Arcane Success Didn't Translate To New League of Legends Players | Cast;e Super Beast 299 Clip

[@pleaseclap7890]

I saw a great post that just said “Trying League of Legends after watching Arcane is like trying meth after watching Breaking Bad.”

[@e-man7418]

I played like 3-4 games with a friend before Arcane came out. And I 100% agree.

[@CulturedDegenerate]

I've been playing League since beta, so I'm basically a meth addled sewer creature at this point. It's not really fun anymore but I'm too invested to quit. Fiending for 2xko to release already so I can enjoy tye League characters and universe without annihilating my brancells en masse every play session

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

Meth might actually be better for your health than league

[@juice6521]

The thing is that everyone has *already* played League. It's like the most popular game in the world next to Minecraft, Fortnight and GTA V. If they didn't convince the last holdouts to try it after season one of Arcane, they surely have with season two.

[@Zeik56]

​@@juice6521Then I will be the last holdout until the end of time. Even if all the toxicity drama wasn't enough of a turn off, I still have negative interest in the game itself.

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

Imagine going from emotional scenes and gripping story in arcane to trying out league and getting told to kill yourself cuase you stepped out of lane for a second

[@Vanity0666]

Oh the misery

[@leithaziz2716]

Everyone Wants To Be My Enemy

[@literallyatiger64]

Every single person is my enemy

[@Dantarn]

Imagine going from the emotional scenes and gripping story of Arcane season 1 to immediately wanting to kill yourself after how hard Season 2 dropped the ball

[@217adaptiveperspective]

That's just Life

[@deleted_d00m48]

4:15 And no one knows League for a positive reason. It’s that game your boyfriend screams at when you’re trying to sleep. It’s that game your friend broke his setup over so now you can’t play Monster Hunter together. It’s that game your child is desperately trying to convince you will make him a millionaire. It hard to find nice things to say about the actual game

[@sodathejunker]

I watched my chosen sister’s last relationship deteriorate slowly and painfully because her boyfriend played League, and neither of them wanted to point to it as a problem. Got so bad dude had a separate “game room” with a bed and everything, sound proofed, just for playing League at night. He’d jump on after work to decompress and leave games more stressed out. They slowly stopped playing games together and she’d just play on the TV in the actual bedroom. He started becoming a slob and she turned into his maid overtime, cooking and cleaning and laundering after him… and when it was all over and they broke up bro tried one last time to go out for a drink with me and mans had ZERO personality or character to him. Total husk.

[@admiralpepper6933]

​@@sodathejunker Essentially, League is like the Reapers without all the biomechanical horror

[@Takyomi]

I wish I could say this was hyperbolic but I really hated when I went to hang with my pal back in HS and league always got in the way! I wouldn't call it doing drugs, but dammit it felt like a mini version of it.

[@thedualitysystem]

​@@Takyomi Gaming addiction sounded really stupid when it was added to the DSM-5 but damn some of these people really need help.

[@conelybiscuit4985]

@@admiralpepper6933 i'm sure there's plenty of biomechanical horror to be found within the average League player's keyboard

[@UltimateStarky]

As I saw a Mr. Chris Voiceman say: maybe it's not a good adaptation when your most effective word-of-mouth advertising is "Please give it a chance, it's nothing like the game"

[@derpstick5467]

Whoever that is, I disagree that it’s not a good adaptation just because someone else said something stupid like give it a chance, it’s not like the game. I know maybe is thrown in there but meh still disagree with him, it’s still a good show without the tie into league.

[@kilowyatt1107]

They also retconned out the current back story and lore of several other characters (Blitzcrank and Camill just to name two) to make Arcane canon in the main game

[@austin.....]

Did anyone even read this comment before the quotes? lol. This is just untrue and whoever mr chris voiceman is can find a different hobby. This is proof in point one of the BEST adaptations we've ever received, from any media. Bar none. I say that as one of the most annoying vocal anti-MOBA people there are! This show was fantastic and frankly League doesn't deserve it.

[@derpstick5467]

@@GlazedPotato still disagree with whoever that Chris guy is that it’s a maybe mid show if the devs need to say it’s nothing like the game.

