ARCHETYPES are Pathfinder 2e's BEST Feature

[@mattsullivan2458]

Because of free archetypes, and because of Howl of the Wild, i finally get to play a Dandy Lion. 10/10 recommend free archetypes.

[@danielbeshers1689]

The word "archetype' was spoken 63 times in this video.

[@Loreleison]

And you got 63 likes, would you look at that

[@freelancerthe2561]

with a level of salivation that is concerning

[@rustedbeetle]

And mispronounced every time.

[@littlegiantj8761]

First PF2e character I ran was a Goblin Rogue who worshipped Calistria. He ended up becoming smitten with the Champion, and that combined with fulfilling a quest for revenge against his torturer led to taking the Cleric Multiclass. He changed from Calistria to Cayden, turning over a new leaf.

[@ThatVia]

“I no longer care about revenge, I want to drink booze and kiss WOMEN”

[@littlegiantj8761]

@@ThatVia specifically a muscled Vishkanyette who worships Fendara

[@Gloomfall]

Archetypes are amazing. Free Archetypes are more of something that's amazing. I really wish people would hype Ancestry Paragon too though. It's an unsung hero, especially when paired with Free Archetype!

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

I have built many characters with Ancestry Paragon with no free Archetype an some Ancestries using it can be so stupid paired with certain classes lol

[@ryuku2]

Wait what's Ancestry Paragon?

[@JacksonOwex]

I LOVE that one too! My game is using that and Free Archetype! It kind of feels like a bit too many choices but my group seems to be handling it pretty well. We are mostly(we have one person who has only been playing for a few years) 20+ year gaming veterans though, so that helps a lot!

[@JacksonOwex]

@@ryuku2 Extra Ancestry Feats!!! Two at first level and then I think one every odd level instead of whatever is normal(Which I think is every four(1, 5, 9, 13, 17) levels!

[@Gloomfall]

@@ryuku2 EXACTLY!

[@AvenKallan]

My favorite Pathfinder charachter so far is an Ancient Elf Rogue. Ancient Elf gave an extra Dedication feat and my rogue archtype was trickster rogue (pre rework) which gave me a free magical dedication. So I took Monk and Scroll Trickster. I put lots of skill advancement into all 4 spellcasting lores so I could cast spells of any tradition. I was an elf from a prestigious family who failed out of a magic academy because I had no actual magical capabilities, even though I was an excellent student. Since I'm constantly casting spells via magical items and carrying around lots of tomes and parchment everyone assumes I'm a spellcaster. I described my appearance as Milo from Lost City of Atlantis. From my Monk feats I took Stumbling stance, but rather than disguising my movements as being drunk I disguised it as being a bumbling academic.

[@JacksonOwex]

Trickster Rogue is still PERFECTLY playable after the Remaster, even in Society!!!

[@FireSeraph007]

Don't both the ancient elf heritage and eldritch trickster racket give out multiclass dedications?

[@randomizzie]

Playing an Inventor with the Alchemist Archetype on our Kingmaker Campaign. My best and most detailed character so far. My formula book is full of great stuff xD Archetypes are soooo cool!

[@JustAnotherJames3]

Archetypes are part of what sold me on the system, ngl.

[@atomjack]

And mispronounced every time 🤣

[@Rashagar]

I really love Herbalist and Talisman Dabbler, for a kind of "cottage magic" style of character.

[@TheOnlyTherazan]

I GM for a group of players who started D&D 5E last September, and who accepted to let me GM Pathfinder for them in parallel. I introduced them to Bonus Archetype before they hit level 2, and seeing how well they handled it when they leveled up just goes to show how good this rule (and the Archetype system at all) is in the first place!

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

Someone (I want to say KingOogatron?) mentioned that if there were a 2.5/3E in about five years, putting or allowing a Profession archetype feat implanted inside backgrounds would kickstart archetype exposure and increase the value of backgrounds and that’s been on my mind since. And then also reducing the number of archetypes but spicing up and mashing existing ones. But yeah archetypes in pathfinder are absolutely fire and one of my favorite features in the whole game. Change brain chemistry for how to design advancement and multiclassing.

