It may be important to note that the Proton LT no longer uses a 40 denier face fabric. When they revised the design of that piece in late 2019 they changed it to a 20 denier fabric , which is similar to the Atom LT'. At this point I think that both of them will have similar durability, but I don't have both jackets to compare that.
@b_o_o_g_i_e__2 жыл бұрын
Tried multiple jackets in arcteryx store and others selling them. Settled on Atom LT as my mid under arcteryx shell for snowboarding, much better than the bad fitting fleece or down layers I was using before. And just a nice comfy every day hoody too. L fits snug but still moves well on me 6'2" 205lbs
@Fedgery007 Жыл бұрын
I have the Atom LT which I love. I also use it as a mid-layer for skiing.
@KirstenBayes3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciated list. I have been enjoying the 2020 Atom LT, and have found it works really well as a layering piece with either a Kyanite LT hoody or softshell underneath, or a Zeta AR hardshell on the top. Very likely to get a Proton based on this review, when my ship comes in.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Yes Atom will work great as a layering piece especially this newer 2020 version compared to its predecessors. But yes, the Proton is one special jacket.
@ovivan793 жыл бұрын
Those are excellent layering choices. Love my Kyanite LT with the Proton as well. The combination adds a lot of warmth to the system while staying breathable. Works well with the Atom SL and Proton FL, too
@pittwm2 жыл бұрын
I have both of these earlier gen…. I love the Proton for it’s fit and plan on getting a new gen ATOM LT for its new hem cinch cord.
@jonimakesails3 жыл бұрын
Great video...! I have an old Atom LT that I have had for several years which I loved and was always my jacket of choice. It's pretty used and abused now. This winter I decided it was time for a replacement and was planning on getting another Atom LT but after trying the new Atom LT and the Proton LT I went with the Proton. Main reason being the lack of those fleece side panels featured on the Atom. Plus the Proton has a better fit and the harder wearing outer material is an improvement over the Atom. I was a little put off by the extra cost of of the Proton but once I tried each of the jackets the decision was easy. That said they are both fantastic jackets. Another thing is these Arc'teryx jackets have a matt finish to the outer layer unlike the super shiny finish you find on most jackets of this type which I'm not a fan of.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for the feedback on your experience!
@FABM273 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was looking for!!
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching
@larimitchell7953 жыл бұрын
Firstly, this is an exceptional review. Bravo! Given the Proton LT's strength is breathability when motoring along, give thought to the Proton FL. Not as warm as the Proton LT but if you generate your own heat then the FL merits consideration. Also, be mindful of the trim fit of the jacket chosen. If one is not as trim as the reviewer then an XL might be better. The Atom LT and the Beta AR fit me well as a large, I need XL in the Proton FL and the Kyanite fleece.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Thanks good info. Yes I plan on checking out the FL to review sometime
@genericmike73613 жыл бұрын
Got the Proton FL, after buying the Proton Pant combo’d with the Zeta SL pants during 2021 winter. Now I grabbed the Proton FL and Zeta SL jackets today at 25% off. Sad the Proton LT was sold out everywhere :(
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@genericmike7361 great deal the FL though. Let me know how you like it
@thdjjfsfh3 жыл бұрын
Also, you can pack the jacket easily in their sleeve or hood. I prefer the hood, you can use the cinch cord to tighten it, then wrap it around the whole thing. Packing a jacket tightly into their pocket with those tiny zipper is hard with thick gloves or cold hand.
@simplyproductions5005 Жыл бұрын
Hoodless atom lt with the beta ar is my daily ski setup, it’s perfect
@muamerkapetanovic79402 жыл бұрын
I'm 176 cm and 75kg and i fell wery comfy in size Small..i was afraid that it would be to small but side stretch panels are great for mobility and comfort..i own both jackets atom and proton and i highly recomend..Graet rewiew bdw.👍👍👍
@TiagoWP7 Жыл бұрын
Hey. So im 1.64m and usually i wear size S… but reading your comment i should use size XS on Arcteryx jackets? Thanks
@JohnnyTaxonomy Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for this comparison and all the detail.
