Are All Chaos Worshippers Actually Evil? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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[@Grabthar191]

I heard a Rumor that Amazon is going to do a Warhammer Series with Henry Cavill? Has anyone else heard this.. on the plus side, Henry Cavill would be an awesome primarch or really anyone ... on the negative side Amazon did Rings of Power and completely spat on the Tolkien lore.

[@wilkor7643]

@@Grabthar191 Not only he will start he will be an Executive Producer

[@Grabthar191]

@@wilkor7643 That gives me hope then. Because I hear he quit the Witcher when the writers decided to crap on the story and tried to introduce modern scio-political BS into the narrative.

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Thank you.

[@phil56892]

I grew up on a world, untouched by our emperor’s holy light and tho I’ve Been a fan of this channel for a while now, I’ve never read a war hammer book or even played the games lol I really like the lore. I’ve finally decided to get into the novels, but there’s soooooo much it’s overwhelming finding a good place to start lol can anyone suggest some good ones to start with, for a noob who only has a basic awareness of the setting, and major factions, from watching major kill KZbin videos lol I’m Just want a nice place to start that will cover the important shit I need to know and then some fav recommendations for once I’ve got a foothold. Doing my best to not be a heaven, zeno sympathiser scum bag but I’m also worried that my naivety could be taken advantage of by chaos

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Anyone who runs is a Chaos worshipper. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined Chaos worshipper." - Inquisitor Tim Colceri

[@CidVeldoril]

Ha, I'll just slowly walk back and forth. Truly an Emperor-inspired thought.

[@bmorebread8993]

"Ain't war hell!!" Lol

[@bmorebread8993]

@@TheGreyWinter full metal jacket

[@necfreon6259]

@@bmorebread8993 huh hate your drill sergeant simulator eh

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

Commissar Hartman: As soon as you finish your bunks, I want you two turds to clean the head. Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, aye-aye, sir! Commissar Hartman: I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the God Emperor Himself would be proud to go in there and take a dump! Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, yes, sir! Commissar Hartman: Guardsman Joker, do you believe in the God Emperor of Mankind? Guardsman Joker: Sir, no... (head explodes from Commissar Harman's bolter gun)

[@broxim9668]

The Thousand Sons rescue a lot of mutans and Psykers from the Imperium, training them to become Sorcerers, Astartes or just actual librarians. Tizca is supposedly an actual metropolis, albeit surreal. They will sacrifice you if they have to, but usually the Thousand Sons are by far one of the best options for Psykers.

[@PerpetualSushi]

all well and good till they jam you into a hellbrute

[@synergy8879]

i mean if i can expand upon my powers, not get executed and live in a crystal metropolis as a psyker that’s pretty good. might even accompany ahriman to the black library.

[@serronserron1320]

But the price for knowledge is high and becoming a sacrifice, a magical experiment or chaos spawn is not uncommon. Demons will still attempt to take your soul. Sorcerers might involve you in their machiavellian power struggles. And Chaos Magic might drive you mad or just twist you into an abomination.

[@connormcgehee9349]

@@serronserron1320 not really. In lore tnzeech don't like his daemons killing those already on his side so he Merks them too. And as a helpful side effect the science allows for more medical knowledge. there is still the off chance you get sacrificed or tricked into being experimented on

[@Frame_Late]

@@connormcgehee9349 Thousand sons and Death Guard tend to treat their normal human recruits 'better' than the rest. Death guard sees plague as a gift, and the thousand sons like to recruit more than kill: senseless killing isn't a huge thing for them. The rest actually suck.

[@Greenwood41]

I think Tzeentch would have found Visatrio blowing up a Virus Bomb right in Fulgrim's face absolutely hilarious.

[@pifilixxiv3192]

Honestly can imagine tzeench let it happen just to tell slaneesh that they chose poorly

[@guyver441]

Even Magnus would find that funny...might be why he sent his boi's in the first place.

[@caveychip7]

Wait, was rylanor the one who virus bombed fulgrim? Edit: sorry, forgot about that other gigachad from that scene

[@Greenwood41]

@@caveychip7 Oh yes, Rylanor did. But one of Vistario's squad mates used a spell to freeze the bomb in a time warp to contain the explosion. It was only after Vistario saw what a massive creep Fulgrim was, that he thought "Screw it...", and shot his mate in the head, causing the spell to break and the virus bomb to explode.

[@LOVEMUFFIN_official]

To be fair, the Night Lords were skinning babies BEFORE they fell to Chaos.

[@Astarohath]

"You should never grade evils, for if one is the worst, then you might be tempted to kinship with the least." Inquisitor Victor Saltzpyre

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Just because you're a bad guy doesn't mean you're a bad guy." - some Russian wrestler dude from Wreck-It Ralph movie

[@RoamingHitbox]

Zangief, from street fighter if you wanted to know.

