D&D Yimby Appears | Castle Super Beast 299

[@bobsapdagger]

Hey Pat, why do you never play DnD? "I had a bad experience but I'm giving it another shot" Hey Pat why do you have a gun? "I had a bad experience but I'm giving Jimmy another shot"

[@The5lacker]

Okay, all prospective GMs out there, you need to understand: You *have* to nip this kinda shit in the bud. You can't just let someone be an asshole and cause problems and hang around forever. They will drive other players away. You will be left with only them and people like them. You will get a reputation as the GM who doesn't care. Sit them down, talk with them about what's acceptable, what's cool, and what's expected of them, and if they can't do that, *kick them to the fucking curb.*

[@Cudddlefish]

The two most important skills for a GM to have are knowing when to say yes and knowing when to say no.

[@dudere]

I had a rule in my group. Your character can keep secrets, you can't. I had one friend take me up immediately. He said he wanted a wizard but to lie to everyone and say he was an archer. This made games hilarious. They were having fun playing gullible idiots watching this archer shoot weird explosive arrows.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

My last D&D group became intolerable because of this. One dude more or less can do whatever he wants, no matter how obnoxious. He does everything Jimmy does in this story and more. I quit because I just found him exhausting. The DM is like, "Well, it's very hard to get a D&D group together in rural Montana. I can't boot him." It had the weird side-effect of turning everyone else into shallow versions of their characters, as they knew not to try to do too much, given our Jimmy's propensity to do whatever, whenever. Least fun I've ever had with D&D.

[@cosmiclass3622]

The geek social fallacies are decades old now but people still fall into them so easily, like "oh I do not want to be an ostracizer, you are all my friends and my friends are friends of my friends, everything will work out." Like. No. You gotta have those uncomfortable talks.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@morganqorishchi8181 I live in rural Montana, and that DM needs to understand you absolutely can boot him, and moreso they need to boot that player if the player refuses to respect the other players in the game.

[@Shadowlily1112]

I wonder how confident Pat is that this guy won't see the clip

[@nekky9534]

Considering how insecure the guy is, that might be a W.

[@matehiqu9905]

i think he just doesn't care

[@covetouscat9597]

I think he's hoping he sees it

[@BiPolarUrsus]

Crazy talk is activating. I wonder how long it will take for it's effect to reach it's targets. And how it will interact with Clown World this time.

[@Kango234]

He probably sent him the link.

[@goetia1848]

its wild how fucking passive the DM is in all of this, dude really was just fucking Curly for real.

[@timlerch7425]

As Woolie put it: "He failed to identify the dead pixel." I'm so down for Mouthwashing to further invade CSB.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

The fact pat had to explain the problem in A BUTT LOAD OF DETAIL just for the dm to go "oh I see the problem "tells me this man wouldn't have even picked up in what Mouthwashing Jimmy did until Anya did what she does near the end.

[@popecoke9342]

Bro, all DND horror stories are like this. There’s a clear problem player, and the DM does nothing. Luckily, as a DM, I have needed had to deal with this, because I can identify who is going to be a problem/can’t be reasoned with. I’m very selective for who I let play at my table for this very reason.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

@@popecoke9342 nah I've seen the "whole table is the problem" & the "dm is the problem" stories as well as the "Op is a shit bird but pretending the others are the problem "

[@Kaarl_Mills]

​@@popecoke9342 I mean there's also stories with a problem GM, those stick in the mind a lot more

[@howiewong7057]

The part where Jimmy wrote *fanfiction* in the Facebook chat had me double take and realize “Oh this person had actual zero regard for anyone else at that table, this is all for him”

[@MarsYaco]

fr, it's one thing if you wanna write it and be like "hey if anyone is interested i wrote up some extra backstory for my character, i can send it etc." but to just DUMP THAT SHIT IN THERE IS WILD

[@Thorn16]

He's the main character, everyone else is just an NPC to him.

[@IchorousIcarus1]

Devil's advocate: I play DnD, and have played with people doing this fanfiction dump thing before who weren't asshats. The fanfiction drop is something I've seen done by people who are to some degree lacking confidence they could act out the scene in a way they'd like. That lack of confidence could be doubting their own ability, understanding there isn't enough table-time for it, or not believing their scene partners will participate satisfactorily. The fanfiction drop itself just means disjointed engagement, it's only paired with the additional context that it's seemingly selfish behavior.

[@Urthdigger]

I admittedly have done this before, but it was a matter of "Ok, I want to RP this scene out, but this is literally just me on my own doing a thing." So at the table it was just "Yeah I do a thing, here's the rolls to resolve the stuff I'm trying, bada boom." got it done quick and easy without hogging all the time to my solo thing, and then the text was there later if anyone wanted to see how I imagined the scene going.

[@mattb6616]

@@IchorousIcarus1 some people just like to flesh out their character concepts. not everyone has to read it. it's usually between the DM and the player writing it, but it's there if the others want to check it out. i've seen people do this in literally every game ive ever played in or GM'd

[@fien111]

These aren't Red Flags, they're Crimson War Banners. These are the colors and sigils of House That Guy

[@markhalm9889]

House that Guy is great.

[@LessDevoid]

The DM knowing what Jimmy was doing is some real garbage. The fact that they didn't make Jimmy change his character but Pat and Paige changed to "fix" the problem is insane. The DM is letting Jimmy know he can do whatever he wants because everyone else will change or leave to make things work.

[@clockworkphysicist]

Ah yes. The Curly

[@AdMerIin]

Yeah the DM is soft balling for Jimmy because they know he's not responsible and level headed enough to be change. I got pulled into a random DND campaign my cousin ran on roll20 for a while because one guy dropped out. My cousin was originally a player, not the DM, but the DM got hammered with work so he became a co dm. We had one guy who was a level of THAT guy and my cousin spent most of our time complaining about how much of a metagaming main character he was. He warned me to play a side character type just to deal with this guy, so I ended up running a mercenary bard that had some story hooks, but was mostly there because the DM PC that was my cousin's original PC paid me to be, thus I never stole the show or acted like a face despite being a bard.

[@JackgarPrime]

Jimmy should be forced to change. Pat deliberately asked everyone what they were making so as to avoid overlap. This guy decided to be coy for no reason and deliverately witheld information from the other players. He has to be forced to change. Not to mention that Pat is the newest player to the game. Out of courtesy, he should be the one who gets first dibs on what he wants to play.

