither did I. Only one attack. Which I'm kind of ok with tbh, I played one warm up game and am now playing a proper campaign and in both the elves and Bree declared war before the scripted battle after accepting the rings and relations were set to shit. So I'm already at war with both of these neighbors and having only one settlement to defend allows me to actually use an army to try and hold outer settlements. Feels tough but not oppressive.

[@bookybrony526]

I do like the Tercio style of the Ered Luin Dwarves. It's probably a good thing they don't get reliable cavalry, otherwise they'd likely crush everyone.

[@thegreatprophet5421]

If you pick the side of the grimborn (aka take the rings). You actually do not get those azaghal tomb protectors and always get the gibilgathol. At least when i played the script when v4 came out.

[@andreumuntaner5600]

I'm playing my ered luin campaign now and it works the same for me. I always get Gabilgathol guard

[@feelingpine9123]

That's correct Galu just got the Gabilgathol Guard and Azaghal's Tomb Protectors the wrong way around. It's the ATP that are good-route only.

[@kml6482]

Arachir thank you and your team a lot for all of your hardwork creativity and dedication

[@cptsunpraise6771]

Played as the ND and boy did I have a blast fighting the goblins, Angmar and eventually the Dwarves. They really gave me a run for my money and they basically trashed me after a while.

[@theodorewellington9783]

Really enjoying the mod and general content great work and looking foreword to future versions

[@alexclawson9341]

Got to say I literally get through my week by guess how much longer I got to wait for another campaign overview video.

[@Altar360]

Woah, LOVE the Gundabad Hammer redesign! Good to see the factions constantly get updates on their design that match the established aesthetic of the films. Was a pet-peeve of mine in the Vanilla mod that dwarves had these smoothed out and rounded norse like designs when the films made it clear that Dwarf designs are always jagged and angular, never smooth and rounded.

[@lithpylarry2019]

I love how the Royal Armour retinue is just dwarven armour from Skyrim

[@masseyfurguson8871]

How many invasions do you want after the Grimborn accept the rings? Arachir: Yes

[@TheRybob]

48:17 those are Gondor's Bodyguard's fully upgraded, Sons of the Fallen i just played a week with and omg i love them for Arnor what a beast of a Unit! Halberd Units really are amazing now(Osgiliath Guard basically same unit as Sons of fallen)

[@Laureasairon]

Even though it takes quite a bit of hypocrisy to make a complaint about lore, It even says in the Ered Luin Green book that most of the Blue Mountains dwarven settlers had been located in the southern chain during the Third Age. Regardless, thanks for the videos and the mod!

[@matrixmdog]

I was debating playing these guys last night looks like youv helped me decide. Time for the dwarfs to rule the world

[@LyricalDJ]

It's interesting to see how the mod changes over time. There are certainly some changes I like less (like quite a bit of the Ar Adûnâim rework or with Harad still having cavalry bodyguards) but I really like the state of Ered Luin as of version four. And whatever bugbears I might have I always appreciate the work you all put in. And while that might go without saying.. saying it every once in a while is not unimportant. So.. thanks.

[@lordoblivion8038]

What about the past videos regarding of retake Southern Ered Luin and the whole "Controversially" The second Balrog tho:P.

That hasn't been implemented yet.

[@ortenziovecchio5363]

My first ered luin campaign I was losing my mind. I play with house rules of no adoptions or recruiting generals (only coming of age and a marriage once in a while) and my first NINE children were all girls which is ironic since in the lore dwarven women are rare

[@wyliehj]

Jonathan Vecchio I try and play with that rule too, adoption messages get so annoying and it feels lame to fill up your family tree with randoms lol (I sometimes train generals tho if I could use one cause that feels a lot more fair)

[@jdoc3118]

@@wyliehj Tolkien places great importance on bloodlines so adoptions seem too lore breaking .I avoid them as well - unless playing as orcs.

[@Shark2th5000]

When you play as a good faction, you get the option upon getting the One Ring to bring it to the Council of Elrond, and if you are playing a bad faction you can bring it to the Black Gate. How does the Ring Script play out if you play a bad Ered Luin?

[@sutfinnhertog5849]

I guess like enedwaith, becouse your told to go neutral to the worlds afairs in the initial message

[@ThemCrispyWaffles]

In the change logs for 4.5, its stated that the ring script still plays out as goods. It hasn't been worked yet.

