Did you catch the romantic tension between Jinx and Ekko? Viktor and Jayce? Well let's review. Art source: @_riyuno on twitter #arcane #jinx #arcanenetflix
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@jey67792 жыл бұрын
I always loved - Childhood friends > enemies > lovers trope, so Timebomb aka Ekko and Jinx is exactly for me
@felixsonofscouty2 жыл бұрын
I learned I love that trope as soon as I saw them
@boredangel57882 жыл бұрын
I watched the videoclip of "Enemy" before watching the entire series, and I was like awww cute friends, they look so good together. When adult Ekko appeared in Arcane I was like oh, they were childhood friends. Wouldn't be cute if they have a crush too? And then THE STARE happened and I was like I MUST SHIP!! THIS IS A BIG ONE!!! God, I love friends to enemies to lovers trope. I really hope in future seasons at least show some hints, cause I really don't think Ekko x Jinx would be posible. Only if it takes very very angsty, like if Jinx dies in the finale, and Ekko cries for her, like Ray and Kylo Ren kind of stuff.
@jjmeanbean78702 жыл бұрын
@@boredangel5788 I had the exact same experience lol, tought I have feith that they will at least be friends again at the finale of the show
@boredangel57882 жыл бұрын
@@jjmeanbean7870 OMG yes!!!
@teapotexists2 жыл бұрын
if anyone knows catra and adora from she-ra (on netflix) they have the same exact thing and i love it
@Pufty2 жыл бұрын
Viktor is married to his work. "Love and legacy are the things we leave behind for progress"
@anitaremenarova66622 жыл бұрын
Man's asexual
@Dragoniiia2 жыл бұрын
"Jayce will understand." >;3
@x_Degurechaff_x2 жыл бұрын
Reject the d embrace the glorious evolution comarad.
@jjju32 жыл бұрын
i mean. this is explicitly in canon a line from him being _incredibly_ unhealthy. this is a bad thing that he says in an incredible low point. its incredibly clear jayce is at the very least someone he cares so much about, immediately after this line; "Jayce will understand." he is abandoning legacy, something he always strived for before his death, and love, something he holds for jayce (canonically, platonically.) because hes dying and hes grasping for straws to save himself, to progress. honestly that line just further spurs me on to thinking theirs a further relationship between them lmao, at least on viktors side. jayce clearly means a lot to him.
@mayfield79242 жыл бұрын
Glorious Evolution
@Kyoril2 жыл бұрын
I totally believe Powder and Ekko had a mutual crush on each other. It makes sense. They are both roughly the same age. Both very inventive and mechanically inclined. Also it is highly likely that hanging out in Benzos' second hand shop with Ekko, is were Powder learned to differentiate between what's valuable and what isn't and why during the Piltover heist. Vi trusts Powder to look for the good stuff before Mylo fills the bag with junk.
@allisoncornell43782 жыл бұрын
Wow thats a long stretch, im impressed. Its genuinely amazing what someone can interpret out of a clear stare as a plea, and a look of nostalgia and shock. Writing wise, to me that whole scene was a confirmation it was NEVER going to happen. It could literally be signified as the end of the possibilities with that explosion if you want to get technical on a writing symbolic level. And i have an associates in creative writing (shooting for a major in a year or two when the virus calms tf down) I can see how people could like them together. Theyre cute. Writing wise it doesnt jive or square up. And I think that scene is supposed to show the downfall of them. The literal chance of them "blown up". Not to mention, there has been no indications of Powder having any morsel of romantic feelings for the kid. Not even once. Not even a bit. Further more its even a bit non compos mentis and absurd to really entertain the notion when all things considered. Not only do we know jinx canonically will not become any more sane, but why do people forget how quick Ekko was to give up on her? Going so far as to attempting to convince her sister to do so as well? What about the firelights shes killed? His friends... Working for and being the adopted daughter the man that killed his mentor/father figure? Attempting to murder him? A few times actually. If people really feel that way i fear how they think of me and my hetero best guy friend since childhood. Especially since he had a crush on me too at one point. Yikes. Not even being a dick. Just bringing up the obvious. If they get together, its just fan service. Shallow and it knocks the writing down a few notches. I have good faith in Riot at understanding and knowing that as well. Especially with the high level writing they have been using. I can say im fairly confident not only is it never going to happen, but im also fairly confident that crush was very one sided. I also believe (this is a hunch and not backed up by evidence) that the introduction of Zeri is going to be used in Arcane and i fully believe her and Ekko will be far more likely than him and Jinx ever will be. I even partially believe thats why she was released now at all. If you keep up on datamines, there were people in the files before her that have been unreleased. She kind of came out of nowhere shortly before Arcane. Like super shortly. And i legitimately believe she'll be built up with Ekko. As a way to make Ekko fans happy. Food for thought. Not hate.
@Tidepod_Prince2 жыл бұрын
Jinx is 4 years older
@Kyoril2 жыл бұрын
@@Tidepod_Prince You get that from the show, or someplace else. Cause they sure look to be about the same age. Or are you just making a lame attempt of trolling.
@allisoncornell43782 жыл бұрын
@@KS-tp1um Youre acting like its a hate comment when its not. Some people like to have discussions and actually discuss instead of condensing everything down to 3 lines. But sure, okay. I always find it funny when people thrash people for posting something long. Just dont read it and move on. Getting mad at something being long is like the same thing as getting mad at someone for being passionate or intellectual. Sorry it was too much words for you? I appreciate the input, good talk. I also am pretty sure people are allowed to discuss opposing opinions. Im also being really chill. As my statement "food for thought, not hate" in the comment said. Im trying to talk, not hate so direct the chill out towards someone whos actually not lol.
@allisoncornell43782 жыл бұрын
@@Kyoril actually hes right. Jinx is 4 years older on league of legends official website. Ekko is 17 in game, jinx is 21. Which means in part one where its estimated jinx is around 11-12 Ekko would be around 8. I think they just look the same because Powder has an especially small frame and build, you know?
