Arc'teryx - GORE-TEX Wash Tutorial

[@arcteryx]

If you're not reapplying DWR, you can just hang your jacket to dry. The DWR spray needs a heat source to set in, so a hairdryer will do if you don't have a clothes dryer.

[@CCumming1000]

omg hahaha been looking for that information for hours

[@jar.n0]

@@CCumming1000and there it was, in a 11 year old comment 🤝

[@MrLeiduowen]

OK, now where do I find a laundry in a forest to start with?

[@seanmalloy7361]

West Virginia lawns...

[@arcteryx]

Great questions, thanks. GORE-TEX is a 3-layer fabric with a membrane between the face and the back layers. This membrane is the waterproof aspect of all GORE-TEX fabrics, and it facilitates the breathability of the garment. This membrane, though, is not abrasion resistant and needs a durable face fabric for protection. Without the DWR coating, the face fabric would absorb water, thus limiting breathability. Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any follow-up questions.

[@SoundOfYourDestiny]

Aren't there two-layer Gore-Tex garments? I have a late-'80s shell that wasn't all that expensive, and I've been assuming it's two-layer.

[@moozooh]

There are. I have an older Mountain Equipment (you know, that weirdly named British company) Gore-Tex jacket which doesn't have a bottom fabric layer leaving the soft rubbery membrane pretty much completely exposed; there's a thin nylon liner on the inside, but it's a large-hole net weave detached from the main fabric, so it's only really there to shield it from some direct contact abrasion and not much else. The membrane eventually gave out on the shoulders around the neck-most likely abraded thanks to the pressure from backpack straps. It can still shield from wind, light drizzle and dry snow but has been rendered useless otherwise. Now if only Arcteryx would distribute its Alpha FL better... Despite being such a critical darling it's surprisingly hard to get a hold of! The current model doesn't seem to exist in Moscow in any colors other than Flare red (and even then not in every size), and I haven't found any stores in Tallinn that would carry the brand at all. There are only a few sellers on Amazon that carry the combination of color black size M, and none seem to ship outside the US. What a goddamn pain.

[@arcteryx]

Air-drying is fine. The heat is needed to help the DWR treatment set in.

[@benbork8757]

Will Air drying negatively affect the dwr treatment?

[@arcteryx]

Not a stupid question at all. Apply the DWR once you take the jacket out of the washer and it's still wet. Then put it in the dryer so that the heat can help the DWR set into the fabric.

[@davidzukal6718]

what if I dont have a dryer please???

[@Mark_N]

@@davidzukal6718 Use a hairdryer?

[@brycegauw9275]

@@davidzukal6718 hairdryer, homie.

[@FrenchPrinceofBel-Air]

thank you

[@slurrping_noisee]

can i apply the grangers DWR if the jacket isnt wet and hasnt been washed?

[@arcteryx]

Hi Brett. We don't recommend using wash-in treatments on our jackets, and instead prefer spray-on reproofers because they give you more control, and can set into the fabric nicely in the dryer.

[@petermentes63]

Such an important point to maintain your gear. Doesn’t get as much coverage as it should. Thank you for the excellent video

[@borasumer]

Fun fact: they are more expensive than the laundry machine...

[@TheSubieFan]

Got an alpha for 100$ in the garage sale section

[@christopherkline4042]

Mmmm… nice try!! The value is totally there! 😁

[@huzairrashid7716]

buy second hand

[@kickyouinhalf]

That depends if your laundry machine is a simple washboard.

[@cristobalbalenciaga7295]

You can find washing machines for under 140?

[@arcteryx]

Good question. You can re-apply DWR on any piece that originally has it. For example, have a look at the "Features" tab of the Atom LT page. We wouldn't recommend applying DWR to a jacket like the Hyllus.

[@williamcarswell2483]

No dwr spray needed for me, I'm just rocking arcy for goreflex purposes only.

[@FlareLightPro]

fuck im going to start saying that now! XD

[@conqwiztadore2213]

you should be flexing lululemon instead, bitches love that shit

[@emilemborg7682]

Relatable

[@brycegauw9275]

@@conqwiztadore2213 why not both

[@arcteryx]

As we say in the video, we recommend a performance wash such as Granger's.