[@knightslegion1731]

I really like the background you wrote for the grimborn dwarves, especially the tie in with thingol's murder. My only issue is their name. I feel like calling them *grim* is a little meta. They would not see themselves as grim, but the *true* sons of dwarven culture. So they'd call themselves Pureborn or Truesons, or something like that.

[@mattaffenit9898]

Grim is also Germanic for obscured or hooded, so it could be fitting. Hence one of Óđinn's names being Grímnirr.

[@knightslegion1731]

@@mattaffenit9898 explain more why you think "hooded" is thematically appropriate.

[@mattaffenit9898]

@@knightslegion1731 Obscured. Cloaked in shadow. Hidden. Obfuscated.

[@trollwayy5981]

I was so excited for this overview

[@roygrutchfield5715]

Thanks. Having a fun game fighting Elves and Dwarves. Have not loaded the hotfix and was taken surprise by the Dwarven attacks even after being allied but it has made the game more interesting, great work , thankyou.

[@lithpylarry2019]

Watching Galu’s videos have single handily improved my English grades more than all my years of schooling

[@mustacheBpf]

You guys should give them an elite pike, otherwise I don't really see the whole: "Pike and crossbow" theme

[@astilla9]

EL: "we are the pike experts" KD First Legion: "Let us show you how its done, noobs"

[@feelingpine9123]

You're able to produce far, far more pikemen than any other dwarven faction. Nice as First Legion are their recruitment is very slow and won't appear until the very late game. Ered Luin Pikemen and Longbeard Phalanx can easily make up half of your stacks right from the start.

[@stoyanb.1668]

ya ered luin is your typical corner camp and fill everything with bolts faction. they also have the smallest roster of the dwarves.

[@nolesquad5162]

I know its minor, but at 25:56 its Silmaril, not Simlaril

[@kasrkin519]

I know Galu said Ered Luin are easy but has anyone else had repeated experience like mine? By the time I reach across to Angmar, they're enormous and totally have N Dunedain on the ropes. They can send stack after stack which are easily beaten, but wear down my own armies, and mine have get barely any replenishment units that when finally trained have to travel all the way from home provinces.

[@FrostyPhoenix]

That's just the nature of how the game operates in the late game, most empires have reached "critical mass" and the challenge is then just trying to find interest in a campaign that as you have said is tedious

[@SwampGreen14]

Finally I found someone else in the comments!I thougt I was just being stupid. I tried it 2 times, first time I tried to rush them, but got wittled down. First I thought:" Eh, I probably didn't prepare enough." So l started a second attempt where I turtle for the first 30 turns, only taking 3 rebel settlements, but then I got harried even worse. I'm not that skilled of a Medieval 2 player, but that shit is just depressing, seeing how even your Pikedwarfs just get whitled down while Angmar just drowns you in 250-sized trash units.

[@ohmyshou1der]

Splendid work as usual Galu and team. Sadly I am a scrub and won't try out the hard path any time soon.

[@jimtellsyou]

Thanks for this but I was hoping to hear something about the script that has Ered Lyon go to collect those 3 items from ND Rohan and the island, The Horn ,Narsil and the Helm. I got them with the spies but could not figure out how to do anything with them after that

[@darkpenguin7277]

i have the same problem, the spy that went to the island for the helm took it back to thorins halls worked, but another spy now has the horn and narsil and cant figure out what to do with them, and there are spare anciliary slots on the generals profile so it hasn't automatically gone to him

[@MrSimeonk]

Tried the "no" option for the first time on V.5 and the ships are much better than taking the rings. The constant trade boost from remaining allied to the High elves makes the campaign a lot easier.

[@kiokenkid]

Definitely doing a Ered Luin campaign right after I finish my Khazad Dum campaign!

[@_Gandalf_The_White]

Yeah it's not even a contest, Grimborn Reavers look absolutely badass, I always pick a unit based on rule of cool, stats are secondary. That's why Isengard is my favourite faction, that uruk-hai armour is so bloody cool and practical too!

[@phoebusapollon2313]

Grimborn can be in fact lore accurate if they're like lost clan of petty-dwarves, the only "evil" dwarves we have in Tolkien's universe.

[@willc1294]

Petty dwarves were just outcasts and unskilled/lowly drarves though, so weren't any threat in the lore.

[@phoebusapollon2313]

@@willc1294 but they're the only kinda evil dwarves we have so why not use them

[@willc1294]

@@phoebusapollon2313 for V5 they could perhaps add gyrocopters that drop poison gas bombs for EL faction :D

[@johnwheatstreet]

Amazing work from the DAC team as always!!