@randhussein72022 жыл бұрын
Idk I feel like powder might not just express her feelings for Ekko the same way that others do because when my crush falls I topple over laughing
@Plexi842 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s proven many times that even since she was younger that powder/jinx didn’t respond emotionally to some situations. That she always had mental issues such as when her parents died unlike Vi who was balling on the floor. Powder was teary eyed but really no reaction. She doesn’t do well with high anxiety issues. Either is extremely emotional or emotions less.
@BratzRockAngels2 жыл бұрын
@@Plexi84 You're right. Powder was sad and crying, but she wasn't balling like Violet was. We can see her mental illness effect her from when she was little and when she has her breakdowns.
@luanals51992 жыл бұрын
Yeah and we should also keep in mind that they where children and childhood crushes are a lot different from adult ones. It's pretty common for kids to crush on each other but be weirded out by it at the same time lol
@Plexi842 жыл бұрын
@@luanals5199 yes exactly true
@miskamysa43232 жыл бұрын
Powder/ Jinx is aromantic asexual.
@MiMi-xc7ks2 жыл бұрын
Riot is finally allowing that relationships to be show cases. Diana and Leona were created together as lovers but when they were released they softly implied that there was a deeper relationship before they hated each other. Now in lore they were officially a romantic couple and Solari propaganda makes them enemies.
@unknow117122 жыл бұрын
it was completly censored in the russian version and in any part of islam , i've no idea if there is even a chinese one.
@nynx.2 жыл бұрын
@@unknow11712 I highly doubt there's a Chinese one since they're heavily anti-lgbtq+ too.
@cult.leader2 жыл бұрын
@@nynx. prob implied tho, have you seen honkai and most Chinese dramas 😭 they do censor it but when there’s a will there’s a way
@nynx.2 жыл бұрын
@@cult.leader Yeah, I know. It's a shame they're not allowed to say it out loud though :(
@cult.leader2 жыл бұрын
@@nynx. it’s like that w some western media too but yeah I get it it’s so much worse in China even though some nobles used to be openly gay 😭
@caseyv83222 жыл бұрын
I can see Ekko liking Powder but I see Jinx as kind of aromantic right now imo. Also them as a relationship is a little bit of a lost cause because I think Jinx has done so much atrocities Ekko wouldn't be able to take her back as a romantic interest anyway
@jonathanjohnson67272 жыл бұрын
What if their relationship dynamic is similar to that of Batman and Catwoman..?
@PhysicallyAwake2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjohnson6727 I don’t think jinx can return Ekkos feelings, and even if it did the relationship would be very toxic.
@jonathanjohnson67272 жыл бұрын
@@PhysicallyAwake you understand my comparison to Batman and Catwoman right? Loving yet often separated by their nature and methods of operation(while actually having a bond/relationship that persists anything the other does that they disagree with). Ekko and Jinx still care about each other; everything within and surrounding their fight illustrated it. She willingly joined in the game he wanted them to reenact and was gleeful while doing so. Before that she blew up the enforcers, which some may see as her attacking them out of confusion over Vi and Caitlin's hug. I see it as retaliation for Marcus shooting and presumably from Jinx's perspective killing Ekko. Prior to this Ekko was projecting onto Vi that Powder is gone, yet he wears a mask whenever he interacted with Jinx prior. Which can be symbolic of him hiding his true nature toward her, even with what became of her, when they interact; a.k.a he never believed his own words. He's just manifested this outer shell, that melted when Vi hugged him(similar to Jinx being what protects Powder and that melting away when Vi hugged her). Also have ya ever noticed how whenever Jinx thought about/saw Ekko it wasn't with the associated distorted sketches and manifestations that appear whenever she remembers Mylo, Vander, Claggor or even Vi(during the boxing contraption scene in ep 5 and when she was revived in ep 8). Even with the difference of Jinx being infused with a variation of shimmer. It suggests there's a sort of clarity to her now. She's fully embracing who she is rather than holding onto what she was, just as Silco did and affirmed with his dying breath. Ekko is the only one shown any hint at accepting her, as she is now. Unwillingness to finish what he started in their face-off, just as Silco wouldn't betray her for his life long mission. Since they'll be on the same side of the war; doubtful Ekko suddenly will join PIltovers side, given he only allowed favor to Caitlin due to Vi vouching for her. It seemed more like Ekko will open the mind of Heimerdinger and he'll become apart of Zaun's efforts. Ekko and Jinx will be inclined to team up and likely be a pairing. We've already seen Vi joined up with Caitlin who both had opposing views that helped further shape each toward greater understanding and clearly a romantic relationship. Given the ever present duality. Ekko can be the relationship to Jinx, what Caitlin is for Vi.
@gimmeyourrights82922 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjohnson6727 That's nice and all but Jinx kinda killed his friends. In cold blood too, I don't remember Catwoman killing one of the Robins.
@jonathanjohnson67272 жыл бұрын
@@gimmeyourrights8292 well I never said they're meant to be carbon copies of my example. Ekko is far more sociable, approachable and outgoing than Batman ever is. Jinx is far more sequestered than Catwoman. Though they both present a front around anyone that isn't those they cares for; ex: confronting Sevika and 'Chuck'. And there's been instances where Catwoman definitely harms someone Batman cares about or is in the midst of trying to save. But he is willing to understand the layers to her actions. Just as Ekko could or already has contemplated given his extensive memorization skill.
@justhaku92402 жыл бұрын
Vi x Cait best couple, yes it's based but they're just too cute
@mallorifeatherstone19942 жыл бұрын
Yes Vi and Cait belong together
@im_zeus69392 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@mallorifeatherstone19942 жыл бұрын
Yes they have great chemistry can't wait to see more of them in season 2
@mallorifeatherstone19942 жыл бұрын
Thats ok everyone has there opinions there good too
@williampearson62992 жыл бұрын
Mel and Jayce are the best couple in Arcane. they actually consummated.