[@charlesmurphy2964]

To everyone who questions the process involved...you bought the best jacket/garment made. Why is everyone second guessing the process of waterproofing after use? They are not selling their own product to re waterproof. I don't get it. Just to be clear, I am a customer/user. 1. FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS 2. IT WORKS And just for those who don't believe with the 2 step process...........the products they recommend work for all garments.

[@arcteryx]

Sure thing. You just need a source of heat for the DWR to set in.

[@arcteryx]

Good question. You just need some kind of heat source for the treatment to set in. After you wash your jacket, put it up on a hanger, spray the DWR, and apply heat with a hair dryer.

[@TimDH0252]

What is the maximum heat you can apply? I think my jacket got to hot in the dryer. It has slightly rimpled texture now. Not maxed out smooth as when i first got it.

[@OneOfMany07]

Thanks for the info! I'd suggest explaining the idea that "washing rarely" was thought to be good, from an assumption of wear and tear happening mostly from washing. Whereas now I think it's assumed the layers get damaged from the dirt itself (and product use with that dirt on it), and removing the dirt is important to keeping those layers from getting damaged.

[@hanweiwu2288]

This is some great video quality from 10 years ago.

[@twsmith6]

Caution with this, particularly with jackets that are a few years old. Be sure to run on a cooler setting for the dryer, running it on normal ruined mine.

[@dgato5397]

What do you mean it ruined yours?

[@joddo1991]

@@dgato5397 fade perhaps?

[@snackyxchan]

@@joddo1991 I would say adhesives failing, coming off around drawstrings, labels etc

[@onzbrau]

Careful! The tumble dryer has the potential to ruin a lot of clothing, especially GoreTex jackets. Based on a similar video, I put my $400 GTX snowboard jacket in the tumble dryer on the lowest setting, inside a cotton laundry sack for added protection, and it came out deformed/shrunken. It was Burton, and their customer service was AMAZING enough to give me a full replacement even though the jacket was 2 years old, because their website advised to use the tumble dryer in their care instructions.

[@akirat11]

Well if you had your jacket for two years, and were tumble drying it with no problem, then something else you did different obviously happened that ruined the jacket.

[@eranorion]

@@akirat11 coulda been the first cleaning/drying??

[@MechanixPL]

Very informative video. Finally someone's exploded all the myths about Gore-Tex washing I've read about on forums. I, too, use Granger's cleaner and proofer, but the one that comes in a bottle not in spray. I air-dry my jacket though--don't own a dryer. Thanks for the video.

[@arcteryx]

Hi Sebastian, you can try using a stronger detergent (something like OxiClean) and washing your jacket several times.

[@alexandrucovaliov8989]

wow.. all this time I was washing my jacket wrong. Thanks for the short and informative video. Especially when I'm to going to buy a Zeta LT soon.

[@MSato123]

Do you have to put it in the dryer? Can you just hang it up and let it dry naturally?

[@misterfunnybones]

I suggest wash by hand, rinse with hose, immerse in clean water, then spend 10 minutes getting all the water out of the pockets; it's no picnic. Hang dry to remove most water & empty the pockets again, then tumble to try reactivating the dwr. If the jacket is wetting out more often, then retreat with a spray or wash-in dwr. Don't expect miracles: the secret to happiness is low expectations.

[@arcteryx]

Luckily, we've found that people who buy our gear are very, very smart ;-)

[@johns.1940]

These smart people that you speak of.....How are you measuring their intelligence? By the fact that they hold jobs that provide the financial freedom to afford an $800 jacket that cost easily less than $50 to make? Just curious

[@mesteru]

@@johns.1940 hah, you've obviously never owned a business since you have no idea what goes into the price of an item. Ever wondered why you pay 10 euros in a restaurant for a 3 euro dish? Anyway, arc'teryx jackets most common activities require run around the 200-500 euro mark. Let's take a proton LT as example. It costs around 210 euros in stores here during winter sale. It may seem like a lot of money, but considering its characteristics, it's well worth its price compared to cheaper options. The only thing I'm glad of is that they have a competitor, Patagonia, which has controlled the prices somewhat (similar jackets have similar prices between these two, here). Alas, if someone needs something more expensive for extreme activities, those people usually don't complain about prices.

