Arc Sport ELECTRIC WAKEBOAT: Test Drive and CEO Interview

[@backcountyrpilot]

The collapsable tower and bow and stern thrusters are, as we would say in the 80’s, gnarly, rad and awesome! All that matters is the wave, however, so please talk more about the surf systems, ballast and actual regular vs goofy waves!

[@pangrac1]

This is best done review of this boat on youtube.

[@efthimios]

Imagine if they worked out the long term sustainability of the battery and replacement costs, this is a game changer over insane fuel costs in boating

[@paulsandgren8625]

What it needs is a 250kw/hr DC fast chargers so if needed the boat could be charged and ready to go in an hour or so. In most cases 220v shore power will be sufficient for overnight charging. It depends on how the boat is used. Definitly a step in the right direction and it has close price parity with ICE boats in it's class

[@concinnus]

They only show AC in this vid, but you can see it has DC pins, and the CEO said that it can charge DC@250kW in another video. Granted, that's only peak power and we don't know the curve.

[@bobbygxo1289]

I love the idea of a electric wakeboard boat. Being a wakeboat owner I see so much potential. I would get this if I had a ridiculous amount of money available. I have a few questions on the sports side of this boat. Is there a surf gate? or how does it make a surf wave? is there a wedge for custom wake settings? The ballast tanks, where are they located and how much additional weight can be added. How about board racks? Sound system? What type of hull is used, is it a Deep V? I feel like this boat is a step in the right direction to compete with the Nautiques, Malibus and Mastercrafts, just get some wakeboarders and wakesurfers on the R&D team ;) I'll help

[@bobbygxo1289]

Just saw from the pictures it does have a surf gate and wedge. Awesome! Getting more impresed.

[@paulsandgren8625]

At about $250000 the fuel savings aren't really a factor but it is good to see a purpose built electric boat that can run long enough. About 4 hours of heavy use. The only down side is it will be a long time before you see DC fast charging at your local marina. Once the battery is depleted, you have to wait until thw next day to run it again.

[@techiedani]

Yes!! But I disagree, I think any boater is happy to save on gas and maintenance costs no matter the purchase price! It's best for a dock at home type of spot for sure

[@michaelmiller6878]

It probably depends on the Lakes you're on. The ones I've spent the most time on all have private docks. We only go to the Marina to get fuel. If it were electric, we'd have a setup on our dock....much like charging your Tesla, and likely rarely ever go to the Marina again. I certainly wouldn't say gas isn't a factor. We've spent between 3-5k per year running it seasonally. Still a big operating cost. I've read you can install a DC Fast charger for between 10-40k. This might be worthwhile for people who can afford this boat. You'd get fast charging turnaround times and it would pay for itself in gas 5-ish years. I've owned electric....range anxiety and all of that is kind of nonsense. The only real worry for me with a boat would be the overall battery life and the cost to replace them all.

[@scotthall1381]

Top of line boats from other manufacturers cost 250k

[@pangrac1]

Add solar panels on the bimini. 😉

[@backcountyrpilot]

@@scotthall1381The top Natique’s are closer to $450,000 now.

[@shaneyule3484]

Unreal! if it lasts all day and you can charge it overnight. Not to mention virtually no maintenance.

[@techiedani]

Yes exactly think of all the time and money you can save!! I want one hehe

[@jameshuard-h6m]

i misst ya...keep doin a GREAT job and welcome back, support and comment on street outlaws live to make it great again

[@ericfriedle456]

The main boat builders of wake boats already have electric boats in the market. They are already years behind the main ski market with an unproven boat. To say it’s not like a boat she has driven before you can tell she isn’t use to ski boats. All the options she said the big three don’t have is false they have it all. The boat looks like an epic. Which they also were I believe the first fully electric ski boat and also a Cali company.

[@backcountyrpilot]

Is there room to allow electric motors and a rack/motor system to move the heavy batteries port-starboard, fore-aft to adjust the wake?

[@ChadMartinson-LaunchBlox]

At $250k it's not saving anyone any money. I love the idea of electric boats. Arguably the best application of EV technology. Make it affordable to the average boater and you have a winner.

[@rrrrkoop2776]

wakeboard boats easily cost $250K from top manufacturers and up. the 23' is a good length and probably 50 to 75 more than what you could pay for a comparable wakeboard boat on the reasonable side.

[@tobias3383]

What is the wave rating it puts out... height and Length? Also, how long can a person wakesurf on this boat before it needs to get charged?