[@unamusedrohan1666]

Considering Jimmy wanted it to be a secret, the DM probably thought Pat's reaction to the double-up would be easier to deal with than Jimmy getting upset over his surprise getting spoiled.

[@unamusedrohan1666]

@@JackgarPrime Unfortunately, if Pat's right about Jimmy being unoriginal, then it's likely there's no back-up plan Jimmy would ever agree to if he was forced to change. Pat just wanted to play a spellcaster without overlap on anyone else, so it makes sense practically for him to make the swap. Would it be better for the group if Jimmy was given the "Get your shit together or take a hike" ultimatum? Probably. Would there be way more immediate drama regardless of his decision? Absolutely.

[@bottletop8670]

Woolie has never looked so proud of Pat than when he was talking about adding racism to his character.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

"Gooooooooooooooood..." *Woolie pulling the white sheet over his head like Palpatine*

[@blaacksugar7714]

Like a dog when it hears the word "walk".

[@Homodemon]

"You truly are a son of mine..." ass look

[@iller3]

Woolie is a simple man...

[@Triniwn]

"you know those guys who are too chill?" Ah we have a daisuke too

[@GashPlague]

Wait... does this make Pat... Swansea??

[@jpatel0398]

It’s insane how coincidental the timing of this campaign is fresh off the Mouthwashing discussion a couple weeks back.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

@@jpatel0398 I mean, there has to be a name for this sort of dynamic that's been around for a while. It just turns out Mouthwashing is the most recent and on-the-nose analogue to it, so it's easier to just call the guy Jimmy.

[@deimosphoibus]

@@GashPlague If anything, he's the Anya in this situation... he set up a very clear boundary (not wanting to play the same class as someone else) and Jimmy intentionally crossed it

[@Rixstarian]

@@deimosphoibus Jimmy's readiness to talk over Paige more than anyone else is as dismissive of her as a person as the real Jimmy over Anya. Swansea was there to absorb his spite, like how Pat's Warlock got yoinked.

[@ApexGale]

A good DM puts their foot down here. Pat shouldn't have had to change his plans at all. The DM should have messaged Jimmy privately and said "Listen, you've known for several sessions how Pat was planning to spec. You've been confrontational and rude multiple times - you cannot do this, and if you insist you're no longer welcome to play with us." I know that a lot of DMs just want to chill and have fun, but the unfortunate reality is some tabletop campaigns will just have assholes who take advantage of that

[@RocRolDis]

On the other hand, this is leading to some awesome potential stories.

[@ApexGale]

Oh, it's very entertaining for us for sure. But I've been in a situation like this and it's genuinely exhausting having to play with this kind of person.

[@rahjeel]

I'm a DM. I literally called out a former player for being a pissbaby asshole and being rude. This dude Pat is describing woulda been outta the game day 1

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Alot of DMs see themselves as just another member of the group having a fun time. Which absolutley CAN be the case. But when you have an open table like this ESPECIALLY with new players, you aren't offorded that luxury. You are the captain of the ship. You are the MC for the evening. If people have problems, YOU are the person there explicitly to solve them. Politic-ing and deligating may be as fun as nails on a chalkboard but its your job as the defacto host of the session. Just how it is. I had to sit a friend down who was a golden retriever of a man and tell him that while HE thought it was fun to completely ignore the backstory and premise of the campaign (he was BRAND new and playing a rogue) that it was draining the fun from everyone else at the table and actively making DnD unenjoyable. That wasn't a "fun" conversation to have with a close friend, but it was necessary, and while we ALL thought it. I was the DM, so it was my problem.

[@MrBubblebox]

no a good GM resolves the situation with minimal conflict. and that includes only using confrontation as a last resort. Pat was willing to respec and the gm even worked Paige's thing into the story he had planned.

[@GurenSan]

Can't believe Pat got to rewrite himself to be racist against JImmy

[@syrushbluhr]

This is the motto of PatStaresAt, say and do insane things in game/for the stream

[@Kaarl_Mills]

*Insert writing fire gif here*

[@GashPlague]

Not sure what it says about Pat that he has weaponized racism in his back pocket for just such an occasion. I can't help but wonder if this is Woolie's influence.

[@JoseRS1186]

​@@GashPlagueweaponizing racism is half of DnD's mechanics

[@1Kendles]

Next week “…so Paige and I got kicked out of our D&D campaign…”

[@phengvang3395]

It'd be a blessing

[@Noxshade]

I remember Paige in chat saying that the DM was asking people to be nice to Jimmy who is 'having a rough time,' and that she was reaching her limit for tolerance of that shit. I'd like to think that I would also put my foot down and lay down an ultimatum in a similar situation, but realistically I'd probably just fold like wet cardboard and try to keep my head down.

[@darthrevan6]

Unfortunately some people will react to kindness as a signal of weakness and will act accordingly.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Yeah, I don't deal well with conflict myself either, at all. I'd honestly probably just stop going to avoid Jimmy's BS and find a different group. DM needs to realize that they may be destroying their RP group by trying to accommodate Jimmy's attitude and complete lack of respect for others.

[@ApexGale]

"Rough time" is never an excuse to be a prick. Period. If you can't curb your BS, taking part in an innately social game and bringing that energy there is willingly choosing to spread those bad vibes. If Jimmy can't get it together he shouldn't have even been allowed to take part.

[@jamesk7335]

"guess I'm just an asshole" Yes.... Correct

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Absolutely.

[@whiteblacklight9603]

Who, Pat? Always has been. I'm glad he's finally met his match.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

"Agressively storms off to smoke weed" is a statement I've never considered before, just the image of a man sat there angrily sucking down puffs from his joint is hilarious...

[@KotoRyu]

@@RipOffProductionsLLC "Angrily smokes weed" is like "angrily eats an ice cream cone" It's like Newman sitting in the theater watching Jerry make out

[@invaderpez12]

Always hate these types, where they expect people to go "nooo you're not an asshole".

[@TsumibitoPlays]

18:48 The only time in the podcast that racism made Pat more powerful instead of Woolie.

[@Vekilli]

Calling it now. Yimby is taking the "mask of many faces" invocation, and the "actor" feat so that he can still play as Pat's character.

[@mattb6616]

the immediate thought was that he was doing this as a bit in-character because it's some classic annoying Changeling crap.

[@Brandonious15987]

Jimmy sucks, the DM is a coward, and Pat's solution is terrible.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Yeah, that is fair.

