Jim Cornette on Tim Horner

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[@michaelconnors9906]

During one SMW taping in late 1992 Bob Caudle said to Dutch Mantel that Tim Horner thought that he belonged on any list of contenders for the SMW Heavyweight Championship, to which Dutch Mantel replied with something like "and Charles Manson thinks he should get out of prison."

[@douglaspatrick868]

Heh, Dirty Dutch is classic man, love his stuff.

[@thorboysen3318]

Well, Charlie Manson died in prison...! And that was not fair!

[@davidholzer4155]

@keller blair dying of cancer is naturally as oppose to being killed which is not natural

[@lemankurtz8950]

@@thorboysen3318 I know there was some really weird shit going on with Manson....him being paroled and allowed to go to Mexico as a "sub-contractor".....MK Ultra CIA innuendos.......etc...etc.... But I still think he was a twisted little shit who did manipulate even bigger idiots to do bad things.

[@DrJReefer]

@@thorboysen3318 That happens when you're a psychopath

[@hey12358y]

"....and stole my truck and my fax machine." Crying with laughter.

[@dreday5880]

"Horner couldn't book Lassie in a pet shop" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RhysPitman94]

Corny has the best put downs out there 😆

[@codyryan2316]

Three years later and I don't think Horner has gotten that $8000 lemon truck off blocks

[@chrislaverick]

Popped when Jim mentions the white ⚡ sang like he was "calling dogs"

[@FerretJohn]

"I have not sugar-coated this.." Because Jim is so well known for sugar coating things.

[@jusbertmeza4424]

His middle name is paula dean because he sugar coats everything 💀

[@lemankurtz8950]

@@jusbertmeza4424 No, then he would gravy-butter-Coat everything.

[@williamkline9694]

Jim doesn't need to sugarcoat anything tim Horner full of bs

[@therush420]

“Why is Tim Horner singing?” - Rick Rubin

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Rick rubin like DEF JAM records Rick Rubin??...thats fuckin crazy

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

@@tobiasfarragut292 Yes that Rick Rubin!!

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Colonel Roberts, Jr. more surprised hes a wrestling fan.. but then again when shit was great and entertaining in the 80’s wrestling was alot more intriguing to ppl from all walks

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

@@tobiasfarragut292 Most definitely!! I feel that despite the business being exposed, there's things that can be done to make it believable as possible. Now if Tony Khan had the same mindset as Rick Rubin I'm sure AEW could be a little bit better than it's current state of being.

[@jackbarnes9728]

Singing? I heard Cornette say he was a chicken fucker.

[@coachredbone]

Never booked Lassie in a pet shop!! :D :D

[@oilerdiehard]

Corny burying Horner is one of my fave epic moments in the history of the Jim Cornette Experience podcast. Damn haha.

[@ikilledjigsaw]

oilerdiehard his kenny king rant is good too

[@aschraub9897]

Don't forget the epic Kevin Dunn rants XD

[@jamirimaj6880]

and I have no idea who Horner is lol

[@oilerdiehard]

@@jamirimaj6880 Oh really? Not a big old school wrestling fan I am guessing? From the end of the '70s thru the mid '90s he wrestled all over the place Alabama, Southeastern, Georgia, Continental, Mid-Atlantic, Florida, Japan, Mid-South / UWF, Smoky Mountain, NWA, WCW, WWF etc...

[@northbykenwest]

Eagerly awaiting that book on Smokey Mountain Wrestling.

[@KHayes666]

"If this was a movie, Tim Horner would be the best friend" The Shawn Hunter to Corey Matthews or the Kel to Kenan....actually thatts not fair, Shawn and Kel had charisma which Tim did not.

[@bludluva]

Jim really catered to this guy more than he ever had to, but I think I can see Tim horners motivation. It sounds like he struggled to get over in the big pond, and when Jim started a smaller scale promotion in his hometown, this was his chance to be on top of the food chain and get some gold around his waist.

[@johnnyx9892]

"and get some gold around his waist" and some slick-um on the PP

[@judahofjudea4601]

I'm from Knoxville and I agree with Cornette, this city has a lot of Tim Horner's and Terry Landell's running around

[@sc30002001]

Kane lives there

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Supposed to be going to Tennessee in like a month for a quick 3 day holiday u think theres a good chance of me running into ol chicken fucker outside of (Place Name here)’s General store?

