Why GM Is Getting Into Electric Boats

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Everything is going electric, including boats. General Motors recently invested $150 million in one start-up, Pure Watercraft, to build an electric pontoon boat. And several others are working to bring their own battery-powered offerings to market. Could boating be the next industry to go electric after cars?
Introduction: 2:00
Chapter 1, Electrifying boats: 2:10
Chapter 2, Electric boat start-ups: 4:10
Chapter 3, Demand and bigger vessels: 9:00
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Why GM Is Getting Into Electric Boats

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@compassroses
@compassroses 2 жыл бұрын
I have a zero-emission watercraft. It's called a canoe.
@blucow6677
@blucow6677 2 жыл бұрын
me too, its called staying away from water because mother nature is mad at us
@Xcerptshow
@Xcerptshow 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt it funny how we are reverting back to the energy sources of the middle ages? Windmills, hydro and paddle power?
@compassroses
@compassroses 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xcerptshow Ironic, but a wise strategy.
@CarlittosWay
@CarlittosWay 2 жыл бұрын
i have one of those too, but trust me I personally am by no means zero emissions 💨💨💨
@compassroses
@compassroses 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlittosWay Yeah, breathing is dangerous to the planet.
@impuls60
@impuls60 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 22ft ex sailboat hull with two trolling motors, it charges itself every 2 days with a solar panel. Love the fact that it just works and is ready to go every time I want to go out.. No gas/oil maintance, no winter storage concerns. I wish someone could make a 2 kW motor, esc and battery controller for 1000usd. High end solutions like this is already developed to death.
@hairybelly9910
@hairybelly9910 2 жыл бұрын
Im thinking about doing this to my boat but also thinking it would be cool to do a diy conversion on an old broken down car and have it charge just enough to run to town.
@American_Psycho707
@American_Psycho707 2 жыл бұрын
i got a wooden barrel and a paddle thats all i need
@adddude7524
@adddude7524 5 ай бұрын
Why not make a video on it? :)
@FireEverLiving
@FireEverLiving 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I love sailing because of the quiet and lack of gas smell, but sailing is very restrictive. An electric boat would be great. Add solar and it'd be even better: you could maybe someday "sail" around the world without an actual sail. I've been impressed by GM's forward-thinking electric strategy.
@lesstevens2370
@lesstevens2370 2 жыл бұрын
Look at silent yachts you can aready
@licencetoswill
@licencetoswill 2 жыл бұрын
solar yachts are a thing. Turanor sailed the world years ago
@ghostldr
@ghostldr 2 жыл бұрын
I have an inboard electric motor in my 30 ft sailboat (Thunderstruck 10k). Great for getting in and out of marina. No smell and minimal maintenance.
@DrewNorthup
@DrewNorthup 2 жыл бұрын
Solar boats have been a "thing" now for over 30 years, and the majority of that time was using traditional lead-acid batteries. Alas, most people are more impatient than that.
@MYNautiGirl
@MYNautiGirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostldr How do you like the Thunderstruck 10k motor? What kind of displacement does your boat have? I've been eyeing two 12k motor kits from them for my power yacht. Thinking of ditching gas.
@jtstacey83
@jtstacey83 2 жыл бұрын
I think it should be more about retrofitting older boats. The boating industry is much different than the car industry. People will be more likely to change the engine on a boat versus buying a new boat.
@Xonikz
@Xonikz 2 жыл бұрын
It will be. Custom crate motors will absolutely be a market.
@marcopugliese5946
@marcopugliese5946 2 жыл бұрын
@feeshyfeeshy buddy, idk what ur fishing on but anything for offshore fishing is gunna be a boat from the 250k range, while a pair of Suzuki 350s are like 65k total. Every capt ik would rather repower then get a new boat
@jamesdaniel1376
@jamesdaniel1376 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that easy to retrofit battery technology to a boat. Boats are rated at a given displacement meaning that they can only carry so much weight without sinking. Batteries add significant weight to a boat which severely limits the ability to add enough batteries to give you a significant range. That weight also tends to cut down the speed and as the late racer Sterling Moss once said, to add speed, just add lightness to a car. A third problem is that the batteries take up large amounts of space and boats are designed with a premium on the limited space available. Fourth, adding the batteries not only affects the overall weight of the boat, the weight must be distributed appropriately to match the original distribution or the boat won't ride well or handle the same. Then you have the convenience factor. Gas powered boats fuel up in maybe five minutes. Electric batteries take quote a bit longer than that to charge up, generally from 2 hours upward to get a reasonable charge. For a recreational vehicle, losing 2 hours or more out of your day every time your charge is drained is just a wee bit inconvenient.
@miketyson1717
@miketyson1717 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdaniel1376 these problems will or have been solved
@jamesdaniel1376
@jamesdaniel1376 2 жыл бұрын
@@miketyson1717 That is a matter of faith. Reality is that they may or may not be solved. An inconvenient truth is that they have not currently been solved, thus the problems remain for the time being. How about you come back and we can have an adult conversation if and when they solve the problems, not based on your wishful thinking.
@theparamountparamount913
@theparamountparamount913 2 жыл бұрын
I like this segment of CNBC. It tells a great story and advertising the companies behind it at the same time.
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 2 жыл бұрын
Just be careful that the actual facts are not distorted. As with the sales pitch in this video where lots of "facts" are incorrect.
@bigwilderness3006
@bigwilderness3006 2 жыл бұрын
@@grantadamson3478 👍👍👍👍👍
@j.thomas7128
@j.thomas7128 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with companies paying for the production of 'certain' news to promote their products... ... ... ... ... ...
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.thomas7128 So facts don't matter?
@j.thomas7128
@j.thomas7128 2 жыл бұрын
@@grantadamson3478 sarcasm is lost on you
@mistermister2085
@mistermister2085 2 жыл бұрын
Something like a big pontoon boat could have a solar powered roof that would provide shade/rain protection and add power back into the battery. Seems like a win win.
@MYNautiGirl
@MYNautiGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Silent Yachts, they already are building solar catamarans utilizing this setup.
@nautidad
@nautidad 2 жыл бұрын
Would love that idea if solar panels can achieve the needed efficiency. We are not there yet. The amount of panels you would need to match the energy production with use would make that one ugly looking boat. Like the catamaran mentioned below.
@smarkwick7814
@smarkwick7814 2 жыл бұрын
@@nautidad well boats spend a lot of time sitting so could reasonably charge batteries during the week to party on the weekends
@Youbetternowatchthis
@Youbetternowatchthis 2 жыл бұрын
@@smarkwick7814 But to get some proper milage on the ocean you would need massive batteries. It is just not feasable at the moment.
@rh451
@rh451 2 жыл бұрын
@@Youbetternowatchthis Most boaters don’t go miles off shore. Electric boats fit better for lakes and near-shore boaters. But, solar canopies could enable off shore slow cruising. 8 340w panels could produce 2.7kw. That’s plenty to cruise a 30 foot cabin cruiser indefinitely at 5-10 knots. And, it would have plenty of power for short runs, like clearing an inlet.
@stevenirby5576
@stevenirby5576 2 жыл бұрын
A few weeks ago I went on a fjord boat trip in Norway. The boat was a huge brand new all-electric boat. It was an amazing experience! Beautiful scenery but the boat was so smooth and quiet. It made it far more enjoyable to quietly glide in the water without needing wind or sails. Can't for this to become more commonplace.
