Are Armor Plating Kits Worth It Conan Exiles 2020

[@Firespark81]

I know many of you want to see bulk armor plating. I will do a separate video on it. So don't worry I did not forget it. :)

[@Firespark81]

Somehow managed to get some simple subtraction wrong lmao. It's all correct now. I triple checked all the numbers.

[@TheHonorableDanMal]

@@Firespark81 as soon as you opened the box with thick and master plating, I was like "NOOOOOO" hahahaha

[@Firespark81]

Gotta cover all the bases m8

[@johnheine4099]

@@Firespark81 did you make the bulk armor plating one?

[@rbu2136]

Excellent analysis. Thank you.

[@thorwulfx1]

For my thralls, I slap the armor plating on, as encumbrance is no issue. That, and they soak up a lot of hits. Even a small damage ablation over a long boss fight will add up, and perhaps allow them to regen through. For myself, I always go with the weight reduction kit. They're so cheap to make a free up so much encumbrance that it seems like the obvious choice. To be honest, I am not going to be face tanking the three skull bosses anyway, so a lot of my damage ablation is going to be from hiding behind my shield and running around in circles until the thrall takes aggro.

[@devilsadvocate1597]

Nice tests, shame you didn't try Light armour with bulked armour plating kits... I always do as it's +125 extra armour at a cost of +15 weight, but hey it's light so you can easy get away with that extra weight. You already carry more with heavy or medium unless you go mad with weight reduction kits :p

[@NorseGraphic]

Weight reduction for myself, and more armor for the thralls. I kite the bosses, while they tank them. It's super-easy to take on Red Mother, or other bosses. I use the bow to kite her to the stairs, and circle around her while my thrall hacks at her. I don't even use healing-arrows, as it's not necessary as the thrall has one stack of gruel in the inventory. Though I equip them with the flawless Acheronian longsword with the damage-patch making it do 54 damage, and equipping them with the Cimmerian Steel-armor. Because they're both relatively cheap and easy to make.

[@christianmcmillin6589]

Save some time weight reduction on heavy agility on medium master armor plating on light boom there you go

[@sebastianandresmejiagonzal896]

Doing God's work 👌

[@infernohellknight]

I used the bulked plating, it gives more but it also makes your armor super heavy even the light. Had to put encumbrance to the max.

[@provokatze]

I always use climbing platings on heavy armors since i can climb better with it than naked lol

[@gunna2cool]

Any thoughts on going weight reduction on the chest and legs then durability on boots, helm and gloves? Makes all my armour last the same amount of time and seems to be best for encumbrance

[@azraelbloodgamer4240]

It depends also on your level @firespark81. At higher levels I would agree that weight reduction is better versus armor plating but at lower levels you want more protection depending on the area your base is in

[@albertbergquist2113]

Or expressed another way, the godbreaker resulted in 2,5% lower damage taken with the plating, the light armor got 11% damage reduction.

[@Firespark81]

Look at you with your fancy percentages lol j/k ty for breaking it down a different way. :)

[@bronysaiyan5236]

Literally what was shown in the video lmao gg

[@joerogers2934]

I think you provide a really worthwhile service FS81, as do so many other hard working people such as your good self. My question, apart from weight reduction which is a must have and is soooo cheap, what items on the Tinker's Bench are worthwhile? For me, for thralls, I key in on endurance - unless you know better in which case I'm all ears (weird phrase, unless you have an ear fetish in which case, JACKPOT!)

[@ithlian]

Agree. For myself I use weight reduction. For thralls, though, bulked plating only.

[@ithlian]

@@KonFess ,well if you only fight, never harvest, and don't carry anything except buffs and heals, then maybe. But only for that case. And I doubt that anyone does that.

[@finalparadigm331]

@@ithlian I play on a pvp server and when I'm ready to fight I have a kit with bulk plating and buffs I use for only pvp I also have an encumbrance kit for farming resources with gliding joints and bulk plating and if I'm farming a dungeon I wear a weight reduction pvp kit that I don't care to lose so if I win I can walk out with more than I would if I added bulk plating

[@finalparadigm331]

@@ithlian we have an encumbrance build while we raid and he picks up others kits while we fight and I think the 125 armor advantage is slightly worth it if you have an encumbrance person behind you because you can tank slightly more damage

[@ithlian]

Wow... This is really complicated... Why do people raid in the first place?