[@nicholasfarrell8403]

Isn’t terry landell also known as earnest t. bass?

[@derekshoup9579]

Yeah ame here I'm also from Knoxville I remember those crowds because I was one of those in the crowds

[@derekshoup9579]

@@nicholasfarrell8403 yeah or as I call him fun size oompa loompa

[@Fultonfalcons86]

I think it is shitty to use a handicapped child to try and force them to give you the title , That tells me all I need to know about a person...

[@manticorephoenix]

Fultonfalcons86 agreed, Cena uses sick kids every chance he gets and I hate it

[@Fultonfalcons86]

lol keep dreaming shit ball you chumps haven't won a state title in football since never as far as I can remember haha Fulton has won what now 4 or 5 titles in football this past decade who sucks those puke admirals do that's who ass clown...

[@Fultonfalcons86]

Oh so you are from the pay to play school I see but you won't be winning shit with out ole george lol and maryville is 6a dumbass fulton is 4a you fucking moron...

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

+Manticorephoenix Cena does the Make A Wish foundation and wants to make sick kids happy and he's a nice valuable guy you can depend on.

[@terminallumbago6465]

Matt Brewer And that's great. I wish WWE wouldn't use it like they do. Let him quietly do this, but don't publicize it. It just seems like they use it as a publicity stunt

[@KentuckyKid84]

I bought one of Horner's lightning bolts as a kid at an SMW show in Williamsburg, KY and got it autographed...now I'm not miffed about losing it. What an asshole.

[@StarlightEater]

That sucks bro im tryin to find one

[@c.l.freeman7654]

So you are the one who bought it. He sold one and you were the lucky guy! Imagine if you still had it! That would probably bring a few Abe Lincoln's...the round copper kind, not the paper kind

[@mikepeterson764]

This makes 40 minutes of burying Tim Horner. I'd be okay 40 more minutes.

[@ghostface216]

Mike Peterson absolutely. Nothing beats an epic Corbett's promo.

[@MoveInSilence23]

...or 20 years of burying Horner.

[@StarlightEater]

Yea fuck that treejumper horner hillbilly cousin diddling sack of dogshit

[@TheRealDannAlexander]

@@MoveInSilence23 Netflix series. I would be in for it.

[@irockandiadarola3730]

Moral to the story: Dont cross a man who's career is to verbally burn people to the ground.

[@thommytsunami]

The teases of a SMW book from these older clips are almost as painful as Tim Hormer's "winners never quit and quitters never win" promos.

[@stephenbianchi7141]

thommytsunami thank you. I've been wondering what Tim Horner's deal is since I started watching SMW. Hes just a hometown babyface who brought capital, shoulda figured. Glad to hear cornette explain it. The wierd belt angle makes more sense now, too. THUNDER ROOOOOOAD, LIGHTNING STRIKES...

[@clarknapper3933]

Stephen Bianchi Horner never brought capital, he was just a local boy that Jim thought could be useful, not knowing he was a thieving tool.

[@FattawnIWAEC]

Damn. Loved the Lightning Express.

[@paulschmich5577]

There is a Tim Horner Jr running and working in a promotion in Freemont Ohio called Live Pro Wrestling he's pretty good

[@terminallumbago6465]

Was that the baby that Horner's wife was holding when she bitched out Jim?

[@jackbarnes9728]

It would probably benefit that guy to the drop that name and come up with a ring name instead. After all what can the kid say? That his father was a jabroni and jobber to the stars? Oh yea and Jim Cornette called him a chicken fucker once?

[@TheMarkWilson]

Now his run at SMW makes sense. Horner sucked on the mic and was mediocre at best at wrestling.

[@bluhmer1990]

All came down to Cornette keeping a promise.

[@fjccommish]

Red Rover, Red Rover, let Tim Horner come over.

[@jonoisgood]

Was the white lightning name in reference to moonshine?

[@DismasBeats]

Tim Horner looks like his parents are cousins

[@PaulieD1984]

More like brother and sister

[@james.the.ref123]

@@PaulieD1984 was going to say the same thing

[@lindseysummers5351]

@@PaulieD1984 Which would make Tim his own cousin.