[@brycegauw9275]

@@johns.1940 don't be broke then.

[@johns.1940]

@@mesteru I definitely understand what goes into bringing a product from concept all the way through manufacturing. I also understand that some of these companies spend more on marketing than they do on manufacturing or R&D. doesn't make their product any better than one that cost 25% of the cost. You're paying for a lifestyle when you buy Arc' teryx, in return you get a decent overpriced jacket. You know it and I know. Don't play coy.

[@navschulman4295]

yes , but now since music "rappers " have started wearing the clothes the IQ level drops when that fan base is introduced. It will come in full circle though in the end .

[@arcteryx]

That shouldn't happen Brett. If a piece does tighten slightly straight out of the dryer, it will loosen right back up with a bit of wear. A hot dryer on GORE-TEX fabrics, in fact, will help revive their water resistance.

[@sashaboskovic9682]

put your arc teryx jacket and pants on, and hope in the shower. Works every time

[@pedrobrazon6610]

nice, i've been wondering how to apply DWR coating on my Arc'teryx keppel coat, i wear that thing almost 24/7

[@g0bi]

Read the fine print on Arcterys page. If you just follow these advice as i did you will not have any warranty on you jacket. I used a liquid detergent, and washed it when it was dirty but that was not enough for Arcteryx service rep.

[@AdrienHartmann]

Epic video ! ALL manufacturer should do video like this !!

[@northaunt]

what if I don't have a dryer? Can I just leave the gore-tex jacket hanged in my room to dry after wash ? And when to use the DWR spray? After or before it gets dry or during the drying process when not using the dryer?

[@arcteryx]

If you're not reapplying DWR spray, you can let the jacket hang-dry. You just need some kind of heat source for the DWR treatment to set in - but that could be a something as simple as a hair dryer. Just make sure to apply the DWR while the garment is still wet - water helps it bond to the fabric.

[@northaunt]

thanks.

[@Cumulo9]

what if I don't have a hair dryer either and the temperature is low and humidity is moist in the room?

[@highercloudproductions7494]

some dwr's dont need heat activation

[@josephshmoe1647]

What if I bought a $625 jacket, but I can't afford a $20 hair dryer or a trip to the laundromat?

[@bryanthorson5315]

Thanks for the video. I definitely learned a couple of good tips.

[@GORETEXBrand]

Thanks for this easy and good tutorial!

[@JT-wq9gz]

GORE-TEX Brand we love you!!!!!!!!!! Been wearing Gore-Tex based items since I was a child. I actually gave Arc’teryx products a chance because they was smart enough to use your materials.

[@joeykujawski]

Love ya Gore-Flex ❤️

[@rmschindler144]

I have found that using a dryer will wear down (melt?) the taped seams and thus significantly reduce the life of your jacket.

[@filippobistaffa5913]

Welcome to the club, I ruined my jacket in the same way. Lesson learned: never use a dryer. In fact, the official Goretex video on washing garments just tells you "hang it"

[@luthfinurarifadi3451]

Great video..one more question..if I have a goretex jacket with its insulation, for ex. Primaloft, can I still put my jacket in the dryer?

[@arcteryx]

It's pretty straightforward, just follow the instructions in the CARE section on this page: arcteryx.com/product.aspx?model=Atom-SV-Hoody

[@akaredcrossbow]

Arc'teryx hello, what wash detergent do you recommend and what spray DWR do you recommend to reproof a Beta SV jacket. Should I use nikwax tech wash to wash it? Thank You

[@prometeochile]

hi! Good video! I love my atom but it has some stains in the flap that covers the zipper under the chin. I already washed it with cold water and it didnt come out. Should I hand wash it again before mashine-Washing?

[@adolfogallardoklein4737]

Really good video, thumbs up for Arc'teryx!

[@prowler13prowler]

How do you remove greasy and oil stains from one of your hardshell jackets (sabre lt)? Besides regular washing is there anything else to apply to a stain to remove it?

