Ardenn/Rebbec vs Thrasios/Vial vs Tatyova vs Winota | CEDH Gameplay

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[@DarkEinherjar]

Narrator: "Village Bell-Ringer triggers and Mike untaps all of his creatures." Hushwing Gryff: "Shut up, narrator."

[@DarkEinherjar]

@@abuelovinagres4411 I never know which one of them is the narrator, as I don't watch their raw gameplay videos and I'm not familiar with their voices. :P

[@FFF813]

The amount of counter spells used on Charles really makes you see mono white in a different light

[@JonathanHecht]

charle's deck was pretty sweet, im glad to see monowhite being appreciated in cedh

[@DarkEinherjar]

Folger knows how Murphy's law works. If he had taken his chances, Vial Smasher WOULD have murdered him.

[@adalwulf435]

But luck favors the bold!

[@curtisfarley6558]

folger probably had win in had for several turns. the only other blue deck was tatyova. these guys make content, not highlight the highest tier cedh

[@GatitaLindaRawr]

On turn 3, Mike didn't fail to find on the 2nd trigger. He only had one trigger because the Canonist is a human and doesn't trigger Winota.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Editing error!

[@sanctus9770]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Oops just commented with this question myself, glad it got cleared up. I was so confused spending like 15min thinking Eathersworn had some hidden combination with Winota to get around the Non-Human trigger or something lmao.

[@elischrader8882]

"Zack has the perfect answer Pongify"

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I've been really impressed by the power of the hatebear beatdown decks in CEDH, they seem like they can really compete with the blue-based combo decks and are also really fun to watch.

[@0ghma_]

Today I learned that Walk the Aeons is a *targeted* extra turn spell, and is thus capable of being redirected from under your nose...

[@Quroe_]

It's pretty interesting to see EDH begin as a battle cruiser format. Then evolve into a noncreature format. Then re-volve back into a battle cruiser format.

[@NubRusty]

Ironic that folger is using a "dont feed the fish" playmat while getting fed for 3 turns

[@itsnotpharris]

Considering my friend's vial smasher has a "deal damage to target matheus" written on it i would overload that cyclonic Rift without even thinking

[@Litt1eFishy]

I always get a warm and fuzzy feeling whenever I here that intro music. I love your content, keep it up!!!!!

[@Kazz1187]

Agreed! I was hyped when I heard the music in other mediums as well

[@CeltiesSin]

Winota is really interesting. When she was first spoiled I was just like “eh” but she makes real good showings in KZbin gameplays. I might have to look a bit more into her

[@jacobjensen7704]

As a mainly Boros player, I can tell you that she is not only the most powerful Boros commander out there, but is single-handedly responsible for making Boros cEDH viable. Before Winota, it was pretty fringe in cEDH.

[@jonathandixson1424]

@@jacobjensen7704 She also seems very good for budget cedh

[@Sn00gans]

Look up ComedIAN's cEDH videos; he has a really sweet Winota Stax deck. It was my first (and still favourite) cEDH deck.

[@dreamwriter8423]

Not a fan of the build here but I play her in edh rather than CEDH, so aggro builds are more viable. She's also broken as a 99 in many decks. I like to have her in my najeela.

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

Some tough battling there. This video just shows that cEDH is not what everyone thinks it is all the time . Yes the turn 4 or less wins do happen often but this was 13 slugging turns and was great.

[@MstrKipper]

Perfect I needed something to watch with breakfast : )

[@dustinpalmer]

Cool seeing a deck with commanders I haven’t seen played before.

[@SenorCoupon]

Just wanted to mention that the linked deck list for Thrasios/Vial Smasher is 97 cards + 2 commanders for a total of 99 instead of 100. Didn't know if that was an oversight in the build or a transpositional error in writing the list. Love the content as always, thanks for another upload!

[@willbegaming2455]

Good game guys, still love watching you guys play

[@HaddockHazard]

Perfect for watching during lunch break

[@alecpogson7585]

I love how the narrator acts like fetching a basic land is the best play in the world and then has very little reaction to sword of feast and famine! Great content PWP, seriously though.

[@meliquidlightning]

I'm truly happy of seeing a monowhite deck! Please use it more often, I would like to make it just as is, nevertheless please play it more in upcoming videos, to see if it's worth it! :D

[@Yirmir_2.0]

I seriously love this content, it’s what got me into edh! In this video, I have to say I think the most valuable card should have gone to Tatyova. Yeah, Winona did win the game, but the only reason Zach was able to stay in that long was because Tatyova kept drawing and gaining. Is that a good assumption to make?Still, another awesome match, and I may or may not be planing a Tatyova deck now.

