"Are All Ships Racist!?" Piers Morgan On Cancelling Football Badges

Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by podcast host Hotep Jesus, author Bonnie Greer and TalkTV contributor Paula Rhone-Adrien to debate whether Manchester United and Manchester City should remove the ships from their club crests as the emblem may have ties to historic slavery.
Piers suggests it is ridiculous as Manchester didn't adopt ship imagery until 30 years after slavery was abolished. Paula however explains that slavery still continued after its abolition so historians should look into whether there is a connection.
Hotep goes on to say that these notions are a waste of time and doing nothing in the fight against racism. He also adds the reason he thinks women care so much about these issues is because they are "more emotional" than men.
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[@colbymassymusic5976]

As a black man, this is ridiculous. No one owes any apology to something that happened years and years ago. If we want to see a change, we gotta let the past go. Doing all of this won't change anything but make everything worse than the time of slavery.

[@jimmyjump6295]

I really do think in all honesty your response was so sincere and absolutely spot on. I am white I hate that slavery happened absolutely beyond doubt. We should all seek to be equal and move on. Whites have been slaves too. Why can't we all focus on the future and make it better. I'm sick and tired of having to feel guilty for being simply white. Spot on you speak sense

[@janbrown9195]

These people need to get a real job that actually makes them to tired to keep dragging up the past

[@bentheking2452]

i agree. i have personally seen a rise in hate speach and a divide since the BLM thing kicked off. it's like it degraded relations and took us back 30 years or so. i would never do the kneel down and give the knee thing as i myself have never been disrespectful or had any hate for black people and come from a background of simple poor welsh mining folk who i doubt had any hand in the awful slavery of the past. all this nonsense is a gateway to more hate for sure

[@gregoriusmike]

If it's ridiculous why does Piers have them on? So much of the media takes advantage of vulnerable people and it's weak. It's just another distraction of a countless many from the real issues going on.

[@sfisomlondo6699]

Then allow others air their discomfort about it just because you're black doesn't mean you speak for everyone who is black.

[@Sietruc]

“Try being a black woman.” Yeah, her life must be really stressful if she can waste time complaining about a little ship on a badge.

[@bertspringdog]

Piers already identifies as a black lesbian so he must know the struggles

[@michellequinn4115]

@@bertspringdog lol

[@megansummersides4255]

👏👏👏👏

[@cspace1234nz]

....these are utterly ghastly women. This is what happens when you don't have to work for a living.

[@anfg7376]

she gets well paid for voicing her opinion on these matters....easier than many other more meaningful or productive career choices

[@VALTERFIAL]

Coming from a mixed white/black family and being 100% against racism. Playing the racism card against everything creats just more racism and people loose the sympathy for the cause. Totally agree with Piers!! It's exhausting!!

[@mitchellolson2667]

The two ladies called this dude "brother" half a dozen times and then get upset when he says "sister" once. 😂

[@michellebrown3868]

Exactly what I thought 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@tur00tle]

Manchester Uniteds Crest literally has an emblem of the Devil and they're worrying about a ship 😂

[@frankekigha]

Bruuh

[@andyyates9176]

😂don't start 😂they haven't seen it 😂agenda driven victim warriors 😂

[@stephensibley]

He missed that. Good point

[@fzzz1366]

Habibi dont lead them to that

[@JDTee79]

😂😂😂😂 Great point!

[@adamsidlow2021]

He said women are emotional and then the 2 women start making noises and trying to interrupt him…. Proving his point literally seconds after saying it. Priceless ❤

[@geezer1471]

exactly 😅

[@rgarcia7392]

Ignorant people are emotional. IMO, it has nothing to do with IQ. Christopher Hitchens was emotional at times and very ignorant, but he was as bright as anyone else. He simply allowed his passions to cloud his judgement.

[@Jeff-iq7oe]

They were instantly triggered and got emotional. You’re correct, his point was proven before he ever finished his sentence.

[@juliefreds4594]

I’m a 43yr old American woman but I agree! Us women put feelings into situations that they shouldn’t!!! I don’t think it would be a good idea for a woman to become president because of that fact!

[@Hani_Santa]

You serious? So you expect that if you offend somebody, they just sit and listen without any reaction? This has nothing to do with being a woman and so called emotional.....They have every right to be surprised even Piers Morgan seem to be surprised.

[@jn45672]

I'm Irish, 1000s of us got shipped to Carribbean as slaves, you don't see us protesting about man city's ship emblem..utter nonsense

[@wolflair3329]

The audacity of an island race to have ships represent their history.

[@tonychapp4269]

You have to admire her commitment to keeping racism alive 👏👏👏

[@infadel66]

PMSL

[@EveryoneneedsaGary]

She will be recognised for centuries, for the woman that proved racism still exists. Maybe a statue or two put in place of winston Churchill who knows what proud woman she must be 😂

[@leecrowder4934]

She's made a career out of it...

[@Nelson890]

She wouldn't have a job if she didn't. These people want racism to survive. They have identified as victims their entire life and have probably always had their own way.

[@Humble_Grumble]

It really does feel like that. There isn't any racism in the UK but there is a hell of a lot of demand for it.

[@nachothps1288]

As a German guy who was born in the early 80s I can promise you I would never apologize for what happened in Germany in WW2. Do I support what happened? Hell no. but why would I have to apologize? I had nothing to do with it.

[@colinlock-lv9vv]

totally agree with you i was born in 1970s britain.