@tunatic159
@tunatic159 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a great use of the intense Lithium investment, as opposed to people owning a private electric boat when they probably drive a petrol SUV!
@frankmontesonti5969
@frankmontesonti5969 2 жыл бұрын
Fjord, what is that... the Norwegian brand of "Ford"... ha ha... 😂
@andriandrason1318
@andriandrason1318 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankmontesonti5969 Clearly you don't know what a fjord is.
@frankmontesonti5969
@frankmontesonti5969 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you don’t get the joke?
@naclaski99
@naclaski99 4 ай бұрын
@@frankmontesonti5969 Nope, I don't think he got the joke.
@mongke1000
@mongke1000 2 жыл бұрын
Love the synthwave soundtrack on this piece.
@nickwinn
@nickwinn 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the switch to outboards was prompted by emissions control. Instead, it was based on maintenance and replaceability, pulling an inboard is extremely tough and most of the time requires damaging the cap of the boat to get it in and out. Outboard motors aren't an issue, just hook up a hoist, undo 4 - 8 bolts and pull.
@74nova36
@74nova36 2 жыл бұрын
Power to weight ratios come to mind
@74nova36
@74nova36 2 жыл бұрын
That guy sounded ridiculous, I’ve always owned outboards, inboards are incredibly hard to work on. What a jack ass on this video
@russbarrows6689
@russbarrows6689 2 жыл бұрын
You briefly showed a diesel smoke plume from a dragon boat in a Thai floating market. We've been there and it was not something I wanted to repeat. Electric boats would be much better! I do have problem with the concept of a 'sealed' anything. Mechanics will tell you that a sealed transmission for a 'lifetime' in a car usually means a reduced 'lifetime' for the car.
@briansmythe3219
@briansmythe3219 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Thats Also the Future , No Right too Repair your own Goods , he said Just Ring up and a van will come service it for you , Witch Esentually means you Don't own it your just leasing it off A huge Corperation GM You will own nothing but you will be happy LOL
@warrenmatheson563
@warrenmatheson563 2 жыл бұрын
@@briansmythe3219 Then you should rush out and buy a dictionary while can still get one then...
@g00rb4u
@g00rb4u 2 жыл бұрын
Boats are excellent candidates for Vehicle to Grid (V2G) charging.. Sitting at a dock all day, it can charge during peak energy generation times, then pumping it back to the grid in the evening.
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@g00rb4u
@g00rb4u 2 жыл бұрын
@EB Indy Which is a better option a. Having solar farms shut down/curtail during the day due to voltage rise because supply outstrips demand b. Boats that are sitting at a dock doing nothing, soak up that excess energy and then pump it back into the grid, making money from the wholesale electricity price differential?
@lesstevens2370
@lesstevens2370 2 жыл бұрын
@@g00rb4u yeah but then you use up the batteries cycles up then your replacing batteries who pays that cost the batteries most likely have 1500 2500 cycles till it starts degradation
@g00rb4u
@g00rb4u 2 жыл бұрын
@EB Indy you didn't answer my question.
@g00rb4u
@g00rb4u 2 жыл бұрын
the grid pays. Here in AU, I pay wholesale electricity prices. During the day, the price goes as low as 5c/kWh then goes up at dinner time to anywhere as high as 60c. There are more extreme price fluctuations such as negative pricing (paid to consume power) and >$1 during supply shortages. So let's say you control your boat via an app. For the most part, you set it to not charge >80% (for the health of the batteries). Each day it sits and charges when prices are 35c. Even a humble 5kwh a day of exchange, that's $1.25/day or $450/year
@MikeH-sg2ue
@MikeH-sg2ue Жыл бұрын
Great looking boats! More on the way, I’m sure! Keep your smiles on!
@missourimongoose8858
@missourimongoose8858 2 жыл бұрын
I can see weight being a problem for some applications with a electric boat motor but seems pretty cool especially if they incorporate some solar panels to help recharge
@chrissscottt
@chrissscottt 2 жыл бұрын
The best technology for recreational boats is wind power imo.
@davidgribble263
@davidgribble263 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Electric comes from some where ?????? And it is not free. ????? Going up all the time ???????
@neltins5308
@neltins5308 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if wind power boats become more popular & mainstream before electrical cars see widespread adoption
@x6da9crain
@x6da9crain 2 жыл бұрын
boats powered by wind is a job though..full time job. most ppl just wanna be on the lake or ocean and chill
@Groggybandito
@Groggybandito 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgribble263 yeah wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear, lots of cheep harvestable energy
@lllukiosas59
@lllukiosas59 2 жыл бұрын
Aiayyy sailor!
@andyzib
@andyzib 2 жыл бұрын
An electric pontoon seems like the perfect application for the current state of things if you’re in the market for the high end $50,000 - $60,000 boat. If you’re not looking to spend that much, you can have a lot of fun on a very basic pontoon boat with just an electric trolling motor and 30ish HP gasoline outboard. There are so many niches in the world of notating that electrics will fit right in.
@paladain55
@paladain55 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Just order the 100k pontoon and tell them to take the 45k motor off and put the 6k 30hp motor on lol
@abellseaman4114
@abellseaman4114 2 жыл бұрын
Most of those niches occur naturally inside the heads of LIE-berals - it does not seem to hurt them but it does limit their thinking!!!!!!!!!!!! All I have to do is take my canoe out onto any Ontario lake in the early morning and watch the fishermen ripping along at HIGH SPEEDS using their gas motors until they reach some fishing hole and then they use their electric motors to sneak up on the fish!!!!!!!!!! WHY does a fisherman need a boat that can travel at 60mph??? Are they afraid all the fish will escape????????????? LIE-berals ENJOY harassing ICE car owners but they are CURIOUSLY SILENT about the amount of fossil fuel consumed in a summer by boaters - but then so many cottage owners are civil servants that LIE-berals refuse to bite the hand that feed them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for those fishermen who want to troll deep waters for extended periods - THEIR CHOICE IS ALWAYS A SMALL GAS MOTOR - roughly 5 horsepower - which will be used INSTEAD of the 200 horsepower behemoth till the fishing is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And in related news - LIE-berals EXPOSE THEIR HYPOCRISY YET AGAIN by whining about "subsidies" given to fossil fuel industry - and yet LIE-berals HAVE NO PROBLEM OFFERING ALL MANNER OF AID TO AIRLINES!!!!!!!!!!!! The LIE-beral hypocrite view of fossil fuel is regulated according to whether or not LIE-berals USE the fuel for a specific purpose!!!!!!!!!! This is why LIE-berals disdain US for using fossil fuel to heat our homes and to travel to work - yet LIE-berals see NOTHING WRONG with THEIR USE OF FOSSIL FUEL FOR THE SAME PURPOSES!!!!!!!!!
@shepherdsknoll
@shepherdsknoll 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe GM will have better luck with electric boats.
@abellseaman4114
@abellseaman4114 2 жыл бұрын
@@shepherdsknoll HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I WOULD NOT COUNT ON GM STOCK GOING UP THANKS TO ELECTRIC TOY BOAT SALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boats are a LUXURY ITEM in a world were most people are worried about paying for food and rent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By comparison a LOT MORE PEOPLE NEED A CAR to get to work than there are people who need a boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If GM cannot make a profit in the MUCH LARGER CAR INDUSTRY - then their chances of making a profit in the much SMALLER boat biz look DISMAL indeed!!!!!!!!!!