[@JamesTillmanjimthegray]

In the bloodlords game I'm running our skeleton rogue has swashbuckler and dandy and he's epic

[@Ins4n1ty_]

I'm playing currently on a new group we got together in the Pathfinder Society discord. I made a Resentment Witch ratfolk with a cat famliar, last session we leveled to 2 and I had the brilliant idea of getting the Beastmaster archetype (free archetype of course). I am now a Rat witch with a cat familiar and a pet dog. And they all go into the battlefield with me.

[@mthhw6923]

bro is playing Tom&Jerry

[@HighmageDerin]

Still haven't had a chance to play a game of Pathfinder yet because I haven't found Anyone in my area who actually plays The Game. But I've been having all kinds of fun making up characters using the cell phone app. I really like adding that second class and using architects to make up some pretty interesting combinations of characters. My current obsession trying to make Benders from Avatar in Pathfinder using the new Kineticist and the monk.

[@GrimmDichotomy]

I loooove the Free Archetype system 💚 For my local group, soon we're going to be running a 2E conversion of Shattered Star! So the GM is allowing Free Archetype for the Pathfinder Agent (and the three "upgrade" Archetypes, Scrollmaster, Spellmaster, and Swordmaster) since the premise of that AP is that the PC's are members of the Varisian Pathfinder Lodge =] I'm playing a Wizard who's going to spec into Scrollmaster later, and will also be using my own class feats to get Psychic multiclassing and eventually the Time Mage archetype once I have sufficient feats in the three others! Basically he's going to be a chronomancer who knows things he really shouldn't be able to xP

[@boscostix164]

I've got a Kitsune Psychic Dandy/Time Wizard. He's great with people and also great at erasing mistakes. I thought Delay Consequence from Time Wizard would be just a fun little party trick. Turns out I use it ALL THE TIME. You can delay someone from being swallowed, then have the party nuke the thing that had tried to swallow it before the turn is up. Also great for preventing a character from going down. He also has Lose The Path, Wooden Double, and even Distracting Flattery. He's basically there to prevent anything bad from happening.

[@harjutapa]

I was just running Sky King's Tomb and a perfect use of the archetype system came up. At a certain point in SKT, the party runs into an animated doll type construct. It is pictured in the art as holding a teddy bear, though that doesn't appear in the stats. But I flavored it as instead of a fists attack, it was swinging the teddy bear loaded with iron filling (nearby source of iron). One of my players was very annoyed by this, killed the doll, and rescued the teddy. Used the stuffing from a nearby sofa to fix it, and rolled really well on the Crafting check. So I offered them the choice to replace their current archetype (they were level 3 in a Free Archetype campaign) with the Familiar Master archetype, and I haven't seen a player that excited in years :)

[@harjutapa]

(They hadn't really used their original archetype and had really only picked one because nothing really jumped out to them)

[@christophandre]

I like Untamed Druids with the Beastmaster Dedication. It's basically playing a second order without having to choose for which one you want to spent you class feats for. You just go down the full animal path. Also, combining your Battle Forms and your Companion(s) makes it absolutely possible to play a melee druid with zero strength, at least on lower levels. This makes it possible to spent some points on Charisma and getting more out of your capability to talk with animals or druid feats regarding demoralize. So it's also a great bonus out of combat with a lot of roleplay potential.

[@alexisglaab2572]

I love PF2e archetypes, I usually play with three players and Free Archetypes helps to give them an extra little power boost to help balance things, as well as some more cool options for character building. Also they can be used to add story too, in my Rise of the Runelords campaign, one character became Runescarred when they were caught in the magic of an exploding runewell.

[@Scorpious187]

I'm going to be playing a Catfolk Swashbuckler with the Clawed Catfolk archetype in a campaign starting in two days. Can't wait.

[@ghostyuki-kfpinquisitor1038]

Characterwise, I'll probably list some others but - My first was a fetchling monk/wrestler/oozemorph. Was inspired by the ring/grudge. Climb anything, grab and strangle or throw ppl. Cloak of the bat to grab while hanging from the ceiling - Most recent was a mother vulture cleric/swarmkeeper/spore druid to keep with the whole decay theme (and enough shrooms to make the last of us proud) - Next one's probably going to be an armor inventor/clockwork reanimator/golem grafter. Does a lot of self mod a la the mechanicus, testing them on the minion first.