@MonoFlax2 жыл бұрын
Varus is TECHNICALLY canonically a gay couple trapped inside a body that is helmed by a cursed Darkin bow... I think? But its never shown because they're essentially just offscreen spirits that have nothing to do with actual Varus the character There is also a dynamic between Graves and Twisted Fate and the writer (who doesn't work at Riot anymore) has come out to confirm that they were meant to be a married couple, but someone at Riot disagreed heavily And thats about all of the mlm gay relationships that LoL has; One that should have been but isnt canon, and one thats technically canon but not actually visible in anything other than the lore
@owo90592 жыл бұрын
Varus has music video just about gay couple so it is quite visible and shows that Riot isn't afraid with such content - we don't have any lesbian couple in cinematic yet, but we have Valmar and Kay. So it is not only confirmed mlm gay relationship, it even has it's own music video!
@jonahsiminak29932 жыл бұрын
@@owo9059 it's still not as up front as the straight couples are. The closest to affection we get is them *almost* touching foreheads. Other than that it's all reading between the lines in the music video
@jonahsiminak29932 жыл бұрын
If you want to get RIDICULOUSLY obscure, there's also Legion Veteran in Legends of Runeterra, whose flavor text mentions that he has a husband
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato2 жыл бұрын
uhhh I think you're forgetting a serious power couple here, Diana & Leona are supposed to be in love, lol but Romeo & Juliet style: they can't be with 1 another, bc it would tear their clans apart, so they both mantle the responsibility of loving from a distance but they are like super serious & exclusive lol
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato2 жыл бұрын
@@owo9059 uh we actually do have a lesbian couple in a cinematic, it's here I'll link it~ (between Diana of the Lunari, & Leona of the Solari) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIbYfXdjZdGhmrs but sadly yea, their love for each other isn't allowed to be even close to animated bc it's a bit of an old cinematic back when the homophobic people in charge of riot were still heavily influencing the content, but it's there :)
@toastysweaters56922 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of Jarvik, but I don’t mind having them in a platonic/rival relationship. However, I can’t seem to wrap my head around Mel x Jayce. Keep note, I would’ve accepted this ship even though I like Jayvik. It’s just, the way Mel x Jayce started dating, I didn’t feel any chemistry between them. Hell, they weren’t even friends, Mel acted more like Jayce’s boss/supervisor at the start. So, I was more than surprised when they kissed and did two person push-ups, when their relationship didn’t really have a good foundation. Mel and Jayce are both great characters individually, but together they just feel…eh. But, maybe that’s just me.
@joyc.e.75112 жыл бұрын
I agree. I wish we could have seen more of a romantic relationship grow between them. Just them getting to know each other outside the politics. It could have been really cute, now that I think about it.
@bloodymarysperiodblood66672 жыл бұрын
they interact -> they be horny -> they bang, it's way more common than one can imagine, really. As shallow as it seems sometimes
@giaherrera1412 жыл бұрын
same same
@mdrakonnia29332 жыл бұрын
I think that was the point. To me it felt like a (slightly) manipulative relationship from the start. Mel was attracted by Jayce's intelligence and physique, and she won Jayce over by guiding his and Viktor's success. She cares about Jayce and she's proven herself compassionate but as a complex character Mel is also manipulative, works to get what she wants and knows she can control Jayce. That was her approach in the beginning until Jayce sought her out to be comforted. She asked why from being genuinely confused as to what Jayce wanted from their relationship and mellows out a bit.
@crazydragy42332 жыл бұрын
@@mdrakonnia2933 Yeah, that's exactly how I read it, or well rationalised because it seemingly didn't make sense to me haha.
@Jenna-in4br2 жыл бұрын
I feel better that I'm not the only one who ships jinx and ekko. Maybe it's cause they're both my favourite charectors.
@glebskachko1811 Жыл бұрын
Not the only one? It's was literally in the lore for years. I think everyone knows about Jinx and Ekko thing
@Jenna-in4br Жыл бұрын
@@glebskachko1811 I'm talking about the show
@glebskachko1811 Жыл бұрын
@@Jenna-in4br I'm just saying that there are a lot of people who ships them based on their lore because lore itself ships them
@Jenna-in4br Жыл бұрын
@@glebskachko1811 from the show, yeah my comment is from a year ago when the show was new and this wasn't a big ship
@boredangel57882 жыл бұрын
I watched the videoclip of "Enemy" before watching the entire series, and I was like awww cute friends, they look so good together. When adult Ekko appeared in Arcane I was like oh, they were childhood friends. Wouldn't be cute if they have a crush too? And then THE STARE happened and I was like I MUST SHIP!! THIS IS A BIG ONE!!! God, I love friends to enemies to lovers trope. I really hope in future seasons at least show some hints, cause I really don't think Ekko x Jinx would be posible. Only if it takes very very angsty, like if Jinx dies in the finale, and Ekko cries for her, like Ray and Kylo Ren kind of stuff.
@arturzinurov47812 жыл бұрын
Jinx killed people Ekko considers family and she is not exactly in the state of mind for relationship so as much as I love this to be addressed next season having them ACTUALLY become a thing is just weird and pretty fucked up.
@alwaysyouramanda2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Jinx could never feel guilty enough to be phased by her actions now because of what she was responsible for as a kid.
@xCoatlicuex2 жыл бұрын
She could have get over her actions as child the problem is a lot other crimes were piled upon her across the years and she dosen't really has excuse to them because most were done willing.
@R_AM022 жыл бұрын
Im gonna put this here because I think it would go better here than anywhere else, but I don't ship Ekko and Jinx romantically but platonically. I don't want Ekko to even give up everything that he's made or any possible relationships he has at home. Just that like, if Jinx were to start taking steps to bring a better person, I think it would be cool for them to be friends again.
@senkuishigami38842 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Ekko had A LOT of patience with Jinx in Arcane
@PandasRising2 жыл бұрын
Leona and Diana were canonically a couple when they were younger. I'm not sure if they still are. But Riot released a piece a few months ago called "Rise with Me" in Leona's universe lore and the ending clearly indicates the love that the two share
@FreeTheRats_2 жыл бұрын
They are not a couple anymore. Leona and the Solari try to kill the Lunari, which is Diana's people. They always fight each other.
@GiulioBonadeo2 жыл бұрын
A COUPLE OF BESTIEEEEES
@TheMroldtimer2 жыл бұрын
Uhhh.... Powder acted scared when he grabbed her because he was scaring her, pretending as if the creature in the box had grabbed her.