[@RageofVaddix]

Best deflecting swat ever! Wow!

[@MrGreenixx]

Always love me some more Winota shenaningans, with future goblin / human support the deck has always potential to get even better

[@tavernadoeogan0187]

Very Nice gameplay! tks guys

[@Muundruid]

Did everyone forget about Thalia tax ALL game?

[@chocolateking1143]

lol yes

[@Krisaber]

Probably the most entertaining game so far in 2021

[@sheet4u]

And they always shamed me for playing boros... pft, who's the loser now! :D

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

I definitely had some awesome experiences learning boros and white in cEDH, can thank Charles for a lot of that! -Mike

[@kallinblackburn717]

Unfortunately it’s probably still you bud😂

[@ForeverGazette]

REPRESENT REBBEC. As a hardcore Vorthos individual that was amazing to see. Also I have never in my life considered building a Simic EDH deck but Tatyova may just be the Simic deck for me. PS: Those Mana Crypts did some damage WORK in this showdown

[@raleldor]

Gamble is Red Entomb like 75% of the time... lol

[@oORoOFLOo]

"Dockside math challenge" haha

[@StackedEDH]

What a slugfest! Love it.

[@delasvegas9644]

I'm always happy to see winota. Also, 16:30 , I'd've taken my chance. It's only a 1out of 3 chance

[@argonnas2]

Aethersworn is a human

[@BarbeChenue]

Yeah, this is a pretty big illegal play there. I mean, the whole downside of Winota is that you need a mix of humans and non-humans in the deck. I can't fathom how he missed that part.

[@chaoswarhound]

@@BarbeChenue Easy, this shit happens. Especially when recording or streaming, but in any game of magic there's often so much to keep track of that stuff like this is easy to miss.

[@ottertvmtg6229]

yeah, he even played it off of a winota trigger

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Magic is hard. Sometimes you look at the art on a card an assume it's a certain creature type. It helps to keep the game from slowing to a crawl when you double check everything. Unfortunately this happens from time to time.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Did Mike get a flip off Ethersworn? I'm almost positive I didn't actually flip any cards off it attacking, I think that was an error in editing. (Mike here)

[@briantheboss6124]

Mike, I feel your pain of gambling only to discard what you tutored for 😔

[@forerealz]

That's the errata text for Gamble.

[@milesstevenson1858]

Dependent on whether its possible(mana/opportunity constraints allowing) , you can tutor for a tutor, so that you dont entomb the card you actually want if you gdt unlucky

[@addambarcelos]

That game was intense. Winota still pretty good ^^

[@AwesomeAustinPowrz]

Also shoutout to Charles for a spicy Mono white build

[@justtheinstinct4893]

Imma just yoink that extra turn real quick

[@__-nd5qi]

That red entomb lmao

[@michaellooks8397]

LET'S GOOOOOOO

[@IceForPvMGaming]

that deflecting swat *chefs kiss*

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

I held it for SO LONG!! Was awesome getting the max value from it.

[@CharlotteMimic]

Winota has serious Najeela vibes

[@soundsliketough8294]

Winota is also perfect for Samurai tribal (or semi tribal based on how you look at it). Just sayin 👀

[@snorri0411]

someone called in the Deflecting SWAT Team...

[@Layjus123]

Now you know why she's named WINota.

[@uriahatkinson2103]

GG everyone...u take extra turns...no I take your turn lol...keep up the good fight

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

Oof that missed bell ringer trigger

[@Rocjhead118]

Laying the beats with white stax decks. XD

[@ramensobatv]

How did the ethersworn canonist trigger winota? It’s a human cleric. Unless I’m missing something. Someone please enlighten me, I recently just brewed winota.

[@toms.5075]

4:37 I think there was a misplay on the Winota triggers, Etherswon Canonist is a human which means it shouldn't proc Winota and the 2nd trigger which was a fail to find shouldn't have happened. Unless I'm missing something on board which removes human creature type. On a related note Moggcatcher is listed as a human mercenary on gatherer, they just haven't updated the image or reprinted it.

[@TheTennisballs97]

I was thinking the same thing. Thought I was going mad.

[@jakubvondrejc7022]

At 4:40, I suspect there was only 1 Winota trigger as Ethersworn Canonist is a human and therefore can't cause a trigger to happen. Not sure if it's just in the narration or it happened in the game too, as you said nothing was found :)

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Was just in the narration. Oopsie!

[@sanctus9770]

At 4:37 in the video please explain how Winota triggers twice? Eathersworn Canonist is a Human...so?

