Recurve Archery - Do different string styles make a difference?

[@spirobouloukos511]

Excellent shooting James! And with a recurve.

[@glennbayley5863]

Fantastic Form james is some archer congratulations.

[@petrokemikal]

2 biggest improvments to my shooting without question were, reducing my draw weight..and getting rid of my fiberoptic sight.. I now have a square sight with a round window.. It stopped me trying to force the tiny little bright dot into the target.. I got tired too quickly with the heavier draw weight, arrows flying all over the shop..

[@garymickus6412]

I use a round aperture without a pin. Makes me less anxious when aiming. Tip I picked up from Stacey K. Seems to work at the shorter distances. No experience beyond 18 meters.

[@joepass5624]

Holeee crap!! It sure is fun to watch James shoot!

[@lstavenhagen]

Totally agree; the different styles of strings will have zero, zilch, nada, nichts, effect on your scores. I'm told the Korean shooters prefer the loops being served, but with the gap at the "Y" - it's just part of the particular technique they use of making the string. The only downside of the unserved loops is the string can wear out at the loops a little quicker. But when you're shooting 8 billion arrows per session in between taking the bow down, it won't make any difference. I make mine the "traditional" way with served loops and then the end serving wrapping up onto the "Y". But I'm such a crap shot it's only down to my habit of how I make strings....

[@Australian_Made]

The style of how the loops are formed can have an affect upon confidence. Never underestimate how much your performance is affected BY the state of the confidence. That is to say, if you're preoccupied / distracted with blaming the loops style, you'll score worse. If you bloom 100% utter confidence in ALL aspects of your gear, you'll score better. 🎉👍😇

[@lstavenhagen]

@@Australian_Made Totally agree. In fact, at the end of the day, other than simple fitment/injury avoidance issues, restoring confidence is about the only time changing your gear these days will affect your scores. As long as it fits you and doesn't rip your arms out of their sockets, you're pretty much 99% of the way there. The rest is up to us - the last thing that should be on our minds at full draw is the bow & arrow, so throw money at it if you have to, until you can forget about it.

[@KentRodgman]

I started making my strings with the GAS style small gap and though I didn't notice much in my score, I think it feels a little different. There is a little bit less of a "whack" sound and the bow settles sooner in my hand. It's very minor, and may not do anything for my score, but I prefer the feel and if it's something that feels better you're more likely to keep doing it. I also tried the no serving loop, which felt to me the same as the gap, but was a pain to string/unstring the bow to keep them all gathered. Good experiment, and shoot what you like!

[@iainhamilton4886]

Some people shoot strings with tag end servings (servings formed using the string material) and some shoot what would be called conventional servings on the loops. I am in the former group and have been for several years since shooting in the US. I find it quicker, simpler and no doubt cheaper when making recurve strings (and compound strings) to use tag end serving methods. My experience is that the loops lie flatter at the Y and the string is overall lighter. Do they wear quicker? Not in my experience and although not shooting as much now I used to shoot several times a week amounting to several hundred arrows. I am currently using a tag end served string that is 18 months old and still performing well with minimal wear on the loops. Shooting well is about form and confidence in your equipment and set up. Clearly James has that in abundance so I would not expect it to make a significant difference.

[@bradlauber9097]

Great shooting, perfect practice makes perfect!!!! I have medium kinetic honoric limbs on my w@w black elk 21 inch bare bow riser,, 46 lbs. I find these limbs to be slow in speed compared to my bamboo core limbs. I hope you do a speed test cronogragh on these limbs? 8 grains and 10 grain per pound arrows at 28 inch draw???

[@chrisgaskell3706]

Congratulations on James's results at the nationals. 🎉 I hadn't realised that there were now more choices of strings to confuse the issues 😅 How did the youngsters that you were managing/helping get on at the nationals?

[@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale]

I will do a video on the Nationals - I was in to much pain at the Nationals to do it getting better this week.

[@chrisgaskell3706]

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Hope your back gets better soon. (I understand its your back from other comments)

[@Australian_Made]

​@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale 💓 💙 💖 💞 💛 💝 💕 💜 💟 💚

[@keitheborde9555]

whats the spine of his arrows?

[@johncashen2170]

Steve, what spine is James using

[@tehrealretiredchef5698]

Hi, can you tell me more about you arrows? tip? spine? length? best wishes

[@derekhunt9118]

I. am surprised that an archer of Brady's experience would shoot a string without serving. The serving protects the material and also improves the movement which helps to align the string into the limb grooves , without serving the material is likely to stick because of wax etc.

[@peterxyz3541]

You’re right: Practice is more important than gear

[@tehrealretiredchef5698]

what kind of riser is it? cant find it on the webstore

[@tehrealretiredchef5698]

Does anybody knows?

[@azzlaziz]

Does Wiawis not make any noise with you showing that your archer(s) use knock-off gear? With regards to the string types; yes, the scores might not be different but it's all about feeling. I haven't shot a "no-end-serve" but I do feel like the string with the disconnected end-serving feels softer than the normal one.

[@KentRodgman]

Thought the same thing... I was like that's a cool custom colored ATF-DX... and then he explained what it was

[@Australian_Made]

😊😊😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I luvs it, James. WTG

[@maxschell8823]

Interesting. I think the string testing could take months and include things like string material, number of strands, brace height etc., etc. In the end it's all about the archer...in my opinion.

[@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale]

These were all the same material and same length. James has tried different materials previously. I tried different materials. I could not really tell the difference. Korea said Koreans use Fast Flight as it is more forgiving while Europe normally use 8125.

[@garymickus6412]

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Use 8125 myself but cannot compare because have not shot any other string material except for Dacron. I found Dacron produces a softer feel with less vibration but much slower than 8125.

[@davidjensen2411]

Shooting in front of the camera is _so hard!_

[@Dakuan73]

Do you normally park your cars next to the bale. Hahaha

[@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale]

Yes I need to sell them

[@Australian_Made]

· OK, I own the SAME 2015 vintage WIAWIS ACS nano Long Rod, ~ ~ so I need to buy MATCHING WHITE Vellator Side Rods, like James has.

[@colingregory7464]

I wouldn't expect the unserved end string's life expectancy to be as long as a "Normal" string but you can make one in Half? the time it takes to make a proper string

[@garymickus6412]

I would not shoot the string without serving on the end loops. Afraid it would break because the bare string material has no abrasion protection.

[@NPC-fl3gq]

Dang that second group was sweet. Sure a few were 9's and one missed, but for guys would don't shoot 3.2mm arrows... he would have had multiple robin hoods if he was shooting standard size arrows. Tight.

[@MarvinHeath-j8v]

Bow tech make finger shooting Bow with low let off

[@almkuzmin]

With all the respect to you Steven and James. I'm pretty sure the way you conduct this test is absolutely worthless. When talking about tiny changes to the TOP archer's gear you try to reach for the very last points to 600/360. And it would become noticeable only on the long run, not like this - after shooting one set of 6 arrows.

[@mtnphot]

He mentioned this in the video including the marginal gains

[@urbantrail7635]

Some archers would think you only get good points with expensive equipment. 😂

[@christopherporter4561]

I see no difference...

[@dnidenda265]

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