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
your welcome, glad it was helpful
@deanowarrior9 ай бұрын
Atom lt i have is great in still conditions but any cool wind at all send chills through the side panels.
@jonklass2 жыл бұрын
Wow man congrats and most importantly thank you for an amazing review. You covered pretty much everything one could ask for in a review.
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for the encouragement! Glad it helped
@sashinger52303 жыл бұрын
Such a great detailed review, very impressed by your work. I already have an Atom LT and like it pretty much for all around everyday carry. For hiking I just ordered the Proton FL and hope it will be breathing really that well. What I rather don’t like about the Protons is that printed logo. I prefer the stitching on the Atoms and hope the print will not get off with heavy use.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! let me know your thoughts on the Proton FL.
@rosscornwall92938 күн бұрын
The revised Proton Hoody (previously LT) 2024 now has an embroidered logo.
@BackcountryRenegade8 күн бұрын
@@rosscornwall9293 excellent thanks for the update
@crazehare3 жыл бұрын
This is the video I was searching for thanks for making it!!
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
great! hope it helps
@crazehare3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade yes it did! getting the Atom lt for the warmth!
@acurabby2 жыл бұрын
I have both the Proton LT Hoody and the Kyanite LT Hoody, what a match made to each other.Either or will be suffice to for just light hiking and playing acoustic at night on the patio/cabin located on the cliff side at night with a nice bonfire.😁
@jonhall86213 жыл бұрын
This was the jacket comparison that I was wanting to see. You did a great job! Thank you. Like you, I’m leaning towards the Proton LT. I have one question. When wearing the Proton LT while taking a break from hiking or just sitting around having a beer , what would be the coolest temperature that this jacket would keep you feeling comfortable? I know this temp may be a bit different for every person, but wearing just a t-shirt under the Proton LT sitting in no wind conditions, what temperature range is the Proton LT best suited?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It will be different for each person but just being in a t-shirt and the proton I start to feel cold around 43 degrees if I’m not moving. You can have a wool base layer or even a light shell over the proton and you can probably take it a bit lower. Once I get into the 30s, I’m using this a mid layer rather then a stand alone
@bmurray3302 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a jacket between the Atom AR and Atom LT and was hoping the Proton fit the bill. I golf a lot but the side panels in the LT let in cold air at times, but your comment that the Proton is colder when standing still got me wondering. Great review though!
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Proton feels over all more breathable, but it is better at blocking wind the. Those side panels on that atom. For golf a proton with out a hood would be great imo
@boatengjr2 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. They are the best reviews I have seen on KZbin. If you have time can you please review the Atom AR vs Proton Lt. Thank you. Keep up the great reviews.
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Sounds good I’ll see if I can get my hand on one
@josephsantana30942 жыл бұрын
Still can't decide lol. Both have characteristics that appeal to me that the other one doesn't have. Might just have to buy one at random first and then buy the other one later on when I can afford it.
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
If you can make it to a store and try in person go for it. Otherwise through backcountry (link in description) they have a good 30 day return policy
@Spurgte9 ай бұрын
Buy the atom if you a warm breathable waterproof jacket Buy the proton if you want a insulated jacket for outdoor activity
@josephsantana30949 ай бұрын
@@Spurgte I ended up with the Atom, although I'm not sure where you're getting the waterproof part from.. It does have a dwr coating which provides mild water resistance but it is by no means waterproof or comparable in any way to an actual shell jacket that's designed to keep you dry.
@teddyrasputin3850 Жыл бұрын
Really nice, in depth comparison
@yhwanjo36212 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I agree with you, except for one thing. Proton LT is warmer. Coreloft 80g vs 60g and no side panel vs side panel where the wind blows in.
@maxstephan29762 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I'd love to get a comparison: Men's Rab Xenair Insulated Jacket vs arcteryx atom lt and Men's Xenair Insulated Jacket vs Proton LT. Many thanks!
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the suggestions. ill see if i can get my hands on those others.
