The Pros and Cons of Joining Chaos | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

Someone plz buy Kitten so I don't have to keep using my shittyass paint job as his product photo : majorkill.com/products/kitten Or ya know, just keep jerkin your gerkin by lookin here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

[@boof1327]

holy shit I'm early

[@darklordmalthric9814]

Cover the badab war

[@jdurthu4304]

There is this one thing i have noticed in most of your latest vudeos. They are quite short, always around 10minutes, and an advertisement and sponsor segment take like 2 minutes out of it. So we have 8- 10 minutes of accual content. Idk it sometimes feels rusched and uninspired lateley. Do not understand me wrong- if you have to make a video longer for the add I support it 100%- this is how you earn your money from this job. Same with sponsors and adds. But some longer more inspired videos every now and then again yould be nice. Cheers Man hope everything will go well for You on your quest to the warhammer lore youtube domination 😃

[@markusfreund6961]

Jerkin' the gherkin it is ^^

[@keppa8644]

Khan banished morty back to the warp. Id say khan won.

[@Marconius6]

Ironically, improving quality of life across the Imperium would actually be a great way of combatting Chaos...

[@thespecter6416]

Which is also the least probable thing to happen to Imperium

[@a0point0of0view1]

It's easier said than done with how large it is and how beset on all sides, not to mention that supply lines how easily the supply lines can get fucked

[@Chaotic42Kami]

Nah. Eventually they'd all fuck up and get tangled in Slaanesh's grasp. Just like the flipping Eldar.

[@thespecter6416]

@@Chaotic42Kami Except Night Lords openly shun ANY chaos god worship in their ranks and their psykers personally tell each and every chaos god when the 4 gives them a vision.

[@viderevero1338]

@@Chaotic42Kami Just don’t go *too* far with the quality life changes. Y’know, keep some high tax rates.

[@Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen]

Tzeetch is historically a bad pick, as being an embodiment of hope and treachery means Tzeetch has little intention of rewarding effort. It’s directly stated that Lords of Change delight in giving power to beggars and ignoring devoted sorcerers. The only people who become Tzeetch daemon princes are those who have even larger ambitions then godhood and true immortality, ie insane people.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

true but the bar for entry is fairly low as well. you don't need to sacrifice entire planets, do tons of weird stuff, or have your body transmuted to a plague bag. He does reward convoluted insane schemes, especially if it involves summoning his demons to the materium

[@alan0004]

@@AsbestosMuffins and if you do remain insane he will give you the power to become a powerful psyker or chocolate powder

[@barklordofthesith2997]

@@alan0004 "he will give you the power to become a powerful psyker or chocolate powder" That sounds like a win/win scenario to me.

[@alan0004]

@@barklordofthesith2997 nesquik on a suit

[@thespecter6416]

@Architeuthis Dux The only good options are either Malice or chaos undivided

[@ShinForgotPassxXx]

Being a follower of Nurgle is the best thing that can happen when you join Chaos. You feel no pain, no fear, you love life, you got plenty of comrades who love you as much as you love them. And the most important: Your patron god will never abandon you, put you in the meatgrinder or sacrifice you for some greater good, he loves you all equally. The downside is that you are a rotting corpse but there are way way way worse things in the 40k Universe.

[@tennesseedogpack]

Being a servitor seems worse

[@philip8498]

@@tennesseedogpack well, i for one have never heard a servitor complain about their state of being. the only other beings that applies to ar nurgleites and orcs. so it seems to be in the top 3.

[@OmicronX-1999]

Getting brainjacked by constant feelings of bliss and belonging is exactly the same as being a mind controlled slave. Nurgle followers don't actually have free will, they might think they do but in reality they're all zombified servants of Nurgle and if the connection to him is ever broken, his followers have a few minutes to scream at the thing they've become before dying agonising deaths from multiple super diseases. Honestly, the whole 'perpetual state of bliss and belonging' thing is exactly how IRL cults sucker people in. At least the other three Gods aren't really giving you any illusions about what joining them means. Well, maybe Tzeentch does, but Khorne and Slaanesh worshippers are at least pretty sure what they're signing up for at the door.