[@finalparadigm331]

@@ithlian for loot and fights and thralls like tanner's alchemi and all that and to see which clan is superior

[@wheresmybannana2391]

I was wondering Would it be possible to make a thrall almost unkillable by giving it the best possible armour and invest as much as you can into agility as you can so that your thrall has a ton of armour and therefore negates so much damage that they can heal faster then they can take damage

[@Firespark81]

Interesting idea. Could be worth testing out

[@dlwatib]

A good fighter thrall already has so much health that they will survive pretty much any boss in the game with only decent hand-me-down armor and a stack or two of gruel. On top of that, you can always shoot their area with healing arrows to bump up their healing. Furthermore, gruel gives 6 health points per second (HPS). You can bump that up to 9 HPS by switching to enhanced gruel or 10 HPS by switching to exotic feast. Most melees that might kill a thrall will be prolonged battles, not one shots. It's a war of attrition... the combatant that inflicts damage the fastest (and heals the fastest) wins. It then becomes important for the thrall to have as much strength as possible and as good a melee weapon as possible so they can damage their opponent at a faster rate than they are receiving damage that they cannot quickly heal from.

[@wheresmybannana2391]

@@dlwatib yes this I know, all my thralls can take down a boss on their own but I was just wondering weather you could make a near unkillable thrall using this method. I was more thinking using it as a support thrall, imagine trying to raid someone and they have thralls that just wont die while being attacked by other hard hitting thralls You could also give this type of thrall the venom infused daggers so their low damage doesnt really matter and they become even more irritating to fight

[@wheresmybannana2391]

@@Firespark81 I was thinking that it would work really well with venom infused daggers

[@cryptowheat]

It would be too hard to test since you cant have FULL control over how our thralls lvl up

[@SetzarothTV]

They really need to buff these. It's not worth the extra weight to mitigate virtually unnoticeable amounts of damage. The current meta is basically all heavy armor anyway. It seems the more damage reduction you start with, the less the platings do. Which means mid-late game when you're making perfect/exceptional armor, even light armor might not see too many gains from these, effectively making these items dead content.

[@chargerfanbrian]

im really surprised nothing was done with the bulk platting. i was hoping some one would mention it on commits

[@TheFarix2723]

So if I understand the results, plating is good for light armors while you are better off using weight reduction for heavy armors. With medium armors, there is some benefit to plating, but is it better than using weight reduction?

[@BloodandGuts333]

Man they need to fix this it's so silly that they don't protect you that much. Can we like send a letter to the people that work on conan?

[@CrosseyedTenFour]

I always do heavy armor with the weight reduction. Nothing else matters to me

[@MarztheStoic]

From a numbers stand point those 3 to 4 points of mitigation can mean alot. This patch most people are using penetration builds. On average 50% of armor is being mitigated. In my mind anything you apply is valuable but only if you have alot of health. Maximum health paired with high armor values can prevent you from dying in those moments where you usually would. Also take into account the average damage you're taking per hit. The next hit is going to do more damage than the last.

[@Khalkara]

Its 4 points of damage.. Most end game weapons hit well above 10x that amount and bleeding ignores armor anyway so there is no scenario where that is gonna save your life. Making it effectively a waste of resources to put armor plating on the godbreaker (or any heavy armor for that matter).

[@bronysaiyan5236]

4 points from a thrall with a powerful weapon. Players itd be 1-2 points its just not worth it and i pvp quite a bit and hardly die

[@MarztheStoic]

Id still rather have some armor plating than not have it on heavy armor. Usuall I run 3 bulk plating with 2 armor reduction to get that 81 percent mitigation. The numbers are marginal but I still prefer to have that value of armor. I want to mitigate as much as I can while at the same time I understand the armor reduction kits are a great benifit since they keep your weight down.