[@hosvet_animation]

The flaw with Pat's solution is that he's trying to earn the respect of people who tolerate Jimmy.

[@IAMUtubeSockPuppet]

​@@hosvet_animation Also attempting IC solutions to OOC problems. Yes, he tried OOC solutions first, but the GM wasn't willing to put a real solution to Jimmy on the table. Only avoidance of the real problem. At that point, the only steps remaining are to escalate OOC or leave the game if it isn't worth it.

[@jaideay3003]

I mean it isn't a solution. He isn't trying to fix anything like... pat knows he is being a shit he just wants to and has plausible deniability. He wants to ride this out and having the ability to laugh to himself about healer dickery seems to be one way he's making this tolerable for himself.

[@Brandonious15987]

@jaideay3003 He said his solution is to make Jimmy's time worse and hope isn't invited to the next campaign.

[@sadv3]

Calling this guy "Jimmy" and the DM "Curly" is sending me. 😂😂😂

[@dfox2963]

So good lmao 🤣

[@jjj7790]

I actually love that Mouthwashing gave us easy vocabulary for this kind of situation.

[@nacicomi]

​@@jjj7790I mean, we always had "narcassist" and "enabler" but this is more fun

[@LeadHerring]

Does that make Pat the Swansea of the team?

[@ChaceGraves]

I really don't understand why this conflict had to happen? Pat set perfectly understandable boundaries and was super clear with his intentions about his character and this guy just trampled through all of it for ??????

[@p0laris74yt8]

As they said in another DND related vid a while back, some people want to basically have a solo campaign, and everyone else is a hinderance in their eye. Sounds like Yimby’s the same way, given how he talks over everyone and basically has the DM whipped.

[@elmilkmann]

Sadly some people are just selfish assholes like Jimmy

[@LessDevoid]

The DM is really to blame here. They just let Jimmy do whatever the hell he wants.

[@rikimaru700]

@@LessDevoid Just like a Curly

[@PegasusMerc]

Welcome to That Guys. It's good that Pat is having this experience earlier rather than later, so he knows what to watch out for.

[@cinnis5670]

A Jimmy is such a useful term for a specific type of person, and I'm gladly adding it to my lexicon.

[@Snake-x1t]

Im so sick of this "trend"

[@vcom741]

Lets not lol. Poor Karens are screwed already. Let's not kill Jimmy as a name

[@chrisbartolini1508]

@@vcom741Jimmy is such a solid name, I’d be okay with sacrificing “Darren” to the old gods. At least it rhymes.

[@Shevlander]

@@vcom741I’ll meet you halfway and say we use “Jimbo”

[@markcochrane9523]

@@chrisbartolini1508 Sacrifice Craig instead. No one named Craig has ever not been an asshole.

[@PregnantAdamSandler]

Okay, the fact he SLAMMED his hand on the table is a red flag, thats very extra

[@BlackHeart1216]

At any reasonable table that'd be an immediate telling him he needs to leave.

[@LessDevoid]

In the Grinch stream with Paige it came out that Jimmy threatened to punch Pat in the face during the car ride home after Pat made an obvious joke. I don't know why Paige didn't stop the car and kick the guy out right there.

[@CpnCrunch211]

Literally the same thing Jimmy did in mouthwashing at the table when Curly breaks the news.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@LessDevoid Ohhhhh, jeez.

[@Gitskreig]

I've only had one hand slam in an IRL group. It was me because my character was really mad and I got caught in the angry flow. I apologised profusely afterwards.

[@mika9578]

Pats response being to make his character go "TIME TO GET RACIST" is crazy

[@chrisboba8]

Awaken brodda , its time to purge the world from this fey disease

[@Dac85]

Pat "I don't want the conflict, also I will never heal them, the thing that is guaranteed to create a huge even biggerer conflict."

[@mattb6616]

definitely good to not ever talk about anything like an adult and only be a dick in game. this will always make things better

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

​​ @mattb6616 It's also important to note that "Jimmy" was the first person that chose to not communicate with the rest of the party and therefore the one who started all of this.

[@mattb6616]

@@pandagamer-hg5be ok but you still just resolve it like an adult.

[@galonEagle]

​@@mattb6616 So he didn't even bother to try? Understood, Curly.

[@Dracobyte]

Classic healer move!

[@MrLonelyIsland]

There are Jimmys everywhere. But they need Curlys to thrive.

[@Mrinsecure]

I should note that how Pat has chosen to handle this situation is basically the exact opposite of how most people typically advise handling this situation, i.e. addressing real world problems in-game rather than talking it out like adults. No matter how satisfying it may be, and whatever issues it may cause for your reputation, it's better to get rid of this guy than let him poison your gaming experience over the long-term.

[@mattb6616]

taking out your IRL grievances in-game instead of talking it out like adults is basically the single most toxic thing you can possibly do in this hobby yeah. jimmy sounds very annoying but pat legitimately sounds just as bad if not worse for choosing to do this. being a dick on purpose in game is not worth it and only makes you the asshole. in decades of playing and GMing ttrpgs we don't tell horror stories about the guys who write fanfic about their own characters, we tell horror stories about the people who ruin games by playing fucked up on purpose, who do PVP crap out of nowhere, who make secret plots against the other PCs, who try to get other PCs killed on purpose etc. being disruptive and trying to crash the entire game like ultimate warrior crashing the plane hulk hogan is actually bad.

[@user-ue8il6jx3b]

​@mattb6616 idk i think pats pettiness and his lore reason for it is actually super interesting and if jimmy can learn to not be an asshole center of attention kind of guy then pats character could experience some growth and not be racist and jimmy could grow as an actual person

[@curseofzeal]

​@@user-ue8il6jx3b Pat's justification isn't really all that sound. "Because I hate this specific monster/race typing in real life too" isn't grounds to stand on when his reason to use it is "so I can weaponize that to spite the jerk at our table." It's basically an "it's what my character would do" reasoning, and everybody *loves* when people pull that quote out. I can nigh-guarantee Jimbo isn't learning shit from such an experience. It'll just fuel the animosity if anything.

[@PotionSmeller]

Yeah Pat's the one telling the story here and we get more of his perspective but honestly I think the real horror story that comes out of this campaign would be from the perspective of those other players who have to be collateral to Pat and Jimmy's passive aggressive clownery.

