Ogre mercenaries just came out. Anyone else think it's time for @arch to release a new ogre Kingdoms vid?
@chezratte13578 жыл бұрын
to solve the problem with where new heroes come from, just add a fighting pit building to the Ogre bases. During the game it produces wealth (I´m pretty sure Ogres love betting) and every 4 or 5 level of your main character you can activate that building to get a new hero. But you have to sacrifice an Oger unit which is send into the fighting pit. The Oger coming out of the pit alive is the new hero.
@kanseiyamazaru4359 жыл бұрын
What I really like about the Ogre kingdoms is how one can play around with their hunger in game. During battles Ogre units, Gorgers especially, could just start wolfing down smaller enemy units left and right. After battles you can decided to capture the survivors for later uses such as food.
@ArchYouTube9 жыл бұрын
Tyler Stalvey Could be a cool if somewhat grisly mechanic to let you chose to simply eat the post-battle captives for a morale boost!
@DracoAvian9 жыл бұрын
Ransom or Feast!
@finlaywhite15239 жыл бұрын
Arch Warhammer they could have it as a morale boost to a unit that is nearby during the battle or instead of morale have a melee buff
@yogsothoth75949 жыл бұрын
You could have them get tired very quickly but be able to regenerate by eating the dead. Ogers should also have a high upkeep while outside their land to represent the problem feeding them.
@Arbaaltheundefeated8 жыл бұрын
+Arch Warhammer Now that we've been shown the Greenskins 'Fightiness' mechanic this seems like an even more feasible and thematically suitable thing if they were ever to add an Ogre faction. They could have a similar gague with various points at which the whole army gets buffs or debuffs depending on wether the gague is more or less full, and it drains over time, but can be filled by simply eating a great number of battle captives or choosing the Raze option when conquering cities.
@AA12Mustang7 жыл бұрын
"Bring me gold, or bring me seasoning!"
@justinwainwright50697 жыл бұрын
"there are no brakes on this paticular rape train". this statement reprsents your channel as a whole.
@hermanjohannes6259 жыл бұрын
Like the videos! Remember that Greasus is still very strong. He squeezed all of the fluid out of an black orc warboss, until only a unrecognizable hunk of flesh and metal were left. He is only too lazy to walk, but that does not mean he doesn't still like bashing in heads. The support skills are just an extra. Ogre leadbelchers have the same ballistic skills as humans and dwaves. All three are ballistic skill 3. Ogres ride Mournfangs, which are great clawed bear-like creatures not rhinoxen. Also they have access to sabretusk packs, firebellies and giants.
@brodieknight7728 жыл бұрын
Ogres are overpowered as fuck, also ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
@seanconley11197 жыл бұрын
Alphabetical Disorder really then why were they ranked 10 on the best army in the table top?
@Spearhead4017 жыл бұрын
Sean Conley not enough people play them
@dank_smirk99716 жыл бұрын
SomeBODY once told me the world is gonna roll me...
@CantusTropus9 жыл бұрын
There's also the fact that Ironguts hit hard enough that even monstrous creatures like Dragons can't afford to ignore them. An Ogre wielding a sledgehammer is strong enough that each blow has about a 50% chance to cause permanent damage even to a full-grown dragon. That puts into perspective just how bloody strong an Ogre is.
@yuripantyhose49738 жыл бұрын
Another funfact it was the Ogres that destroyed the Giants Mountain/sky Kingdom, causing the giants to inbreed into what they are today in the lore.
@nightlock8264 жыл бұрын
If I was alive back in the day, this would probably be the army I started out in playing before moving on to tomb kings
@Khotgor5 жыл бұрын
I think if the Ogres lack a proper amount of versatility, why not use the Ogre Manhunters as a form of variety? Seems like there are a LOT of different variants of Manhunters just by looking at their many different models. Having there be different Manhunters with different specialized tactics, weapons, equipment, and roles within the Ogres would be good to add variety and fill out different roles.
