How Much You LOSE w/ NEW Enchant Change? Total COST to Upgrade to MYTHIC! - Neverwinter M22 Preview

[@miguelernestomancillasotel9660]

i think this is it for me, last time they said there would be no mayor overhauls coming for a while... what's even the point of playing this game when every year we get sent back to square 1? :/

[@leviwilson9694]

Honestly there gonna kill the game, I'm out when this happens

[@michelleneabrey4006]

@@leviwilson9694 I started playing in Feb 2021, and fell in love hard with this game. But even though I am new (came just after Mod 20 came into power), I am out after this. Too many changes in too short a period of time. I have worked hard on my main character, and still am only 44k IL, and that's even with buying VIP and opening boxes. I finished all the adventures, and most of the campaigns. I was just starting to upgrade my enchantments to start to maybe really being able to compete. This is going to set me back and I'm not into that. I think Cryptic is going to kill this game. If I was WotC, I would pull their contract before they damage the D&D brand any further.

[@IamsTokiWartooth]

@@michelleneabrey4006 you are brilliant, it took me 8 years to learn what you found out in 10 months; thank you

[@antmanTR]

So here's my issue with nerfing r8/9. I use them on the 15 alts I have. At the very least give each toon r2 choice packs to compensate. Furthermore, the weapon/armor enchants you get from campaigns and even Zen Market were 8s or 9s. All of it now junked. So how do you compensate the people that paid real money for flower barkshield and butterfly bilethorn and holy vorpal? Take that argument back to noworries please.

[@dragonlord4801]

they dont care, this change is to milk money from players just like the combat rework was

[@colemcmullen3904]

Unfortunately they'll never compensate anyone for changes they make. It's why I never bother to buy anything from them. As long as people continue to pay out they'll continue with this business model.

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

@@colemcmullen3904 they did give AD back for bondings, maybe there's a chance they'll give something at least for the rest and 9s since that's what most of the players have

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

That's the point, get people to buy stuff then make it obsolete or worthless so they buy more to catch back up. Until the community STOPS BUYING ZEN craptic will always keep doing this.

[@CBourn48223]

@@kittywampusdrums4963 They made an entire mod just for new players...they don't give a damn about us. They're milking the game for every cent they can get. You wont be buying power you'll only be renting it for a couple months.

[@super_burstmode3652]

Ok even though You don't need to Buy anything to upgrade stuff, lets face it people still gonna use money to just upgrade everything. At this Point cryptic is just using predatory tactics to squeeze all the money they can. This seems like a very crappy move on their part. Not gonna lie thats very shady business practice and people who play this game should ask for their time and money to be respected instead of reworked.

[@Draidex920]

That’s true

[@eddiewang4465]

Wait, then what are you gonna get instead of that rank 8 weapon enchantment choice pack when you're completing the main story quests?

[@brass_hearses]

nothing as of yet, currently the only advice the devs give people asking the same question is to either upgrade them while it's still possible or just turn them into RP, since they deem r8s and 9s as 'useless' anyway. a lot of people complain about it though, so there is a chance for a better solution, albeit a very slim one since they don't really care for player feedback on preview

[@CL-ty6wp]

exactly. Already felt like a waste of time.

[@jasoncannon3492]

*sigh* f*&king Cryptic. Enough with the reworks already, just bring on the new content!

[@jonnyb70]

see his other video. there's a new zone.

[@eneateneggi5274]

Mmo life is crazy.. And the fact we keep going with it is even more

[@AshenKnight640]

I totally agree!

[@angryalientv4964]

You can always quit

[@billgust4580]

Random variable rewards. They know that any remaining end game players are addicts and they are taking full advantage of that fact. If they were doctors, they would be the kind pushing oxys lol

[@shekelmeister]

I actively play 2 toons so I need 64 coal wards to max out again... Oh Wow thanks Craptic. Really making me wanting to quit the game here. Even spending Zen will cost you 200 USD per toon just for the wards (which I won't do.)

[@colemcmullen3904]

Overall, you're going to need fewer stones for your other loadout builds, and there will be less need to reject some gear because it doesn't offer the right enchantment slots. I quit trying to be BiS in this game a long time ago and it's fine. They'll keep making these kinds of changes until people stop opening their wallets. One thing I find interesting is since we can just spend AD to buy the stones it does set a price standard for how much people should be charging on the AH for them. If I can buy a new legendary combat stone for 4.8 million AD and someone on the AH wants to sell one for more than that, they're not going to have much luck.

[@fauckcryptic9467]

EVEN LESS CHOICES THAN BEFORE! LESSSSSSSSSS!

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

@@fauckcryptic9467 less choiche, but every dps build asked you to get the same enchants

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 wrong

[@draconicpeasantsheep]

@@xX_N_E_O_Xx no he isn't, i looked at many guides and all had pretty much the same enchants. any difference came from players personal choice and acqusition chance

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

@@draconicpeasantsheep but you don't have to follow them, it's the build most people use, but you could manage your stats with any enchantments.