[@bronysaiyan5236]

@@MarztheStoic yeah but 1 roll would benefit more from 5 bulk plating and those extra encumbrance points from armor reduction can go into grit and or agility for more rolls or better rolls and the 50ish lbs you lose from it is 10 points in encumbrance alone lol but its all on playstyle and plating is for the ones that cant roll lol

[@MarztheStoic]

@@bronysaiyan5236 honestly I dont need that much tier 1 agi is enough for me. With all my equipment,weapons and consumbles im sitting between 63-67 percent wieght. Armor reduction kits bring alot of value to the table in terms of reducing the weight of your gear and reducing the cost of stamina to your abbilities but I can manage very well with just 2.

[@Salty_C.J.]

Have you ever considered mixing chilled and regular godbreaker

[@shadowmcphantom]

I use the durability for myself and the extra armor kit for the thrall

[@Kaivana]

What about for thrall armor?

[@JohnMillertime]

So I have a question.. does the same diminishing return apply to Thralls? Or should you still equip them on thrall gear?

[@devilsadvocate1597]

If you have the resources (star metal) always give your thralls bulked armour kits as they don't suffer from encumberance so weight reduction is pointless. The +125 extra armour though will make a better improvement than the master kits +75

[@JohnMillertime]

@@devilsadvocate1597 Ya i am clear on the pointlessness of weight reduction (unless you want to steal armor from your thrall in a pinch) but the core of my question is the diminished returns... In his test the %reduction does not change when he was equiped with heavy armor. Does that appy to thralls as well?

[@Firespark81]

Yup all armor in conan works the same. However, thralls will not benefit from any other kit. So may as well toss the kits on there. But I would go for bulk or master if you cant craft bulk for whatever reason.

[@christophergilliam2328]

Armor plating is best used on thralls or light/medium armors. It’s wasted on personal heavy armor cause of diminishing returns past 1000 armor. Better off with weight reduction or gliding joints for personal armor.

[@Run_Ya_Pockets]

Hahahahaha why was this private for a while... Can you name the next test thrall "Bake Them Cookies Lucille" , I subscribed today bro this is all I ask

[@Firespark81]

Had to fix a mistake. Somehow manage to jack up some simple math. You know the usual lol. Welcome to the channel!

[@Run_Ya_Pockets]

@@Firespark81 I've been watching for a year... I'm part of the people who watched religiously for info but I just subscribed today, no idea what took so long

[@KiteoHatto]

How do you rename thralls ? Whats the name of the mod, please let me know

[@infernohellknight]

@@KiteoHatto There is no mod for that, you can now do it after the mounts update.

[@Run_Ya_Pockets]

@@KiteoHatto hahahaha I've never used a mod... just hit the top part of inventory where the name is and type a new one ( but I'm on ps4 so I might be wrong about pc)

[@AcracielProject]

Where u get that ui bars o.o?

[@MopWhoSmells]

Should have stated the damage difference as a percentage.

[@darkstargaming4908]

Does the over armor negate some of the penetration?

[@Firespark81]

That's a really good question that I don't have an answer for. May have to do a video on it.

[@Taemien]

@@Firespark81 If you're looking for the math: Damage Reduction = Armor / (Armor + 250), Armor Penetration applies to armor. So 100 dmg vs 600 armor would do 29 dmg, but with say 12% armor pen it would do 32 dmg

[@reedlarson302]

I prefer the weight reduction to the armor plating myself.

[@Legohaiden]

Armor plating has been and will always be a wasted item until they fix it. Best thing on light armor is Flexability kits, as you can literally climb forever with them on light armor. Best thing on heavy armor is weight reduction because its so damn heavy.

[@shadowwolf4223]

Are you thinking about making a pvp server for PS4? I really want one because there aren’t a lot PvP servers that get my attention and you imo could really make console players happy if you can make a server for us

[@MrFatbard]

i always used to use the durability on my armor so it wouldnt break as much but since godbreaker has so much durability i use the armor buffs and they really seem to help against the new bosses

[@SkrekkLich]

Stupid question incoming: What UI mod do you use in this video? Looks awesome.

[@Gorango27]

Hosav's UI Mod i believe

[@beckettfarkas4296]

After Siptah?

[@SUPA626]

Firespark do some pvp videos!!!!!!

[@Firespark81]

Hahaha nope.

[@stevenumerator]

Thank you for all the time and effort you put into assuring the accuracy of these videos! :)

[@brokentoes6721]

But what about kits for thralls?

[@Firespark81]

The damage reduction would be the same for a thrall as it is for you.