[@torinriley7569]

@@derpstick5467 would you want to watch a show that emulates the experience of playing League of Legends

[@sirlenemodesto2665]

4:40 does Pat not know Riot killed all those projects? And fired most of the writing team?

[@chadrageus]

Probably not lol.

[@LieseFury]

they did? :'( some of those sounded cool...

[@sirlenemodesto2665]

@@LieseFury He talked about some finished games like the ruined king game, Sylas and Ekko game, but for example Legends of Runeterra, the card game, which is resposible for expanding the lore of EVERY region, has been abandoned and is running with the help of like...5 people tops. The only thing they're for sure working on is the fighting game and the mmo which is currently on development hell I think.

[@Andy_ARBS]

​@@sirlenemodesto2665 I think Pat mentioned before how LoR is dead. That said, the indie side dying probably didn't make it to them.

[@Squalidarity]

I have a friend who plays League regularly and _insists_ that she enjoys it, but literally every time I have joined a call and she happens to be playing she is the most irate and miserable I have ever seen her.

[@paulgibbon5991]

League is great when you're winning and miserable when you're losing (because comebacks are rare, so games are typically decided 10+ minutes in advance of the actual end). The euphoria of the wins keep you chasing that high.

[@johnrivers3813]

Have you ever witnessed a gambling addict at a casino?

[@silverphoenix4934]

​@@paulgibbon5991I have only played valorant and that shit is demonic. If I had a better game to play at the time I would have, that shit is so bad. Who the hell enjoys playing 45 min games (at least) where at the end losing means losing progression. And that's without the trolls.

[@Tukenfarben]

I've never seen any show have the player base actively campaign AGAINST playing the game, but for LoL, it makes complete sense. DO NOT play League of Legends.

[@sodathejunker]

I love how it made people love animation and cinema, watch the old trailers, get into lore dives, all the music videos, and even start playing Ruined King and Legends of Runeterra… but also exponentially grew the hatred for League proper.

[@ragnarosthefirelord8662]

ah my favorite fortified location, the cast;e

[@OfficialMinmo]

Leave it be it looks like 2000s anime title lol

[@carbide4458]

I don't know why they were surprised. Any other property they have their hands in actively avoids putting "League" in their titles. Folks at Riot know the name is poisonous.

[@Tyberes]

Pat mentioned it and I wanna follow up: The battle chasers game is called "The Ruined King" and, if you can overlook the lack of polish it's an excellent little RPG.

[@sirlenemodesto2665]

This situation is so bad that I saw a big League youtuber asking if it would not be better to build a League gacha game. You could play as the characters and explore the world and just avoid the Moba which also has gacha for skins you barely get to see.

[@leithaziz2716]

Worked out for Hoyoverse, Riot will probably follow suit.

[@MegaJackolope]

Dota isn't doing much better. I think the genre is pretty played out a decade later in a way where I am ten years older but the people that are still playing are not mentally ten years older, even if they have been there for 10 years. It's officially a social-level problem that everyone has failed to solve. I hadn't played in two months, booted dota up, within the first game I am queued with two duo lanes who wanted to play alone. No one came when I asked for rotations mid vs Shadow Fiend (free lane for SF if no rotations happen). Within 5 minutes all of them are bitching at me, calling me names, making excuses for themselves when I ask for rotations instead of just coming to the fights. I have 10k dota games played. I literally just asked people to show up to places and help any time I spoke. They turned into animals and scapegoated me in an impossible matchup, when every single game someone is going to lose mid. The fascinating part is watching someone with 4k games played on my team act like he doesn't know these things; he has to. He just perpetuates the same thing and never improves, never tries anything different, never works with teammates. The genre is dead. Communication skills are dead.

[@irondoomable]

Or just make a normal singleplayer game/ co op. That isn't a live service.

[@sirlenemodesto2665]

@@irondoomable nuh uh, Riot needs the money.

[@FiveTiger]

The isometric angle, the items, the characters, League is fucking BUILT to be ported into a Diablo style ARPG. I'd snap that shit up in a second

[@kaijuultimax9407]

LoL is fascinating in that it is a franchise in which people ONLY recommend the spinoffs.

[@spongichu9248]

I wonder if there are any other franchises like that?