[@kwicsilva]

@@curseofzeal counter point, jimmy sounds like what I like to describe as a social write off, I don't think there any scenario where he's learning and growing so pat's way of going about it only needs to achieve in removing this anchor of a human being. Would it be nice if they could sit jimmy down and show him the error of his ways? Sure, but in all likelihood it's not going to accomplish much and if the DM is going to just let it go on as is then pat's approach is the next best thing

[@PurFoncho]

In these situations, the ONLY correct thing to do is just politely tell the group you are not showing up anymore and exactly why. Life is far, far, too short to waste time hanging out with shitty people. Just go do something you'd enjoy instead. Who cares what this nebulous "greater DND community" thinks of you anyways? If they tolerate people like Jimmy, surely it's not a stretch to say they'd tolerate someone who politely bowed from a campaign BECAUSE of Jimmy.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Yeah, I agree. As fun as it will be to hear what happens, taking revenge on Jimmy in the game is not a very mature way to go about it. I would leave and make it clear why, but not because I'm more mature; it's because my aversion to conflict would override everything else.

[@HerpDerpTheTank]

Pat spends years hesitating to play D&D because of the horror stories he’s heard about D&D group drama. He takes a chance ONCE and gets THE ABSOLUTE WORST kind of D&D player in existence in his group. If Pat continues to play D&D after this, he is a braver man than most.

[@TenkDD]

Gets? You mean chooses to be.

[@Adaruan]

@@TenkDD I pray for you to never have to meet a narcissist like that so you stay blissfully ignorant and live a happy life.

[@Trash_Goblin115]

It's so wild that out of the 13 classes 9 sub classes and like a billion invocations he just picked all the same as you. Just don't let the Jimmy ruin your experience it is a very fun hobby.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

It sounds to me, on the current trajectory, that Pat is not going to have his experience ruined. He's already looking forward to more, has a possible way to avoid Jimmy on future campaigns, and has a whole separate other group of friends to play with if the current DM keeps letting Jimmy ruin the experience for others.

[@NosBlueade]

Can't believe some rando is really trying to flex his power level to (formally) Angriest Pat and Mustard Queen.

[@vladstroganov7709]

Pat: So I've chosen to be the adult in this, and changed my character, because I know trying to get Jimmy to change is gonna result in terrible drama. Also Pat: So my character is gonna be racist to Jimmy's character, also, I will never heal him. Everyone with experience: Hoo boy, that's not gonna cause a huge shit-splosion later down the line, way to dodge a rake by jumping onto a landmine!

[@mattb6616]

no, you don't understand, Pat is never wrong about anything. talking to people like an adult out of the game is bad, what you want to do is passive-aggressively neg him and also be regular aggressive in-character

[@bearful]

i want this course of action to blow up soooo badly so i can laugh about it tbh. being a "oh its yknow its just what my character would do" type guy where you're clearly venting irl frustration ALWAYS goes well

[@gameb9oy]

I mean, if you can see that, then you should realize the dm should have seen it coming and taken care of Jimmy, especially as there seem to be signs already that people already kinda know he can be like this

[@jled787]

TBF, as a caster you build around combat to try and not get hit or get damaged less.

[@binuxuser]

I don't think Pat cares. From what I understand the only thing he wants is to not be the one to blow up the game so it doesn't become some sort of mark on him. That table sounds unpleasant to be in what with Jimmy and doormat DM who does nothing, so getting some petty fun in really is the least he can do.

[@PregnantAdamSandler]

The smoking weed part is similar to a story Mandolor gaming told about a similar bad DnD guy (who was later revealed to not have been a friend of anyone in the group, everyone assumed he was a friend of someone else) where he took abottle of wine and walked outside to the porch in a huff. Unlike Jimmy he just didnt actually drink it

[@XDestroyoxZx]

He was also out there by himself for hours.

[@p0laris74yt8]

Can’t wait for Pat’s story of Yimby to spread to those r/rpghorrorstories channels like Den of the Drake. Lol

[@p0laris74yt8]

Also, don’t know if it’s just the way Pat’s telling it, but this sounds like this needed a Session Zero where the players can get acclimated with each other, iron out details/kinks with the DM, and weed out Yimbys before the campaign officially starts and ruination happens. Sorry, just been watching all of Bad DND stories and it’s funny how so many of those could’ve been avoided if people met up before starting anything.

[@MrJake8555]

​@p0laris74yt8 bro within a minute of the video loading up he says the phrase "okay so we have a session zero"

[@p0laris74yt8]

@ my b.

[@izendale]

@@MrJake8555 sessions zeros can differ in content. some might not realize the need for players to get acclimated to each other is as important as talking just character concepts, world building, and such.

[@grandobsidian]

Everytime I yelled at Pat to just play the game and it'll work out, I assumed he wasn't going to have the game store random asshole in the private friend group

[@BobbyHopp]

I know Pats afraid of tarnishing him and Paiges rep to the other people in their community, and they hit on this a bit in the cast, but having experienced things like this in the past I guarantee you that if you all are having problems with Jimmy many others have as well and if you do act it wont be "oh pat/paige are so rude and bad lets not play with them" itll probably be "oh thank god someone called him out on his shit fuck that dude"

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Maybe. I would hope. Or, everyone else in the group is too timid or conflict-avoiding to say the thing that should have been said a dozen times months ago, and the person who says something, rather than being seen as the solution, is just treated as somehow the cause of the problem because suddenly the crap is loud and up-front instead of just simmering. It can also heavily depend on whoever's moderating the group. If they've got a Curly in charge of moderating the group... who knows.

[@versebuchanan512]

24:38 Ah, yes, the classic. "I didn't ask how big the room is, I SAID I cast Fireball."

[@insanemindset2667]

Congrats on the DM Curly for demonstrating a variation of the Paradox of Tolerance. He wanted the game to be welcoming to everyone, but by allowing Yimby to be there, he let that selfish idiot basically override everyone’s wishes and ruin the game. This would’ve been avoided if the DM actually recognized Yimby’s bad behavior and not let him in the game from the start. After all, you can’t have a good community by having bad players like Yimby in. And the DM unfortunately did not know this lesson or take it to heart.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

We knew gatekeeping was a powerful and necessary force for good 15 years ago and the exact people we were gatekeeping out whined and whined about how it was bad and we had to stop.

[@MB-sq7yn]

@@tinfoilslacks3750 This wouldn't be gatekeeping though, this is showing someone the door after they've proven to be a bad faith actor.