[@Duc.3D]

Which DWR spray was used? Granger's Performance Repel Waterproofing Spray?

[@FinancialCharles]

If you need to retreat, should I dry in dryer first AND THEN spray and re dry? Or do I spray it right after the washing machine and dry after spraying?

[@darkforestshadows]

I have never washed or treated my gore-tex shells and can still roll around in the muck. I have 3 layered gore-tex outers and asumme this is why they have held out the weather so well?

[@beepbeep1213]

my experience is that you can't wash or dry these jackets. the glue came undone in about 8 months and it was no longer waterproof about 6 months into light casual use.

[@_christianlowe]

Fantastic! Worked perfectly

[@gabriel.hongkong]

Quick question. I take my washed jacket out, apply the DWR while it's still wet, then put it in the dryer. When I take it out of the dryer, do I spray the DWR one more time and dry it off one more time?

[@marceldesigns8814]

did you get an answer for this?

[@keilcarpenter2144]

The Gore-Tex site says to close all the zippers: "Before laundering your garment, zip the front closure, pockets and pit zips completely,"

[@cvbnm4657]

This video says to keep your pocket zippers open, but the video by Gore-Tex says to close them. Which is the right way, or does it even make a big difference?

[@jussa101]

I always just close all my pockets. With the big ones you don't want your jacket flopping around and potentially catching something or ruining the inside. You could open the small ones if you want to, if you really abuse them and think they may be dirty on the inside. I've left some open in my jackets never had issues. It's more important to make sure you have nothing in them and that the big ones are closed.

[@sjoerdkampinga3854]

Hello Arc'teryx, I saw this video: Arc'teryx - GORE-TEX Wash Tutorial And I was wondering which kind of jacket that is? Can you please tell me? Because I love the color!! Thanks!

[@vessvilenova276]

Thank you! Can we skip the dryer and hang the garments to dry naturally.

[@MadelnMachines]

And after all that they'll say you washed it incorrectly and deny your warranty claim anyway when it bubbles and delaminates after a few months use.

[@filippobistaffa5913]

Yep, happened to me as well.

[@nicolasaliaga7741]

I assume this is a Gore Tex pro shell, recommendations for paclite or active?

[@akirat11]

So you don’t have to dry your jacket if your not using DWR? Good to know. What about when using a performance wash detergent like, granger, do you still need to double rinse?

[@Magnifico963]

How does the warm-cold wash program specify the water temperature in degrees?

[@jamesdavis5096]

Why did you not address to not use Liquid detergent I thought you were only supposed to use powder detergent on Gore-Tex

[@guyarchard422]

You’ve got this the wrong way round

[@crazysection]

I wear the LEAF alpha jacket and pants hunting, it gets blood on the arms and legs, how often should I wash the blood off if the jacket is still waterproof, Im hunting at least once a week so it means I currently wash the jacket once a week, am I overdoing it, will leaving dried in blood on the items damage them ?

[@jamiejuly03]

Good! May I have another question. If my wash machine does not support the warm wash. Does granger's clearner still work ? thanks.

[@dola7234]

I just bought a new arc’terix snowboard jacket and I got oil stains dripping from the lift How can I clean it?! Thanks for any info

[@TallysVids]

I was wondering if you could tell me if a hair drier would be ok instead of a tumble drier (as I don't have a tumble drier)? The DWR product I am thinking of using on the Beta AR is Grangers Performance Repel Plus (which is their spray on proofer that mentions its for Gore-Tex). This particular product mentions that it activates with air drying and doesn't require heat to activate. But Grangers do say applying heat after spraying the product on will make the product bond to the fibres in the best possible way and to make the Performance Repel Plus that I had just applied more durable. Leading on from this, would I need to hair dry the jacket until it was dry to the touch. Or would a blast over the jacket for a couple/few minutes be enough heat to have to product bond to the fibres of the jacket? Thanks.

[@rosswalker8177]

Did you end up using the Grangers Performance Repel Plus? How was it?