[@jarskil8862]

KD and Erebor: Eled Luin, Melkor is evil! Eled Luin: From my point of view Free peoples of Middle Earth are evil! Kd and Erebor: Then you are lost....

[@cryohellinc]

What happened to the Ring path Building? As far as I recall it was some form of a factory building for dwarfs.

[@ishoulddegoogle]

You say that the Gabilgathol Guard and the Grimborn Reavers are mutually exclusive depending on the choice taken during the ring script, but I'm on turn 75 of an Ered Luin Campaign, took the rings, and can train both. Is this a bug? I downloaded V4 on the 28th of March and I have not downloaded any hotfixes or anything because I wasn't aware of the discord until recently. Also, a huge thanks to you and the team for all you guys do. You really help to bring Middle Earth to life, at least for me.

Read the pinned comment

[@Kirrj]

I like the choice mechanic of this mod - it changes the game a lot. But there is some problems when one choice is more interesting and challenging than the other. Who plays as evil Khand or as good Ered Luin? I think there should be an expansion to the good choice for Ered Luin. When Dain and Brand rejected the Rings there was a huge Easterling invasion to their domains. So why doesn't this happen to Ered Luin? Angmar and goblins may send some doomstacks through the northern side of the map. You should earn your safety!

[@McHobotheBobo]

Nogrod and Belegost, last of the western dwarf holds! Oh Nogrod, betrayer and woemaker, thy avarice sunk Beleriand! What comes from thee now? The corrupting again of the Ered Luin - Grimbeards for grim work

[@wallywolf814]

Out of curiosity Galu said that Ered Luin's play style is that of pikes and crossbows what're the other two dwarves play styles then?

[@andreumuntaner5600]

Erebor has the more agressive units like axethorwers and 2h axmen and mattocks but lacks ranged units while khazad dum has the best well armored defensive units, mostly spearmen and has good archers. What they have all 3 in comon is good morale and stamina. They all relly on mercenary cavalry from bree, anduin and dale

[@seawind930]

Axes... and crossbows.

[@billydeewilliams8909]

I note from looking at the text files that came with V4 originally that you initially (or at some point) called the Grimborn the Dourhand, from LOTRO. In my own version, I changed it back because I've always loved the Dourhand from a flavor/lore perspective, and my version strongly hints that Grindfarn is Skorgrim Dourhand in some form (he, in my version, having "died" and disappeared when Beleriand sank and the Blue Mountains were broken). In LOTRO, he's some kind of wight or undead dwarf, reanimated by the Witch-King or Mordirith. I realize that the Dourhand don't work with the gameplay goal of the script, neutrality, since Skorgrim and the Dourhand were explicitly allied to Angmar and even fought against representatives of Isengard in Bree-land. But I'm very much intending to play an explicitly Dourhand campaign. Unfortunately, I have to be pretty careful how I install this hotfix or it's going to overwrite all my homebrewed text files. Thanks for giving us new ways to play.

[@lordoflinks4668]

That is actually because the Ered Luin script was based off my sub-mod that added in the script for V3. In my submod, the Dwarf clan was Dourhand. They were changed as it was decided that the main mod of DaC would make up their own stuff rather than use stuff from other games which is why the nazgul names were also changed. I personally think there are no problems with the Dourhand as I got the impression they only allied with Angmar because Angmar essentially used Skorgrim's corpse as a puppet to manipulate them. Anyhow, as such, once things have stabilized a bit in terms of the hotfixes, I will release a submod that will restore the Dourhand to the script along with some minor features (Such as Grindfarn being able to find Skorgrim's helm).

[@valentintapata2268]

Hi, I'm not interested in Discord, can you put the hotfix and all other additions to the MOD DB, next to the version 4 DAC. Thank you for all of your hard work.

[@njsevenh]

I was very confused when at turn 50 the High Elves only sieged Thorin's Halls and not Fahamgathol like the overview states. I then realized that I have the Dac 4.1 version. I would have saved a lot of money and stress had I know I only needed to prepare one of my cities...

[@StratMan9009]

I also only had the siege at Thorin's halls! So much wasted money lol

[@sashasoltys5805]

What happens if the first invasion armies claim Thorin's halls and Fahamgathol and you do not reclaim them before the Dwarven attack? Do the Dwarves attack the Elves/Bree/ND?

[@Medik_0001]

You have to fight the Grimborn in Lord of the Rings Online if you start as a dwarf funnily enough! Good video

LOTRO has its own clan called the Dourhand.

