Throne & Liberty - Devs Respond to Critical Bugs: Compensation, Downtime, Buff Stacking, Patches...

[@Josh-99]

It's important to remember that Amazon is NOT the development team. The Korean team is bifurcated: there is a Korean version being worked on by a specific team, and there is a global version being worked on by a specific team. The codebases are separate forks that share assets but are NOT identical. Amazon's team provides infrastructure, support, QA, translation, etc.; but they are NOT the primary development team and work in an augmenting role at best. It's the same way with Lost Ark. I feel like they need to get the two versions of the game merged as quickly as possible to reduce these kinds of issues. I know they are still working on globalization for Tier 2 content, and that takes time, but once they are done they should bring the two versions together and consolidate their development efforts. Honestly, the Korean players could use the QOL improvements that the global release offers.

[@whizell2224]

Its ok more BUG mean more ORNATE

[@JustinsKeyblade]

10hrs was suppose to be 1k ornates... i want my ornates....

[@Exile8oh8]

I think the devs are using chat gpt to write their code.

[@quitwastinmytime]

I have stuff for sale in the auction house I didn't put in there. Funnily enough, I did sell 1 fish steak for 10 lucent.

[@MitsisChris]

also , the "new " blue pvp trinket that removes stun etc etc , does not work AGAIN in arena .

[@Aragon-]

yeah :/ Something really went wrong with their files

[@Catto217]

Even the yellow potion doesn't work lol.

[@OnlyDoubleP]

The Open Beta for Global was only “One Week” we could have benefited from 1 or 2 Months for Testing.

[@Not_Harvard]

My server had 2 conflict arch bosses rather than 1 peace and 1 conflict... so that's about how this week is going so far.

[@sergejscherschen6870]

Hi, has anyone's stats dropped after the update?

[@van_tigranyan]

Another bug that popped up today with contacts. I opened 4 crypt contracts and the game was not allowing me to open the 5th, because it thought I have opened 5. Finished these 4 and then it suddenly got fixed.

[@AmaiaCrystal]

I burnt so many cooking ingredients without realizing… I just needed to do my weekly cooks, so did them all, check inv and was like.. wait.. wtf? I hope I get a refund, kinda feel scammed.

[@npgilbertson]

I've had issues with my amitoi, they are done but aren't done until I relog. So I have to relog every hour I play the game to gather my amitoi rewards. I get it's a mess and a challenge for development, but TBH the amount of games overall launched, released, and updated with massive amounts of bugs needs to change.

[@evo6152]

why is the dimensional trial points not being awarded being talked about? or is it just me missing points from my dimensional trial clears?

[@BEAUKirby]

How come me and all my Guild were able to spend our crystals before they were converted to potions? They definitely did NOT force convert crystals, there was time to spend them because I spent them after the update

[@jchzzeemp594]

I can't believe the parties still haven't been addressed in a game that parties are crucial

[@antioutie]

Is it normal for it to show Chaos stone chests as a rewards after beating a Tier 5 dungeon, but then there being no chest in your inventory? That has happened twice to me on Void.

[@killaclutch4208]

Didn't get any of these bugs and I was playing soons the servers came back up what I find weird is I had the option to convert or not interact with the converting into potion I still have my crystals is it a case of ppl are click happy and don't read first until it's too late

[@Aragon-]

Some people are claiming they had no option and others could genuinely have done it not knowing there would be an option to spend them after maintenance

[@madstork91]

I used to live in Korea. The crash was big, but companies didn't shut down for it. They need to fix the game.

[@SuperBigNye]

are guild raid bosses didnt reset after maintenance again anyone else have this bug ?

[@rosaria715]

the party issue: i could not que into dungeons cause it said "only the leader can que" yeah but im the only one in the party. Then i try to leave the party and it display "you are not in a party" while i am the only person in the party, i have the crown and the game denied everything i could do. How do i fix this, relogg / reboot the game. Same with the interaction issue on NPC's annoying for sure but what can we do atm

[@XarisXI]

Hire blizzard emplyees for the execution part of the updates. This is no longer an Indie brand new MMO, we dont need compensation , we need to see this thing roll.

[@zoyita04]

You know what mistake i did? the day before the update i thought they would remove the gift npc and used 26 wreaths on stelarite, then when the update was up the npc was still there and restocked and I couldnt buy the books :(

[@Aragon-]

oh yikes :/

[@gheraldobendon9904]

the new morph also bugged, you should get it on both of your character but only the character you buy it get the morph, your alt char won't get it

[@walterrose3520]

@@gheraldobendon9904 THIS..got me too

[@christophercapio5005]

I thought it was just me. I was furious with the interact thing it annoyed me a lot. I was doing t2 dungeon and at the end I couldn't open the chest.