[@joshuaalta8248]

Agreed, we need to move on but atleast the people that were directly affected are still alive. There is a real claim for reparations where it can be proven that families were robbed and their wealth is sitting in a swiss bank. So atleast its somewhat relavent. if this was 2200AD, The reperation time period has passed. I am sorry.

[@joshuaalta8248]

my friends grandfather still has the number on his arm which when you look at it and know what happened, its like a holy sh*t moment. If I were to see a slave with whip marks on his back and chain scars, it would evoke the same emotions but if my friend had to try claim the same sympathy that his grandfather went through, it would not be the same.

[@omokoroa1]

A prime example of two women who fit 100% the saying - 'You can't cure stupidity.'

[@ernestankamahaikins9063]

As a proud Ghanaian 🇬🇭. watching that woman wear kente and spew gibberish is appalling 💔

[@katsinthecradle89]

She's about fashion and that includes political fashion.

[@valkiyri]

She wears it for a political statement to associate with her heritage, but I'd like to know when was the last time she actually visited Africa and for how long it was. Many black Western girls and older women pushing for 'African causes' have never actually been to Africa, but for and if, a wedding or a funeral.

[@meloshnikolic4304]

I'm a Serbian but was raised in Ghana since I was 2 years old and now I'm 34....I experienced some racism towards me...But very rarely...And if I was to judge a whole country based on a few racists then that would make me an ignorant and stupid man..If I ignore all the help I got from my Ghanaian brothers and sisters just because of a few racists then call me a foolish man...all this woke and cancel culture is soo stupid...I will never take the bait....And will always love everyone as long as they don't hate me...

[@henryperez606]

Thank you for your comment. My family originally is from Spain. Maybe I walk around in a flamenco outfit or a bullfighter suit

[@treesart6914]

Why? You think it is cultural appropriation?

[@newt1834]

I’m a Nigerian living in Ireland and I dealt with the worst form of ethnicism back home in Nigeria than racism in Ireland. I’m exhausted listening to these disgruntled people who are just money hungry and don’t know anything about the issue they claim to fight for.

[@Skin-ve2tt]

You are a breath of fresh air 😊

[@dalesmith6666]

Well said. 👍

[@Keell444]

So well said!

[@greatworld8230]

Exactly, I am a Nigerian living in Nigerian and tribalism is still the bane of our democracy and so it is in several African countries but you see a country that gives you equal opportunities alongside its native citizens and you still have the effrontery to complain when it isn't as if you have it better in your country of origin. Just shut up and live your life, gosh!!!

[@lefat4697]

@@greatworld8230 respect you Sir; how well said

[@Blackenedification]

that cancel culture has to stop, it's beyond pathetic

[@hakamabdul2224]

This is a proof that you can make a problem out of everything. I remember in my philosophy class we were asked to make a question out of anything and debating it.

[@TheFalx]

as Morgan Freeman once said in a very famous interview: "If you wanna stop racism, stop talking about it!!".

[@Loverofdaimbars]

That was first said by morgan freeman i believe

[@fredopere7134]

I'm a black guy and find this conversation ridiculous. I live in Africa and it makes me realize that people in the West have run out of problems so they are looking for new ones. Ships on an emblem? Really?

[@romystumpy1197]

You hit the nail on the head

[@MsGreenmermaid]

Exactly

[@volpeverde6441]

Well said....sir....

[@bowlingbill9633]

It's not all people of the west it's just a minority !

[@joniswinton7350]

I am sick of past history on black slavery there is always slavery and not just black slavery

[@soulsteela01]

Poor Piers. Having to deal with so many lunatics. Thank you for all you've done. 💪💪💪

[@billzlaurenz6482]

How has piers Morgan become the pillar of sanity in society 😂😂😂

[@Rikard_A]

Piers Morgan is more about sensalism then newscovering.

[@CradaOC]

There must be something wrong with the world when I agree with Piers more and more

[@KamillGran-ch5sb]

There is complete insanity taking over the west.

[@mammusaeinki6317]

Who can we Vikings go after for money?

[@ajax2.087]

Don't forget his COVID sins. They are too grave and sever. I'll never forgive and forget

[@shinwata8396]

No No, there is something wrong with the world when you have idiots who think ships are racist!!!

[@avalerie4467]

Lol. Like the rest of us, Piers is maturing. As we mature, we get more and more conservative. Old adage - if you are young and are not liberal minded, you have no heart. If you are older and are not conservative, you have no brain.

[@tomben6180]

The people running Manchester when the ship was first put on the Coat of Arms were staunch abolitionists and Manchester hadn’t had involvement with slavery for generations. The ship symbolises Manchester as an industrial city and it’s connections with trading with the world. It’s absolutely insane to link it to slavery.

[@armondtanz]

The way united have been over the last 10 years they should change that ship to the titanic!

[@sheshd]

​@@armondtanz HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@maggiea8537]

Well said.

[@MrMRW14]

And sail ships went down the Manchester ship canal. Nothing to do with slavery.

[@patbaron8197]

No one ever mentions reparations from the black nobles from Africa who actually sold their own people to the European slave traders. Or the African tribes that enslaved white people. No one ever talks about the Romans enslaving Europeans including the British. If everyone pays reparations we would just be exchanging money to each other because we all, more than likely, have suffered from the actions of our ancestors with regards to enslavement.

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

I used to wear my Blue Peter badge (with a ship on it) with pride, not because I won it in a competition, but because I secretly wanted to own slaves.

