Arcane Season 2's Ending... What?

[@SarcasticChorus]

What did y’all think of Act 3?

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Amazing.

[@dylanbroome7915]

One word tears But also i loved it jinx death was unexpected and tear jerking but im wondering if your going to do a shipping video about jinx and ekko

[@goldfox3885]

Very full of divorce and sesbian lex and say gex

[@aaronitodo2678]

9-9.5/10. I have some mixed thoughts and opinions

[@clarissarivera1472]

Broke me into little pieces

[@Aaron_Salloway]

Ekko out her playing a dating sim while Jayce is trying to beat Elden Ring.

[@wastelifetakenotes]

underrated comment😂

[@francisxavier8374]

it was more akin silent hill than elden ring dude isnt doing any dodge rolls with a busted knee

[@obaolade1232]

nah through cause i was playing elden ring boss music in my head during that fight scene

[@spamton-e]

Like when Jayce was banging Mel while Victor was dying

[@CrashBandicootFan100]

Trying to beat Elden Ring as Igon*

[@spennyspectacular353]

The ending was perfect. Especially the part where Jinx and Ekko got married and raised Isha and ruled over Zaun together. Wouldn't change a thing.

[@rottemgolan7241]

LMAOOOOOO REAL

[@cinderfeather]

I dunno if I would call it PERFECT...BUT it is good

[@neruya09]

Your comment made me smile so hard

[@Doze1202]

I know…this is a good ending for a good show

[@mrs.chrispark4907]

Indeed that’s also the ending I watched I don’t get what people are talking about

[@Jonathan_Collins]

My man Ekko gave up the universe of his dreams so he could save everyone. Truly the GOAT. He certainly lived up to his title of "The Boy Savior." Loved his character, loved all the characters, loved the music, the animation. All of it!

[@michaelstrong5383]

Ekko was always one of my favorite characters on this show, but this final act made him even better.

[@michaelcarlson1208]

Correction, "The Boy Who Shattered Time" I WILL DIE on this hill

[@SedriqMiers]

Ekko paid a sacrifice so did Powder too but the plot armor of the LGBTQ Caitlin managed to survive despite the miserable void in V's heart having lost, Vander, Powder, Isha and Ekko enjoy. Imo episodes 1 to 6 Season 2 are brilliant. Unfortunately 7 to 9 are poorly scripted and executed they just ruin what could have been a great season to end with. Where LGBTQ dogma ruins a great story as it fails to bring a realistic closer that's befitting to all instead it just doubles down on dismembering Powder's and Vanders memory.

[@philly_sports1558]

Yeah dude really sacrificed a great life with his old mentor and friends still alive where his childhood crush ended up being his girlfriend. All for the sake of saving his friends in his universe. Dude deserves all the props in the world.

[@Adam-326]

@@Jonathan_Collins But those *aren't* his people. They're replacements. He'd never forget the originals and, furthermore, what happened to the Ekko who's spot he took? He doesn't seem like the kind of person that could live a lie like that.

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

Ekko's back must need surgery. He undebatably broke it from carrying the fate of the world on it. Joking aside, Arcane was more than just a TV show. It was an experience. And, Holy God, it was an amazing one. It had its flaws, but I truly enjoyed being along for the ride, and I say this as someone who got into the series a couple of months ago.

[@geenoenmaarwelkoen]

And arcane is just the beginning of alot of these great stories, more will come. Arcane really is a great example of how a fantastic storyline is written with wonderfully written characters

[@jormungandr4690]

Jayce did like 90% of carrying

[@alansraj5078]

I feel he needs knee surgery

[@leovk5779]

@@jormungandr4690 Only in the final act. Before that, Jayce constantly drops the ball at almost every turn. But, yes, he does redeem himself at the very end.

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

The funniest part is I'm almost certain people will be more mad that Maddie slept with Cait than they will be about the betrayal still. Ekko was the MVP for everything

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Hell, my friends all cheered when it happened.

[@haroldoxygen5581]

I prob never knew that because in season 1 She was very young, i’d never knew she grew up so fast to be a traitor. (Edit) Sry i did some research again i didnt say that correctly lmao

[@michaelstrong5383]

*Maddie:* "I've always enjoyed your warmth." *Me:* _"OH, SHUT UP!"_

[@Adam-326]

I mean, the betrayal means that their favorite ship can get back on track, so it makes sense.

[@snakesnoteyes]

@@michaelstrong5383 Maddie getting basically own domed after that line was so satisfying

[@MALØR.34]

In the very first episode of the show, Powder saw a blimp and said "One day, I'm gonna ride one of those things." I strongly believe she's still alive. That last shot is there for a reason.

[@ghostwolf6765]

If you slow down that final explosion scene. You can see a pink line which is jinx using shimmer to escape out the air duct.

[@aro4322]

you guys are coping too hard man

[@Barmaglott17]

@@aro4322 coping means "having eyes"?

[@ethan414]

@@aro4322 i think she should have died but unfortunately i dont think she did

[@captainziggy82]

@@aro4322the animators spend weeks on like, 3 seconds of the show. Every detail is intentional. I wouldn’t call it coping

[@tinkerframe592]

I think the core issue with season 2 is that we no longer spend enough time with each character to fully understand their actions and motivations until everything fully pans out, whereas in season 1 we knew EXACTLY what each character’s motivations were and EXACTLY how they all impact each other. season 2 just doesn’t have the time to fully explore things and so plot takes precedent over character. Still loved it tho lol

[@Just_a_random_dudee]

I totally agree with you. In season one, their stories were really close : Viktor and Jayce, Cait and Vi, Jinx and Silco etc. were almost together all the time so there were few stories to follow. In season 2, everyone split and have their own development which was really hard to follow

[@BuddyChy]

I thought it gave every character plenty of time and didn’t spend too much time fleshing out things that ultimately weren’t necessary. There’s people for example saying VI’s underground boxing arc needed a whole episode which would’ve been such a waste of time of time. There’s already parts of season 2 that REALLY takes its time so doing a lot more of that would’ve made the season feel so dragged out. The way they did it was neither dragged out nor rushed imo. The biggest things to me are just the uncertainty and impression of death so many characters got. My biggest surprise was how it appears that so many champions are possibly dead including Ambessa, Jayce, Viktor, Heimerdinger, Jinx, and Warwick. That’s what I find most unexpected and gives me pause and curiosity about whether we will actually get more of them in the future. Ambessa is the only one who clearly seems to have died, but the rest all have possible excuses for how they may have survived some way somehow. Jinx and Warwick have both survived explosions before because they’re built different. Jayce, Viktor, and Heimerdinger all disappear in ways that look no different from how they originally were transported through time and space so who knows if they’re actually out there somewhere. But in a vacuum of the two seasons as a complete story, I believe everyone’s arcs actually were wrapped up really well.

[@jlhn]

​@@BuddyChy Tbh I don't they actually gave enough time to each character lmao Like at first I was scratching my head about Viktor because it seemed so sudden his change from pacifist humanity loving hippie Jesus to "I WANT GLORIOUS EVOLUTION AND GET RID OF HUMANITY'S EMOTIONS" plus using the hextech to create soldiers But then I stopped and thought about it, then realized that Viktor was probably emotionally (and physically) hurt by Jayve shooting at him. Like the cult (I mean, commune) was probably Viktor's version of their Hextech dream, so he must've been really hurt/angry by what Jayce did and then lashed out and justified his emotions with logic (no, it's not that he was hurt, it was just that the glorious evolution and getting rid of humanity' imperfections to erase their mistakes and pain in general was the next logical step) Then that would also explain why he stopped so fast after Jayce was back with him, he didn't care about perfection, he just wanted to be with his partner again BUT BOY I didn't understand any of that the first time I watched it I was just confused as to why Viktor was changing his mind so quick lol

[@jormungandr4690]

Yeah it basically had 2 stroylines the one with the world at stake and the one where characters just play mean girls relationship

[@MrMarvell]

Summed up perfectly, I'm not having a go at them but the people who prefer season 2 are too persuaded by special moments. Season 2 was amazing, but didn't quite stick the landing like season 1 did.

[@advil9567]

The reason why Silco is in the alternate universe is explained by the letter Vander wrote to him, but never found in the universe we’re more familiar with. The letter was actually found in this universe, leading to some sort of reconciliation and forgiveness. This makes sense considering their rivalry was never really born out of a hatred for each other, rather just a difference in priorities. They shared the same dream, but Vander prioritized his children first; Silco thought this was weakness. They still love each other deep down, which is why they were able to forgive each other in the first place. This couldn’t have happened if there was a greater emotional disconnect between the two.

[@cauvangquaygame8524]

I just remember after Ekko said "Didn't you tried to kill him?" Asking Silco based on his timeline, and Silco is the one talking about forgiveness, BOTH OF THEM THOUGHT EKKO WAS DIRECTED AT VANDER FOR TRYING TO KILLED SILCO, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, I JUST NOW SEE IT THANK TO YOUR COMMENT

[@TheHawkssong]

@@cauvangquaygame8524 We never got what Silco did to make Vander want to kill him, he said Silco went to far, we needed more. Why was silco trying to kill his friends kids. Im talking about the mother, he knew her, he knew those were her kids. Again someone told them to change things I can feel it.

[@ShadowS1LV3R]

@@TheHawkssongdifference of priorities. Having Felicia’s kids around who were raised by Vander were just going to lead to more problems down the road if he leaves em be. From a villain standpoint, why not remove all the things standing in his way, past present or future.

[@Barmaglott17]

I can imagine that not even the letter could've made the difference, but just the news that one of Felicia's daughters Vander was taking care of died. Silco could've come to "visit an old freind" just to scold him, or try to turn him on war path again, and that lead up to them finally talking normally. After all, doctor Revek was only testing shimmer that day. The worst could've still been averted.

[@tomthepeaceful]

Yeah it makes perfect sense and if there’s no rivalry between vander and silco the undercity would never have been flooded with shimmer, which is why they’re all able to live nice lives.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

- Vi was the last person Vander saw in Season 1 - Jinx was the last person Warwick saw in Season 2

[@MagiaBased]

calling that abomination WW is gonna make me puke

[@azzywitch]

@@MagiaBased Yeah, I really thought and wished they made him fully transform after isha sacrificed herself.

[@owl8185]

@@MagiaBasedLeague fans are insufferable. Arcane is its own thing, you guys just wanted everyone to end up as they are in League and then the story ends there 😭

[@whiteboikev]

ok? lol

[@marcosramirez2278]

​​@@owl8185Arcane is part of the League of Legends lore now. Riot confirmed it themselves. So WW is retconned into what he is now.

[@sidewire8777]

I got to say i feel like this show would have worked a lot more as a 3 season story like a proper trilogy. Am which I think could have fixed a lot of the pacing problems

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Too bad we live in the Dark age of animation.

