Daretti vs Yidris vs Selvala vs Kenrith | CEDH Gameplay

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[@benjamincarter6095]

Favorite moment: When Ryan windmill slams chicken pot pie onto the the battlefield

[@djnewellmit]

I feel like Kenrith's ability "target player draws a card" was highly relevant at a specific point.

[@Magnivore519]

We weren't keeping extremely close watch on the amount of mana so the 'draw yourselves out' was the logistically safer option. Obviously in any other setting it would have been much more important.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

@@4Asphalt4 That would be Adam you're responding to there ;)

[@snarglblargn4986]

Isochron/reversal enables him to force everyone to draw their entire library

[@MstrKipper]

@@snarglblargn4986 He wouldn't have anything to imprint to iso, but there was definitely something in the deck for him to generate infinite Mana as opposed to a technically finate amount of Mana, which would have been the obvious play if this was a tournament or something

[@snarglblargn4986]

@@MstrKipper i guess i took "at some point" as not this game set. But typically, if Kenrith is forcing the draw out, he has isochrom/reversal to enable infinite mana. Not the case in this set.

[@P3RDT0]

3:48 Ryan played the most realistic Food Token I've ever seen.

[@seanmurphy3430]

Discarding your Gamble target when you have like 40 cards in hand is the mother of all bad beats.

[@hokeyrulz26]

Gave me flashbacks to when paradox engine was legal. Had a buddy on Kess and gambled for Paradox with 43 cards in hand post ad naus and I sniped it

[@nathanparker8555]

Didn't actually matter here right, cause of escape? Still funny!

[@seanmurphy3430]

​@@nathanparker8555 True. Gamble is, as always, red Entomb. Still really funny how it worked out.

[@marsiumouse]

Half the deck in Adam's hand, and gamble is still a red entomb : ^)

[@jaredsmith6565]

*SPOILERS* What a steal by Zack! Not sure why Adam didn't activate Kenny though. Between this and one of the last episodes its really showing why Praters grasp is soooo strong.

[@Magnivore519]

We weren't keeping extremely close watch on the amount of mana so the 'draw yourselves out' was the logistically safer option. Obviously in any other setting it would have been much more important.

[@Slyguy46]

Honestly, the most valuable card in the first game might be Rolling Earthquake to kill all the dorks, slowing the game down.

[@5ManaAndADream]

most valuable card was definitely kenrith the returned king and his 4th ability in game 1.

[@MindLaboratory]

Everyone: pfffttt! mono green stompy in CEDH? Everyone: gets mono green stomped

[@Leonardodeboni0406]

I dont like infinite but i like mono green só i dont know what tô think about it

[@galahadtg7884]

Whatever ryan was eating at 3:49 looked really good

[@splitthesoulgaming7431]

If only the kenrith player had a way to make everyone draw a card...

[@lucarr1041]

Using Magus to get around the City of Traitors clause is one of the underrated big plays in the first game

[@noah4d278]

Pyro's selvala deck is my favorite deck that I have seen on the show so far.

[@ThePossibilityStorm]

THE PLAYS. That first one was wild.

[@bgeda]

Probably one of the best pairs of matches I’ve seen in a minute guys, really great games to watch.

[@benjaminking3677]

That Craterhoof line was sick! I didn’t know you could abuse Selvala to make your creatures infinitely big.

[@MWBowen403]

Thank you Pyro for making mono decks look powerful! Charles as well for playing mono white. Hats off

[@skyarcher04]

hey guys, remember that one time ryan put a plate of sausage gravy and biscuits on his nice mat and ancestral visions?

[@teamf6920]

Yall notice that Ryan had chicken and dumplings on screen for a couple seconds? 😂

[@felipeguidolin1055]

That madman, putting a full bowl of chowder on top of a few thousand dollars of cardboard!!!!

[@HellfireDraco]

I'm so happy to see Daretti on here, also that play by Zack was epic!

[@Fdragon1337]

Man Breach sure is fun lmao. Pyro just fucking styling on everyone in game 2 was disgusting and amazing.

[@jgmclellan]

Stellar games! Loved the ending lines in the first game, you guys are so good!

[@FullRoy2326]

Am I the only one who likes the video about halfway through, and then goes to do it again at the end of the video but is unable to because the video is already liked? I love your content PWP :D

[@DarkEinherjar]

3:48 Ryan casts the spell "DINNER"

[@anthonypritt6528]

I love that gamble reads I red mana discard a card you tutor for

[@karolkurzawa3246]

Great games. I like how 1st game ended, nice plot twist. Props for all for not playing the fish! Keep up good work.