[@shade1846]

@@spongichu9248 The only one I can think of is Megami Tensei I guess?

[@TrixTrix228]

That's me but with pokemon lol

[@leithaziz2716]

@@spongichu9248 Technically Warhammer, but there's several options, so it's a weird example.

[@zaneseibert]

@@spongichu9248 I don't think I've ever heard some say that they've played the orginal Fate VN.

[@Yeetbc]

Let me tell you my experience as someone who did download league as a result of watching Arcane. A big part of the reason why is I have friends who are really passionate about the world story and gameplay, and I assume the person reading this might know someone of a similar volition. They helped me understand the gameplay because that game DOES NOT TEACH YOU SHITTTTTT. I can’t possibly imagine someone ever sticking around without help from a third party which is so absolutely absurd from a game that has existed for this long. It’s like if a fighting game only taught you how to move, jump and throw a punch or a kick. What’s blocking? Shut up and look it up. Continuing the fighting game comparisons, the game definitely has a similar appeal of learning a character and everything they’re capable of and way to use their abilities in creative ways. And I can definitely understand why the game is engaging/addicting from this perspective. If you’re not familiar with league gameplay, you have to unlock your characters 4 main abilities by getting kills on players or the minion enemies. In other words everyone is playing Jamie sf6 in every game and is in a race to get to level 4 so they can actually have fun with their kit. The fact that they really thought they could get a casual audience into a game like this is baffling. I dropped it for Marvel Rivals in like a week and a half.

[@demilung]

A better title is "Arcane's Success *Shouldn't* Translate to New LoL Players"

[@andremarques4863]

Well, sure, but it still hasn't, so no worries on that front

[@CaptainSagit]

by the way, the tie in content for runeterra was unfinished cards, champs with no level up animation, cards with no description BUT YOU CAN BUY IT ALL IN A BIG BUNDLE OF MONEY!

[@Samael1113]

League of Legends has a story! It's even been retconned and/or completely rewritten more times than DC/Marvel in a lesser span of time - like 4 times now (in maybe 15 years of existence). And every few months is a new spinoff / whatif / elseworlds story.

[@StrumstarHammer]

I wonder how people who don't play League of Legends would react to knowing that they retconned THE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS out of the game.

[@bigbrowski410]

For people curious, there are decently popular characters in League that literally don’t exist in canon because of all the retcons. Their story bits amount too “wow look at this guy he’d be cool if he was around huh”

[@paulgibbon5991]

And then there's stuff like the Sentinels of Light...

[@bosscoolaid1015]

I miss old Viktor

[@chrisdaughen5257]

That’s just a sign the concept is ever-green.

[@LouiSwagula]

When I’m watching Arcane I’m not like “wow I sure do have an urge to play as these characters in an isometric view and watch cooldowns fill up”. While I’m watching Vi dempsey roll on a magical crackhead I’m filled with the need to do a stinger into a high time and then air juggle the yordels. Like all Arcane did was make me want to mash buttons

[@The5lacker]

That's good news for the League Fighter that's out... eventually. Bad news for the League games that currently exist.

[@zaneseibert]

Sounds like 2XKO might be in your future though.

[@ApexGale]

Their tie in content was a 200 dollar gambling skin. Nobody who has only watched Arcane is gonna buy that shig

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Riot can produce the greatest thing since sliced bread, doesn't change how stinky their game is

[@DiranJiru]

“For an animation studio, they make a lot of games.” Is a quote I often think about when it comes to Riot Games.

[@ApexGale]

Riot Games has still only made 3 games inhouse (League, Valorant, Legends of Runeterra), 4 once 2XKO comes out. All the others were outsourced to established companies...and they shut down that initiative, so....

[@bigdrew7942]

I tried League a long time ago I was immediately bullied for being terrible at the game and I have never looked back.

[@thecaptain6520]

League of Legends will forever be known as that one game that your friend's friend *really* wants you to play, so you download it, and not only does it suck, but he barely plays it, if at all.

[@Mugwise]

Or he plays it a ton, but it always makes him mad (guilty)

[@robotbootyhunter6878]

I was convinced to download and play the game because “it’s free, dude.” Once I did, I discovered they would never even consider teaming with a no-ranker who had just started playing.