[@dylan__dog]

​@@philip8498because they can't Clearly, get lobotomized in real life to solve all your problems and never be sad again is the best advice you can give

[@jabloko992]

That is deeply fucking disturbing for me and I would never choose that fate. You are a sedated and useless rotbag and the only people who love you are those equally useless and depraved as you, sure, you are sedated and in a constant state of pleasure, but you never earned any of it, you never achieve anything and deep down you know that all of this is just Nurgle crack that you're feeling. It is a constant state of blackmail and as soon as you do anything that papa nurgle doesn't approve of, you will experience agony that will make even Slaanesh raise an eyebrow. It's essentially an Incel's dream: You are a useless piece of garbage who cannot achieve anything in life, so you turn to Nurgle, just to finally be 'accepted and loved'. There is nothing more creepy than that.

[@BeigeFrequency]

Immortality kind of seems like a con when you realize you're living forever in the 40k universe.

[@Ivnnih2774]

Not to mention when you're captured by the inquisitors

[@RebelWvlf]

@@Ivnnih2774 you cannot be captured if you gut them like pigs first 👉😎

[@kaidothedrunkard]

@@RebelWvlf And then Trayzn decides your his next 40k Mini.

[@charlesc.9012]

Souls live forever too in some capacity, so it might be better to live as an individual than in some demonic machine or a pink grape dungeon

[@kaidothedrunkard]

@@charlesc.9012 This isn't 100% True as much of the Warp is under Chaos Dominion. There's no guarantee you'll die and not be in the clutches of a Daemon, or a Chaos God in a worse case scenario. Of Course, this isn't as likely if your A Astartes/Primaris or any section of the Imperium that's closely tied to the Emperor in some capacity.

[@AdeptKing]

Guilliman said it best. If the common Imperium citizen already lives a bad life that feels like hell, then joining Chaos isn't going to be much different. Heck it's probably going to look appealing like Majorkill said.

[@wayfaringstranger5957]

I have come to the rather brutal conclusion that instead of Khorne and Tzeentch, I would probably be corrupted by Slaanesh over an agonising period of self destruction and blackout drunk binges.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

Chaos Undivided? Get the pros and cons of all four of them?

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 And have Failbaddon the Armless as your leader, possibly having your head fucked by him after you realize how incompetent he is and trying to betray him that would have worked, if not for his plot armor.

[@MrFallenone]

@@f.e.areproduce5298 Since when does Abadon lead all the legions who havent been picked by a God? You do know that the Word Bearers, Nightlords and the Iron Warriors all Worship Chaos undivided right?

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@f.e.areproduce5298 It's not like Failbaddon is doing any worse then Fulgrim, Angron, Mortarion or Magnus.

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

​@@MrFallenone Night Lords are Night Lords, Iron Warriors have Perturabo who was said to be a gigant of terrible rages, Word Beearers have enemy of Corax hunting their asses down.

[@maxmacdeath]

"You will be constantly depressed and empty, only feeling anything at all when you commit the most depraved and heinous actions" Oh shit i didn't even realize i was a follower of Slaanesh

[@thenerfkid9228]

Uh, you good my guy

[@incognitopotato3516]

@@thenerfkid9228 don’t worry the inquisitor tells me he’ll be fine after a Bolter or two

[@glenglen6386]

Guess in the imperium the number of people being diagnosed with depression is close to 0. As the only treatment available is psychiatry a la inquisition. Would you like your gunshot to the head before or after we've psyker-rummaged your mind?

[@jorgebarriosmur]

So, you are inmortal ? No? I think you did not make a good deal!

[@bilbospox]

Corruption starts unnoticed

[@hansyolo8277]

Of course Major Kill makes a Kitten model after I buy Trajaan to turn him into Kitten, but before I painted him. I am happy, all Custodes players need a Kitten model

[@valiantgrey3375]

I’m new to 40k and I have to say you do an awesome job of putting out good information, with a great sense of humor thrown in. Awesome stuff, man.

[@Thoray]

What about chaos undivided, my guy. Probably is much harder to achieve than just signing up with one God but seems like it might be the best choice if you can qualify for it. Also Malal.

