MASTER Temple of the Spider COMPLETE on WIZARD after BUFFS! (commentary) - Neverwinter Preview

The Wizard seems to be doing very well in the upcoming rework of the Temple of the Spider! Here I go through my run, with commentary, on how I play my Wizard and my experience compared to completing it on my Rogue!
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[@gabrielvillanueva6187]

Been playing wiz for about 2 years. Never complained about being behind all other dps classes. But this is so sweet. Thanks again for neverwinter content Aragon.

[@Nicomancer001]

OMG I'm so excited for mod 24 as a wizard main. I joined the game as a wiz even if all sources that I've seen then see us as the worst DPS class, but I still chose it because I love magic and CC. I always had to work twice as hard as the other DPS just so I could at least do comparable damage. Glad to see I could chill for a while lmao.

[@Xelliz]

Wizard has always been my favorite character, but after the second wave of updates was released, I immediately expected that the Wizard would get nerfed shortly after going live. I hope not, but that second round seems like they are over doing it. Feels like typical Cryptic not really having a good handle on what to do in regards to "balancing."

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

They have said they'd rather over do the buffs and then tone them down a bit, rather than just tweak slightly upwards all the time. Or was it over-nerf and then tweak upwards? I forget... 🙄 This new guy is doing a major rework of everything that didn't work properly. I also heard that certain people in the Player/Dev feedback group (I forget what it's called) were identifying bugs on Preview and keeping them to themselves and exploiting them on Live. It does seem odd that the Wizard was savagely nerfed several times, and then people like Sharpedge stopped playing. Let's hope this will be a better state for the Wizard. But we all know Cryptic. They might release a hugely overpowered Wizard and then use a sledgehammer to "tweak" it down again, when what is needed is a surgical scalpel with laser precision. 🤣 {:o:O:}

[@rommac1907]

Great infos! :) Time to dust of my old CW then :P

[@ASMRwithBritty]

Can you do a warlock build?? My stats are endgame but my dmg is struggle bus 😢

[@tomw8329]

Nice! Look forward to your Wizard ST and AOE build vids! :)

[@Melody_See]

I can't wait for this to hit the live server. Now I got to brush up and get my enchants to the mythic as I haven't had much time to play this year.

[@Oni-Ryu8]

Tough shit only the rogues will bitch and moan about time wizard was fixed

[@Aragon-]

xD

[@carladiaz7158]

As a main rogue i'm happy about this cause it will be a lot less of idiots tryhard thrashtalkers playing rogues and instead using the wizard, because the rogue has a bad image for that kind of persons. The only problem i see is if the devs in a couple of months after ppl spend a lot of resources on wiz build choose to nerf it.

[@riaventer8469]

I think the wizard has so much potential I love mine. They nerved her to much the last time so I stopped playing her and I can't say I'll put my pally away for her but they are a lot of fun. Hope you enjoy playing her.😊

[@tjolsonmcse]

On my wizard, I chose the arms that gave a bonus being farther then 25' away. As you stated here, I like to be as far away as possible. 80' ranges on most encounters and at wills. distance is my friend.

[@EreaserNL]

Is there a good way to gauge the range? On Console we can't see all our buffs at once, so it's hard to see if you're far enough away

[@tjolsonmcse]

@@EreaserNL I am on console too, so I have to estimate the distance. For the dragons, I go to where I can't cast my encounter powers and then step forward until I can. But honestly, I just have to estimate.

[@EugeeFGII]

Is there a reason you're using Scorching Burst that I'm missing? Even with only the third attack doing AOE, chilling cloud is still better AOE damage than Scorching Burst. Granted on single target where Freeze doesn't do anything I suppose it doesn't really matter what's in the second slot--but you could run MM to quickly hit 5 arcane stacks before going into your regular rotation (making Entangling Force better). Kudos to you for running Ray of Enfeeblement, you would get higher personal DPS with Fireball in mastery, or Icy Rays in mastery + Entangling Force (which is when you want to use MM to hit 5 arcane quickly). Reminder that if the other DPS aren't magic/ranged damage, RoE isn't actually great. Also with 2 wizards here, only one of you really needs to run RoE as it won't stack. Hopefully they were running Arcanist with Arcane Conduit instead. Anyway, talk of nerfing already is so fucking typical of the community--wizard gets nerfed for 6 mods and the first time they start doing *competitive* damage (not dominating) cries for nerf return.