[@sagecolvard9644]

For me, League will always be known as that game 2 of my friends play that they both insist that I should NOT play.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@sagecolvard9644 Your friends be like “it’s too late for me…save yourself.”

[@Frank-zb7zh]

Apparently, Sonic Adventure 2 and SxS Generations have a lot of new people buying them after the release of Sonic 3. At least according to steam, anyway.

[@leithaziz2716]

Not sure if it was AFTER the release of the movie, but yes, Shadow Generations is the fastest selling Sonic game. I believe it sold above 1 Million in a week or so.

[@powerprotoman]

turns out when the games are good people recommend and buy them, Who knew?

[@Kriss_ch.]

Sonoc Generations is like the best game Sonic Team have made in 20 years, but it would be nice if they could make a better one in the next 20. If all else fails I'll accept another expansion though

[@Mr.Faust3]

THATS THE YEAR OF SHADOW EFFECT BABY LETS GO!!!!

[@Platitudinous9000]

@@Mr.Faust3 it's his year and we're all living in it.

[@andremarques4863]

I'm very proud of the people who watched Arcane but didn't let it corrupt them

[@everforward5561]

The Cast;3 system arc begins nnnnoooooooooow.

[@SuperGreenSmartie]

Back when I played League, I once had a guy ragequit b/c I damaged some minions. Mind you this person was on my team but apparently having your support attack minions is a grave sin. That game is truly a poison for anyone who plays it.

[@Snigglegros]

definitely an over reaction, but the support attacking minions can fuck up wave management if they are trying to freeze lane. They should tell you calmly what they were planning to do, but that person probably should have quit playing for the day a couple games ago.

[@GoldLight73]

Pat is both wrong and right. One of the spin-off games, Convergence, takes place in Zaun and stars Ekko. However, it takes place in a radically different version of Zaun and stars a radically different version of Ekko. Arcane fans trying to get into the broader lore will find this is a recurring issue.

[@malum9478]

it's a shame too, because convergence is a great game as far as gameplay, but the story and characters are WAY weaker than arcane's. the only really cool idea is the concept of future ekko with the z-drive built into his body. but his whole home life, his random friends, and him being like...13 years old are all way less engaging than the moody, late teens to early twenties, gang leader/revolutionary underdog messiah-of-the-steampunk-slums thing he's got going on in arcane.

[@GoldLight73]

@@malum9478 I respectfully disagree. I like Arcane Ekko, but I also adore him actually having parents. The scene where Ekko's dad scolds him for basically trying to save-scum a conversation with his mom goes hard, and really puts into perspective how something like the Z-Drive can fuck with your perspective on life. What are consequences when you can just rewind until you get the outcome you want? Convergence's overall story and character writing was undeniably weak, but I think Ekko's arc specifically was pretty great.

[@cybergeek11235]

I for one am a huge fan of the "Cast;e Super Beast" podcast.

[@Mr.Faust3]

Do not listen to the csb podcast

[@cybergeek11235]

@@Mr.Faust3 no but i wanna tho

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

My favorite article about this is actually from the first season: "You won't find any of the character or world of Arcane in League of Legends" -"You will be called a slur though"

[@dragirby]

The absolute worst part is that... There are tie ins to the regions. Demacia had the mage seeker game, and Piltover had the Ekko game. But no one played them because they were NOT very well advertized because by the time they came out Covid was over and riot was running out of free loan money. but beyond that, those games are NOT CANON. THEY DIRECTLY CONTRADICT THE CURRENT GAME. THE EKKO ONE RELEASED AFTER ARCANE SEASON 1 AND IS INVALIDATED BY THE ENTIRETY OF SEASON 2.

[@MrShirotomo]

Thats not true the Mageseeker is absolutely canon

[@TheRandomLetsplays]

Pat is correct, League of legends is a miserable experience. The reason they won't ever add voice chat is because they know how toxic their playerbase is and they refuse to ever add it. Can you believe League which is a hyper competitive game doesn't even have built in voice chat?