[@thenerfkid9228]

Malal/malice are pretty based

[@Aredel]

Malal slowly kills every one of his followers. You’d die even faster under his service than you would as a normal person,

[@AntonioPerez-wf2lf]

@@Aredel con: you slowly die Pro: you're not in the imperium and are fighting chaos with chaos.(I think, not sure)

[@SilentHotdog28]

Well the best best is becoming a Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided. Then you are pretty much free to do whatever the fuck you want, I mean you still obviously have to show that you are worth having around, but by the time you become a Daemon Prince, the gods are pretty happy with all your passed actions that they give you free reign.

[@monkeybusiness673]

@@Aredel Yes, but you get to both indulge in AND fight the self harming tendencies of yourself and everyone else....So, in a way, you're just LIVING as usual.

[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

Thanks to Total Warhammer 3 the Nurglings makes me want to join Papa Nurgle.

[@saltyshackles5227]

Slaanesh; -pros; endless booty -cons; walking like a cowboy for eternity

[@jackcanox4015]

Meh...fair tradeoff

[@patriciabenjamin7056]

The way you described Slaaneshi followers at 05:03 basically describes what it feels like to have Borderline Personality Disorder. No wonder Slaanesh is my favorite!

[@lordlucius1341]

My heart sank when you said Alfa moved on to different projects, I hope if GW cools down with the prohibition hammer he would come back but I’m afraid that it’s been too long for him to come back in, I would’ve loved to see kitten be revived with the proteus protocol.

[@AndrBR0]

So, the main issue I heard about new Maugan Ra model is it’s not lore accurate due to detachable magazines of his Shuriken cannon. The guy said , that Maugan Ra has some Familiarity with Bonesinging, so he can produce ammo infinitely and without reload

[@SarajevoKyoto]

Pros: You don't have to slave away for a corpse light years away who is currently being used as a sock puppet by Guilliman and the Custodes to rubber-stamp whatever they feel like doing. You get to raise your head from the back-breaking tyranny that is the foundation of your very existence. You get to have actual power over your own life, at least in the aspects of your chosen sponsor. Cons: You...umm...well according to the 40k lore your soul gets destroyed in the Warp anyways, so...umm...I dunno.

[@thenerfkid9228]

Yeah but the with the emperor you do at least get a chance to go to the big e's side of the warp which is nice

[@kcool8069]

Feel like you're highlighting the positives and ignoring a lot of the negatives pal. You are after all pledging allegiance to hell itself. It's more likely you'll get killed and have your soul torn apart by demons lol. You don't even get to keep your sanity with half of the Chaos Gods.

[@Tacoguy1000]

@@thenerfkid9228 If he even notices you to begin with.

[@KantFromEC]

Seeing the kitten model reminded me how much I miss TTS already.

[@darksider2903]

Of all chaos gods, i would choose khorne without a thought. His way is simple, he offers quick warriors death or you can get very muscular and strong af as you fight and climb the ladder 🐣

[@AbraGaming]

"without a thought". Without a thought is what you would be if you joined khorne lmao

[@znalniaskas]

If you're the kind of guy that Khorne is interested in then he's a total bro to you. For an underclass person Papa Nurgle might be the best option.

[@samhunter1205]

I dunno, Khorne is the god of rage as well as blood, and being angry all the time sucks. Look at any real person who is angry all the time - they are almost invariably depressed, moody, irritable and generally just a dick to everyone around them. I mean, it definitely doesn't sound as bad as the deal you get from Slaanesh or Nurgle, and probably not as bad as the creeping insanity from Tzeentch either, but it still doesn't sound like a good thing

[@kubobetterrelax7435]

@@samhunter1205 good call. Uh I might go with..... Oh this chaos God (shiny God man)

[@darksider2903]

@@samhunter1205 as I said, as a khorne follower, you get to die pretty quick if you mess up. Other 3 will just not let you die. And No depression as a khorne follower because when there is only rage, there is only slaughter and carnage till you die or khorne show some interest in you.

