Arch Enemy “Deceiver, Deceiver” | Aussie Metal Heads Reaction

Nath & Johnny react to the new single from Arch Enemy: “Deceiver, Deceiver”
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[@nathandjohnny]

Things we learned on this reaction: Alissa is a new(er) vocalist and is only 36 haha so that explains why she seems younger than Angela! Thanks for the info everyone.

[@Omertahun]

Im no fan of Arch Enemy but they are a bit too fundamental for you guys not knowing them quite at all

[@miss5sos192]

Ur welcomee

[@nathandjohnny]

@@Omertahun Johnny knows them, just doesn’t listen to them enough to keep up with member changes

[@tubelious]

Yeah AE is great, one of the creators of the legandary Gothenburg sound along with In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility, Amon Amarth, Hypocrisy, Soilwork etc. Btw you should definitely check out the new Carcass album!

[@gordrock]

I’m glad I noticed this before I rage posted and suggested that member Inane who played at Goredofest should have already known!

[@Pancorania]

Bit of info: when Arch Enemy started they did have a male front man, but I don't think he lasted long - Angela Gossaw stepped in which is when they became really popular, I'd really recommend Nemesis and Dead Eyes See No Future from that era! About 5/10 years ago Alissa (this vocalist) stepped in and Angela became the band's manager. This is by far my favourite of their new songs I've heard, but Reason to Believe is another good one, and does have some cleans in (I believe it might be their only song with lead cleans, but not certain). Hope you enjoy this incredible band!!

[@avagyhas]

Reason to Believe, yes, yes, yes!!!!

[@itspatrickwayne]

And Alissa use to front The Agonist before leaving the band to join Arch Enemy when Angela stepped down.

[@christerolausson2702]

@@itspatrickwayne I believe Alissa was actually fired from The Agonist?

[@darrenaurisch2707]

@@christerolausson2702 why would anyone fire her??..crazy!..such a talent and hard worker!

[@christerolausson2702]

@@darrenaurisch2707 I know! But remember something Alissa wrote about “staring into the wall for a week” after being fired.

[@marcuskarlsson]

Singers in Arch Enemy: Johan Liiva 1995-2000, 3 albums Angela Gossow 2001-2014, 6 albums Alissa White Gluz 2014-, 2 albums so far and a 3rd coming soon.

[@ZachComa]

And they occasionally tour with Johan under the name Black Earth with songs from his era with Chris Ammott on lead.

[@Commandercolt44]

“Ya girl’s got a rig, ya see them abs!?” I lol’d

[@davidzeager262]

Alissa's cleans are epic, too. Check out her guest appearances on Kamelot as well as old The Agonist.

[@rickardengstrom2266]

Arch Enemy - Reason to believe There you have it, Alissa with cleans And it's a great "ballady" song Greetings from "up above"

[@SquatchViking]

On the topic of where they're from, I beliiieeeve they were founded in Sweden, but their members were from all over the place. Angela Gossow (former vocalist/current band manager) is from Germany, while Alissa White-Gluz (current vocalist) is actually from Canada.. Alissa is also in a relationship with Doyle from the Misfits, so, do with that info what you will lol

[@mikeh6286]

Jeff, lead guitarist for 7 years is from Seattle.

[@SquatchViking]

@@mikeh6286 oh rad! I never knew lol

[@chadrandazzo2305]

Massive fan. Alissa is an amazing screamer!

[@papaherf7349]

Check out “the world is yours”. Cleans in that song.✌️

[@Allforone87]

Top 3 arch enemy Nemesis My Apocalypse Carry the cross Yeah they’re all from the same album, so what 😁 Also this chick has only been there for the last 2 albums I believe. Angela Gossow was the singer before that for the bulk of their career

[@shannameadows5406]

Arch Enemy is amazing!!! I'm so glad you guys reviewed them. You're faces are so funny. You guys rock my socks off!!! So much love to you 4eva! 💋💋❤️❤️❤️

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

Handshake with Hell, Nemesis ( Waken 2016), The World Is Yours.

[@christianticehurst9107]

This song kicks a$$

[@ncdmedia.online]

Reason to believe by Arch Enemy for clean vocals guys.An immense song,kick fucking ass. Top songs; Avalanche, The world is yours and Dreams of retribution.