[@moonglade420]

I have a fire/water kineticist who's going into wrestler and once she can grab thermal nimbus, she's gonna grab it to make it a real bad time for those she grabs

[@aimingforstars1125]

I'm going to be running my first PF2e game and I am SO excited to see what my players pick using the Free Archetype rules. We've used them before in our other game and it has had very few drawbacks. It just adds to the fun!

[@BoltGamr]

It's the key difference between building upwards (more power, bigger numbers, better spells, etc.) and building outwards (more variety, more ways to use smaller numbers, more spells, etc.) It means your group of 4 characters is far more likely to have a solution to the problem they face because 2 of them have the skills for it and someone has a spell, and they can all help the last person, rather than everyone relying on one spell and 3 lucky dice rolls

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@BoltGamr this is way DND modern sucks the life from me looking at its rules

[@CommunistKoolAidMan]

I saw the Exorcist archetype and made a Thaumaturge to mesh with it.

[@TheThoerlChannel]

I love running free archetype, and I wish my first PF2 character could have one, I picked an archetype feat basically any time I could. She's a Gnome Druid with the Monk Dedication. So I gave her elemental Ki Strikes and use buff spells for high speed and damage on unarmed attacks, but she can also retreat quickly and still blast stuff with strong primal spells. Will this work out on high levels? Mabe not, but free Archetype would probably make it easier.

[@june4976]

I always enable free archetypes in my games, and automatic bonus progression for more flavour. It just makes characters so much more unique and versatile. And I think the quirkiest character I build up to now is an Awakened Animal Kineticist (Earth gate, later adding wood gate) having Wild mimic dedication and very late in the progression Stonebound dedication. It's a character built to burrow beneath the opponent and blast them out of this world, either with kinetic blasts or with melee attacks from below. The base animal I chose is the Damibwa.

[@JacksonOwex]

ABP just means the GM doesn't have to mess with treasure, it does NOTHING for making characters different!

[@june4976]

It makes their choices in gear different, so they don't have to take all the same stat enhancing stuff but can opt for more character-dependent or just flavorful stuff.

[@kelpiekit4002]

Free archetype can be taken off direct levelling and treated as a roleplaying reward too. Though some will work better than others and it should be something the player wants rather than the GM just deciding on one for them. For instance, a player may seek an NPC out or train up a relationship to gain the sniping duo there and then without waiting for their next level up (so long as they are high enough level). And it gains feats when it is narratively right rather than by level (or loses them if narratively right, such as abusing a relationship core to it or a celebrity going into hiding for too long, and so long as it's an agreed style of play).

[@camiloguadalupetorres2442]

As a GM I always use the Free Archtype rule. It really helps players expand their options.

[@amberghylles]

I play an Orc Dragonblooded sorcerer with the wrestler free archetype. He's also got his orc ferocity and his warmask. Is it optimal to charge into melee and grapple things... no. Is it absolutely a blast to play for him to refer to himself as a dragon while carrying on like a pro wrestler? Yes. And in a different game, I have a wizard who's a Loremaster and an Eldritch Researcher, which just doubles down on that classic bookworm stereotype but is also a lot of fun to just lean so heavily into.

[@JacksonOwex]

SUPLEX THE TRAIN!!!!!

[@TheArchermonkey]

One of my favourite uses of Free Archetype was an Inexorable Iron Orc Magus with the Swashbuckler Archetype. By taking the Braggart Style and the Antagonise Swashbuckler Feat it allowed me to get a 'taunt' with Intimidation, forcing opponents to attack me as the party's tank or get penalties to everything because they couldn't get rid of their Frightened Condition.

[@jamesgillen2339]

Except of course there are certain classes like Bard (with their focus spell feats) and Clerics (with their Divine Domain focus feats) that also would eat class feats to get an archetype on standard rules.

[@Hentieblaster69]

I have a kineticist barbarian inventor as my current character lol, kineticist is the main class with fire and water for support/ ranged attacks and such. Barbarian for close combat stuff and inventor to get a specialized weapon to help the build. I just picked up the steam knight ability for the fire and water combo, which goes really well with my sort of melee build.

[@JHB1047]

Support Comment. Keep doing your thing man.

