Are Aussie men dating duds compared to other countries? | American Reacts

[@k.whiking4372]

I think some women's expectations in general are beyond the scope of the average working class Aussie male.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Exactly. They'd have more luck with a gay man

[@njsmkmmsthatsit3518]

As some one of a much earlier generation and as a women who studied, worked and traveled I never wanted to marry or even be shacked up with some one. I had made life plans that didn't allow for a husband or partner. Then through friends I met some one from Minneapolis, here in AU. We didn't date but went out as a group of friends, then when he went back we kept in touch by snail mail. Yes this was before the WWW.This was the guy that made me realise that with the right person I could possibly feel like letting them stick around for a while. ha ha It felt good being around this guy, but he had to go back and start paying off all his student debt, was way too religious and I didn't want to move from Australia. So while we wrote for ages and he did come back to Australia again I knew he was not for me... This guy was extremely different to Aussie men and I loved that but I thought it was because he was brought up in a much different culture, than most Aussie men. Not the case. 10 years later, again through friends, I met an Aussie guy just the same as the American was. It wasn't as easy as falling for the first guy. I still really didn't want to change my plans (life) I was loving the single life waaay too much. In all honesty he did the chasing, because I honestly didn't even think of it and honestly didn't know how. I'd never done it before. If my now husband didn't do all the chasing I think I'd still be single. So decades (not saying how many, ha ha) later with 2 kids he still treats me really well. I have lots of friends and grew up with 4 brothers who are married and I watch how their wives get treated, so I know I'm on a winner. Looks like we'll grow old together.

[@peterbrooks1781]

Gave up on it 10 years ago and I've never been happier without all that chaos and suffering in my life. Seems like alot of other guys are over it too.

[@TheRICKY85]

I've never been asked out and am too anxious to ask anyone out, let alone talk to someone. Six dates is not really much in regards to all of the single people in Australia.

[@outbackgearforu]

Your not missing much bloke

[@sjbict]

check out passport bros

[@noelleggett5368]

Dating is overrated - and stressful if you’re under 60. Most couples meet in group situations. When you’re out with friends, you’re more relaxed, and it’s possible to meet someone by chance.

[@TheRICKY85]

@@noelleggett5368 so, my problem is not going out and not having friends then.... 😅😢

[@noelleggett5368]

@@TheRICKY85 I don’t believe that for a second. I’ve never been one for crowded pubs and sweaty nightclubs. ‘Going out with friends’ could mean a vast range of social opportunities. When I lived in Sydney, I found a hobby and a small group of friends that I found very fulfilling. Now that I live in another state, I have had to put myself out there and find people again. It takes time. The secret is a hobby that you’re passionate about. Find a group of people who love it too, and you’re on your way. Even if your thing is dressing up in costume and watching original episodes of Star Trek, you’d be surprised who you’ll find. And the internet is a useful tool to find them. Don’t bother with dating. When you’re with friends or family (the ones you talk to), special people will find you.

[@keithdevine8281]

I don't care if women think we are dud dates .I've stopped dating because there are no ladies out there.Now I happy and content becausei go fishing instead These birds are buffheads I'm done.

[@tubester4567]

Right women dont understand the crap men go through. When a man goes on any dating site, he has to weed through all the sex workers, scammers and catfishes. Then theres the foreign girls like from Asia looking for a western sucker to get them a green card. Right now in Latin America (countries like Colombia) there is an epidemic of western men being drugged, robbed and murdered by women. The US government has an advisory warning for men to not use ANY dating apps. Its not easy to find a normal healthy woman that isnt on drugs or covered in tattoos and doesnt have a history of sex work. Most young women cant even cook these days.

[@gerardbryant1445]

Work shorts immediately after work, maybe. But board shorts belong on the beach. Also, first dates were usually at a club, which used to have some dress rules.

[@jdelark6428]

Jana Hocking, as entertaining as she can be in her columns, is a terrible relationship expert.

[@callofduty3807]

All women are. Just name me one good lady that is a great relationship expert?

[@pickle_jammies]

Grass is always greener? I've had plenty of friends who've moved overseas and had the exact same things to say about how aussie women are terrible. It could also just be an age/generational thing. All the different rules out there and lingo is just insane.