[@Aragon-]

As I've said, I'm still learning, so I don't really know what I was doing. With Scorching Burst I was just seeing if it was in anyway effective. And yes, your probably right about using Magic Missile in the 2nd slot for quicker Arcane stacks. In my testing, running Ray on Tab is more dps than Fireball, since you buff all your damage by 10%, including Daily and Tunnel Vision, which accounts to a lot of damage. But thanks for the feedback, it is all very welcome as I am still learning and have a lot still to learn. Cheers.

[@EugeeFGII]

@@Aragon- I actually forgot about Daily/Artifact with RoE--that would probably edge out the other options in ideal circumstances. And I'm just offering input, I think it's great seeing the changes in action. There are places where scorching burst is quite good--killing boulders in Bore Worm, LOMM for example (super fast activation and AE). Also there's a joke on wizard discords that every wizard CLAIMS to run RoE but in reality none of us do because we don't want to make party DPS look even better.

[@morphykaru]

I have the exact same sentiments with respect to the hate always shown to Wizards. I've played wizard since beta and it wasn't long after release that classes such as Rogues complained so loudly about wizard being OP that the nerfs began. After multiple nerfs wizard became known as the worst dps class. They just nerfed us into the dirt. Now they finally show us some love and already the calls for nerfing us are being raised. Even before any of us have had a chance to play with the new updates on the live server. I suspect we won't see any of this go live.

[@cybersk4452]

Hello Aragon, i have the paranoid delusion on my wizard, i hope its powers will be buffed too, what do you think about that ?

[@Aragon-]

Will need to check

[@cybersk4452]

@@Aragon- i got my answer very quickly from your video today, tyvm :)

[@warrenstephens576]

Funny, all the rogues coming over to us wizards. Laughing at us the whole time we were bad.

[@magicrug1278]

Wizards were horribly balanced for years idk why ur surprised ppl didn't play them till now

[@kypcole]

Be careful who you call ugly in middle school, as the joke goes.

[@warrenstephens576]

Ive been a top dps for years with my wizard. Didnt need now to be there. I dont band wagon

[@fredrauch418]

💯

[@thekids_callmeboss6577]

I know wizzards on ps that beat top rogues. I'm sorry to say but many people who main a wizzard don't know how to play or lets say "time" their skills correctly when playing in a group with a rogue. You have to know other classes strengths to match their dps or outplay them. I main a rogue and the BoA was proccing alot. I'm glad they fixed bia it as I don't wanna be top dps due to a bug but I prefer playing on equal ground.

[@user-kv1ih9lf5e]

Glad a new class finally has their time to shine, it was nothing but barbarians for a long time then nothing but rogues and now it'll probably be all wizards. Hopefully they go through each class and tweak them so they're slightly better than the best class for a while then work on another. I know eventually that'll lead to massive power creep but I'm sure they'd be more than happy to drop a nerf hammer at some point and reset the cycle.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Talking of Power Creep, a boss character in Mod 3 had a Gear Score of 15 or 16,000. Now, it's more like 80,000. I have an old Cleric on preview who was about 16k, from the days when I used to do PvP. He has a ton of what used to be top level, rank 60 rings and things in the bank, and they have an item level of 342 and are now for a rank 15 character. I was saving them for my Alts and their companions when they reached level 60 from Invoking, but Mod 6 made them worthless overnight. {:o:O:}

[@user-kv1ih9lf5e]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 yeah power creep is an issue with almost every mmo, players want new stuff or things get stagnant and with new stuff comes new challenges and new challenges require more power. Imo the devs have been doing a decent job at keeping everything relatively balanced lately or trying to balancing things better.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@user-kv1ih9lf5e *_"players want new stuff or things get stagnant"_* Yes, Neverwinter was my first MMO. I tried D&D Online and ESO, but I did not enjoy them as much. It seems odd to me that there always has to be some new, better, hard to get items to "keep people playing". In other, single player, offline games (like Skyrim, for example), there was content, story line and FUN. And we could craft items far more powerful than anything that would drop in-game. And some other MMOs have "horizontal progression", whatever that is, but it sounds like story line, content and fun to me. In Mod 3 when I had eight characters (this was before Warlock and Paladin), I could do the dailies for the original New Sharandar, Dread Ring, Icewind Dale and dungeon queues from Rhix on most of them every day. There were only three mods! That's just not possible now I have 36. I could not even go round all the zones collecting all the quests every day now. And it can take a ludicrously long time for RADQ and RTQ to pop, even for my Cleric Healer, so I am trying to skill up my original Fighter Iron Vanguard Tank. He was my fourth character. But I agree with you that some of the classes really needed a bug fix session and some serious tweaks. {:o:O:}

[@l0g1cb0mb]