[@helenn6061]

😂

[@davehallett810]

I used to like old spice aftershave because of the little ship on the bottle, and every time I put some on all I could think about is the slave plantation 🙄

[@dvangils227]

😮😂😂

[@tommykempo8962]

😂

[@briangoodwin5986]

lol

[@StrobeFireStudios]

I watched this again 3 months later and its so funny how quickly this devolves into an argument

[@msteingart]

“Brother Hotep…chuckle, chuckle. Brother Hotep…chuckle chuckle…” Hey chucklehead, if your mouth is open, your ears are closed.

[@Tae_Hyun0.0]

7:53 Calls him, “brother” 9:47 Calls him, “brother” 11:20 Calls him, “brother” back to back 11:28 offended he calls her, “sister” What game are we playing here. These women were absolutely ridiculous here. And should be ashamed of their behavior. He was honestly trying to have a genuine dialogue with them, and they immediately outcasted him from the moment they realized he wasn’t on their side.

[@goonz6249]

It was the fact that he only called them that once he was called out

[@Lemonclaw]

I wanna watch them watch this interview and react to it lol. Because that was hard to get through. Lol

[@Beezer1742]

@@goonz6249 pretty sure they were calling everyone and everything out the whole time. Ridiculous.

[@StellarAudyssey]

Generally, wmn have no integrity or honour.

[@jessicalastname6865]

These women are so embarrassing and ignorant, it's appalling. It's literally impossible for me respect their behavior, I was impressed with their appearance and had high hopes, but they really , REALLY , let down women AND "black" people. It's just gross

[@hardcorepietie]

We live in an age where people, who never wronged anyone in their life, have to apologise to people who were never wronged in their lives.

[@charlesross2439]

This started in the Uk when blair told us to say sorry for the Empire.

[@jkazzie2521]

Well said. I won’t apologise for something I had nothing to do with.

[@BigGen222]

​@@jkazzie2521 we're copping here in Australia as well, being part of the Commonwealth.

[@damionbujan6218]

I could enlighten you as to why this is happening, but instead I'll just look at you clothed in my great great grandfather's wealth from my position of abject poverty and listen to you from your moral high ground. You're absolutely right.

[@damionbujan6218]

Oh, and to not be mistaken, I don't support the bullshit these women are spewing. Black leaders are still being killed today, and you decide to fight a damn ship on a flag? Nonsense!!!

[@Birds4lifeAnya]

As a women im truly sorry for these demented things.

[@raphaelandrews3617]

The thief will always complains that it is unfair, when he is told he has to return what he has stolen, but he is always happy that he is allowed to keep the things he stolen from the rightful owner.

[@psilocypher]

She’s consistently calling him “brother,” yet wants him to call her by her name and seems insulted when he calls her “sister.” 🙄

[@micklawton1934]

Exactly... And she would lie TO YOUR FACE if you pulled her up about it. HYPOCRITES to the last, every damned one

[@SmilusMusic]

😅I think they were just having some fun with each other 😊

[@charleshicks3140]

@@SmilusMusic I agree 😂

[@alijrob]

“Brother” is used in a derogatory way by black people referring to a black man when he’s perceived to be taking a stance against the black race in an argument or debate. It’s a low key passive aggressive way to call him an Uncle Tom. Almost as an attempt to remind him of his blackness. I don’t engage with people like that.

[@Gmjd64]

@@SmilusMusicno they weren’t ! Paula gets offended over everything !

[@mustalks7426]

As a black British man, I couldn't disagree more with this. People love to be a victim of anything and everything. I'll speak out when I see real obvious racism

[@alanmurray5963]

@MH I think the above comment is soooooooo racist!!!!😂

[@mustalks7426]

@@alanmurray5963 how?

[@decai6899]

@@mustalks7426 becuase you dont agree with those woman xD

[@yvonnenewton1031]

Thank you sir for speaking common sense.

[@zamlot2219]

Well said

[@GerraldLyon]

I didn't even know about this until they brought it up

[@craigcollins404]

"Don't refer to me as sister" but her next breathe is brother🤣🤣🤣

[@kokoeteantigha389]

As a black Nigerian who's done a bit of probing into history too, I am flaming angry that other blacks have made a crusade out of this issue all for the sake of victimising whites with eternal guilt over slavery that we in Africa were equally engaged in. The practice was something so endemic that growing up in the late sixties my grandmother (who was over a 100 at the time) was familiar with the practice and could point to branches of the family that had been brought in as slaves. On a visit to a neighbouring town along the coast of Southern Nigeria, I stumbled on a row of cannons facing the river that I was told was used by African chiefs to fight back British Navy Anti-slavery ships. In all the blather of that woman, how is it everyone is forgetting it was the British and Americans who did the unprecedented to - not only abolish the practice - but fight wars to end it?!? My blood boils when I see people like that lady on the panel spouting such gibberish and being given a hearing! Yes, let her speak, but let's all know she is speaking from her deep ignorance. Her voice grates on my very soul as she brays along about things she knows zilch about.

[@alexd9134]

Well said

[@aw299]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@taiwooloko]

You couldn't have said it better

[@achillesglacia7700]

These are not Africans let me tell you, these women are Americans, the ignorance? , the contradiction in every sentence? Cmon it cannot get more American than that, this is Americans have become after trump and the zombie partisan war virus hit

[@ELN355]

As an Englishman (And a Manc lad born and raised,currently in Bangkok) Thank you.

[@metalghost8715]

When I was a kid I used to love drawing pictures of ships, not because of slavery but because I wanted to be a pirate. Do I now have to apologize to all black people and pay extra taxes to black people as an apology for drawing ships when I was 6? This is ridiculous! The ships were added years after the fact and are probably more to do with Manchester Canals than slavery. And so this nonsense has to stop. THE WORLD HAS GONE NUTS! I want to get off. Thank you.