@TheHopetown
@TheHopetown 2 жыл бұрын
@@shepherdsknoll I doubt it.
@willweaver5024
@willweaver5024 2 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few electric narrowboats on the canals in the UK. Mothership even makes a solar powered electric narrowboat. Catalina 30' sailboats can be had with electric motors.
@Da89soup
@Da89soup 2 жыл бұрын
I am fascinated with the idea of electric boats. What I am not fascinated with is anything that has to do with GM.
@gregcavanaugh6259
@gregcavanaugh6259 2 жыл бұрын
If you live on a lake, an electric boat means no more hauling jerry cans down your lawn. And, unlike cars with range anxiety and every day use, boats often get used for similar time durations. So for instance, your friends show up, "lets go for a boat ride," you go out on the lake for an hour, then you come back. Its not like it needs to charge fast so you can get right back out there. (That might be true for like a ski boat, but generally, it seems like the perfect use case.) Also, since boats often have to be winterized and that's when they sit and start having issues, an electric boat will likely be considerably more reliable over the years.
@AlexanderZapataIndividual
@AlexanderZapataIndividual 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are late for the cars.
@ricnyc2759
@ricnyc2759 2 жыл бұрын
You stole my post. :(
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
Elon started all this, without a doubt. If not, it would still be way behind in investors and brains.
@IshayBen92
@IshayBen92 2 жыл бұрын
There is a company called Torqeedo that you didn't mention, but they are producing electric boat engines since 2005. and today they are the market leader in Europe.
@robboyce6636
@robboyce6636 2 жыл бұрын
1. I don’t want a pontoon boat. 2. I own a 21 ft bow rider (stern drive). I paid $23,000 for a 10 year old boat that only had 250 hours on the boat. I have zero interest in spending $300K on a boat. That would be financially irresponsible. 3. I want a boat that can handily pull a water skier or wake boarder or inner tube. Maybe an electric boat can do this job well. I don’t know. But I didn’t hear them talk about that. Boats are for recreation, not just sitting on them and doing nothing. If they didn’t specifically talk about the recreational use of boats (water skiing and wakeboarding) that means that they DON’T have a good answer for this. If they did have a good answer then that would have been a major part of the story. 4. When you have a family, you have multiple groups that will use the boat in any given day. A family of four means two kids use the boat with their friends individually from their siblings. Then mom and dad want to use it. Buy the time mom and dad get to it, there is no charge left in the batteries and it will take hours to recharge. No thank you. I am not interested in that. With gasoline, we pull up to the fuel dock and fill it up in 5 minutes. 5. I mentioned above that I paid $23,000 for a very good used boat. I did also pay $750 to fix a couple of things. If I were to buy a used 10 year old electric boat, that would mean that the batteries would need to be replaced costing a ton of money (thousands of dollars I am sure-probably more than $23K). Again, it is too expensive. 6. When you replace the batteries or dump the boat because it is at the end of its life, there is now the horrible environmental impact of getting rid of the batteries, probably at another high cost to the owner. No thank you. Not a responsible way to spend my money. 7. The media talks a mean story about electrifying. Well, the infrastructure in the USA is not set up for this. And the first thing the government will say is, “hey boaters, we can’t make enough electricity to power America so all boaters are not allowed to charge your boat this month. That is unacceptable. But hey, if AOC wants to charge her boat when others are not allowed to, that will be OK. She is a hypocrite. Again, this story didn’t talk about all these issues I bring up. That’s because they only want to bring out the sunny side of this story. They NEVER EVER talk about the bad part of electrifying.
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 2 жыл бұрын
Preach on my brother.... Everybody's got a one track mind about going electric but they never think about the cons of doing so we don't have the infrastructure they haven't brought the price down on EVS now you want me to spend 300K on a damn boat hell I can't even swim LOL.... I'm still waiting on the price of EVS to go down in the range to go up... I think it's nothing more than a money grab so opportunity to charge more than you would necessarily charge for the same products simply because they're electric...
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 2 жыл бұрын
Your use case is not a good electric candidate (big, go fast, use rarely). I want small, light, go anywhere, go far, so solar electric is a great development. BTW -batteries are the expensive part, but they can be used to power your home when not powering the boat.
@OneNewHope
@OneNewHope 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the younger generation isn't buying boats because we know it's famously a terrible financial decision... not that we only want electric things...
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@coltonk7222
@coltonk7222 2 жыл бұрын
The younger generation, who famously only make great financial decisions.
@mytruthbekind5793
@mytruthbekind5793 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltonk7222 Considering all the things working against them, they are doing great. They also are grounded. I think they have a lot of potential. They see right through dysfunction and outright stupidity. I fully support them. Gen X. Work hard. Work smart. Fight fair. Be humble. Be grateful. Recognize our obligations for the gifts we have been given. Be kind. Be wise.
@jcgw2
@jcgw2 2 жыл бұрын
It is allso a matter of opportunity. If you live in a waterfron property and have accses to a boat slip. A boat becomes more alot more appealing
@OneNewHope
@OneNewHope 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltonk7222 Old people seem to have a near-monopoly on reverse mortgages, buying junk on the shopping channel, and email scams... Oh, and timeshares.
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 2 жыл бұрын
It's really a pleasure to listen to people who know their stuff like the gm lady.. Most companies would charge someone's of the marketing div to do those interviews
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 2 жыл бұрын
She's a PR script reader. I think it's even in her job title.
@JesterRace139
@JesterRace139 2 жыл бұрын
5:39 simply amazing how it cuts through the glass like that
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 2 жыл бұрын
Im really surprised we haven't seen hybrid container ships. Using a battery to help even out engird consumption, and using more efficient ways to generate the power on board rather than just running a humungous engine all the time..
@leesmith5198
@leesmith5198 2 жыл бұрын
Most if not all container ships are "hybrid" like this. The engine is only a generator to run the rotor. Their engines are upto 50 percent compared to a measly 25-35 percent of the most efficient industry leading car engines. They run at 100 rpm instead of the 1000s of rpm of smaller engines. They already do that.
@ElAteoMexicano
@ElAteoMexicano 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that large container ships and cruise ships would be ripe for disruption with small modular nuclear reactors. I think the roadblocks to this happening are more political than technological, but considering the cost of petroleum and how much petroleum a cruise ship uses, I would think a nuclear powered cruise ship could operate a lot cheaper.
@BangBangBang.
@BangBangBang. 2 жыл бұрын
You've probably never been on a large ship and are grasping with your feelings. With a container ship, everything is about every square inch. You cannot put large batteries on a ship and expect to turn a profit. On a small barge or a smaller container ship going a short distance? Sure. But why would you encourage dangerous lithium to be on a ship when water and lithium do not mix?
@Xcerptshow
@Xcerptshow 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm...container ships dont even burn the low sulfur fuel(they carry like 3 different types of fuel) when in open sea to save money. Do you think they are going to mix in electric on a mass scale? They will test stuff(I think there is a prototype one built with special cylindrical wind mills on it), but until battery energy density raises significantly(no time soon) it is just a fantasy.