[@elthorik3785]

Thanks for the video Aragon. I played this game every day since launch until July/August 2021. I doubt that I will ever play Neverwinter again. I love the game and supported it up until the very end. This change cannot be positive for the state of the game. It certainly does nothing to send me a message that the game will be good again. Too many changes that negatively impacted my enjoyment.

[@Whit3hat]

What you mean, we getting tons of IL, good change is good keeps things alive, this good. Just imagine your a new player after mod 22 drops. I understand where your coming from, for some time I just logged on to claim free stuff, but I got over myself and found solutions and I missed playing NW great and will get better as € rolls in

[@IamsTokiWartooth]

@@Whit3hat I have played from beta; they have never reinvested into the game

[@markknape4343]

Hmmm, I don't think I have any more blood left, maybe a drip or two, but not enough to pay for another rework.

[@Aragon-]

xD they are just allowing you to upgrade further. It's like rank 16 echants. You don't need to get them to complete all the content we have, but maybe for the new trial

[@Vile-Flesh]

My brain cannot handle another rework. I'm still mad about the combat rework from last year. I started playing Escape From Tarkov again. I'm sick of Neverwinter devs kicking me in the balls over and over.

[@yamilrivera3635]

But cant get my raiting cap like before and get 33 coal Ward and my % is not goin to get 90%

[@Matt-zs6qx]

They drove away so many players during the last rework, now not even a year later another complete rework. Will the Devs only be satisfied once they have driven away the majority of the player base? I honestly don't think I have it in me to rebuild my toons again, I get on to unwind and have fun after a long work day and just want to relax, play and not feel like I left one job to come home and login to another job. I wonder if they do panel discussions or surveys with the player base for input before they just decide to do what they do.

[@rannxerox3970]

Same for me, I am a casual player. If I am "working" in a game, then its now work and not a game.

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

This has been said over and over, since mod 14 ban wave, they don't like veteran players who just the game to get anything free, so they're doing these shady tactics to drive them away, unlit there's only the timmy 's who' ll spend money on the game for shiny and flashy items every time put in zen store lol

[@billyk1516]

Not sure there was a need for yet another complete overhaul but great job helping us all understand some of the changes mate

[@maxbowen9830]

I hope they change to allow you to turn in rank 7-9 armor/weapon enchantments.

[@angryalientv4964]

Those are poop

[@maxbowen9830]

Yes, that is why they are rank 7-9, but a lot of people still use them and now they're going to be useless, some of those rank 9 armor and weapon enchantments are still pretty expensive. Me personally, I have a lot of 8's that are bound and would like to have some use for them other than refinement.

[@dragonlord4801]

they won't

[@legoneverwinter4058]

I agree with this as it makes the reward from doing whispering caverns almost pointless to new players

[@Pussmash]

@@legoneverwinter4058 always has been lmao

[@VtojeC]

Aragon, can you quick respond here for one simple issue? I haven't seen you presenting the visual effects of the "Combat enchantment". Can you tell us if the visible effect of the "Fortified Nature" enchantment (which is changed negation enchantment) remained? Thank you in advance for the answer.

[@divitsingh6521]

No visuals for new Combats, but you can slot in old illusions from old enchants.

[@dazlee3257]

Great guide, regardless of feelings towards another rework. I guess it will be easier to swap gear and weps in and out now, that's the only + I can see.

[@heidevolk_le_gueux]

might be way more intuitive and quick for loadouts changing

[@dazlee3257]

@Brandon Biden Idk if you can read? But I said regardless of feelings on another rework, it's a good guide. No mention of liking what they did.

[@heidevolk_le_gueux]

@Brandon Biden i feel sorry for you if you assume everyone should think like you :/

[@davidpickering9374]

i have 6 rank 15 enchatments and the the rest rank 9 and the weapon reank 8 and armour rank 8 so i will be loosing a lot of item level and stats

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

14:58 What "compensation" in refining points are you talking about? I missed it earlier, where did these come from? {:-:-:}

[@Aragon-]

With this system there is no longer partial refinement point filling of an item. All of the refinement points are needed upfront and it goes directly into a chance to upgrade. Existing items with partial refinement points in them will have the refinement points refunded to the owner on login with these changes. If you are at max refinement points of 50,000,000 then you will need to spend some of that ahead of the update to receive the refunds.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@Aragon- Sorry, I don't get it. You mean you had zillions of enchants and artifacts partially upgraded with RP in them? I think I have only an Epic Collar with RP in them. What do you mean by refining point "compensation"? You seemed to be saying that when you exchanged enchants for Medallions, you were give 16 million RP as a free gift from the Devs. 🧐 Cheers! {:-:-:}

[@Aragon-]