[@justinbieber5121]

If you want to survive the dwarf attack just protect thorins halls with a large army. In Fahamgathol you dont need much troops because the dwarfs will use most of the 60 min timer (if you have a battle time limit) and they will lose.

[@SpiderAUT88]

Does this dwarven general that you get if you accept the rings have a special ability in battle? If not he should definitly have a moral boost in which he sais: "Let's give em a good hammering!"

[@StarryTurambar]

Every time I play Ered Luin, Nar always gets killed in a riot, just my luck! XD

[@rogueassassin875]

then dont leave him in a rioting settlement :P

[@andrewplck]

I play now Northern Dunediain campaign, and I was forced to conquer Ered Luin, as they took the rings and attacked Shire. It was sad, but damn, that sweet sweet mines income!

[@andrewplck]

@@imnotyourbuddyguy9713 well, as far as my experience goes, I always rush towards Angmar. Bree can defend from Enedwaith and Dunland at first at least, and Angmar have a habit of expanding fast. Ered Luin, if they remain good, will help you with them if you leave them a pathway towards Angmar (like cities they can conquer as to border them), and High Elves will mostly shield you form Goblins. But you probably just meet to watch the world and see what's best.

[@bitingevil]

Thank you for making divide and conquer. I have a question about the script, what happens if you don’t have a treaty with the dwarves and the 2nd invasion occurs but you haven’t retaken the 2 settlements?

[@Grunk111]

It's Gondor! Edit, Yea I was right.

[@fnx947]

Yeaaaaaaaah thank you for makin' ered eluin

[@kardifall623]

i reaad some things in the patch notes about some artifacts quest where you have to recover the shards of narsil and the dragon helm of dor lomin as well as an artifact from rohan. does that script still exist?

[@andreumuntaner5600]

Yes but Galu forgot to mention it. It only works if you accept the rings

[@fourthknower9831]

It might be helpful to put which units are locked behind scripts/choices in their unit descriptions. That way people know how to get them and so that you don't get confused which units are which in faction overviews.

[@Vampirewolfking]

Does this script play with AI Ered Luin if the AI accepts the rings? Will I as Gondor for example suddenly get a message "Thorin's halls lost" and Erebor owns the province?

[@princeofhyrule2205]

Random question: does taking a dwarven mine with any other faction give the same bonus income as the dwarves get? Or does it nerf it for other nations?

No. Everyone else's mines are worse, even if captured.

[@ClamMan1989]

This campaign was easy peasy since I did in fact ally Angmar. They sorted out most of the orcs for me, and I had plenty of time to plan how I would betray them. Took most of their land in a couple of turns.

[@ClamMan1989]

And elves are not immune to grapeshot: use lots of catapults on the toughest targets.

[@maykel94]

Tumunzahar Nobles simply doesn't fit to dwarves as 2h swordman.

[@rogueshadow4960]

Cool vid mate, is it an idea that erebor units will b changed to the hobbit units because the iron hills units in the batlle of the five armies were really cool

[@BOXHEADBLADEFACE]

Great job so far. Weird modding question: if i just copy and past some files from DAC into original Med 2, Can I replace lets say scotland with isengard and play as isengard in Med 2 and just take over medieval europe or no? or is it possible but complicated? I know this maybe a strange question but I am legitimately wondering because I have always wanted to play as LOTR invasion army into Medieval europe.

[@TheCoweringComa]

Dan Sem It’s possible but a lot of work since you would need to import a lot of models, u.i, some animations, and audio.

[@BOXHEADBLADEFACE]

@@TheCoweringComa so delteing scotland and putting in isendgard and renmaing to scotloand would not work?

[@TheCoweringComa]

Dan Sem not necessary deleting Scotland as you could just replace Scotland as Isengard in the files. It’s definitely possible. Just will be quite a bit of work to add stuff like unit voices and accents to make the Uruk-hai sound like Uruks. And some archers may need special animations like the bowstring animation since I believe it’s not in vanilla medieval 2.

[@BloodhawkProductions]

this is SUCH an awesome script! It reminded me so much of playing the original rome total war and going to war with the other roman factions in the very end game... if you mod the other dwarves to be OP then the war of dwarves on dwarves is FANTASTIC! good job galu! well done!

[@VinnieWijnen]

I might have missed it in the video, but if the high elves claim Thorin's Halls & Fahamgathol and you as a player are unable to reclaim it before the turn that erebor & KD are suppose to attack you. will the attacks happen at a later turn or not at all?

They don't happen if you don't have the cities but the armies do spawn near those cities but they will likely just try and walk them back to their homelands.