@leadfoot8593
@leadfoot8593 2 жыл бұрын
Batteries don't need to be much bigger than a fuel tank the problem with cars is that they weigh the same when they're empty.
@emoney822
@emoney822 10 ай бұрын
Lithium recycling batteries will be huge
@djp1234
@djp1234 2 жыл бұрын
As a millenial, I can't even buy an electric car because I have nowhere to charge it. Can't afford a house, so I have to burn fossil fuels.
@docksidemarine4273
@docksidemarine4273 2 жыл бұрын
you will be burning fossil fuels for the rest of your life.
@seybertooth9282
@seybertooth9282 2 жыл бұрын
Try living in a civilized country, then you can charge it everywhere.
@twinturbo9113
@twinturbo9113 2 жыл бұрын
Dude there’s literally chargers for cars in every country in the developed world. Wtf are you talking about.
@kabysummit5801
@kabysummit5801 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Please bring down the prices.
@sensor6101
@sensor6101 2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage. I’m on year 14 with an electric inboard on my 27’ sailboat. I wouldn’t have it any other way!
@Reciprocity_Soils
@Reciprocity_Soils 2 жыл бұрын
Tell us more. That sounds like an excellent combo system.
@homerjon
@homerjon 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite things, high voltage electricity and water.
@Fj4LiFe23
@Fj4LiFe23 2 жыл бұрын
its not like boats aren't already full of electronics
@seybertooth9282
@seybertooth9282 2 жыл бұрын
Why does this stupid argument always come up with EVs from people with zero clue? It's just like how everyone whined about electric cars and "exploding batteries" except you know, they don't. Electric equipment and water is no problem at all, ask your local heavy diver about welding underwater.
@icephoenix5466
@icephoenix5466 2 жыл бұрын
Ev and this create solutions to no problem but challenge us to find solutions for batteries
@beautyofgrace3915
@beautyofgrace3915 2 жыл бұрын
So cool! I'm thinking about getting their bolt!
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@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@Boxagami
@Boxagami 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe after the recalls end you should.
@heesanoice7637
@heesanoice7637 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering when we’d see this. A pontoon that San cruise straight up for 3-4 hours would do nicely for most family lake play days. My current boat has a Merc 5.7 , which is basically a Chevy 350. Even when I’m out on the lake with friends all day long I barely go over one hour of actual cruising , and our lake is 22,500 acres. I’d be down for giving an electric pontoon boat a try. Just gotta get the cost down first.
@iamdanielrobles
@iamdanielrobles 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very cool to see GM stepping up to be helpful (obviously in hopes of gain) but could you imagine how much easier Tesla could’ve got going with that kind of attentiveness
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 2 жыл бұрын
The globalists don't like Tesla right now. Kind of like way back when....the original Tesla wasn't liked by globalists back then either.
@drums25K
@drums25K 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla mega packs? Expanding into semis? Are you living under a rock lol
@jeremypilot1015
@jeremypilot1015 2 жыл бұрын
GM will screw it up just like they did with the new Blazer they can barely sell. No one wanted an AWD wagon they wanted a big V8 powered huge tired off-roader like they used to make., To prove the point, The Grand Wagoneer outsold the Escalade, the Bronco outsold the Blazer and almost tied with Jeep. People don't want this stuff, we want big V8s and a giant straw drilled into America, Let's go Brandon.
@BenDover-wm7wf
@BenDover-wm7wf 2 жыл бұрын
GM will screw it up like they did with the Volt electric car decades ago. They didn’t just drop the ball-they colluded with big oil to bury the electric car they developed back then.
@alexanderx33
@alexanderx33 2 жыл бұрын
You think you get range anxiety in a car. Try on the ocean! Coast guard is going to get sick of towing electric boats.
@TheShowerofSlime
@TheShowerofSlime 2 жыл бұрын
Now that he mentioned it, I just realized the reason I don't like going on boats was the noise. I cannot wait for the day I hop into an electric boat.
@BangBangBang.
@BangBangBang. 2 жыл бұрын
wow bro, life is rough for you
@seancasey9891
@seancasey9891 2 жыл бұрын
They've made these really cool ones for 100's of years called, Sail Boats. Super quit 😉
@xavierd3298
@xavierd3298 2 жыл бұрын
The new out boards are less noisy and more reliable yes those old gas guzzling outboards are a damn nuisance. They even spill gas every where .
@jordandayman1356
@jordandayman1356 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an electric bass boat but I think that is a long way off. The weight of the battery or batteries necessary to supply 75hp or more would make the boat too heavy. Not to mention the possibility of running out od charge could be dangerous in a boat. You can always bring jerry cans with gas as an emergency fuel supply. In an electric boat you would be hooped.
@TwoBlueScrews
@TwoBlueScrews 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, you can bring extra battery packs in the purewatercraft outboards
@florianhoflehner2877
@florianhoflehner2877 2 жыл бұрын
Big problem with those type of systems is the weight and purchase cost... Just bought a 5.5m boat with a 115hp engine for 35k. the electric engine and battery alone for that kind of horsepower would set me back 100k. the battery would then be so heavy, it would exceed the maximum load on the boat. Also, range would be decreased by as much as 70 %... Planes and Fast boats are unfortunately better off with traditional engines until we can find a good solution to replace the heavy batteries
@death2pc
@death2pc 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO ! This whole EV thing is such evil left wing totalitarianism......... The projection is supposedly "clean". But it is NOT! And dear god, the cost..... Not just purchase price but operational cost. It's one big leftist LIE.
@andyjohnson3790
@andyjohnson3790 2 жыл бұрын
All start ups technologies cost more when first starting out. Even the Prius was expensive when it first came out over 20 years ago and now it costs the same as other cars but just gets almost double the MPGs.
@hmbro3236
@hmbro3236 2 жыл бұрын
That's just with current battery technology which mainly relies on lithium cobalt. There are plenty of other battery solutions being made that are much lighter and theoretically have higher energy density. Not to mention for LARGE vessels the future is going to be hydrogen or biofuel. Beoing and Airbus are already working on developing hydrogen powered planes and biofuel powered planes. Then if we ever get fusion energy down and can some how turn in into a compact form then that would power cargo ships.
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen an eliminator with huge motor, like on drag cars, I actually rode in it. I will never ever take a ride like that again! Very scary
@TheHopetown
@TheHopetown 2 жыл бұрын
SHHHH logic ruins the lefty narrative, they like em smooth-brained.
@karlmahlmann
@karlmahlmann 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of companies working with solar / electric and also diesel /electric hybrids. At the high-end there is a cool company called Silent Yachts.
@ALROD
@ALROD 2 жыл бұрын
Many things are becoming electric now, and it begs the question: what about what these batteries might produce when they can't be used anymore? Is there something that can be reused? Honest question here.
@brucec954
@brucec954 2 жыл бұрын
Large batteries (EV's, boats etc) after 2nd life in stationary storage will get recycled as the battery materials are valuable. There are already companies gearing up for this (Redwood Materials for example). These batteries are not the same as phone or other small disposable batteries that are not worth recycling even though they could be.
@goodboid
@goodboid 2 жыл бұрын
90% of the material in these kinds of batteries are recyclable. I think this channel did an episode on battery recycling.