@lemonadiewoodlander42902 жыл бұрын
Vi x Caitlyn is canon if you pay attention to Vi and Caitlyn's in-game interactions. Like you can't tell me it isn't. However, Jayce x Viktor probably isn't gonna happen, and if it does, it won't last because: *SPOILER ALERT* TL;DR Jayce and Viktor become enemies later on to the extent that Jayce becomes self-centred, not crediting Viktor for his scientific advancements, Jayce and Viktor clash over how ethical Viktor's research is and Jayce destroys Viktor's lab while Viktor is trying to save the lives of Zaunites which results in their deaths (however their quality of life should they have survived is questionable).
@sthellarvalkyrie2 жыл бұрын
My boy Viktor deserves better
@tenmahakusho63902 жыл бұрын
Poor Viktor 😢
@hiroshiramasendjews95392 жыл бұрын
Holy moly this is sad. I see why people hate Jayce. I didn't hate him, the only thing l didn't like was his poor decision making.
@lemonadiewoodlander42902 жыл бұрын
@@hiroshiramasendjews9539 To be fair to Jayce, I can get behind believing that some of Viktor's experiments push ethical boundaries. Viktor becomes very transhumanist. However, Viktor, unlike Singed, doesn't experiment apathetically and truly believes in saving and improving lives, and that doesn't excuse stealing credit, so I'm still on team Viktor.
@Victorsandergamer2 жыл бұрын
@@hiroshiramasendjews9539 the league of legends cannon jayce is way more arrogant and selfish than arcane jayce
@rons_seb2 жыл бұрын
_“Riot seems to be scared to show a lesbian kiss”_ Uh, no? That’s called development buddy.
@jacobthebluelobster11042 жыл бұрын
0:25 hold up what!?
@kosta11232 жыл бұрын
I feel like Ekko had feelings for Powder but I don't think she ever saw him as more than a friend. Either way with how things are currently I doubt they are ever getting together, which is good, because it makes the relationship between them even more tragic.
@TrickTails2 жыл бұрын
Ekko's crush is definitely gone. It's not romantic feelings anymore, but he still loves her platonically. You can care for someone without having to have romantic feelings for them. He still sees Powder.
@MelPal07062 жыл бұрын
THIS THANK YOU
@madelinenikiforov83592 жыл бұрын
watched this show with a friend and he immediately said "i feel the fruitiness between this two science dudes" 🤣
@hihi-xb5xz2 жыл бұрын
I relate because I showed my friend arcane and she immediately says "ship" after viktor stopped jayce from ykno... yeah
@Donut46572 жыл бұрын
There is at least one canonically gay ship in LoL lore: Leona and Diana Also when asked why we didn't get a CaitVi kiss, one of the creators replied that they knew very early on that there would be a second season. It most likely didnt happen due to pacing reasons, not because they are afraid of portraying a gay relationship. I believe (and hope) that in season 2 they will take all the gay and RUN with it
@animefanmapleshadetheacele567 Жыл бұрын
"Will take all the gay and run with it" 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
@boredangel57882 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few comments (not only in this video) of "why do you keep looking for romantic pairings, why are you people so obsessed with ship every f*cking character, Arcane isn't even of that". I like to theorize about this: love and sexual relationships is something that the big majority of people can relate to. It's something beautiful and it feels good to be in love with someone. In series like Arcane, a show with such an cruel and depressing world and story, it's not that weird that many viewers start to looking for some hints of happiness and love. Look at Attack on Titan! The shipping material is savage there, and I think it's for the same reason... idk
@RR-nj8mz2 жыл бұрын
the shipping doesn't handled properly and destroyed aot ending
@boredangel57882 жыл бұрын
@@RR-nj8mz I can't reply your comment cause I'm an anime only sorry
@RR-nj8mz2 жыл бұрын
@@boredangel5788 you'll be shocked by the ending, one of the mist controversial ending not just in anime but animation in general
@mercury19492 жыл бұрын
1:10 i think she thought the thing in the cage she's sitting on grabbed her and that's why she reacted that way but idk i could be wrong
@b3ztc1ipz2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I can never see a Viktor and Jayce romantic relationship. The reason to this is because I feel like they're building up the actual lore in league... which if you know the relationship between Viktor and Jayce... then you'll know they won't be friends for much longer. Like, they definitely changed some things but they'll eventually become enemies. You don't even need to know the actual lore to figure that out
@anitaremenarova66622 жыл бұрын
They obviously change and grow out in different directions but there's no harm in having a headcanon of a romantic relationship there before all of that happens.
@Anu321482 жыл бұрын
Also Jayce and Mel are clearly a thing! So, idk...but we will see...
@matijastankovic79002 жыл бұрын
"shes just like the female joker" Sooo Harley queen?
@coral4972 жыл бұрын
No. Jinx is better than Harley Quinn. We're talking about the *real* Joker. Harley Quinn is more like a sidekick where her "craziness" is defined by a different sense of humor and doing things out of the norm.
@csnichcain50312 жыл бұрын
Idk man. People keep saying she's harley quinn bcs theyre both woman and crazy but people saying she was a female joker bcs y'know theyre both crazy and i remember she was inspired by the joker but not only him but other fictional characters too like golum and helena. For me, i'll say she's JINX
@digimonalvatrax27388 ай бұрын
Jinx and Ekko being kids Viewers- *Expects them to have mature feelings for each other*
@santasett30932 жыл бұрын
bro the moment you said ekko and heimdringer i laughed didn't expected that xD
@misanthrope96452 жыл бұрын
Petition to make Vi and Caitlyn’s ship name: oil and water
@santasett30932 жыл бұрын
i really love the ekko and jinx ship but the problem is ekko loves powder but despise jinx
@kytharkytheon60632 жыл бұрын
3:18 Threre actually is one confirmed gay relationship. There are two guys Valmar and Kai who are shown to be lovers. And at some point they became one with Varus. This is shown in "as we fall" music video I believe
@northstar672 жыл бұрын
Where did people even get the idea of the jayvik ship? Every scene they had only showed them as good friends. Viktor was dedicated to his work and jayce obv banged mel. And the "not in front of them" basically means that viktors doesn't want fame especially he's from zaun so we dont know how pilties will think of him.