Everything you have that was upgraded with rp, you get back

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@Aragon- ALL of the RP that we ever put into anything, enchants, runes, gear, weapons, Insignia, Collars etc, we get ALL of thst back? At the same rate as we spent them? Not just any excess in something ready to upgrade, but ALL the RP we ever spent on things we still have? WOW! 🤯 That IS good. Including stuff in the bank? I have a feck tonne of stuff in the bank that was not mailed to me on Preview. Only stuff that couldn't go in my filled-up bags were in the mail. {:-:-:}

[@CosmicBlackstar]

anyone have 7 mil ad laying arround? 😂😂

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

Mod 22 will be released around February, you can get 100k ad per day, there are around 70 days left to the end of February (I doubt it's going to get released at the start of the month)

[@CosmicBlackstar]

@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 you still need wards and it will go in price so not only you need 7 million ad for potency with different name i forgot how its called you will also need 32 wards that have 100% chance and prices will go up so in all it will be 40mil ish my guess and thats not an easy task just another craptic money grab

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

@@CosmicBlackstar you had a month, if you only had 2 characters I can understand since you could only have gotten 60 celestial coins to buy 6 packs (11 per pack so technically almost 6) and the chances of finding a coal ward are not that high there; but if you have more toons you could have gotten 1 or 2 motes from there (still not much but better than spending money)

[@QtNFluffyBacon]

So I just jumped into the game and I'm still wrapping my head around the whole thing. Are there tutorials on how to get these new enchantments in the first place if one does not have 15 around? Before the patch I had like 50 pieces of r8 enchantments because they drop on every Tiamat Trial run. But at this point I'm lost on what one even does to progress in gear. It seems like the solution to everything is "farm AD to buy the stuff on the AH"

[@kiyoshifujino4453]

Yep,i m confused too,just started after yeas.Hopefuly i ll understant it if i play my main for a while.Started new toon.

[@juhamustonen7228]

Ok nearly all my and stones are t9 and t8 so i need to have lot of ad to get any New ones or i need to play only one class whitch is booring

[@davecubsrule]

Can you swap medallions between accounts? Have a couple toons

[@divitsingh6521]

Looks like the Dread Ring grind is effectively dead now xD. Thanks for the vid Aragon.

[@alejandrogomez9325]

Might get glyphs of potency in them?

[@alonzom633]

What about the new journals? And Is there a better chest piece in mod22 ribcage is a pain in the ass to farm

[@Smite_Sion]

I noticed that the shirt and pants also have a reinforcement slot, so they can have a reinforcement? Is that also true for the live servers?

[@CaptainRadack]

As always Thanks for your help in understanding the game!!1

[@theOrder-ls5gd]

Aragon - question will we be able to transfer medallions between characters like can for trade bars ect in bank?

[@dmljr917]

@ Aragon, Do you know if they updated any of the campaigns and Adventures that give enchants? Like Adventures Incorporated Heart of Fire enchant? I was wondering if saving them to do later would be worth it or not.

[@skylabby]

Not running shit unil next year... gonna claim my key and that's it...this shit clearly shows they don't care... what we needed was a new game engine and bug fixes and new content.. but this is just a HUGE MONEY GRAB....this just wasnt needed!!!!

[@diddlysquat88]

Its time to stop playing Nerfwinter boys..

[@jonnyb70]

Aragon - is there anything that can be done with the disappearing enchants? sell them, turn them in for AD, anything?

[@Helli0ncat]

Refine, that's it. Sell any Weapon/Armor Enchant you don't intend on upgrading to R10 for the medallions and illusion appearance and refine all other enchants R9 or below 'cause they were already practically dirt cheap if not outright free before this upcoming change and nobody is going to buy them since everyone will be given several million refinement once the changes happen.

[@gabs_salem]

I guess with the bump to ilvl we'll lose a lot of ratings as well

[@kadiracevedo]

How is the prominence working now? That's the other offensive enchantment. At myth it gives 10 magnitude shield for a total of 200 at 20 stacks. Is this shield working as a the barkshield? Because it might be good for healers.

[@dragonlord4801]

It's a joke enchantment and has been since mod 16 sadly.

[@fabianmartinez4]

It's like they cryptic tema all in his power to make players leave the Game and Star in Lost Ark, Nice work king of gondor

[@angryalientv4964]

This gave me an aneurysm

[@fauckcryptic9467]

Rachel Phelps is the new owner of the Cleveland Indians baseball team. However, her plans for the team are rather nefarious. She wants to move the team to Miami for the warmer climate and a new stadium. To justify the move, the team has to lose, and lose badly. So she assembles the worst possible team she can. - from the 1989 move Cryptics Leauge

[@Vimer08]

how much IL increase is upgrading the Rare enchantment given per rank? like rare to epic; epic to leg; leg to mythic

[@Oni-Ryu8]

Cheers mate what are the top right hand spaces for on the enchantment section mate

[@Aragon-]

Overload echants

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

02:34 And the 12 Medallions from the Heart of Fire are bound to character, and we can buy nothing with 12 Medallions. They should let us put them in the Shared Bank, like AD, Trade Bars, Upgrade Tokens, Powder etc. {:-:-:}

[@Pussmash]

No worries! Now you can't exchange them at all!