[@gonzalomendez4623]

As much as I loved this season I agree 100%, most of the plot lines for this season really did need either another season to flesh everything out or to just add a few extra episodes to allow everything to flow more naturally.

[@crypticmrchimes]

Personally I’m a firm believer that this season could have really benefited from a Shakespearean 5-Act structure with the first act acting as a prologue to resolve the fallout of season 1, 3 acts to space out the pacing of the story and acting as the main tragedy, & a final act devoted to the battle + its aftermath to provide proper resolutions to everything.

[@hanniaedithmartinezadame794]

I think it was supposed to be 5 seasons, but the creator said nah, only 2 XD

[@mrcheese5383]

I think adding two more episodes would have solved the pacing issues. One before the time skip and one before the battle at the end

[@ryderls2729]

She's alive, the shimmer spark right before the explosion, Caitlyn studying the vents and seeing that Jinx could escape, the blimp at the end was Jinx leaving Zaun since she said in episode 1 that she'll fly one of those someday. They set up her needing to " walk away" in order for the cycle to end, so she faked hee death so everyone could move one

[@toan.2764]

this is real and not cope (im coping so hard). Jokes aside yea but i will probably never feel safe until i see Jinx alive in the flesh again

[@e-man7418]

@@toan.2764 I mean, I buy her being alive. The scene of Cait seeing the vents sold me on it. But I think it’s supposed to be up to interpretation, you’re allowed to think she just died

[@godofsex7]

I think I saw somewhere that the cocreator confirmed her alive

[@veluvox2038]

Besties, as long as we don't see Powder in flesh and blood, I can't tell myself that she's alive 😔

[@ryderls2729]

@@toan.2764 I'm betting she'll randomly show up for a quick cameo in whatever the next show will be

[@COCO-tm3gp]

It’s still crazy that Singed got to settle down with his daughter after committing countless war crimes and making everyone’s lives worse 💀

[@joeandrew8752]

I saw that and just said “so we just gonna gloss over him resurrecting his daughter while playing a hand in the destruction of piltover with ambasa, twisting vander into a Frankenstein monster Warwick, shimmer for silco and the Chem barrons? This guy gets a happy ending?”

[@Moretropes11]

It would’ve been better if we see him dying and his daughter slowly opens her eyes

[@sebastiansuazo2734]

​@@joeandrew8752yeah, sounds likd zinged, the long term player to me

[@politecookie2668]

The way Ekko ends up all alone after doing everything right but Singed gets a happy ending after numerous war crimes💀

[@joelhernandez3788]

I like it. Kinda reminds me of game of thrones... when it was good obviously

[@CaroGomezCarrillo]

On Jinx faking her death. When she left Vi in the cell she was convinced that Vi would never be able to be happy with Cait as long as she's there. In her comeback she's more upbeat about it, however her conclusion is the same. She came back to save Vi, leting her know that she still loves her but she was never going to stay. And when she see's Vi unable to save herself crying over vander, she realizes how much Vi still lives for other. That's why she jumps. She wants Vi to let her go and grieve her so she can move on with her life.

[@StarslightAndDreams]

i love this actually. i was going to be fine with either jinx dying or leaving and never coming back. somehow i got both

[@evintyde]

Yeah that's how I saw it too

[@Mathematik_Anhaenger]

But why would she assume that VI cant be happy as long as she is alive? They have no conflict anymore, jinx' mental illness seems to be cured, there is no reason why they could not live in harmony, now that everything is over

[@CaroGomezCarrillo]

@@Mathematik_Anhaenger remember that we as the audience saw Cait accepting and endorcing Vi searching for Jinx. Jinx doesn't, Jinx thinks that Vis love for her is holding her back in living a life that Vi wants. Also still Jinx believes that she's a burden, that doesn't go away in a minute, even after Ekko took her out of blowing herself up, she still feels like a burden to the ppl that she loves.

[@toastysweaters5692]

@@Mathematik_Anhaenger Jinx still killed a whole lot of people, I don’t think her and Vi could have a normal life together, and it’s never specified if Caitlyn ever forgave her for killing her mom. In the end, Vi and Jinx’s bond was forged out of love, but it was always unhealthily codependent. Jinx was right to let Vi live her life without prioritising someone else’s happiness over her own, and it would be good for Jinx to steer faraway from the one place that is the root of all her pain

[@Maxisamo1]

Jinx is alive 100%: - There's a stray purple streak that goes to the side right when the explosion happens - Cait's last scene right before cuddling with Vi is looking through her family's documents about vents in the Hexcore area, and she then looks at the monkeybomb fragment with a smile - The airship with the split-second "The End" in Jinx's style is a callback to S1 E1 where she mentions wanting to be on one, and continues the "walk away" theme in this last act where Jinx is stepping away so there can be peace (and probably going to Noxus or somewhere else)

[@The_Guy_Who_Wanders]

Ekko's time travel adventure: could get laid Jayce's time travel adventure: could get laid in the fucking ground

[@JustLoro]

Hilarious and unfortunate

[@cutiepie120048]

🤣🤣🤣

[@samkaranja5709]

I'm here like so what about Ekko's tree? Is the solution to the class war really just Sevika being on the council? She didn't even get any lines this act! What was the point of Officer "We have Vander at home" Loris. Hey Cait, what fight are you talking about Vi still being in? I understand that you needed the black rose to set up whatever next series you're gonna do next but if that wasn't there, I'd feel like we'd have enough time to develop other things. I really like this season but I'm conflicted. I do love that Heimer went "ain't no way I'm returning to that godforsaken timeline, I play guitar here" and how is it that Singed is the only one who really got what he wanted?!? Commiting war crimes, ruining everything for everyone and getting his daughter back.

[@anastasiayager2476]

Devils advocate here but I found it obvious to me personally that Caitlyn was talking about the fight in Piltover, like she knows everything isn't all shiny and new and good now. Zaun and Piltover still have the issues they had in S1 and it's only now they are at the starting line for conversations between the two.

[@jessicac8090]

I mean the wild rune was destroying echos tree, so now that its gone it should be fine. I agree sevika should have gotten some more screen time and lines but her getting a seat on the council makes sense as in act 1 shes proven herself to try and unite zaun plus she was present in the battle. Also idk LoL lore but apparently singed getting away with everything is a common theme in all of these stories. Like its the most lore accurate thing about this show which i find funny

[@WolfofPride]

@@jessicac8090*Riven seething in the background*

[@fijiguy759]

I think singed got what he wanted because out of all of the characters he kind of kept his eye on the prize the whole way through. Other characters like, Victor, Vi, Jayce, Jinx they all had wildly different things in their journeys to worry about. And only so much time and energy to give to them all. Singed however did whatever he needed to achieve his goal, as messed up as he is, he practically made sure he got what he wanted with no room for error

[@lararys7765]

Caits fight is subjugating Zaun ofc.

[@REAVER117]

Totally with you on the focus on systemic issues in the first season. I was very disappointed with them taking the easy solution of having the city unite to fight an external threat. That's not how you repair long-term systemic issues. If they wanted to tackle an external threat it should have been in a third season after the Piltover / Zaun resolution.

[@Zero-mn8bt]

I was under the impression that societal issues will still exist. Yeah someone from Zaun is on the council now, but the other councillors looked pissed that Sevetka was now on the council, that to me shows the societal issues haven’t been fixed overnight.

[@boltlight1244]

​@@Zero-mn8bt Also, Cait outright said that there will be more conflict. This show doesn't do the whole "hey we're back to the status quo with minimal changes and everything is great now." It's explicitly stated that conflict still exists and will continue. Things are just beginning in Piltover

[@oomay1925]

Ya I agree. I get obviously systemic oppression can't be undone in one season but it was pretty disappointing how it was handled. For Zaunites to sacrifice their lives in a war for a nation that never cared about their lives in the undercity, and in enforcer uniforms at that, is just very poor in taste. All we get is a small moment of Sevika on the council chair after having zero lines in all of Act 3. Getting invested in the politics of season 1 for it to take a backseat to fight Viktor in season 2 is validly disappointing.

[@mhawang8204]

@@oomay1925 It wasn’t for a nation that oppressed them, tho. It was about saving Zaun, too. The Noxians also started the war against them, using Caitlyn as a pawn. They’re not safe when Piltover falls.

[@oomay1925]

@@mhawang8204 ya but Noxians wouldn't have taken up so much power if the enforcers (cough Caitlyn cough) didn't let them input martial law in the first place. The issue with the whole common enemy thing is that it really forced the undercity and the top siders to put aside their differences to fight an outside force to avoid addressing the inner turmoil that was so strongly developed in season 1. Sure we can logically explain why Zaunites had to become enforcers, but that doesn't mean it was a good writing choice tbh.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I like how OG Ekko caught a glimpse of AU Powder and was like, "Can I have this Powder instead?"

[@monkiking778]

He wanted her to be the powder on his cake

[@philly_sports1558]

I hope Sarcastic makes a Ekko x Jinx/Powder video because they ended up being surprisingly adorable

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@philly_sports1558They were so cute!! That episode’s one of my favs from this season.

[@katkillj0y]

you know the proverbial shit has hit the fans when Sarcastic does a face video

[@Truck-kun11]

Ekko is without a doubt the MVP of the story, the kid came in clutch throughout the entire series and sacrificed a perfect life to save his world.

[@vaporwave4880]

Why is everyone always on about Ekko? I thought he was among the least interesting or consequential characters. They just gave him things to do to serve the plot. He had no arc of his own.

[@patrickcarter2829]

​​@@vaporwave4880 he technically did: seeing Jinx/Powder as someone still worth saving. That was his conflict. Throughout Season 1, he kept telling himself that Powder is gone and that Jinx needs to be stopped. After meeting a reality where he sees Jinx/Powder for what she could be, he goes back to help his version of her; he accepts that she's Jinx and wants to help her. It's a more personal arc than normally written.