[@duncanwall6039]

ahh havnt listened to Arch Enemy in a long time! First gig I ever went to when I was like 14 or 15 was a metal tour with Machinehead, Trvium, Arch Enemy and Dragonforce. Baptism of fucking fire haha

[@jeffwhitteberry5725]

Listen to "Reason to Believe" lots of excellent cleans as well

[@ulrikahellberg1976]

Arch Enemy is from my small Swedish hometown Halmstad (as well as Roxette), started by my old friend Mike Amott. They had annoyingly rehearsal room next to mine. Before Alissa they had Angela as vocaalist. She is niwadays the manager of the bamd

[@andrewjoel]

She’s actually the second female singer. The first was Angela Gossow. Angela is now the bands manager. Alyssa has only been in the band a few years now

[@mikeh6286]

Alissa 8, Angela 13. She's getting up there.

[@slaycorpse]

I'm sure someone has mentioned it already, but this girl has only been in the band for a few years. Before her was Angela Gossow, and she was with the band for quite a long time. Before Angela joined, i believe it was the bassist who also did vocals. Alissa is Canadian too 🤘🤘

[@ogulcancoskunsk603]

For clean vocals - Kamelot - Liar Liar feat. Alissa

[@PamelaAndrea1989]

She is not that old. She is 36 I think🤔 Did you guys know Alissa is a vegan? She is fit👌 and she is current together with the guitarist of the Misfits. Doyle Wolfgang von Frankenstein. I'm a big Arch Enemy fan. I first saw them in 2006. With their former singer Angela. She is brutal. The first singer it's a long time ago. Consider that Angela was at least 10years front woman of the band. The new singer... I was not a big fan at the beginning. She has grown on me. This song is much better than the songs on the last album. I was a little bit lost when that came out. It just didn't do it for me. This song is a banger🤘btw they are from Sweden. In Europe we just have some amazing metalbands. Alissa is from America.

[@thiswilldude]

Great reaction video. You guys seem very cool and I will check you out more. That song murdered me and brought me back to life!

[@mads_._]

"If Johnny is saying 'back in the day' it's pre-" I WANTED YOU TO SAY PREHISTORIC 😭

[@nathandjohnny]

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT!

[@Hellknight27]

Definitely recommend doing the video for 'Kamelot - Liar Liar' for a mix of her clean and harsh vocals (she pretty much only does harsh vocals for Arch Enemy). For Arch Enemy official music videos with Alissa 'War Eternal', 'The World Is Yours', 'The Eagle Flies Alone'. Also, we have Timezone over here across the ditch :)

[@mikeh6286]

Thank you gentlemen. That was great. Horns up🤘. Johan (male) was their first vocalist 1996-2000, then Angela (the godmother of scream, one of the pioneers and inspiration to current vocalist) 2000-2013, and now Alissa 2013-. Yeah she is younger. Born in 1986 I believe. The rest of the band members are around 50yo. Jeff Loomis, the blonde shred extraudinaire, just turned 50 this month. Arch is one of those bands where the obscure songs really stand out as more memorable and a greater rollercoaster ride. So it realy pays off to stray from the singles a bit and check out the other songs. My top three (very hard task) would (today) be: 1. Skeleton Dance, 2. Enemy Within, 3. Cult Of Chaos. But there are just so many more. I didn't really understand Arch until I began using good headphones.

[@terrycoyne2936]

Have listened to them a bit my apocalypse was the first song I heard then skeleton dance. Epic songs. This was fantastic!

[@pinkfluffypandicornblub2706]

skeleton dance is super underrated :)

[@angel0fdeath667]

Saw them live in Perth, Alissa just absolutely commands the stage. My top 3, nemesis, eagle flies alone and the watcher!

[@lordwarden71110]

THIS IS A MUST!!! Götterdämmerung by Zeal & Ardor

[@billszozda4448]

Fuck yes! Heard it for the first time the other day and was like holy shit this is amazing

[@sirakoth]

If you want to listen to Arch Enemy with mostly clean vocals, then "Reason To Believe" song is what you are looking for. I suppose my top 3 are "The Eagle Flies Alone", "Nemesis" Wacken 2016 live version and "The World Is Yours", also older music with Angela is very good.

[@Lordgenome944]

Top 3 concerts I've ever been to, right before the pandemic bullshit, was Arch Enemy with Amon Amarth (and At the Gates and Grand Magus), they're amazing live.

[@XavierBlack1]

Yes, Alissa is quite the looker. But she's got some incredible growls and cleans.

[@christofferranset5253]

Seen them live twice. Highly recommended! She has such an insane stage presence.

[@mikeh6286]

She gets better every year too. Listen to the Oberhausen 2019 vocals. She's a beast compared to the earlier days.