[@LeChickenSan]

every patch there's 10 new bugs even though there were no changes on patch notes related to said areas of the game

[@andrewheavenridge7955]

New World would shut down the auction house for days. On multiple occasions. It was disabled more often than it was available. 1.5 hours to fix major issues is nothing

[@rogerjrlavigneleblanc4656]

Thx for the news man much appreciated

[@ralmslb]

On a patch that essentially fixed stuff and didn't add anything, the frequency of bad maintenances is shocking. Completely spaghetti code to be able to break so many things every single time

[@matthewbenish1301]

Also island chest was reverted back to pre selectional chest days

[@Florian-xo5nz]

Did a Flashwave while Moving backwards and dont heal myself with it ...

[@sofcd]

Aridus and Ascetism bugs still there

[@Aragon-]

Not fixed on global yet

[@Eyeduka]

Doesn't anybody even considers that they do all this on purpose?

[@Just4Play34]

Ive buy the Ghost Taion but i cant use It on my second character

[@Jimmyz96]

that's a better alternative than logging in and out to solve it. I was able to spend my crystals

[@okaydude5096]

my star crystals were gone simply cause i clicked claim as potions before the update started i did that on my alt realized the mistake and didnt do it on my main

[@RylanStorm]

Woah....what are cooking contracts?

[@raymondhayes480]

There is a person in Vienta Village now who you can get contracts from for cooking. I have not done it as it also eats up your contract rights...but, if you want a quick reward that is not a type of stone, it is there.

[@RylanStorm]

@@raymondhayes480 Thanks for this. I've not been able to play much this week so I've just gone and hammered 40 contracts just with things I have stored. Quick way to use them up without having to trash around Shattered Temple for an hour.

[@pakaka9523]

One Archboss weapon litho for each person affected by bugs would be just fine, thank you.

[@heyjulzdontmakeitbad]

This is Bethesda-like level of bug fixing. fix 1 get 2 more 😂

[@Heartbeeat21]

I can't wait for another 500 ornate coins has compensation.

[@MrPinballWizzard]

I wonder when they gonna add next tier weapons and etc

[@KimzzeCOTW]

The auction house has been bug on Console since I started playing. It's so frustrating. But I Enjoy the game, so I'll survive. At the end for the day, its just a game. We have bigger problems in the world right now.

[@ck8579]

isnt los angeles a literal hellscape still?

[@ch3micalromanc369]

The world's going to end sooner than you think 👍

[@schneek.p.1291]

Still remember when Archboss didn't drop any loots LMAO. After playing so a lot of MMO like GW2, BDO, AK, Mir4, DN. This is the first time where devs didn't care about their player at all, even for simple bugs like this. It's just so disappointing that a game from 2020+ (2024) can't even compare to older gen mmo's

[@atabudak7047]

Do they not have testers? Some of these bugs are really hard to miss, for example the interaction bug happens with almost every npc.

[@yunsha9986]

@@atabudak7047 These cksucks from ags have taken over ncsoft's code without knowing jacksheet. That's how bad it is

[@Magoverso]

They have. They're called "players" hahaha we are they testers 😂

[@Bankai90]

@@Magoverso I'd rather be the tester than get stuff even later lol

[@mudcult]

I have had literally no issues with any of these. Sucks for the ones who did though

[@Tankerbell83]

the star crystal issue happened on my main but not my alt. weird but it happened.

[@acaplette]

Probably take a break for a week or two until this all gets resolved. Seriously, there are other games to cycle on.

[@JustinsKeyblade]

utiliti buffs are always allowed to be stack-able...

[@FlokkaeZ]

Looks like they went on vaca, came back and had to do a rushed catch up.

[@sgninjaop7162]

Even the bug report was bugged LOL

[@SilentWoof]

Bro, they broke the cooking too and reverted it to the system in-place at release 😂

[@Aragon-]

yeah rip, same with the arena disabling the purification stones

[@macsdf1]

ah , no wonder i was making white food today

[@kevz1363]

How tf do they manage to break core game mechanics that they aren't even updating? That's what frustrates me the most with this game. If there isn't an update to interacting with npcs, why are you touching the code that goes to that? The battle pass didn't have any issues. Why did someone screw it up in the update a little over a week ago? It would have avoided the current issue of people losing points and having to extend the pass. There were no updates to cooking, so how in the world did cooking ingredients get reversed???? Like how are they introducing bugs into things that they shouldn't even be looking at during a weekly update, let alone changing. If it is working, leave it alone. It's great that they are quick with bug updates, but they are fixing an issue that they directly caused in the previous update. They still haven't fixed stuff that has been broken since the start of the game. I still sometimes drop out of the sky like a rock when I am flying. Getting stuck in charging animations, rubber banding and pulling you out of morph/running, blanacing issues. Idk about anyone else, but I'm still missing common items out of my lithograph because they drop from one, or a very small number, of mobs (human mobs in nesting grounds, loot goblins in golden rye are two examples), and the drop rate is so shit that I have sat there and killed those mobs for hours and not gotten a common item. How is that a common item? And I'm sure that is just a small number of the issues that have existed for a while