[@ltownandfriends4531]

6:43. gas boats do put oil in the water but only when they are two stroke. due to the age of the sport of wakeboarding, I would argue that every single purpose build gas wakeboard boat uses a four stroke engine and thus the oil pollution is not a fair point to bring up when doing a gas /electric comparison.

[@DSC800]

The kwh usage is pretty vague. I'd like to know the kwh/mile (or kwh/hour) and at 20mph (typical wake speed) and at 25mph (optimal plane?) and even at 10mph (just so you'd know if you could get home if you're running low on fuel). Also, charging at the dock sounds great but in reality you'd be lucky to get level2 or better without spending a ton of money on equipment. So this equates to a couple days to charge from 10-90% (~150kwh). Forget about back to back full days.

[@ct1762]

so the battery is what 250kw, and whats the consumption? it seems youd have maybe 45 minutes at 350kw/hr consumption since its 500hp? if thats the case 4 hours is a lie. at that rate 25 minutes of full throttle and your getting towed in.

[@daveeast3]

I got to mention, this isn't exactly the first electric wakeboard boat. Technically that title belongs to the nautique gs22e. Though a GS model, still would be the first electric wake boat.

[@AdventuresInTheSky]

NACS Mitch!!

[@jeremyleestma5815]

Decent boat but how many hours can you run per charge? How long does it take to get a full charge?

[@michaelmiller6878]

This CEO claimed in another video it could go 4-6 hours under constant use…skiing etc. He also claimed recharging in 40 minutes. Seems quick for this amount of batteries.

[@paulsandgren8625]

That is if you can DC fast charge. At 220v shore power you are looking at 8-10 hours.

[@michaelmiller6878]

@@paulsandgren8625 Makes sense. When you first get a boat, sometimes you may want to be out all day. If you keep it at a lake, then most people aren't going out for more than 4-5 hours of skiing and playing. Seems like these could threaten traditional ski boats. Not sure I'd want to invest that much in a first generation model though.

[@paulsandgren8625]

@@michaelmiller6878 when we go skiing at the lake, we sometimes have as many as 3 groups who want to use the boat. It litterally is running from after breakfast until dusk. We usually put 200+ hours on the boat every summer.

[@michaelmiller6878]

@@paulsandgren8625 Sounds atypical. Seems like you need another boat. That’s a long time to sit around waiting for a turn. I’ll pass 😁

[@Will_Shary]

Too bad that wave doesn't compare to the top wake boats, nautique, centurion, mastercraft. Hopefully they improve on the hull design and add more ballast

[@bobbygxo1289]

Thinking the same thing, but it's in the right direction.

[@TM-jv1fb]

Another video adding some lead to see if they can get a better wave. Love the idea of electric boats but hate the inconvenience of charging it. Most docks have shore power but not the current to support it.

[@techiedani]

so they did tell me they were still adjusting the design/software for the wake, it should be getting better (this was technically a prototype). but weight of the batteries is awesome for wake, and they purposely placed them for that - should be pretty comparable I would think. I would like to see a side by side

[@Will_Shary]

@@techiedani not comparable at all due to hull design. It also weighs less than most big wakesurf boats. It’s definitely an awesome first go at it but needs some big updates to compete with the big wake boat players. Definitely going to be cool to see this tech in 3-5 years

[@RyanRager44]

It's a little vanilla.

[@rrrrkoop2776]

got a blown head gasket on my Mastercraft right now. prob cost a couple thousand to fix.

[@meathead585]

what is it's top speed ? Sounds like it costs about the same as a Porsche 911..992.2

[@ct1762]

problem is modern gas equivalent boats do everything this does, without the inconvenience of charging and has better range usually for less $ . people look at this and say "wow old gas engines must be noisy and stinky" when its the opposite. they are near silent, super smooth, and have no discernible exhaust fumes. been like this for decades. try a new supra. youd be shocked at how much better it rides i bet.

[@GeraldPUR]

Wheres the solar roof option? You can put at least 1Kw of solar on that roof. Just saying. And why so expensive?!

[@backcountyrpilot]

Board racks/storage are not shown and are very important. The upholstery looks very rudimentary. Rear facing seats on the transom would be nice. Please compare actual electricity costs vs the gasoline savings that you mentioned several times. Electricity is not even close to free.

[@milliondollarredneck]

🤘

[@techiedani]

:)

[@raymondaparris5140]

Warranty, battery life, battery cost, etc…make very questionable or viable to an analytical person.