[@johnwhitehead6720]

​@@HIP54 nothing to do with slavery I'm sick of this BS

[@fernandoortiz2424]

According to wokeness and stupidity... you could be a slaver in the future.

[@teresabelshaw4262]

Does everything offend people 🤔

[@teresabelshaw4262]

​@@johnwhitehead6720 anything for money

[@jimsim8736]

@@HIP54 Notice how black liberals ignore the fact their race is the largest enslavers the planet has ever known. Pure projection.

[@dinobernardi170]

These women need to get real.

[@nopqust]

They’re offended by the “emotional woman” remark than proceed to let their emotions get in the way of a useful debate.

[@markwrench6334]

As a black man, I would like to apologise for the massacre my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather lead upon the Igbo tribe, killing 109, injuring 85, raping 47 and enslaving 32. I feel a deep sense of shame and feel duty bound to spend my life apologising.

[@mikejones-tf6zo]

learn your history, the Arabs (Muslims) were the first slave traders, also check out how many white, European people who were captured around the Barbary Coast, the Ottoman Empire, history isnt about picking what bits are acceptable to you.

[@rabbott-ee4yu]

Did you send them a cow in reparation!

[@iaintmadatcha]

Who u apologising to?

[@iamplay797]

Doesn't matter how much money are you gonna pay for your apology that is what is important here

[@dieterobst6290]

Apology accepted

[@philippschaefer3950]

I’m literally speechless It’s so hard to watch This How disrespectful are these women

[@richardplume3212]

The clowns r runnin the circus

[@Music-Is-Real-Love]

💯.

[@stevencottam7570]

As Morgan Freeman said when asked how do we stop racism, he replied stop talking about it

[@gary8306]

As a white man i’m glad I live rent free between these ladies ears. Rule Britannia. 🥰🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@dannyfreeman953]

It's easy to be offended when you spend all your time looking for things to take offense to

[@Choopachoopapa]

Underrated comment

[@Loverofdaimbars]

That's why i changed my mindset. I used to always look for the negative and it was ruining my life. Great comment.

[@moeyounes237]

She wants a historian to investigate it, but if a historian said it’s not racist she won’t agree

[@omnipop4936]

Because she only wants to hear from *_her_* historians. (I guess she just forgot to mention that part.)

[@Tayl-top]

gosh she is so beautiful

[@karendowney3271]

That’s absolutely right, I feel they were arguing just because they wanted a slot on Piers Morgan uncensored! It’s ridiculous

[@anthonytaylor3989]

​@@Tayl-top not inside she's not.

[@Leon-lt5gv]

Yes ' proberly a black one ' otherwise this will be racist 😩

[@user-tm6hg9xu2v]

All cultures and races have been enslaved at one point in time, not to mention there are many societies that still enslave humans of their own/other culture and race which is ridiculous to think about but is still going on today. At the end of the day we need to put more energy into helping each other taking care of each other and finding a middle ground with ourselves because we are all human what makes us different is our race and culture but that’s good, maybe we can find out how to learn from each other.

[@DavidHarvey-po9le]

White countries have outlawed slavery, the only countries that still have it do not have a white ruler - they also invented it - White countries enslaved their own until they dabbled in other countries - they still outlawed it. Can you say the same for the countries that still practice it? Can you name a country that slavery is state backed - there isn't a white face behind it!

[@timbhaovard1327]

The way Paula and Bonnie react when a Otep expresses his opinion in absolutely ridiculous

[@frankymagana001]

They call him brotha and get offended when he calls them sista. He actually dealt with their absurdity better than I could have imagined. He never resorted to shouting and stayed with truth, despite 2 grown children shouting at him, putting words in his mouth, and giving snarky remarks. Well done!

[@altvamp]

This is what leftists do, it's one rule for them and anyone that doesn't agree is a racist or a right wing extremist.

[@achillesglacia7700]

I honestly don't understand the snarkinesss, is it fair to say that should be a breach of debate and it should be ended there considerd forfeif

[@altvamp]

@@achillesglacia7700 I honestly don't understand your comment.

[@tastethedifferencecheese]

"we have names, brotha" 😂

[@elainearchbold259]

those two crazies i heard one of them call him brotha and the y had the cheek to call him out. i hope i never hear those two again

[@isaacdonkor7309]

Honestly this is becoming exhausting. As a black African from Ghana I find it so nauseating to watch these so-called civil right advocates talking about such nonsense. By the way, have we stopped for a moment to consider the role of Africans themselves in the sale of their own kinsmen? Today, slavery is still going on in Mauritania and these folks are concerned about 150, 200 year old symbols. Shame on them.

[@richardkroll2269]

To me that is the real rub, that there is documentation that Africans sold other Africans to the slave trade. And that it still goes on today in small areas in Africa. Let them jump on a ship and go to Africa to correct the current problem while we try to work out the problems at home relating to inequality. As an American I look at California (left there for good in 2007) looking to pay reparations to those who in no way were affected by slavery.

[@annmhmoore0771]

I call them BLACK'tivist...lol

[@jasonhampson9579]

Spot on.

[@jerrycooper7300]

I will never apologize for something I did not do.

[@hardywatkins7737]

"There's nothing wrong with saying sorry". - Except when the person has nothing to apologise for.