[@rdmrdm2659]

Comsidering(depending on how the oracle ends up looking pc2, an oracle of bones hallowed necromancer.

[@marianpetera8436]

1:27 Gaining an arcane cantrip on your barbarian is awesome until you go BRRRRR ME SMASH YOU BIG and all spellcasting flies out of the window :)

[@KaminoZan]

Free Archetype is really the only way I've been able to realize my character concepts in P2E. One in particular takes inspiration from Digimon: Frontier's Warrior of Darkness, by adapting it into this system with a Liberator Champion chassis and a homebrew deity. I gutted most of the Champion class feats and filled them in with feats from the: Diabolic Sorcerer, Soulforger, and Rogue dedications. It's a bit of a mess, but... I got my Dark Knight! :-D

[@fnvtyjkusg]

Barb would struggle with message cantrip as it has concentrate

[@Sugar_Crash1]

My DM personally homebrewed the restriction on Magic archetype for SoT by altering it to: You have to EITHER Have a Class, OR Archetype that grants Spellcasting. If you choose a Martial primary, you must pick a Spellcasting archetype.....But, if you pick a Spellcasting Primary class, any archetype is fine

[@JacksonOwex]

The hell is "Half a class" mean?

[@BlueTressym]

@@JacksonOwex might've been a typo or autocorrect issue and meant 'Have a class".

[@Sugar_Crash1]

@@BlueTressym This is correct, it was Autocorrect being an ass

[@Kuitehkui]

If I remember right, Gatewalkers introduced a similar thing like free archetype with their deviant abilities, essentially adding a little extra flavour into the AP. I've never played flat out with the Free Archetype variant rules, but I think it would definetely work well with certain campaigns, if your players are gearing up to join the hellknights, attempting to become wandering cavaliers or just interested in fleshing themselves out more. Up till now I've been letting my players access archetype feats as a free feat if they involve some downtime or ingame engagement, but just letting them have it is something I'm interested in trying out!

[@JacksonOwex]

Deviant Abilities are USED in Gatewalkers but they were INTRODUCED in Dark Archives!

[@kingbobb007]

Running our first campaign, players started asking for this. I added it at level 8 using in-story mechanics when the party finished an AP book and had access to trainers as a reward.

[@tobbbeyyy]

Thanks for this great information video! Helped a lot. In one of your videos you mentioned that you are running out of ideas what to cover. What would help me as a „new“ player would be a video for standard „procedure“ in combats for maybe each class. Else than I hit with my sword or cast spell. And in which order what possibilities are an option or would fit. For example me as a bard need to speak a lot with my team members to delay or do sth to profit of my buffs. And this to know was a lot of reading and experimenting without any good advise

[@cchandonait]

Looking forward to trying a Monk Wrestler in our upcoming pirate campaign. This is only my second PF character and I'm loving the variety of options compared to that other game.

[@saqwana25]

I was playing an angelkin summonor in plague stone and picked up the alchemical crafting feat. Than once we beat final boss I got the alchemic crossbow. So when we moved into abomination vaults at level 3 we were allowed to tweak our towns and use free archetype so I grabbed the archer one so now I have my crossbow for offense when I run out of spells and can do silly blocking and maneuvering with my angelic avenger eidolon and my crossbow. Nothing like act together allowing me to running reload while my angel attacks to step up my use of an alchemically empower bolt at the enemy.

[@PTrailblazer57]

i swear this is your second video on free archetype. and i tried so hard to get my GM to do free archetype when we started his campaign. really wish he had listened to me as i am struggling within the coinstraints of the game to have my telekinetic sorceress. good thing my bloodline feats suck.

[@JacksonOwex]

I believe it is but with the Remaster hopefully bringing in more people it was a nice video to have again! We'll also be getting... I think it's 40 archetypes in Player Core 2(Unsure if this includes the 8 from the classes that we're getting).

[@alancarlon2794]

I usually build Characters of six level with free archetypes, cause it gives me a very good glimpse of what it will become, I recommend to try it and see wonderful deep customization even at early levels.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

am so scared about using free archetype since some characters I have built will be so much more stupid I made a Mummy Dragon Sorcerer who uses moister to become humanoid to enter political areas an ruin naughty people an the idea of using a second archetype on top of mummy is haunting

[@gryphoncompanion]

I gave my life oracle the cleric and hallowed necromancer archetypes. It fits really well for her :)

[@ksteinwand6744]

I'd suggest talking about Ancestral Paragon as well for a variant choice. Granted it's not in GM Core, but it's another really cool option for fleshing out characters that like FA, doesn't completely throw out the balance of gameplay (although humans being able to take just about every major General/Skill feat might be seen as problematic to some lol).