[@SarpSpeaksSometimes]

Doesn't it have built-in voice chat but only for the people you're partied up with? Like you can't use it to talk to any matchmaking randos even in your own team, but you can talk with your pre-mades I think. So it shouldn't be much of a problem for e-sports actually. Edit: Oh you were saying competitive in general not just talking about e-sports, my mistake. Yeah it is pretty funny how regular players cannot talk to everyone in their team in ranked matches unless they're a premade party of five.

[@TrojanGamer10]

Wow, it's almost like people are driven away by a toxic community.

[@azureoni3491]

I'm just waiting to see that League MMO they're working on

[@li-limandragon9287]

I pity the audience formed by this show encountering the cesspit that is the League online community for the first time.

[@jadedragon216]

After the first season, I tried out the Ruined King game and tried out the Ekko Metroidvania game after season 2. If the fighting game was out, I'd be trying that out right now. But no, it didn't even cross my mind to touch the main League of Legends game.

[@Mr.Faust3]

Also doesn't help everyone and there grandmother who plays league actively tells you to not play league

[@Step43099]

Yuh. Even then League has such a high learning curve on it's own most people who aren't super dedicated to actually getting into it will not stick

[@wado_ichimonji2311]

Yeah maybe people who played twice and got upset

[@DGrayEX]

​@@wado_ichimonji2311 Impressive levels of cope there.

[@cagedcoco1681]

My favorite is when the PopStars video released during a mass layoff/writer's strike

[@lyoko96shippuden]

Typo in the title: Cast;e Super Beast

[@ozzell]

I just want them to make an RPG or story based game set in the Arcane/LoL universe that feels like the Arcane show.

[@StardustSynchron]

League scares me lol. Like many other people, I tried it after the first season of arcane. Boy oh boy that was something. So many people were mad so I just stopped after a few games 😅

[@The5lacker]

To be fair: Riot *does* actually have a spin-off game set in Zaun following some of the major characters of Arcane, namely Ekko. It's just also one of the worst ones, and is entirely unrelated to Arcane in every way, shape, and form.

[@sodathejunker]

Convergence, right? So much potential 😔 Really fun to play, but very milquetoast otherwise

[@Valanway]

Ekko is just bad luck

[@jimbob1862]

Leagues very weird because when I started years ago they'd randomly add in event modes that honestly just felt far more fun than the usual mode and its 90% of what kept me going in the hell phase that is starting. And then they would always be taken out and you're forced back into typical league, or if you dare to play casually Aram which has its own issues League is at its best when its a casual simple objective mode so you can focus on having fun with your hero, but riot seems allergic to actually just supporting that regularly for people who want to jump in and out. I just quit the game entirely rather than wait for an actual fun mode.

[@Azymyth]

I look up at game tag for this video that says League of Legends 2009 and I'm like "It's been out only that long? It's felt like longer."

[@Foostini]

These past few have been Episode 300 clips but they're being labelled 299

[@SuperZergMan]

I downloaded the game, played a few bot matches, played my first pvp match, and then never went back.

[@mugin92]

A friend tried to get me into League back in college. I thought the lore sounded cool but I stopped playing the game after less than a week of playing with actual people.

[@e-man7418]

At this point Riot should just take this as an opportunity to diversify their business. Riot can make 10/10 shows like Arcane Riot games can make the lore for those 10/10 shows through the medium of toxic MOBAs

[@adams3627]

Everybody knows about League (positive) But also: Everybody knows about League (derogatory)

[@DakotaDean-cd3zg]

My experience with mobas has always gone like this: Download game cuz it looks cool, join casual match, pick character that looks cool, start playing, get called slurs or have someone call me a troll or a thrower within the first two minutes, quit and never go back to that game. Theres just something about Mobas that attract all the wrong kinds of people and turn them into even worse versions of themselves. Why am I expected to know every little detail about the game and my character and have read x pro player's dissertation on the meta before I ever click play.

[@Neoxon619]

It’s not unlike the myth of the “Smash Effect”. Many argued that having a character being included in Smash help increase the sales of the franchise represented, but that rarely ever ends up being the case. Fire Emblem struggled for years despite its Smash inclusion before Awakening, Dragon Quest XI S & ARMS didn’t see a noticeable boost in western sales despite the former being blatantly advertised in Smash, and even Xenoblade 2’s supposed bump in sales was within the norm for its long-term sales.