[@weatherman667]

The most persuasive thing the Archenemy can say to a Space Marine, "You won't have to listen to Guilliman."

[@Admiralkirk95]

Chaos is one of the most slippery slopes out there. Khorne will gradually make you not just want, but need to kill. Not killing in enough time begins to physically hurt you. It's like an addiction. Chaos takes their basic aspects and pushes it to 11 and only the few who can handle such stress can even dream of achieving the end goal. It's a strange sense of once you start there is no salvation besides deamonhood, cause every other alternative is terrible. I mean getting a mark of one of the gods starts to effect you. Slaaneshs mark starts to effect your senses, dulling your every day until you go beyond your limits and experience something new, and then it goes away. Now you continue to deprave yourself for that feeling never able to reach that highest height again until you feel nothing from anything. Connecting yourself to a god makes it impossible to go back to do so is to lose everything. They suck you in at your worst and most vulnerable and then manipulate you again and again with the promise of power, feeling, knowledge, eternal life and freedom from pain. Going back removes all of that. They feed off of fear of loss and a need for power. By the end you've made every justification and rationality to your actions forever changed both physically and mentally..... then you likely lose in the end, or you get lucky and get the covetted deamonhood where you are still, forever a slave to your master, no matter how much supposed freedom and power you have. But it doesn't matter, cause your master has trained you to be what they want you to be by this point.

[@Bigpandazomg]

I didnt even know I needed Kitten in my life like that. Praise

[@chromacypher8409]

The question is, why not! Korne, gets his anger out in the open. Nurgle, you can get sick, but never die from it. Slaneesh, lots of sexy time, and fun disco outfits. Tzeentch, always up for something new, and magic!

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Yeah Chaos is very progressive in comparison to the Imperium LOL :P

[@jamescar8085]

@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 if the imperium allowed innovation of new technologies it would be much more powerful but damn those mechanicus metal loving scrap iron cultists.

[@kcool8069]

Bruh, you are aware of the negatives behind Chaos right? Slaneesh is not just sexy time and fun, you are literally a person starved of emotion and pleasure unless you committ more and more degenerate acts. Tzeentch fucks over a lot of his followers because he's so random. With Khorne you literally become a mindless beserker who has an insatiable urge to murder shit. Worshipping Nurgle means your body degrades over time till it doesn't fucking work anymore.

[@chromacypher8409]

@@kcool8069 obviously you don't get sarcasm

[@kcool8069]

@@chromacypher8409 Sorry buddy. But emotions don't tend to come off well through text. For all I know you could've been serious, since people do argue for Chaos. Next time I'll make sure to read your mind and know that you're being sarcastic.

[@jakehughes6087]

Yes inquistor, this video right here

[@thomascannone3111]

don't know if you've already done a video on it but I would love to see a vid discussing whether or not the daemons of chaos are evil, since technically they need to spread whatever emotions and concepts their patron god is the god of or elsego extinct. like the daemons of khorne need war, rage and blood like we need food, water and air (kind of).

[@kiesarisunny13]

That skit in the intro was cool :)

[@PIJIM0N]

‘Chaos-boosted primarchs beat loyalist primarchs’ *laughs in Sanguinius*

[@Jason-gq8fo]

A video on the red Corsairs/Huron black heart would be awesome

[@kccustodes2618]

I have not given GW a single penny since Alfabusa was forced to move in new direction. That literally, along with alot of content creators in 40k, helped me deal with the depression of lockdown. Also, that picture of the custodes on staircase is dope AF. I want it!

[@danielryan6604]

Majorkill is a confucing man, my man looks like a fútbol jokey who doesn't know even how to multiply, and has some manerisims like it, but then you actualy see the guy and you pretty much enter un complete conflic, because he is actualy pretty smart and a huge fucking nerd Aether way keep it up man, you are probably the best Warhammer youtuber right now

[@entrippyZ]

If I had to fall to chaos I'd worship Samus specifically, he got shit done.

[@sal_monella]

Lmao you wasted money on monkeys

[@stixx9400]

Pros: cool spikey stuff Cons: chaos

[@soulles-qo4iv]

I just found out about this Warhammer 40k and i instantly got interested

[@lostnumber08]

"Heresy-proof Cockrings." Hitting the merch shop when?