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@Pussmash LOL! Yes, I heard! {:-:-:}

[@Sven-u8e]

can the medalions be transferred to your other characters ie like in the shared bank?

[@WARRIORUGG]

Hey how are you, what happens to your lower rank enchantments and marks of potency that you may have been saving for refining Thanks

[@Aragon-]

marks of potency can be traded in for 60% of their base value in AD

[@DuskbladeOfDraktharr]

Thx a lot for these videos!

[@AshenKnight640]

When u trade an unbound enchantment, does it become bounded like it was in mod16? If it does, we will lose a lot of AD, when we need to change enchantments to cap min/max out ratings.

[@Aragon-]

nothing gets bound. even if you trade a bound enchant it becomes the medalions which you buy the unbound packs

[@Whit3hat]

Hi Aragon, tell me plz is there still a gold cost for removing enchantments in mod 22 as currently, lol I'm more worried about my gold sales,l

[@Aragon-]

no gold cost to remove them

[@willquinndeb]

frankly I am not happy at all about this... totally awesome you have sooooo much as a player who has struggled through do not have have alll level 15 and my armor that I pd money for is only level 9 which means they are taking my money and throwing it into the air... this upsets me greatly and does not seem like a deal to me... seems like they are taking from me what I have worked so hard for... I am only at 44 thou so yeah this is gonna hurt me soooo bad... right now with my money getting tighter and I am able to put less money into the game they decide to try and squeeze more outta me??? I like the game and was hoping to find a good guild that would help me understand more how to move along faster (doing random on dungeons only get you so far when looking to the masses those who seem to climb have a good guild behind them to help them move up my guild my one toon has is only interested in you if you are ready for endgame... they just leave you there to do things on your own which is damn hard) ... I have another that I have been bringing along and been hoping to get a guild hit with him and he has almost all 9 to 11 so he is really screwed and I am suppose to smile and say "hey excellent so happy they did this" ? Totally horrible really gonna make me think hard about renewing my vip... this is very cruel

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

It is what it is budd, It was expected from to do something like this, for the upgrading almost reached the limit, companion and mount bolsters was added a year ago, then mythic insignias, so the only thing left was the enchantments to fuck up with. It is not the 1st this happens, they always make you spend real money or tons of ad to be maxed out, and after awhile, they come up with a needless rework - that'll probably make the game even more broken - pushing people to spend more and more, just to get back to how they were before the rework or a little bit better. The boost of the item level might not that good, cuz people might find themselves unable to up their stats unless they change or add some tweaks to their build, that's aside from the cost of upgrading those enchantments AGAIN.

[@legoneverwinter4058]

You mention the heart of fire enchantments does this mean the medallion can be passed between characters?

[@jonnyb70]

it's bound to character right this instant. who knows what will happen with mod 22 though.

[@iWontSeeYourReplies]

Does anyone know what’s required to upgrade current weapon and armor enchantments? I would like to get some rank 14s and I’d like to see what’s cheaper but I have no idea what is needed to upgrade each rank

[@Aragon-]

Pretty sire right now, the cheapest way to get a rank 14 weapon or armor enchant is to buy it from the AH, but don't pay more than 4.8 mill

[@Helli0ncat]

I started a reply, but messed up and Aragorn beat me to it. Much cheaper to outright buy them from the AH than upgrade... ...however, event currencies like Hell Pit, Siege, etc. and especially Legacy quests have made getting the MoP's and Enchants needed to upgrade them completely free. It's another time and grind, but I upgraded my Elven Battle from R9 to R13 and my Plaguefire from R13 to R14, only costing a Coal Ward per upgrade that were all freely aquired over that time via invoking.

[@leslieleyba7261]

How is this going to work on the load outs will you have to re buy the ones you.need for your other class? Which is going to cost even more money

[@Aragon-]

If you don't want to bother with switching your enchants to other character, then yes, you'll want more enchants. Exactly like we had with rank 15's except you don't need to spend gold to remove them.

[@zkrings]

Hey Aragon! Thanks for the video. I was overwhelmed with the changes, but this tutorial gives me a little bit of peace of mind. Question, can we trade our weapon/armor enchantments for ADs, like when we did with the Bonding Runestone for 2.4M ADs?

[@Whit3hat]

You trade in old enchantments for medals that you use to get new types, nothing to do with AD

[@karlnewton7934]

Very concise upload once again and easy to understand, unfortunately the cost to an average player can only be measured in Zen/$ so it would be a sticking point in gaining new people to actually play or even retain active players,this wont effect the top 20% who have already driven up the auction house prices in preparation but I dont think the remaining player base after this will keep the doors open for much longer.

[@danieleiengo9211]

The marks of potency will be exchanged aswell or are still usable?