[@inconemay1441]

People just want their funko bimbo platformer mascots

[@RandgrisAlmark]

There are a number of reasons to not play LoL and the community is absolutely at the top of that list.

[@Kriss_ch.]

I wasn't about to get Cyberpunk 2077 just 'cause I enjoyed the anime, but at least that bears a _resemblance_ to the game it's based on.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

More like the anime gaslit people into thinking the game was good

[@leithaziz2716]

@@Kaarl_Mills Not really? The show introduced people to a setting they found fascinating, and they could then transition to the game to get more of that. The game was unfinished at launch, but the worldbuilding and writing were never part of that problem.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

@leithaziz2716 it was like a switch flicking, all of a sudden the discourse went from "how could they release it like that" to "umm actually, CP2077 is an underrated gem" *precisely* as soon as the anime came out

[@RicochetForce]

@@Kaarl_Mills No. By the time Edgerunners came out Cyberpunk had already received heavy amounts of patching that resolved the overwhelming majority of technical issues. It was already on an upswing. Not just that, but the game's story and quests were always good. This meant going from Edgerunners into the game was a smooth handoff from one medium to the other. Furthermore, the show explicitly uses the game's locations, lingo, and even music. What CDPR did is what Riot should've done, but blatantly did not.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

@@RicochetForcePlus, Cyberpunk 2077 is already based on an existing TTRPG series, and is actually a direct sequel to the older material set in the same universe. Guys like Johnny Silverhand and Adam Smasher have existed since the 1990 TTRPG, Cyberpunk 2020 (but not the very first Cyberpunk TTRPG, which wasn't even set in the Night City universe).

[@gettingannoyedquick]

I tried TFT after watching Arcane not sure if that counts though. To correct Pat on something being tied to Arcane they currently have a set based off of Arcane going on right now in TFT that has been out for a bit.

[@TheRogueWolf]

_League of Legends_ is an exemplar in the reach of its reputation outside gaming circles. I've known people who aren't much at all into gaming who've still heard about how toxic that game's community is.

[@jase8975]

I just want more Yordle shortstack art...

[@kingofbel6499]

The actual problem is that LoL sucks. If the gameplay was fun, Arcane fans would still play it with or without story. Everyone knows by now the bad fame LoL has of being a toxic and repetitive moba game. Obviously such game is not appealing to anyone that isnt already addicted to it, or have friends that obviously make the game experience bearable. Also theres LoL spinoffs now but apparently they are so bad that even I who is someone interested in the LoL universe have barely heard anything at all about them. This would have been a completely different situation if they had released the MMORPG already, which from the details they gave so far seems like it will be great.

[@nuclearhardt]

Cast;e Superbeast, a new classification of human being

[@tylanderma]

I don't know if they ever covered it, but there IS a spinoff game in Piltover and Zaun, STARRING EKKO, the only issue is that it's SUPER NOT CANON now because of Arcane. It's called Convergance and it's a decent platformer, but its story is now completely obselete to the canon of League.

[@master-of-frogs5415]

Was into league a few years back; hopped into my first competitive game; all of the other players were level 300+ needless to say I had an awful time and never returned

[@tychoazrephet3794]

My partner and I just finished with season 2 of Arcane after years of me actively avoiding it because yeah, even people who’ve never touched League like myself know about it, for all the worst reasons possible. Like I *could* talk about the show and it’s one merits and faults, but none of that really matters if Riot themselves is gonna treat it like a glorified commercial for literally THE most toxic video game ever made.

[@moddrew546]

You know it's for moments like these that I never got into League of Legends. To me it's a bunch of shit thrown at the wall that doesn't stick, and I doubt this discrepancy between between the game and show (despite the recent despreate tie-in retcons I heard from long time fans) is going to help 2XKO's (still a god awful name) matters either as that's kinda being it's own weird thing.

