Are 12v TV's Really the Best Option for Full Time Van Life? 4 Different Screens Compared!

[@johnmandy]

Good to know it’s not just us that don’t watch live tv anymore. Good vid mate 👍🏼😎

[@wanderingbox7971]

#DefundtheBBC

[@mcharrisment4765]

Such a down to earth open , honest and cool bloke. If I knew you I know you would be a great friend of mine. Keep well my bro and keep those videos coming 👍👏

[@ian_morg]

I've got a cheap s/h 19" Logik TV which uses a 240v-12v adaptor to use at home. As it's then 12v without it I wired it directly to my leisure system. I use an August magnetic aerial for normal TV, a Chromecast for Netflix/KZbin etc which runs off my phone hotspot with unlimited internet. I also plug in a Nintendo classic mini NES for retro gaming using a 12v-5v usb adaptor. The TV has been in my van for a couple of years now and still works fine and seems to be ok with having 12-14v powering it.

[@kingsknightuk]

Nice to see someone who loves their tablet as much as I do. I'm exactly the same as you. I use my tablet for most things and I've got a great 30,000mah power bank which can fully charge from dead in 2.5 hours from the wall. So I always charge it up when I go for a coffee lol I only need to charge it up once a week and I watch movies every night!

[@jaxboet]

For those that have laptops on their vans I find this the best lower power option for watching live terrestrial TV. See links for stubby antennae you mentioned in your video (brilliant little aerial) and best (priciest) HD TV receiver USB dongle. ( other cheaper dongle s are available but often it's the accompaning software that let's them down) rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F333011118873 And rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F263946221776

[@janewheatley5105]

Totally love your videos.... you are making my impending transition to van life less daunting.x

[@finglasunited9989]

Me too

[@deanwood2332]

im not a full time camper but i do have about 14 weeks a year away in my motor home and when i get away i dont watch any tv or movies . i just like the peace n quiet . great content by the way

[@pauleastham2177]

Love the channel. My 2004 Ducato van came with a really old heavy analogue 14" TV & a separate sat tuner. I've had no success with the terrestrial aerial, but I do use the roof top Sat dish. The old setup was VERY power hungry, so I replaced it with a modern 21" motorhome TV from Aldi for £130, it even fits in the same cupboard. This is a 1080 HD TV with built in Terrestrial & Sat tuners, DVD, HDMI & USB. It uses hardly any power in comparison to the old one. I use it mainly on Sat, as the tuning isn't regional compared to terrestrial, but Sat has problems with trees, rain & wind - the dish can work like a sail and rock the van on windy nights. I've transferred some DVDs to USB and the HDMI means I can plug in my netbook for hotspot Netflix / iplayer / 4od / itv hub . 5 player sessions. The TV can spin for viewing from the lounge to dinette and upper bunk. I also have a 12hour tablet for watching outside.

[@themasterofdisguise]

Hi Darren, going thru some old vids of yours, proving super advice for when i get my van and start my vanlife.......anyway....just get yourself a dodgy stick for £75 a year mines got everything on it so saves a fortune in subs costs

[@daamills2011]

When I saw bad boys I knew I needed to finish watching this review. And I'm glad. Great info

[@garyvandweller6959]

iPad Pro for my tv, flip down monitor for Xbox. Sometimes I use my phone for KZbin on those hard to sleep nights👍

[@robrichards3528]

I have a 12 vault tv in my van, never used it yet had the vehicle 🚗 for a year ! have a 12 inch I pad tablet and that does the job for all my viewing needs as you say portable goes everywhere etc, catch up news on BBC I player, to be honest not missed a tv, always have a charged up power bank with me @ all times for sure, keep em coming Darren👍

[@johngoochy1432]

Great vlog Darren, really good info to see what the power consumption is of the various devices.

[@CuzzyWuzzy]

Another great Vlog dude ! Very much enjoyed. We are in the final stages of our conversion build. We are out this weekend testing things out. So far we have used an older iPad 4 and a Bluetooth speaker. Both great on battery. Watched a film last night for 2 hours on about 75% brightness and used 25% battery, it was nice to have decent audio with the separate speaker.... which i can highly recommend. It’s a Get Together Mini by Marley, it’s excellent and an environmentally friendly option👍🏻. Enjoying watching every vlog keep up the good work !!!