[@AB-ce5fg]

Rick Ruben produced the Horner track ahahahha

[@christopheracosta7658]

Horner ranks up there with Russo, Herd, Dunn, and many others lol

[@supernovamcr]

And Ian Rotten, Kenny Omega

[@jackbarnes9728]

I think you're giving Horner too much credit

[@MoveInSilence23]

That fax machine....

[@randyjohnson7734]

didn't they do the angle with Tony Anthony and Tim Horner,the one from Continental in the 80's that was so popular "I wanna talk to Tom,can I talk to Tom?", with Tom Pritchard,Dr. Tom, ?

[@douglaspatrick868]

It went over like a fart in a spacesuit compared to when Tony and Dr. Tom did it in Continental in...'87or'88 I forget off hand which. Tom and Gordon Solie's mic work on that angle was close to dead perfect solid gold, got it over like Rover man, haha!

[@titone311]

@@douglaspatrick868 it was gordon solie

[@GodlessScummer]

Who was worse at the country music gimmick Jeff Jarrett or Tim Horner?

[@DefLeppardVanHalen]

At least Tim didn't lip-sync.

[@dariuskool1998]

Horner

[@mikechecka3286]

MrMetalover666 nice comparison lol

[@GodlessScummer]

DefLeppardVanHalen In retrospect maybe Jarrett's lip syncing was better than Horner's actual singing.

[@clarknapper3933]

DefLeppardVanHalen the lip-sinking worked for Jarrett because he was a heel and setup Dogg as a underdog face, ala Ted debiase and his servant. Tim Horner was just trash.

[@tomwalker389]

Are the Lightning Express the poor man's Fantastics?

[@EricNHarris]

They were!

[@60BloodyChamp60]

Leon Tan they were named after the the Rock n Roll Express, not the Fantastics. The sad thing is they were a solid territorial tag team who could have moved up. Fun fact Tim Horner pinned Sting and Hawk cleanly.

[@gahlblah5649]

No way can I think of Tim Horner actually pinning anyone.

[@60BloodyChamp60]

Gahl Blah it happened...insane right

[@gahlblah5649]

I'd almost blame it on a non existant LSD trip or something. Or we're living in an alternate reality. lol

[@davey3884]

Last time it was 40k, now its 50k..interesting

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

I wish Mark Curtis was alive right I know he would have plenty of stories to share!! From what Corny says about Mark, he was definitely a great guy!!

[@johnniebee4328]

HAHAHA these are even better after watching some of the Smoky Mountain episodes

[@CoalMinersGlove92]

I told Jim a hundred times, put me on and let's take care of business like in the old days..

[@pavlovsdogman]

Is that you Tim? So you beat off to BluTube too 8 see? 😉 I understand she's smoking hot! 🔥

[@lillianedwards1503]

Tim Horner was a total schnook, and that's putting it politely. I wasn't a fan of his, either, and I was so happy when Corney got rid of him. All he was doing was being a mark for himself, at the expense of Smoky Mtn. Wrestling, and as far as I'm concerned, he should never have been given a place in pro-wrestling.

[@kca49]

16:05 🤣🤣 Ernest t. Bass

[@bdr113080]

Is he ever going to finish the SMW book?

[@treviaunmidgett6888]

He sounded like he calling fucking dogs 🐕😂😂😂😂😂

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

Horner's was just Brad Armstrong buddy..that's his stint in wrestling period.

[@lindseysummers5351]

Well, he also was briefly Ole Anderson's stooge when he broke away from the Four Horsemen.

[@carloscjr23]

Corny actually worked with Rick Rubin, 2 masterminds working together, nice

[@Rjensen2]

I don't think so. Rubin sent him a check because he liked old style wrestling. That's it.

[@kca49]

16:05 😂😂

[@josephmiller9424]

I remember when Tim started in NWA as a young guy and i thought he might be a another Brad Armstrong but no but didnt he even become a jobber in WWF , But he coulsve become a good wrestling trainer for up and coming young guys so like the old saying those who cant teach.

[@butcherboy2008]

I like the handicapped kid angle. The technicality that took the belt back is so cruel. That's heat.

[@MrBrightWave]

The best rant Jimmy ever made is here.