[@JimBox810]

Con - Regardless of what you choose, your soul gets torn to shreds by demons.

[@blownapartmovies2243]

I always wonder whether the Ork gods are some sort of god, like the 4 and the emperor, so orks like ghazgull thraka are basically deamon princes for gork and mork

[@mastadonking3816]

Kitten: *THIS IS NOT FUCKING CANNON!* Fans: *YES IT IS! DEAL WITH IT!*

[@sterasigma8734]

A figure for Kitten the T'au Lover? Nice.

[@SquashGuy02134]

A custodies with a duel disk might be the best thing I've ever seen

[@dac314]

Shieldhost Proteus LIVES ON!

[@MonkeyPooFlingers]

Rations are corpse starch, a smaller portion might be a bonus...

[@mik4483]

I chuckled whenever majorkill pronounces tzeench as titsnitch

[@goldenbrigain7031]

So...why not just look at the positive aspects of each chaos god, and praise that instead? You'd get power, you'd get immortality, and you wouldn't have to deal with all of the nastiness while getting all the benefits. Or, just praise that 'greater good' indian God in the warp that the Tau have to dislike so there isn't an objectively good option in 40k. Seem's like something that's willing to pull me out of the warp and generally be a good bro is prime material for a high-quality God in my book.

[@MC-wb7cp]

Issue is positive aspect or not, its heavily overshadowed by all the negative aspects that are worshipped and fed into the warp by all the negative emotions and actions which are a lot more common in 40k.

[@Chuckler127]

I'm under the impression that the bad aspects of Chaos are a "packaged deal." If you don't embrace the bad with the good, the Chaos Gods don't care for you. It's all or nothing.

[@keennickolas8575]

1:58 xD OMG! this is soo nice and cute! xD

[@mattkite7246]

Custodes with a duel disk. It may not be what we wanted, but my god it's what we needed.

[@grandinquisitor8335]

It's meritocracy taken to the extreme, Chaos will 99% kill you early and horribly, but 1% you get to be a daemon or chaos champion or something. Your odds are still low, but they’re not zero. Joe from accounting might become a powerful servant of chaos and be the next Horus, but he could also become a failure falling in disgrace. The imperium is basically pledging yourself to chaos without any of the rewards, at least Chaos gives you the "chance" of becoming something. For every Champion though theirs countless millions that failed and no amount of strategy, planning, foresight, fighting, and firepower could save you

[@dreamcastH]

Love fresh majorkill In the morning.

[@brendanmuller7301]

Now do a video on if it's possible for humans to use the waaaagh

[@azazergon7995]

pros: everything cons: nothing source: trust me

[@kinstun5382]

i like to imagine a primaris space marine watching this while filling out applications to different chapters

[@ryanlanca9927]

"Final episode" in relation to TTS = sad feels

[@patrik9328]

”You filthy heretic! BLAM!!” i screamed a bit

[@stephenrowe2830]

I wish the Kitten model was still available 😭

[@ge9367]

Drinking and fighting for the Allfather, what more do you want apart from the WOLFTIME!

[@donelkingii3738]

Slaneesh is the best. He does that thing with his/her tongue.

[@NornQueenKya]

Join chaos: your soul gets ripped apart when you die Don't join chaos: Soul gets ripped apart when you die But hey. Maybe if you're lucky when you joined chaos, you'll grow powerful enough to become a mindless slave, simply no more then an extension of the chaos god ruling over you. So there's that.

[@armoroftruth3166]

I suggest to do the same video about the Tau

[@geezus6315]

Clicked this faster than my dad left me

[@cpt.psychosis3439]

This comment goes harder than my dad's belt

[@WW-zt1zs]

What are you, space marine?

[@kraios1996]

That's slow

[@bobrbw]

In M42, chaos cults play this to people, but cut out the bad parts

[@farright118]

It seems like if your powerful, stong or chaos is in need you can bet a better deal. So maybe if your lucky you can get a better contract

[@v_artra5399]

RIP TTS...RIP...we all miss you.