[@TravellingBox]

Hey Darren. I know this is a year old now so you probably know by now but I also prefer a tablet for entertainment and won’t have a tv in my van. August do a tv aeriel receiver thingy (August 405) that links to an app on your phone or tablet and then gives you the option of live tv on your tablet. It’s quite cheap at approx £30 and does mean that you can watch the bbc news at 6 🤣🤣 for free. The receiver has a battery that lasts a few hours and can be plugged into a power bank if necessary. I literally love it. Ps. Last scan also brought up some adult channels so I’ll not be letting my son loose in it lol

[@p24hrsmith]

I use a Chinese Phablet ( a Phablet is a Tablet with mobile phone built in) it cost me £49 5 years ago and battery life is amazing with a good 6 hours of video. Although it will still run Netflix and so on and the 3g streams video fine I have just brought a new one cost £99 with Android 9 and 4g

[@theangrygingerthebananavan4207]

12v TV with built in DVD retail around £125-£135 for 23inch Sound quality isn’t fantastic but can play through a Speaker. I use my Bose Soundlink which I already had. Necvox Magmount aerial is absolutely brilliant and my experience is that if I’m in an area when I can’t pick up any channels I’m not getting any Mobile data either.

[@WildernessAdventuresUK]

Nice video buddy, been thinking of getting a TV for the trailer for night time and those bloody days when it don't stop raining.. This has made me decide to look at other options.. Maybe a huge tablet... Hope you're well pal

[@kevinhughes9801]

Great video very insightful thanks for sharing!

[@Pugwash.]

If it's crap weather or late at night, we'll watch TV on a very lightweight laptop. I've got a thin Asus US305C that needs 45W to charge but reckons it'll run for over 6 hours in power saving mode. I've got a DC voltage converter ready to set up and charge straight from 12V too. If this runs flat my wife has an iPad and netflix, paid-for advert-free ITV hub and 4od.

[@edenfieldwarrior]

Hey up Sithee. Well for us we carry an AVTEX thing around with us. It’s been here, there and everywhere. But, when we have used it it is good. As others say though, we can see what we really really want to watch on the MacBook Air. Great VLOG. Have a good weekend.

[@tmc9313]

Darren I agree with the power consumption of a tablet, but I like my 12v tv/dvd/sat combo it takes a bit of power but not as much as you think. My tv was bought within the last six months and probably has better consumption than an older tv you have, I have a sat dish and home made tripod and only takes me a couple of minutes to set up. I buy dvd's from charity shops for next to nothing and enjoy watching box sets in bad weather. Only have three hundred watt's of solar and a good size battery bank and have run my chinese desiel heater at the same time as tv and never drop below 12.6v. Good video Thanks

[@druss841]

Hi Darren tablets are amazing do so much i sware by my ipad the battery easy lasts 10hrs of viewing videos on streaming sites

[@davethompson6726]

Thanks Darren simple but honest approach from your personal use of tech in the van like you we got similar tech to see Freeview and subscription channels in our caravan but we’re hooked up to power but I always check power consumptions just looking at your safefill gas videos going to buy a cylinder thanks Portable projector is the word We watch Netflix amazon prime freeview tv plus we have a android box and old firestick and yes we do manage to go for long walks as well its like you said have a few options if you get poor reception all tech also transfers at home as well. Ta Dave

[@petemgw413]

Just ordered a Chromebook thanks to you recommendation, cheers Darran 😁......... It came early! You are right, it's really good!

[@AllSeeingEye91]

I think the rechargeable LED battery powered / solar tv's are a fantastic option. No need to plug in to any mains. Also great if your a gamer ps4/xbox. You can pick a 22"-32" for under £200 👍.