[@VinnieWijnen]

@ okay, thanks for the info ;-)

[@andrewplck]

Dude, how can I find that hotfix?

[@hansgerman3437]

Go into the discord. It's in the dac general channel in the pinned messages

[@andrewplck]

@@hansgerman3437 nope, there are 4 pinned messages, not one is the fix. I found it finally, #patches on the left, there are links to all the files.

It is literally the first pinned message in the #dac_general chat channel. There isnt a #patches channel so I have no idea what you have downloaded.

[@andrewplck]

@ It was called DaC V4 Hotfix. Sorry, I am completly unskilled in Discord, so I kinda clicked whatever until I found what I was looking for. The savegame works fine after hotfixing.

[@acidboyssuper3446]

Thank you and the team for dac i followed you from the first versions i have one question how the corruption and others work the only thing i know is that it has to do with rebels .i would appreciate the help .

[@timhansen6951]

What if you say no get the Elven Units and then betray the Elves do you keep the Units (boats mariners) or are they taken away? No training and/Or Disband of already trained units?

[@Sharky_Splitz]

My favorite dwarf faction!

[@nateflynn7378]

I’m playing erebor post barracks event right now and I get hammers of gundabad as rewards for missions it’s great I have like 4 now

[@franekzaj4030]

But how you can defeat high elves, when they're sitting also in Imladris/Rivendell?

[@sm7083]

As you mentioned EL are Pike and Crossbow focussed, what about Erebor and Khazad Dum? I can see their roster in game obviously. But I can't clearly tell.

[@feelingpine9123]

Erebor offensive. KD defensive.

[@planetkc]

Shouldn't Dwarves have a higher Charge Attack? They are small.

[@samuelstewart7948]

Can you get the rings if you kill the general that has them or is it different

[@raggedyandy2327]

Hi Arachir. Please would you be able to tell me the name of the Adrian von Ziegler track that is at the start of these faction overviews please? Since hearing it on the Anduin overview the other week, i have skimmed through his discography to find it and have failed miserably. Thanks.

Vindsvept - Spirit Bond.

[@raggedyandy2327]

@ Many Thanks :)

[@eveblack7304]

Why is Aulë reffered to as Aulë in the mod rather than Mahal as he would be reffered to by the dwarves?

Because I prefer Aulë.

[@carsonjohnson5648]

Does anyone know how I can get this mod on my Mac? I have medieval 11 total war through the App Store.

[@MadtankerHD]

i only had thorins halls attacked not fahamgathol? so it was easy to repel the elves.

[@Lajosen]

Should do a video about the Dunedain next

[@HungryHippo7]

Does the script apply to the AI?

[@Noodle5858]

In Gondor we trust to stem the tide of boredom through these tough times of quarantine. Next faction overview is something to look forward to.

[@darkpenguin7277]

loving the script! currently finishing off the high elves and about to stab angmar in the back and claim eriador. however my spy is stuck with narsil and eorls horn, i brought them back to thorins halls along with the item on the island, but these two are still with the spy, and my faction leader has 2 un used anciliaries and so does the faction heir, are they emant to be taken somewhere else? thank you!

[@TheHusseinjoker]

Hi how do you give the other rings to your generals? Idk how to do this and google searches have come up with nothing except cheats.

[@Vampirewolfking]

Put the generals into the same army. Click the ring and drag it to the general you want to give it to. Each general can only have 7 ancillaries, so you might need to first remove one using the same method as above.

[@lye1035]

Northern Dunedain next please! :DD

[@yaketysaks]

Yes please: my favourite faction so far that I'm also having quite a bit of trouble with! Endless Angmar and Goblin spam combined with terrible economy and long distances between towns is a tough time

[@koscoco8370]

Their troops are op tho!

[@yaketysaks]

Javier Estrada Yes very OP, the battles are a breeze. The campaign side is a different story: easy enough to defend territory, but hard to advance into enemy territory while maintaining garrisons, public order, ensuring proper defence, etc, since units are expensive + very slow to train

[@lye1035]

I’m actually having a blast on them, turn 12 I restarted so I could add +2k coinspurse to angmar Mordor Moria and dunland. But I have been playing this game since first release haha

[@lye1035]

+2k kingspurse i think

[@BenSinclair04]

What background music do you use.I love it.

[@koscoco8370]

Northern dunedain after gondor plz!