@andyjohnson3790
@andyjohnson3790 2 жыл бұрын
All batteries are recyable, and when using the hydrometallurgical process more than 90% of the elements can be recovered for reuse in new batteries. Large batteries such as EVs, grid storage etc will have a high recycling rate, but small electronics such as power tools, phones, toys is another story since the average person is absolutely horrible at recycling even if they have curbside pickup. Li-Cycle (LICY) currently is North Americas largest lithium battery recycler and should be very big in the future so buy your stock now while it's cheap. ♻️💵♻️🤑♻️✌️
@andyjohnson3790
@andyjohnson3790 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucec954 what??? Small batteries not worth recycling. That's a complete lie.
@brucec954
@brucec954 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyjohnson3790 Just saying that most consumers don't bother
@gregelston3388
@gregelston3388 2 жыл бұрын
I just got done building a solar electric pontoon. It's a lot slower than that, but it works for me.
@JoeRogansGutBiome
@JoeRogansGutBiome 2 жыл бұрын
With these prices of these boats. The only motornoating I am going to be doing is my wife's water bags.
@tbray
@tbray 2 жыл бұрын
Who Framed Roger Rabbit was quietly about how GM dismantled electric trams/streetcars and forced their replacement with gas powered transit. The irony is clearly lost on them, I'm assuming.
@cccharlie1972
@cccharlie1972 2 жыл бұрын
Large marine vessels will use liquid hydrogen. So will smaller vessels that need long range. Batteries may be good enough for poking around on small lakes. This will work well with GM's HydroTec Fuel Cell products.
@AccountantByDay553
@AccountantByDay553 2 жыл бұрын
"400 watts about 4 old light bulbs" - buddy needs to learn how to math because those bulbs were about 40 watts and 4 times 40 is 160 NOT 400 LOL
@chomihai
@chomihai 2 жыл бұрын
More money to be made?
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@FFE-js2zp
@FFE-js2zp 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Boeing tried to get into off-road vehicles with the Phantom Badger, after when they unrecoverably screwed-up the V-22. Didn’t work.
@alparslankorkmaz2964
@alparslankorkmaz2964 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@Reciprocity_Soils
@Reciprocity_Soils 2 жыл бұрын
Let's replace all those small engines with electric systems. Marvelous useful tech and collaboration. One minute into the video, we see a small canal of what could be tourists in a SE Asian nation while the narrator states that "Boats and the engines they use can be big polluters." We know this. We are with you. We want to overcome reliance on the traditional gas-powered boat. Many small boat owners and operators, as depicted in that scene at 1:04, cannot afford a $50,000, $100,000 or $300,000+ boat. As much of the video extolls the virtue of reducing pollution and making more peaceful waterways, we can best do that by replacing all those small gas-powered, stern-drive engines with electric systems. And to do that, we need small affordable electric systems below the $10,000 or $5,000 mark.
@BeastOrGod
@BeastOrGod 2 жыл бұрын
Younger generation isn't buying boat BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOMES TO BEGIN WITH.
@bvrsqzr3569
@bvrsqzr3569 2 жыл бұрын
They could if they'd work but they're to good for work.
@BeastOrGod
@BeastOrGod 2 жыл бұрын
@@bvrsqzr3569 pfff, being hired by your dad doesn't count.
@Geo.StoryMaps
@Geo.StoryMaps 2 жыл бұрын
We can have a boat and motor home lol🥲
@AmazonWebService98
@AmazonWebService98 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeastOrGod kek I bought 2 brand new boats last year . And a brand new truck this year. Yall just lazy why do foreigners coming into the US be so successful when making a company ?
@drkobe79
@drkobe79 2 жыл бұрын
Can't get cars right, but now let's get into boats. Begging to go bankrupt
@603outdoors7
@603outdoors7 2 жыл бұрын
It will work for some applications but it will be many years before they are able to meet the demands of a recreational boater. When your at the lake house for the weekend and you have to tell the kids that they are done tubing for the day because the boat has to charge....I don't think so.
@oneone8318
@oneone8318 2 жыл бұрын
Why is CNBC making these long advertisements?
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
Truly the future.
@mickwest7918
@mickwest7918 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect - Now all you need is a good battery.
@lurkingarachnid7475
@lurkingarachnid7475 2 жыл бұрын
GM makes horrendous electric vehicles
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@oxide9717
@oxide9717 2 жыл бұрын
That's why they're making electric boat 😂😂😂😂 Yes I know boat are classified as vehicles I'm not stupid.
@dertythegrower
@dertythegrower 2 жыл бұрын
You could say the same thing about Tesla generation 1 of theirs... first generation is always give and take, but then the cons are worked out and the price is lowered in gen two.
@gmv0553
@gmv0553 2 жыл бұрын
The,Bolt is one of the most efficient evs produced today!
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta start somewhere. They will get better over time
@mr.fahrenheit7009
@mr.fahrenheit7009 2 жыл бұрын
Ok why do all electric vehicles have to look futeristic like just make it look normal
@jboy2621
@jboy2621 2 жыл бұрын
We use electric fishing boats all the time at Livermore Lake. It's all that's available for renting.
@fuzzjunky
@fuzzjunky 2 жыл бұрын
it suits that purpose perfectly. being silent and stealthy
@Onsanio
@Onsanio 2 жыл бұрын
Now the boat with the BMWi3 battery is the boat everyone on a kayak or canoe wants to see as they're relaxing on the water or just fishing
@publicspeaker4009
@publicspeaker4009 2 жыл бұрын
i think ill stick with my gas powered phone i don't trust electric phones
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@cyberoptic5757
@cyberoptic5757 2 жыл бұрын
good!
@publicspeaker4009
@publicspeaker4009 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberoptic5757 it’s sarcasm by the way
@RobbsHomemadeLife
@RobbsHomemadeLife 2 жыл бұрын
Here is where they're missing the boat. What the average boat owner needs is a boat they can put on a trailer and keep at home and let the sun charge up the batteries for six days and then if they want to go fishing on Saturday or Sunday they don't have to buy any gasoline in the batteries are all charged up and they just take it out to go fishing for a few hours come home to leave it on the trailer and repeat. You don't need to make a $300,000 electric boat. You need is $3000 boat a person can take out on the lake or the river for a few hours and come home and sit on the trailer while it's charging up batteries for another couple of weeks. Combine the dependability of the electric motor and the reduction in maintenance and gasoline and you could sell a million of them.
@wm66
@wm66 2 жыл бұрын
I think we need to do so much more to improve the environment. However, I think we need to be honest in looking at the entire Carbon footprint. e.g. stating these are zero emissions water craft is misleading, in that electricity, batteries, transmission lines, manufacturing, etc... leave a carbon footprint .
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 2 жыл бұрын
lol there is and never will be such a thing as free energy unless some miraculous pipe dream like fusion becomes a reality, but we will all be dead most likely by then
@Childrensstorychannel
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@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
A huge carbon footprint.
@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
@martin barlow and that is all that matters. All those poor minority people living around the coal power plant don't matter. Why don't you worry about them? Almost sounds like you are a elitist and a racist person.
@johnnymissfire8464
@johnnymissfire8464 2 жыл бұрын
@martin barlow have you ever seen what mining does to the watershed around it?