[@bluesp4rks116]

Oculus VR headset. Not always the most comfortable and only good for individual viewing...but a virtual 100 inch Netflix screen! Might even manage some VR games in the van with the Quest (or lots of bruises)

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Never tried VR, I might have too one day haha

[@tonysutton6559]

Don't forget that you can watch digital tv through your aerial by using a dongle on your laptop or tablet. I prefer to watch live TV on an 18 inch 12/230 volt Freeview TV which cost me about £110. It has a built in battery which lasts about 4 hours and I charge it while on the move. It also has SD, USB and HDMI and can record one channel while watching another. My tablet is my go to choice for films, internet, etc or watching in bed. That also gets charged on the move.

[@TheOffgridNomadUK]

P.s love the screenshot of your chromebook showing sex education 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jonnypickett2546]

Cheers chap, v helpful. I was about to get me a 12v tv for my van.. BTW, as someone who wears glasses, please go into specsavers or somewhere and get yer goggles adjusted so you don't have to keep pushing them up all the time.. It will change your life, promise ya :0)

[@dkphill2]

get a 240v led tv that has a power brick. look on back of tv youll most likely see that it runs off 19v, get a 12v to 19v converter, cut the power cord after the brick, connect the fitting to the converter, now you no longer need a power inverter or have any losses along the way. a 50w 43 inch led tv with 19v will consume around 63w... your welcome

[@TrotterDel]

Nice one Darren. I finally found a place for the Avtex, in the wardrobe in the house. Best place for it. For the little amount of tv I do watch. Laptop or iPad. Laptop gives a bigger screen. But that’s about it.👍

[@TheOffgridNomadUK]

Great vlog as iam at this stage in my overlander build iam thinking shall I fit a 12v tv ? I dont use my 12v tv in my camper at min as it's old and 65w so very power guzzling. What power rating is your 12v tv ?? I use mobile and chromebook but just damaged my touch screen so need to replace. I see 12v TVs around 18w -22w now and under £200 now for 24"

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Thanks mate, just checked the back of mine and it say 12v 2.5amps and its 30W....i thought mine way power hungry lol but if yours is 65w thats a monster haha Loving the new logo by the way mate 👍👍😀😀

[@TheOffgridNomadUK]

I gave a big new tv un storage I had on my narrow boat was thinking use that with inverter to start with and see how I get on I will have min 900w to play with

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Yeah why not, see how much you use it and go from there

[@wizardorlegend]

I bought a 24" 240v tv that’s 22watts, bought a 65watt 12v socket inverter for £18 off amazon. I do have to say don’t get an integrated dvd/tv if your just watching tv there is still wasted power going to the DVD player even if your not using it.

[@clarkspiemuncher24]

from my van life experience your good with a tablet phone and laptop as i tend to play music from phone via bluetooth speaker a movie on tablet and e mail and business stuff on a laptop

[@doobiedootwo3517]

Brilliant Video again, another advantage of tablet and chromebook is that, if you have netflix or amazon video you can download films or programs when you have internet signal, and then play later whether you have internet signal or not 👍

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Yeah spot on, I forgot about that! Nice one mate

[@JoeProDecor]

I think the best option unfortunately is having both a 12v tv for when hooked up, and a 2 in 1 laptop for when off grid

[@SMITHYSKONTIKI]

Great video as usual Darren still working out buying dji mini for £30 lol with the wifexxx

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN]

I have a 14" TV 12v 18 Watts and never use it. It's the same type you have there just a different sticker as far as I can remember, an aerial came with it £69.99 Chromebook flip 10 hours streaming movies, at least mine does anyway, heavier and less portable than a tablet. Tablet a little less power hungry than a large Chromebook but smaller screen. Sometimes I think I may have preferred a tablet over the Chromebook but I do like the keyboard and bigger screen plus I can plug USB devices into it. Apps are more plentiful for an Android device though. As you say, different strokes for different folks 😂

[@swann4404]

I paid £150 for my 12v 240tv that USB records as well and I use fire stick with it. It dont take any power until I plug it in and watch it, then I plug it out when I have finished, you have to be mad to leave it on standby. Never leave it on stand by. For Info only, terrestrial digital tv is ariel, used to be terrestrial analogue, the other is satalite tv.

[@uptowndisco2]

my 12 volt TV / DVD player came from Aldi for £119 , keep an eye out there rather than paying over the odds buying from caravan places etc.

[@robcad1972]

Great video, Cello also do a range of 12v Tv's available on Amazon and a fraction of the price of Avtex.