[@Uncledoodsauce]

imagine getting into smash after watching the mario movie and then finding out about the sex scandals and broken gamecube controllers

[@luistomasfs]

Ill never forgive them for shutting down Riot Forge. I like the idea that there is a shared world between these different games that seem to tackle a range of genres with different characters, settings, and art styles (something akin to Steamworld). I guess all I have to look forward to are those other proposed animated series they're working on post Arcane and 2XKO but that is it. Unless there's more supplemental material like comics and such that is worth looking into.

[@valvadis2360]

Well, Demacia has the Sylas videogame

[@Gatherway-Duo]

WAIT ARE YOU TELLING ME VALORANT IS A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS SPINOFF?!??!

[@johnrivers3813]

Wait... arcane is about League of Legends?! With little cursory knowledge I swear I thought it was about overwatch

[@toddvogel8887]

Ah, another clip from my favorite podcast, Cast;e Super Beast.

[@JackgarPrime]

Man, they really are putting a lot into promoting their new fighting game!

[@tylercafe1260]

5:18 FF14 is dying because the newest Expansion has little to nothing related to any of the previous stories because the last expansions story was written as a definitive ending to the whole setting. FF14 story is done for most people. Like that is a finished story that you can watch and digest. It's not like WoW where there's always some wiggle room. They really said "And you main character retired as an Adventurer of the World. Lived happily ever after...." And then the plot kept going.

[@FightingDuskstalker]

Riot actually shut down Riot Forge, the team that was making most of the spin off games. And the team for the digital card game got gutted so they had to pivot to only making new content for the roguelike deckbuilder mode. The frustrating thing is Riot Games is capable of making high quality products, but they're so stuck on League's business model that they can't see anything else as a success. "League does just fine posting a music video to KZbin once a year, that should be all the marketing any project needs."

[@Kaarl_Mills]

*Game best known for how many slurs it can invent, shocked that no one wants to play it*

[@TheParserable]

The Ruined King: A League of Legends Story was great. All they need to do is repeat that with Arcane characters.

[@haydenkinney5318]

I will play the fighting game when it comes out and if they ever make a Zac show I will watch that. I will do nothing else Riot, I know how terrible your main game is.

[@yukiminsan]

3:06 So you're telling me there wasn't enough Brand Synergy? 🤔

[@Weap0]

I'm not sure who said it but I swear I read someone say, They don't make Arcane to get new League Players. They sell League skins to make stuff like Arcane.

[@kaithekittycat]

The series wasn't meant to translate to *new* league players, it was meant to get previous players who stopped to return to the game. Like my stupid ass. God dammit.

[@Doomroar]

"Let's completely remake the lore of our game for the 5th time, and then pass this detached thing as cannon, by saying it is the main universe of our multiverse franchise in which lore doesn't really matters, because anything goes really" "Oh people are really liking the characters, setting, and story, wonder why they are not jumping back into our main product which has pretty much nothing to do with it, because the lore doesn't really matters, and anything goes really?" Did they forgot that their main product was a MOBA and not an RPG or even and adventure game? well they can make one if they really want, they actually have multiple games now

[@Oscar97o]

Arcane doesn't completely rewrite the lore of the game. Outside of the whole hextech stuff and Viktor becoming an entirely different character, most of it is very minor retcons.

[@Blagno4]

I'm convinced you people do not watch the videos before commenting

[@prowlingmonkey]

It is like reverse Smash Bros.

[@crinosG]

There is a Ziggs game that takes place in Piltover/Zaun I think

[@Azarian]

Demacia does have a spin off game in "The Mageseeker" the problem is all these games besides Song of Nunu which is connected to the canon lore. Runeterra's lore is a mess but I love it so much. As for the game itself, it can be really fun with buds.

[@Lynxystem]

Ide describe the League of Legends fanbase and game the same way 50 Cent describes Ja Rule when asked to say something nice about him: "He's Alive."

[@tostisgood]

I am not surprised.

[@OldSpaghettifactory89]

i was actually close to giving League a shot, as a long time casual Hots enjoyer. around when I downloaded it was when they announced they were adding that sketcherino kernel anti-cheat that monitors everything on your computer EVEN when you aren't playing League. that last part was what really got me. so i ended up deleting it and waiting to see if theyd back down, and then the update came and the reports came in of vanguard bricking peoples machines and I decided yeah, I don't want to play a moba *that* bad. so i can image that kept a lot of potential recruits away as well. ironically though i havent watched arcane

[@TheParserable]

I love Cast;e Super Beast!