[@Deadpool_64]

What I don't understand is, why was it such a big deal, and why did Horner and his fuckin wife think they were being screwed because Corny asked if he could pay him the next morning? He didn't say the next week, or bounce a check or anything, it was literally the next morning... It made more sense to go ahead and pay the out of town guys first and pay Horner the next morning since he was right around the corner.

[@c.l.freeman7654]

Jim said because when the skank was pregnant he paid him a weekly salary and after the thing was born, he put him back on per match and took him off merchandise. Also, the end of the month was slower..so when Jim paid him, Horny horner thought he was short and Jim just said Thank you, Fuck you..bye

[@josephmiller9424]

When will Tim & Jim sing a duet ( he aint heavy he is my wrestler)

[@sadetwizelve]

7:22-7:33 GENIUS!!!!

[@dizzy1369]

You can definitely tell he took ideas from Sullivan 😂🤣

[@nicholasfarrell8403]

The fact that Horner has procreated scares the ever loving shit out of me

[@jasoncutshaw8401]

I know Tim he bonded me out of jail..he's a good man in an evil wrestling world..but hasn't gotten the attitude or killer instinct that is necessary for a cut throat bizz

[@alkiline9199]

Still waiting on that first book from corny on anything... Anything

[@michaelmclaren1333]

There are reasons the book is hard to get published based on from trademark disputes and an actual order of protection (shitstains restraining order) make it difficult

[@jermaineperry7527]

Great truthful amazing revealing pro wrestling show to listen

[@asurlybarber3620]

I remember Tim Horner as a guy who beat jobbers like George South in matches that had me switching over to Three Stooges reruns, but guys like Tully Blanchard or Big Bubba owned his hillbilly ass every time.

[@chrisholmes2487]

Mullet...

[@toma.4808]

Tim horner couldnt draw money out of an ATM.

[@Mechtrekica]

I thought Tim Horner was sooooooooo boring as a kid watching WCW. He was extremely generic and I never understood why they gave him the US title!!!The US Title was suppose to be WCW's IC title that you put on guys who were going to be main event stars! Man WCW was so incompetent back then.

[@jeremiahbutler294]

I'm not very good at making KZbin user names tooooootally agree....he was quick as a hiccup but that was it....decent tag wrestler but only if the other man was the leader

[@johnwade7963]

he was the US champ? that must of been during the stretch where I wasn't watching.

[@kpllc4209]

He never won any titles in WCW

[@wrestlingstuffv2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJyvnZp_g6h6bbc I believe you saw this image of Tim holding the belt and thought this. Nah, don't worry, that's way after WCW's burial.

[@mindycarroll1724]

I quit watching smokey mountain when u put that freaking video on that show, horner sucked n wrestling and music wtf we're u thinking

[@connordripps2173]

It was Horner's idea. Horner fancied himself as a singer and Jim said in his mind basically to show off his talent (which Horner has ZERO).

[@tomwalker389]

This is almost verbatim of the version he recounted to Brian Last.

[@williamsmith666]

Man. It's like he was actually there and has a clear enough mind to remember how it all happened...

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Makes me like horner even more.

[@50farmers]

I just found Tim Horner singing 'Shameless"....holy shit it's bad....I mean embarrassingly bad.

[@williamgregory1848]

Tim Horner’s singing wasn’t horrible. He probably won a karaoke contest at some bar and it went to his head.

[@CharizardMaster69]

About the trucks, if you had to replace the motors the truck wasn't the lemon, you just kept buying bad motors.

[@everettgarrett4858]

Sugared or mothballed Gass tank by Ernest t bass lol?

[@jessevollmar2689]

Jim Cornette vs Tim Horner #hashtag chicken fucker Ecw style show wwe 2k18

[@wolfgangfrost8043]

Not my first place posting this, but I don't think you need to look very hard why Tim Horner started out by being a dilettante, got aggressively jealous, then forgot what he was even talking about by tomorrow morning?! "White Lightning"...

[@jaylew8408]

Lolol only corny would refuse to go to a location if it messed with the image and integrity of wrestling even if it harmed a company he owned

[@steveschmidt4063]

It was not good. Not even for a wrestler

[@jonrife8226]

Tim Horner was busy stealing trucks and fax machines. I'm surprised he had time to wrestle.