[@zanderwoods5434]

6:20 Adam plays Peer into the Abyss, and at 33 life, half (rounding up) of that would be 17, yet he pays 16 life. Fortunately, that one life point was not relevant, but I just wanted to point that out. Who knows maybe it was an editing side mistake.

[@takamikakusha]

Another sweet addition I recently made to my selvala deck is avoid fate. Great protection for your combo pieces.

[@felipecodes]

Loved all the spice on this one. Sad for my boy Yidris but I'm happy to see variety on the format. If we start looking at only 200 out of tens of thousands of cards as our pool deck building just dies and we lose one of the best aspects of magic as a whole and EDH in particular. Keep the new stuff coming and as always great content 💙

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Spoilers: Zack: Call an ambulance, call an ambulance! ...But not for me!

[@Kokonutzlz]

Not that it matters but in the final turn, Selvala, Temur Sabretooth, and TYE was already infinite mana

[@ModAnonMTG]

Sheesh what a couple of games! Pyro's selvala deck is so spicy

[@Bcdeano]

We'd like to thank the Harlem Globetrotters for an excellent game 2 win

[@Lvl10CPU]

Man, that was a crazy game 1! Well done to the winner!

[@trashbat999]

i don’t envy the position you guys have been put in by the anti thoracle crowd. it’s obvious you’re going out of your way to avoid playing the card and now you’ll probably get roasted for that. good games though keep em coming

[@gabrieltwinwithulm7466]

there’s an anti thoracle crowd?

[@trashbat999]

@@gabrieltwinwithulm7466 yes. people got upset when they saw oracle winning too many games. in cedh. on a cedh channel.

[@nickrichie517]

@@trashbat999 well thats just dumb. thoracle is one of if not the best line in cedh.

[@daringplays3966]

That selvala deck is so sweet, I need to make one eventually.

[@tylercraig5633]

Great games guys!! Y’all even make mono red look amazingly fun to play

[@ADudeWhoExperiences1393]

I love mono red, 3 decks so far!

[@tylercraig5633]

@@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 I wanna make one eventually but I just don’t know what kind of deck fits my play style

[@ADudeWhoExperiences1393]

@@tylercraig5633 I've made torbraan mono red prison, Neheb the eternal infinite combats (plus just playing big and splashy), and Krenko Kombos. The First two are pretty casual, with a stacks like approach in torbraan and a battle cruiser vibe in neheb while Krenko is actually pretty competitive with many fast mana turn 5 or less winning combos. So mono red has a lot of exploratory space depending on play preference! I've looked at birgi storm as well and rionya (I think thats her name...) tokens + etb

[@delasvegas9644]

That first game was insane! I did not see that coming

[@takamikakusha]

Definitely need to add the ashaya + quirion/scryb ranger combo to my deck, I mostly use hyrax tower scout + kogla or sabertooth + great oak guardian as the creature combos. I also like blightsteel as an alternative to the eldrazi, it doesn’t shuffle back other stuff but one shotting people with infect is a nice upside.

[@oORoOFLOo]

Dastardly deviant duel of DERANGED DEBAUCHERY?! Well, congratulations to Ryan for winning that, I guess.

[@DanTomY93]

Sick video, as always! Question: What's the music that plays over the recap/stats screen? It's familiar, but I just can't place it!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Discarding the card you Gambled for in a 40+ hand... that hurts

[@delasvegas9644]

That selvala deck is amazing

[@lari5875]

That Gamble tho 😑🤣 Great games!

[@StackedEDH]

Loved both games.

[@Quroe_]

I think the spiciest play was Magus of the Mooning your own City of Traitors to use it like a normal land.

[@archnebulawordsmith458]

Love the stuff! Can we see some Jhoira of the Ghitu eldrazi fun stuff someday?

[@ryantame]

Awesome games!

[@wilfulbuckle13]

These two games are why I love CEDH.

[@robsta6543]

Great games looked fun

[@draken882000]

7:15 . It's at this moment that Adam knew....he F$&ed up.

[@MTG_Ronin]

The turn 1 dork wipe made me spit out my beer

[@ViolenciaJibarita]

We need selvala primer, seems like the funnest cedh deck I've seen in a while

[@one_bad_mofo8658]

When I saw the infinite mill combo going off I'm like gg. Then Daretti steps in like a true goblin going "no brain? No problem! I gotcha homie" *steals win*

[@uphillwalrus5164]

Do you guys record multiple games with the same couple of patrons in one sitting or are these games all from separate instances? Not complaining, just curious

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

These were from the same night. We plan a few hours to play games, and sometimes we end up with multiple quick games so we choose the best ones.