[@Kevc00]

@@RoamingHitbox and his muscles of steel

[@ApolloSol_101]

Zangief from Street fighters

[@ZoMbi5lAy3r]

This quote is always so funny to me as a long time Street Fighter fan, since Zangief has never been a bad guy, except in the Van Damme movie which is non-canon.

[@Minority119]

@@ZoMbi5lAy3r convenient he was so directly regarded as antagonist so much when all he was is just, like A patriotic citizen of Soviet Russia

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

The unapologetic evil is one of the things that attracted me to Chaos as a faction to begin with but I do wish they'd explore the more grey aspects of Chaos and Chaos Worshippers in depth

[@necfreon6259]

A few khorn cults are more into honor or martial prowess and there may be a tzeench character that might genuinely want to learn about stuff without an ulterior motive I’m not sure about nurgle cause the nature of it is unbiased neutrality and slannesh is slannesh

[@kaspersaldell]

There is no greyness to chaos, only grimdark. That applies to the vast majority of its worshippers too

[@maninthemask6275]

Personally I think that there could be chaos faction who would want to spread their ways of chaos life style to loyalists because they think it’s a legitimately better for them then worshiping the emperor and living under the imperium. I mean Slaanesh is all about seeking out pleasure and stuff. So a chaos leader wanting to make humans to be ranging thirst-fueled ecstasy chasers because he legit thinks it better for them isn’t I much of stretch. Though I don’t think the conversion methods would be peaceful or well level headed.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Unapologetic evil has upsides. Just look at our world. It is kind of unrealistic for all these dark universes to not have the evil side accidentally make the world a better place fairly regularly. The universe doesn't care about intentions. The only reason the evil sides don't save the day every other crisis is because the plot won't let them.

[@Ynwell_theslaaneshi]

@@maninthemask6275I mean, the main thing that converted the emperor’s children to slaanesh wasn’t the sexual pleasure at first, it was seeking perfection, a perfection which would transcend your human form. I’d love to see things like a world where life isn’t so bad (unlike in hive cities basically) and people are super individualistic because if they feel like family they’d start believing in nurgle.

[@Pacster15]

As a Nurgle worshipper, I can confirm we are not evil... We just have a bit of a smell to us.

[@khoichau8088]

A nurgle worshipper dont like to pee in toilet. That not evil?

[@hallowed_grounds]

@@khoichau8088 so, all of India is evil?

[@JustaPonderer]

Yes inquisitor, this comment right here

[@indrickboreale7381]

@@JustaPonderer Inquisitor isn't needed here. Our Chaplain will decide their fate. With boltpistol

[@inquisitorkryptman7893]

As a Slannesh worshiper im just energetic and having big staff

[@loyal0299]

I want a short story where after a couple gets married. Slaanesh gets frustrated that love is under the emperor for humans. So Slaaneshie cults try and do weddings and romantic evenings only to fail at every turn. 40k needs these comedic moments.

[@stupidanon5941]

Now _that_ sounds like some fucking heresy. Rather be a filthy xeno than see that shit happen.

[@somm150]

You may now feast on the bride’s soul

[@ntvm4749]

meh idk man 40k is known for the "grimdark" it's not your friendly comedy sunday show but if the majority of fans wants then why not i guess but personally i'm against comedy that's "heavy"

[@josephmariani9945]

One theory I’ve seen about the good aspects of the Chaos gods that I found really interesting was that the Old Ones took that aspect of them to create some of the Eldaar gods. Majority of this theory stems from the similarities between the three surviving members of the Eldaar Pantheon (Cegorach, Isha, and Khaine) and the older Chaos gods (Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Khorne). Both Isha and Nurgle are both are gods of life, and Nurgle is explicitly stated as to be holding Isha in his garden. Khorne and Khaine are both gods of war who are both characterized as berserkers. Finally both Cegorach and Tzeench are tricksters, with Cegorach apparently scheming to this day in the Black library. The theory states that separating these “good” aspects of the chaos gods happened way before the current setting and because there was only the “evil” aspects left chaos became what it is today.

[@Ishkaga02]

In one of the books Khaine is referenced as the son of Khorne so I always believed there is some relation.

[@custodianguardofthemagyari216]

I think gw should focus more on the pozitive aspect of chaos gods especially khorne ( you can see how popular is the blood pack)

[@Kevc00]

It's not even the positive aspects, it's just the nuance. As a world eaters fan boy it's a bit annoying when every piece of media is just oh they're insane, which is just kinda boring and too one dimensional.