@lukerabin5079
@lukerabin5079 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that your shot of a congested waterway is from the backwaters of the Chao Phraya river in Bangkok, Thailand which has already started to implement electric powered transport vessels, whereas, Sydney, a much more “Developed” city, hasn’t announced any plans to do the same.
@patsgarage8593
@patsgarage8593 2 жыл бұрын
Their claim of no maintenance is wrong. Every battery has a shelf life and battery replacements are in the thousands of dollars. Not to mention we are under a world wide shortage of aluminum and other strip mined materials which is leading to a battery shortage on top of the chip shortage we are already facing. Huge no to these boats
@Childrensstorychannel
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@dankarau2307
@dankarau2307 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla has vehicles on the road with over 400K miles with zero need to replace batteries. No ICE vehicles can reach 400K miles without a major (costly) rebuild or two. New battery technology can achieve 1M miles.
@andycoldwell7345
@andycoldwell7345 2 жыл бұрын
In the northern US, lakes freeze in the winter. How about a swappable battery pack module with snowmobiles or ATVs to get some year-round use and not lose life on the shelf?
@ChAnimations
@ChAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
another idea would be an electric boat with hydrofoils for the summer, that can be replaced with skis and tracks for the winter
@ginahasa6312
@ginahasa6312 2 жыл бұрын
Smart move GM, if the boat engulfed in flames, water is readily available to put out the fire.
@yanassi
@yanassi 4 ай бұрын
Please make a solar eboat. A full canopy coastal cabin cruiser like a saxdor, axopar, etc for comfort and limitless range. Enclosed mid cabin, 2 berths, galley, head …competes with sailing boats at 9-12 knots. Forget speed and planing, do 45mph and then 30 miles or an hour later go home is not cruising.
@ilikeantea
@ilikeantea 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah pollution is an issue, but that's like one of the last reasons you should go electric. 90% of a combustion engines power is lost in a boat. Maintenance is expensive and tedious, engines are expensive and loud, require lots of oil and parts. Diesel on water is expensive AF, and these engines use a lot for short distances. Combustion engines can't get any more cheaper. The list can go on, solar sail or tiles can charge batteries, you can save a fortune going electric. The only issue is weight and drag, when electric boats will be mainstream, most probably light aviation will be the next big thing to go electric.
@Childrensstorychannel
@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 2 жыл бұрын
There are other issues like power output vs ICE engines and things like that. Range. Batteries being submerged in water if a boat sinks, or batteries exploding from erosion or being damaged. Its not quite that simple
@docksidemarine4273
@docksidemarine4273 2 жыл бұрын
the only flaw in that logic is i can spend alot of money on gas (like a lifetime worth) for the price of a new ev boat. so theres no money saved going electric. your not far off the efficiency numbers for an engine but do you know the efficiency of turning coal to heat, to produce steam, to turn a generator, then power thru a power line, thru transformers and into your boat charger? because lets remember your little solar panel on the dock will take a month to charge your huge ev batteries. your gonna have to use grid power for that. so you have just transfered pollution not eliminated it. as far as costs, im a marine mechanic, i fix boats for a living. parts are pertty cheap and easy to find. fuel is everywhere. how bout the ev? where you gonna find parts for that? dont recall seeing any on water charging stations either (somthing about water and hydro dont seem to mix). that said im all for ev boats. i think the little dingys that putt around the marina could be ev. or short distance ferries ect. but the ev thing just isnt there yet for "everything" to be electric. otherwise it would have already been done. gas and diesel arent going anywhere anytime soon
@ilikeantea
@ilikeantea 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmm-mmm Hei, in 10 years batteries will be much more affordable. Look at how the price went down in the last 10 years. As a point of reference, check out people putting new, better, bigger, cheaper than OEM batteries in Nissan Leafs. In 10 years we will be experts at sourcing materials, building batteries and recycling them. It's all good.
@patrick247two
@patrick247two 2 жыл бұрын
Trolling for trout would become a pleasant experience.
@taylormurphy2551
@taylormurphy2551 2 жыл бұрын
How did this report miss Silent Yachts? They're already selling full sized, solar powered, modern looking Yachts! How cool is that?
@lesstevens2370
@lesstevens2370 2 жыл бұрын
Because it was paid for by gm
@taylormurphy2551
@taylormurphy2551 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesstevens2370 Ah good point. Didn't think about that.
@LaJuanHughes
@LaJuanHughes 2 жыл бұрын
It takes the attention away from GM EV car sales.
@LaJuanHughes
@LaJuanHughes 2 жыл бұрын
It takes the attention away from GM EV car sales.
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 2 жыл бұрын
Silent yachts have generator backups, they are all well over $1mill price, and there is no mass market product, or massive investment by a public company. I agree, silent yachts are a cool product, but not an important CNBC story. Besides, all the tesla trolls come out to spread lies every time GM is mentioned!
@aliciafaulkner416
@aliciafaulkner416 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, "density is up 7%, cost is down 7% a year", the last part he didn't mention is that their goal is to see density 500% than today and cost is down 90% than today. Which will take 100 years with current trend.
@RoyDurett
@RoyDurett 2 жыл бұрын
the prices on these products are nuts 16-25k for a 50hp outboard motor lol $300,000 for a boat with 4 hours of cruise time at 40mph.
@BryceGarling
@BryceGarling 2 жыл бұрын
It's called an electric trolling moror and it has been around forever. use 2 and you move pretty good and you can get them at walmart.
@AmericanConstellation
@AmericanConstellation 2 жыл бұрын
I've had boats for over 50 years. Salt water and electricity does not mix well. Salt water is a great conductor of electricity. What could possibly go wrong? Zap! I'll take my Yamaha 200 two stroke all day. It's on a Grady White boat. It holds 90 gallons of gas and has a range of about 200 miles. I don't want an electric boat that can only last 4 hours. When I got out, it could be for days.
@gmv0553
@gmv0553 2 жыл бұрын
Gasoline boats are a great hobby! You are always working on them!
@andrew_elm6863
@andrew_elm6863 2 жыл бұрын
POV you sink and all the sudden all the fish start floating up 😂😂
@yulmp2
@yulmp2 2 жыл бұрын
Only GM would bet millions on boats just before a recession.
@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
I see another government bailout coming.
@gmv0553
@gmv0553 2 жыл бұрын
Recessions do not last forever!
@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmv0553 not when there's always a government bailout.
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 2 жыл бұрын
@@tira2145 they are the bank!
@markcampbell7577
@markcampbell7577 2 жыл бұрын
Carry a generator and if you use batteries use nontoxic materials. If you looked closely there is very little improvement from toxic materials. You can get more capacity from more liquid and less toxic materials. Carry an edison generator and navigate an unlimited range electric yacht.
@SaltySparrow
@SaltySparrow 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to buy one of these instead of a gas one
@tira2145
@tira2145 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you want a coal powered boat? That is at least a hundred year old technology. Gas is so much cleaner.
@bradkuether3561
@bradkuether3561 2 жыл бұрын
And when your boat runs out of "green energy" you can sit and wallow on the water on a hot day, "wishing" you had some "real fuel" to get you back to dock. Maybe I will throw you a water if you're thirsty, but otherwise sorry, you signed up for it, you will have to live with it. Towing companies are going to LOVE you.