@Aragon, Give the Claric a go, and take the Arbiter path, and tell us what you think of the role with servivability between them and the Wizard for the purpose of DPS\\crowd-control. I make mention of it, because of the point of the Mage being brought to par, but that giving it a sense of being OP, but when you compare it to the Healer class, and it's DPS paragon path that's better at clearing streets than the Wizards that is only able to laydown an area effect that has a DoT that that can do the deed with some additional help wtih any other spell combo, but each of the at-wills hit harder, and amp the divinity spells that hit harder than any spells the Warzard has for damage (both single target and AoE) and heal the caster half the time especally when they need to channel. And to add insult to injury, their AP gens on the damage delt and healed, so Storm Pillar was likely given as the compromize from the original crew, but that's just my guess, but seems logical. But the Justicar Arbitar doesn't play around when it comes to the liquidation of foes in the name of the Light!, you feel me, and will give any Mage a good run for they're money in whole sale slaugher with survivability on top of a more limited palette of usable "tools" on the tray if you will, given that that the claric has a dedicated chennelinig buttonm and if they want to be havle to mass heal when their flask is on cooldown, then they need their other spell. But with a potent companiton and staminia control, you may learn to kite like a Rogue and be in it to win it! It's really quite different managing Divinity but fun! Not sure if the Devout path is as fun, or if thats more strict and strategic or more party bound due to its role. Anyway, the point of the comparison, is it being my first experience with the Claric class, I was surprised by how potent it was, and how it nearly seemed to outclass the present Wizard in its role. I mean, the Wizard is my main, I know it's animations and everything, and the retcons, they've done to the spells are sort of painfull, as they've changed so much of what they many used to do, removing the crowd-control element, but leaving the animations in place. So for example if you slot the Entangling Force spell in the Spell Mastery slot, the spell would have been boosted to not only force choke the target, and hold them longer based on the number of Arcane stacks, but would grab those nearby and gather them up. This allowed for a follow up with Avalanche of Chaos and a push that would basically blast them away like bowling pins, it was hella fun! ^_^ It was crowd control, it was removed, the one spell lossing the gathering effect, but not the animation if you put the spell in the SM slot, and the other spell being first toned down, then replaced altogether, and it was useful for 3 reasons, crowd control, and Arcane stack generation, and as a timed mine, ah, the good ol' days... . Anyway, I know how much time you must put in for your reviews and all and hate to ask for this additional bit of insight given how regularly you post, but I think you will find it enlightening and worth your time. But I understand if you don't have time to fit it in. Thanks for potentially considering it. Cheers! But I ain't one to gossip,,, ,

[@Aragon-]

Check my latests gameplay video. I was with a Cleric Dps, a good one at that, and I do a good bit more damage in AoE, you can see that when we fight the adds between the first and second boss

[@l0g1cb0mb]

@@Aragon- Well, the difference isn't exactly the same as you seeing how it plays when someone else plays the part as first hand for what I was wanting you to get out of it (your comment toward the end of the video on expericne with other classes), but no worries. ^_^

[@brunorbattlehammer5122]

It’s about time rouges get knocked off the top

[@Aragon-]

Rip xD

[@kypcole]

"I favor the rogue." We noticed. :p

[@tjolsonmcse]

Watching this I'm freaking out every time he gets too close to the fray. It's all fun.

[@Haruthegoodlookingboy12]

Thaurmatuge is really hard to master the feats is weird I don't know what I'm gonna choose fire or ice .

[@EugeeFGII]

The top row primarily improves AOE builds, the bottom row improves single target/bosses.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Why do you use Eclipsed Lion? And can the Cleric remove debuffs with _Cleansing Touch?_ {:o:O:}

[@Aragon-]

I was using Golden Touch from the Warhorse

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@Aragon- Oh, OK, I saw a black hemisphere like the Eclipsed Lion. Maybe someone else was using it? So the debuffs cannot be _Cleansed?_. I ask as the tank asked me to use it this morning in LoMM, and I never had to before. But the final Boss One Shot most of use through Astral Shield and Hallowed Ground, so we had to repeat and I used Cleanse, instead of Bastion and then changing to Astral Shield. I did not even have the AP for Hallowed Ground, but we survived as we did not have the 2 stacks on us from electric charge or something. Cheers! {:o:O:}

[@rich7996]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 It depends on the debuff, some are cleansable others not. In the case of LoMM, when players collide from the electric charges they get a stackable debuff that reduces their dmg and dmg resistance. The healer can cleanse this debuff during the pillar phase, so you cleanse the players with the debuff as many times as needed to remove the debuff. You can also completely avoid this mechanic by not having anyone collide from the electric charges.

[@mateuszguzek8267]

Are you changing your Rouge to a Wizard?