[@billschild3371]

As you say, the standard you are prepared to accept is the standard you will get. Some of my friends were the biggest slobs and yet seemed to attract the most amazing girls. I could never understand it until they broke up. If they got married to these guys, they became broken women some years later.

[@rogersampaio7450]

0:30 what's the exact number of American men and Aussie men you have dated before getting married ?...

[@MusiCatsKing]

I don't even bother approaching a lady to ask her out anymore. I've been rejected too many times (and not politely either). So women, you've got your gender equality now; so if you want me, YOU ask ME out - not the other way around!

[@lync8884]

I agree with you 100%, don’t accept a date that doesn’t fit your standards, whatever they are.

[@Skywimz]

How would you leave politely from a date ?

[@davidliddelow5704]

Probably the best people to ask about this would have been Australians who are in long term relationships. They are the standard men here are tying to emulate. One thing I will say is that Australians really really value egalitarianism, a lot. Traditional dating rules are pretty incompatible with this. Almost every girl i’ve ever dated here has had reservations about letting me pay for things.

[@larissahorne9991]

Speaking as an Aussie lady who lost track of how many Aussie guys have hit on, I've got something to say. Unlike some American guys, our men don't need to be loud in order to find themselves a lady, etc. We don't need pick-up lines. For instance, he'll check out a lady, and then she'll check him out. If she's interested, she'll go and talk to him. Or vice versa. I'm far from vain. My father was abusive, and he kept telling me I wasn't pretty or even nice. Mum and I left him when I was 13, moving from Brissie (Brisbane) to The Atherton Tablelands, Far North Queensland. But that left me with self-esteem and self-image issues. I was fortunate enough to find myself a wonderful father figure in my mum's sister's husband. He was one of the sweetest, kindest gentlemen you'd ever meet. Back to my story, boys started checking me out when I was 7, and I had my first boyfriend at 9. I just didn't understand what that look meant back then. I was held back a year, so six months after we moved, I started high school. I lost track of how many hormone crazy boys tried seducing me from that point on. That was in the 90s. I've continued to turn mens heads since then. So I'd say that I know what I'm talking about. Well, I was raised to be a lady who treats everyone well. A girl I went to high school with was a model who graduated with a modelling contract from the same agency as Naomi Campbell. She told me that I had a face for modelling. Plus, I've got long legs and olive skin that tans within minutes. I have a guy who's an old friend who could become something much more. He's Liked me since our early 20s, but it took a long time for me to feel the same way about him. Personally I'll never understand why people use dating apps, especially in Australia. If you're over here, my advice is to get out there and meet people. Unfortunately cat calling as you put it was labelled as sexual harassment in the 90s. Start taking notice of how Aussie men are looking at you instead Kaitlyn.

[@SarisChannel18]

When was the last time you checked the inside of your couch for dead cats?

[@dougstubbs9637]

9:00…onwards …I heard a plot for a modern romantic novel ! You have already got the character development underway ! Cheers.

[@stevegraham3817]

I don't see what the problem is. The bloke at the bar was looking for a girl who was easy going, liked a beer, and liked football, too bad she turned up expecting more. I bet he was a great bloke. lol But a serious question back to the girls, why do you expect men to do things they don't want to do, go places they don't want to go, and pretend to be someone they are not? Yeah, the ripped board shorts, and farting are the best thing that happened on those dates, because they showed themselves early and not after she had wasted 6 months and invested your heart into someone.

[@callofduty3807]

I just find it more amazing how they say they don't need us and yet complain that we don't put in the effort. Cause women are worth the effort? Sure. I'll put in the work for a potential STD and bag of exes. OK.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

In Australia we don't cat call because we have British sensibility and politeness. Something you Americans don't have.

[@jenf2857]

Looks aren't everything. You're a 10 Kaitlyn and don't ever think you're less than that.

[@djgrant8761]

42 and still happily single. Never been in a relationship, never been in love, never been on a date, never kissed a girl. I am so free living as a single man. I wouldn’t change it for the world.

[@GaryNoone-jz3mq]

You have my sympathy.

[@djgrant8761]

@@GaryNoone-jz3mq Sympathy? Why sympathy? I love being single. I love being left alone. I love living my best life with no distractions.