[@inwit594]

@@Kevc00 Some would say martial honour and pride in ones ability as a warrior is good, some would say they are bad. It's a matter of perspective in that case, although at least martial honour could potentially mean you only seek worthy foes instead of mindlessly butchering everything.

[@custodianguardofthemagyari216]

@@Kevc00 yeah the world eaters definitly need the blood pact treatment

[@Kevc00]

@@inwit594 see that's the kind of nuance I like, less of the pure we love killing kids because that makes us great fighters, and more warriors who fight because they serve the god of war. They fight because it's what they were bred to do. Warriors who's only motivation is to fight. It's different also but much the same. Give more variety and again a bit of nuance to the faction. Generally I just hate when they get the one dimension treatment.

[@Nartanek]

Agree, but yeah khorne is the worst example. Almost all his followers are crazy maniac berzerks. Slaanesh followers make the most sense i think, tzeentch ones are the less chaossy of the lot in my eye, you could have a conversation with a thousand son sorcerer, nurgle too theoritically but you'll die of diseases before that so they are kinda hard to approach...

[@howlingbeast3x6]

I've always thought it was weird that the thousand suns are considered the same as the other chaos marines. Ahriman's ritual literally made them immune to the corruption of chaos. So while they are kind of stuck with tzeentch, some of them should be able to break free if they so chose

[@BrothaMan831]

I thought his spell also made them all autonomous dust housed in power armor

[@howlingbeast3x6]

@@BrothaMan831 If I remember correctly, all of the non-psykers became dust constructs. All of the psykers became immune to chaos corruption.

[@Gunga2]

I have to hand it to Major, this whole week has been banger video after banger video. This man is really making the best 40K content on KZbin, if more KZbinrs had a drive like MK this platform would be a much better place.

[@josephvoskuhl878]

We need to petition Henry Cavil to have Major perform a cameo as Sly Marbo in the new series.

[@NANA-lq5md]

Wouldn't work, Marbo has muscle.

[@christopherwood2277]

Nah, he should show up as a custode since he plays them.

[@jimzo1985]

Nah he needs to be like that 1 fan in elder scrolls oblivion ...

[@jakubgrzybek6181]

Think Major would be great as a guardman that gets blamed by Dark Angles because he saw the fallen.

[@some_dummyhead9880]

@@christopherwood2277 doesnt Major play Eldar?

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

MajorKill, We need a video about what would happen if someone tried to make a Space Marine out of an Ogryn

[@Alorand]

Or better yet an Adeptus Custodes. Their gene-therapies are implied to be advanced enough to fix whatever is wrong with Ogryn brains. But it would take something very unlikely for them to choose an Ogryn embryo to work with.

[@KCUFyoufordoxingme]

Or a thunder warrior. I really want to see the iron warriors try that, and it is not TOO lore wonky. Some ogryn thunderwarriors Frankensteined out added to the iron warriors.

[@TheEyez187]

Forget all that; Squat Astartes!!! >XD Salaminimanders!! No Angry marines, just Happy Marines, Sleepy Marines, Dopey Marines, Grumpy Marines, Doc's an apothecary and Sneezy fell to Nurgle!

[@EsotericDrifter]

@@TheEyez187 leagues of Votann are the closest you will ever see.

[@TheEyez187]

@@EsotericDrifter Never considered those; only seen one video about them. Recall them being Hi-Tech, but not low to the deck! :D

[@TheWarmachine375]

Chaos was the evil manifested from the sins of the War In Heaven, the conflict so catastrophically devastating it made the Horus Heresy barely a blip on the radar.

[@Nostroman_Praetor]

I still question that considering only a third of the forces in that conflict actually contributed to it. Necrons have no souls and Orks don't feed the warp.

[@anthonylamonica8301]

@@Nostroman_Praetor It doesn't matter when you have the Old Ones and War-in-Heaven Aeldari as participants. Particularly in the case of the latter, you needed to be a low-Alpha Grade Psyker to even be _cannon fodder_ during the War in Heaven. There were _trillions_ of them.

[@Ropetrick6]

@@Nostroman_Praetor Even if they don't have souls, their physical actions could affect the nature of the warp too.

[@christiandauz3742]

Chaos feeds on violence and emotions Trazyn alone does both on a regular occassion, sometimes not his fault which probably makes it extra juicy for Chaos Khornate Orks are Canon thanks to a Novella released back in 2017

[@thomasleveque8204]

@@Nostroman_Praetor The thing is, Old ones and Eldars are/were so psychic that they echoed hard in the warp. Note that the war of heaven was so dark, twisted, violent and overall did so much casualties that the warp changed forever. It was a calm and gentle sea of souls and emotions, now it is a sea of monsters that feed on everything not them + the chaos realms.