[@zachariahzagerv9038]

I'd slam the overloaded cyc rift so hard! XD

[@metallicwind]

"And then fails to find..." poor Winita failed to find like 10 times this game lmao, thats such a bummer

[@Mtglilypads]

4:30 Mike shud only get 1 trigger with winota. The ethersworn is the exact human he got last turn

[@mandielyn0416]

My playgroup has lost two of its members due to relocation. Could anyone point me in a good direction in how to go about finding a new playgroup?

[@isaacsoong1621]

15:55 a more reasonable player would Rift and gain life through Deathrite Shaman, but its better to meme it and use Shaman's lose 2 life ability and hopefully live through it or die from it

[@koanos2448]

17:35 Even if the spell is countered, does Teshar's ability still trigger?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yes. It’s an on cast trigger.

[@purrfectwaffle8621]

4:34 why does Winota trigger off Canonist’s attack? It’s a human.

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

17:34 Doesn't Charles get a second Teshar trigger from the lightning greaves? Or did he have nothing else in his yard? When he cast Cursed Totem, he could have used the Teshar trigger to at least get back the Greaves.

[@PhoenixRNH]

Teshar returns creatures

[@rasmusandersen2835]

i think tatyova is really underrated

[@marchodges5310]

Tell me, why did Winota trigger twice when Mogg Fanatic and Eathersworn Canonist attacked? Eathersworn is a human.

[@pefp2008]

Nice match! Good to not watching 4 grixis decks

[@georgesonofgeorge3771]

If hold the rift and let the DICE ROLL

[@Bob-fe8qn]

Y’all should play a cedh game where you have a no search in your library’s emblem active at all Times

[@andrewmckenna4276]

Doesn’t look like Folger paid the Thalia tax for Okobat 7:15. Rip Charles

[@khurgar8120]

Am I not understanding something about Winota? Surely the winota trigger does not go on the stack when Aethersworn Cannonist attacks, since its a human?

[@khurgar8120]

nvm I just read another comment about it :P

[@BLTwinity]

rules question: cursed totem was still on the field, yes? then neither arbor elf's nor deathrite shaman's abilities should have been able to activate

[@bradenskaggs5350]

Cyc rift bounced it?

[@BLTwinity]

@@bradenskaggs5350 I'm dum dum, watchd that way to late at night

[@666Metalbassist]

thalia was ignored quite a bit in this game.

[@ryanjohnstone9097]

Who altered Mike's Mana Crypt? It looks pretty sick.

[@morgoth2425]

probably a proxy

[@keldack4391]

Anyone else see the miss play on reality shift targeting a creature with pro blue from sword equip

[@Xcapitano]

Why wily goblin in winota? Im trying to find a combo on internet and found nothing yet.

[@3kojimbles895]

non human cheap

[@JerichoWall]

Mike, getting a Winota trigger from a Human Cleric? Cheat count: 1?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Nope. Editing error.

[@eightbitblitz5868]

Wait, why didn't zack buyback the walk the aeons? They could have recast it next turn to continue with the plan

[@mazereon]

Why didn't Mike crack his Jewelled Lotus turn 1 for his commander? I assume he didn't want to put a target on his head or couldn't get value out of her but that two colour 4 CMC commander with a Lotus in your opening hand is like the best case scenario for that card.

[@Apocryphax64]

She doesn't trigger herself. He played it in a way where he could trigger her on turn 2.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

What Apo said. Also didn’t want to feed the fish. Mana crypt was worth it for turn 2 winota and future mana.

[@mazereon]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG fair enough. Thanks guys!

[@DerronOfCairon]

Why the heck did Zack not have spell interaction to protect his spells lmao. Feels like he constantly had 7 cards in hand.

[@AquarialDeloAtlantis]

archon of emeria stopped him from casting more than one spell per turn.

[@Yuppitsvic]

I wanna see a winota game again but without her being mis played lol one of the best boros commanders

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

What misplays?

[@Yuppitsvic]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG winota only activates when a non human attacks and she finds a human during the game she was activated when humans attacked

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

@@Yuppitsvic that was an error in editing, not gameplay.

[@Yuppitsvic]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG ah I see my bad still a great video

[@AwesomeAustinPowrz]

If I was Folger I would have used the Cyclonic rift. But instead of holding his mana up until that turn he should have been using Thrasios triggers.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Cursed Totem prevented that.

[@hi_its_jodie]

I'm new to magic and I know what EDH is, but what's CEDH?

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

competitive edh, very high power commander decks

[@pokeyclawz8727]

What was the ruling mike had to look up? The zealous conscripts taking oko seemed pretty cut and dry to me

[@aeolus7762]

Probably the -5 for Oko, seeing how the wording works for exchanging.