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Why did you go for Cobalt for Delfection Severity, rather than Amethyst for Awareness or Garnet for Defence? Cheers! {:-:-:}

[@ShaDusK]

I personally don't have a problem with being the average player without many mythics or maxed enchantments.

[@qorbane3598]

What does it do to the floral barkskin and floral vorpal?

[@ThePzrLdr]

I'm sick... I just spent 750k AD to buy 40 Marks in the WB this morning...

[@davee5384]

Only about halfway through video but so far I havent heard you mention your main stats. When you switched between the two characters, I am seeing a 3%-5% drop in your main stats. Yes, the increase in item level would change the % but Item level is only a piece of the puzzle. So not only do you have to switch over to the new system. Then you have to spend a great deal of money to upgrade em and then you have to find new ways to adjust and increase your main stats. People are still working on their main stats from the last mod. And now you have to chase the dragon yet again. No thanks. This game has seen the last of my money and time.

[@dustind3960]

Mod22 enchantment changes and removing the ability to run armour and weapon enchancement is a major load of cattle crap.

[@13Eviljoker13]

I don't think they even play their own game, that or they just hate their player base. This is such a money grab because they know newer players won't be even close to having the resources for all these new upgrades while they make the ones we have now worth very little. I'm probably just going to quit playing again, it seems this game is just racing to become pay to win before they lose what player base they have left.

[@roloskywalker_]

can we exchange old marks of potency for the new glyphs?

[@Aragon-]

Not yet

[@GastNdorf]

What about overloads?

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

You can still equip them as usual

[@gaffawebber]

When is this going live?

[@Matt-zs6qx]

So you need 32 Coals per toon to upgrade all enchants, that I already had all fully upgraded?

[@Aragon-]

yes, unless you make one set account wide. And no you do not need to upgrade, thats your choice

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Thanks for the video, as always, but my prediction, my Prophecy if you will, is that the item level will be NO improvement when compared with the RTQ and RADQ scaling in Mod 22. 🤪 {:-:-:}

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

I hope so, people still don't know how to do codg

[@JDubbb727]

I make a big chunk of ad doing Legacy quests to upgrade enchantments then selling them. I just needed to get a few more quests done and I would have been able to upgrade my lightning enchantment to rank 14. It broke my heart to see the drop in the price when I logged in the other day. I had to sell my rank 13 for half the price. This really sucks!!!

[@arkai4084]

Sry i maybe miss this... the Heart of Fire rank14 from acquisition inc Is tradable for medalion? and medalion Is sharable on alts?? Tnx 4 help

[@Aragon-]

Yep, you can trade it for 12 medallions

[@arkai4084]

@@Aragon- tnx sound good. I Hope they rework a Little the trade price because ive like 440 point and i Need 860 for have all slott filled with the best i can trade lol im a lot far away from have 1 toon full of enchantment and thats its bad really bad :)

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@arkai4084 *_"the Heart of Fire rank14 from acquisition inc Is tradable for medalion? and medalion Is sharable on alts?"_* Yes and No. I specifically tested this on Preview. YES, the Heart of Fire is tradable for 12 Medallions. NO, the Medallions are character-bound in the Riches tab, so not shareable with Alts. We should be able to put them in the Shared Bank, like AD, Trade Bars, Companion and Mount Tokens, but atm on Preview we can't. YES, the Choice Packs we buy with Medallions are unbound, and so are the enchants inside them. Unless that changes, I'm telling my Guild to try and collect all the enchants Rank 10+ that are not Character-Bound on one toon with lots of bag space for the Exchange. It would be horrible to not have enough for a Choice Pack Rank 2, or even Rank 1, on multiple Alts. *BUT* we get only get 12 Medallions for Heart of Fire, and we can buy nothing with that. So, ideally, we need to get another 48 on that Alt to get 60 Medallions for a Rank 2 Enchant Choice Pack. Unfortunately, a Rank 13 for 8 Medallions will give us only 20 total, and we can buy nothing with that. So we'd have to also trade two Rank 15 to get another 40, giving us 60 in total. Rank Medallions 15 20 14 12 13 8 12 4 11 2 10 1 This is a terrible exchange rate. I think they should start with rank 7 at 1. Or even two rank 7 for 1, one rank 8 for 1, one rank 9 for 2 and so on. The Exchange Agent on Preview also sells 1 Medallion for 40,000 AD. *DO NOT BUY THOSE.* A rank 1 Choice Pack costs 30 Medallions, so 30 x 40,000 = 1.2 Million AD. Bradda the Sage at the Sage Shop and Fadre the Library Vendor sell rank 1 green Normal and Bonus enchants for 100k AD. So we can buy 12 rank 1 enchants for the cost of one Rank 1 Choice Pack if we were dumb enough to buy 30 Medallions. This is ridiculous. Maybe they meant that 1 Medallion at the Exchange costs 4,000 AD? Even that would be 120,000 AD for 30. But it would be useful if you had 57 and needed 3 more for a rank 2 Choice Pack. If you had only 12, not so much. So I hope that by the time this goes live, we will be able to pool all the Medallions in the Shared Bank. Having multiple Alts with 12 useless Medallions for the Heart of Fire would be a real pain. {:-:-:}