[@primary2630]

Reading Dark Imperium atm and it's pretty intrresting how Nurgle infects and takes people over. They aren't even aware of it until they're basically mind controlled and exploding with maggots

[@ShandoGuardian]

I gotta say Dark Imperium really made me fall in love with Nurgle's Demons. They're so jolly, except Ku'gath who's very grumpy

[@adventarchivist5789]

Not sure if Tzeench could still be counted as a "Good" chaos god. If you're making your own schemes, it would come come about it works with Tzzench's own schemes

[@nanonano2595]

hes at least the most neutral of the chaos gods, by human morality.

[@oom-3262]

Blasphemer. Tzeench has already considered every possible outcome and you coming up with a scheme is inside his scheme and has been all along.

[@communisticus191]

Worth mentioning that Tzeentch is also the chaos god empowered by hope, so genuinely good actions and schemes already works with Tzeentch's own schemes. Not to mention almost any good action that actually makes a difference in the long run invariably involves change by the very nature of the setting. Even the example of Vistario involves a twist of fate and a betrayal, which is right up Tzeentchs alley

[@陳怡秀-r7y]

@@communisticus191 intentionally trying to beat him, backfires in him giving you more power and watching your antics. Genuinely worshiping him and not doing much won’t impress him and he might turn your leg into a log and your dick into bees. Try to fight him with his own power and avoid corruption and he’s like “lmao, here’s a kiaoken x2”

[@justinweber4977]

"What if one or more Chaos God was defined by their positive traits over their negative" would be a cool video. Either being that way from the start, making a conscious shift in their behaviors,vor altered over eons by their worshippers.

[@dragonturtle2703]

It’s rare, but there are more like Eisenhorn. Mostly Xanthites, like one who saved an entire hive city by rapidly making and using 3 demon hosts.

[@TheGoodLuc]

Eisenhorn is a radical, not a choas man.

[@dragonturtle2703]

@@TheGoodLuc I didn’t mean to imply he was. Just that other people that fit this example usually are.

[@TheGoodLuc]

@@dragonturtle2703 Ah, I see.

[@Dloin]

Maybe someone should make a Chaos army of 50% noise marines and 50% iron warriors... And make them pray to the Gods of Metal

[@Hostile345]

Tit Snitch is the funniest pronunciation I’ve heard yet

[@Guldfisken90]

I was so fucking confused when he started saying that xD

[@spider-spectre]

Imperial Citizen : "Thank goodness, Space Marines, praise the Emperor, we're saved." Alpharius : " Saved? More like under new management."

[@kelpie1533]

Chaos isn't intrinsically evil, it's just a rejection of all order, rules and limits. There's a short story in the old Realm of Chaos books where a chaos champion helps Kislev fighting in the Siege of Praag against the Chaos incursion. Chaos is all possibilities including fighting against itself.

[@pifilixxiv3192]

With malice the chaos god of anti chaos

[@sovietunion7643]

thats kind of what i miss about old fantasy. chaos actually felt chaotic, like it wasn't one organized faction but more differing chaos gods and demons duking it out. in fact i would argue thats the limiting nature of chaos. as soon as chaos starting actually conquering the galaxy they turn against eachother in competition. there are few universes where chaos wins simply due to that reality.

[@followeroflies]

How about Ahriman? (probably the only sane chaos champion)

[@kuafer3687]

He's the most copium addicted being in the Galaxy

[@stueyfubar]

He mentions Ahriman at the end...

[@DoctorM42]

Ahriman is essentially a dog chasing a steak on the end of a fishing rod attached to the dog. He doesn't want to do bad things, it's just he thinks he has to if he wants that steak and it'll be so juicy once he finally gets it. The entire Ahriman plot is Ahriman: Let me into the vault of ultimate power. Everyone else: Look, we would, but every time you get access to power you always try to fix things and make things worse. Ahriman: But that's why I need the power, I have so many things to fix. Everyone else: You're right, you fucked everything up really badly. But there are still some things that aren't totally covered in shit and we're worried that when you try to clean up the shit you covered everything else with you'll accidentally cover the unshit things with shit. You know. Like you always do. Literally every time. Ahriman: This time it'll be different, let me in the vault. Everyone else: It's not even a real vault, there's no power inside. We just put some clues out there to lure you here so we could all speak to you. This is actually an intervention, listen, we all care about you. We're all gathered here to help you. We just need you to stop. You're hurting the people you care about with this obsession. If you stop now then we can salvage what is left and maybe one day you can learn to accept things for what they are. They may not be perfect but that doesn't mean there is nothing to cherish. Your quest to fix everything has stopped you from seeing that not everything needs fixing. Ahriman: So you won't let me in the vault? Everyone else: ... there is no vault. Ahriman: If you won't let me in the vault willingly I'll have to kill you all. Everyone else: Wow.