@Johnnekaiser8 жыл бұрын
with WHTW Now out I believe that the ogre kingdoms should be played like the orks they have a "Metter" But it's for what it's called "Hunger" Basicly if you don't feed your ogres they will infighting with each other and basicly take a chunk out-of your army removing a full unit or two, How to feed your ogres are simple, Special buildings in their towns and cities, Units like butchers, and what I call a "Slave Army" I think the Ogres should have a secondary army following a main army with a special lord known as a slave deliver basicly ogres will eat anything and these slave drivers round up slaves in units to basicly feet that army but these slaves can still fight so in a emergency the slave army can be called to help the ogres in battle either in a real battle or a auto resolve
@sunttu3336 жыл бұрын
John Sheffar No more waaaghs in disguise, thanks
@93Avenger939 жыл бұрын
Honestly, using the same engine they have kept using since Empire, I would prefer if they didn't add the oggre kingdoms. Otherwise we will se the "hilarious" effect of the Rhino cavalry ogres charging at full speed towards some tiny human infantry formation, coming to a full stop once they reach base contact and proceeding to fight instead of just trampling everything into red paste.
@toxicjezza74698 жыл бұрын
They have massive impact cavalry charges In this one.
@tomfranck88217 жыл бұрын
Since the maneaters are mercenaries you could maybe have several versions of them who all come from different Countries and therefore have all different abilities. Like you could have "dwarven maneaters" who carry around dwarven and are heavily armored or a "imperial maneater" who has a slight increase in armor and movement speed because they are used to marching.
@jackhughes85855 жыл бұрын
Its a shame Rhinox aren't really a thing anymore.
@dah0heavy9 жыл бұрын
its ogre now everybody...
@Szminsky7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very cool army... I hope they will be fleshed out a bit more as a potential TW:WH DLC, a few more smaller units would put some more meat into the whole army.
@orkhepaj3 жыл бұрын
me want an ogre army too
@christophersmith88482 жыл бұрын
@@orkhepaj and now we have them
@dank_smirk99715 жыл бұрын
I really hope that the next Total War game will let you choose which Ogre to be able to put on a mount. Mostly cause I want to put a Firebelly on a Stonehorn purely because I want a model that has two breath attacks, one of fire and one of ice.
@EliteRifle9999 жыл бұрын
Da fuq giant cleavers for hands, ferocious, strong, big as fuck guy that would be badass and awesome. But no, he's a wizard....
@micaldomlancer14949 жыл бұрын
EliteRifle999 Their Wizards are essentially a Tyrant able to make other ogres immortal for a bit.
@EliteRifle9999 жыл бұрын
making other ogres immortal for a bit sounds gay, a giant ogre with hand cleavers wrekting shit sounds way more awesome
@micaldomlancer14949 жыл бұрын
EliteRifle999 Thing is he does that and he makes the other guys around him unkillable.
@EliteRifle9999 жыл бұрын
Ok now that sounds better :D
@CantusTropus9 жыл бұрын
EliteRifle999 Yeah, that's because an Ogre Mage is still...well...an Ogre. Ogre Mages can wreck the faces of most factions' dedicated combat characters.
@Ap1hw2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually only playing the Ogre Mawtribes/Kingdoms because the Gnoblar horde *doesn’t exist anymore*
@gerihuginn21437 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what beasts could scare an ogre, now I know.
@MrJonVike9 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos, always awesome when each faction feels overpowered in its own right, but maybe that's just your enthusiasm describing each army :)
@Pazzystar9 жыл бұрын
Slowing skills will make charging devastating coz you know you gonna die when ogres charge you.
@okaminotamashi74117 жыл бұрын
where's the mournfang cavalry?
@SEASON4BIS3 жыл бұрын
watching in 2021
@shmee123ful8 жыл бұрын
don't the ogre's have giants?
@shmee123ful7 жыл бұрын
How so?
@hermanjohannes6257 жыл бұрын
All faction's giants have same baseline stats and attacks.
@shmee123ful7 жыл бұрын
so if all giants are the same base wise how are ogre giants worse?