[@g0lgrim1]

Firebeard Warriors in praxis are just Warhammer Slayers i think. XD

[@g0lgrim1]

Sooo... you mentioned bugs in DaC V4... is one of them that Free Upkeep Garison Slots from Buildings don't work correct? I mean... in my Dunedain Game at the moment i obviously build those buildings... and Units with free Upkeep from this buildings should be colored in a slightly darker tone... a blue... and have a text hint if you have the mouse on it. In some places this is working... in other places where i should have two or three free upkeep units it dont's seemes to work.

Upkeep all works properly. You need to be able to train the troops to get the free upkeep.

[@g0lgrim1]

@ Yeah... thank you. Remembered you said support is more given on discord and someone gave me the same answer... So.. should build the Dunedain Camp everywhere even if i can't recruit before i have enough culture there... :D Thank you for the answer. :3

[@stoyanb.1668]

I cant train merchant cav in 4.5 even if im allied to bree.

[@guts294-v2h]

anyone know where i can get moives scenes when i travel to iconic locations /mod

[@50ULL355]

Those were removed since v3? I don't think there's a submod for them anymore/yet

[@baconcommando2454]

Removed to cut down the size of the mod

[@guts294-v2h]

@@50ULL355 :(

[@calumdique6205]

I love the script but I have an issue. You specify that each faction has a particular specialty. EREDs being pikes and crossbows. However anytime I set up phalanx and pike walls the enemy just walk right through and I don’t mean fight, I mean they literally walk through my men like ghosts. Is this a bug?

It is behaviour we see frequently. Sadly there is nothing we can do. It is a problem with the engine.

[@94jetsfan]

Hey galu I was under the assumption that the team decided to put the scripts for each faction in the green books, however I haven't seen them. Is this a bug or were they just omitted?

We didn't get round to it. A few factions do have them but most don't.

[@tamerofhorses2200]

This video doesn't seem to mention the Buzra-Dum script, what happened to that?

It was developed after this video.

[@Neodreth]

What's the Buzra-dum script? I have taken the settlement in my first 30 turns and now i am close to 100 turns and no script has appeared.

[@FernandoNagib]

Good job

[@FairFaceDann]

"Ered Luin are a dedicated pikeman and crossbow faction" faction contains no elite pikeman nor crossbows.

[@petesperandio]

I think Galu meant that rather than having the best pikes, you rely on your pikes more than KD or Erebor, which you do. Those late-game uber pikes that KD gets, which are admittedly far better than any pikes Ered Luin fields, definitely won't be your workhorse throughout the game; the two Ered Luin pike units probably will. Likewise, they rely on crossbows more than anybody else because they don't have any other choice, and they have the best crossbows to boot.

[@billydeewilliams8909]

Broadbeam Marksmen ring a bell?

[@feelingpine9123]

Broadbeam Marksmen are absolutely elite. Easily the best crossbows in the game. And as for pikemen... well would you rather have one unit of First Legion or 5 units of Longbeard Phalanx. Making armies of 40-50% pikes is pretty common as Ered Luin, Khazad-Dum not so much.

[@andreumuntaner5600]

Pikes are very OP in this game. You don't need elite pikemen to make huge amounts of damage in fact the longbeard phalanx are among the best pikemen in the game. And the broabdeam marksmen are, without a doubt, an elite unit.

[@FairFaceDann]

I'm not convinced, love the broadbeams but they fire too slow and too short range to go toe to toe with any ranger unit, might get two volleys before they're engaged by melee then they melt, way too slow to reposition. If their bolts pierced enemies that might swing the balance

[@vladsimizeanu1186]

I have quite a problem. I cannot build the 3rd tier barracks building as the dwarves. Is it a bug?

[@astilla9]

Did your barracks event kick in?

[@andreumuntaner5600]

How large is the settelment? I know that the dwarves only get the first tier of barracks before the barracks event. If you already have the 2nd that means the BE already took place so it must be the settelment

[@vladsimizeanu1186]

astilla9 what event? I am new to the mod so I don t really know

[@vladsimizeanu1186]

Andreu Muntaner i just made it to large city but i wanted to know about khazad dum, it is a huge city yet i only have the first tier barrack

[@astilla9]

In every game first cca 60 turns (i think) you cannot build advanced military infrastructure or recruit elite units, thats called Barracks event (there is message at the begining of each campaing that informs about this)

[@jellyhd4178]

I kinda miss the bronze guard pike/halberds :/

[@thebasedcrusader7687]

I never clicked on a notification faster. Also first!

[@trollwayy5981]

You cant be first If I was first ;)

[@aintnoslice3422]

shut the fuck up you basic bitch