[@danpitzer765]

@@DoctorM42 Hey, blame Magnus for that. When Ahriman tried to kill him for turning into a Daemon Prince, and Tzeentch literally removed Magnus' ability to kill Ahriman, Magnus dropped a Geas on Ahriman to 'understand Tzeentch'. Only two ways to do that. Black Library, or managing to make the Black Staff powerful enough to eat Tzeentch like it has so many Daemons. He's got a freaking compulsion spell on him cast by Magnus the Red that won't let him stop and devise a proper spell to fix things.

[@blankeon6613]

Fabius Bile is also sane. He can be considered a champion of Slaanesh because he unintentionally empowers Slaanesh in his obsessive quest to perfect his genetics research and torturing billions of people in the process.

[@Alorand]

I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Eldari Black Library 🤔 The place is only open to those individuals who overcame chaos demon possession. I think that it was implied that Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn was one of the rare humans to do so.

[@andrewterry9583]

What about the soul drinkers chapter. They were corrupted by chaos but stayed loyal to the emperor.

[@LB-yg2br]

You mispelled alpha legion

[@mattd6931]

@@LB-yg2br The Soul Drinkers are Alpharius.

[@danielwells1734]

The hat looks good on you. 😉 Imagining Tzeentch as an anti-hero. A trickster who likes to mess around with whomever he wants, but out of mischievous rather than malevolence.

[@power-armoured_german9856]

Isn't that spot already taken by Cegorach?

[@michaelrosenstock9187]

Ya meant a troll

[@ellis7622]

I couldn’t tell if you were messing with us when you used the night lords as an example of “reasonable and understandable” chaos worshippers.

[@embrikchloraker8186]

The Blood Gorgons would likely have been a better example.

[@fatesworn3138]

Im sure alot of people tell you all the time but i greatly appreciate all the time and effort you put into all these lore videos as someone who was always half assed when it came to models and the lore i have learnt and invested alot more time into warhammer and warhammer 40k thank you mate

[@joshuacroker8224]

Actually he forgot about the Blood Gorgans, a whole Chaos Space Marine chapter dedicated to helping mortals overthrow their masters whether imperial or chaos. While I wouldn't call them 'good' per say they are far more morally correct in their actions then many Imperial factions. Also the Enslaver Plague refers to the Enslavers breaking into our reality it doesn't actually have anything to do with diseases.

[@kobold7466]

I like to think there is at least 1 chaos warband that doesn't do senseless slaughter or cruelty and is only focused on freeing enslaved or subjugated imperial worlds.

[@CidVeldoril]

Vistario realized a very important thing. Nobody likes Fulgrim. Except Fulgrim. Fulgrim REALLY likes Fulgrim.

[@gtaylor1442]

I every time he said “tzeench” I thought he was saying “tits bitch” and was talking about Slaanesh.

[@skarpur13]

You forgot Argel-Tal. Arguably, he wasn't given enough time to get properly corrupted. Still, he remained morally mostly good and upright despite having a demon symbiote for a while.

[@lachlanevans5013]

I think the best example I can find of this to me is in the Beastslayer book where a Dukes brother(who is secretly a mutant and Tzeentchian follower) tries to have the duke assassinated. But throughout it all he is questioning his motives and reasonings as he genuinely loved his brother and at the last moment he saved his brother and died in turn. Then Gotrek showed up and the assassins lifespan was cut short and the Duke continued to live and lead the following battle.

[@domtromans2783]

I can’t say I’ve ever previously heard Tzeentch pronounced as ‘Tit Snitch’.

[@blazecurry1058]

Perhaps the first three chaos gods were weapons made by the old ones to fight the c'tan and necrons. Each one fights at a different scale, and aligned, form a perfect battlefront.

[@Waishwhw72i19sjx7]

Big true. Imagine the three of them, and all their followers / worshippers completely united. Using all resources in a cohesive manner and letting Ts create the plans while Khorne runs shit down on the battlefield. Nurgle healing any injured and growing more and more armies / champions that are then imbued with power from Khorne. Psykers in the back powered by Ts. I don't think anyone would have much of a chance. Except my lovely Necrons. They'd make them pokemon like they do with all Gods. :)

[@sovietunion7643]

@@Waishwhw72i19sjx7 that is actually a really good explanation for why the chaos gods seem to be so powerful when they work together. the horus heresy only happened as well as it did because the big three decided that to survive after the great crusade they had to work together and break the leg of the imperium.