@hermanjohannes6257 жыл бұрын
I was trying to say that they are not worse. All giants are the same.
@shmee123ful7 жыл бұрын
oh then why did the other dude say their worse?
@UndeadRussianLord9 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video where i could see the full map of the warhammer world if there is any? And which faction owns what parts of the map?
@Wolf-zt9ue9 жыл бұрын
Ando M www.gitzmansgallery.com/warhammer-maps.html this should be good.
@ArchYouTube9 жыл бұрын
Wolf linked to an excellent site with tons of maps and ofc theres always the vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/c/c7/Warhammer_olde_world_map.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130917163104 Excuse the slow reply i occasionally feel the need to pass out for a few hours every other night ;)
@UndeadRussianLord9 жыл бұрын
Arch Warhammer hahah thanks guys
@charlottewalnut31184 жыл бұрын
Ah the Proper owners of the warhammer world
@jeremiasastorga83999 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Ogres will be present in the vanilla game. Probably a DLC expanding the map eastward. Otherwise they're just too far from the Old World to come into play.
@ShinjiTheBaka9 жыл бұрын
+Jeremias Astorga Unless we get some Man-eaters.
@jeremiasastorga83999 жыл бұрын
Those would make fantastic shock troop mercenaries.
@richardround20718 жыл бұрын
I think they will be in the second game, which I think will expand the map to the east and to the south, thus including ogres and tomb kings. I then think they would add skaven here as well.
@Dap1ssmonk Жыл бұрын
@@richardround2071 damn prophetic.
@helmwall1336 жыл бұрын
Few but strong units, If they are exhausted they go rampage and eats everything
@sethrice28948 жыл бұрын
ogre: SKAVEN skaven: what what ogre: IT'S ALL OGRE NOW there no skaven that were left un-nawed on
@charlottewalnut31185 жыл бұрын
seth rice they call skavenblight the worlds best buffet
@khaorix26677 жыл бұрын
I legit probably have Arch two dollars on just watching these videos alone. And I'll keep doing it.
@cloverdog858 жыл бұрын
Are ogres a minor faction or major faction in Warhammer(Ca said they would do the 17 major factions? or something)
@Arbaaltheundefeated8 жыл бұрын
+t zimm The Ogre Kingdoms are a major faction, although they only very recently became one. Minor factions include such nations as Tilea, Estalia, Araby, Cathay, etc which don't have their own proper army list. And I believe they only said they would LIKE to make all the major factions, but I kind of doubt that they will. Unless the game somehow ends up being a raging success and they get really awesome DLC and expansion sales to boot, to incentivize them to keep the ball rolling as it were.
@cloverdog858 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they did make the Ogres a playable faction or even a auxilary you can hire for alot of money. Thats to bad some of the minor factions wont be playable. They have some cool sounding backgrounds.
@kevingeurts21898 жыл бұрын
+Jørgen A no a minor faction
@kevingeurts21898 жыл бұрын
Like woodelves
@Arbaaltheundefeated8 жыл бұрын
kevin Geurts All the factions that have official army books are 'major', we're not talking about political significance. :p
@Pazzystar9 жыл бұрын
It would be prudent to give high tier Ogre melee units an initial missile attack on charge, huge stones or just their giant javelins.
@bbgunp5 жыл бұрын
To fill in the gaps- Mournfang-while not as deadly as the rhinox riders, they still can reach levels of rhinox’s if you buff them, they can get a 2+ save or a 3+ if you give the riders bloody great weapons making them a beat stick, and given a banner called the dragon hide, can make opponents strike last in combat unless they are elves but even then taking away there rerolls isn’t that bad and in addition of your charged you may reroll all failed to hit rolls. However like rhinox riders they are expensive low leadership and are massive targets but if they can get the charge prepar for D3+1 impact attacks with more if they get off over charge along with stomp and fear.
@jan-alexanderpelz16498 жыл бұрын
What about ogre vs giants?