[@TallysVids]

@@rosswalker8177 After the lack of a reply on here. I emailed Arc'teryx and got lots of useful information. Some of which Arc'teryx recommended me to contact Grangers about. I did indeed purchase the Grangers Performance Repel Plus, and it provided excellent results, and definitely better performing than the wash in proofer I used to use on my previous jackets. We don't have a tumble drier in our household, and on recommendation from watching a Grangers video where they say that if you don't have a tumble drier (to make the product bond to the fibres better) a hair drier will do pretty much the same. I applied the Grangers Performance Repel Plus to my jacket after it had stopped dripping on the washing line. I let it completely dry. After that I spent around 10 minutes going over the whole jacket slowly with a hair drier. After doing this, the jacket was beading water like it was brand new. A very impressive product and a really good suggestion about using the hair direr (if you don't have a tumble drier).

[@kendalldewey4941]

The fabric should be wet before you retreat your gore Tex or any other waterproof breathable garment. Applying DWR treatment to a dry fabric will have minimal impact.

[@travellogus]

Am I able to hang up the jacket to dry in the sun/wind?

[@victoriaunger5475]

What about food stains, possibly hot sauce? should I pretreat and if so with what?

[@tomlives]

I know that you recommend Granger's, I used it on other products and it's good, but would you object to an aerosol based product, like Holmenkol Hightec Proof, being used on your product? I live in Hokkaido, Japan, where nobody has driers, but Holmenkol states that it doesn't need heat to fix its waterproofing, they also say that it's okay for use on Gore-tex, but I'd like your advice, please. Thanx!

[@jayj.manalo2271]

I want to do my insulating atom jacket and beta shell. Do I have to wash and dry them separately or can they be thrown in the washer and dryer together?

[@mikev7132]

You must have a very long extension cord to bring your washer and dryer out into the woods like that.

[@boardrigger]

The camera is literally on his back porch. City folks...

[@dylanjones6217]

Do I apply the DWR while the jacket is still wet from cleaning or do I need to dry the jacket first before applying?

[@arcteryx]

We just choose to work with excellent materials - and if you wash your jackets on a regular basis, they'll last even longer.

[@WillmaticNYC]

Is this process unique to Arc'teryx Jackets? Can I follow these instructions for non Arc'teryx Gore-Tex jackets? Thanks!

[@jussa101]

Pretty much yes most jackets with a membrane should be washed in a tech wash. And then spray a dwr on 'em. The drying etc is the only thing that will differ between jackets.

[@RynaxAlien]

What is DWR composition, wax dissolved in fast evaporating solvent? Maybe that stuff can be homemade.

[@jussa101]

Dwr uses peri-flouro carbons. Longer chains are more repellant and last longer but it's a problem for the environment. I think companies like patagonia use smaller chain don't know about arcteryx

[@ereemeyer5566]

Question: I have an Arc'teryx down jacket AND a regular shell jacket that I need to wash/treat. Can I safely use the down formula Grangers solution on the non-down Arc'teryx jacket?

[@kirkjamesss8879]

I cant use nikwax tech wash/tx direct wash in for my beta ar(2016)?

[@daniellinggi5945]

Is this for all jackets, expect for down jackets?

[@back2theunderground]

I spend a lot of extended periods in the mountains , out in Asia where I do not have access to a washing machine. My last trip was several years long. I’ve purchased Arc’teryx gear since 2001. How would you suggest treating and washing your gore products in such conditions?

[@cipritom]

As you can see, there are washing machines out in the wild. Try hunting one :) /s

[@jerrywright932]

The nikwax tech wash has hand wash instructions on the bottle

[@oneandonlyjaybee]

Can you just hang-dry it? I've had a goretex jacket delaminate and shrink on the lowest setting before. I'd be nervous about putting such an expensive item in there

[@virgintiger1]

When we don't have a dryer only a hairdryer, Can the dryer be the air?

[@redgrana]

Ha! I got my Alpha dirty but I didn't want to wash it, scared to loose life time on the jacket. Good to know that is the other way!

[@server1ok]

If you wash the jacket 5000 times in a row it's going to break, but 1 time ( when dirty ) is a very normal thing to do, if for no other reason the jacket will stink and stain other clothes and furniture.