[@misterdeath2929]

To be fair... The Night-Lords were skinning babies before 'falling to Chaos'

[@shotgunsandsmoke]

Henry Cavill’s new 40k series should be animated by the Astartes animator set in the Great Crusade/ Horus Heresy era with Cavill voicing Constantin Valdor and Charles Dance as the Emperor

[@squoblat]

Charles Dance would make a better Malcador

[@SmokeyTehBear]

I believe the short story about the nurgle corrupted ultramarine is from the “Let the Galaxy Burn” omnibus. The short story is called “In Daamatio Tuum”. Also features a SoB cannoness.

[@seanreusing4409]

Glad to see ur reaching ur 420K mark pretty soon MK. To celebrate why not dedicate this achievement by celebrating the great Sanqinala of telling the deeds, legends, and lore about the Greatest Golden Edgelord Chapter Master who just wants to f'ing die. Dante vid pls?👍🙏🏻

[@Sebasti44n]

Thank you for this video Majorkill. Especially this video hit me really close to home. I also like to light weird smelling candles while playing in my own poo.

[@Waishwhw72i19sjx7]

Has there ever been a better sponsor / ad than Manscaped and this mad lad who is a literal real life Custodes? I don't think so.

[@GearShotgun]

We’re almost there. Majors only a thousand subs away from his goal of 420k!

[@Stothehighest]

I can't unhear "Tit-snitch"....

[@DanAllbee]

No diggity, good shiznit my tiznitch.

[@guardsmenedwin6213]

Part two Erda. Never gonna stop. I want your take on 1v4 greater deamons.

[@cracklingpumpkin1569]

Next video idea: If one of the Chaos Gods decides to somehow join forces with the Imperium against the other Chaos Gods, who would it be, why and how would it affect the current setting?

[@Franz0818]

Malice is most likely

[@biomass6119]

tzeentch probably

[@donniesdeals]

Ahh second video I've seen you comment this on, hope he sees it

[@MEGASTRIX]

Nurgle or Tzeench based on this might be somewhat close? IDK seems unlikely to happen.

[@possessedlampshade178]

the mere thought alone is heresy

[@kektuss]

So if the whole of 40k miraculously stopped being Grim Dark, would the chaos gods be more neutral? As they are reflections of the thoughts of people.

[@kabuki_kitten7129]

7:29 tbf though fulgrim was quite slaaneshy then and the thousand sons were quite tzeenchy so it stands to reason that it may have been a boon to tzeeench to jick slaanesh in the balls (however many of them slaanesh has) by kneecapping fulgrim

[@Luvulong]

That question alone begs for exterminatus

[@DinoCopRulezTheWORLD]

Took me few moments to realize that Tit-snich is Tzeentch, not Slaanesh as TIT-SNITCH like describes Slaanesh prety well😄

[@steellynx8972]

me and my mates always called him "Zee-ch" instead of "Tic-inch".

[@malathar117]

Hell yea majorkills gona reach his follower goal before the end of the year! Let's GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[@kuafer3687]

06:17 it's Cymar Xydia of the White consuls chapter and Vorx of the Lords of Silence warband if anyone's interested

[@glasslaughter824]

Had an idea for a comedy novel about four greater demons who were actually nice to people on a planet in the rift and helped them alot and protected them.

[@brandonhughes4571]

One thing i want to point about the incident between fulgrim and vistaro is that the bomb he allowed to detonate was a virus bomb(which is even more based btw) and not a nuclear one as major kill said. Just want to point that out

[@Calamity556]

I could see there being some Slaanesh worshippers who are on the more "pleasure" side rather than "pain" who just want to party and have a good time, which could be considered less evil.

[@v10l3t40]

I think another good example of a Thousand Sons being a good guy was Iskandar Khayon, when he and a World Eater left the World Eaters ship with his crew, the man resented him for the cowardice. He asked for the names of all 50 dead World Eaters and put their names in the ships Archive to honor them. He also calls a Drukhari and a daemon wolf familiar his "Sisters." Most wholesome moments I've read from a Chaos follower yet

[@battlepugg3120]

Ok are we going to ignore the fact he kept say "TiT-Snitch" and not "Zeenche"

[@The_Real_Alpharius]

Bruh....

[@blue24_actual]

thank you

[@--Nemesis]

"I pray to the Dark Prince to bless me an opponent worthy of my Charnabal Sabre.". I can't say much about my brothers in The Emperors Children but my kill team is rather "honorable" and view the Imperium evil. We the good guys! :D

[@martinsandor707]

Am I tripping, or is he really calling Tzeentch "Tit Snitch"?

[@alastor8091]

If your answer is anything other than "yes" you can join them in the brick wall staring contest.