[@arkai4084]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 tnx i Hope they give more medallion honestly i not know if grab all ad and wait until Ppl sell rank2 at lower price maybe a lot time but atm ive 471 point i Need 860 for have the r4 weapon/pet and r2 full slot buy with Just 1.2m i ve all green... Idk really im feel scammed

[@arkai4084]

Sry i 4got to Ask i can buy medaliion with ad ? And if Yes how many ad for medallion? Considerino i Need 60medallion pack and 120 ive fear lol

[@lscott3540]

IS the medallion exchange the only place to get the “new” enchantments?

[@Aragon-]

you can buy rank 1's for 100k AD

[@wayneseibel3167]

I've been saving my VIP keys and artifact boxes as I like to do bulk opens. I now have 130 of each. Would to open now and use trade bars to buys r15 enchants, or wait until after to mod drops. Thanks for all you great work mate.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Personally, I m going to open lock boxes before Mod 22 for the Trade bars. Especially is there's a 20% Trade Bar discount before Mod 22. Coffers of Celestial Artifacts I am saving until the new mod, as they might have Glyphs in them instead of ES. They might add new things to the Trade Bar store for Mod 22, of course. But having more Medallions than we need can't go wrong. Better than not enough. {:-:-:}

[@tgwolf7575]

The only Positive to the new system is that you'll only need a single set of enchantments + a few extras for all of your characters and you'll just trade them over between each character as you play. This is unfortunately overshadowed by the mountain of negatives at this point. - The highest iLvL enchants don't provide Combined Ratings. So across the board you automatically lose several % in all stats. Combined with the iLvL increase, DPS Defensive stats of full geared players are going from ~40-45% to ~32%. DPS already cannot take a hit, this makes that infinitely worse. - Which comes to the 2nd point; having to choose between an Offense or Defense Combat enchant. I wouldn't accept anyone in content as it stands who isn't using a Defensive enchant, especially DPS. They already can't take a hit, I don't need or want dead weight with a further lack of survivability. We need a slot for one of each and they can just halve the iLvL of each to compensate. I'm not joking when I say that if there is only 1 slot, I won't take anyone using an Offensive enchant in any group. - Worst of all, we know the Devs. won't listen to any feedback or criticism on the changes; they never do. Also because of the changes, the mountain of unfixed issues in the game, such as the option to turn proc. text On, which is STILL missing; will continue to go unfixed.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

*_"the option to turn proc. text On, which is STILL missing; will continue to go unfixed."_* But I think they deliberately and specifically removed that a few mods ago, didn't they? Part of the great "simplification" project. They said it cluttered the screen and caused lag. {:-:-:}

[@yika2943]

So I have about 46k IL right now (im only wearing rank 9 enchantments except for one) - so isn't that change a big disaster for players like me? If I get it correctly im definitely going to loose more than I'll gain :O or did I miss sth?

[@Aragon-]

well rank 9's are what 1k each, you have like what maybe 30 of them, your loosing 30k AD, is that a lot?

[@yika2943]

@@Aragon- well considering that im literally always broke cause of fashion items ... yes haha -but yeah I get it loosing 30k is really not much :D thanks for the reply :)

[@georgefron7163]

Dude...this is getting me so tires, wtf?

[@Divaofdanger]

Thanks for the informative vids. They are appreciated. Everyone don't have those higher enchants to flip and are going to left with nothing. This update should be called what it is. A cash grab.

[@Aragon-]

If you don't have rank 10 or higher, yeah this update kinda screws you over. You nearly loose 2k IL

[@robseau]

Actually you only have to buy one choice pack for weapon/armor r14 because the enhancement tab only has one slot, which I guess combines the weapon/armor enchantments into a single slot under the new system. The other 120 could then have been used to by the remaining blue rank enchantments instead of the eight you only bought.

[@alejandrogomez9325]

Actually no, you do need 2. One is for the new combined slot. The other is for your companion slot.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@alejandrogomez9325 Yes, 1 Weapon Enchant rank 15 for 120 Medallions for 1 Combat/Companion Rank 4 Choice Pack for Combat Enchant. AND 1 Armour Enchant rank 15 for 120 Medallions for 1 Combat/Companion Rank 4 Choice Pack for Companion Enchant. OR Six Rank 15 Indomitable Runestones for 120 Medallions to get the Rank 4 Choice Pack for Companion Enchant. The Companion Enchant Rank 4 gives 120% Companion damage, same as the six Indomitables. That's probably the most equitable thing about the Exchange rate on these thngs. {:-:-:}

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

I suppose I'd need to see what each new enchantment does before committing, but I do like the boost in Item Level. Been hanging around 45k on my Hunter Ranger for months now and the easiest ways for me to improve, getting Mythic insignias, is way too slow going. Trading in my Rank 15 enchantments for medallions to buy the new enchantments sounds way easier. No idea how I'm going to afford to upgrade them all, but I suppose if this is a permanent change, I'll get there eventually.