[@Shifty51991]

I was wondering where that guardian spear went at the start of the video lol....

[@thesoldierattheend191]

I have a little 40k fight channel and my chaos marine videos always gets much more views than loyalist ones. Guess chaos is more popular for some reason

[@SandrockCustom]

GREAT vid, but Majorkill didn't mention 2 types of chaos followers Chaos undivided followers: Have no single patron god, hence the name & People that are born into or recruited by cults/warbands as children. Can't say no if that's all you have and know!

[@kp1656]

Majorkill: Hmmm, join chaos or stay with the imperium? The alpha legion: Both. Both is good.

[@TheTrueFeleas]

Omg you made Kitten!!!!!!

[@skydream1070]

0: 48 was very funny

[@RiffSilverthe1andonly]

DO AN EPISODE ON YARRICK

[@uwuwithcthulhu2300]

Gotta love soul tickling

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Only the emperor is worthy of worship

[@beowulf4545]

The guardian spear was not a prop. Majorkill is always ready

[@pushyasaieraag2141]

"You will be constantly feeling depressed and empty.." Hey! Just like how it is in real life : )

[@flipnutdodad8841]

I really wish I had a friggin resin printer.

[@dexybanez2518]

Yes lord inquisitor, this video right here!

[@patrickbovard2054]

The new Majorkill mini is sexy

[@OMalleyTheMaggot]

>comes with a yu-gi-oh duel disk I want it

[@MrVelyx]

on of the favorite part of an Episode is when you descripe your Hentai in a creative way, based on the current episode. This was one of the best so far

[@thedisturbedpreist]

I should rewatch tts

[@yellowj489]

pro: chaos con: chaos

[@SUPEROGRE5000]

1:49 the duel disk is needed to play a children's card game.

[@alibaba-255]

Slannesh probably gives you the most up front after all who doesn’t want to delve into their deepest darkest depths of depravity and hedonism. Just forget the fact you will have to continually have come up with more extreme acts in order to feel anything diminishing returns be dammed

[@pedromoura1446]

Wait... Wait wait wait... THERE'S PROS?!

[@Konstantinos340]

RIP Siggy.

[@totej39]

What about chaos undivided pros cons ?

[@jondavidev]

Days since Majorkill mentioned Sigismund back to zero.

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

So...What if you join Chaos Undivided?

[@hometownboy6537]

This video right here Inquisitor!

[@jiminaknot]

That’s it, I’m joining Chaos

[@Darth_Bateman]

Gork Mork and Zorcy

[@incognitopotato3516]

Hey majorkill could you do a voided on the robots the mechanic is use. I know about the castellen but don’t the mechanic is have more robots than that.

[@jorgealarcon2704]

00:47 GOOD! cuz that tshirt was fucking up me eyes ! ahaha

[@FlavourCF]

Im kinda new to Warhammer, been binge watching all your lore videos recently and now I'm kinda confused, if Fulgrim is in a constant state of pleasure, why did he recreate his planet and did all the orgy stuff with it ? I thought he'd eventually got bored because he doesnt feel the same pleasure anymore so he repeats the cycle and even got mountains of bodys on his planet. Or am I just stupid (I can totally accept that) ?

[@carljohan9265]

Given the traitor primarch winrate against loyalists, doesn't that make Corvus quite the badass?

[@oddtomato1049]

But what about chaos undivided? What if i were to commit myself to two or more chaos gods?

[@MrFallenone]

Like the Word Bearers? ... dunno they seem pretty cooked too.

[@kendallpopham7769]

kitty mini? shut up and take my money!

[@michasalamon8315]

I still wait for a moment when TTS returns. Ps. What about chaos undivided? It seems like a loophole to worship chaos and not go crazy too soon.

[@MrFallenone]

Word Bearers.

[@JascDark]

Chaos, one HELL of a Drug.

[@michaelmccready1497]

Is it possible to join 2 chaos gods?

[@trinstonmichaels7062]

Trinston was here .

[@Its-Just-Zip]

I'm just gonna go do what ever the fuck Corax did to let him turn into a murder of crows