[@alkiline9199]

Sold is his intersest in the money pit that cornette didn't own but loves to act like he did

[@Dale-jr7oj]

He had a piece and ran the fuckin thing. You’re a clown

[@Rjensen2]

Lmao, Cornette definitely owned Smoky Mountain. 😂😂😂

[@randyjohnson7734]

basically I've noticed how Jim really goes in depth so often,about how he's right & others are so wrong,so wrong headed,& lack common sense,& Dutch Mantell while at TNA along with Jim & Vince Russo,says he was between Jim & Russo in their conflict so cooler heads might prevail & I thought that gave me some insight, & apparently Jim is another person that wants more & more rules & restrictions on a person being able to purchase guns legally,supporting democrats & the current SJW outcries & all,blaming the violence on the guns & their availability more than the ones using them,among various other liberal democrat notions etc,I always agreed with democrats growing up from what my parents told me,& thought republicans were basically the older guys & families real comfortable money wise that didn't want to help anyone,but now Democrats to me really lost all common sense & have no direction,& young people & SJW democrats on the street become punks & criminals,so I wouldn't have a discussion with Jim about politics,I'd avoid & stick to wrestling,I have a ton of respect for his views & experience on that...

[@thomasdemay9805]

i agree with you i hate cornettes politics and he hates mine but i dont 'tune in' to hear him talk politics i hear him to rant about wrestling. cornettes personalty though when he does get political i can just laugh at it. cornettes alright in my book but yea he is pretty much a brainwashed communist when it comes to Pol. Brilliant Wrestling Podcaster though.

[@gahlblah5649]

I love cornettes politics, you know going in his opinions, yet still choose to watch and not only that choose to make huge posts bitching and whining.

[@randyjohnson7734]

I know I try to cover too many things I've read about or whatever & get a lengthy post or hard to make sense of,also trying to grow in knowledge & seem kinda stunted right now, need new outlets or something. please cut me a break. I love all the wrestling people out there.

[@mrbadguysan]

Randy Johnson this must be the 2nd longest sentence in English... What are you trying to say, Man?!

[@mrbadguysan]

Randy Johnson would it kill you to use paragraphs?

[@williamflowers9435]

Tim Horner reminds me of Forrest Gump… just a lot less likable, less self aware and less intelligent

[@tommymann69]

TIM HORNER IS A JOKE

[@randyjohnson7734]

I like Jim and respect but the song sounded just fine and I read between the lines a lot on this that may or may not be there,but it sounds like another guy that is so-o-o wrong headed and Jim is so-o-o goddamn fuckin' right headed it so fuckin' fuckity fuck fuck obvious,Jim really gets off on sayin'fuck, and its nothing new...Dutch Man tell likes Jim,known longtime and all,kinda mediated Jim and Vince Russo I guess, and seems a recurring theme with cornette, I kinda think Tim had some fair ideas,a little bit of a money person,& somewhat got overrun & pushed aside,because Jim found out someone else had similar ideas to him,& he didn't want that to muddy his situation,he thought he was alone & in for smooth sailing on it...I am a polar opposite to Jim's politics,but I would never up any of that with him,just let it ride...anyone opposite of his politics would just be so-o-o goddamn wrong in the head I'm sure...I love Jim though,truly great,& I can't hold a candle to him in the end, so...

[@gahlblah5649]

....what?

[@prizm2807]

Randy Johnson you keep posting the same nonsense. how much meth have you smoked?

[@randyjohnson7734]

what's it to you? I observe what people say to make sense of the dynamics in the wrestling business,& I have my own take on it. Except I don't have a podcast to spout stories for an hour & a half once or twice a week. If you're not into it just bypass it. I dont personally care to post things like, "he's a douchebag," or "that dildo needs to get a life," I have psychology classes & books so I look at it that way sometimes.

[@randyjohnson7734]

that & they say a lot & have a lot of opinions I'm interested in & I guess there's just not space in this forum to breach all of it,that's true...by the way,I quit drinking for good ten years ago & don't use meth anymore...

[@pavlovsdogman]

@@randyjohnson7734 😆😆😆 hey Tim good to see you quit meth and found Donald Trump! 👍

[@Vincent-The-Attorney]

Every time I start watching SMW again I always end up coming back to this clip