@anitaremenarova66622 жыл бұрын
It's obviously not canon because Riot are cowards who want the profit margins going up but it's a nice headcanon since as he pointed out, why the hell would Viktor randomly use that excuse of "Oh, this isn't my bedroom" while sneaking around at night with another guy?
@FeatheredWingz2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, there's an AU of post-episode 3 that lives in my head rent-free. That Ekko distracted Silco & co after Silco approached Powder and got her away from the situation. And then she and Ekko find strength in each other and go on to build and lead the Firelights in opposition to Silco, together...She still has her bombs and guns & even the unhinged energy, but it's less trauma-fueled and has more of the "i just love destruction" vibes her game character emits. The big glaring reason that Powder latched on to Silco in that critical moment was because she thought she had been rejected and abandoned to the fate of figuring out life all on her own, for good; all while processing what had just happened and her role in it. Had Ekko been the one there for her in that moment, and they worked through their grief and the downfall of relative peace in the undercity, together...Powder probs would've been Powder, all along. Even Ekko points out to Vi in the show-proper, that Jinx could choose at any time to not deal with her pain by chasing Silco's approval with violence. Until he'd witnessed her kill a whole bunch of his friends and comrades, he was probably willing to be there for her, too. Probably wanting to lean on his old friend as he grieved their mutual loved ones, too.... Man, I just want them to heal and be on the same side again, at least. Such good writing, to make me care so hard... BUT. I know that "Jinx" had to happen. Jinx is a popular champion icon for League so, lol. I can dream in AU land tho.
@Dear_Tina2 жыл бұрын
I love Ekko and Jinx ship so bad, TIMEBOMB is a very strong name.
@xCoatlicuex2 жыл бұрын
Hope not, Ekko deserves better than such a toxic, harmfull one sided relationship. Jinx has done but bring missery to him, his friend, his family and his town. Gladly killing his loved ones and ruining his city. There is a point were people should stop the toxic, "easy forgiven" or "forgive all for love" and accept that some people is just too toxic to kept aroun.
@2crisp639 ай бұрын
@@xCoatlicuex Ships are for fun tho? No one is asking for it to be canon, relax.
@anjayanjay12012 жыл бұрын
I'm cool without the Jayce x Viktor, It's really refreshing when all the " main " characters aren't in a relationship 1 and 2 not in a relationship with eachother. Yes, they share common interests, but I just don't see vicktor in love? He knows he's dying so he commits to his studies and that's what makes Viktor, well, Viktor. The determination to change the world. And a relationship of any sort will kind of draw the attention away.
@user-qx9oe2cm4c2 жыл бұрын
Victor just didn’t know that someone was looking at him not what he’s good at so when sky would express things like that he wouldn’t pick up on it.
@Case2_02 жыл бұрын
I could honestly see Viktor disregarding Skye’s love for him as love for his mind, not for him.
@FredrikHaugen2 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Mel's relationship seems a bit of sometimes. They're sexually attracted to eachother, but only Jayce seems to be trying to get some semblance of intimacy and connection between them. Considering Mels past, that might be a bridge to far for her. The opposite side of this is the budding romance between Vi and Caitlyn. Vi has massive walls, harden through losses in her life and the solitary confinement in Stillwater. Caitlyns mere presence makes those walls seem like mist. Her heart, naive in parts, but with a burning desire to aim for justice and protect people tear through them. With her Vi can relax, lowering her guard. Rest a bit. With Vi Caitlyn sees a fellow warrior in the fight for right, albeit unpolished and sometimes a bit rude, behind it all a passionate heart that's ready to fight. Despite all her hardship she hasn't lost herself. Caitlyn, raised in comfort and convenience, must find her quite refreshing. I'm actually quite happy with that they haven't kissed yet. Their relationship is based on intimacy and love, while Jayce and Mels seems to be of physical attraction and mutual benefits. I would like them to take time, to show trust in eachother. To much of so called love stories of today seems to be of young, photogenic people having more sexual urges and physical attraction and so much less about falling for the person and not the steel buns or flowy hair. Can't wait for to see how theirs relationship develops in season 2.
@Dan-zc3ou2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! In regard to your question about Gay characters in LoL, the answer is no. The only thing, in the entire history of League of Legends, those 20 plus years, that came close to being considered actual good canon gay rep, is a series of tweets from writer Yichao about queer rep in large IPs, from which he afterward, on a "completely unrelated note", link a story about a Pulsefire Timeline Ezreal and Ekko, to which the usual aholes in the fanbase proceeded to lose their mind about, being so butt-hurt at the mere allusion of gay characters existing (because an allusion it sure was, since without Yichao tweet it would have been another example of queer coding, obvious to queer people but invisible to the straights) that they started to harass those that enoyed the ship and posted art about it. To top it all off, when the crystal rose skin came out, along with Lux x Ezreal ship implications, they started to push that ship everywhere and scream "in your face!" in a completely hypocritical manner, clamoring the "canonicity" of their ship where before they bashed others for liking a "skin relegated ship", all the while playing the part of the victim, acting as if THEY were the minority and the one bullied for "daring" to take a stand against the first gay ship in this game. Also the reason lesbian characters are present while gay one are not is because lesbians are seen as more palatable to mainstream audience and more easy to sell, along with being "inoffensive" and "harmless", in a very condenscending manner no less, which is a whole problem of its own. Some can argue that Varus is also a queer Character but he's not really, he's just an example of the "bury you gays" trope and plausibile deniability since he's his own person and therefore nor a gay Character. Taric gay memes and jokes were born from those stereotypes typical of the time.
@maku52 жыл бұрын
thats why once Ezreal springs alot hes gonna be head over heals for Ekko
@newolympiangod81342 жыл бұрын
Jinx and Ekko I saw that when they we're kids playing. I know even as girls females don't play with or hang around boys they don't like or at least think is cute. Powder triple because she worshipped her big sister. So she would 100 percent blow Ekko off just to be anywhere her sister is at all times.