[@dillydraws]

@@patrickcarter2829 His arc is. "I can fix her"

[@jormungandr4690]

@@vaporwave4880 I dont know why people think that Ekko delivering the core is him being the super MVP. If Jayce doesnt convince Viktor and they dont activate the rune nothing changes

[@XGrandireX]

@@jormungandr4690Ekko invented the Z-Drive through the inversion of the Acceleration rune Viktor gave to Jayce (in all the other timelines he gave Jayce a different rune) and in those other timelines Jayce either never convinced Viktor or it never got to where Hextech was invented. Because of that, Ekko’s presence is the key difference between whether or not Jayce succeeds

[@elbdot]

Something I noticed about both Viktor and Jayce after they got "touched" by the Arcane, is that neither of them are in their right minds in their physical form. Jayce, after returning to his timeline, carried just as much a corruption within him as Viktor did, just that they were on opposite ends of the spectrum - Viktor being detached from his own humanity by seeing the world through the veil of the Arcane, still trying to follow his wish to help others and striving for peace, while Jayce having been touched by pure utter chaos, messing with his emotions, having barely any control over his own mind and lashing out, driven by the glimpses of memories of the promise he made to future Viktor. But it is in the mindscape of the Arcane, when Viktor invites Jayce into his energetical space, that Jayce feels clear-headed again. All of that aggression towards Viktor in the physical plane is gone completely and whenever we saw Viktor in this realm, his eyes also looked clear, wide awake, he seemed himself. Viktor simply got blinded by the arcane in how he sees the world through it, overwhelmed and excited at the possibilities of how he could establish peace with this newfound power without realizing what that would mean for humanity itself. But it was still Viktor in there. It's on the physical plane the corruption of the Arcane shows and when its consciousness intertwines with that of Viktor and Jayce (with Viktor it's most eminent with his distant, detached, almost alien-like stare and whenever his voice gets this dark sound effect, which is not prominent in ALL of his dialog if you listen closely). Like, the arcane clearly has a consciousness, it's alive and can adapt, we established that in S1, but it simply isn't human and has no ill intend like humans do. It doesn't know emotions and the importance of contrast in life. So there wasn't really an active manipulation going on, just Viktor losing himself in the arcane as time passed on. Jayce meanwhile is on the edge 24/7 with his mind a mess from the anomaly he got in touch with, always on guard, aggressive, low levels of trust, haunted by the images he saw. Only in the mindscape he feels like Jayce again. That's why I don't think brutally killing Viktor was Jayce's or future Viktors original intend, as the future version clearly wanted him to talk sense into him and show his past self his faults - but he could not save Jayce from the corruption he experienced traveling through the Arcane, and that's why things got so messy until they were FINALLY able to truly talk and interact in Episode 9.

[@laurennightingale4752]

I really like this as an explanation to the jayce/viktor time travel shenanigans... but if that was the authorial intent it was NOT communicated well. In ep 8 all of Viktor's eeeevil dialogue shows him speaking from that mental/arcane space. Meanwhile all of Jayce's actions and dialogue in ep 5, 6, and 8 leave no hint that he truly believed he could talk Viktor down, going straight to violence every time. "My partner died in this room", but he didn't dude, and you already KNOW THAT. The moment where he refrained from shooting that child showed us that he still had some self-control. Jayce never looked confused, just in pain/fearful or something. He had the same determined look on his face before and after he was sent back through time. There was never a moment where he was like, "Shit, I shouldn't have done that..." he was single-minded focused like he knew exactly what he needed to do. And what he thought he needed to do was nonsensical.

[@mayavniart]

So accurate, i agree with every word. Really well put!

[@nimadarillian8573]

​@@laurennightingale4752 Agreed, it really bothers me how how Jayce after having been sent back by Viktor doesn't act at all like he had that conversation with him. The whole time loop/paradox really seems not fully thought out, like it works emotionally on a first watch without thinking much about it, but the more I think about it the less it makes sense. And rewatching episodes 6, 8 and 9 knowing that this version of Jayce already had a conversation with future Viktor, and that the mysterious hooded figure in the wasteland is Viktor kinda makes everything that is happening bizzare. Might be that I'm just dumb though and overlooking things, but as you said, even if that is the case it means it's badly communicated in the show if it isn't clear even after rewatching the scenes and I see so many other people being confused by it as well

[@laurennightingale4752]

@@nimadarillian8573 I don't think you're overlooking anything, on a rewatch it totally falls apart. ALL Jayce had to do was TOUCH Viktor in episode 6 instead of blasting a fucking hole through his chest. Ep 6 establishes that Viktor could see into the thoughts and memories of the people he touched. He would have seen his future self and bam... problem solved. And if Jayce's corruption/mental instability was the problem, then why tf did Viktor take him to the future and leave him to fuck up his brain in that cave the first place lmao.. it didn't help anything.

[@nimadarillian8573]

Also if the hooded figure in episode 7 has been Viktor all the time, why didn't he say anything? Of course it was way more cinematic to have Jayce suffer and become unhinged in that canyon and have the reveal and conversation with Viktor on that beautiful plain, but there is no in-story reason for it. If Viktor was there with him already, why didn't he say anything? He seemingly has powerful magic now, there was no need for Jayce to be injured, and starved and climb his way up. Even if for some reason Viktor just doesn't have the ability to teleport him on the plain, or heal him, still talking to him would've been so much better for Jayce. They honestly could have had the exact same conversation the moment Jayce entered that dimension. The only reason for them to even have to go to the plain on top is so Jayce can get the other hammer. And even then he could've been much more optimistic and hopeful and also probably avoid hurting himself if Viktor just explained everything to him before and then guided him to the top to get the hammer.

[@derkatzenmensch220]

Only consistent character this season: singed, this guy REALLY wanted his daughter back

[@roosterdf]

Season 1 was a masterpiece of pacing, but season 2 needed 10 maybe 11 episodes. Them needing to fit into 9 episodes was an unfortunate constraint that did the show no favors.

[@joeandrew8752]

Worse that act 3 dealt with multiverse, timetravel somewhat and higher dimensions of consciousness. They really tried a lot and it feels like it just managed to work.

[@thedoobieshrew0244]

The show need 3 seasons. Take the first 6 episodes of season two and add 3 episodes to flesh out caitlins abuse of power and jinx's saviour of zaurn time. Then take episode 7,8,9 and add that to season 3, plus 6 episodes to build the final conflict, ekko and dingers escapades, vanders reveal and jinx and vi's reconciliation and caitlins conflict with ambessa after her realising she's been manipulated. Add actual characterisation to lorris, maddie to add more to her betrayal, actually have saveka do something. There is so much missed and skipped over this season, and the writing and dialogue is sub par, style over substance which is such a bloody shame, don't know what happened.

[@dillydraws]

​@@joeandrew8752 Not a multiverse. Plus LoL already has one. A version of Ekko looked at different realities

[@robertmariscal1489]

It didn't help that the episodes were barely 35-40 minutes each. S1 had almost every episode longer than 40 minutes and some got close to 50. That's like 2-3 episodes of content after 9 episodes.

[@diaaalkateeb5171]

They rushed the end and stuffed the events to act 3 ...to the point that the brain couldn't handle it.😂💔

[@isaw9969]

Its so clear that the Black Rose plot was just a soft pilot of the next league show, taking place in Noxus. i dont play league, i deliberately did not read up on the black rose because i trusted arcane would make it clear to me as a non-player (the way season 1 also made league related stuff clear without having to know the lore beforehand) and im as confused as when it was first introduced. ok so the black rose is... a group of mages, i guess? and theyre fighting ambessa because, uhm, ambessa wants to start/help with the robot uprising, i guess (even tho this was before her team up with Viktor), i guess? and mel just knows how to use her powers without practise, because mages of the black rose (which are all mages, i guess?) are just that special? and mel is an empath, but has the power to energy blast and create shields, because, uhm, thats how empaths work? im so annoyed. this plot was clearly forced in. they could have given Mel a plot wherein she was confronted with her complicity in the oppression of Zaun. where she was shown that her inaction (as a compensation for her mothers aggresive action in the past) is just as harmfull as the outright hatred of the other councilors. but, nope. magical girl mel. i fucking guess. im tired.

[@patrickcarter2829]

As someone who does know the lore, it's kinda ironic. Learning more about the Black Rose allowed for an easier time grasping how the Medardas fit into Arcane's conflict. This is definitely a, "if you know, you know" moment in the story, for lore enthusiasts.

[@StarslightAndDreams]

oh imagine if they sent mel to zaun for example! such a cool plot opportunity

[@brendajameson5093]

I agree Mel should've had more to do, but the Mel/Zaun plotline would have been redundant because she already knew all that. That's why she brokered for peace at the end of S1 and didn't want to invade, or use Hextech in S2. She also sponsored Hextech, which included technology to help the undercity.

[@ktownshutdown21]

Her subplot was so tedious, bro. I was doing the Judge Judy Hurry Up meme to try to make whatever the hell was happening relevant to the plot, and all it did was give her some new powers? Did we really need like 4 episodes to establish this?? I was interested in how Mel was going to stand up until an even more war hungry Ambessa after the Council attack, but if they were just gonna rip her away from the rest of the cast for so long, she might as well have been iced then and that's what drives Ambessa over the edge. Someone else could've taken out Maddie, because Mel didn't do fuck else this season.

[@chadbene1048]

Ong the black rose was so detrimental to the plot, and if you watch just the show ur just left in the dark. I have a friend who plays league and he gave me like a basic breakdown but even then the black rose’s presence in the show felt so unnatural, especially since the evil sorcerer kinda just dies at the end after being (barely) established as something incredibly dangerous. Also since the first season felt like normal humans tampering with things they shouldn’t (the arcane) suddenly having magic in the new season was so jarring, esp as a non LoL fan.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I'm still trying to recover what I saw from the finale, but I still consider Arcane to be one of the absolute phenomenal shows and one of my all time favorites in general. The episode with Ekko in the alternate timeline is the best.

[@philly_sports1558]

Yeah Season 2 Episode 7 was the best episode of the whole show in my opinion

[@cartoonishidealism582]

I feel like it’s the best because it’s the only episode this season that doesn’t feel like it’s racing lol It takes its time, it lets us focus on Ekko and his feelings and his relationships with other characters. No running from one plot beat to another, no drastic shifts in personality and motivation.

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

I love it when shows turn out to be actual tv shows and not junk thrown on a screen. Theres so much rich story and its very well done. And Arcane is a great example of that. I hope media comes back to this standard, even if we dont get a new movie every few years.

[@jadegecko]

Jayce straight up "your imperfections are beautiful"'d Viktor Also, am I the only person who read Ep7 as an homage to Remember from She-Ra?

[@hazelwi]

okay so maybe don't break me?

[@falconeshield]

Yup! It was like a grown up version of that. Held no punches compared to the og.

[@worldfuturestar]

Oh my god so I'm not the only one that immediately thought about Entrapta and Hordak

[@DaniReacts13]

@@worldfuturestar It was a very Entrapdak moment, but that's actually the core of their relationship so it feels genuine. On the other hand, I felt Jayce said that way out of the blue .

[@neutrari]

YES!! i immediately thought of shera when he said that line

[@chrishaven1489]

35:00 Thank you. Piltover and Zaun have very culturally specific issues, and I absolutely hate that those issues were sidelined to introduce an endgame final battle with the Noxians. I hate that so much

[@Jaxsin7]

Putting Ekko in Episode 7 of your show is currently an undefeated formula for greatness.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

[@trentonbuchert7342]

I found Maddie to be rather disappointing. I wasn’t really surprised with the betrayal, but I had hoped for a bit more complexity. I assumed she would be a cautionary tale about how fascism is seductive. I suppose I just read a layer deeper into the character than the writers intended. It’s disappointing how Maddie only seems to have existed to be a plot device.