[@tobiaspedersen8333]

how can we play the mod 22 already??

[@Aragon-]

On the public preview server

[@angelusmortis5605]

Good morning it's sad that the devs are hell bent on killing the game! The game has turned into a pay to play CASH GRAB! NO LOVE FOR THE PLAYERS. I will see the new update but I'm looking for a New ps4 mmo to play and it won't be dcuo either been there done that....any suggestions?

[@darudesandstorm9563]

Try warframe if you like sci fi and stuff. New expansion coming out on 15 of december one of the best free games out there. No need to spend a penny and you can trade items for game "real money" currency. One of the best storylines quest ever and sound track. Also devs are high quality and actually care about game as nd players being happy

[@darudesandstorm9563]

And by new expansion i mean new quest yo continue the story line*

[@thekids_callmeboss6577]

What to do with tradebars and when/what to spend?

[@Aragon-]

save for companion and mount upgrade tokens

[@thekids_callmeboss6577]

@@Aragon- thx for answer. I still not have my r15 enchantments as I started 3 months ago. Do you suggest buying them with tradebars before mod 22 comes live? In events tab there's no tradebars discount at all, calendar going to 20 January. I'm guessing they won't add tradebar discount before mod 22.

[@oba-1kenobi]

Even I'm considering using trade bars to get rank 15 enchantments

[@JekyllNHyde420]

I'm going to start saving my legacy tokens for the glyph potency. :)

[@lelecoliandro5668]

I just got my two alts maxed, by the time I get my three toons maxed again, they will launch a new rework 😑

[@damianmiszczak1719]

Well, s_it. I'm not gonna look back...

[@dustind3960]

The finally got the core neverwinter systems peefect in mod 21 for the first time since mod 15

[@Methuselas]

I just came back to the game and this was the biggest fucking nerf I've ever seen them do, since beta. I basically got 2 Legendary Combat and Companion, with ONE Blue enchantment, for ALL of my 12 toons enchantments, combined. 12 weapon/armor enchantments, completely worthless. A lot of my toons had rank 9 enchantments, so they're worthless. My poor kid was so excited to come back to play, after I managed to get my account back, but my VIP rank is 1 again, so that's out. Then, I see that you now need 6 COALS to make a mythic enchantment. I was grateful they gave me my account back, but then I realized I lost 15 mil AD on the Zen market, plus all the other shit. I just gave my kid the nerfed enchantments I managed to make and I'll log in, long enough to burn the raw AD I have left, so I can at least outfit his toon and I'm out. Fuck Cryptic.

[@JDubbb727]

Should I sell all my r5 and up enchantment stones ?

[@Aragon-]

the prices have probably dropped a lot, so idk, maybe they make an exchange

[@justzcross6236]

Me: "I fully recovered from last mod!" NW: "time to change!"

[@Aragon-]

Oh dear, yeah, rip xD

[@Shadowslave604]

very nice of them to not include r9 when they give them away like candy lol not surprised....also all my alts run r9 chants so all my alts will have NO enchants no off deff weapon or anything...not impressed....anti alt move once again

[@druizcardenas312]

System overhaul is neat, new cap for refinement sucks.

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

This is absolutely stupid, they need to quit changing shit if they are going to expect players to keep playing. Is just an AD sink to get you to buy what you need to refine the new stuff. In a year they'll change it to something else and do the same thing.

[@MrHellscreams]

I hope that they allow us to use trade bars for those coals that's a lot :(

[@zkyz5437]

Thank you !!!!

[@vancehillhouse6484]

And here's Aragon to save the day, and ease the mass sheep transition to the slaughter

[@Aragon-]

lol xD

[@dustind3960]

Maybe it will have to come down to a lawsuit for cryptic to stop consteady changing the core systems of neverwinter?

[@rannxerox3970]

Dude, they can do what they want, read the EULA.

[@fauckcryptic9467]

Ive been saying that for 3 years

[@smokingone]

seems things didnt work this way when it went live, you get nothing but an illusion for combat enchantments and heart of fire is not tradeable for anything, its just junk that sits in your inventory or u can sell it for 1 gold.....wew

[@Aragon-]

Yeah :/ Although you should get medallions for rank 10 and higher

[@Methuselas]

@@Aragon- Sucks for people that have say 20-30 rank 9s, though.

[@joelynott]

What a crap man. I'll just finish my vip and bye.