@johntruongpictures2 жыл бұрын
The Proton LT Fortius Air 20 is not 40 denier, it’s the same as the Atom LT, which is 20 denier. Hence the name “Fortius Air 20”.
@qlfi3 жыл бұрын
Proton is my choice out of this two
@locoraindrops76533 жыл бұрын
My upper layers(sans base layers) consist of the Fortrez, the Proton LT, then the Alpha SV when things get fun.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great combo
@locoraindrops76533 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade people scoff at the price but my 1st SV lasted me 14yrs. I take care of my gear. While it looks as though it could walk & talk on it's own it is still waterproof. DWR jumped ship awhile back but I reapplied as necessary. I just replaced it with a 100D variation a short bit back. If you break down the cost per year it is cheaper than a Marmot Precip.
@diegom21573 жыл бұрын
great analysis...extremely well done...
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@zaneearldufour3 жыл бұрын
Ermagerd I'm loving your videos. If you ever do really cold weather camping (
@zaneearldufour3 жыл бұрын
And I know that 20F isn't that cold for some places, but it's cold for me here in SE Michigan
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
I got a few vids coming with the Cerium LT. I’ll look into the other two. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching
@mxthicalzz1621 Жыл бұрын
Which one is the better jacket, I’m stuck between the two 🤔
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
really it comes down to if you want fleece side panels or not. The proton is more technical and does not have the fleece side panels so that's the one I favored. Cant go wrong with either one though. The atom will be the cheaper option if you dont care about the side panels.
@mxthicalzz1621 Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade in England it’s the same price so this is why I ask this question, I mean I am leaning towards the proton but I just want to know I’m making the right choice. Thanks
@mesorottoercazzo1000 Жыл бұрын
Hi, What are the temperatures that you recommend for stay warm from standing still with the Proton LT? I'd use it for hiking and trekking, specially when I'm at the top and down of the mountain or during the walking without feeling cold. For these kind of uses is it good the Proton lt or would it be better a jacket like Patagonia Micro puff or Rab Cirrus Alpine or similar? Thanks
@thdjjfsfh3 жыл бұрын
I am now sure if Arcteryx ever publishes the reason for their zipper design, but I believe it's for one-hand operation. If you are belaying, it's super dangerous to let go of the brake hand. In my opinion, the proton is better for everything that I do outdoor, I think the only place the atom is better is in the city. It does not have a super technical look. I figured that Arcteryx was going to drop the atom LT but instead they added the proton FL. Proton FL vs Atom SL next?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Interesting probably one of the reasons for that zipper. I agree with you on the proton. Yeah I’ll look into those two soon
@bmd63432 жыл бұрын
Have you reviewed the Atom SL? Where does it fit in the mix? Keep up the great work!
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not yet. But I can put it in the to do list
@zj99286 ай бұрын
Proton LT is the choice
@thiccdddad75 Жыл бұрын
I’m confused, which is actually warmer? You said the Atom is warmer earlier in the video and later you said the side panels make it colder than the proton.
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
it depends if there is wind or not. if no wind the atom feels more warmer, if wind, it goes straight through the side panels of the atom, making me feel colder, and the proton does a better job blocking it.
@LetsDraw123 жыл бұрын
Personally the Proton LT didn't have the same level of comfort and fit compared to the Atom LT. Sooooo I kept the Atom LT, returned the Proton LT, and bought the Proton FL. Now I have the best of both worlds. The Proton FL for high output and the Atom LT for colder days around town.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s understandable. The proton has a very particular trim fit and it’s not for everyone. The atom is a tad looser and more accessible fit. How you liking the proton fl?
@LetsDraw123 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade It's amazing! The Proton FL is exactly what I was looking for as a breathable windbreaking shell! I pair it up with a Delta LT or Aptin and it's the perfect combo for intense mountaineering while still staying cool!