[@hellfrozenphoenix13]

For me, its my half leshy, half automaton Alchemist with an archetype into Kineticist, basically a leshy who cannot photosynthesis naturally, so it built a suit from its connection to the plane of metal to survive. He starts to outgrow the suit and is unable to expand the suit fast enough, but he grows around the armor to use its systems to keep himself alive, turning him into a half machine, half natural being. (He is also a Leshy who becomes Large thanks to the Automoton feat, so thats cool!)

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@hellfrozenphoenix13 so big armor bursting at the seems by way of plant Seems to be typical day in the wilderness

[@sokarwas9859]

I didn't know about free archetype feat and I think its awesome, my players will be so happy (or will be overwhelmed by the possibilities) hahaha

[@Animenite97]

"You can ignore the 'special' text once. This is generally accepted." literally never heard of this lmao

[@JacksonOwex]

I haven't heard this either! There are a couple that remove it in special circumstances. Though I HAVE thought about allowing people to take different archetypes with their class feats than they are taking with their FA feats if they want to.

[@WolforNuva]

@@JacksonOwex Yeah this is how I've seen it run. I did notice Pathbuilder has an option for removing "feat restrictions" (the special text), which is the only hint I've seen that people might play this way.

[@FireSeraph007]

I've come across this argument a couple of times and it's usually in combination with a couple of features that don't mesh well with the free archetype ruling. The ancient elf heritage, the eldritch rogue racket and the spellshot gunslinger way are the ones that I can think of that doesn't work too well for instance. Or worse, a player makes an ancient elf eldritch rogue.

[@THEdeadlynightshade1646]

A alchemist with the strounger archetype with the assurance skill feat on crafting to ignore the penalty was also a goblin for junk crafter his name was red son of Billy born in the hills from the neck biter tribe so i could craft basically anything out of anything 😅

[@JacksonOwex]

SoT goes a little more specific and it allows Wizard and Druid! I think there's a lore reason given in the SoT Player's Guide. However, if I ever actually run it, I think I will just use Free Archetype without restriction because some people may not want to have magic(I'll want reasons why they are at a magic school of course) and others might START as a spellcaster to begin with thus wanting to add something else to their character rather than MORE spellcasting.

[@mrpiratedancer4rrr]

Acrobat Swashbuckler for the win! You can't keep me down! Crawling everywhere, popping up, and tripping ya baddies! (kip up is so much fun especially on such a mobile character)

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

Swashbuckler Centaur without free archetype is already busted lol a fifty feet movement speed WTF

[@CoyoteKin]

I like giving the Free Archetype and Ancestry Paragon options. It works really well for small parties too.

[@Hughes81]

I've been wanting to remake my Hunter from a 1e WoR campaign. I was thinking of Druid with Beastmaster and Clawdancer Free Archtype.

[@JasonCorfman]

You mentioned that Level 1 is unchanged. I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate. Granted, you still build a level 1 character the same as before, but many archetypes do have a prerequisite that you might have to think about at level 1. You need a +2 to INT to take the wizard archetype, for instance. And if you don't have that at level 1, you likely aren't going to get it at level 2.

[@BlueTressym]

Good point.

[@undrhil]

It wouldn't change much because they would probably be taking that wizard multi-class feet regardless of the free archetype variant rule being in place. Also there's a variant rule called gradual bonus progression

[@professorpantherhardraad3921]

This is gonna work wonders for my Champion of Erastil

[@Greenknight3]

Honestly they are pretty fun, I played an investigator with the eldritch researcher archetype, absolute madness issues

[@rattatooi]

I've played exactly one session (not campaign, just one session) without free Archetype. My group is never going back!