[@brandonfelder9546]

Wow someone else named their lion from lion witch and wardrobe. I thought I was the only super nerd

[@Aragon-]

hehe, yup i did ;p

[@whoareyou56101]

Haven’t touched this game in ages. I’ve been on ESO enjoying the game and content not worrying about gear and playing the game like a 9-5 job lmao. NW game has definitely crumbled 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tomislavpazitka6104]

When will start this change on Play Station? ...which date??? I just can't believe that Cryptic Studio didn't learn anything in last 7 years. Nothing goes on force. This abusive offensive harassment behaviour of Cryptic Studio already brings them down to the 0 success and stil didn't learn anything. Again, 90% gamers will leave Neverwinter and the rest of us will just continue to spend less and less efforts, money, diamonds and time on this game. What a pity, but I guess, Cryptic punish only themselves for their wrong stupid behavior in the end. Stupid crazy people & companies can't be changed. They are perfect example for study in psychology

[@44bladerunner1]

So if you have 11 rank 14 weapon/armour enchants you could trade those to get 11 legendary choice packs & then upgrade those to mythic, surely that's alot easier than getting just blue ones ? 👍

[@Aragon-]

you can only get normal enchants from the blue packs. The legendary packs only give combat enchants and companion enhancement

[@44bladerunner1]

@@Aragon- ah right thanks

[@archon8669]

maybe they will convert all marks of potency into glyph of potency

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

That's the most awkward thing I've ever seen a company would do, GG CRYPTIC & IMPERFECT WORLD.

[@marshallodom1388]

Number of Enchantments 4 offensive 4 defensive 1 utility 2 overload 1 combat 1 bonus New costs for Rank 1 : 30 Medallions Rank 2 : 60 Medallions Rank 3 : 90 Medallions Rank 4 : 120 Medallions Not including anything for Companions, to fill the 13 new slots you need.... 450 Medallions min (all Rank 1s except Combat, a R4) @40k AD ea is 18M AD or around $240. Or, go all out with 1440 Medallions for all Rank 4s for around $768. For a new mod I would only be willing to pay 5% of what they are asking for, max. I guess it's time for me to find a new game.

[@marshallodom1388]

I've got 20 characters all loaded up with Rank 9s, mostly that I got from Lockboxes I paid money for keys for. Each one has a few Rank 10s that I bought in the auction house, with AD I converted from Zen, again real money. So, I'll get a dozen or so Medallions for those, but not enough to get a single Rank 1 for even 1 of my 20 characters. And I can't even upgrade my Floral Vorpal Enchantment above Rank 9 (capped) that I paid money for in the Zen store, in order to at least keep the illusion.

[@riveraharper8166]

Umm. Imho Astral diamond compensation is proven to be very bad in the long run. I think it should be out of the question. 66 million Zax backlog can easily reach 80 or 100 million backlog...

[@brass_hearses]

remember that the Zax issue is only an issue for f2p players, not for the devs who are doing whatever they can to lure as much $ out of people's pockets as they can. for them the backlog is a kind of 'motivation' for those who want their Zen fast, especially combined with limited zen store sales and whatnot. the bonding exchange issue wasn't an accident in the first place. so won't be surprised if Mod22 ends up doubling the backlog

[@dragonlord4801]

They want it to stay backlogged so people are forced to use real-life money

[@riveraharper8166]

​@@brass_hearses You can't just automatically accuse the devs for everything! People who cry for AD compensation and support it are also responsible for short-sightedness and ignorance! The game had tolerable backlog for 7 years. The bonding exchange was a terrible decision. Which made the backlog ridiculous. AD compensation should be out of the picture imho!

[@xX_N_E_O_Xx]

@@riveraharper8166 it's not just the devs, the company too, and I mean "imperfect world"

[@brass_hearses]

@@riveraharper8166 ya sure, rather than 'automatically accuse the devs' for everything' just blame it on those nasty people who dare complain. The same way they've been complaining _for years_ about the healer's mark bug, the RD BHE bug, broken rifts in Vallenhas, broken dungeon bosses, random disconnects et cetera et cetera, the list is too long for a youtube comment, and yet the bugs are still present because nobody cares about what people say unless it has to do with potential financial losses for the company, like the recent Knox Box issue. I don't 'automatically accuse' the poor underpaid Cryptic coders for the global warming here, I blame the decision-makers for shady, predatory, cold and short-sighted business strategies designed for milking as much money out of the players as possible via the nastiest means possible. Do you really think that the Cryptic people who talk to players on the forums have anything to do with the actual in-game design decisions? Do you really think they're a team of 5 high schoolers that are too young and inexperienced to understand the possible consequences of decisions such as bonding to AD exchange, so they just randomly mess up? If you're still eager to automatically accuse some complaining players (what players? even RDQ takes hours now because there aren't that many players left to begin with lol) please watch the recent Josh Strife Hayes' video on Neverwinter, especially the part about predatory pricing in the Zen store because it's quite on point as to what is going on

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

None of the ranks have their own % chance of success, so a mote for +1% is useless. They should have a sliding scale from rank 1 to 5, with 1% at rank 4 to 5. {:-:-:}

[@zammyxzant]

Me: *Finally, i got everything to max* Cryptic: *Nah fam, hold my beer*

[@Aragon-]

thats how this game works xD all the time there will be something new you need to be max