[@isabelgruner3117]

10:31 no- SC, it’s the letter. Jinx and Vi were in the cave and found Vander and Silco’s gay hideout. Jinx then reads out an apology letter Vander wrote, and she literally comments “if Silco read this… things could have been so different”. That’s why silco is there in this universe!! Because he got an apology!! And he forgave vander!!

[@notmynamedammit]

It's so fucking funny to me that SC can go on about the subtext between Viktor and Jayce (even before the big homoerotic ending), a relationship where the writers said they intended it to be platonic and completely misses the hints about the pairing that probably actually was intended by the writers to be read that way, Silco and Vander.

[@sebastiansuazo2734]

​​@@notmynamedammitsweetie, what are you doing looking for a serious analitic reading of a show like arcane in this channel of all places?? This moron has showed too many times the way his brain is wired makes him incapable of doing something like that with a show that has a complexity beyond early 2000's cartoons 😅

[@maximechappellaz9192]

Arcane needed at least one more season. as much as they like to say it was always the plan to do two seasons, it clearly needed more. I'm still happy with season 2, but it needed more time.

[@isaw9969]

As much as i adore arcane (which, trust me; its a lot. i was dying when s1 dropped and it actually gave me drive to get better), season 2 just felt ... empty. it left me dissapointed, because it simply did not deliver well on any of the things set up in season 1, and leaves more questions than answers - something which a season finale should NOT do.. A few problems i have (buckle in kiddos) > remember when this show was about discrimination, oppression, conflict and corrupt governments? dont worry, the writers didnt remember either! why do they spend whole season 1 setting up the tension and breaking point between Zaun and Piltover, only for season 2 to be like "uhm well akshually Noxus is the big baddie and with the power of friendship we must defeat them!!!" like... thats so fucking lazy. Its borderline insulting how the Zaunites were faced with police aggression from Piltover their whole existence, only to be expected to pick up the enforcer uniform in s2act3 and fight to defend the city which has let them rot. its mindboggling to me that they decided to not go into the conflict between those cities (the CORE OF THE SHOW), and instead end it with Sevika gaining a seat in the council, wildly outnumbered by topsiders and without any hints as to what happened between the cities further. > also remember when it was about conflict between different ideologies? again, dont worry, the writers didnt either! Vi VS Jinx, Mel VS Ambessa, Jayce VS Viktor, Vander VS Silco (dont get me started on how they retconned their backstory lmao). its just a whole bunch of nothingness now. just. complete emptiness. this season has nothing to say. nothing. remember the banger lines in s1 ("in the pursuit of great, we failed to do good", "weapons cant be unmade, and they are always used", and i can go on)... what hardcore, borderline radical lines did we have this season? > the black rose plot. I get they wanted to give Mel a plot, and probably added this as a soft introduction to their next League series, but it was just completely random and a mess if you dont know any of the lore. what is the black rose, really? what is the Actual reason the black rose and Ambessa are fighting? and, with Mel: in episode 8 she was struggling with holding back Viktor's puppet and didnt understand her powers yet, and in e9 she suddenly knows how to create shields and energy blasts? why does she, an empath who can control and change the inner power of others, do these things? s1 arcane was easy to follow without any league lore, and everything from league introduced got explained well and thoroughly. this season, however, clearly thinks all viewers have some base league knowledge. i dont! my fathers, who i watch this with, both dont! one of them who has a literature degree and is an english teacher, so its not due to any bad media literacy! > sorry; the Viktor and the hexcore jesus plot. What were the footsteps in episode 2, that led him to the undercity? was the hexcore controlling him, guiding him to a place it knew the arcane was strong? but, if the hexcore was possesing him, why did Jayce in e9 act like it was all Viktor's own deliberate doing? why did Viktor just... know what to dow with his powers? why would Viktor, who was TERRIFIED of the hexcore, suddenly force others to merge with it? > and, what the FUCK do you mean the mage is Viktor?? Huh?? how does that even WORK?Viktor turns bad in universe A, is like 'i must stop this from happening in other universes' and can just... travel the multiverse i guess. But then, why did he still give Jayce the stone, and not just let Jayce and Ximena die on the plain, resulting in no hextech in Piltover, and so no hexcore that entices Viktor, and so no Arcane Jesus Viktor? Why does he still give Jayce the stone? and who gave Jayce the stone in the original universe wherein Viktor went all Evil? (my theory is; the mage ISNT viktor, but viktor means that, from all universes wherein Jayce gets the stone - one wherein Vi dies > no hextech, one wherein he succeeds with a different ruin > viktor becomes Evil - OUR jayce is the only one that can save OUR viktor. im coping shut up) > and finally abt Viktor; so its never gonna be confirmed if Sky was an hallucination made up by him to combat loneliness (which, why would she then guide him to corrupt others with arcane?), if she was an apperation from the hexcore itself (in which case, why does she leave when Viktor fully turns?, or if she was simply also taken into the hexcore when she died? season 1 would have explained it, and season 2 is like.... ahhh dont worry abt it she was there and now shes gone! > wait no im not done. it is vile, VILE, to act like a terminally ill character who tried to save his own life was bad for trying to do so. that his stage 4 lung cancer was merely a small 'imperfection'. thats absolutely vile. > Vi's character arc. I mean, the character arc which simply WASNT THERE. What did she do this season that was driven by her own desires? she just reacts to outside forces, seems to have no particular goals in mind, and loses everything. Her fall into alcoholism was hyped up, only for it to be 1 amv within the show and no further depth to it. it was said she was gonna learn how to not be a protector, but she didnt! she protected Isha in act 1, Jinx and vander in act 2, and whole pitover in act 3. like, ok, good character arc. i can actually go on longer than this, but im too frustrated. IMPORTANT: i do not hate the show. i love arcane, and season 1 will always be one of, if not the best (animated or general) series ever produced in the west. season 2 has its merits; its entertaining, it has drama, etc., but the decline between season 1 and season 2 is difficult not to notice. season 2 really makes you realise: oh, yeah, this is based on League of Legends.

[@mir_liflore]

Your comments under this video are therapy to me after this absolute fever dream of a season, thank you so much i'm in love with you

[@laurennightingale4752]

@@isaw9969 yes the Hexcore in act 3 just... Completely vanished as a plot point, despite season 1 building it up as this evolving intelligence, corrupting influence. What was in Sky's notebook? Her project that they kept drawing attention to when Vik woke up? All Irrelevant I guess!! I do think saving Jayce makes sense from future Vik's pov. If Jayce was the only person in all timelines who COULD convince Vik that the loneliness wasn't worth it. Jayce HAD to be saved, assuming Vik always finds his way to power. But none of that means JAYCE'S actions in ep 5 and 6 make sense... Why wouldn't he just hug Vik to show him that future instead of blowing a fucking hole in his chest like tf. It was established Vik could read people by touching them.. he could have seen his future self so much sooner.

[@laiag4854]

I couldn't have put it better and there's even more stuff that in my opinion suffered a bit, like the whole of act one building up to dictator Caitlyn only for her to be inmediatly depicted the same way she was in season 1 (where are the war crimes? The realization that what she's doing is bonkers?? I don't want it implied I want to see Cait actually have a redemption arc!) or Heimerdinger being there and then... Not (I think it's supposed to be a bit more emotionally capturing but I personally went "Well that happened")

[@Firebringer121]

I think I just kinda sighed, cause like it wasn't bad, but it did give up on the whole systemic issues it felt like it was built around.

[@sockatoo_]

arcane should've been three seasons, it should've had more time to settle. it's extremely upsetting that they were forced to fit everything into nine episodes. but it's still one of my favorite shows ever, nothing can change that.

[@BGTitanAvatar]

Honestly most of my complaints boil down to “they didn’t have enough time.” Like I appreciate that they put us in the middle of the fight, but you know in any other show there would have been some hold up before the first strike. I appreciate that this show does give its audience credit and assumes they’ll pick up on things, but you know if they’d had even one more episode they would have shown us a couple of those things we’re just meant to infer. One of those things being the Zaun/Piltover relation. While, yeah, Zaun now has a voice on the council (let’s go Sevika!) you can tell that she’s still not exactly welcome. The other/new council members are not happy she’s here and Sevika herself looks uncomfortable. So it’s not all fixed but it’s a step forward… there’s just a never ending line of steps to go. Honestly though, overall I had a great time with season two, it just had to juggle so much in a short amount of time when compared to season 1 where, yes they still moved a little briskly, they genuinely had the better pacing. Also just a side note, Cait taking a page out of VI’s book and striking first while injured, only to have a moment of “oh shit” when she realizes she’s punching way above her weight made me cackle. I loved her and Mel teaming up against Ambessa though because that fight was sick. The camera work when Ambessa kicks Caitlyn and it follows her landing? I love that shit. This show has used that trick a few times and every time I love it.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Nope, Silco being in the alternate timeline makes perfect sense. The reason he was able to make his deal in our timeline was because of Markus' inexperience/naivety and no culprits for the heist both of which are removed in that one. Piltover unknowingly offed Vi so they had to give reparations etc. it adds up

[@pascalalieller]

I dont think its a huge plothole, being a different universe, a lot of things could be different, but. excuse me? Are you suggesting that Piltover would give reperations for Vi dying in a heist gone wrong? What?

[@leovk5779]

@@pascalalieller Well, yeah. They are burglars, but they are also children. Like in season 1, there would be investigations as to what caused the explosion, and, same as season 1, they would be baffled by "you were trying to create MAGIC?? ARE YOU INSANE? you know it's forbidden in Piltover!!" And since a CHILD died because of this illegal experiences, even though yes they are technically thieves, there would be reparations to the Undercity. "they shouldn't have tried to steal, but there shouldn't have been so dangerous materials, and if literal children are trying to steal to get by, maybe you need some help." And later down the line Heimerdinger arrives and doubles down on helping the Undercity.

[@michaelcarlson1208]

Ekko's true nickname is "The Boy Who Shattered Time" I WILL die on this hill

[@remus4283]

Vi and Cait having sex right after powder more or less told Vi that she was gonna go off herself was weird af

[@modkip25]

Jinx did not say she was going to kll herself, she said she will break the cycle. 🤷

[@CaffeinatedRoman]

*Old Victor:* "Jace, you're the only one who could CONVINCE me that I'm wrong." *Jace:* "Got it buddy!" *Jace:* Immediately blasts a crater in Victor's chest first thing he gets back.

[@RealRainbowChaser96]

Act 1 of Season 2 was really good and set up a lot of potential. And while Act 2 might be my favorite Act of Season 2 (Because of Jinx, Vi, Vander and Isha being a family) I think that's when things started to go downhill a bit. I still think this season was amazing but it can never live up to Season 1, Season 1 is a masterpiece.

[@chiefpurrfect8389]

You know how the show was about Piltover's systemic oppression/Zaun's liberation? Anyway, here's a multiverse and some time travel.