[@autumnlotus6250]

It is gatekeeping. The intro game is basically the Checkpoint of the gate. If you act like an asshole, you get turned away. As opposed to pouring hot tar onto passerbys, which is the equivalent of "women shouldnt be allowed in dnd"

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@tinfoilslacks3750 Eh, it's not that simple. It rarely is. Gatekeeping itself can be, and often is, taken to really excessively toxic levels. You can have people justifiably complain about toxic and sh***y gatekeeping, and you can have toxic a**holes whining about good gatekeeping.

[@vidmuncher]

@@IstasPumaNevada It isn't gatekeeping that's the problem, so much as the metric that's being used. Much like being nice isn't a problem, but being manipulatively so IS

[@brendancasey7758]

As a DM myself, NONE of this shit would fly. I would talk to Jimmy and explain to him that I have a 3 strike system and if he doesn’t knock some of this shit off, he’s out.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Then you are a more responsible DM than the one in the story.

[@hosvet_animation]

Yeah the story really only needs to be as long as, "So Jimmy talked over people more than once in one session and the DM didn't think that was a problem so we left that group."

[@Dracobyte]

Nice system / rules.

[@ohheckitsthatkid7364]

I get why the DM is more passive bc that shit can spiral out of the game into real life. I have been DMing a game for 15 weeks and we had a player who would do similar stuff to Jimmy including telling me, the DM, what loot was in the room in my homebrew game and trying to introduce new NPCs through dialogue. I had to ask him to leave bc it was making me not wanna run the game, dude messaged me and all the other players multiple times insulting us and begging to be let back in. Shit was awkward for months.

[@imjustdandy9799]

Good job standing your ground and kicking them, it’s not easy.

[@AncelDeLambert]

It's a nasty bandaid to rip off

[@GuitarSlayer136]

I think DnD is a game built on the foundation of communication and interpersonal social skills. 2 things people that play DnD struggle with. Dearly.

[@conspiracypanda1200]

Awkward over messages is better than the hours of in-person/over call annoyance that all of you would experience over and over and over just to please that one guy...

[@mattb6616]

Writing in-character fiction about your own guy's backstory is not the same as trying to tell the DM what treasure is in a room or introducing new NPCs in town on your own.

[@Darkpegasus849]

Good player: paladin discusing possible backstory with the party ouside the game Bad player: Jimmy writes fanfiction and tries to make it cannonical to the game

[@AncelDeLambert]

🎶 It's time for Aaaaanimaniacs!

[@outis-aka-nobody1064]

And so Pat starts on the path to becoming Swansea.

[@chrisboba8]

"So pat you are going for cleric right? Wich weapon are you going to use?" *Two handed axe*

[@jled787]

​@@chrisboba8as long as it's made of Iron, anything's good.

[@theawkwardpotato264]

Everyone here is doing things a little wrong. Personally, I'd have a chat with GM, Fighter, and Paladin. If everyone is in agreeance, bump Jimmy. Jimmy needs to go, as soon as humanly possible. People like that only get worse, so just solving the problem was 100% the right way to go and the passive aggression likely won't help things. I hope it goes well for Pat nonetheless.

[@soma8756]

that’s not necessarily a viable tactic in a group of strangers. if a party is too passive, being the person who raises the issue can just make YOU the issue to them. esp if you’re a woman

[@sworddomo1951]

nah, turning jimmy into a blacklisted player, he freaking out will help their community

[@IstasPumaNevada]

@@soma8756 Yeah, I've definitely seen that happen in more than one group.

[@crushersbutlessedgynow]

Yea but as they mentioned, its likely that removing them will cause MAJOR issues, like burning the bridges on the way out. They need to be removed but also it might just be better to slowly kill the group then shift over without them.

[@IronUlysses]

Wow this dude is WAY worse than Pat let on on Bluesky holy shit.

[@HolyDeviant1]

Very happy that Pat has gone through the crucible of dealing with That Guy. Jimmy's a good appellation for it, too.

[@MrVile738]

No DnD is better than bad DnD, finding a party you actually want to play with is #1!

[@wednesdaygeckok.7899]

I was expecting a "i got this guy kicked" story and i was treated to a "so im gonna be racist next week"

[@LairPlair]

This is why im not personally super keen on running campaigns with complete strangers. Ive heard so many horror stories that it just sounds 10x better with friends.

[@imjustdandy9799]

I was the same way gut got desparate enough to apply to a game on r/lfg and playing with five strangers has actually been very good! They’re all fun and normal, but it is taking a gamble.

[@Champiness]

I think they _were_ friends, just moreso Paige’s than his.

[@AncelDeLambert]

You misunderstand. The Jimmy only happens BECAUSE he's someone's friend

[@Qamikace]

Also, you think you know someone until you play that one game with them...

[@ravensflockmate]

friends who share all your hobbies are a luxury

[@cybergeek11235]

"I heard some drama went down" oh so it was a D&D campaign, gotcha

[@Churono]

Jimmy is the worst, and Pat plans on handling him the worst possible way. Talking it out like adults might result in Jimmy storming off, but I think people would see it more favorably than what comes of passive-aggressively antagonizing him in-character.

[@CozyBanx]

"Forget" to list Jimmy as one of the exceptions when you cast Spirit Guardians.

[@rat8294]

What is it about dnd that attracts the chillest people and the most annoying and / or crazy people

[@werewolf873]

Chill people are attracted to the freedom of the rp crazy people are attracted to the structure of the stats and rolling dice annoying people want a world where they can be in control of everything and everyones actions and when the rest of the table doesnt play according to their fantasy they explode like children.

[@jbark678]

For annoying people, it's their only way to get people to be around them

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

It's cause it gives nerds a chance to shine and flex their imagination and creativitiy, the problem is like you said some people are cool with it and use it well and work with others while some get main character syndrome and go "This is my chance to shine and feel important and everyone will think I'm so cool." I say this as a nerd myself of course.

[@lkim100]

@@JojoDigitalArtist so theatre kids, from what i've heard.

[@rat8294]

​@lkim100 my old group was full of theatre kids and they were chill i think its more insecure people combined with that

[@namegone8035]

Is woolie writing down points like a psychiatrist?

[@Champiness]

Mandatory psych eval

[@conelybiscuit4985]

@@Champiness "i have found myself sexually aroused by casting fireball on Jimmy"

[@NaderinZim]

@@Champiness Imagine you go to a psychiatrist and after hours of venting out, he turns his notebook around and it just says: "YIMPY".