[@DJStroble]

Wakeboard wake?

[@techiedani]

Yep! I didn't test it but its a super customizable wake for any water sports they tell me

[@mrbob9556]

It is too bad it is still out of the price range for most people. just like Tesla it is not an versatile car because of price, charging and range. Electric boats and Airplanes for that matter are still waiting for the next battery revolution. Buy don't get me wrong. It is an exiting concept and is already here.

[@TM-jv1fb]

Most wake boats are out of the price range of people. My same model has gone up over 100k in the past two years. It sucks.

[@scotthall1381]

Top of the line mastercrafts are easily 250k

[@ben4gor]

No mention of the range on their website... 🤔

[@techiedani]

Yeah odd but it’s 4-6 hours of heavy use and 24+ hours of slow cruising. So enough for a day easily

[@ct1762]

@@techiedani that seems fishy. why not put that in writing? it seems more likely you'd get maybe 30 minutes at full power, 1 hr at cruise, and even less pulling a wakeboarder at high load half-plane speeds

[@eddieg8976]

Just because your from California does not mean you have to charge California prices. This pos is 250k. RIDICULOUS! 👎👎👎👎 No thanks! I'll stick to fuel operated boats.

[@Angelboy99]

It seems interesting but the acquisition price is way off for a daily boat. Early adopters will go for it as well as bigger boat owners and wavers obviously. This baby needs to be hauled out of water and sleep in a boat house with charger. Smile😊

[@techiedani]

I mean it is right in-line with other top of the line wake boats...they are never cheap ;)

[@andrewasselin1611]

The wave is not as good as

[@Mark-wl5oi]

Where is this guy buying his electricity? Ten's of dollars a day. Tell the truth man.

[@jmartinoutdoor]

Here is Georgia we pay 9.6c per kilowatt hour, so .096x226kw battery is $21.70 to charge from 0-100%. So ya, he's telling the truth.

[@polska905]

"should be able to go all day" that's a false statement, total nonsense...

[@Zak-nv1tl]

4-6 hours of heavy use. Close to nobody goes longer than that of continuous use. If you calculate all the time stopping and hanging out and changing different riders that’s easily a 10 hour day.

[@polska905]

​@@Zak-nv1tl not even close, it's simple math with electric, it has a 226kw battery, in order for it to last 6 hours you need to average around 37kw per hour which is around 50hp, there's no way you are doing any wake/tow sports activities on a boat this big and heavy with only 50hp, not even close! And this is assuming 100% efficiency and also doesn't account for the fact that the usable battery capacity is locked to around a little over 200kw...

[@kerrytodd3753]

This has to be the stupidest boat idea on the market……how do people get funding to build idiotic stuff like this?

[@jesperbgeholm9582]

no i don't wanna be on a boat if a battery catch fire. !

[@dtiff]

What about a boat full of combustible gasoline?

[@jesperbgeholm9582]

@@dtiff it's a completely different kind of fire. and does it help to jump in salt water to get away from an electrical fire?

[@Angelboy99]

Cause your not a boat person! Fires on boats happen every day. EV’s burn less per thousand than ICE vehicles. It’s a fact.

[@xploration1437]

@@jesperbgeholm9582being afraid of a battery catching fire is as ignorant as being afraid to fly in a plane. Grow up

[@RC-hn8sj]

Do you work for the Oil & Gas Industry?

[@mattjagger4360]

When did electricity and water become a good idea 😂

[@dtiff]

Yachts, cruise ships, submarines and aircraft carriers with nuclear electrical generators….yeah nothing new.

[@jesperbgeholm9582]

@@dtiff yeah but highly unstable lithium is the new part of that composition

[@Angelboy99]

Underwater and underground electric cables exist for at least 100 years. Any ship or rig had generators producing electricity. Batteries have been part of boating for a century as well. Electricity works anywhere.

[@xtremecoast]

It's DC electric.

[@michaelmiller6878]

@@jesperbgeholm9582 That's mostly media hype. If well contained and built, it's rarely a factor. Every Tesla that crashes and has a fire is on TV. Combustion batteries cause many more fires than EV's on a per vehicle basis. Boat fires can be a big deal. Most are already electrical in nature (prior to these electrically powered boats). It seems this new breed has a lot into packaging the battery, compared to existing and older boats. I'd assume it's less risk than more risk in total, comparative to the car comparison.