[@bluespectrum1348]

I feel so conflicted about the ending and the whole season overall. It was so, so much. For me, season one was a solid 9.8 outta 10. Season 2 is looking like an 8, for me. There were sooooo many plots this season. First season was all about Zaun vs Piltover, Vi vs Jinx, shimmer and hextech. Season 2 we got Zaun vs Piltover, Jinx becoming a symbol, Zaun uniting, Cait and her team going after Jinx, Cait joining Ambessa, Vi going emo, the whole Warrick thing, Jinx and Vi finding Warrick after Jinx liberating her people from Jail, the black rose thing, Viktor turning into Jesus, Viktor becoming the herald, Ekko, Heim and Jayce whole thing in the Arcane, multiverses, Viktor going evil, etc, etc, etc. It was SO MUCH for only 9 episodes. You cant possibly introduce so many convoluted plots in such a short span and resolve them in a satisfactory manner. It felt rushed, confusing and overstimulating. Also the CaitVi scene after Jinx literally told Vi she was gonna end it all...just...huh. It felt like they HAD to insert that scene...somewhere. I still love the show to bits- just wish they had more time, or less plots.

[@CorruptShark]

I completely agree with this, I told my friend basically the exact same thing, I love this show as a whole but after finishing the last episode I just kinda sat there like "...huh" I don't think I've ever been more conflicted over an ending of a show, still a fantastic show overall but a lot of the choices especially in the latter end of the show just felt very odd

[@seraphic9092]

Hm I don’t think Jinx necessarily told Vi she was directly going to self delete herself. She said she was going to break the cycle. Which could be implied of doing *that* but that probably didn’t come to Vi’s mind. IMO, this scene and its entirety shows that Vi doesn’t know how to properly be an emotional support nor understands signs of someone who needs support. And it shows with how she reacted to her sister locking her in that cell, when she responds with punching the wall

[@bluespectrum1348]

@@seraphic9092 tbf Jinx lockin Vi up and saying I'm going to break the cycle...does imply she wants to end herself. Lmao.

[@Juicegote]

We really got animated sesbian lex before gta6

[@falconeshield]

From Korrasami to Violyn, this pipeline is winning

[@julianbello8376]

Buddy sesbian lex has been animated a thousand times before

[@ruzgar1372]

animated lesbian sex was invented in 2016 with the release of Overwatch

[@chaos_is_my_guilty_pleasure]

​@@falconeshieldHOLY CRAP VIOLYN IS MY NEW FAV SHIP NAME, LIKE ITS A RUNNER UP AFTER LUMITY FOR BEST WLW NAME MESHUP

[@fatherpleasereturn2088]

@@julianbello8376what about really big budget animated lesbian sex before gta 6 then lmao

[@theabstractguy411]

Honestly, I was pretty disappointed with episode 9 and a ton of little things that caused the season to really fuck up the final act. It just didn’t feel right. Warwick ended feeling more like a plot device rather than a character, Vi literally lost everything, Caitlyn just felt off, and so many side characters were built up to be important just to die in the final fight. Watching Zaunite fight in Enforcer armor felt like a really, really bizarre choice and all the loose plot points hinting at future shows that just ended making Arcane ending feeling incomplete. Worst of all was Sevika, who got hinted at having more importance just to barely appear in the final fight. Edit: I immediately got an ad right as Maddie died lol

[@mangamandrew]

I would argue Warwick did not have an ending but Vander is dead completely. Vi lost almost everything. She still has her cupcake. And if anything, Vi losing almost everything is kinda the inver of the good universe where she had everything except she was dead. Caitlyn was … yeah, can’t argue with that. Maybe the story could have done better with one extra season or just an additional act between act 1 and 2 to smooth out the transition. And it makes sense for the Zaunites to fight along with and in the enforcers because if they lose… everyone dies. And yeah, wish Sevika had more to do but hey, she is not a representative of the underground and now has political sway.

[@theabstractguy411]

Even if Warwick is alive, I see no reason for him to ever come back. His final design looked awful, any bit of personality he had was literally killed off. While I never played LOL, I would have rather had him end up where his League version. Maybe they could’ve had the remnants of Vander break through, similar to how he kicked Viktor out of his mind in act 2 (maybe even disabling him for a few moments). Maybe his healing factor could cause them metal body to break and rip off, revealing a design more akin to the werewolf design from league.

[@Achieme]

I agree to an extent with the Warwick cause he was practically singes resume/tool to join ambassa. I enjoyed the scenes where him jinx and vi got back together until the story hooked line and sinker my emotions. I figured singe would use war wick to attack piltover again but not in the way arcane did it. I thought he was gonna be under mind control and have him go on a killing spree until vi or jinx brings him back, but nah, he's gone like he's mentally dead. He was pretty much was a mcguffin. I wanted him to still be alive or realize he cant be around anyone including his family because how much of a threat he is so vi and jinx will continue to go after him to try and save him or convince him to stay As for zaunite wearing piltover armor. It's pretty reasonable, idk if they have their own armor. I thought Jinx would go batshit after losing Isha but I can tolerate with what we got

[@Achieme]

Me too I got the ad in the middle of the ad

[@Psub950]

Props to the Noxian soldiers, they where pretty effective considering how advanced Piltover is.

[@Psub950]

I mean think about it, Piltover alone has guns, magical artillery, airships, and toxic gas, Zaun brings more people, body augments, and the hoverboards of the firelights to the table, on top of all that their position was pretty defendable.

[@moremoneyplease6838]

Noxius is literally the strongest region in runeterra, considering Targon has literal gods amongst them, and shurima has soldiers who ascended to godhood, Noxius was still the strongest region, also Mordekaiser (human form) the old emperor of Noxius literally submitted 3 demons into being his b***ches, and Swain (the current Noxian General) has submitted a demon into becoming his new arm.

[@anagramme4889]

Piltover enforcers are very effective at fighting unarmed civilians and children but not so much when it comes to actual military.

[@mattimeikalainen6963]

@@moremoneyplease6838 mordekaiser is literally the emperor from 40k. Current noxus is still a world conquering superpower but they aren't the invincible powerhouse that mordekaiser led.

[@JeremyIsFalling]

Noxian soldiers are Spetsnaz, enforcers are simply cops.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

I think the biggest problem I had with season 2, was something called the Tarzan syndrome. With that, the songs very specifically tell you what the character is feeling, and how you should feel. They did this because of the actual biggest issue; the pacing. In season 1, the only songs that outright TELL you what's up are as follows: Misfit Toys which details what the Firelights are all about, What Could Have Been, and Goodbye. They work because they're used sparingly. In season 2, I'm pretty sure in EVERY episode we have a song number telling us what's up. And that got REALLY annoying. Season 2 isn't BAD. But it certainly doesn't have that same caliber of writing that season 1 had. Where once I would've PROUDLY said that Arcane was the best show on TV even overtaking Avatar the Last Airbender...after season 2's finale...yeah no ATLA still holds the crown for the best show on TV. It gets literally ever important aspect of telling a story right. Including the pacing. Tropes that are normally seen as cliches are used to the show's advantage; such as the flashbacks. In the Storm, it sets up Aang and Zuko's parallel journeys. Here? What was the narrative point to Vander's flashbacks only to then lose his humanity anyways? While the ending was fine....I was left asking "what was the point" for a lot of moments leading up to it and even afterwards. To me, if a finished story is making you "What was the point?" vs being satisfied with what you witnessed, then it didn't do its job in getting you emotionally invested. It didn't do its job in getting you to care about the story, about the characters. I cared about the characters in season 1. In season 2, by the end, because of all the songs telling me how I SHOULD feel...I just felt annoyed. I think this desperately needed a third season, to really let things ruminate and sink in, to let the characters just SIT and BREATHE. One of the best moments in season 1 was Silco sitting at Vander's statue. Less than a hundred words were spoken, and yet that scene said everything it needed to say. And we got NOTHING like that in season 2. And that sucks.

[@beggettigm2331]

damn

[@CoreyAdolfi]

They needed another season. Warwick/Vander’s return could’ve been two acts alone.

[@a_confused_spoon]

Wonderfully said

[@casualfanatic4217]

My sister had the same problem as you as well. The songs were overdone and she felt being spoon fed. And she was asking what the point of anything was or what were the motivations behind character’s actions. She liked the season but described it as unfocused

[@TheRibottoStudios]

​@CoreyAdolfi they introduced too many plot threads and then just dumped them. Pit fighter Vi, Ekko and his tree, Caitlyn becoming a dictator, Jinx becoming a symbol of Zaun... it all needed another season to build it up to the war between Piltover and Noxus

[@sadikicaine4881]

0:15 danny motta's sarcastic twin brother

[@elijahwilson5530]

But ACTUALLY tho!

[@l.aliban5122]

😂😂😂 why is this so true?!

[@mx.confused]