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@LetsDraw12 excellent I’ll have to try it out
@rampatra2 жыл бұрын
Such an expounded review. Thanks for making it. Btw, does the hoody in the Atom fold so that I can tuck it inside such that it looks like a jacket without a hoody?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Not really, it is a bulky hoody and will show if you do that and you will feel it against your back. If you want to do that i would suggest to just get the hood less version of it
@JohannOfArc2 жыл бұрын
Nice and on the point review🙌🏻
@orhancabarov3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. Thanks for watching
@graykaegi43973 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! One question, what color is the Proton? Is that Dynasty? Arcteryx does such a terrific job with color, but it's always difficult to discern on their website.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
yep its the dynasty
@sillytorque2 жыл бұрын
Would have been good to hear what actual practical situations and weather the jackets were used in or was this a hang around and look cool jacket test?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
Haha, well assumption is if you are considering these two, you already have narrowed down the situations you will be in for these. Plus they are mentioned. These are high output jackets that are breathable so any high output activities. These both have a basic dwr finish and are meant for light rain, Nothing more. The proton is more durable so is the better if you are climbing. Did you watch they whole vid?
@kevinrose14532 жыл бұрын
Thx for the add apriciate that. I am going to buy my first jacket and I am not sure what is the best for me. I would use it for all day spring and fall as stand alone. For a relaxed walk with the dog or also for a boulder session. I am between the proton lt hoody. Like the longer arms and the outside chest pocket. Or the atom lt. Also there is the atom leaf lt. It has the chest pocket too. But technically fabric is not the new 2020. Hope you can tell me maybe your own experience. Heard the proton is not so warm for relaxed walking cause of the great climate fabric. Or do you think it is warm enough for spring and fall also for all day use without being active? The atom lt would be my alternative l. Heard it is better for all day but I like the proton style more. So i found the leaf but it has no update to 2020 Thx so much Best regards kevin
@brandontom62302 жыл бұрын
Do you feel like the speed bumps on the proton are a bit more noticeable when you unzip the jacket than on the atom?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
They feel the same to me
@jaytee839 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Which one would you say is the more “stylish” option? Proton LT or Atom LT?
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
if your looking for style around town the atom is a good choise, the proton is a bit more technical
@DemolishNoobsPs32 жыл бұрын
Can either of these jackets be used as a mid layer underneath a Cerium LT or SL or would that not be recommended?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
That can but if you plan to do that I would size up on the cerium
@spotlight7612 жыл бұрын
The lining inside is nylon or "softer" like polartec alpha?
@nikitasolaya6973 жыл бұрын
Which one would be warmer, like a better mid layer for skiing
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
If they are used as a mid layer, they both are going to be similar in warmth. Proton will be a bit more breathable if used as a stand alone
@mxthicalzz1621 Жыл бұрын
Hey I’m wondering what jacket I should get, the Arcteryx proton LT or the Arcteryx proton FL
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
it depends on your activity and the temps. I would say anything 42 and higher go with the FL, but below that Id go with the LT. BTW the newest versions are confusioning in the names the Proton LT is now just the Proton, and the Proton FL is now the Proton Light
@mxthicalzz1621 Жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade damn, you’ve been a real help man keep it up much ❤️
@BackcountryRenegade Жыл бұрын
@@mxthicalzz1621 your welcome. Thanks for watching
@glu65672 жыл бұрын
Planning on using the proton lt for snowboarding with some layers underneath but nothing on top, do you think it is water repellent enough for snowy conditions? I’ll be snowboarding in NJ, Pa, and NY so snowy conditions aren’t too extreme, but occasionally I’ll be sitting in snow and falling in snow
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
I’d say it depends on the snow day. If it’s cold and fluffy Parton should be sufficient. But it’s it’s a slushy day then I’d go with a actually shell. Remember the only thing keeping this to repel water is the dwr coating
@frazze80972 жыл бұрын
can you use the atom lt for just an outer jacket for skiing?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
You could if you are in dry powdery snow, but if you are in wet I wouldn’t recommend it. The shell of the jacket only has a dwr finish to repel light water but would soak in eventually in wet melting snow
@TheLalaian3 жыл бұрын
Hi i am looking for a proton LT for snowboarding. I wear a small atom SL but wonder if a medium proton LT might be better size? (5’5 and 135lb) thank you!