[@Aragon-]

I will still play my Rogue, if that's what your asking xD

[@7Kris7]

How about arcanist path? It’s same good?

[@Aragon-]

It's hard to play Arcanist in ST

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@Aragon- I don't get that. I thought Thaumaturge was AoE & Control and Arcanist was Single Target damage? {:o:O:}

[@jmdurane]

@@Aragon- 🤔Why? Cause the magnitudes, cooldowns ? In live server currently the arcarnist is the easiest way for ST

[@Aragon-]

@@jmdurane well I can't get the Arcanist to deal as much damage as the Thaum on preview

[@rondavenport3423]

People are going to complain not matter what

[@Aragon-]

yeah xD

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

I hear the cry of _"Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!"_ from Rogues and Barbarians all across The Realms. 🤣 Oh, *FIRST!* {:o:O:}

[@Aragon-]

Ahahaha xD

[@manukumarks]

Barbarians need buff 😢

[@riveraharper8166]

Don't forget warlocks.

[@EreaserNL]

Gonna be nice that we don't have to use ray of frost anymore. I really started to dislike using it. Really can't wait to experience the changes on live and I hope they don't nerf it too much if they do decide to nerf wizards after the buffs.

[@DeadDreadLock]

Stop the lying! There isn’t one character in the game that is OP it’s just that all of them are underwhelming. I guess you forgot about all the nerves throughout the years and now they’re trying to act like they’re improving The game, and its characters because of less attention. When in fact, the reason why the game is in the situation, it is in is because it’s gone through hands that didn’t care about its community. So if the wizard is overpowered like you want to state, then they need to bring all the other characters up to par with the wizard.

[@Aragon-]

I'm not lying, and I do think the Wizard is overpowered. I've played the wizard for like 3 days (6 hours) and I already can-do more damage than on my rogue which I spent 38 days on total time

[@DeadDreadLock]

@@Aragon- the reason why I say that you are lying is because you do not have the same energy towards the rest of the characters that are lacking because of being nerfed, and, or turned down for various reasons by cryptic. Your spectrum is based upon what you play for four hours on one character or another. I’m speaking about all of them in total as to where they should be now, because if everything was on the up and up when it comes to the characters, there would be no such thing as buffing, corrective, fixing, and etc.

[@fresh7s]

Not bad for a rogue main 🍻lol

[@Aragon-]

my thoughts too :D

[@chrissiethomas1297]

Wait, arc for aoe and Thurma for st ....... I really thought it would be the other way lol. I'm really looking forward to testing and trying for myself xx

[@lazarond]

I can't say I didn't tell ya so.. also it's hilarious seeing these comments of people saying it's justified oberbuffing them because they have been bad while rogues were good when I have ran with wizards pre band of air nerf that kept up with rogues.. I think people need just get better before they assume stuff is bad. Then the devs get a false sense of what should and shouldn't be nerfed...

[@nerfmy12boa47]

Pure human stupidity. I main a C.W and cleric since day 1. Arbiter and wizard weren't bad even taking hc vos as example. Time to see scrubs to switch to wizard because they get mislead and they don't know better than copy and paste

[@bradgallup4111]

Preach it bro. People want to complain of over/underpowered classes. How many of those individuals have tested and actually know how to play their class. Being an MMO, there will always be classes that preform better. I’ve seen all classes excel with the right person driving, so I think they can all compete. Unless you play with Laz, he beats everyone :)

[@althegamer6606]

when is cryptic gonna redo pvp.......the grindgets too much sometimes

[@Aragon-]

probably never since the playerbase interested in PvP is too small

[@riveraharper8166]

@@Aragon- sad

[@briarios666]

Tbh I feel wizards should be power houses and die with ease that's the hole point in wizard powerful but glass Cannons I truly hope they keep wizards powerful and don't need them

[@Aragon-]

Wizards are one of the best to survive against one shots, bellow the Fighter

[@briarios666]

@@Aragon- awwww I see well in that case I'd understand a nerf on how powerful they're or make wizards less likely to survive a hit

[@riveraharper8166]

Noice!

[@Tertulion1]

CW overpowered now xD

[@Whatever_it_is-n7m]

Lets see how well the rogues will hendle of being kicked from all the content for years 😁 But knowing cryptic devs and their huge love for rogues and barbarians i d say they will nerf wizard back again in 2 months 😁

[@francescosouza]

Barbs? Lol

[@iltoncherete8574]

better change the video title to "nerf CW pls" there's a lot more content about CW's crying than about DG's mechanics

[@Aragon-]

lol xD

[@pudelinocacalat2951]

All wizards out of closet