I’ll make a few comments on the characters: Jayce - i think he was incredibly consistent. throughout both seasons his no.1 priority emotionally has been viktor and he tends to kinda go with his gut/the last thing someone told him. him sacrificing himself with viktor and being so single minded in completing future/au viktor’s wish makes a lot of sense because of this. Jinx - i think jinx’s mindset this season kinda boils down to “i inevitably hurt people.” that’s reinforced throughout this entire season and leads to her being suicid*l. she ultimately decides to not k*ll herself and help against noxes because of ekkos speech making her realize that maybe she can help people in some way. i’m sure she sees it as a redemption of sorts. but helping in battle is what’s she’s good at, so it’s not that hard for her to accept her usefulness there. she probably still holds it in her heart that her presence will passively hurt people, especially vi; which is what i think ultimately is the reason she decides to fake her death. her own self-consciousness was telling her to “walk away,” afterall. Caitlyn - at heart she cares about people and that is clouded over by her grief and made worse by her ignorance (and caitlyn has always been a somewhat ignorant character). this leads to most of her actions in act 1. then, months later in act 2 when the hole of grief has gotten smaller, she starts to see more clearly, regrets her actions, and doubts ambassa. this leads to her teaming up with vi. act 3 is mainly an emotional conclusion to her arch. she forgives(?) jinx and prioritizes vi over her anger. vi - i think to understand vi this season, you need to understand some things about her character. 1. she proprieties her loved ones above anything else 2. she hates change and has a hard time accepting it. in this season as well she is without much direction. i think this is what has her reluctantly join the enforcers. the only really good thing in her life right then is caitlyn and she’s lost, so she clings to her and loses a bit of herself in the process. then, when caitlyn leaves her, she loses all direction and becomes a pit fighter. then jinx walks back in with news of vander and she has a purpose again. she sees how her sister has changed and because she has few loved ones and loves them powerfully, she easily forgives her. i think that when caitlyn comes back, she ends up working with her because 1. she has just been proven wrong about her sister never being the same as before so she’s probably more hopeful that the same may be the case about caitlyn and 2. she could very much use her help right now and save another person she loves. and as confirmed in act 3, she didn’t completely hand over her trust to cait again. then i’m act 3 she tries again with jinx but then jinx pushes her away. she physically can not go after her and is also emotionally in pain because she’s once again alone. her sister left, her father is dead again, and she still doesn’t fully trust her girlfriend. when cait comes and shows that she has prioritized vi over her anger at jinx, of course vi takes comfort in that. it’s the only thing she has going for her at the moment. her not being very mournful of jinx at the end is somewhat weird, but we did see that when jinx “died” , and she’s humming the song that powder was singing when their parents died. so she’s probably thinking about jinx while doing this and is a bit of bittersweet mourning about it. the fact that the fighting is over and some things are healing is a positive for her and she’s faced so much loss in her life that she might not be in the mindset for a sort of deep mourning. plus, caitlyn must have got the idea that jinx was alive from the monkey head and THEN investigated it farther, so she might have already informed vi of the possibility. so it could also be a hopeful humming. viktor - honestly, i probably am most confused by viktors actions out of everybody’s in this season. part of this might be explained by the way that he could have lost some of his emotionality in the hexcore. throughout season 1, viktor 1. wanted to help people 2. wanted to achieve this before he died/prevent his death in order to achieve this 3. was insecure about/didn’t really like his disability. he rejected the idea of singed experimentation and prioritization of survival over actually living, but he kind of relents in the end to save himself/cure himself only to go back when sky dies. basically he flips flops over his willingness to accept the idea of loss of humanity for the sake of scientific improvement/survival. at the end he accepts his death and asks jayce to destroy the hexcore. in season 2, jayce breaks this promise to save him and then he sees jayces weapons plans. basically, these combined lead him to feel betrayed by jayce and he leaves. i think that the start of viktor’s cult was probably partly influenced by the wild arcane, but he was somewhat predisposed to this. he wants to help people/stop suffering (especially in the undercity) and the way he can do this is immediately is with the magic now at his disposal. he doesn’t mind curing these people because he has wanted to cure himself. the biggest mystery for me is why he was okay with all of this if he wanted people to have their humanity. at the start i would chalk it up to him not really knowing that that would be the result. but later own after the commune is established, he is still has the opinion as evident by his conversation with singed about warwick, and yet he continues with it. i think it’s possible he’s probably fooling himself here. he wants to believe he’s doing good and having control, but he’s really not. but the nature of the arcane at that point let’s him fool himself into believing that the case and he blinds himself to the negative affects. he invites jayce back because for all his anger he loves him and his whole motto at that point as hextech jesus is “everyone is welcome in peace”. another point brought up in his final convo with jayce: he can see into these peoples minds. he can see that they want better lives and all the things stopping them. jayce’s second betrayal sends him off the deep in and he comes to his realization about humanity. why this event does that for him? my best guess is that 1. he realizes that his death means the failure of his efforts and so the only way to remedy that is going with singed’s plan 2. he didn’t expect jayce to betray him and so that highlights humanity’s evil to him 3. he sees his followers suffering and the causes of it 4. he likes perfection. basically, some combination of that. then he goes off the deep end into that mindset and jayce takes him out of it at the end. definitely the character i understand the least, though. but honestly he was confusing to me in season 1 as well. now, on piltover and zaun: i think addressing such a deep-rooted class issue is a hard think to do in a series that takes place over like… half a year at most. the zaunites, with the exception of a rather small group, appropriately did not respond well to jayce’s plea for help. only after jinx, their symbol of resolution, joined in did they follow. (and jinx probably mainly did so for herself/vi and vi did so because of caitlyn. they also have a better understanding of why the arcane is kind bad for everybody and so they do have a reason to fight that isn't just helping piltover fix a problem they started). jayce and viktor destroying the arcane (which we learn is harming/could harm the undercity) and jayce symbolically going through what viktor went through (the fact that his leg got hurt by his weapon and he had to refashion that weapon into a leg brace to get himself out of a hole is definitely also symbolic of how he realized weaponizing hextech was always bad and it's only though helpful technology that progress is made) also sort of lays to rest much of the conflict around how the council abused technology for their own gain and for the sake of oppression. it doesn't solve those issues but i really don't know how they could in such a short time frame. hextech carried much of the symbolism in the show around the oppression of zaun and i do think they handled that bit correctly. the main characters that pushed a lot of the brutality against zaun either end up dead (ambessa) or realize their mistakes (caitlyn, jayce). So I think on a small level they do keep the right messaging with these characters. seivika getting a spot on the council isn't enough to solve all of their issues, but the end of the show does sort of start a new beginning, so im not sure we are meant to interpret it as solving all issues. And that's my take on most of the controversial bits of season 2. I feel like people, for the most part, are okay with the other characters and plotlines. Overall, I don't think the season was perfect, but honestly season 1 had its flaws as well. I also don't think this season is as bad as some people are making it out to be. I think that there is just more disappointment because there was more expectations. Is it better than season 1? No, I personally don't think so. While Arcane has always told things in the small details, they have even more to juggle this season and so even more interpretation is needed. That being said, I really don't think they abandoned their characters, even if this season did come off more plot focused.

[@impa2787]

I agree 100%. They had to do so much and they did the best they could in the small window of time. I still think season 1 is better, but season 2 is by no means a failure or disappointment. Season 1 and 2 are very different, and I’ll return to both for different reasons: season 1 is so small scale and very character driven, allowing for a personalized story, season 2 has a lot more worldbuilding and fantastical aspects to it which is better for a saga.

[@T3aseW1thease]

Here are some things that I hated/disliked about Act 3. 1. Maddie's reveal as a traitor was predictable, It felt very forced because Instead of making her an actual character. they just just did it as an excuse to get Vi and Caitlyn back together. 2. Loris was one of the most pointless characters in the show, he barely gets any development, we learn nothing about him and he just dies in the second and not even Vi is like sad about it. 3. I hate how when Ekko came back to the main timeline and he meets up with Jinx we dont even get a scene where he's trying to convince Jinx to help. and the next time we see them they're just all cool with eachother. 4. the pacing is genuily awful.

[@christina76454]

the Act 3 it self can make a hole season. They really run out of time to just end the season and story line 😢

[@guesta9822]

Nobody talked about Isha’s death either.

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@guesta9822TBF, Jinx is completely destroyed as a result. Plus, the bunny ears on the balloon can represent her.

[@relic5752]

​@@guesta9822Vi is more focused on the fact that Jinx is actively suicidal, Warwick got morphed, Caitlin barely knew the kid existed, and Ekko is entirely unaware of her existence. There is no character available to bring her up aside from Jinx, who is actively suicidal from seeing her death.

[@oomay1925]

​@@guesta9822ya i know there was too much shit going on to address it but it makes her death kind of dumb if all it was to make Jinx more depressed without ever reconciling loss. Isha sacrificed herself for Jinx and because she looked up to Jinx as a pillar of Zaun, so realizing that would have been a really sweet moment for Jinx to decide to join the war but we just don't ever get to see that.

[@CasualShinji]

The fact that Vi even went for Metal Warwick at the end in an attempt to save him was incredibly contrived. Yes, I know it was once Vander, but we did that already, we already had that tragic outcome at the end of Episode 6. No need to revisit it when Metal Warwick was giving zero hints that Vander was still alive in there. And all of this to blatantly set up a sacrifice that not only felt contrived itself, but also made for a very unsatisfying end to Jinx's arc. Now that I think about it, Vi kinda fucks up two times at the expense of Jinx. One is the Metal Warwick scene, the other is unfortunately the sex scene with Cait. I'm sorry, but after Jinx leaves Vi locked up clearly giving suicide vibes as she retreats into the dark, only for Vi to just jump Caitlin's bones the moment she's released instead of immediately trying to find her sister, makes me wonder where the hell Vi's priorities are.

[@Wullow.]

Im just so disappointed by the way they did caitvi's writing. Literally, everyone on Twitter is saying that they didn't deserve a happy ending, and the whole sex scene was so out of place, and i hate to say it, but i kinda agree. I think they focused too much on making it canon, much more than they focused on making caitvi the way we loved them from season 1. They were flirty and caring and i loved that about them, but it seems in act 3 they lost everything that made them a couple if that makes sense. Like Vi legit found out her sister was about to kill herself and then she goes and devours caitlyn, IN JINXS CELL? Idk it just felt so out of place to me. Maybe i need more time to think, but idk im kinda numb rn. I just wished they flushed out everyones arc- which they couldve done if there was another season- like did they think they needed to rush this season just so they could move onto different storylines? Like the entire sevika, isha and jinx arc just didnt exist in act 3 even though it has such an impact on jinxs character. Edit: another thing that just spawned into my mind that was not the best executed was the ambiguous ending to jinxs character. Like I know she isn't dead but if you weren't as invested in this show as some people are and you were just a casual watcher, you would not even know she is still alive which is so annoying because I hate open endings. Anyway I think that's legit all my criticisms of this season.

[@joeandrew8752]

Keep in mind that stale food was probably still in that cell lol, jinx’s piss and blood from her fingers lmao. This made me feel the same way about Arya’s sex scene in GOT s8, like good for them but it just felt forced or out of place.

[@zalamazu]

I also hate to say it, but as good as a queer rep in thos show is... it feels a little catered toward a straight male audience. You're telling me Cait and Vi will have in explicit scene in Jinx's jail cell while Viktor and Jayce just... hug and put their heads together? Seriously? It seemed like they wanted to make every romance or sex scene with a woman in it explicit, but the men? Nah, they're just gonna hug and only imply they could be together. It's weird.

[@JyotikaJagruti]

They didn't cuz mel is officially with jayce and you need to understand that Not every same gender relationship is gay They were like brothers (their words not mine) So obv, they didn't show them hugging or kissing cuz they had no such relationship to begin with​@@zalamazu

[@falconeshield]

Dude you still pay attention to Xitter? It's a cesspool. Arcane wouldn't even exist if it had its way.

[@TajinQ]

​@@falconeshield please don't call it that. It's even worse than "X" somehow

[@isaw9969]

jayce telling Viktor "youve always wanted to cure what you thought were imperfections: your leg, your disease" made me livid. he was DYING, jayce. he had the arcane version of stage 10 lung cancer. thats not an imperfection, thats a death sentence. comparing a deadly disease to a physical disability is just... insane to me. and remember; Jayce in s1 did everything he could to save Viktor. he banished heimerdinger, his MENTOR from the council just so they could keep trying to save Viktor. who, again, was actively dying ("i can feel my body... eroding" is more than just an imperfection, yall. fuck im so mad lmao) season 1 Viktor was never motivated by such shallow desires as getting rid of imperfections, and the writers trying to retcon that made me so annoyed. season 1 viktor wanted to help, he wanted to save the people in need. it was only after he fused with the hexcore that this got changed into 'save them /by perfecting them/". nothing, and i mean nothing in season 1 implies viktor hates his imperfections. he wanted to stay alive, because he wanted to have the chance to help people ("i suppose your legacy is well secured" talk with Heimer, where Viktor laments that he didnt get to do anything Good in hus life,) the trope of 'this disabled character is evil, cause they want to get rid of their disability. theyre good as they are!!' is a trope so focused on abled people it drives me up the wall. yes, a disabled person does not need to be able bodied to be worthy of life, and to be perfect; thats true! but villainising the desire disabled people have to be treated as equal, to pretend like its THEIR ableism, instead of that of the surrounding world which makes them be critical of their disability, is vile. i get the message was intended to be 'your perfect even if you think your not. your disability doesnt make you any less perfect', but in the same breath acting as if Viktor was only ever motivated by his desire to overcome imperfections, instead of motivated by his desire to help, and desire to keep on living SO HE COULD HELP, is just horrible. i almost wanna call it mean. no it is mean they massacred my boys whole character.