[@stevenlorenzo6540]

It’s games like this that make me feel my Selvala ( which is built very similarly) can hold its own in cEDH pod. Yes, you can win a cEDH game through combat!

[@loganhoppe7234]

this is the second video where he's played it and it was never removed. if people completely ignore selvala every single game, its a wonder this keeps happening.

[@LC-wv7tz]

Yeah. The first time they played he was completely ignored every game and just allowed to go off. Similarly in these games, no one ever tried to remove it. It's like none of these decks play any interaction at all. No counters, no spot removal, no silences, not even bounce spells or dress down. Just 0 interaction solitaire decks. When that's the case and everyone is playing solitaire decks everyone is just driving a race car and the game is decided by who draws enough gas. Not to rag on them too hard, but what they've shown lately shows this group plays extremely light on interaction. Everyone kind of just ignores everyone else and is playing their own mini game.

[@thetimebinder]

I win 90% of my games with Najeela through combat.

[@agrape2887]

Oh my God that daretti win was saucy

[@cgsninja7]

69,420 is now my new favorite number. Well done mono red

[@orsettomorbido]

All of them HAHAHAHAHA What a great pair of games!

[@intonight9564]

Nice

[@Jordansayegh10]

Me seeing the plate of food made my day ty

[@noahsmith2390]

I think the Selvala decklist is slightly different than the one Pyro used. On the posted list, there is no Kozilek or Thought-knot Seer. Is there any chance you could update it? Great games as always!

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

We will look into it!

[@Sinasappelsaus]

There is also no quirion ranger in the deck list. Also the umbral mantle is missing. I would love to build this deck so i also would love theccorrect deck list from Pyro :)

[@manhattanblockade8544]

Zack pulled off a pro gamer move

[@ChrisLovesComics]

That earthquake!

[@RyuKakei]

Was curious when Adam use praetor grasp on pyro. Does veil stop grasp? I tot it give u n permenant hexproof. Not library

[@Spartan_Mello]

I absolutely love Yidris and have made him my own cEDH commander. Really wish we could have seen more of what that deck could really do 😕

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It just ended up not being fast enough. First game got shut out by Blood Moon. Second match Selvala won too quickly.

[@Spartan_Mello]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I have had to cut some of the more flashy cards to add more ramp pieces. Still a ton of fun once it goes off!

[@jaydub5515]

69,420 counters on Ballista... Nice...

[@briantjokroadiguno4566]

I think Pyro alrd have infinite mana bouncing selvala via temur sabertooth and reactivating her over and over again without the need of ashaya+quirion.

[@johnb3427]

If bolas’s citadel make the playing field (from the Kenrith player list) where do you go with that? I get the reducer effects and a top infinite draw combo but that is not part of Kenrith or included. Just pay life and keep going? My thoughts are if you hit a land you can not “play” more than one per turn with this deck style and can not get past that card now ??

[@thetimebinder]

You use Sensei's Divining Top with Bolas House to draw your deck / cast whatever you want.

[@johnb3427]

@@thetimebinder I mentioned that above - top infinite draw combo - but this list does NOT have a top in it? Thus why I’m asking why citadels in here? It’s not really a value card by itself once you hit a 2nd land for turn it’s overrrrr

[@johnbaird6752]

Oh my goodness I adore Daretti so freaking much

[@pj3259]

I want to play you guys with my Zada and or Lavinia deck…. but to be a patron i would have to stop buying magic cards for awhile… 😅

[@mtgamatuerhour3147]

Oooooooh shiiit double game episode 🤯🤯

[@JonathanHecht]

i wonder why Adam doesn't run thassa's oracle in his deck, he has the breach combo and we saw how the titans were a problem so he could have win on the spot

[@adamglenen734]

Never played against Selvala personally, but it seems like a really strong list

[@andreychar1235]

I like, how City of traitors turn 1 never leaves the battlefield. Who needs sacrifice triggers xD

[@crazygermn]

It was a mountain while the other lands were played.

[@Argetbrisingr101]

Does pyros deck have a primer?

[@lorenz2391]

so surprising that the mono colored decks won. especially RED!

[@michaelkinsella9473]

He shouldn’t have (probably) since city pf traitors was played wrong

[@danwilson9522]

Might have been the smallest Dockside I've seen cast before

[@sakaven]

Pyro YES.... YESSSSSSSSSS greeeeen

[@bradevans6283]

Anyone know what playmat Adam is using?

[@redrum704928]

3:49 food

[@ianwentz6617]

I love Selvala so much!