@melonboi9278 жыл бұрын
that has happened and the giant's lost
@melonboi9278 жыл бұрын
that has happened and the giant's lost
@Gunmasterx78 жыл бұрын
What about Nippon?
@marlonyo7 жыл бұрын
i just want a lore video
@Darthvegeta80007 жыл бұрын
It will never happen. Too little lore for it to be implemented in the game.
@Herrbot9 жыл бұрын
Meatbus Is Comming^^
@reddude9549 жыл бұрын
Might I make a request for orcs next?
@ArchYouTube9 жыл бұрын
as it so happens i was planning on makin the Orcs nexst so yes, you may make such a request :D
@druzo51986 жыл бұрын
Where’s the music???
@CantusTropus9 жыл бұрын
Personally, I was never a fan of Ogres. It just feels like their only unique twist is having a ridiculous amount of sheer brute force. Their elite infantry is "hits even harder than regular infantry", their monsters are "hits EVEN HARDER than elite infantry". I guess what I don't like is that the entire point of the army, and the magic is to enable an extraordinarily straightforward strategy to go ahead. I mean, that can be fun, (don't get me wrong, I like Orcs, so it's not like straightforward violence is unappealing to me), but they just feel very one-dimensional. Orcs can go Black Orcs, normal Orcs, Savage Orcs, Goblins, Night Goblins, Spiders, Troll-heavy, monster-heavy, magic-heavy, even Artillery-heavy if you like. That's a lot more to my style than Ogres.
@xlamcx7 жыл бұрын
Statline for Shrek?
@xlamcx7 жыл бұрын
1D6, 2s or better summons "Donkey" and instantly kills every unit in your opponent's army.
@caredneck76138 жыл бұрын
This would be a terrifying army to fight please add to TW Warhammer
@TheBookOfAkersGaming7 ай бұрын
You should different! Neat!
@Ekonz906 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, Total war warhammer 2 has a mysterious faction coming
@captainteutonica547411 ай бұрын
It's Friday, where's my video Arch?
@TheBookOfAkersGaming7 ай бұрын
This video is 8 years old but yea. Arch does not upload schedule correctly lol.
@l0necroc8 жыл бұрын
The only faction I see that counters the ogres is the dwarves! :D
@Arbaaltheundefeated8 жыл бұрын
+Raptor Jesus Yeah the combination of great ranged power, infantry that is particularily good at taking heavy hits without running away, and of course the possibility of Slayers, would probably make Dwarves the greatest threat to any eventual Ogre faction.
@happydisaster67038 жыл бұрын
And anything with ranged weapons
@Mojsesz8 жыл бұрын
+HAPPY DISASTER Just use gnoblaz as shield ;)
@thatoneguy96154 жыл бұрын
Ogres: Ironguts Dwarves: Ironbreakers Hmmm
@jonwelsh74804 жыл бұрын
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@davidb31555 жыл бұрын
I hope we get the ogres and halflings in Warhammer 3 Total War
@seanconley11197 жыл бұрын
How to counter them. Warriors of Chaos.
@MyrdinAnnoth7 жыл бұрын
If its the table top - not really. Ogres can pretty much take on anything WoC have. All Elf factions are solid counter to Ogres shooting them down before they can get even into the charge range.
@daswordofgork98237 жыл бұрын
Sean Conley well dwarves are not initiative 5
@daswordofgork98237 жыл бұрын
Myrdin not really. Ogres are initiative 2 while woc are initiative 5. Also warriors of chaos troops (who the fuck uses maurauders) have a 4+ armor save 3 with a shield and 2 with either a bullshit banner and/or mark of chaos. On top of that they have the same strength as ogres and outnumber them 2-1. The warriors of chaos cannot be hurt by handguns, cannons, giant monsters, and magic. I know because I have tried all of that with Empire on a single unit of 20 and only killed at the MOST 5. And on top of that ogres will lose 2-3 of them in combat due to this. Especially if they have Halberds. WOC would then wound them on a 3.