[@deedee3614]

I am African and I think the world is going nuts on so many levels. We’ve got real issues in our societies not this! Let’s just focus on being kind and loving each other while we solve the current issues like poverty

[@ianbenson21]

Well said x

[@loganblackwood2922]

I think it is fair to say we are not capable of living together peacefully if we can have people on TV arguing for something this stupid.

[@sarahhumphreys3980]

I agree😊

[@catherinekeke9813]

You said it better

[@DutchObserver]

Amen to that!

[@pranovsaluja8067]

“Who is going to pay me and my family for what the Vikings did to us”, great point!

[@TheWarmcoldsurfer]

I live in Sweden. I feel guilt for what our Vikings did. I'm so sorry.

[@danielgradin8373]

​@@TheWarmcoldsurfer😂

[@dennisnielsen8030]

Ohh hell no!! As a Dane, i say we owe no one nothing, and it's gonna stay that way, I'm not gonna be part of that insanity 🤣

[@dennisnielsen8030]

@TheWarmcoldsurfer when the hell did Sweden castrate it's men 🤔 It's been a while since i crossed the bridge, so clearly missed out on it lmao

[@randomguy-]

@@dennisnielsen8030 To be fair; the swedes were never really a big participant in the raids on Britain. When the Danish and Norwegian Vikings were working hard conquering the isles, the swedes were doing pleasure cruises east. I think it was around that time they invented charter tourism.

[@craigcollins404]

Their reaction when he says "women are more emotional " proves his point🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sandrajackson7763]

The woman in orange could not be more condescending or arrogant if she tried!

[@AfrikanKid]

I am black and I am African,and I live in Africa, but I am not offended by these flags at all. They actually have nice designs if I am honest. These black ladies don't represent most of us. Let's stop fighting about little things and help each other make the world better through love and empathy

[@GORILLABREATH1]

Its always the Blacks who have never been to Africa who are the hell raisers.

[@chrisclayton2907]

These are woke black ladies who are wanting entitlement. They aren't African. Big difference. Black karens

[@iche8081]

Also the City of Manchester's coat of arms depicts a ship. All to represent it's industrial past. For which the Manchester ship canal was contructed. To import & export goods for industry. The canal though, was constructed some 30 years or so after the abolition of the slave trade. Doesn't mean a thing. Are we all to look at a ship now & suddenly think of slaves.....I don't think so! Things are getting to be ridiculous.

[@francis05banda33]

We in African we don't Care

[@jamcock8187]

@Akili...so many of you white people come on here saying you're black before disrespecting black people...go to hell. And if you're "black", we don't want ignorant traitors like you amongst us. These sisters ARE TRUE REPRESENTATIVES of proud, conscientious black people, most of us. Go and take those "nice designs" with all the racist symbols there is a decorate your home. Leave us black people alone.

[@ricksanchez4111]

Got mad at him calling her sister one second after she calls him brother LMAO

[@nottelling4828]

Yeah, I caught that laughably-hypocritical comment. Some people you just need to write off and not waste time with. This sister is one of them.

[@avalerie4467]

If it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

[@conalcarolan2542]

They said "he" and "him" and as soon as he says 'she' they lose it. Seems like they are just out of things to do with their lives.

[@sanjayesomaroo6608]

Can’t say this can’t say that ! I’m 75 this year lived on rations in the fifties enjoyed my teenage year in the 60 raised three children and was looking forwards to my retirement. All this agro at the moment is upsetting . After the 2 nd world war we were just happy to be alive .

[@berranari1]

@@sanjayesomaroo6608 Just ignore them mate. You say whatever you want.

[@jerrycooper7300]

Enough of this insanity.

[@Deano-Dron81]

“Are all ships racist?” 😂😂 I can’t stop laughing

[@lanouek]

I owe no one an apology for something that didn't happen to anyone alive today. This is ridiculous, victimhood is addictive. These 2 women are beyond rude, can't let anyone talk without noise and crackling.. hard to hear their point when acting the fool

[@Aerojet01]

I agree. All these left wing woke activists have so much in common; they talk over people, rude, obnoxious, narcissistic and a big chip on their shoulder. As a mixed race person, I'm concerned about real issues in 2023, such as the cost of living, rate of inflation, house prices etc... A picture of a boat is the least of my problems.

[@kiaranturner3319]

Agreed brother

[@Gmjd64]

Exactly !!!

[@Gmjd64]

@@Aerojet01they don’t have a chip more like a whole F**king potato ! 😂😂😂

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

The cultural nuvonazis wont stop. The left always existed until the second ammendment allowed for a second party, the right... in england and in the whole world people were controlled by big government or big monarchy.. they wont let themselves evolve out of a thousands of years old way of living..

[@johnw4237]

Stop giving these crazy people air time. The more you give them the worse they'll be. And they never let you talk or make your point. All they do is scream and shout over you cause they can't defend the crazy narrative they're trying to push. And sitting laughing like little children when a black man comes on and talks sense is disgusting behaviour.

[@mrjdbrn]

Please let them continue to expose theirselves

[@rocarolan2003]

It's done for clicks. They find the only two people in the world that want this and pretend it's a big issue. Morgan is a nob. He could be talking about government ruining the NHS but no.

[@gugy68]

This whole thing is a grift to make money. I honestly don''t think any od the people claiming these stupid ideas are acting in good faith. I rather ignore and ridicule them to be honest.

[@nypinstripes2388]

@@gugy68 no, I think they actually believe it, scary I know.

[@supaslime2938]

Yeh these two did my head in, they definitely shouldn't be on together

[@fkoper]

HAHA. Great idea about that funny newspaper in the end.