[@JackgarPrime]

The correct ruling from the DM in this situation would be that Jimmy needs to change his character class entirely. And he beeds to get on Beyond so everyone can see his character sheet. Not only is Jommy just wrong, but Pat, being the new player, should get first dibs on all character creation options.

[@ezlomacks6533]

I hate dndbeyond, but everything else, i agree with

[@iamnuff1992]

To be fair to people not wanting to use Beyond, it's EXTREMELY limited in what you can use unless you're willing to fork out hundreds of dollars for sourcebooks. If your DM has already paid those hundreds of dollars for his own (digital) books AND is willing to pay a monthly subscription to allow him to share those books with you, it's fine. But my DM wasn't willing to, so what people had access to varied across the table. I didn't have any sourcebooks at home, but if i'd had a bunch that were being used by other people on the table, but BEYOND wouldn't let me use them without buying them a second time, I'd be pissed. Also, Beyond's diceroll animation is dogshit. It lags the entire app to the point of freezing for like 30 seconds every time you roll. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with it.

[@JackgarPrime]

@iamnuff1992 Well the point of making him use Beyond here is that his sheet HAS to be on there so everyone can see what his class is. That way he can't pull this secret special snowflake bullshit again.

[@ezlomacks6533]

@JackgarPrime yeah, I agree with that, I will add that there are 3rd party apps that allow for that with no charge, there's also something to be said for pen and paper

[@JackgarPrime]

@ezlomacks6533 The issue was that this guy apparently used pen and paper and hid his character from the group that way. Nothing wrong with doing that on your own normally. But if you've proven some level of out of character untrustworhiness, from then on everyone should be able to see your sheet.

[@EnerKaizer]

Honestly, I expect the next update to Pat's first real DnD experience to either be A.: Jimmy actually started a fight during a seshion (with either Pat, Paige or the DM), or B. Him and Paige quitting if the DM doesn't actually take their role seriously. The story with the pot alone basically already shows the guy cannot take any criticism/Stress or take other peoples opinion into account, and that normally just means desaster in the long run if this happens during something social like a roleplay campaign.

[@eelshark12345]

Or C. Jimmy gets caught fudging his rolls and throws a tantrum when called out

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Yeah, similar to Woolie's assessment, Jimmy feels like a lost cause in this particular social situation. The problems probably aren't going to just stop.

[@tragediansdemise5033]

Okay seriously what was up with the DM there??? Like,, I'm sorry but as a DM you are the one who is supposed to know these things and prevent this EXACT thing from happening. I'm glad that he understood the issue in the end, but still, dude...

[@imjustdandy9799]

Also also pat, this guy wants to be the main character, being fantasy racist might make him more powerful.

[@SinnerBeta]

I was trying to be give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt because I used to be awkward too, came off as an asshole because I communicated badly or was nervous etc. But the moment I heard that class mirror shit I felt like that was just spite.

[@AncelDeLambert]

I had zero sympathy the moment I heard about the fanfic prose of other people's ACTIVE characters. That's frickin weird

[@d-w-b-c]

I wonder how much the sessions he DMs revolves around his NPC(s), because I can't imagine he'd make others the center of attention.

[@gomitax92]

There's tiers of jimmy being annoying or morally bankrupt and people go like. OOOH that Jimmy Jimmy Fuckin Jimmyyyyyy

[@kakoytazabar]

Jimbo.

[@FishSkeleton-]

El Capitano

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Those tiers are as follows, in order: Daisuke hearing shit about him and just thinking shit's wild Anya whispering his name in fear like he's Voldemort (or y'know, exactly what he already did to her) Swansea. Because fuck Jimmy.

[@ponimacaroni]

yimpy

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

"This guys an asshole, so im going to be an asshole in response, that'll make me the bigger man" - Patrick "babyhands" boivin

[@Diinify]

Tbf the fact *he* had to change his character is crazy

[@mattb6616]

@@Diinify he chose to change his character. he could have just kept playing his original concept but he said he didn't want to feel like "the other warlock". he could have also just asked Jimmy to change his character but apparently didn't.

[@galonEagle]

​@@mattb6616He shouldn't have to, Curly. The Jimmy's behavior appears to be evident to many more individuals beyond their circle, so I'm pretty sure the blow-up is gonna be all on Jimmy. Paradox of Tolerance rears it's ugly head once again.

[@mortthepirate6318]

Pat is literally doing all the things people say not to do to resolve a game group issue

[@Adaruan]

If you are in a situation like this, the DM already has fucked up big time and there is no winning

[@thesirenfox3017]

He has tried making things clear in session zero when that didn't work he went to the dm. That seems to be going nowhere, and at this point, the rest of the party is against confronting the issue, so if things are going to shit you might as well have fun.

[@peterwhite6415]

Bit of sidenote: Mono Class groups is honeslty good fun and can lead to some fun shenanigans, especially with Warlock's who can lead to a decent amount of roles and chaotic roleplay, especially if your DM can handle multi patron shenanigans. Granted this has to be discussed before game. But onto the subject: Jimmy is the type of player that needs a intervention or needs to get kicked out, but to solve the problem, it has to be done Out of Game and not through Ingame interactions.

[@iamnuff1992]

I honestly want to see a party of all low-magic rogues doing thieves guild shit in a city somewhere. Like, have the charisma con-artist guy, have the sneaky burglar guy creeping around on rooftops, have the Big Guy with the club. I'd probably need to houserule some stuff to make str-rogues viable, but it'd be good fun. Maybe... house-rule that you can sneak-attack with non-dex weapons now, but carrying weapons in the streets is forbidden by order of the local lord. Give the players a second to complain about being unarmed, and then follow up with "That doesn't mean you're gonna be unarmed, it means you need to be able to hide your shit under your shirt, or disguise it as a layman's tool. A dagger or sap can be hidden under your clothes, bigger stuff like hatchets or hammers would pass fine in the craftman's quarter where people work with tools like that every day. In the noble's quarter, it might get you stopped by the guard. Then you can have a low-level adventure involving luring people into alleyways and bashing them over the head with a shovel.

[@peterwhite6415]

​@@iamnuff1992 Plenty of brews that can help you on that. All Beneath the Yonder Seas and Streams (may have mispelled) has a Rogue subclass with a STR and Intimidation gimmick. In addition it allows a Rogue to use any Non-Heavy weapon and use their STR for Sneak Attacks, while also being able to use Sneak on Objects to damage them further (without requiring adv to trigger sneak). On another note: Check Brancalonia for low lvl and low-ish magic setting, its pretty good in terms setting vibe and would fit your idea, I think.