[@pinkfluffypandicornblub2706]

Arch Enemy is actually one of the first Metal bands I ever listened to and still is one of my very favourites :) Songs to check out: Blood On Your Hands (I'd recommend the live version from Japan (Official DVD Video) a must see on how to open a show Ravenous Nemesis War Eternal We Will Rise Savage Messiah Dead Bury Their Dead ... well they basically don't have any bad songs..

[@mikeh6286]

Well said!🤘 I've also asked myself, which song is bad? Hmm...

[@miss5sos192]

u actually sound like two villians like when nath put on the viliian voice and johnny laughs all deep but its still cute. u two are so funny and WANGIE WANGIE

[@thancrow]

You want to hear Reason to Believe To hear clean and growl.

[@Gobbi26]

That's the 1st of the new songs for me, and I must say that it's awesome. Alissa was the frontwoman for the band The Agonist, where she did a mix of harsh and clean vocals...you should check them out.

[@hort3348]

I feel like her vocals improve every album

[@mikeh6286]

Btw, Alissa doesn't do her deepest vocals on the albums. She saves that for the live shows. Here's a little taste:

[@mikeh6286]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/al6vk4mQr6qKaJYm14s

[@mikeh6286]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXTahXuChJVqqqcm14s

[@heritageturns]

Fantastic, had a great time watching this.

[@jamesjackson1033]

How old are Johnny and Nathan? 15 years ago in Metal Band? They would have to be in 40s. Right? Makes me feel better about being in my late 40s and still loving Metal music 🤘🏾

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

Alissa is the greatest stage presence in music today. She has brought Arch Enemy to the top of the metal world. She can growl and sing clean vocals better than anyone!

[@christerolausson2702]

Great reaction! Been waiting a long time for new AE stuff…

[@mikeh6286]

That "one more time" bit cracked me up. Subbed!

[@nathandjohnny]

🤣🙏🏽

[@darrenaurisch2707]

Great review...from a fellow Aussie...love AE from Angela to Alissa....I know everyone has their Preference... but what a total Epic carring on as a performer to carty the band forward!!!❤....Right there with you Johnny...not only kick arse voice...talent & performance ...she has amazing abs!!!!... she worked fucking hard to get them!!...as anyone who has tried to get them....it is just about impossible unless you cut just about all carbs and work like fuck at a gym and survive on a lettuce leaf diet with supplements to get them!!....you show them offf girl!!... coz I fully know how hard you worked to get them!!.. hail you....and anyone that recognises that!!

[@coombes40]

BANGER!

[@nathanhunt1649]

Lads!!! Check out Metal Allegiance doing We Rock for some Alyssa clean vocals 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@dorisg.3]

Alissa It's really good, but I'm a big fan of Angela Gussow, she was a beast at the microphone 🙌🙌💪💥🤘🤘 But it's good not all are the same

[@jamesmusisca7547]

this band kicks your face in

[@wmxx2000]

Alissa only has one song with clean vocals in Arch Enemy "Reason to Believe." If you want to check out her first AE album War Eternal I can recommend it. That album kicked my ass when it came out.

[@Mr.Von.Chrille]

This was a great talk about Arch Enemy and the new Video.! Alissa is a great singer and do it so wild and like a Wild Animal in the Video with that Fire and Attiude like no wann else in the Heavy Metal World.!!! She is number 1 Alissa White-Gluz for me.!

[@cleonfernandes8490]

You should react to their other songs like, (War Eternal, Nemises, and World is Yours)

[@gosiaszczesniak1867]

Alissa does clean vocals on Kamelot's song Liar Liar, you should react to it

[@brothernemiel6465]

AE is one of my favorite bands, they are so good live. My top 3 are "Bloodstained Cross" "Under Black Flags We March" and "My Apocalypse"

[@PamelaAndrea1989]

My top 3 is exact the same👌🤘

[@terrycoyne2936]

My apocalypse was the first song I heard. So good!

[@terryosborne272]

Just pure Thrash Metal at its best simple.

[@koenv306]

Holy shit that was so much better than I expected! Thanks for checking this one out guys

[@peterbeveridge91]

Intencity before the movies. Classic first date destroyer

[@nathandjohnny]

Hahahaha yes

[@Serasu33]

She was a guest on a few Kamelot songs and also did a cover of Demons are a Girls Best Friend with Powerwolf. Liar Liar by Kamelot has her doing some clean vocals and her clean vocals are absolutely insane too. She was also is in a song with Carnifex called No Light Shall Save us that has a pretty awesome video for it, and that is a super badass song if you haven't heard it yet.