[@wanderingbox7971]

Cello are quite good and made in UK too

[@aburaeese]

Hi, you said you can't plug a dvd into the chromebook, I bought an external dvd drive that I have connected to my chromebook, and it works fine. 👍

[@p24hrsmith]

just a tip when downloading movies/TV to watch later on a tablet don't download full hd even if your tablet is full 1080 hd because the higher the resolution the more power it takes to process it 720 is good 480 is acceptable quality on a small screen

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Good tip! thanks mate

[@swann4404]

For me watching dramas and films got to be TV then tablet and then laptop. TV only goes on at night after 7pm till about 11.30pm and the tablets, and laptops charged during the day off solar, never no power issues. I steer clear of inverters, all 12v.

[@alexwill1314]

What I found is always use a 12v NOT a 240v through an inverter. During winter months or very dull spells make sure if you are using lighting make sure they are LED When you have finished viewing make sure you unplug your set never leave it on standby. There are some cheaper 12v TVs than Avtex and they are OK only costing £150 ish however you do get what you pay for

[@jesshowe4591]

Hello most people search KZbin for information. And well done this is a good one should get a lot of views I watched you a few times and now I'm subscribed and is thumbs up as usual.

[@ianofsjkartwork]

Great advice Darren........thanks for sharing

[@johnrob6882]

Great video mate keep it up 👍 love ur watch it nice

[@offgridselfteliant]

Let me help! Jensen 12 volt t.v. 7.5 amps = 90 watts! 1- 100 watt solar panel, 1-100 amp hour battery= t.v. for life! Your welcome!

[@ToonsterToonster]

I use a leadstar tv cost about £115 with a good portable Ariel cost about £40 ( but was go-outdoors with card etc) I get a great signal and with my tiny leisure battery will run forever, it got a built in battery which lasts about four hours in warm weather, a lot less if the van is cold though. I don’t use it much for testing purposes i think it uses way less power than the august tv you mentioned. it’s got a bigger screen also. It’s also got usb input and hdmi ( never used them though). I just use for news in the morning and a film or two at night unless it’s raining, then I use it way more. for youtube I just use my phone. For gaming which I rarely do I use a Nintendo switch. could I have more battery power .. yes, does it bother much .. no lol.

[@davidpiper3652]

I used a tablet and streamed off iPlayer etc. 12V tellys used too much juice. I did make a portable power pack to charge/power the tablet that I charged at work that took some of the stress of my (failing) leisure battery. Then I got a Honda generator ...

[@YorkshireHillbilly]

You could use a portable pc / laptop monitor like the 15.6” Asus ZenScreen. They do a battery version too. There’s cheaper alternatives like the 16” AOC but the viewing angles and picture quality aren’t as good. Pretty sure you can run these off the larger Anker type power packs.

[@Daveyengland]

I don’t watch tv. I do like box sets though. I’d buy off eBay, nice and cheap and throw away the boxes and keep the DVD’s in those disc holder albums. I’d have a tv with inbuilt dvd. Otherwise, I just watch KZbin clips of my favourite shows on my tablet or phone.

[@chrisneville7310]

Android must be the best option for lower power consumption. I'm looking at an Android Tv box so I can watch live TV films and sports, Plus a laptop when I'm lounging on the bed. I'm still un decided on what monitor or TV I'll be putting in the van.

[@IsleofWightBushcraft]

...whilst watching the dinner and eating the tv😂... I don’t care if you’re a tablet salesman or not, I’m convinced, take my cash💷💷💷💷

[@disco535]

I have a TV DVD player I can watch it from my sofa or in bed it was 240 volt but I converted it to 12volt after watching a utube video of how to do it .we often buy DVDs from charity shops and when we have watched them I leave them at campsites or give them to people camping near me

[@lifeonmyowntermsx1]

I have a battery powered projector that's charged by USB 😁

[@charliemeen2241]

Tried using my AC tv with my battery in the van & immediately realized how quickly AC burns your battery. Also the metal of the van interferes with indoor HD antennas I think because my reception was 💩 Also the local news streams on the internet 🤠

[@richardfowler9901]

Spot on information.Thanks

[@uksewingmachineservice7030]

Nice one mate we take sky box in my van TV is on 12v sky box 240v don x jan 🤠🇬🇧👌👌

[@charlie123866]

i have a 5v dlp mini projector..10 watts..screen size up to 50 inch...can add anything via inputs..going to invest in a chromebook for youtube and facebook and email..i can use a firestick or chromecast for the projector.