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
I’d go with a small. I’m wearing a small here and I’m 5’7, 140 lbs. it offers enough room for a thermal underneath as well.
@TheLalaian3 жыл бұрын
Backcountry Renegade appreciate the insight! :)
@kevinstarski15983 жыл бұрын
Interesting how outdoorgearlab ranked Atom LT higher in breathability, but they may be in minority...
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
If they are doing it from the perspective of the side panels I can see their argument for that, but from my experience, that is the main breathable part. the front and back not so much when compared to the proton which is breathable all over. The proton has a more breathable shell as well. Therefore my conclusion is proton more breathable.
@thdjjfsfh3 жыл бұрын
When it's windy, the side fleece offer almost no warmth, so if they are in the high alpine where is almost always windy, I can see why they think so. Also the new proton is much more breathable then the old one. Not sure which one that tested.
@kevinstarski15983 жыл бұрын
@@thdjjfsfh Well, that's another problem. Who can tell newer vs older, none of them is marked at all on most clothing items, lot of time you're lucky you get a name of the jacket somewhere, but forget any versions 1 or 2.
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@thdjjfsfh yes exactly, that’s my main gripe with the atom
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@thdjjfsfh yep, I have both the newest models of each here. Proton is more breathable and the more technologically advanced jacket then the Atom
@amsterdamcreative Жыл бұрын
ATOM LT
@nana102213 жыл бұрын
Do you feel any fit differences between the two jackets?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Yes the proton is a bit trimmer fit
@TVinmyEye3 жыл бұрын
Review The Atom SL and The Proton FL 😁
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check them out
@unzengasfumes3 жыл бұрын
What size are you in the atom?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Both are small
@Scouseking3 жыл бұрын
What size are these and how tall are u
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
Both small and I’m 5’7
@Scouseking3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade is the arm length the same on these to or ?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@Scouseking it’s close but the arm length on the proton is slightly longer
@Scouseking3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade thanks I bought the atom LT in a large and medium and the M was to tight and the large the arms was well to big
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@Scouseking ah bummer, the longer arms are meant to allow you to climb and have enough material so your sleeves don’t come down when you reach up for holds. These are a bit more technical jackets so not for everyone and the Arcteryx fit is pretty trim, so from my experience, they either fit you great or they don’t.
@youngmc50402 жыл бұрын
Is one fit you bigger than the other one?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
No they were about the same. There is more arm material in the proton though to be better suited for climbing
@youngmc50402 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade thank you. Do you own the Atom AR as well?
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
@@youngmc5040 I do not but would love to get my hands on one
@arpeggiosfromhell6663 жыл бұрын
What color is the Proton LT?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
It’s the red one in the vid
@arpeggiosfromhell6663 жыл бұрын
I know, but what specific colorway? Dynasty? Sambal? Thanks
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@arpeggiosfromhell666 it’s the Dynasty
@arpeggiosfromhell6663 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade Gorgeous color! Thank you for the review!
@user-rt6np5mw2b3 жыл бұрын
How tall and weight you r? Relay hard to choose my size lol~ Thanks~
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’7, 140 lbs
@user-rt6np5mw2b3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade same like me So the size S can wear hoody underneath ?
@BackcountryRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rt6np5mw2b if it’s a thin hoodie yes. I can wear my merino wool base layer. My thin north face polar tech L2 hoodie, then one of these jackets over those.
@user-rt6np5mw2b3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryRenegade thx! Your request is really clearly!!! Now!All I need to do----subscribe:)
@KingKeta Жыл бұрын
you can pack the Arc’teryx jacket in your pocket, it’s even smaller than the Patagonia
@ralphthut53182 жыл бұрын
Stop it with the hoodies.... You don't layer with hoodies Under shells..Unless you want that annoying hunchback... Ridiculous..
@BackcountryRenegade2 жыл бұрын
🤣. Just get the hoodless version. Easy solution. Most of these I use as standalone so prefer the hood