[@MsSarahJosephine]

Devil's real shitty advocate here but Jayce's "your imperfections are beautiful" speechh didn't work in universe - we see that in the form of the future he went to where the world was destroyed - a world where Ekko wasn't present or had found the time altering rune. In that world, Jayce said his spiele and Victor still assimilated the world - What defeated Viktor was being bitch slapped by alternate time by Ekko giving Jayce enough time for him to hug Viktor and show him what he'd seen and an alternate Viktor which had found perfection and solution to all pain and suffering and it wasn't what was hyped to be - something which mecha Viktor was now trying to form (and which I see as the corrupted hexcore taking him over)

[@vamplinvamp]

T H I S As a chronically ill person who walks with a cane, I felt very tied to Viktor on a spiritual level. He never wanted to “cure” his disability, he wanted to prolong his life. None of his motivations, especially in the second season, have anything to do with his disability or illness so Jayce’s little speech feels like bullshit. He should know better than anyone that Viktor didn’t think his leg was an imperfection.

[@isaw9969]

@@vamplinvamp shakes ur hand we're in the same boat brother (genderneutral) like. i have a lung disease and something other which drains my energy. one way or the other; when i die, these things will be de direct or indirect cause. me trying to find ways to prolong my life, to make the most of the limited time i know i have, is not me 'trying to be perfect'. its just such a slap in the face to us and all others with dissabilities (or other chronic sickness) to hear this extremely able-bodied/healthy opinion abt how we should just... lay down and accept it? what i have is not a physical dissability, so i cannot talk abt that part of the speech. but the disease thing just made me livid. what a way to find out that, aparently, Viktor's disease was Not A Flaw - even tho Viktor never acted like it was. He didnt see it as an imperfection, he saw it as something which made his life significantly harder than the life of others, which is what it was!! im just. im so upset about it its actually insane. viktor was such a well written disabled character, and now its like "oh actually he HATED his disabilities and he thought he was IMPERFECT bc of them" like oh okay. guess we're doing internalised ableism with a character that doesnt need that trope!

[@TajinQ]

While I agree that Viktor's deal was always about altruism, I still think there was a bit of him that felt shackled by his own body. To me, that's what the boat scene was about. I think they're trying to imply that Viktor's obsession with saving everyone eventually made him associate his disability with what he wanted to fix. The more he became obessed, the more he starting thinking in black and white (binary, cuz y'know, viktor.. robots..). You see that as he talks about order vs chaos, him embodying the idea of pure order. Don't get me wrong, I think Jayce's quote is still *really* bad, but I don't think it's completely disconnected to Viktor's pov.

[@evilreligion]

I think merging with the arcane corrupted him. The noble and good intent of victor was corrupted and twisted to something bad. This is a theme throughout Arcane. Jayce only wanted to help but hex tech corrupted that. Powder only wanted to help but the power of hex tech corrupted that. Vander only wanted to help but the power he gained through revolution corrupted that. Silco only wanted to help but we all know what happened there. Power corrupts and that which inspired our greatest good also drives our greatest evils. So yes Victor changed because power corrupts and it does so by twisting the initial good motives we have. No one thinks they are evil even Hitler thought he was the good guy. I don’t think it was much to do ableism to be honest. Well that’s not the message I got. Speaking as a carer of a disabled son, so it’s not something I’m unfamiliar with but just didn’t get that message from this at all.

[@SWIVELGOD]

whats really funny about heimer's death for me is that yordles respawn upon death so like to him his sacrifice was just a inconvient respawn timer

[@1wayroad935]

Jinx simply did what Silco advised her to do in the first season. WALK. AWAY.

[@RandomNumber6598]

Cait and Vi’s relationship was such an afterthought. They needed more heartfelt dialogue before or after the prison scene

[@StarslightAndDreams]

we were waiting for a great apology and never really got it. lots of things in this season happened off screen and are left up to our imagination

[@christopherglade5693]

I have been waiting for your video ever since I finished watching act 3 yesterday. Overall I am very happy with arcane however I wish they would have done more with it. More seasons to really expand upon all of the plot points that glossed over. Such as but not limited to - Cait being a dictator and The worst on screen - more Cait and Maddie to anger shippers - more of Viktors change in mindset -Vi’s mental turmoil - Jinx coming to search for Vi - EVERYTHING WITH VANDER - more Viktor and Sky - more with the Rose and maybe Mel learning her powers. - more in the alternate universes, particularly Powder and Ekko Just so many things that I am happy with and felt was awesome! But could have been so much MORE given the time to blossom.

[@KathyXie]

Jinx arc was so unsatisfying, she never mentions Isha again, no symbolic burial, never interact with sevika on scree again, she only talk with Ekko for like a minute and a half, we get hints they are now at the very least friends again based on their outfit, but that's not enough, we needed more scenes, also Silco telling her to walk away didn't need to be literally, now she is completely alone, depressed, suffering hallucinations, without any support network, I don't think that's what she needs, feels super cruel. If the writers really needed her to leave to have her somewhere else in the next show, there could have done it in a more mature way, having her explaining why she needs to leave and saying goodbye to Vì and Ekko, it could have been more emotional than faking her death.

[@isabelgruner3117]

3:27 silco is there because he read the apology letter Vander wrote in their gay hide out!! That’s why he remarks that forgiveness is the best thing you can do!!

[@monochromeink.]

"gay hide out" lol

[@jacobpena6176]

Mylo and Claggor are adopted brothers. Claggor was just happy to see Mylo having a nice time, nothing romantic about it

[@aintnoslice3422]

that wont stop the shippers

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I felt bad when the blondie betrayed Cait and said, "I've always enjoyed your warmth."

[@CristianPaauw]

Definitely not a blondie but yes

[@PosiWritesStories]

She’s a ginger

[@soparvaneh6706]

u mean ginger

[@falconeshield]

Heyooo

[@im4ft622]

Color blind

[@GGNH1234]

This season really needed an Act 4

[@kinggrimm2700]

The ending definitely felt a bit rushed for me

[@DuskyPredator]

The bad guy was always systematic issues, so it feels weird that it doesn't properly address it. Cait is one momemt being a dictator, and then the next she was apparently able to recruit Zaunites to die fighting a conflict that Piltover created. With how Jinx was made to be a symbol, it looks obvious that she would have needed to be the one who convinced them to join. Probably also Ekko in his journey seeing yhe corruption so he would know Zaun needs to fight. Also, I would like Viktor to be a bit more extra, like what I saw of the character. The one thing we saw is that Viktor was entirely still inside there, and could have been entirely reasoned with if Jace explained things and showed a bit of empathy. I could like the idea of a Viktor who became aware of the flaws in the dead end future, and might have what he sees as a happy medium of a glorious evolution.

[@the_cringe_nerd]

In honesty, I feel this show just needed 1 more 9 episode season to fully flesh its ideas out properly but still build to that same target ending. My personal feel is that this season should have ended where Act 2 ended and then a season 3 focusing more on bringing things together. Or alternatively increase the duration of each episode from 40 min to 50 or 60 and have the finale be 60 or 70 minutes.

[@taheahshahdaiah6422]

No lie the Vi and cait sex scene rubbed me the wrong way. Especially after Vi heard Jinx hinting at offing herself. Just wasn't the right moment for that.

[@andwhatifI...]

Right, like I thought she's gonna run out of that cell as soon as its open. That was so not the place for this. I do ship Vi/Cait but come on. I saw some people say that Vi didn't go after her because she didn't know where she went, but isn't Vi's thing to never give up on family? Why didn't she care to even try and find her suicidal sister? Like, this character trait (never giving up )is the only explanation I'll accept when she stayed with Vander in a dangerous situation, which made Jinx "sacrifice herself". Because, I'm not gonna lie, the sacrifice felt really flat for me (no matter if she died or not) because of how we got there. But anyway, my point is that these two scenes contradict Vi's motivations.

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Nah this is wrong. They had to show that all was forgiven and that sex scene represents that in the most human way possible

[@andwhatifI...]

@@dr.wolfstar1765 Imo the sex scene is not the problem, it's the placement of it.

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@dr.wolfstar1765Jinx is literally on her way to go die, and instead of being a decent human being and tracking her down with Caitlyn, Vi decides it’s time to get laid. It’s not even a good parallel to Mel and Jayce, it’s just poorly-timed.

[@BluffMello]

Yeah I remember being like, really man? in the cell your sister was depressing in???

[@Rosiepie101]

Might be a controversial view but I felt the ending was very rushed and I feel like it didn't properly wrap up everyone's stories, I also believe that Warwick definitely deserved better, especially since it's implied that he's now dead. But for me, Ambessa's death also felt very quick. These are all my opinions, but I definitely believe that the final act should maybe have had a few more episodes, two at most, just to fully wrap up everyone's character arcs. Other than that, the show was amazing, and I'm definitely going to miss it a lot because I know it's going to be a very long time before we get something similar ever again.

[@Julian-ec5bg]

The only character that is definitely death is Ambessa , the rest are just plots for future histories, Warwick is coming back when Cait/Vi fight Urgot the next time we see Piltover/Zaun, as well as Jinx, while Viktor and Jayce we'll have to wait

[@maeellis7523]

Totally agree though. Isha's Sacrfice meant nothing other then taking out a few Noxian soldiers. I thought the bunny ears were first meant to be Vi's bunny still cause before Isha that's what Jinx held close to her.

[@loycos3648]

i feel like arcane as we knew it, the political drama between 2 cities, the study of characters under those systems and their relationships- ended in act 1 s2. the last 2 acts felt like i was watching a completely different show, and that includes the writing for the characters, and the lack of focus on what even the theme of the show is anymore. on top of the confused, all over the place writing, they added a lot of magic bullshit (with mel and the hexcore) time travel and multiverse, by design this makes the realism and groundedness of the show, what i think was the strongest suit of arcane s1 and act 1 of s2, dissolve and feel more like a marvel movie than arcane.

