Archery | Holding: From Transfer to Expansion

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Good over-all review on the step of “holding” Quick thought: Don’t actually stop moving during “holding” it is more of a metaphorical step to calm down as you outlined but you don’t want to lose your momentum and tension you built up leading to that step. Simply slowing down to the point of almost stopping is optimal. I say “holding” in quotations on purpose. It’s not meant to actually stop moving (physically) and wait. But mentally you will stop everything, calm down and then execute. Good review on the step. I hadn’t seen the water bottle before and I like the demonstration of the Coach Leeism for sure.

[@NUSensei]

I knew you were going to cover the Chair one, so I guessed that you might not cover the Water Bottle :)

[@aqeel77za]

Glad to see that Jake Kaminski is also watching NU Sensei. Love both channels to bits.

[@trevensjosyabhatla9425]

Same thing dude

[@davijones2369]

The holding cycle is such a neat feeling, centering and feeling your body is very much about the experience and a brief moment of reflection, in a small small moment but it is so much in that moment. Love it personally.

[@ThirdLawPair]

One thing I appreciate about the way you teach archery is that you explain the tradeoffs and compromises. So many Olympic style coaches teach one way as the gospel truth. Whereas so many traditional archers are so open-minded about all the various ways to shoot a traditional bow that they don't speak in specifics about the tradeoffs of each option. I would love to see you do a form series on traditional archery. You would provide a great balance of rigor and open-mindedness that is much needed in the traditional archery community.

[@KellerDidThat]

Sensei, I want to thank you for your guidance on so many subjects! Please don't ever stop doing what you're doing for all of us!

[@tacoma1309]

It is how you accurately break down the drawing process which expands a focus on my weak area--TP: can't come to full draw, snap shooting w/out focused aiming, etc. I found this after using the remedial approach of 6 arrows up close, move target back, etc. And also the one about blind bale shooting to" learn the feel" (you and Al Henderson's Peak Performance Archery). So the 'pause' after full draw, and the toe count gives me a solid blue print to follow...Thanks very much!!!

[@lucydad100]

Extremely helpful, much thanks! Adding transfer to hold has really helped my groups. The mental shift focus point is very valid, especially for this older archer.

[@gizmonomono]

I think this is the essence of any style of archery. Especially when you practice. I imagine with time that hold period gets shorter, as correct form is drilled into you with this practice.

[@Patrizioquattromori]

Great tutorial from Nu sensei. I implemented holding from my first shoot (2 months ago), , helped by my coach. Thank you for very clear explanation.

[@steviefras]

Very interesting video. The section near the end where you talk about alignment was most helpful. As a new archer this is something my coach has been pushing me to understand. You have filled some blanks for me there.

[@clear_image_photos5477]

I think Nu made this video to show everybody his favorite blue band.

[@firehellrain]

I'll definitelly try this during my bow practice today! Good explanation :D

[@robymontone86]

Fantastic video! I was looking for an explanation of this archery aspect. Thanks a lot

[@unocoltrane2804]

What is the expansion part? Does it have to do with preparing to release? I've been unintentionally plucking the string on a lot of my releases today, and I had a hard time figuring that out for some reason. Transfer makes sense, and I definitely feel like I messed that up a lot today. I also think I now understand target panic from this video.

[@MONKLJ]

Like the water in the bottle, it's all a fluid motion, great explanation, my holding point is about half your time, seems to work for me, any longer I start thinking too much, I guess my focus time, of holding is just a little more acute, at least for my comfort. Thanks very much for this video

[@uncleremus5046]

Great Tutorial!

[@trangbachhai3881]

Great explanation of the Transfer, Please make more video about KSL Shot Cycle :x

[@bambuwuzled]

I like the fact that you're using the "Nu" water bottle, I also have those

[@vepristhorn8278]

I primarily shoot barebow recurve instinctive and I put in a holding step to let my form settle and my subconsouce evaluate the shot, it helped me significantly and gives me the time to properly draw the mental line of my shot

[@salimr4718]

What is the difference between expansion and transfer? Are they not both using the back muscles? And which comes first?

[@tybowhunter8987]

What would you suggest for fletchings. I currently shoot using 3 fletch blazers. I am looking into going with 4 fletch and maybe put an offset on it. Been trying to look into what benefits can be gained from each. For with a broadhead and just field tips. I use flying arrow archery toxic broad heads 125 grain. It is a 1 inch in diameter round broadhead. Not sure what might help control it better without sacrificing to much speed.

[@BlasterKotakatik]

I like to call holding a Braced Position as holding tends to be close to the meaning of stopping the motion but you're not actually stopping the movement physically just slowing it down.

[@-fazik-3713]

Finally a video! :D

[@jonoedwards4195]

Great Show! Beauty Nu.