[@thomasdacey7531]

In my family. I have a uncle who's so tired of people who believe that there's more then one race. He told me that we're all called the human race.

[@werdagouws6962]

Well said!

[@DavidHarvey-po9le]

So there's no such thing as racism. But today there is -everything that's white is wrong - so don't come to a white country.

[@civroger]

My ancestors were vikings and I laughed so hard when she seriously said that should be looked into. What a crazy woman :D

[@jedsithor]

I'm Irish so I demand reparations from you for the crimes of your ancestors! I'm thinking a lifetime supply of mead should do it. 🤣

[@TigerGill220]

Same here, let's all ask the roundheads and Romans to apologise

[@gameram6382]

I forgive you for your evil attacks to England, lol 😂😂😂😂 it's a joke.

[@markmorris7123]

I know right.. Africans enslaved Africans on a massive scale..Ottomans enslaved Greeks, Italians and other Europeans, Europeans and Amerucans enslaved Africans, Aztecs enslaved Naitive Americans, Mongols enslaved Chinese, Koreans enslaved Koreans.. Throughout history everyone enslaved people. It was seen as nornal

[@civroger]

@@TigerGill220 We're living in a Monty Python sketch. Reminds me of this one they had about this confused highway man starting out stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. Ending up holding up carriages, to then trying hard to make it so everyone on them had the same amount of wealth. Saying; "Blimey, this redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought." :D

[@Ant77696]

The arrogance exuded by these 2 women is incredible

[@cnhaygood1865]

The lady from Chicago really cracked me up! All the murder and mayhem there and she is worried about a damn sail boat! Clown world is off the hook!!! 🤡🤡🤡

[@scousemouse9715]

Throw in some ignorance.

[@pimpompoom93726]

It's not arrogance, it's self-absorption.

[@DeshCanter]

True. And even more hilarious, they get offended when Hotep mentions that women are emotional. What they don’t realize is that women constitute a majority compared to men, so since men are in the minority they are therefore empowered to characterize women any way they want!

[@booth2710]

that greer woman came to the Uk years ago had done very well here but spend her whole time during her stay here slagging off this country

[@mcasperger]

Victim's card flashing! I bet she don't travel on ship.

[@brendonhepburn1936]

Some people are so petty !!

[@sylviamaua745]

At school during history class, I was taught about Britain's naval strength dating back to the 1st Elizabethan age and how England defeated the Spanish Armada; how the navy played a part in both World Wars; explorers like Sir Francis Drake, Sir Walter Raleigh, Marco Polo, Vasco da Gama. Ships were just the mode of international transport during that time. I have never associated tall sailing ships as a symbol of slavery and I'm black.

[@ladyanfield5682]

Thank you Sylvia for your post, and I believe that most POC are as sane and based as you, I know my friends are, however grifters like these 2 are many and they boil your piss 😂 I have never looked on these ships and thought of slavery either, I look at them and think of the show “The Onedin Line” which was a show my mum always watched in the 70’s, set way back with women in big swishy dresses and real men 😂😂

[@hannahdraper]

Thank you !

[@DarkRaikon]

and now you know your supposed to Blame them blame people and items for being racist never be happy with existing and making a good life for yourself just blame and shout and demand money be given to you

[@braddo7270]

THANK YOU for this comment. Can you be PM? 🤣

[@kittymaher9395]

Well said

[@catherinehanner284]

Those two women proved the American guy's point. They were being very emotional,.talking over each other, screeching. Bonnie keeps saying listen and then failing to listen to anyone but herself.

[@michaelcrann6241]

Zzzzzzzzz they bore me senseless!!!

[@bernadettehays453]

These two horrible people wouldn’t let him speak, laughed, being rude to him. Now! That’s pure ignorance. There Again! What can you expect from them! Can’t expect anything else from pigs but a grunt!!

[@jasfan8247]

Psycho-analyse this!

[@janbrown9195]

Usual for her imo

[@mtadave6702]

Little known fact about those ships, they are on there to remember the Manchester canals, FCK ALL TO DO WITH SLAVERY!!!! Boats use to sail into Manchester as it was being built, trade canals!

[@midnightwatchman1]

It is time to end this madness of racist ships and racist babies I can't believe this is what we are discussing in 2023

[@mayshusalmighty7858]

The level of disrespect from those two women when Hotep was speaking, is astounding. If this had happened when a woman was talking, and two men started mocking her, there would have been an outcry....!

[@scarasara]

I know it was so disrespectful. It made me so angry.

[@jamcock8187]

@Mayshus Almighty...Hotep is an uppity Ni&ger...the kind of self-loathing so called "black people" who are black people's biggest problem today...so much more than the racists. These sell out traitors are the ones racist bigots use to fight against black people. The two beautiful intelligent black women were disrespected by this wolf in sheep clothing. Unless the black race get rid of these back stabbers, the race will never achieve much progress.

[@marcelk3847]

Its how they try to force a reaction or distracion. Could hit a sweetspot to her

[@jcdom3841]

Exactly!

[@daxdarve8817]

​@@zsbacskai7331 😅😅😅😂 sounds like someone got triggered had his comments and facts 😅😅

[@ethan-by5xo]

Slave labour was abolished in the UK in 1837 way before the shipping canals were completed in 1893 which the ship represents on both Manchester clubs badges. They haven’t even bothered to do basic research

[@mch2007uk]

I though it was 1807?

[@ethan-by5xo]

@@mch2007uk maybe it was, i’m not 100% but that’s just what i saw. all i know is that manchester united didn’t even adopt that badge until 1902 so it’s not even a debate anyway.