[@mdg245]

I wonder how much Mel’s popularity pushed her character in this direction. It seems like they wanted to make her a champion but she would be very underpowered as she was in season 1. I do wish she got to stay in her element in Piltover more. Once the black rose straight kidnapped her I could feel her being pulled away for sequel material. That said, she is so fucking pretty and the new gold marking just make her hotter

[@adelcipher5617]

Well....at least we got CaitVi sesbian lex and JayVic going on a space honeymoon....the rest was depression galore but still peak Also another thing I absolutely loved and wanted to mention was Victor's re-design because that was some Bloodborne lvls of disturbing

[@isaw9969]

Mel could have had a political plot mirroring her mother, but... nevermind! she's a magical girl now :3

[@arizona7600]

I‘m still here balling my eyes out and I have so many theories. But after all that for me season 2 was good

[@lilythegoatking4197]

The shippers are having a field day after this whole season lol

[@儚いキリン]

We were witnessing history. I remembered the time when bubbline came true.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen5410]

Man no we aren't. I hate this shit. They ruined caitvi and vi completely

[@ahmedyahya5487]

I think you forget how straightforward Jayce's problem solving skills are, he's literally just a hammer who's good at everything he does way too fast to realize consequences of potential flaws in the design. Kill Salo, Kill Viktor, go home... Viktor is still coming for the core? Kill the the core, kill Viktor.... can't kill Viktor? Viktor wants to make everything perfect? Tell him/show him perfection sucks. The end.

[@samkaranja5709]

It's weird that Jayce and Cait never find out that it was Vi and Powder that originally robbed them based on a tip from Ekko, like I'm not sure what it would have accomplished for them to find out but its weird that they never did. Literally the inciting incident. Also its insane that for how much everyone is connected, Jayce never interacts with jinx.

[@wendersonemanuel9377]

I'm worried about what they chose to do with Jinx's attempted suicide because there is a song with an aesthetic background, and cool visuals, and it sounds like they are "glorifying" it. I don't know if this is the right word, but some people who might be going through depression could get ideas from this.

[@Saintphish]

Man Poor Ekko dude sacrificed everything to save the world and he lost his pow pow

[@philly_sports1558]

I’m hoping Jinx is alive and they can get together

[@p.divine7780]

The ending straight up broke me 😭

[@piaha8274]

They simply had far too many topics at once. I wonder why they dedicated the entire 2nd act to Vander and then destroyed everything in the last few minutes of the act. In the 3rd act, all this wasn't relevant anymore. So why even build it up? Maybe they could have taken out the whole Vander theme to better fill the other storylines and take the pace out. I know it was important for the bonding of Vi and Jinx but I'm sure it could have been done differently. Well, I still love the series.

[@StarslightAndDreams]

i agree. loved act 1, act 3 was also quite good. but act 2 should have been rewritten to make all the acts actually flow into each other nicely. these 3 acts now felt like separate seasons altogether

[@Maxisamo1]

Pacing is the worst aspect of this show, they definitely realized they bit off too much than they could chew and had to make more predictable/simplified pay-offs to wrap things up

[@wobbegong4366]

The biggest annoyances for me were the pacing, Isha never being mentioned after her death, and Vi hooking up with Cait rather than IMMEDIATELY chasing after Jinx following that very ominous ‘breaking the cycle speech.’

[@riymeep6708]

No yeah I get that people were anticipating the sex scene but imo it felt too rushed into and out of place. People try to say Vi didn’t realize Jinx would kill herself, but Vo already knows Jinx is suicidal from the ending of act 1, plus how can you listen to that speech from Jinx and not see how heavily she was implying she was gonna kill herself. Vi is someone who values her family above all else (especially since she and Jinx just became family again), so her not immediately going after Jinx when Cait opened the cell felt odd to me.

[@samusamu5342]

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[@metalrob6713]

Ending made me also be like "...what?"😅 Honestly, I kinda got confused at the end of series of what just happened.

[@hellofriend545]

Jinx wanting to kill herself was surprisingly triggering for me. Really unsettled me how her story ended, I didn’t realize it was implied that she “survived” or whatever, but it would’ve been so meaningful to me personally if we had seen her make an effort to reconstruct her relationship with Violet. And this isn’t like a fan service request, this is in line with the themes of the season. There is an inevitability to the multifaceted tendencies of these characters, but then there’s an even more powerful and fateful pull: the way their love for each other is never something they can truly erase. The beginning of the season, the two sisters insist on convincing themselves that they want each other dead, because it’s easier than confronting the heartbreak of how divided they’ve become. But then they have to put in the work to fight for each other, for a future together, again. There could’ve been a deeply fulfilling moment here, that kicked off the beginning of healing. Jinx would never be safe from the law…maybe Caitlin would step down in part because she can’t be a cop in a relationship with Vi. Idk

[@photonfighter6414]

Ekko is the fucking goat

[@11A.M.]

I think Jinx sacrificing herself at the end makes so much sense actually. She has numerous scenes where she's trying to blow herself up (with ekko on the bridge, with warwick in the prison) and she always survived by pure luck. She just has this self-distructive instinct, but at the end, I think she wanted to survive and go away, just as Silco told her, just so she can make sure that Vi will have a happy life. She didnt actually want to die thanks to Silco's, Vi's and Ekko's words, that encouraged her to turn her life around and do good. She also tells Vi that she deserves to be happy with Cait. And she also mentioned that bcs she's a Jinx, she brings bad luck to everyone around her. Isha got close and she died. I think Jinx would want to make sure that she can't fuck up Vi's life again, so that's why she left. Also, she didnt want to be the face of the revolution in the first place. Don't think all her followers would have held her back, and she didn't feel a responsability for them. she just wanted a quiet life with Isha. So yeah, makes sense that she just runs away in a blimp, the same one young Powder sees in the sky.

[@missing_in_s3]

The ending left me...empty. It was such an emotion sucking experience that it left you with nothing at the end. I barely cried because it drained me to the core, but it's not a bad thing I believe. However, I think I started to be really confused after episode 5 of act 2 s2 because it was...so much going on and at the same time not that much. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it was starting to be like A LOT in act 2. But yeah, so many ideas on paper but the delivery felt rushed and uncoherent to some of the characters usual behavior sometimes (like Caitlyn especially or Jinx to some extent towards Warwick/Vander...like dude we got 0 real scenes between them in s1, and she seemed more invested in saving him than Vi lmao) I also believe that making that breathtaking ending was going to be a pain in the ass without half of the main cast since most of them are rip, but overall, to leave us without a soul, it's that the show is still a banger. Just yeah, it doesn’t top season 1 (I could write more but it just going to become an essay at this point so yeah x))

[@truefrog4599]

I just love it when su1cidal character kills themselves but in a cool sacrifice way so its supposed to be okay now💀 (Jinx and Jayce lowkey)

[@First_love_late_spring]

The show hints heavily to her survival so I don’t think that was the intended message

[@BreadBush]

Everybody got the good ending in that AU except for Vi, she struggles in every damn timeline girl CANNOT catch a break 😭

[@MatiR-Pumpkin]

Silco was friend of Vi and Jinx mom as well as Vander. When the news of Vi reached silco's ears he went back to the old mine house and found the letter and probably went to Vander with a big double "Hey listen man" moment. Vander lost a daughter and said he was sorry. Silco humanity emerged back.

[@TheClevera]

My man Jayce really started with the whole blow-a-gaping-hole-through-his-chest thing and not the hug. Could have saved a lot of people had we started with the hug.

[@stormveils]

silco being there was 100% fanservice and consider me serviced because i bought into it wholesale 😌 the jayvik ending was perfect for me too, overall s2 gave me everything i wanted

[@dillydraws]

It's because he read the letter Vander wrote in act 2. Jayce probably is also dead in that timeline.

[@anni3805]

I wish they made it explicit that Jinx didn't die. I was in a lot of intense pain from all that, especially after the "building new" talk. Even just a glance of her blue hair in the window, or some decoration on the blimp would have been better. I know some of this is just due to personal connection, I've had some friends stand on that ledge, but it just hurt to see so much hope for Jinx only for it to imply that she will have a better life. I know she did it to "leave things behind to move forward" but the audience could have been told. Also Ekko really deserved better. He literally did EVERYTHING AND HE WAS LEFT COMPLETLY ALONE. WHY TF DID THAT HAPPEN. I'm so mad.

[@Story_Trail]

Well at least I can always look forward to the Sarcastic Chorus video. 1hr long what a treat.

[@gmjach17]

I think Mel is being set up as a new champion to be released in the game.

[@DiamynNotDiamond]

I called Silco seeing the letter thing as soon as Silco showed up I figured out the timeline pretty quickly besides Vi being a welcome surprise it also hurts that Powder says "That's not funny." When Ekko asked, "How did she die?" That hurt because that means Powder blames Ekko for getting Vi killed since they got the location from. "little man" I immediately called the "bad ending" timeline universe too and as soon as we started to see the wizard in a white cloak I knew it was Viktor

[@jhalynmendes2746]

Its hilarious that singe is the one who won in the end

[@nani0logy]

The cell scene between Cait and Vi caught me WAY off guard 💀 I kept thinking to myself “Here?! NOW?!”

[@ClockworkGod]

That’s exactly my issue, they gave the idea that Jinx has to leave to "fix" things up so so late, while they were talking about building something new, and the whole thing with Ekko is so underdeveloped. Like to me her faking her death to her sister makes sense, and Piltover too, but I could have totally seen her just come back to Ekko to heal in the Firelight base because that is what it has been introduced to us as, a place of healing. And the firelights clearly aren’t hateful towards her anymore as we saw in act 2.

[@blaze_youtuber]

I was waiting for you to cry with me 😭😭

[@OnlyKarlos]

While I really did like this season of Arcane, I can't shake the feeling that some moments felt rushed. Like they just did a time skip over Caitlin being a dictator influenced by Ambessa and Noxus and Jinx becoming a symbol of resistance in just one act. Then, like you said, the whole class war between Piltover and Zaun is just set aside for the final battle agains Victor, Ambessa and Noxus. Then Mel is a mage and Victor is a time traveling prophet and Ekko is going through an alternative timeline and there's so much going on in so little time that I keep thinking there should be more of it. Maddie's betrayal, for instance, feels so hollow to me because she wasn't even a character before that. We don't even know why she did it, and of course it doesn't land because why would we care, she's just Caitlyn's rebound. Why not actually develop that, have their relationship be developed. Have Caitlyn trust her like Vi trusted her and then when the betrayal happens it actually lands. Maybe Maddie or Caitlyn are more hurt by this, maybe there's a greater sense of betrayal. That it didn't have to be this way. Or maybe just explore Caitlyn as a dictator more? The undercity/Zaun was already under systemic oppression when it was being ruled by a council, you had the chance to show Piltover being even more oppressive and dominant and what effects those have on the regular people of Zaun. Show why Jinx became a symbol of resistance, show why people believe in her, why they took her side. These could be a level of oppression even higher than Vander and Silco ever lived through, but it's not explored. It feels to me like it could be so much more, but they only had so many episodes and wanted to put everything in Season 2.