[@carlwest198]

You should check out The Eagle Flies Alone… One of my all time favorites by them.

[@tapanim6576]

Ok, the new single/video from Battle Beast is out today. The song is Master Of Illusion kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKSvhKyKer2Zeas. Battle Beast is a heavy/power metal band from Finland. The band and song is brilliant.

[@K1NGD0M]

Johnny before every video: Is this thing on? 😂

[@miss5sos192]

SHE IS 36 SHE AINT OLD😂😂also yes timezone is in other countries but not where i am. one thing u do have that i like is caramel koalas my stepbrother sends them over and violet crumbles and something else oh yeah the bite size ones of the bar and then there is a chocolate marshmallow thing ye all have, sorry for the irish slang

[@nathandjohnny]

Caramello Koala rules! Yeah we didn’t realise she was the newer vocalist.

[@miss5sos192]

@@nathandjohnny yes they do thats the only reason i wanna move back there jk😂

[@andrewjoel]

She does cleans in her old band The Agonist

[@Dann66123]

#PUREFUCKINGMETAL

[@archiviewer92]

Bro’s had no idea your super local to me. Central coast rep 🙌🏻

[@archiviewer92]

Plus arch enemy started with male vocalist then soon after Angela gossow joined them and was their vocalist for majority of the bands life (would have been the vocalist to the song you covered back in the day). But the current vocalist is Alissa White-gluz who joined them in 2014 and has done a incredible job of keeping the band alive and not changing its dna unlike other bands that change vocalists (northlane 🥺)

[@nathandjohnny]

You know it!

[@soderlund3610]

There is a lot of metal in the swedish water

[@ManLikeBeas]

Man, haven't listened to Arch Enemy for a good few years now. Loved this song! Great video, boys \m/

[@denisvalcke5413]

Brutal female vocalist from an "older" band -> listen to Walls of Jericho guys 🤘

[@ricks.2264]

You guys have to check out these two albums by The Agonist: Lullibies for dormant minds 2009, Prisoners 2012. Those two albums are brilliant from start to finish. Alissa is ridiculously talented 🤘🏻

[@user-xu2oo8jc4n]

damn man 🔥🤘

[@Kotsoros37]

What an awesome track! great reaction as usual guys; on another not When Stars Collide by Obscura is a cool new track to check out from an older band making some of their best music now, definitely worth a check out!

[@XavierBlack1]

I gotta say though, boys, if you want animated front women you have to react to Nightwish and Amaranthe.

[@adamellis8069]

Loving the t-shirts. For a good “woah oh”, listen to Party in my Head by Pain 🤘😁

[@silverwhisper86]

Giving off some Unearth meets Darkest Hour vibes

[@nathandjohnny]

Ooohhhh yeah

[@jamesmusisca7547]

80's music on steroids

[@jimthar17]

If you like an animated female metal singer check out Frozen Crown's videos. Giada their singer is very animated with her arms.

[@fiend1385]

i love the punk influence

[@dr3vn1y_Ukr]

As for me Angela sounded better than Alissa 🤘

[@zullywhite9049]

Agree

[@mikeh6286]

Did you guys know Angela picked Alissa as her successor already back in 2007. Also her vocals are still evolving, getting better every year. 🤘😈

[@pritikapoor1030]

if you like heavy metal girls with brutal asf vocals, check out cerebral bore, with som as frontwomen. metal as shit 🤘🏽

[@LaurenRoseDeeley]

You guys need to get on kalle koschinsky And Eskimo callboy - Castrop X Spandau 😁

[@BigRich81UK]

Fuck yeah 🤘❤

[@cooltechnician]

They are from Sweden ,, started in 1995 and had ámale vocalist,, Johan Liiva , after some years they got a lady on board German Angela Gossow who was pretty brutal, only harsh vocals, she gave her place to Canadian Alissa who’s this lady you are seeing here, she’s like 36 years old . I used to be fan of their music with Angela, couldn’t stand alissas simple growl neither her stage presence, the only right thing they did for me was to introduce me to Jinjer ,, cause Jinjer were their opening band in the European tour back in 2017-18. Needless to say that Jinjer was way more impressive and better stage presence in every way. Not convinced about AEs innovation in Metal, they are just continuing with their same riffs so their music is just not appealing to me at all, but they have a good fan base all over the world and I respect that, If you want to check out a new band with a better front person and better riffs check out Akiavel from France, their song Kind Of Requiem, thank me later

[@mikeh6286]

I tried many times to actually finish listening to a single jinjer song, and after about 3 years and 10 times I managed to do it with that vortex song. Progress. Who knows what the future will bring. I like the heavy stuff, but those sassy tati cleans immediately kill my flow.