[@ElPigeonMan]

and african slaves never even came to britain, 1066 domesday book “any man who breathes the pure air of england is a free man” that’s why american slave owners would not come to england with their slaves, there was a case in 1791 where the slave become a free man soon as he stepped foot in england

[@davidcrosby7409]

And what about the slaves that existed in every African country because of Africans before and after Britain ended slavery

[@genwoolfe]

@@ElPigeonMan lol, The Doomsday book was written by the victors of 1066 twenty years later when the English were....enslaved! 🤣🤣🤣

[@briankreller6550]

It's like asking person A to apologize to person B for what person C did to person D

[@louisroberts9160]

Those women are so unbelievably rude. Sniggering and laughing and constantly talking when the guy was trying to articulate his point. And they can call him “brother” but he can’t call her “sister”. Amazing

[@juicynugget]

lmfao he killed em with that "waiting for my check from the romans and the vikings"

[@jasonburns7897]

The Romans massacred everybody in Carthage. Should their descendants sue Italians for compensation?

[@greenhornet8557]

Just Useless women ☕

[@MrWhatYT]

I always ask people about that, who gives me my check for the suffering my ancestors suffered. I’m still waiting for an answer. 🤷‍♂️

[@flumpyofdoom]

I think we are going to be waiting a loooooong time lol 😂

[@Loverofdaimbars]

Exactly

[@maireboy]

'Are all ships racist?' has the be the best line 😂

[@JGarner.2004]

They can’t eat football badges 😂😂😂😂, that guy just spoke my mind

[@gjbsarmeri3957]

We have fallen to the point of no return. The world will never be the same as it was 10 years ago.

[@kelly6739]

Creating a problem when their never was one.😵‍💫

[@Who-cu9eu]

Modern black people are not slaves. Modern white people aren’t slave owners. Why should white people pay for previous white peoples wrongdoings? Unity is the most important, not white people giving up their life and service to black people for their whiteness. It’s transverse racism to think that’s okay. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. History is terrible but I’m not part of the new chapter where white people let themselves become oppressed when the racial power shifts change to black people. This will just repeat 🔁 all over again except this time round future generations will be told about how black people also oppressed and enslaved whites 200 years later for revenge.

[@HIP54]

Really!

[@teresabelshaw4262]

Shitstirring I call it😂😂😂😂

[@shiffinryder2005]

They want attention...these shit act like they care because,in reality they need attention

[@Delete240]

I love how she started off by saying it was up to the historians to uncover the truth, and then when Piers told her what historians say, she’s just like “well we don’t know, that’s just one perspective”. It’s a waste of time talking to these people. No matter how many times you prove them wrong, they just keep coming.

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

Basically, she won't consider any history as true unless it confirms her own foregone conclusion.

[@Delete240]

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 exactly right

[@Antechynus]

Like any religion... woke is a cult just more intrusive than many others.

[@omnipop4936]

Writer C.S. Lewis said something very similar about people in his day who would constantly shift their ground and "move the goalpost" in an argument. Something like, "Be on your guard against such folks... they'll only waste your time."

[@Leon-lt5gv]

Some black people just want the race card back ' just picking on the uk constantly ' slavery still goes on in africa today ' they traded their own people ' with the roman empire ' but don't tell her that 🤣

[@bro_kevin]

"Are all ships racist??" LMAO

[@wernervanrooyen7866]

Piers Morgan rock's!!!

[@tundeakintayo5833]

51 year old man here. Supported United all my life. Only just noticed the ship yesterday. I wonder what the devil on the badge is thinking.

[@HajSa371]

🎉🎉🎉👌👌

[@mickfoskett6629]

He's thinking the world's going woke mad!!😱👹

[@andreananan7963]

😂 they better not touch our badges...these ladies are bonkers

[@snakeplissken5480]

he is think "my work is done"

[@4seth]

These people are beyond reason. I think we are getting to the point where even acknowledging them or taking them seriously is doing everyone else a disservice.

[@berranari1]

Yeah, it was painful to watch. I had to pause it and yell several times. My poor neighbours. It was funny to hear that crap about the Irish should complain to the Vikings.

[@mjones4083]

Couldn't agree more . It is a complete waste of time . They are so eaten up with (faux) victimhood that they cannot be rational or fair . They are takers of all of our advanced culture and opportunities and give almost nothing back which is of worth or merit or that we could very easily do without .

[@cabezadepija7318]

they have THE SAME rights as you

[@Parawingdelta2]

Absolutely. Far too much air time (or even air for that matter) given to these idiots.

[@Daywalker222]

That's exactly what is happening.

[@gman1003]

As a descendent of Germanic peoples, I am canceling myself for the savagery that took place centuries ago!

[@techmaster9123]

Love to see this great discussion between 3 proud strong black women

[@Doey135]

The fact that man is talking and making his point and both of the women are sitting there laughing with each other, real adult like

[@kevinb9830]

They're playing a game. They've made careers off of faux resentment and don;t want the gravy train to end.

[@notmenotme614]

You have to remember that Talkradio (and now Talktv) isn’t quality news but is only tabloid sensationalism. It’s more entertainment than factual. It’s like calling Jerry Springer a news channel, in fact Jeremy Kyle is a Talkradio presenter so that tells you everything.

[@sibbydems]

Was totally cringe to watch 🤮

[@Sam76889]

They were so rude.