[@njsmkmmsthatsit3518]

It doesn't matter where you are from or what generation you are, you need to teach people how to treat you. If women accept bad treatment thats absolutely what they'll get.

[@traelmate37]

You're getting "facts" from morning television. Really??

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Lol she's a yank. Why are you surprised???

[@Outback_Recluse]

An unwritten rule, you get back what you put out.

[@MelodyMan69]

No mate. There are givers and there are takers. Men give, Women take. Until you learn that you will have failure and not understand why.

[@Outback_Recluse]

Aaah mate, life is too short to be so sceptical. I've been married for 20+years. If that's all you've gotten from your past relationships, look at what I said, you'll get back what you put out. Like attracts like. People who want fast quick relationships will find short term flings. Genuine people attract genuine people for the long haul, cheaters attract cheaters, religious people attract religious people etc. If you aren't finding what you're seeking then look in yourself at what you're projecting to others.

[@MelodyMan69]

@@Outback_Recluse Married. 2 Adult Children. 4 Grandsons. 70 year old. I stick to what I said.

[@Outback_Recluse]

@@MelodyMan69 haha 😂 , only one grandchild and in my 50's. Have to defer to the wisdom of age my friend. I'll add this comment though, my wife usually has a better idea of what's in my wallet then I do 🤔😂

[@MelodyMan69]

@@Outback_Recluse Yeh. Your wife gives you an allowance from your wages and also knows what you bought with it. Thats normal. STORY: I got a Store Charge Card and added to my wifes Birthday Gift when we were in our 20s. Top Class Department Store that has high quality products. After 6-8 weeks, the Accounts came in. She CANCELLED that Charge Card but never told me. I took many months for me to stop smiling every time I thought about it.

[@arokh72]

Glad I'm long out of the dating scene. Sounds like a nightmare.

[@sineadcusack9744]

Cracking on to someone is to flirting with someone

[@bridgetgardner1207]

I love your perspective, it's so refreshing. You've made me think that maybe both sexes suffer from low expectations in Australia. I think it's the dark side to our laid back attitude. And yes, this extends to the bed. But I also think there has been a bit of push back from thd guys to 'girl power' trying to raise expectations and that has led to a somewhat selfish f* em attitude from the blokes. BTW, in my 50s and long passed the dating stage. When I was in my 20s, cat calling was common and I just accepted whatever guys dished up on a date, which wasn't much! (They did brush their teeth though 😅)

[@shonaguthrie848]

I’ve given up on men. I’ve been single 98% of my adult life, and I like it that way. The times I’ve been with men have been disappointing to say the least.

[@thrusta100]

You have it easy! Try being a man, we have to all the work, while y’all live on recruit difficulty..

[@shooterdownunder]

Believe me there are many men who are done with dating altogether and I can sympathise. Dating right now is so toxic and exhausting for both sexes.

[@alexloukum7673]

4:10 because they are on the date for the free food opportunity

[@alexloukum7673]

As the new term say FOODICALL

[@noelleggett5368]

I know a very funny - very dark - and very blue joke about the stereotypical laziness of Aussie men when it comes to sex and dating.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

The curtain joke?

[@noelleggett5368]

@@littlecatfeet9064 No. Way too offensive for KZbin about a victim of a particularly heinous crime being interviewed by police. The punchline is “I had to do all the work!”

[@noelleggett5368]

@@littlecatfeet9064 No. Way too offensive for KZbin… about a victim of a particularly heinous crime being interviewed by police. The punchline is “I had to do all the work!”

[@SauronsEye]

Wolf whistling/cat calling in Australia is very much considered low class. I consider it to almost be on a level with someone yelling out, "I want to, "F", you". Very crass.

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

It isn't any easier in your 60's

[@theray1319]

or 50's

[@veggieaussiechick]

I’ve never really had any bad dating experiences as such most were quite normal but some of the guys and their clothes oh my god, try and dress up a bit more men!! It’s not hard to put a nice pair of pants or jeans on.