[@radeknosil2950]

imagine lost ark global was very polished at launch, so its possible

[@thereno1173]

I work 2 weeks at a time out of town so no extra week for me lol

[@xSwollimus]

They fix 5 bugs and add 10 in. Maybe if they spent less time trying to create stupid new outfits and morphs for us to waste our lucent on they could fix the bugs.

[@makarascsl8974]

Omg when whey fix concole chat

[@TwoSpiritPenguin]

Theyre hemorrhaging players daily and this will definitely help stop it

[@Drowned_Corpse.]

They fix one thing and break 5 another in the process :D

[@Gothfel]

Astral vision making the scan sound and animation every 3 seconds is extremely annoying ://

[@Raze001]

Ill be getting my flying goat sooner 😂

[@Aragon-]

Ahahaha xD

[@umbra1_01]

Fix one bug, another 2 pop up. Its like a hydra.

[@maebemae]

SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

[@cameronbelcher3602]

But by God them cosmetics came in fire asf.😅😅😅

[@glovebox421]

still waiting for dps meter

[@UncleFloydGG]

we know who hired the Cryptic devs 🤣

[@h.erencelik]

All welcome to new bugs, this game is killing itself…

[@Undergroundtornado]

Didnt even talk about the biggest thing, which is the server transfer lockout was fixed and retroactively applies. This has stranded dozens of guilds in servers they went to in order to make the most of the increased arch boss periods. Out of every issue this is the most detrimental because pvpers want to go to servers with fights and now have to wait 2 more weeks in barren servers with no content

[@fckihate69jokes]

let them be stuck. they are abusing it and killing every server they go to.

[@Aragon-]

yikes, I had not known of that. All the guilds I know decided we'd just stay in our server

[@azeon562]

Lmao, by "guilds who wanted to make the most of double arch boss" he means guilds who hopped to dead servers so that they could monopolize arch boss drops with zero competition. Now those "competetive" guilds want to come back to PvP since half their roster is sporting an archboss weapon. That, or sell their gains on an EA server where prices tend to be higher. I say, let em stick around and be kings of their new 2k population servers until merges happen 🤣

[@skills8854]

@@azeon562exactly lmao got exactly what they deserved trynna finesse the system like that

[@backchat8086]

This makes me so happy 😁

[@camiarmandav3ng3r-40]

all mmo have bugs jsut iamgine wow that is mroe then 20 years old and has some basic bugs that been there for years and as long as they give us mroe orante coins is fine but not only 500 like always we need more coz of this/they added mroe stuff on orante coins btw

[@hirotakasugi4891]

They can’t even patch after weeks of no maint without breaking many things. One or two? Sure. But 😂 this much

[@danielmarques1048]

thats so rediculous, they keep fixing and adding more bugs, its like on a loop, instead of fixing real stuff in game such as tab targeting and charge skills bugging out

[@stefanvogels7140]

So I highly disagree with you not missing out on anything.. look at the scrolls for open world dungeons.. disolve those to be able to craft T2 Scrolls for the new open world dungeons..

[@Catto217]

Too much bots & macro script user on PC, I've reported them multiple times and they're still there 🙄

[@Lt.Dans_Legs-freesp3Ak]

Get rid of scripting. If PC players couldn't cheat, they couldn't play at all 😂

[@Aragon-]

yeah that needs to stop

[@thevalorantguy8615]

They won’t get rid of it man. They can barely even patch the game with a new battle pass

[@mowieci8744]

​@@thevalorantguy8615I lost old battle pass because of bugs... refund? forget it.

[@Zero_XZ17]

Yeah scripting is getting really fucking out of hand. If you need stuff from the AH, favorite the item you need, then look into it through the favorites

[@TheHolsomback]

I'm on pc and never heard of this scripting, what is it? dw I'm not gona do it just wondering

[@volisha]

for me is not rly fun i try it, but there is no smal pvp, only mass pvp and there only nummbers count, castle siege sux all attakers are red so they fight befor come to castle betwen them self, what survival die from defenders. a couple of ally dominate all servers u can join them and there is no more rly pvp for u.