[@rebelofjustice]

at 12:14 Pyro had no mana to activate selvela after activating Elixir

[@ADudeWhoExperiences1393]

Nice catch, could have completely changed how the game went since Zack had a huge lead too. 3 lands at start of turn, 1 for dreadnought, one to activate selvala (leaving one land open), 12 floating. 10 for devastator, 2 floating plus 1 land. After cascades and draws, casts elixir (should be at 0 mana?), then proceeds to activate elixir and selvala being at -2 mana? Pretty sure thats how it ends up, but could have missed something.

[@pyro1581]

Hey guys! To clear up any confusion, I had two floating from Dreadnought and burned 10 into Apex Devastator. I use the two floating and Birds of Paradise to cast Thousand Year Elixir, then use the untapped forest to tap it. It’s easy to miss, but at the 12:10 mark, you’ll see on the right I exiled Elvish Spirit Guide from my hand for the green mana needed to retap Selvala. It wasn’t stated in the commentary.

[@ADudeWhoExperiences1393]

@@pyro1581 ah I see, thanks for the clarification! Nice games and congrats on your win! Love mono colored decks!

[@TheRensvind]

In the second game why did Pyro get the ranger? Was the reason for getting Ranger in case someone had a counterspell and he didn't want this commander countered?

[@splitthesoulgaming7431]

Quirion ranger is a combo piece. It made him able to generate infinite mana

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Tons of cards in hand and missed the infinite line in play, I think. Didn't end up making a difference though!

[@briantjokroadiguno4566]

it's a common combo with ashaya, since it's a forest and can return itself

[@thesxex]

see this is the kind of fun, wacky stuff that can happen when thoracle isn't the wincon

[@Vagrantlol]

I think this game might be evidence Underworld Breach was and is a way bigger problem card than a bunch of other things on the ban list

[@intendemowe9115]

6:19 Peer into the abyss makes you lose half your life rounded up, so Adam should have 16 and Not 17 life.

[@ADudeWhoExperiences1393]

Doesn't really make a difference though....

[@zacharypellerin8411]

Mystic Remora's cascade trigger would have still happened as it is a cast trigger from his commander.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

He didn’t connect with it, so cascade wouldn’t happen.

[@blakem000]

Pyro: Are you in Beloit? I live 20 minutes away? Do you do events at AA?

[@pyro1581]

Yeah, I’m around the area. I use Cataclysm deck sleeves in my Shabraz Game, too.

[@drorian]

in game 1 couldn't adam play led 3 times more and make his opponents draw with kenrith after millin them?

[@Trolologram]

“He escapes ballista for x=69,420”. Nice

[@Tobeykinz]

Zack kept city of traitors even though he had played multiple lands, and on turn 3 when he casted daretti, he should have taken 2 from ancient tomb, since that is the only way he could have afforded to cast him

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Blood moon was out. They were mountains

[@Tobeykinz]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG you’re right. It was I, who was the baboon.

[@headsik]

That city or traitors misplay is a strong one.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Blood moon was out

[@griffstv8520]

Not sure if it was noticed but he played the ancient tomb while the city of traitors was on the field and he didnt sack but no idea if that would of changed the game much.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Magus of the moon was out.

[@coconutgun4390]

Didn't play thassa's oracle when kenrith milled himself out?

[@sPontus]

Probably cut it due to all the wierd oracle hate in the comments

[@TripsAhoy]

69 thousand 420 lol. Awesome.

[@SoulofMusic666]

Another "magic is hard" moment: That^ is not how cascade works. all the spells go on the stack at the same time, in the order they are cast, THEN resolve. not individually as the cascades happen. Food for thought for next time :)

[@loganhoppe7234]

This is not correct. The way they resolved it is correct. 702.85c If a spell has multiple instances of cascade, each triggers separately.(Cascade Rules Text) Each instance of cascade triggers and resolves separately. The spell you cast due to the first cascade ability will go on the stack on top of the second, third, and fourth cascade abilities. That spell will resolve before you exile cards for the second cascade ability. The spell you cast for the second will resolve before you exile cards for the third, and so on.(Rules from Apex Devastator specifically)

[@matiasgimenez1397]

Zack didn't sacrificed CoT when played the first mountain.

[@bestregards9672]

someone care to explain to me how the kenrith player had enough cards in his graveyard to exile to mill everyone out? so, hes storming with LED but I cant see how that equates to enough cards/cast to mill everyone

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

The storm count increases with every cast.

[@s4ad0wpi]

And THAT, my friends is why you... err... spoilers btw... . . . . . . . That's why you just escape a Thassa's Oracle, rather than trying to make your opponents mill out!