[@woolleycodwanderers4833]

Lots of very useful information there 👍 ... Daren just saw you using your window vac on Mevi's video, you sounded well impressed with it, which one have you got because we are thinking of getting one 😊 ... 😘🤗❤️👵🏼🐾🐾🤠

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Thanks! Yeah I love that window vac, not the cheapest model out there but is is a good one and doesn't leak, its the kartcher WV5 - amzn.to/2O0Hc3q

[@SP-yw2tl]

Hi daz. I did email you regarding this. What do you do about a tv license if you watch iPlayer or itv hun etc.

[@davidmeadowcroft7626]

How do mate. Have you done a video about how the solar panel works and how it best ways to charge it using the solar panel. Thanks mate

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Hi mate, I've done a few videos on my solar kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbImoesmaaYh7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5XFlKeEjt-im7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXXVdZmEet-Cesk Hope these help!

[@roaddirtmotorcycleadventur1836]

Tablet is great for one person but if you have a few people in the van you would need something bigger, great video tho

[@ironian24]

I watch TV on ITV live if I get a signal on location, but I would love a bigger screen than my 7.5in ipad.

[@stuart5295]

Hello mate always great vlogs , what wifi provider do you use and what dongle do you have ? keep the vids coming 👍

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Hi Stuart, thanks mate. I've done a video on my internet, hopefully this will help you out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWXXZHqfmLiIhMU

[@swann4404]

The only trouble with a tablet is if you lying or sleeping in separate beds in MH, then you cant share like a full screen tv. Ok from a single person perspective, but not for couples.

[@CarlJones14]

Hard to find info on satellite dish to tablet, laptop or phone. Some 12v sat boxes have the ports for laptops and phones but can you get it to work. Most of Scotland you can forget wifi and 4g. I don't want a satellite dish on my fairly stealth campervan but in the right location I would like to set up my tripod satellite dish and watch free sat on my laptop or phone. I doubt this is possible. Good vlog, & you are dead right, there isn't that much info out there & what info there is, it's over complicated. I did take a large tv, tripod, dish and sat box to a property in France just so some very difficult members of my family could watch the Summer Olympics. I hasten to add that this is illegal to watch any tv in France without the right documents.😱👍

[@bigearedmouse17]

Charge all of your devices at Services, Watch them one by one in the evening ?

[@anthonydavey1724]

I can get you a years full subscription with all sky live football tv series lastest films for a year at a stupid price as long as you have internet access and tv firestick I use mine all the time it’s ideal for motorhomes and caravans

[@flybobbie1449]

Try TV stick, £15, a bit hit and miss. Need a strong signal.

[@markoneill2160]

forget about 12v TV's get a 230v smart TV about £100 and a small 150w inverter less than £10 from Amazon or Ebay and you have the best of all worlds, Freeview, online stuff like Netflix, Prime, ITV hub, BBC Iplayer etc and a decent size screen

[@hotsonaj]

I wonder how many van dwellers have a tv licence just curious

[@Bugoutvehiclesuk]

I got a 12v smart tv by cello and I don’t rate it at all. It feel cheap and it’s a faf to use.

[@r.sugarman2106]

Hi Darren, did you know there is a Freeview app on the android store that works great just like on a regular TV. But of course you will need unlimited data.

[@hotsonaj]

You can get a cheap projector and screen which is low power consumption being led

[@yvonnebryan4764]

Which is the best tablet, I’ve got an old iPad and thinking of getting a new tablet

[@hotsonaj]

You could also use a car dvd with video out to a monitor or projector

[@duncansampson8120]

been watching your videos brill mate my question well there are 2 i see you have the LPG refillable ones do you find easy to find places to refill them mate also do you run your fridge on gas

[@simonking559]

Hi there...looking at this as off to france in the van during summer...i agree tablets are the way..what make is youre tab? Also is the galaxy tab a any good for this purpose? Seems the best budget buy without blowing the budget.many thanks....sime

[@adrianhydephotography]

Great information what about the normal phone

[@timothy790110]

I fuckin love Eastenders!