[@ch3micalromanc369]

Trash mobs going crazy yesterday lol im 4.6k cp and got nearly bis gear they were hitting me like paper yesterday 😂 the games crazy bug fest atm

[@MrPinballWizzard]

Damn, I thought cryptic was bad XD this is new level shit XD

[@Aragon-]

yeah rip xD

[@TheDarkHarper]

No, this is totally hilarious

[@tlshorts231]

10 hours update time and get this bugs but thats normal cuz Amazon small indie company 😂

[@sgru9558]

100% repeat of New World, full of bugs that are not fixed in time.

[@christmasl]

What did you do all 8 hours when there was technical work??? They picked each other 's noses , started the servers with the fact that they did nothing and made new ones out of old mistakes - Applause , The worst source is to lose your audience !!!

[@AliceGlitchic]

i lost all my points from christmas

[@Aragon-]

oof

[@beako6447]

i have 1.8k star crystals and all of it got converted to potions when i didnt even do shit i have no other option but to collect the potions and for some reason i cant see the new battlepass too. this game is scuffed af

[@Stickx007]

I can go a day or two without playing TnL. I played New World so these bugs are nothing

[@macnetionteso1946]

Im have 1053 hours guys and the BEST u can do IS stop playing this Game IS a joke

[@Raptchur]

I'm just biding my time until Monster Hunter Wilds comes out. About the game being a joke... pretty sure i've said that about 5 times just today. It's embarrassing to put trash like this out. And the super weird cope by a lot of people is even more embarrassing.

[@D4rkstone1337]

I have also 1030h and I still having fun.

[@othmanehemamou7503]

The game is fun stop telling ppl to leave just for some bugs its happen bro a lot of time some issues in the production but the game will be much better without this bugs but its life brother

[@eddiefortmann02]

I'm over 1k hours, and it's still a blast...this dude is retarded...

[@EviLLivEClan]

they fixed the auction house. Thx for video

[@wallabykrastus4877]

go back to throne and cc patch

[@luismyp31]

The poor indie devs at it again, glad to quit the shitfest...

[@motng1585]

At least they fixed the interaction and AH bug quickly in a short day. Didn't have to wait a week.

[@Aragon-]

At least that, yes

[@Raptchur]

Dont try to filter in the AH. It re-breaks it. You guys gotta stop with all the cope. It's okay to call trash trash. And the team working on this game is complete trash. They are terrible at their jobs.

[@xSimplyGood--]

They only do it so „fast“ because u need lucent for the AH We have a bug since 3-4 weeks on ps5 server where u cant build groups

[@Kxng_O]

jollygood?

[@motng1585]

@@Raptchur I'm not going to make excuses, just saying they fixed the F and AH buttons during the day. And sorry console guys. You guys are angry at me and I can't help. I won't tease you into leaving or just quit but will say you should take a break from the game until the devs respond more positively.

[@lostinfrance9830]

Don't mention the food ffs, jesus fc, Fun police detected

[@ghoulty]

@@lostinfrance9830 using bugs is cool now? 🤡

[@CosmicGirl_yt]

the game is dying and they manage to make it worst

[@The-Dark-Tower]

Compensate us? Lets give away 500 ornate coin... Shortly, delay on new contents or fixes etc are confirmed. The game is dead already (pvp and pve are not fun at all, and thy don't intend to fix it but bring more grind on weapon system, new t2 gear, artifacts, guardian system and so many things within 2025 roadmap). As long as thy don't fix this zerg issue in very small sized pvp and pve areas, this game will be never fixed. Thus, I guess it is time to find another game to play. AGS wants us to play New World again^^, thy love to bring Lucent shop items to get more money from players, and in the meantime thy have already ruined the game.

[@Oni-Ryu8]

It's a shit game anyway

[@desmondvillar]

this shit is common when you are maintaining multiple branch of source codes.. hope they accelerate the catch up of content to KR version so that there will be less of things to bugged out of

[@ajjames1960]

sadly the community is full of bunch crybabies everything is fix anyways lol even warframe which is 11 years old game struggle with bugs everytime they do maintenance

[@mrfish229]

You are underestimating amazon's ability to fuck up things that work perfectly fine

[@emailgaming3677]

is the stats that keeps changing every login has been fixed? i had to check this after the patch but it seems they already fixed this issue.. howabout to everyone? it always happened to me before in my gs/speer that the str keeps removing and transfering the stats to wisdom. the whole month long issue was killing my interest in the game, and they havent compensated us all whos endlessly experiencing this issue. atleast they should have fixed it earlier,. now i know that each bug they made for each new patch, expect that they wont fix it untill the next major patch..

[@koprolith]

do u have several weapon combos/presets o that account? a mate of me found the stats to change between sets when loged out not on "set1"