[@MusiCatsKing]

No, do not use cologne. It triggers asthma attacks. We never needed deodorant 50 years ago, why should we now... There have been occasions where i've coughed and recoiled, "Pwoar.. What is that horrible smell?" "It's just aftershave." Yuck, do not wear aftershave around me either. It's almost like you're trying to trigger asthmatics! 'Classy' women will never admit this, but a bit of sweat can actually turn them on. It's the biology of pheromones. On a date, trying to cover up the smell of pheromones defeats the whole purpose. This blonde lady is whacky if she thinks that's even remotely a good idea.

[@GreenMindxD]

I dont put much effort into a first date off the dating apps. Go for a short walk somewhere or grab cofee just for a couple hours to see who this person is. If you like them then I will try court them and put in effort from the second date onwards. I dont entertain women who give of that "impress me" vibe, meet me in the middle or bugger off is how I operate

[@michaelbutler1557]

Coffee has two fs.

[@Moby79]

Aussie blokes learn bravado but practice patience. Confidence is in the eye of the beholder.

[@kmack8634]

Measure up dont complain. If you are playing means you arent aimed at steadfast long term. Reap what you sow.

[@adamkember]

Though it may seem like it, this is not said with aggression. 12:29 - Is it too much to ask? Yes. We live in a hot, humid, and expensive country. Ladies, if your date turns up in ripped boardies and thongs, and suggests going to an RSL or a pub for a date, you've just been fast tracked to partner status without all the expense and time wasting that comes with it. If this date has any prospects of becoming a long term partner, then it is best to see him, as he is, in his natural environment, and not as an ideal. Many women become disapointed when their partners don't consistently live up to their expectations after The Honeymoon Period. It's much more impressive to know that your partner can be at their best when the time comes.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Nah. When I dated years ago I made an effort. Going to a date making no effort just tells people that there will never an occasion where you’ll scrub up or make any extra effort.

[@johnpage7735]

No valentines cards again. Those anonymous fathers day cards won't stop coming though.

[@acewickhamyoshi8330]

Thanks daddie

[@johnpage7735]

@@acewickhamyoshi8330 Hehehe

[@zackattack9685]

As an American gentleman, do you think Australian women would date an American guy? Do you think Australian women like American men?

[@davidcruse6589]

Maybe the ladies should look within Couldn't get guys in their countries Left to another country and still cant get or keep a guy Seems to me theirs a common denominator here Fun the American area their talking about are rich business men What thought was getting rich Aussie footy player But Aussie guys not playing the game like the guys in their countries Funny how their travelling the world looking for guys and cant find any Again look within ladies you appear to have nothing substantial to offer Who says what their saying even true as haven't herd otherside storie Im guessing they might be the duds as in two countries and cant find one man 🤔 Now moving onto third country do i here 4 maybe 5 countries ect 😮

[@Skywimz]

Don't blame men for not being nice and being scumbags at your dates. They probably got rejected by some women for being too nice, or for being just nice. So you have to see things objectively, the world doesn't revolve around you

[@blueshoes5145]

So just cause he got rejected by a girl for being too nice he turned into an asshole ? lol I’ve been called ‘too’ nice multiple times. And I haven’t changed. There are women that like nice guys. In fact, they are usually the marriage material.

[@KeithDevine-k9q]

I don't have anymore to do with Australian women,i just go fishing.

[@Richard-gy1pq]

The laws here have blokes terrified.

[@bodhi9464]

Oh my goodness ~ that place is so cluttered !

[@Anth1963]

When it comes to looks, beauty's only skin deep, but ugliness cuts to the bone!

[@CyberiusT]

"Lift your game" "Get F-D!" Sorry, but if you're swayed more by his wardrobe, coifure, jewllery, and/or choice of cologne, than by the quality of conversation and depth of character, then I at least would rather not know you anyway. Ok, turning up in ripped 10-year-old meme t-shirt, boardies and thongs, and reeking of BO - that's going to give anyone a bad impression of you unless you're meeting at the beahj, and you've just been competeing in some sort of sport.