[@ASBOMAN]

You know these times are fucked when Piers Morgan makes sense

[@neonskyline1]

😂

[@Jimmy-uh8vi]

😆

[@Haribo-om1wn]

😅 facts

[@muhammadnaseer1850]

🤔🤔😂

[@adamumagpire7848]

Couldn't agree more...I used to loath the man now I respect him.

[@9kazcat]

I burst out laughing at the title.

[@Mybassgruvin]

@10:42 No one changed the Minesota Vikings logo, that can be deemed offensive towards people with Viking ancestry. They didn't change it because they aren't so childish to see it as offensive and racist.

[@venicemitchell1407]

As a Black woman, I’m embarrassed by my own people ! This is disgusting how our people (black folks) always looking to be a victim in every area of life.

[@jamiebrown9642]

To be fair we are all individuals stuck on this planet together i personally try to get on and have a laugh with all, no need to feel embarrassed your ok ,im a 50 year old run of the mill white bloke and i dont quite get it saying that i dont get alot of whats going on to be fair😂

[@rayvinloony2322]

Creating more hatred, labelling Winston Churchill labelled racist, had Nazis landed on UK shores, there would have been no blacks left. 🤬

[@a.d.1563]

I get it when their is obvious and real racism. And because of this fact i like your words. Its out of time. Its a badge with a ship. Just a ship. And most players no matter the skin colour have no problem to play with the ship badge at their Shirt. Its just a ship at a badge.

[@Csal406]

You should be embarrassed by your own people. All you do is complain and blame everyone else.

[@markg1269]

It’s embarrassing

[@d3xmeister]

“Women are very emotional” Their reaction was priceless :))

[@rw8185]

"Whaaaat.. emotional... hihihihihi... omg... hihihihihi.. what is this? Woooooow!*mumbling & giggling*" Yeah.

[@DNGMaestro]

Yeah. It was emotional lol it’s hilarious.

[@Jonc85]

😂Hotep is my new favourite person! 😂 what a line! And to be honest, I couldn’t stop agreeing with him for the rest of the video! They proved his very point in every word they said! 🤦‍♂️ Piers is right, we’ve gone mad as a species together:)

[@tonemcduffie1812]

As a Black man all I can say is🤷🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂

[@tmitchell3131]

If you go out looking for the worst, you'll twist your mind to see everything as evil.

[@michaelcrann6241]

And then....... you deserve all you get hahaha!

[@knowthyself8233]

Facts

[@awilliekevinpaul3168]

bruh!

[@Tykeofficialmusic]

the fact that the two women are laughing and talking while that man talks says it all

[@kdburner7356]

They’re just trying to make him the villain in their minds so that they don’t even have to bother comprehending or understanding his point

[@winningjubbly9712]

The way these women chat to each other while the guy talks is beyond rude. What deeply unpleasant women they are.

[@leica_sl2]

The " Nitty Gritty Dirt Band " A great bluegrass band.

[@motalks2598]

As a British Asian who is the product of colonialism....this debate is a joke...agree with Piers, if you keep apologising for things that didnt involve you, then we will be in a constant loop of saying sorry and seeking forgiven for the past rather than focussing on today and tomorrow being made better

[@brianmeen2158]

White guilt is why we are talking about this idiocy right now. The white liberals caused this.

[@ajs41]

Some people are hoping to get money out of it.

[@pommiebears]

I can’t apologise for something I wasn’t there for, can’t change, and had no say in. I’m fed up with the constant bashing. Hopefully, it worked out ok for you. I hope you are happy and healthy. But, I won’t feel guilty for something I, or anyone I can trace back in my family, have done. I come from working class people. My great grandmother was in the workhouse in east London! Little more than a slave herself.

[@benjaminfranklin4760]

This is exactly what they want! Divide and conquer. The elites are laughing at us.

[@KeiranCounsellKC1994]

the constant loop is exactly what is wanted. if your constantly saying sorry and feeling guilty then theres constant reparations and money is involved in that, large sums of money. the constant loop gives so many perks and allows you to silence great swades of people from making an opinion should you be enclined to use such underhanded tactics, hell piers they could have just called privilaged to silence him, they claimed he did not have a shared lived experience. to hotep they could easily have implied that he was under the control of privilaged people or even a mouth piece for privilaged individuals. I seen it so many times and it really needs to stop and people need to get back to common sense solving of problems that actually affect people and treating root causes not the ideological swing causes. hell look at american police, brutality 100% of the time leads to the loss of life but they are not treating police brutality because they are calling it systemic racism

[@dalyonking]

As a black person I’m finding this extremely frustrating. By Calling racism on any old crap they can find it devalues what actually happened with slavery and when genuine acts of discrimination occur. It also seeks division which in turn is likely to cause actual discrimination. Why not give it a rest and just try to get on with each other?

[@raymondgilbert7266]

Well said,totally agree,these are virtue signallers

[@alexhoward2402]

Absolute facts , everyone struggles , it’s about working together to get through this rollercoaster called life . I see these ladies as bullies , pushing a dated agenda that isn’t relevant today , for their own gain. Like you say all it does it keep racism alive .

[@rebeccacarty3818]

This x

[@IntelligentArtefact]

FRAUD.

[@nicfreedman9873]

The fact that Africans trapped and sold their own as slaves, makes them the same as any person (black, green, white , yellow or any others) which is evil and what’s colour got to do with that fact???? Ships on a badge ffs……

[@rexmentula1089]

Lady 2: "..so we are getting more intelligent" Me: ????????????????????????????

[@martincollins7466]

The guy in America was so patient, the woman with the short hair, was so annoyingly rude. 🤦🏼