@andrihjartarson88649 жыл бұрын
there are no brakes on this rape train!!!! hilarious
@garvielloken39293 жыл бұрын
Just BINGE re playing, commenting and liking (after the hack)...
@jasonsantos30374 жыл бұрын
I helped create the assembly could fix the ogres units LOL we get Warhammer 3 already
@fumarc45015 жыл бұрын
I prefer your lore and speculation videos. Have you ever considered making your own faction?
@ARandomNerd889 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Bragg the Gutsman? Wtf man...
@FQP-70242 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good bit of world building indeed it seems like it could be added easly
@ethanmcrae16658 жыл бұрын
how many points is the army shown in the first minute or so? Does anyone know?
@richardsorgo86006 жыл бұрын
And of course you have Giants
@bionictech99029 жыл бұрын
Why did you miss out the mourn fang cavalry?
@aaronkienenberger90283 жыл бұрын
:)
@vladalex21772 жыл бұрын
👍
@stopmotiongarage2203 жыл бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!
@achille2958 жыл бұрын
What about Bragg the Gutsman, why didn't you mention him and how would he fit in an Ogre Army? Like what are his strengths and weaknesses and is he any good?
@danielmaloney47499 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man, great detail, great ideas. Keep em up How do you think the game will turn out in all honesty?
@ArchYouTube9 жыл бұрын
Le Danny i can onely hope, with no gameplay or anything i couldent possibly guess
@danielmaloney47499 жыл бұрын
It has the potential to be a masterpiece its done correctly. I really, really hope it ends up so.
@magnos_decimus8 жыл бұрын
hey arch with the game actually out would it be possible to make update videos of the army list now that we have game play are structure to work with
@STEFAN94849 жыл бұрын
think of this: to unite all ogres + chaos dwarfs+ all green skins (goblins,orcs,goblars etc)+ skaven+ vampires+ the chaos forces+dark elves vs empire+bretonia+kislev+tilea+estalia+border of princes+dwarfs+ albion+ wood elves +high elves.. I would call this event: world armageddon! Arch if u know the guys that are working for this game,give them this idea,of a world war,about surviving,about the ballance of good and evil,about forgeting old hatreds,stuff like that,ofc the evil forces (is verry clear who are) will be the one atacking,starting the war,the fight,and lets say as a scope it would be to beat them back:exterminate the skaven,dark eles,pushing the ogres and the green skins far away,exterminating the vamps and chaos dwarfs,and beating the chaos forces untill the eye of terror and closing those portals.Happy end!
@STEFAN94849 жыл бұрын
STEFAN9484 And if the forces of evil win,they would masacre all humans,dwarfs,elves,and after wining the war,either end of story or a civil war between the evil forces on who to get and how much land.
@STEFAN94849 жыл бұрын
STEFAN9484 forgot to put the beast man so: green skins + ogres+beast man+ chaos dwarfs+skaven+vampires+dark elves+ chaos forces vs empire+bretonia+kislev+tilea+estalia+border of princes+dwarfs+albion+wood elves+high elves
@hermanjohannes6259 жыл бұрын
STEFAN9484 You forgot Lizardmen on the good side. Also the tomb kings and the ogres are unaligned meaning they can join either side.
@STEFAN94849 жыл бұрын
ogres are evil,lizardmen are on the other continent,and the tomb kings,didn't watch their lore&army,so dont know if they are evil or not,but they seem to me to minor
@hermanjohannes6259 жыл бұрын
STEFAN9484 Ogres are not evil. You will find them on both sides in any war in basically even numbers. Ogres do not care for who they fight as long as they get paid with food and gold. Their biggest battles were against orcs and warriors of chaos.
@Gunmasterx78 жыл бұрын
What about Nippon?
@18Krieger8 жыл бұрын
+Gunmasterx7 Nippon isnt really existent in the lore. Its mostly mentioned in context with Skaven and Ogres. The same counts for Cathay. Maybe with a bit luck we will see them in the TW Games. Well besides the problem that they have no army list and never really had any units.