[@checkmate058]

Do you think olympic archery will open new divisions for arrow guideing and draw locking mechnisms of the type jeorg made like they did for quick release aids and compound bows? Or do you think archery federation will hold that archery has to held under draw weight?

[@NUSensei]

It won't happen. Those kinds of bows don't really...exist. Apart from the backyard projects that Joerg produced, they don't exist beyond a few samples that he and maybe others have made. That's hardly the basis for an Olympic event.

[@checkmate058]

@@NUSensei You are right as it stands now. It is just one backyard project. Adbittedly my question was poorly framed. Let me try again. Do you think WAF or IFA or other big offical archery orgonizations are open to new styles / devices in archery?

[@NUSensei]

@@checkmate058 What new devices and styles, specifically?

[@checkmate058]

@@NUSensei It was more a general question on the willingless to change the orgonizations are. Maybe crossbows?

[@NUSensei]

​@@checkmate058 Crossbows aren't considered "archery" by definition, and are under a different organisation. It's effectively a different sport altogether.

[@trevensjosyabhatla9425]

What was that ghost noise in the background at 3:10

[@vinny142]

Question: There is/was a beardy "one with nature, don't f*ck with me because I can skin a goat without touching it" guy on youtube who shoots ye oldy longbow/warbow/big-f*cking-bow/treetrunk-with-a-string-on-it and he used to go on about how he did exercises tot compensate difference in muscle growth between his right arm and his left. Is that thing for competition shooters too, even when using compound bows and gizmos designed to make drawing a bow easier?

[@toneaddict]

Do you transfer and expand in trad archery ?

[@NUSensei]

The steps are transferable (heh). Trad archery can be more flexible and freeform depending on the style you practice. There will always be an expansion step, though the transfer may not be done as clearly. If you do implement it, you will likely find more control of the shot process.

[@permadynamicsnewzealand2698]

be like water , my friend

[@potatoguy9632]

can you do explaination about half dryfire and how to chose arrow and what is flex?

[@AG-hw1uz]

What do you mean by half dry fire

[@dinnerwithfranklin2451]

Excellent use of a water bottle. Thanks

[@onlyfacts4me]

Is there a point to expansion in the last phase if you are not using a clicker?

[@NUSensei]

The shot process is the same, and the shot should still feature the expansion. Not having a clicker doesn't change that; instead it just means you don't have a reference.

[@onlyfacts4me]

@@NUSensei Thanks so much for the response! What would you say is the main purpose of the last step of expansion? One might think that once you're at anchor point, aiming and releasing would do the trick. I'm currently experimenting with a shot cycle where I hold at anchor, the expand slightly while releasing. But I'm not sure how important that last expansion is.

[@NUSensei]

@@onlyfacts4me It's essential. Expansion is the dynamic element of the shot. Without it, the shot becomes static and the archer is more likely to collapse. Expansion is the last conscious thought, not the release. The release happens by itself; the expansion is the action that triggers it.

[@onlyfacts4me]

@@NUSensei That makes sense. Thank you so much. I've watched your videos over the past few years. Great stuff! Good luck to you.

[@SalmonFillit]

Trapezoids?! 😉 Love it

[@luludrinkerofcoffee4035]

I wondered if I was the only one.. lol LOWER TRAPEZOIDS! I love it, and I will make it a thing. it's a thing

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

I belive the exspansion as you call it must be concious at first to activate the correct muscle use, then it can be dumped into muscle memory as correct "program" another vital thing is the direction of forces and energi, if you dont incoperate holding you basicly doing drive by shooting relying on pin point timing to release when the pin passes x. With holding the muscles get to transfer load onto the frame and bones AND... Setlle to get rid of uwanted directional forces, the mind is faster than your boody. As for keeping moving while holding, i think its more a transision from contracting to isometric then back to contractions as you "exspand"

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

@@Some__Rando the pectoralis is fixed to the humerus so its the rhomboid that moves the scapula

[@Waltham1892]

Your form looks better this week.

[@jonoedwards4195]

I Believe Young Nu has been working out?

[@Waltham1892]

@@jonoedwards4195 Nu 2.0?

[@TheAegisClaw]

Is it a holding step or an aiming step 😉. As a compound archer we make no excuses for aiming.

[@NUSensei]

Aiming shouldn't be happening during Holding - in the KSL cycle, Aiming is a subconscious part of the expansion. However, in indoor rounds, the need to be more precise with aiming will likely lead to the archer being more conscious about aiming during this step.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

As you arrive at holding your motions should allready have your pin in the gold, and during holding your maintain the float or make adjustments.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

@@NUSensei do we realy aim? Or do we align?

[@TheAegisClaw]

@@mortenjacobsen5673 how did your pin get to the gold?

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

@@TheAegisClaw you drop it in from above... Its always from above the gold is always below the arrow shelf... And the arrows have a parabolic arch