[@ghostyuki-kfpinquisitor1038]

Personally, archetypes and sometimes free arche are necessary to make my char concepts work. They're also about 90% of the character variety in my opinion It's usually popular to pair it with starting at level 2 both to skip the issues with level 1 and start with the archetype (useful for builds built around proficiencies the arche gives) The 3 action economy generally keeps the power level in check One way to limit options could be having the player give character reasons for the arche instead of mechanical ones The other issue I've seen with f.a. is if the archetype you want to take starts at lvl 4 I've never seen the ignore the special text done. Usually theyre allowed to take a skill (or class with a generous gm) feat in that slot instead

[@NightKrowe]

As someone who has played pathfinder a single digit number of times, I have to point out that @3:17 you say that archetype feats are equal to a class feat of "double it's level" when I think you meant half, and when you suggest a barbarian can message @4:32 the spell has the concentrate tag which barbarians can't use during rage (which, in my experience, is the only thing they do in combat)

[@McHerpyDerps]

Im playing a champion of besmara who is a pirate but because the campaign isnt on the seas im using both the Wrestler archetype and Marshal archetype to lock down enemies and help out allies. It oddly works out pretty well even if its not as thematic as the Pirate archetype may have been

[@cha0sunity]

I just started using the free archetype rule at one of my tables. I created a list of archetypes that fit the setting and let them pick from that list. Seems to work well.

[@mogscugg2639]

Amulet and mirror thaumaturge with Marshal archetype 👌

[@coreyeaston6823]

Love free archetypes!

[@Colouroutofspace4]

I like archetypes but I don't use free archetype unless it's a theme game where it helps fit the theme. Like i would use it in a thieves guild campaign to help characters fill their role in the guild better even if they aren't playing a rogue. Or if I wamted an undead campaign to give them their umdead archetype they wanted. As a rule that always improves every campaign I use it in, I have to say Background Relics are my favorite.

[@dyne313]

The only thing I like better than the Free Archetype variant is the Duel Class variant.

[@huwevans7710]

I let my players take free archetype later on in a campaign to try and flesh out their characters, most of them have been great and thematic but I seriously regret the power creep the rogue got. level 16 rogue withthe dual-weapon warrior archetype+ quicksilver mutagen (greater) leads to some disgusting damage spikes. He usually opens with dual weapon blitz on a enemy (offguard due to rolling stealth) crits twice, and then if the enemy is still alive finishes them off with two weapon flurry. I'm having a really hard time balancing encounters with him versus the rest of the party.

[@Talonnz1]

Love my free Archetypes haha. I have a Alchemeist, Medic and Beastmaster all in one lol

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@Talonnz1 combine the class with the Merfolk that tracks blood and nothing is safe

[@elianisthebrave6988]

Next time i get to play will be in a Super Mario inspired campaign and i'm gonna play a Kong Barbarian (orc/awaken animal barbarian) with the Wrestler archetype. He's going to 🍍 Ananas 🍍 Slama 🍍 some fools!

[@cyrusmann5443]

I'm thinking that a way to make this rule even better could be to allow someone to have their free archetype be that of their own class. Some folks might just not find an archetype that fits with their character, and this could solve the issue.

[@dix-neufcmsifredi2706]

My dream of a character lvl 2 with 3 archetypes came true: Behold my elf Eldritch Trickster, ancestral Longevity et with the free archetype rule Mouahaha !

[@challst]

I allow free archetype at my table. Sometimes I think it leads to all characters being a bit 'weird' (not in a bad way) and I sometimes miss the straightforward .. sometimes.

[@Nillockaroh]

I don't know if this has already been mentioned in the comments but I just wanted to note that this barbarian with message concept doesn't work super well, if that Barbarian is using their main class feature, being Rage, as you can't use actions with the concentrate trait unless they also have the rage trait. So barbarian isn't typically the best to cross class with a spellcasting class for that reason. Hopefully the upcoming Bloodrager archetype will have a cool way around this.

[@undrhil]

Moment of clarity

[@Nillockaroh]

@undrhil yeah, that's an option, but unless they make it better in the remaster the action economy in combat for that is not that great. A whole action to then use another single action spell then you have one more action and then your turn is over and you have to use that Moment of Clarity action again on your next turn to do something again with the Concentrate trait, so I wouldn't call it an ideal build strategy.