[@EricLinstone]

Generally, when you think of Chaos (outside of 40K), you think of someone that goes either way. Good and evil and everything in between. They could slaughter an entire town of people. But then build a ranch for all the pets who's owners they killed. Just wacky and random. That is by definition, Chaos. Randomness and unpredictability.

[@recklessmadman1597]

Yes, Lord Inquisitor. This man right here committed an act of HERESY!

[@kannonball5789]

6:08 My brother in the God Emperor, this isn't a Chaos Worshipper. This is an Loyalist self-sacrifice.

[@quahodron2756]

"... nose and ear trimmer I personally don't need (laughter) ...." Well, I didn't needed this too, when I was your age, child, but we will see each other in 10 years, when your fur grows and you constantly ask yourself, why and when you gained like 20 kilograms.

[@angelusumbrae]

I'm kinda glad they retconned humanity being the cause for Khorne, Tzeentch, and Nurgle. The Necrontyr and later Necrons, as well as the Eldar and Krork fighting them and just existing for millions or billions of years before we monkeys became Monkai. And the events Majorkill suggested being their births makes a lot of sense. Especially since the Eldar's g-less grape and unaliving spree caused Slasnesh's "birth". Also especially cause earlier GW said that the conquests, and literal piling of skulls, of Genghis Khan during the time of the Mongols triggered Khorne's birth, when I'm sure A LOT more sentient beings died during the War In Heaven.

[@drago939393]

I'm just wondering where Hashut is.

[@angelusumbrae]

@@drago939393 Died with the rest of the Old World. 😞

[@drago939393]

@@angelusumbrae Surely there is some faction that could revive him unintentionally!

[@angelusumbrae]

@@drago939393 While I agree with that from a point of interest, I doubt it cause... well... GW.

[@bluelick7578]

Wouldn't it be ironic that all 4 chaos gods have always existed but as good ententies, and through the ages ended up corrupted themselves.

[@spearishchap9979]

This idea has been bouncing around my brain for a bit, but a splinter group of word bearers who worship and spread the positive aspects of chaos would be a really interesting subfaction

[@Matt-md5yt]

Great topic today, MajorKill. Keep it up

[@CurrieG16]

Nice video Also I am so excited for the 40k TV show announcement, hoping we get some great 40k TV shows

[@The_Keeper]

Fat chance if GW is involed in ANY way.

[@CurrieG16]

@@The_Keeper Yea I'm cautious myself but I'm hoping for the best, I want warhammer to do good

[@Hateful_Psycho]

“Yes, inquisition this video roight ‘ere”

[@DarkAngelFistingBot]

love this content been tuning into videos for the past few years and your stuff only gets better and better keep it up Major!

[@MarkD5678]

I'm surprised how many people don't fully grasp just how twisted Nurgle is compared to the other Chaos Gods - all his talk of loving his children is pure gaslighting from a literal anthropomorphized toxic relationship who spreads despair and suffering until "you accept his love so he forgives you."

[@mephosto]

the emperor is disappointed, "are there any good heretics?" yes, there are. DEAD HERETICS.

[@andrewhenson8787]

I can’t remember exactly how the story goes but a real life example of this is that there was I think a commander of a panzer battalion in the Wehrmacht circa 1940 ish. So his unit was ordered to clear out a Jewish community somewhere in France, accompanied by an SS company. So as soon as his tankers reached their objective, the Panzer commander basically refused to go through with it, and instead took up defensive positions at the key bridges into the area and told the SS to go fly a kite. I can’t remember if the units ever actually exchanged fire, but I know that the Panzers bought just enough time for everyone to get out, and that the commander was executed immediately afterwards. GIVE ME MORE EXAMPLES OF THIS IN 40K! PLEASE, GW! CHAOS DO NOT HAVE TO BE ONE SIDED AWFUL PEOPLE *Deep exhale*

[@Jorjgasm]

That's a slippery slope there, mate! One way trip to the dungeons for you.

[@headlibrarian1996]

Ahriman still doesn’t know that the Rubric’s failure wasn’t his, it was sabotage by Tzeentch.

[@UgandanSonic]

Well we do have inquisitor quicksauce who was pulling a necron gamer move dabbin on the eye of terror with the super charged pylons as a daemonic looking dude

[@UgandanSonic]

I dont rememember makin this comment

[@OnlyRoke]

Chivalry of Nurgle is actually a relatively prominent thing in Age of Sigmar, btw. A bunch of the Nurgle worshippers in AoS are basically chivalrous, but bloated and diseased knights, who will respect honour and they see their infection-spreading as bringing a kindness into the world. They also oftentimes act like disgusting Bretonnians whereby one prominent Nurglite leader, the Lady of Cankerwall, is somewhat seen as a "Lady of the Lake" equivalent, where Nurgle Knights will go on a pilgrimage to sip on her holy chalice full of Papa Nurgle's disease-juices, so they become fully corrupted Blightkings.