@peach-tea16922 жыл бұрын
The beginning was so cool. The editing was just *chefs kiss* like the twists and turns part OooH so good.
@sxd.txwn_2 жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and said "IF ONLY" 😭
@monkestudios29272 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the reason she flinched when Ekko touched her leg was cuz she either A didn’t like physical touch or B she got flustered and startled
@akakaakaka52 жыл бұрын
I thought im the only one who see that something would grow up between Viktor and jayce
@TFF_Onida2 жыл бұрын
3:21 Varus mains screaming at the screen.
@drvke97822 жыл бұрын
Great videos mate, I think you should make a discord server at some point, I think it would be cool for some community interaction as you continue with your channel. Once again love the vids.
@NoseyOk2 жыл бұрын
True
@carsonterreault90642 жыл бұрын
I don’t really think jinx would really wanna date someone she grew up with due to her perspective of life
@MelPal07062 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m saying this ship is SO one sided do people not get that jinx doesn’t like him or even powder or that ekko was the only one that had this feelings for powder (who is dead) not jinx
@carsonterreault90642 жыл бұрын
Another thing I don’t get is that everyone is basically an enemy to her there’s no Pleasant Terry outcome to that you get too close to her and happen to make her angry she’ll kill you even I know that good grief
@rabbit_skull69032 жыл бұрын
People ship jinx with people?
@decentgrocerybag40032 жыл бұрын
I only started shipping JayVik as a joke. My friend is an extreme LoL/Arcane nerd and asked me to tell her about my experience watching it for the first time, sort of like live tweeting. Just to irritate her, I kept on writing missassumptions and interpret things weirdly. One of which was Jayce and Victor having a thing. Then when I searched for memes to annoy her with, it kinda started to make sense to me… And now it’s weird. I don’t think they should end up together at all, and I think if Riot made it canon I wouldn’t like it as much. But I love seeing and making fancontent of them together.
@conniebruh6995 Жыл бұрын
It started as a joke for me too, I told my friend how they look like they have a thing and immediately he said that he also thought about it, they were suuuupeer sus but I would like them to be together or at least be a good friendly relationship, they did so much for each other that ending things had really hurts lol
@xeviktin62032 жыл бұрын
My ship: Sky 🚢 Viktor 🥳 * 2:34 happens* “Hold on I NEED to get this other ship, sink that one like the Titanic.”
@arigogrr2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this was mentioned before but the champion Varus is a combination of three men. A Darkin, and two lovers named Kai and Valmar. So technically there is a canon League of Legends mlm relationship in the overall lore. I don’t know what they’ll do for Arcane if anything at all, but I just thought you’d want to know :)
@editz4u9562 жыл бұрын
I feel that Caitlyn and Vi have so much connection and could be so much more and I hope to see something along the lines of that in the next season
@20000dino2 жыл бұрын
The thing that always annoys me is how everyone just assumes Powder "doesn't feel the same way" towards Ekko with literally no evidence. I can guarantee that, not only is Ekko's voice line in the game the sole reason why they're shipped by the Arcane fandom in the first place, it's also the reason why the fandom interprets their crush as being unrequited from Jinx's side - considering she doesn't seem to have a unique voice line for him. The thing is, if people are open to suspend their disbelief enough to interpret their scenes together as children as being emblematic of the prospect of there being a crush at all - scenes which are more easily interpreted as them simply being friendly and close to each other -, why would they also simply settle for unrequited love just because "the game said so" ? Like the prospect of them having a crush in Arcane, there is also no concrete evidence (both as children and adults) on this crush being unrequited, besides the game's voice lines being one-sided - and, time and time again, we've seen Arcane grabbing ideas from the game, but then changing them in at least one way or completely turning them on their heads. This is coming from someone who actually ships them - I just hate how limited and unnuanced the fandom's perspective is.
@NRG-REC2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed this and I can't pinpoint why that's the default state for so many. I have to wonder what those same people will say if we get flashbacks to their past and a romantic interest from her side is presented. There are some people who just dont like the ship and swear jinx was never interested as a way to discredit it without getting any flack but there are others who just accept that as fact without any evidence to back it up and atleast some evidence to oppose it in that at the very least they were close. I actually came across a timebomb hint post on Twitter earlier and there's actually a lot going on with ekko and jinx behind the scenes that riots been building on for about 6 years.
@serendipitysirens2 жыл бұрын
You have even less proof she does feel the same.
@firstnamelastname25172 жыл бұрын
i really like ekko flipping off the cops.
@ralponponpon93942 жыл бұрын
varus, before he was varus he was 2 guys who loved each each other and fell in this weird pond thing where they were "combined"
@oogwaytheotakuclips43702 жыл бұрын
Him saying that Viktor didn't show any attraction toward his assistant Viktor after accidentally killing her and going through her notes * Speaks in Anakin * what have i done
@TheUnhappyporky692 жыл бұрын
he meant SOMETHING to her, you could tell by the way she looked at him on the bridge
@moongod99822 жыл бұрын
Yeah Ekko ain’t for Jinx because you know why Jinx is my girl, my wife, and my Queen, I’m the only one who can handle her craziness and energy
@infinitydamouseaj6292 жыл бұрын
Why can’t people just allow Jinx and/or Ekko to be aro ace lol, or just let Jinx be aro/ace, just being friendly/not hurting your old friend doesn’t mean there’s a romantic relationship.
@maitebenegas47042 жыл бұрын
Ekko isn't aro because he cannonicly had a crush on Jink when they were younger. I am all for aroace Jink tho, not like she could have a healthy romantic relationship with the way she is
@DechatolacMango6512 жыл бұрын
Because that's BS! Ekko in his VL in the game explicitly said that he was in love with her and that was back in 2015!!!! And now because a writer didn't know how to write the relationship between them when they were children and forced them (when it wasn't necessary) to be enemies, are we to assume that they shouldn't be together? That's utter garbage.