[@bigbrowski410]

The craziest thing I’ve seen come out of this was Riot August, a lead designer, coming out an saying in response to”we don’t make Arcane to make money for League, League makes us money for things like Arcane” which is not only some insane levels of cope (I know he’s a dev so he literally has to say it for his job security) but it so blatantly untrue considering Riot’s big projects to expand the League ip have slowly been getting cut back if not out right canceled. The only things now are 2XKO and the MMO that totally still exists.

[@MrShirotomo]

They also have the Tcg they are gonna release next year.

[@Valanway]

It's not that crazy. FFXIV is the same with for Square Enix (even if, just like with lots of League projects, they squander what they already have by taking the budget away and allocating it to bullshit nobody thinks will succeed, and oh surprise, mostly hasn't.)

[@acksawblack]

Except its not insane you just have no idea how to build a brand. Arcane isn't to make money for league, its a platform to allow riot to grow beyond league.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

I love Cast;e.

[@tiberiuskirk2593]

If they announced an MMO it would probably be the final nail in WoW. Which would be hilarious given League and Blizzard's history.

[@willadkins1354]

I mean, I wanted to play Caitlyn, but I already have League a try before. I learned to enjoy this time.

[@HectorLopez0217]

PC can run League while Console can’t ergo Console gaming is superior

[@way2creative]

Here before the title gets fixed

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

If they made more RPG's like Ruined King with a storyline like Arcane, it would've worked

[@chriswest6988]

Pat mentions the existence of other games in the same setting and kind of brushes them off for not being in the same part of the world. But do we actually know one way or the other if Arcane got anybody to buy convergence or mageseeker or to play tft?

[@Mattismen]

When people got upset that Arcane didn't win Best Adaptation at The Game Awards I got somewhat confused, because regardless of its quality, it is not exactly a faithful adaptation of its source material, or the experience of playing it.

[@ice_queen9]

watching videos of league of legends players freaking out is always fun, tho

[@michaelmaguire4147]

6:00 (unless things have changed from back when I played) actually league tries to sidestep the "balance optimization" problem by using it's fuck off sized cast. Rather than try to find a perfect balance, they would just rotate the meta every season by buffing & nerfing various characters, which because they have like 1,000 of seemed to go mostly fine.

[@Vanity0666]

This is why they were also making a fighting game, card game, mmo, adventure games, rpgs, and tabletop games. The Ekko metroidvania, the Ruined King RPG, and 2xko are the only ones that made it out.

[@superpowerman4354]

What’s the Ekko Metroidvania called?

[@valvadis2360]

And the Sylas action game in Demacia

[@leeverguy]

Honestly people would go crazy if they commissioned a publishing house to make League of Legends/Arcane themed D&D/Pathfinder content. Pathfinder 2 already works really well for this type of kitchen sink setting.

[@Tenkurel]

Forgot about Song of Nunu.

[@chrisdaughen5257]

It’s not AAA, but there is Convergence, a 2D platformer revolving around Ekko. Of course it doesn’t use his Arcane design and backstory so show watchers might not get into it.

[@TrojanGamer10]

Meanwhile, the Fallout show was a critical darling and made the Fallout games, especially Fallout 76, a massive success. Like, seriously...FALLOUT. SEVENTY FUCKING SIX!!

[@li-limandragon9287]

Fallout is one of those franchises that was an easy W in the making. Not everything needs to adapted sure, but it definitely helps longevity. Soulcalibur could still be alive if Namco bothered to let even a crappy OVA pass.

[@RicochetForce]

@@li-limandragon9287 I'm surprised Soul Calibur hadn't gotten an open world adventure game with the cast in addition to an OVA or something. Their single player modes in the games show they'd work quite well in something like that. Unfortunately, Bandai-Namco has no interest in developing the Soul Calibur franchise.

[@HannibalBeerus73]

As goofy as it is, there WAS tie in content for the first season, but it wasn't with LoL. In Valorant you could buy Jinx's revolver as a skin but it was limited time, I'm not sure if it's buyable anymore