[@eppielicious]

PLEASE BE CAREFUL, WHAT IF JIMMY SEES THIS AND TRIES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY

[@BIGBLUBLUR]

"...I did it" -'Jimmy' after getting the party wiped and then falling off a cliff as recompense

[@Carlos-Mora]

Wait for all of this to be a Fight Club Situation. Jimmy is just Pat's Tyler Durden manifesting

[@hosvet_animation]

So Pat gets the opposite of the super ego? His manifestation is anxiety personified.

[@Carlos-Mora]

@hosvet_animation Crazy Talk Requiem

[@manpotion]

There are three legit disturbing parts to this story: 1) That Jimmy would try to model his own character off yours like the antagonist in Single White Female starts trying to steal the protagonist's life from her 2) That the DM is accommodating him and making you both change your characters to offset this instead of telling him to knock it off 3) That your wife hasn't stopped picking him up to drive his sorry ass to the DnD game Something's gotta give eventually.

[@kmoney890]

I would be surprised if this campaign lasts more than 2 months 😭

[@lawfulstupid3924]

Pretty long compared to online games.

[@mattb6616]

@@lawfulstupid3924 i ran a 1-20 game of d&d online over like four years. it's possible with good people

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Yeah, feels like the DM is going to just let Jimmy ruin it for everyone else. Unless something happens and Jimmy just ragequits or is actually kicked out, then it might be fine.

[@timlerch7425]

So, does Jimmy know about Pat's career? What's the percentage on someone sending this to him?

[@LessDevoid]

I bet you $5 Jimmy already knows exactly who Pat is, will watch this segment and use it as an excuse to become even worse.

[@altosforteaquax5083]

​@@LessDevoidWell jimmy will be somewhat justified since man baby Pat has decided to escalate the situation by being a passive aggressive coward instead of putting an end to it right there and then. This whole video is literally outlining his intent to make the game worse on purpose.

[@mugin92]

@@LessDevoid His character wanting to be an influencer makes me instantly think he's just jealous of Pat/Paige and it's bleeding over into his character bc he's creatively bankrupt.

[@genogamma13]

Why do I get the sinking feeling that Jimmy is suddenly next-next session going to ask the DM if he can respec to a cleric?

[@ice_queen9]

someone needs to accidentally cast fireball on jimmy's character

[@ice_queen9]

glad to hear pat already had this idea

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Someone needs to accidentally cast "Siting Jimmy down and talking like adults"

[@benhramiak8781]

someone get the cleric of the party to keep failing his medicine checks on purpose like that one au comic

[@ipeconick]

I feel so bad when people have bad first experience with RPGs... Its so much fun but requires so much time that when someone ruins it for a newcomer it's just the worse because that could make that person never wanna play again.

[@Lios959]

I'm not sure if this ever happened, but it seems like it didn't. And I doubt it'll do any good. But can I advocate for you talking to Jimmy as respectfully as possible outlining why his actions were hurtful, selfish, and disrespectful. Like I get he's a known problem in the community, but I feel like this is a conversation that should be attempted by you as you seem to be the adult in this situation. Also who knows. You might help him grow as a person. Also I get he's a problem, but the chaning racism thing seems kinda extra, and mean spirited, and will probably just contribute to this campaign being a pain to get through.

[@The5lacker]

Directness is generally infinitely more effective than just passive-aggressively annoying someone for sure. But if you've already tried directness... nothing wrong with amusing yourself while you're stuck in the situation.

[@nekky9534]

A good jimmy should be called a jimbo

[@thesirenfox3017]

Isn't good jimmy just timmy?

[@krodmandoon3479]

​@@thesirenfox3017Bimmy

[@Confussed-Oddish]

>Called fireball >Is a cube DnD at it's finest.

[@CPUpwner]

It's actually Pat at his finest, since he's mistaken. Fireball *is* a 20-foot radius sphere. Aka, a ball.

[@ffffffffROTHY]

It's the Tri-Beam all over again.

[@fluidthought42]

​@@CPUpwnerDepends on what you're playing on. If you're playing on graph paper, functionally that shit is a cube

[@The5lacker]

@@fluidthought42 Well, cube with the edges sanded off.

[@mattb6616]

@@fluidthought42 it depends on what edition of the game you're playing.

[@samazam4221]

This situation perfectly explains why without the crippling injury, we wouldve hate Curly almost just as much as Jimmy. That DM is half the reason all that shit happens.

[@Adaruan]

Chances are the Jimmy character actually has some reasons for why he is that way (because nobody chooses to be that way, it has nothing but downsides), while the DM is just a lazy selfish asshole who avoids conflict because it takes energy and isn't pleasant.

[@SoraMotto]

What if Jimmy doesnt watch Pat's stuff but he sure does love WoolieVS

[@mattb6616]

many such cases

[@princevegeta699]

I think we've officially found the male equivalent of a Karen lmao

[@vcom741]

Lets not lol. Jim is way too standard a name to kill like the internet did with Karen

[@Rixstarian]

​@@vcom741 That is of no comfort to the legit nice women named Karen.

[@FishSkeleton-]

​@Rixstarian The name has nosedived in popularity in recent years, seemingly in response to it being used as slang. That could be taken as the name being killed in terms of likability.

[@Rixstarian]

​@@FishSkeleton- I'm aware. There was a graph where babies being named Karen just stopped dead in the water. I'm just speaking sympathetically for my sweet as a kitten classmate who's had to suffer these jokes.

[@galonEagle]

...fkn Jimmys

[@blackmagemasher4031]

taking a small break at 10 minutes cause i am starting to get pissed

[@goldenboy9748]

Pat found a cringe unicorn and I’m glad he toughed it out to bring us this story.

[@h.a.b1125]

All I can think about, while Pat is ranting about this story, is the situation that Mandalore went through with Dusty.

[@furfixer]

will never look at wooden spoons the same way ever again

[@austinwebster5813]

"You can spank my ass but you gotta make me Macncheese afterwards" 🤣🤣🤣

[@armchairmaster]

Serious question: What is actually stopping Pat and Paige from either A. Kicking Jimmy out of the group, or B. Leaving and finding another group?