@dankarau2307
@dankarau2307 2 жыл бұрын
How many "extra" gallons of gas do you carry now? This argument is stupid, and was also spouted when the horse was replaced by ICE.
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 2 жыл бұрын
@@dankarau2307 it was not replaced with ice. It was hemp oil in the United States. But more $$ to be made with ice. And they wanted no competition. Plus got it outlawed.
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t buy a gas powered boat because of the noise and maintenance and reliability. So I have canoes, and will soon have a kayak. This CEO has clearly learned to speak well and push his agenda, but he made a common mistake. He’s alienating the people he needs to convert. No one switched to outboard motors because they wanted to pollute. They switched to save money and avoid untried engines. GM is certainly NOT doing this for the environment, btw. Companies that wanted to convert GM engines for aviation use have all been told “NO WAY” which is one reason for light aircraft mostly using antique engines which require leaded fuel.
@andyrebele5452
@andyrebele5452 2 жыл бұрын
If we could convince everyone to use canoes, kayaks, and my own personal favorite, rowing shells, there would be no need for this. But 70,000 people are buying pontoon boats this year in the US alone. As you said, no one is looking to pollute, but it's the effect they're having. We're providing a way to have more fun on the water with much less environmental impact. If we don't do this, then as boating booms (and it is booming), it will get harder and harder to preserve the outdoors for future generations.
@kevobuddy10
@kevobuddy10 2 жыл бұрын
GM is going make money regardless so why not let them be more environmentally friendly while theyre at it. Stop being a commie
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyrebele5452 That’s all good, Andy, but we could use “less us vs them”, not more. The people switching to outboards responded to the regulation quite rationally. Making it sound like they chose for nefarious, or even just bad reasons, is the sort of stuff we need less of because it creates backlash. How many of those people would have chosen an electric conversion if it were available and seemed like a good choice? When playing at the top tier, there’s an expectation of choosing words carefully. If you want to sell electric boats, much of the potential market is present boat owners. Pushing them so that they defend themselves isn’t going to help. Finally, I suspect the worse threat to our waters is invasive species, not gasoline. Are these new boats designed to avoid that?
@razzlekhan292
@razzlekhan292 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your canoe Tonto. I will be whizzing by you at 1000 Watts!
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 2 жыл бұрын
@@razzlekhan292 Just try not to tip me over, and enjoy. 👍
@battlehymn6389
@battlehymn6389 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with electric boats is range. Unless you have a robust onboard charging system electrics are very range limited, this is somewhat OK in a car ... not so much for a boat. These particular motors are far less powerful then comparable gas or diesel ... ~24MPH, and if you cruise anywhere near that top end the battery drains FAST. Add any electrical/electronic systems (stereo, radar, chartplotter, lights, etc.) and that is a further drain on the battery. This tech isn't nearly mature yet but it is worthwhile as long as you understand the trade-offs. Would really like to see what could be done with a hydrogen fuel cell.
@seancasey9891
@seancasey9891 2 жыл бұрын
Go buy a sail boat if you want something quit and environmentally friendly. All this electric talk is still so far off from being realistic or affordable in an equal ICE application. The specs they are currently throwing out are dreadful and a long way off from what would be needed to move 3/4's of the boats on any large lake.
@frostman9661
@frostman9661 2 жыл бұрын
The guy said so many times that it's not there yet... He said it's still too expensive and not good enough for mass adoption. That's whole point of this stuff. When ice cars first rolled off the line most people still preferred horses. We are still in the 1920s of electric vehicles but will rapidly become better. Even now electric is far superior to gas in nearly every single metric aside from charging times (30minutes vs 5 minute gas fill up)
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 2 жыл бұрын
A sail is vastly superior if you consider the power you get and the cost compared to electric. But if you consider human need to show off how rich they are, and how a sail might embarrass someone without a large amount of knowledge and the right weather, I think there will be a market for these electric boats.
@Trev625
@Trev625 2 жыл бұрын
Seems good for people who have a ton of money but my HOA doesn't allow me to keep my boat at my house so I have to keep it stored somewhere. There are almost no places that have electricity where it's stored and on the water storage is extremely expensive. I guess I'll have to wait until so many people have electric boats instead of gas that the storage places basically have to come with electricity.
@Nadhriq00
@Nadhriq00 2 жыл бұрын
Boat CEO : "boats for connecting with nature and connecting with friends" Me earning min wage: I agree.
@sidekickmusic5936
@sidekickmusic5936 2 жыл бұрын
Boat that goes out of the water is amazing. Also much better for lake / river banks and fauna because of less wave erosion.
@FFE-js2zp
@FFE-js2zp 2 жыл бұрын
Electric vehicles have “zero TAILPIPE emissions” but system level emissions is waaay higher than gasoline.
@seybertooth9282
@seybertooth9282 2 жыл бұрын
"system level emissions is waaay higher than gasoline" No they aren't. They never where, but for some reason this ten thousand time debunked nonsense just keep being regurgitated by EV-hating ignoramuses.
@FFE-js2zp
@FFE-js2zp 2 жыл бұрын
@@seybertooth9282 It’s probably because the EPA says so to push Made in China LED lightbulbs. “Every 25W saved by an American household saves the emissions of 800,000 cars.” EVs are 600,000 to 1,000,000 Watt appliances. If everyone bought just one EV, that’s the equivalent of adding 20 billion gasoline cars emissions, just to account for America which is 4% of the population.
@808zhu
@808zhu 2 жыл бұрын
END OIL USE
@Nathan-gj8ch
@Nathan-gj8ch 2 жыл бұрын
nevermind the fact that electric is about $0.35 per Kw/H at the dock, normally 3x normal rate
@adjutant
@adjutant 2 жыл бұрын
that x shore boat looks really cool
@brentmeg922
@brentmeg922 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of electric boats for quietness. As far as advertising that it is more environmentally friendly is total BS. The strip mining alone to keep up with increased battery material demand is no more environmentally friendly than burning fossil fuels.
@a11u45
@a11u45 2 жыл бұрын
Strip mining doesn't do wonders for the environment as it can erode soil and pollute water, but it released less CO2 that burning petrol does, so environmentally, it is preferable to petrol boats.
@daydreamer8373
@daydreamer8373 2 жыл бұрын
You act as if mining is a new thing. We have been doing it for centuries. And it will come nowhere close to the damage done by fossil fuels.
@brentmeg922
@brentmeg922 2 жыл бұрын
@@daydreamer8373 Please provide me the data that proves that burning fossil fuels is more harmful to the environment than strip mining. Also, where is the increased electricity coming from to charge all these additional batteries. How about the plastic casings to hold the lithium in the batteries? In case you think I work for the fossil fuel industry, think again. I am a geologist majored in environmental science
@daydreamer8373
@daydreamer8373 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentmeg922 Climate change, look it up.
@brentmeg922
@brentmeg922 2 жыл бұрын
@@daydreamer8373 I study climate change for a living, do you?
@vids595
@vids595 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming just like electric cars, they have horrible range and the cost of purchase+ownership is unaffordance for most people.