@ormedare76152 жыл бұрын
it was the cutest and the most relatable "don't judge me" ever 0:26
@zayamoone7 ай бұрын
I really don’t see how “No… not in front of… all of them” is evidence for Jayvik, it’s Viktor not wanting to go out on stage in front of all of those people because he’s nervous. He’s the introverted, behind-the-scenes one of the two, it’s kind of his Whole Thing that he goes unnoticed and unknown in comparison to Jayce, which is communicated well in his disinterest in going out in front of a crowd that size (which of course is because he’s an introvert, but it lends itself well to his whole thing)
@Whatsitwhoseitdang Жыл бұрын
You gonna tell me that look over her shoulder when he remembered the game they played as kids wasn't a flirt before they fought each other. She mimicked his movements and everything before it went down. If the point of that fight is to show ekko grew up while jinx was still the girl of calamity, then that emotional portrayal shows how she felt back then while being more capable of expressing it now. She Def has feelings for him, she just won't let that get in the way of what she wants to do/who she believes she is now, a curse, who's bad for anyone she gets close to, becoming jinx was simply embracing that, and at least as enemies they know not to let their guard down against her allowing her to do actual harm to them.
@cracked90man2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks Viktor has feelings for Jayce is just being silly. Every reason they have towards this theory would be things Viktor does or says being taken out of context. Viktor doesn't want to be on stage because he's nervous. Viktor rejects Skye because he's caught up in his work. Not because he's gay.
@twentysecondcenturywoman Жыл бұрын
It’s not that they were scared to show a lesbian kiss, it’s the fact there wasn’t a reason for it yet. That would be too rushed, I’m sure in season 2 vi & Cait will get together.
@stuffynosepatrol2 жыл бұрын
I think Ekko is in a relationship with that bat guy from the firelights, it's subtle but they have a few interactions. I can't see him with Jinx, I think that was just an innocent childhood friendship.
@scheimaa1722 жыл бұрын
The bat guy seems have a child though, probably married.
@stuffynosepatrol2 жыл бұрын
@@scheimaa172 we don't see his partner, so she is most likley dead - or he adopted an orphan child.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffynosepatrol he is just second in command. There is nothing romantic there
@stuffynosepatrol2 жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl fair enough, but there is definatley nothing going on between Ekko and Jinx either
@DechatolacMango6512 жыл бұрын
@@stuffynosepatrol We will see that in season 2 buddy
@lackinggnat2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Kai and Valmar (the two guys that are also a part of Varus), are the only canonically gay couple in League. There's also pulsefire Ezreal and Ekko but it was just hinted as subtlety as a whale hiding behind a street sign.
@sirenastellataa2 жыл бұрын
I think Jinx really trusts Ekko in a special way. She has horrible episodes whenever someone from her past is brought up (Vi, Mylo, Claggor, Vander, even herself - Powder) but not with Ekko. She is even sarcastic and playful.
@hippieskye8794 Жыл бұрын
3:25 THERE IS! kind... Twisted Fate and Graves are confirmed to be exes who are kinda trying to make it work, Varrus is two male lovers trapped in the same body as a demon, Ksant'e is coping with the fact that his boyfriend left him.
@plzleavemealone96602 жыл бұрын
3:24 Varus. He got a whole music video and I'm pretty sure it was a big thing back when it came out. But lol with it's ties to China, specifically Tencent.... Yeah...
@anonymousgiraffe32232 жыл бұрын
powder/jinx was 10-11 at that time. she probably didn’t feel any romantic attraction at all
@iamjacksselfloathing48572 жыл бұрын
I doubt you will see much growth in Jinx, relationship wise. People she loves either die or abandon her, so to Jinx love is weakness. Vi has a chance at reaching her but it should take time to re-establish that sisterly connection since Jinx is broken but thinks it's the world and everyone else that's broken. The Vi/Cait relationship will hopefully grow since even the game gives bonuses for pairing them together. Over all this was an excellent origin story for Jinx and the world she lives in and I look forward to spending more time exploring it.
@SockOrSomething2 жыл бұрын
I think part of her realized it was her that was broken. The world too but I think she knows. She can even joke about it. “i’m not that crazy.”
@Edwardisthatyou2 жыл бұрын
In canon lore in league Varus is a gay character and the only I can think of, he has a music video (Varus - as we fall) and a comic that shows the story of the two warriors lovers that by war became one by the power of a demon bow and form the character that we play in the game. I personally think that in arcane most character (piltover and Zaun) can be gender fluid cause there seems to be no sign of discrimination against sexual preference. And seem to be a place with no gender roles as we see women and men be on the same levels. I think is more a think of abilities and talents kind of society where being smart or physically strong is what determinate your place in society. Also the creators (of arcane, not the game) said that they imagined a place where sexuality was not and issue or a topic of interest.
@heavy_rain17772 жыл бұрын
"I had a crush, till you started talking to the gun" Ekko to Jinx in LOL
@dantefox80292 жыл бұрын
As odd as it sounds - Silco and Vander. Listen. I could absolutely see them as being a couple, or even married before the whole drowning thing. They absolutely act like bitter exes.
@jauxro2 жыл бұрын
agree. exes whomst murder each other in the divorce. not out of a need for violence necessarily but because killing the other feels like self defense
@dantefox80292 жыл бұрын
@@jauxro Exactly yeah. It was a very messy, violent break-up. Though I don't think it came out of nowhere, as you said, it was probably out of self defense.
@jovivianed46022 жыл бұрын
Things that feel gay and homophobic at the same time #1: *jayce*
@PulseStar5k2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, as always :) And I like your voice, it really relax me ^^
@lukeskay52442 жыл бұрын
Early!
@Luksed122 жыл бұрын
ye me too
@erdnuzz83682 жыл бұрын
Ekko and Powder are actually this "One sided love"-Dilemma. You can see it in her reaction. Event when they had their little fight- she just remembered their fun as kids, and had fear in her eyes like shes betrayed from an old friend. But there was no love-thing. Just a really deep bonded-past-long gone-friendship bond. Ekko on the other hand looked and acted different towards her. He was looking after her, mostly fixated on her when they were in a grp. I think he had feelings for her.
@MitchellTF2 жыл бұрын
Everybody, everybody, everybody's kissing in Pilto-ver.