[@davidcruse6589]

🤔 Aussie guys just want someone honest Appears the girls need to liftbtheir game If they cant keep a guys attention They're money chaser why she stayed after cat fished Still used him for his money though So chasing normal guy a footballers No guys sick of being treated like 💩 So they dont bother

[@Richard-gy1pq]

We not dating thes duds.😂😂😂

[@scottlang7271]

I'm very glad to not be in the dating game. I wonder if part of the issue is that Western cultures broadly are very focused upon ourselves, and self-improvement. Maybe one question for everyone to ask is "What sort of signals do I send about whether I am capable of caring for other people?" As such, I'm not sure if the dating apps are helping, because in them we are all trying to present our most polished selves to the world - rather than our true selves, both good and bad. In terms of meeting people, I wonder if volunteering could be useful. For a start, it does show that you're able to think beyond your own immediate needs, and about service to others, or at least, to a cause. If you get involved in such a thing, you can see whether someone else contributes ideas, how they deal with other people, if they are honest, organised and reliable, if they show leadership, if they care for other people, if they look for win-win solutions, if they go the extra mile when things get tough, and if they are good with kids, or with people from other backgrounds. It would also often show if their actions match their words. Why do these things matter? Because all of these attributes are really useful when you are partnered. When one of you is sick, or has had a bad day, you want to know that the other person will be gentle, kind and caring. You will want them to bite their tongues when putting up with your obnoxious cousin at the birthday party. You want them to be able to fight/argue fairly, and to either compromise, or at least agree to disagree. You want them to have their own lives, goals and to become a better person over time. You want them to be proactive in getting stuff done when you're away or busy, rather than dithering or just ignoring stuff in the hope that it will go away. You want them to show an interest in your hobbies and your friends because it's of interest to you, and because they have an interest in trying to understand you better, they do. All of this works in reverse as well - if you want all of these things in a partner, then you need to be doing your best to offer them as well. Ladies, that means you think long and hard about the men you know, and not just write a man off because he's not yet a top earner. If he's the one who offers to be the designated driver, or quietly cleans up after the end of season party without being asked, or helps his elderly neighbours out with tasks they can no longer do, that speak to character. Blokes, from our side, that means you help your sister's friends to move house when asked. It means you learn to cook stuff that doesn't come out of a can. It means that you turn up for dates when you say you will, and you make an effort to dress up, because the ladies do. If it's not working, then be polite, and gentle about it. It means you think about what would be important to the lady you want in your life, and work towards how you can support her in that. It means broadening your horizons and trying new things, so that you have something intelligent to talk about beyond your mates from high school, or your footy trip to wherever. It means becoming a truly adult man who is someone any girl would be proud to call a friend - or more.

[@stuarthancock571]

Location, location location. In other words in a place where you can communicate! No noisy bars or clubs, no loud live music.

[@ccpljager424]

gave up on dating years ago

[@ajcajc5429]

No I stopped asking women out a along time ago, they act to much like men

[@FionaEm]

'Cracking on' is coming onto someone, not catcalling 🙂

[@davidcruse6589]

🤔 could be a thing called feminism The real problem Yet i want to be treated special Also you can pay and do as i want

[@craigmitchell3477]

first red flag i've got a list

[@richardb8492]

Cat calling or wolf whistling in Australia under the sex discrimination act it is illegal.

[@Teagirl009]

It's definitely reduced in recent years. But when I was growing up and in teens/early 20s it happened regularly.

[@ImperialKnight86]

What was it like? Did girls find it offensive or did it depend?

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@ImperialKnight86It could be annoying if done too much. I’m now old and never get catcalled and it’s a bit of a relief, but I didn’t know any young women who were offended by it. Well, one, but now she’s offended by not being noticed so she’s not a great example of an easygoing person 😂

[@justinhollis5579]

Jana Hocking with her only trick to stay relevant in media on display, Blame men for some problem she's got.

[@shooterdownunder]

I can’t stand watching the today show or any of the morning shows 😣. It’s largely aimed at the female audience and it’s incredibly biased. There’s also a huge lack of personal responsibility on the women’s side who are complaining because they have very poor standards or a bad judge of character as I’ve seen many women who would turn down good men and then go on to date men who were complete losers and then break up with them and then complain about how toxic the men they dated are all the while ghosting over guys who would have treated them like queens because they found them boring.

[@michaelbutler1557]

Maybe the blonde was just a boring date.

[@jeromeshaw2248]

Try being a man in his late 40s with respect for women. I get told I’m not man enough