[@BIGBLUBLUR]

For A, The bit at 20:57 explains it. For B, I dunno, but Pat did explain in a previous video about the subject that getting into D&D is hard for him, so the stars kinda aligned for this one

[@LieseFury]

i think he mentioned before that this group is mostly paige's friends, so there's some degree of social pressure to not ragequit.

[@armchairmaster]

Well, in that case maybe Pat can't force them out. BUT, if their statsheet mysteriously went up in flames....

[@syrushbluhr]

Pat dont want to blow out this 1st attempt and also mostly because Paige is familiar with this group of friends. So they dont want to be forced to start over while they have to take care of their personal lifes and family

[@TenkDD]

Pat's ego

[@blackmantis1511]

Just a couple notes about the telepathy thing Pat mentioned, for anyone who needs it including Pat. The ability only works within 30 feet, so there is no reason another character can’t just talk to the npc and interrupt the telepathic conversation, especially if they don’t know it’s happening.

[@xenodile]

See writing fanfic for what your tabletop character did in their backstory, while other things were going on, etc. isn't inherently a problem. It's when you start posting it in the table's group chat with the expectation that everyone will read and adhere to it that things become a problem. Putting effort into fleshing out your character can make for a richer, more enjoyable experience but you can't do that by making the entire campaign about you personally and making the rest of the players at the table set dressing.

[@veracity-]

How are you an adult and not embarrassed that you stormed out of the room during DnD? 😭

[@God_gundam36]

Did pat encounter dusty?

[@trashmammal5420]

Now that's a legend i hadn't heard of in a while

[@alexanderjamesaustin]

I can't wait for more wild DnD tales from pat

[@elmilkmann]

Yeah it’s a shame his experience happens to have this negative issue going along with it, but the stories are going to be great 😂

[@Foostini]

Your DM has been accommodating of the change and y'all seem to be friends so I don't wanna be too harsh but it's great that he's being accommodating now but knowningly letting this slide for multiple sessions after your one specific wish being you don't want to dupe classes, which I can only assume is out of a desire to not deal with Jimmy, is horrible and crazy disrespectful. Again, 10/10 pivot into making it work but damn. If Jimmy is such a known quantity in the area then he shouldn't have been allowed into the game to begin with.

[@Nktalloth]

Agreed. The DM choosing to make Pat change his whole character instead of talking to Jimmy shows a lot of inexperience and disrespect. So far Jimmy's not the worst That Guy, but these things have to be dealt with early, otherwise the That Guy will take this as tacit approval of their behavior and will continue to escalate. I don't really approve of changing to cleric in order to not heal another character either since that will also only escalate the behavior, but Pat has the excuse of being new at least.

[@user-ue8il6jx3b]

​@@Nktallothalso he did make an in game lore reason for it so if jimmy becomes less of a shithead pats character could experice some character growth and be less racist or he could begrudgingly heal him during a critical moment just to talk shit about the fey being useless and needing healing. All in all a very petty way to handle it but also pat is still trying to get some fun out of the experience and has already been overly accommodating to a guy who's chose to be a complete fucking dick. A dick who they are going out of their way to pick up and take to the sessions mind you

[@hosvet_animation]

@@Nktalloth In Pat's defense no one else in the group is helping him or Paige, so his bad behavior is from having no other outlets or alternatives.

[@The1Goby]

It's nice to see that Pat isn’t letting this bad luck sour his opinion on DnD as a whole.

[@bej4987]

That game is cooked

[@Rixstarian]

Paige is wildly forgiving & tolerant of Jimmy. She keeps wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@Quikanims]

Paige has to believe our worst moments don't make us monsters.

[@hyperionman420]

Pat & Paige brought up MORE, arguably WORSE Jimmy moments on their grinch stream and all I'll say is I'd play a hundred campaigns with the Pats of the world before a group that allows Jimmys to run wild

[@Rixstarian]

@@hyperionman420 I was there for the stories. He's a true Stinkmeiner.

[@PregnantAdamSandler]

I do feel like Pat is playing with fire a bit with that fae racism

[@laggy3099]

It wouldn't be Pat if he didn't!

[@heymay724]

fae in dnd are genuinely awful they deserve it

[@whiteblacklight9603]

Pat running into THAT GUY and feeling justified into becoming another, much pettier and babylike THAT GUY is the Pattest thing to do. Especially since iirc changelings in 5e are shapeshifters so Pat can only know Jimmy's influencer warlock bard is one through metagaming.

[@carbide4458]

As much as its tempting to cast shade at "Jimmy," the DM should've killed this nonsense immediately

[@superbro6413]

It *cannot* be understated how much of a Curly the DM is in this situation. Much of these issues could of been prevented if the DM took any kind of action to stop Jimmy from Jimmy-ing, especially considering that the DM *knew* what Jimmy was up to. Curly-ass DM lol

[@deadflamesables]

As funny as this is to hear Pat messing with a Jimmy, it is wholly a failure on the DM by not handling the situation by either removing the problem player or standing by the clear boundaries Pat had set prior. The fact that a player feels they need to handle the problem player themselves shows that the DM did not do their job here. It sounds like the community knows about Jimmy, so I doubt anyone would think twice when they heard.

[@impatientinc.9332]

I think I'm a chill guy, but if I saw this at the table, I'd say something. Being the only healer and not healing one guy will probably make that guy leave anyway though.

[@kosm999]

Sounds like a serious case of Main Character syndrome

[@BIGBLUBLUR]

I feel for the DM, honestly. Not saying he shouldn't put his foot down, not saying he isn't limp wristed, but from one "Curly" to another... I get it. Hopefully he finds a way to navigate this and any future issues that may spring up because of this dude, before things end up being too late to fix

[@shadowrobot7708]

Jimmy needs to go. If he doesn’t just leave. This shouldn't be your first experience with dnd. Hell it shouldn’t be an experience you had. This was my reaction at like 7 minutes in

[@AncelDeLambert]

Jimmy ABSOLUTELY will leave soon enough. He'll complain to DM about the other characters not doing something for him, DM will be sick of him, say no, and that'll be it

[@FlowWolf7]

I have a feeling this will be more entertaining in the future than the floor pie incident

[@ipeconick]

I don't know who at the table is jimmy's friend but it's time to pull then to the side and talk about some cuts in the campain

[@drossvids]

I was afraid of this, but its funny that Jimmy is now a term for ...well .." that guy, you know the guy, THAT guy, the guy that ruins things".