@Mast3rKK Жыл бұрын
i was so mad until i saw cursed jinx in the pfp and realized its toonaholic
@raygeorge5854 Жыл бұрын
Now, I'm very late to this seeing as it was posted a year ago, but I'll give my input in all of this: Jinx and Ekko, sadly, will not be together. I just can't see Ekko letting everything Jinx did go, his sense of righteousness wouldn't allow it. He'd constantly be wondering if/when she'd snap and become a warden rather than a romantic partner in a relationship with her. Jinx on the other hand is too focussed on revenge against the council. Losing her sister for years because of imprisonment, losing Silko (really her only rock after Vander dies) due to her paranoia regarding his possible betrayal with a member of Piltover's council and losing Vi again (in her eyes) to Caitlyn; a "dog" of Piltover. She just wants to cause chaos and hurt right now, so she would not be suitable for any romantic involvement. Do I think the two of them might have had something had everything not gone down the drain? 100%. I think Ekko and Jinx may have grown to like one another as they grew older and built gadgets to help Vi and the others on their raids. I definitely think there was potential and we might even at some point hear Ekko confess how he used to feel about her and possibly have a moment of Jinx reaffirming her own past feelings for him before the two have another huge showdown. It would definitely raise the stakes for the audience. Viktor and Jayce, personally I always saw them as best friends. Viktor strikes me more of an Aromantic and possibly Asexual person. I don't really think they were hinting towards a romantic connection between the two, but rather a really close bond between friends/brothers, who shared the same dreams and appreciation for the expansion and discovery of new and exciting technologies. Now, I haven't played LoL but from my understanding there are many more regions and characters to explore and introduce, so I don't know if season 2 would focus on the current events, we might skip over to a completely new region and begin telling other characters' stories before going back to Piltover and Zaun and seeing how everything is going after Jinx's attack at the end of the first season.
@Danny-od1ks2 жыл бұрын
I don't take Ekko's line in LoL "I had a crush..." seriously and I don't think Jinx does too, Jinx in Lol is 21 and Ekko is 16_17.
@FeatheredWingz2 жыл бұрын
Also, I'm not into League, just Arcane. But I have been watching all the music videos and cinematics cuz they all are gorgeous too. (Seeing Jinx as an anime magical girl in the Burning Bright mv after really only experiencing her base design/personality...was something) Anyway, there is apparently a canon mlm ship (sort of) in League I think???? Represented in one of the MVs. The "As We Fall" music video shows how in-game champion, Varus, is comprised of three minds/souls; two of them are tragic lovers whose struggle to save each other was thwarted by the third entity, a darkin. It's more like a ship-in-limbo tho, since both people are unable to really exist properly (if they're consciousness is even still a thing in Varus' body), so yeah.
@Kilanio2 жыл бұрын
Someone probably already pointed it out but if you watch the music video on Varus' backstory "As we fall" you see two men that sort of become Varus, as war as I know they are canonicly a couple
@witchplease96952 жыл бұрын
Ekko and jinx make no sense. People keep clinging onto the line from the game, but the show and game are NOT the same and much of the lore has been changed, there is no indication in the show that Ekko ever had feelings for her, only that they were friends. And now that she’s murdered his friends and family, he has absolutely no reason to give a damn about her and is justified in wanting to kill her. Also zero indication that Jinx likes Ekko, only thing we know is at one point they were friends and played together as kids do. People are projecting their feelings for Jinx onto Ekko and vice versa. Jayvik also makes no sense but fangirls will always ship the most nonsensical and unrealistic ships. Only canon and realistic ships are Mel/Jayce and Vi/Cait. The others are just fangirls wet dreams.
@andie62572 жыл бұрын
In lor there is actually a lot of lgbtq characters, there's a transgender celestial, an mlm couple in one body(varus) and two lesbian aspect of sun and moon who are in denial (Leona and Diana) and so many more I kinda forgot
@mousey85892 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into Arcane and I found your video. I love Jinx but I'm still getting to know the characters.
@Bringthemhome72 жыл бұрын
I live for gay ships but this is the first time I didn't felt it, I thought Victor is better on his own, cuz he focus on his work more than anything
@findmywellbeing5372 жыл бұрын
At the end, i still love and ship Jayce and Viktor and no one's gonna change that ever otherwise.
@error81192 жыл бұрын
Ekko has this gay on again off again thing with this dude whose name I can’t remember. It’s not a main storyline one but in one of the dlc’s he’s basically time traveling boyfriends with someone else. Funny thing is half of the fandom heavily ships Jinx with Lux and the other half has this guy dating Lux. So Riot can really just give us two gay ships that actually make sense if they feel the need to.
@sumrandomdude5702 Жыл бұрын
Jinx is literally female Joker. When I recently saw Arcane, I literally thought this the entire time when she was on screen.
@azrael202622 жыл бұрын
honestly (if it did happen) I would like to think that if Ekko and Jynx liked eachother, that Ekko brought Jynx back to the light and she became powder again. But we cant have nice things in this world can we
@TheWarriorVA2 жыл бұрын
Here is the problem. Ekko X Jinx was one-sided even when they were kids. There was nothing saying Powder liked Ekko back. So that ship is a dud on the spot.
@expressodepresso59092 жыл бұрын
"Ekko and Himerdinger" atm I'm sick, and I hope to god what I heard was a fever dream
@sydneyhickman39032 жыл бұрын
the biggest reason they dont have any LGBT lore in league is because they wanted to keep on good terms with china
@redeye55562 жыл бұрын
examples of gay couples in lore Varus(literary 2 gay men in 1 body) Diana x Leona (were together when they were younger) Neeko (More pansexual though) rell( Very Bi) TF and graves( Could have been gay and incredibly hinted at but riot happened) Taric( Oozes gay vibes)
@yewyew88512 жыл бұрын
"Jinx is just like ah.. female Joker. You just CAN'T tie that down" Yes. Yes.
@kastersounds85647 ай бұрын
Canonical gay couples in league: Graves and Twisted fate Varus and Aldar canonical lesbian couples in league: Vi and Caitlyn Leona and Diana Neeko and Nidalee