[@maxviking3210]

🇸🇪❤️🤘🏼

[@lochlanevans8377]

Fucking oath had no idea you lads were from the newy/cc area 👌

[@nathandjohnny]

Represent!

[@jillians1138]

Johnny may not be fully professional but he hella hot

[@kindercolin]

Again not my cup of tea but I can be entertained by it... unlike that camomille of a olivia rodrigo's song! Ommyworld you guys ruined my day with that thing! Aussie Metal rocks by the way... thank you for letting me discovering this! Less thankful for... you know what!! 😎

[@ln8300]

Everybody talks about the female singer. Alissa is sexy as fuck, we can say that. She s got a great growl (even though Tati from jinjer is superior on that side) and live she can put on a show but the rest of the band is formed my excellent musicians, i mean ammott and erlandsson have previously worked in carcass (one of the BEST in death metal),not to mention sharlee d Angelo (mercyful fate ) and loomis (one of the BEST guitarists around)

[@mikeh6286]

Agree on everything except Tati. Her growls are good but those sassy cleans, sorry. I also heard rumor of autotune. There's none of that in Arch at least.

[@ln8300]

@@mikeh6286 never heard those rumours

[@mikeh6286]

@@ln8300 I don't know much because as I said, I don't follow jinjer. Just saw a couple on youtube talking about it, and sounding sure about it. I asked them for more info. Could be bs.

[@braddowdell88]

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[@joshwakem3447]

Just listen to Alissa when she was in the Agonist and you will hear majestic cleans and dynamic screams. Overall a better vocalist then Courtney imo. It’s just under-utilised in Arch Enemy because it’s predominantly heavy screams.

[@riblo72]

The problem about Arch Enemy is they keep making the same old song since 20 years They hired Alyssa that is really good at alternating growl and clean voices and they use just her growl They hired Jefff Loomis at the guitar that can write amazing masterpieces (listen all Nevermore records and his solo albums) and still use him for 30 seconds solos They are just a waste of talented musicians

[@jamesmusisca7547]

i think she's 37 take good care of herself

[@jtaboureau]

Angela still the best and first female to growl and a huge inspiration for current metal band like jinjer or tatyana today!

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

She's done dude Alissa is wayyyyy better - she does awesome cleans as well.

[@jtaboureau]

Yeah but Angela is the manager of the group and a friend of Alissa so she maybe help her a lot with her vocal !;)

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

She's a lousy manager as well. I manage them - they open for nobody!

[@larsm.4400]

I miss Angela. Ugh.

[@Psychosapiens]

everyone who pause this song in the middle to make comments deserve dislike if video. +1 dislike from me sorry

[@nathandjohnny]

There’s a few reasons we do it: firstly, to avoid copyright. Secondly, to limit talking over the song. Thirdly, we fell most people coming to watch a reaction have already listened to the song or watched the clip, they’re here to listen to us break the song down and to have some laughs. Pausing the song means we don’t forget any of the points we were going to make, throw a few puns in and it separates us from all of the other channels. Thanks for watching

[@Psychosapiens]

@@nathandjohnny and thanks for explaining that. \m/

[@thequatropus]

Not watching this one. As much as I would like to give it a listen, I still hold to the fact that the situation with the photographer was them being absolute shitheads to him.

[@rockninja10002]

Wow I just read about that it was a pretty shitty move by them & their management but oddly enough it's not the first time they have done that they also did it in 2010 when Angela was still in the band banned someone from their shows

[@nathandjohnny]

We don’t know anything about that, but watching this helps us, not them haha

[@thequatropus]

@@nathandjohnny fair assessment

[@mikeh6286]

I read the story. An amateur photographer, and professional lawyer, sent many long exhausting emails with unusual requests. The picture he was claiming pay for had not been watermarked and had been spread deliberately. It's basically like a hunter laying a trap. I've lived in Germany for many years and the overcomplicated law there is often used as a threat and a way to claim money. Many fraudulent claims are attempted. Angela obviously saw the unprofessionalism. Had the photographer acted professionally: 1. He would have watermarked. 2. He would have asked for the picture to not be used in big writing. And then list options to buy the rights to it. He's just an amateur exploiting loopholes in the legal system. In the end the picture was never used. Everyone's happy. I hear he snuck into a concert dispite the ban.

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

She's 37.