[@zenzen9131]

You can use a bluetooth keyboard with the tablet if you need one :)

[@viajar24h50]

Man you need a projector.

[@nipperr725]

What if you have a game console

[@raider1822]

Think most led tv nowadays are 12v, if you dont use the plug transformer it comes with.

[@deluxecleaningsolutions2959]

I use a petrol generator 5 pounds a day on fuel And you can use everything you could in a house

[@consettcorals]

Hi which generator do you use and is it noisy ? Thanks.

[@deluxecleaningsolutions2959]

I got a loan of a Honda of a friend but then I went to screw fix and I got a great generator cheep and really reliable I had it for a year now and it’s actually quite for a petrol engine sometimes when it almost runs out of fuel I top it up again so it’s nothing for it to run for 2 days constantly you will probably see it if you look up screw fix website mine is orange and black

[@deluxecleaningsolutions2959]

Square peg round hole i only live in a caravan in the summer I service the engine my self with all my other tools and it’s nearly free coz I have so many

[@deluxecleaningsolutions2959]

I can use what ever i like for that tho and 5 pound a day Is not a lot of money I’d give more for a good coffee and i can service it my self and it costs almost nothing coz i service my own engine tools and solor panals are a lot more expensive to fit and if they brake you can’t fix them a generator is a lot better choice I’m living in caravans for years

[@deluxecleaningsolutions2959]

The noise does not bother me coz i have it a good safe distince away from me I service it every cupple a weeks coz I like doing it I have no value on 5 pounds and what happens if you’re van brakes down and you have to get rid of it with the extremely expensive solar Panels for all the years of using generators I’ve not had a problem and I know that I can’t get ripped off by some fitter of solar panels I believe generators are the way to go but everyone is entitled to there own opinion I was raised in this environment no one can tell me what’s best to do when it comes to camping or anything got to do with a caravan or camper and the coffee thing is just an expression

[@offgridselfteliant]

Say what! Okay, you need to get out more! Van life isn't about sitting your ass in your van!

[@keefe9176]

What do you do about a tv licence?

[@mickharrison9004]

Any TV In camper take too much power, do the battery's quickly, same as dvd players.

[@leesmith9299]

Question about the Chromebooks - can you play a video file? mp4 format etc.? maybe have it on a usb stick and plug it in?

[@TheUrbanMotorhome]

Yeah you can with the VLC app you can play most formats

[@leesmith9299]

@@TheUrbanMotorhome great thanks for that

[@dcawkwell]

Any ideas on Satellite TV for vans? For UK and abroad.

[@davidpiper3652]

Freesat with a dish on the roof, or if you are willing to set up each time, on a portable tripod. It's difficult abroad as the beam is configured for the UK, so from South France, Spain etc you need a HUGE dish to get a useable signal. Or read a book ...

[@nickaf5262]

Does MacBook have a usb charger or is it 220 volts

[@nickburton9366]

Love to know how much the gaming laptop uses

[@rogerrabbit6522]

Live TV and especially BBC is taboo here, used to have Sky...hundreds of channels and nothing worth watching so strictly online content now. Any monitor will do as long as it runs on lower dc voltages and has a selection of inputs. Don't forget there's lots of external speaker options too. Don't forget you can always swap out the power board in your mains tv for a regulated 12 > x vdc psu. Measure across a shunt to get the current or play it safe and have a high-ish current psu, there's plenty around. Lots of the stuff fitted in vans should have a regulated psu anyway especially cctv etc. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163715184918

[@MG-cp8xk]

Why not sell your big heavy TV ?

[@takenbistorm1]

Have you thought a bit ahead for when the government outlaws the combustion engine or makes owning one so expensive, eventually we’re all going to be forced to go electric

[@80srenaissance67]

And planned for when we have to eat bugs 🐛

[@garnhamr]

can you not just get a lot of batteries? say about 10 leisure batteries?