[@taseajohn4424]

Hi How would I remove oil stain from my alpha? Thanks

[@arcteryx]

Hi John, To remove grease from a GORE-TEX garment, dampen the stain and then rub the stained area with Grangers Performance Wash, Fibertec Pro Wash or ReviveX Synthetic Fabric Cleaner diluted with 3 parts water (dishwashing detergent can also be used with fair results). After this rewash the jacket as per the steps in the video. Please give the experts on our customer service team a call should you have further questions! Cheers.

[@P.willow]

Ur Mike is all fluffy did u wash that in the forest washing machine.

[@xueyingchen1254]

Hi! How should I remove blood stains from a goretex jacket? I tried some stain remover but they didn’t work and made the stains even more noticeable. Thanks!

[@shelonnik274]

Consult on this with the nearest police officer

[@findmads]

How do you get stains off a Goretex Jacket? ...this part you didnt mention anything

[@plutocuteguy]

wait...i dunno if this is a stupid question im confused do i dry it first then spray it with the DWR then put it back in the dryer or do i just shake the water off then spray it then put it in the dryer?

[@itsrando3923]

Should i wash my arcteryx jacket alone or is it okay with other dark wash items?

[@noiseeboy415]

Is the same care for the USA jacket

[@ricecraker]

Does the same go for down pieces as well? I'm thinking specifically the Therme Parka.

[@hillsonn]

I only have a washing machine, not a dryer. How would you recommend I go about drying my jacket? Thanks!

[@estebanmoreno9971]

Same process for snowboard pants ?

[@Flavio-cv5cw]

thx u very much i love this guide

[@ripperx444]

I bought nik wax down wash I'm assuming do the same thing and reproof if need be

[@bretthunter6428]

So if i was using nikwax, would i wash it with the tech wash, then wash it with the tx direct washin in, then put it in the dryer. what are the benefits of using a spray on vs a wash in?

[@sebastianfogh2381]

Does this medhold work for Fjallraven keb eco Shell jacket too?

[@QDGC]

Should i hang dry my goretex?

[@MechanixPL]

I'm not sure about that. Maybe ArcteryxEquipmentInc can help with a comment.

[@pudlah]

how do i wash arc'teryx palisade pants?

[@TheZamendo]

Is this process the same also for arcteryx gore-tex xcr please?

[@alessandrodamario3319]

please someone tell me the name of the music used?

[@universalgermanautoinc4232]

If the DWR is worn off will the jacket still be water proof?

[@arcteryx]

No, water may soak into the Jacket. Best to wash the jacket and reapply the DWR as instructed!

[@universalgermanautoinc4232]

Thank you!

[@VisinskiRadoviBeograd]

@@arcteryx What does that mean? If the water "soak" into the jacket then what? Don't you find it important to explain? Is the outer layer damaged by washing and how?

[@omarmuhyar2005]

It'll still keep you dry if it has a waterproof membrane, but the face fabric will start to soak up moisture- leaving you feeling clammy inside, as internal sweat won't be able to properly evacuate.

[@Omgggitstim]

@@omarmuhyar2005 lol 'evacuate'

[@matony19]

if we dont have a dryer?

[@AntoineThisdale]

Anyone has information about front-load washing machines? (Safe, Granger-variation that is "HE"?).

[@shippalrus]

is it bad to air-dry the jacket? assuming no treatment after washing

[@sepposepisto]

What is the temperature in Celsius? 40 C? What does normal speed mean? 800 RPM?

[@ALexpWTFISTHAT]

Just go according to the settings on your washing machine. Should be universal on almost all machines.

[@sepposepisto]

ALexpWTFISTHAT The temperature options in my washing machine are 30 °C, 40 °C, 50 °C, etc. which I consider more universal than COLD, WARM, HOT.

[@sepposepisto]

Found the washing instructions from the pocket and it says 40 °C so that's what I'm going to use.

[@MichaelPham-t8s]

Why you keep close all zippers, except pocket zipper?

[@slurrping_noisee]

so inside of the pocket can be washed

[@deesion]

Really a good tutorial.

[@05loganc]

HOW ON EARTH DO YO GET THE WIRELESS WASHERS, MY TENT HAS NO RUNNING WATER