[@Nowhereville70757]

Definitely agree

[@gryphoncompanion]

Free archetype is the best thing ever. ^_^

[@rubygamer8921]

Hey Nonat, could I make a small request? I'm interested in homebrewing an ancestry more or less from scratch, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to do it. Could you potentially make a video going over it? Thank you in advance~!

[@shaynecarter-murray3127]

Pf1 archetypes were pretty cool

[@HDREconomist]

As someone who only gets to play Pathfinder when playing PFS, no free archetypes for me.

[@tylergrace6791]

Bullet Dancer Witch and I am literally Bayonetta

[@shon14Z]

I can't wait to make a character with Dual Class and free arctype that gets 2 free arctype by raw

[@nezyrex]

With free archetype and Howl of the Wild, my kobold can finally have pack tactics in PF2e! ...don't pay attention to her suspicious wet dog smell

[@zacharydavis311]

Are we ignoring the fangs on this man!

[@vendettarules1]

100% agreed before even watching the vid ;)

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

Personally, I just put a cap on total dedication feats and don't worry about when my players take it.

[@nickthebrick0691]

A thing that was missed, an archetype feat can not be replaced with a class feat. Had a player ask that in our game.

[@JacksonOwex]

When I first thought about trying to run some PF I was worried about one of the people I used to play with doing this too. That's why I decided I would call them Archetype Feats(the rule actually says you get an additional CLASS Feat that can be used to take any Archetype Feat) like NoNat does in the video! Glad I am not the only one with players like this!

[@skamosfb]

Archetypes are horizontal progression rather than vertical.

[@mattg5852]

Hard tail goblin warrior monk barbarian

[@quark12000]

I'd like to play with Free Archetype, unfortunately I only play PFS, and it's not available.

[@miramarto]

Is it just me or do I keep seeing water drops in the foreground? Is your roof leaking? Lol

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

His archetype is leaky talker

[@JacksonOwex]

11:07 Not that I've seen and I have DUG DEEP into archetypes! There are ones that people argue about not actually being archetypes feats because they are also skill feats(this is NOT true, people are just stupid)! Now you aren't, R.A.W. at least, allowed to take a Skill feat from an archetype with your class feats(or your FA feats I assume) but that seems like a stupid rule so I don't use it, even on the Feats that are odd leveled. If a player wants to hold a feat or use a higher one to take the lower level feat seems fine to me. I'll find out eventually as I'm running a game currently!

[@Gazunder]

Okay, No-sama what you are saying is In Free Archtype, Your first archtype feat is its Dedications; where in you could forgo the class feat for the archtype feat?

[@Nonat1s]

Nope! Dedications just need to be taken first. With the Free Archetype variant, you get a bonus feat at every even level that can ONLY be used on archetypes. The Dedication is just the first feat you need to take from each archetype 👍

[@Gazunder]

@@Nonat1s Well, that is more awesome then Awesome. Thanks!

[@joaoisidro2936]

Some archetypes don't have a lvl4 feat and/or don't have enought feats to choose one every 2 levels... How would you solve this lack of a feat to choose in your game?

[@gahfwa3541]

Free Archetypes?!?!? In THIS economy!?!?

[@keithulhu]

Want to make your GM cry? Everybody take the Beastmaster archetype.

[@Bagley2014]

I had to listen to 3:07 three times and I'm still not sure he said that right. Archetype feats are of equal power to class feats of half their level, not double, right?

[@urimor6236]

Someone took juggler?

[@pedrofmra]

4:28 Thanks for the shower.

[@jediprotector216]

With Pathfinder Society in mind, free archetype is not allowed but it does not limit characters with picking one. I have a Kobold Investigator with 2 archetypes currently. She has the Linguist Archetype and Dual Weapon Warrior Dedication, she got the second one at Level 6. I do have my Orc siblings who have the Beastmaster Dedications as well, one is a Ranger with a Wolf (Fang) and Raven (Jay), and the other is a Fire Druid with a Fire Elemental (Cinder) I also need to include there are some archetypes that allow an exception to 2 or more dedication feats like Pathfinder Agent Dedication allows for Pathfinder School of Spells, Scrolls, or Swords to supercede this rule. The Knights of Lastwall, Firebrands, Hellknights, and Magic Warrior also include it in their texts.

[@ketrava0425]

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