@anglosaxonmike8325
@anglosaxonmike8325 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is catching alight! EV's with safety recalls for fire. Renault Zoe, Peugeot-e, BMW i4, Mercedes C class, Mercedes EQS, Mercedes GLC, Mercedes S class, Ford Focus, Chevrolet Bolt, Hyundai Ioniq, DS7 Crossback, Hyundai Kona, Mercedes EQC, VW Arteon ehybrid, VW Passat GTE, Ford Focus mHEV, Ford Puma mHEV, Ford Fiesta mHEV, Opel Ampera e, Mercedes eSprinter, Skoda Citygo e, Mercedes eVito, VWeUP, Seat Mini electric, Mini Country PHEV, BMWi8, BMWX5PHV, BMW X3 PHEV,BMW X2 PHEV, BMW X1 PHEV, BMW 7 series PHEV, BMW 5 series PHEV, BMW 3 series PHEV, BMW 2 series active tourer, Land Rover Discovery Sport PHEV, Land Rover Evoque MHEV, Hyundai Kauai, Audi A4, Audi A 5, Audi A 6, Audi A7, Audi Q5, Ford Puma MHEV, Ford Kuga MHEV, Renault Zoe, Audi eTron, Not the full list, more are added every week.
@robertm2172
@robertm2172 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to pry my dead cold fingers of my GM powered 502 cubic inch fossil fueled powered boat before I go electric lol
@terryterrific3955
@terryterrific3955 2 жыл бұрын
From a logical standpoint: this seems incredibly dangerous😒
@IanSmithKSP
@IanSmithKSP 2 жыл бұрын
From a logical standpoint: why would explosions in a box be any better? Ever hear of circuit breakers?
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@Childrensstorychannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@chrisr4220
@chrisr4220 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Because you think you’ll get electrocuted? Or?
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett 2 жыл бұрын
@@IanSmithKSP you ever see what a ruptured lithium cell can do? Now imagine one the size of a fridge after 10 years of saltwater intrusion.
@GringoXalapeno
@GringoXalapeno 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the irony when we have electric oil tankers lol
@lucasatilano8008
@lucasatilano8008 2 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen fuel cells are better for boats than batteries
@a-don13
@a-don13 2 жыл бұрын
You know what, this is the one application I give hydrogen props on
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 2 жыл бұрын
@@a-don13 Fuel cells are a wonderfull backup to solar boats. Airplanes are another good application. Long haul electric trucking is also better with fuel cells.
@a-don13
@a-don13 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyak4493 when our economies are truly and fully dependent on batteries somewhere around 2060 hopefully, batteries will be the only backup options for buildings and stationary structures. and by then hydrogen won't make as much sense for hauling trucks as it does now because of how few in number trucks are and making and transporting hydrogen only for the use of trucks will not be worth it. every form of ground transportation will use direct electricity. now airplanes are prime example of how hydrogen can be put to good use but I feel like airplanes will have a new kind of propulsion system all together by then. That is generally unlikely however and rationally I think we should see hydrogen for planes yeah. transportation methods that require very specialized docking are the ones which will use anything other than direct electricity, in other words ships and airplanes. EVTOLs will be all electric however.
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 2 жыл бұрын
@@a-don13 You are counting on battery tech we don't have yet. 2060 is too late. My view needs hydrogen production not yet proven or scaled. A relative of mine has demonstrated hydrogen production directly from focused solar plasma. Good luck!
@a-don13
@a-don13 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyak4493 what? when i said 2060 i was trying to foresee what the right path would be and what would and wouldn't make sense when whatever we chose to go with will be fully scaled up and integrated. battery already beats hydrogen on many fronts today. hydrogen has too many micro problems and too many steps that need to get sorted out. fundamentally, hydrogen is inferior to batteries.
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 2 жыл бұрын
How does the electricity you recharge your battery with get generated? lol. Its not zero impact, and wind/solar will never be efficient enough to replace old school fuels. It kind of reminds me of a pipe dream honestly.
@Charlie-zj3hw
@Charlie-zj3hw 2 жыл бұрын
Only way to convince people is when it all fails with NO fuel backups and lots of people die.. These people are so dumb they put all their eggs in one basket
@a-don13
@a-don13 2 жыл бұрын
Inefficient how? Sure the utilization of photos to make electricity is not efficient when you look at what it could be doing but stepping back and looking at the entire process they make far more electricity in their life time than it takes to produce the panels themselves. Unlike gas which is gone when you use it. Plus nuclear fusion is the future source of power, the ultimate energy generation.
@mazahiralianchan7128
@mazahiralianchan7128 2 жыл бұрын
Price and delivery charges
@tigerseye73
@tigerseye73 2 жыл бұрын
ICE powered boats consume less than 1 % of the gasoline used in the US. They are not the environment disaster that many of these commentators allude to. If they knew their facts, they would be commenting about the disastrous mining operations needed to produce these low energy lithium batteries, which are also very difficult to recycle.
@adamdanilowicz4252
@adamdanilowicz4252 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main selling point isn't CO2 emissions, but things like noise, smell, and local pollution.
@ElectricGlider2016
@ElectricGlider2016 2 жыл бұрын
Ok tree hugger. The vast majority of the arguments for electrification of boats mentioned in this video have to do with operation of the boats and simply how much better they are compared to an ICE. No loud engine noise, no smell, no exhaust, instant torque, less maintenance, less moving parts, cheaper fuel, cheaper operating costs, and more fish around marinas because there is no gasoline contamination is why more and more companies are starting to electrify boats. It's mostly economics and physics, not trying to be a tree hugger like you.
@tigerseye73
@tigerseye73 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricGlider2016 Hey Snark. When you advocate for an electric powered boat, you are the disillusioned tree hugger. The only thing they are good for is crossing a farm pond or a narrow river; no long distance boating. The batteries will never have the energy storage of a gallon of gasoline. There are no real economic benefits to them. And the enviro damage they create thru mining operations is a disaster in the making. Its apparent you have not considered looking at photos of the slush ponds caused by lithium mining in Chile and elsewhere. As long as they are not in your back yard you think everything is great.
@ElectricGlider2016
@ElectricGlider2016 2 жыл бұрын
@@tigerseye73 you are obviously not experienced at this are you. You are the only one trying to bring in the "environment" aspect into this, not me or even this video. I acknowledge the mining "disaster" of lithium and I agree with you on that if you care about that so much..... But I don't care. You are the only one caring about it. Hence why you are the lame tree hugger. I and the people in this video prefer electrification not because of some lame tree hugger agenda by some libtard, but simply because an electric motor is vastly superior to a gas engine for all the reason I already listed and is wildly known. And all of that does satisfy regular recreational boating which is the vast majority of regular people who own boats in the first place. Not going to try to explain how economics of eelctric is much better if you don't understand the basics of how gas is far more expensive than electricity especially right now since you're an amateur at this. I'll simply say get off your tree hugger soap box and listen to people who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to actually engineering and economics.
@ctom4932
@ctom4932 2 жыл бұрын
I work on boats for a living. I've never had anyone complain it was too loud (when running normally). In fact when I recommend the "high performance" exhaust bellows for a Mercruiser Stern drive, which does make it a touch louder at speed, never get told "no".
@badwolf1795
@badwolf1795 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!. 454 mercruiser and mercury 200 Blackmax 2 stroke all the way!
@ronl2463
@ronl2463 2 жыл бұрын
Gm is getting into electric boats because is easier to put the battery fires out with the water close by
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 2 жыл бұрын
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