[@CCCPcommissar]

What I learned from this video is: BDSM is a good way to conduct researches.

[@Firespark81]

You mean you didn't know already? Heck, I thought everyone did.

[@56ur4]

Lol thanks for the experiment. Armor tinkering is so pointless. Weigth reduction is cheap and overpowered, plating gives you nothing but strips away durability. Fix these terrible numbers already

[@jlawsl]

And the difference in the armor itself. Damage wise, the God Breaker only prevented 2 more damage then the basic heavy armor. I know there are significant stat buffs on the God Breaker but it is still something to note for newer players or players that are aiming at grinding through the dungeon that the returns are indeed diminishing at higher level especially now that the armors almost all give the same heat and cold protection.

[@hrlarsen574]

So i returned to conan exiles after 6-7 months and what has happened to the game? I play on official and the game has become so laggy its unplayable. I play on ps4 btw.

[@gowther5446]

console

[@hrlarsen574]

@@gowther5446 Apperantly my character survived in a bush for 7 months offline so i was experiencing all sorts of bugs & heavy lag. Respawning fixed it all lol.

[@samuelbiesecker3930]

When you put the armor plating on your durability goes down. Of your armor

[@Firespark81]

Yup, that is also something to think about.

[@thomasnance6465]

31points still seems low tbh

[@liinnee2536]

To be honest, I don't think it's even worth having the godbreaker armor in the first place if you have the DLCs since the DLC armors gives you over 1000 armor value as well and they are way way lighter than the godbreaker armor. Meanwhile, although the godbreaker armor gives 12 extra points while the DLC armors only give 9, some DLC armors give all extra points in one attribute, which could result in saving more points.

[@justnoob8141]

I thought all DLC armors have the same base as basic 3 armor in both normal and epic

[@amadhollow635]

@@justnoob8141 the base are comparable to that standard armors but not the others With heavy plates I have over 1k armor with any given dlc The think about godbreaker is the perks on the couple peices

[@olif7yaotl]

Bulked plating

[@RanierMedic]

I honestly don't see the point in modifying the armor.

[@bronysaiyan5236]

Been saying this for about a year lmao

[@nated.2184]

Ive wasted so much star metal...

[@halil-1485]

Nate D. how

[@NorseGraphic]

Star Metal is super-easy to get. Just use 1 Grease-orb and 1 Demon-fire orb on each meteor, that's usually enough. You start from the Mounds of the Dead (obelisk) and walk up towards the Ymir-trainer. In that area is one large zone for meteors. The second large zone is the Frozen Slopes. I usually check this area first, then walk the ridge to the north-east, and follow the trail down to the Frozen Slopes area checking for meteors. I usually wear the Epic Vanir Settler-armor and spend at least enough points to get the temperature-reduction.

[@halil-1485]

Skeptisk just did this today for the first time its so easy to get i love it we have a Map at the Ice Temple

[@tenthgen4947]

Hhmmm that settles it most of the stuff they put in Conan isn’t worth a da&$ stacking bleed means nothing stacking poison means nothing, really no difference in the star metal pick axe or a Steele pick axe, the only armor that’s worth anything is heavy armor that settles it the only good thing is the armor reduction kit period. They could at least set the players hp to a thousand meaning the hp isn’t worth a da@$ either and don’t let me get started on the stamina. My advice with 500 hours in this game stop trying to play the game for everyone and make it right and more people will play it and others will comeback.

[@dirtpoorchris]

Im playinng WAY too manny games annd havinng funn to retry Conan Exiles right now. Maybe when they add pvp section to practice against players and earn cool pvp cosmetic unlocks for the real game

[@tjhobannew]

[@erca3319]

First

[@dlwatib]

Congratulations! You win the KZbin video of your choice.

[@briansmith369]

Outdated. It doesn't exist anymore. No such thing as a tinker's bench either

[@MedievalFantasyTV]

What? Really? It's been a month since I stopped, I am moving.

[@Hagosha]

@@MedievalFantasyTV no, idk what Ice Reaper is on. They still exist.

[@screamingfang]

Tinker's bench do exist. They're called Tinker's Workbench

[@celofficial101]

2022 Still in the game.

[@veronicajones1943]

It's 2023 and I'm using a tinker's bench now.