[@chriswakefield6982]

I love your video dude and I got 1 of your signed calendars

[@bossshun9]

To put it simply: the Chaos Deities only want to see their own power grow and the others fade away. So, no any who follow them are doom to a fate worse than death. But, I can be wrong and who knows how many space marines, imperial guard, eldar, or other beings of chaos have turned against their masters.

[@dimensionalshade8290]

Its been so many years and he hasnt changed the outro,a very ultrakill move.

[@snaplordmeep6748]

Can you making a video on the different harlequin masks?

[@guyquanstrom6205]

Jago sevetar, if you can count him, total legend, it's a bit of a grey area with the night lord's, traitors but are they pledged to chaos? Easily my favourite chapter

[@silenthero2795]

I think the most ironic is Horus himself. He thought that he defeated the Emperor and so resisted the 4 Chaos Gods since his objective is now done. He isn't some pawn to be used so he tried his best to get rid of their influence. When they backed away along with their powers, Big E suddenly revealed himself to continue the fight. Horus began to call the power again but it was slow to return that Big E managed to take him for good.

[@crypticgaming2022]

No mention of the Relictors? a space marine chapter that have made it their mission to use chaos AGAINST chaos. Though, they were declared as traitors and they had to flee into the eye of terror. But who knows, they might still be devoted to the emperor.

[@Szopjale1]

In one of the books there was a minor Slaanesh worshiping Eldar colony which worked like a hive mind but was mostly peaceful. Their weapons did not kill the target but worked akin to a taser.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

You know why their weapons were not letal, right? An eldar following Slaneesh probably is a drukhari, so yeah, peaceful on the outside, but never go "netflix and chill" with them, you'll regret it for the rest of your miserable eternity.

[@Szopjale1]

@@elduquecaradura1468 No, they were not drukhari and their weapons were not non-lethal to have netflix and chill. They were a different breed of Slaaneshi eldar who were connected through "harmony stones" gifted by Slaanesh. They were basically a hive mind living in peace and harmony. They aimed for perfect beauty and looked uniformed also they had all kind of fruit art etc to enjoy. Due to the hivemind connection they felt each others thoughts and pleasures etc. In the book they wanted to use the non-lethal guns to acquire and inspect the soulstones of the craftworld eldars. Once the craftworld eldars used their lethal weapons on one of them they basically told them to bug off. Also Drukhari are per se not following Slaanesh. They hate its gut even though they practice the same things and refuse to acknowledge their actions is the reason Slaanesh was born in the first place.

[@Itsknightmare]

Nurgle guys "death guard": "they just need to be cleansed"

[@LichCrypt]

Ahriman is probably the most extreme form of anti-villain. He does some really evil shit, but never had any evil purposes or desires. He literally jumped into the Warp head first to save his brothers without thinking twice when Yvraine turned a couple of Rubric Marines back into flesh. I'd say that the Thousand Sons are the closest thing to "good" in the Eye. Not really honorable, because they're happy to backstab anyone for the right reasons. But all their evil is pragmatic and logical, instead of twisted, needlessly violent or depraved.

[@NobodyDungeons]

I have a Kornite fan character who managed to keep his cool, and actively sends non-combatants back to the imperium only killing the worthy foes who put up a fight. He even gets pissed when someone kills the innocents he sends back to the relative safety of the imperium. However, those who choose to remain become slave labor making food and weapons for the chaos warbands, and end up working in much better conditions with more luxuries than the average imperium citizen and mostly don't have to worry about getting killed since they are all unworthy foes. Additionally, they use these slave populations to recruit new chaos marines who are taught to temper the powers of khorne in a process called the forging.

[@NobodyDungeons]

The character in question is a corrupted wolfen who managed to keep his sense of self when he became a wolfen in order to save his battle brothers, and ended up siding drinking the blood god flavored chaos cool aid to kick the crap out of some of Tzeench's hentai monsters. Unlike other chaos space marines he is under no illusions of his servitude to Khorne, but chooses to stay with Khorne because no matter where he goes he'll end up serving someone and at least Khorne gives him powers and is actively present when compared to the emperor.

[@powrongster]

Our grandfather just wants to make the universe a better place for his children

[@NxSu-u8x]

Congrats on 420k🎊

[@kdin795]

Chaos is like a big casino... u have ppl who work there and u also have those that gamble there

[@stripeybag6977]

Obligatory asking Majorkill for a mini dedicated to the late Elderly Man. Want a proxy for my Commissar with Power Fist that's worthy of it's namesake.

[@chadsolomon1259]

"But as a side effect, everyone that was treated starts listening to dubstep"😂