[@signisakanades1329]

My guess is if the creatures attacking Oko would still be attacking Oko (They aren't).

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

The attacking Ruling.

[@aftonlagrandeur5777]

Can we see another no ban list cedh game??? That would be dope

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It’s one of our patron goals!

[@cristianprado8559]

just curious as to why Folger doesn't use dual lands in his deck... personal choice? doesn't like to use proxies? 🤔 great content as always

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

He doesn't proxy and only plays with cards he owns. It's a personal choice.

[@Skydrawill48]

Shouldn’t Winota not trigger on Canonist’ attack?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It didn’t. Editing error.

[@xandervanhorn3857]

Is there such thing as a competitive Reaper King deck?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

No but you can use Rite of Replication on reaper king to create 25 ETB effects and destroy 25 permanents.

[@Cybershroom]

4:37, how does Winota trigger twice?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

She doesn't. It was an editing mistake.

[@some_hippies]

The unga bunga back at it again bby hell yeah

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

I will singlehandedly force the PWP meta into an unga bunga meta. -Mike

[@RokuJonne]

Canonist is a human so Winota does not trigger off of it? Or did i miss something?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Editing mistake.

[@thiamendes]

In 04:37, why Winota triggers twice if Ethersworn Canonist is a Human?

[@shirosilverost2542]

I'd like to know that too, but it might've not really matter since he whiffed on the second trigger anyway

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Winota triggered once. Folger says "double winota trigger" which caused an editing error.

[@thiamendes]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG thanks for answering! I love the videos

[@overbeing]

Couldn't Folger of used deathrite to gain life and then use cyc rift later? he had the mana do to both so y not wait on it?

[@Isaac-qq5yk]

He couldn't activate creature abilities due to cursed totem.

[@harithoney5691]

At 4:33, why are there 2 winota triggers? Ethersworn Canonist is a human and shouldn't trigger winota. Luckily he failed to find with that trigger.

[@bradenskaggs5350]

Editing error

[@uriahatkinson2103]

Can we see tans and sigar from legends

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

I thought Folger left. You made a whole video about it.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Garrett

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG ah, thanks.

[@koanos2448]

4:40 Wait, isn't Aethersworn Canonist a Human?

[@morgoth2425]

editing error

[@tednihilus7438]

"the red entomb" lmfao

[@craigfernandez4433]

Vial smasher is doing damage at random. Did Folger really get that unlucky with smasher’s triggers?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yes. We have a raw gameplay available to patrons that shows this happening :)

[@ElGatix123]

Question... Why winota triggered when the canonist attacked?? She is a human

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It was an error in editing, not gameplay.

[@ElGatix123]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG oh I see

[@th4n4s1s]

So, did Mike lose any mana crypt triggers? xD He won the vast majority of them. If triggers resolved 50-50 he would probably be dead.

[@crazykhespar8487]

16:27 Classic situation in multi-player control, having to discern the point of inflection where you move from controlling to trying to win and conflating not losing and winning. Your primary goal as a control deck is NOT LOSING, its an immediate and constant goal/threat. In this situation, every time the correct response is to fire off your Cyclonic Rift. The boardstate threat is fine and you can stabilize, but the on-cast trigger is not a surface area you can combat adequately. It only being a 33% chance to hit you is negligible- It will happen eventually regardless of planning. Delaying dice rolls with your life naturally extends it. Another thing to consider is Drannith would likely be replayed ASAP, locking Zack down (No Tatyova = no draws = less threat for a couple turns), this eliminates some inherent negative CA incurred by needing to respect opponents options, as you have completely reset one player's goals and added multiple obstacles. Mike then becomes the primary threat, and Winota is the cost reducer, kinda sucks to have so many things you cannot recast easily in hand. Some are tutors, though, so again, Mike would be the primary threat. If you can interact and stop Mike from replaying Winota until the Drannith hits, you're fine rebuilding for several turns. Gives you time for a HP buffer and to advance your boardstate immensely while opponents try to get through what is at best a time walk for them.

[@gabrielportilho273]

GG wp, very good game! I think I'm in the right place to ask for help or a list of rhys, the redeemed totally optimized to play in my playgroup that has evolved to a cedh level, fuck. I put 2 tokens on the turn 2 table and they are practically ready for comb, I have played against green and green / white selvala, gitrog and tassa combos consultation, help me

[@miguela.hamouic.8759]

Blast zone every 3cmc on dmg

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

He would have had to respond to Winota's trigger. Once the trigger resolves, there isn't a point where he can activate blast zone.