Are Autonomous Cars Closer Than You Think?

[@ctownskier]

That unprotected left was impressive. In those situations I usually get stressed, give up waiting, make a right, then turn around where I can.

[@EngineeringExplained]

I do the same, I hate creating a scene haha!

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

The car sneaking up on the right is pretty standard when you are trying to get out of the way of traffic on the lanes you have to cross. Nothing really that stressful about the situation, just don't get impatient and try to force things. It's all a question of reacting to the situation and act decent.

[@mjc0961]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 Sneaking up on the right isn't decent though. It's a dick move.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@mjc0961 Thing is you don't do it to get the jump on the first car, you do it so you don't block two lanes of traffic. That's what I talk about when saying you have to act decent.

[@kirkpuppy]

That was the opposite of impressive, it was dangerous. When the self driving car pulled out to try and make it's left turn, it was blocking oncoming traffic. If the oncoming cars were not paying attention, this could have caused an accident. Making a right, and then making a U turn when safe, would have been the correct decision.

[@Bill_Woo]

I'm very impressed that the footage here includes so much sketchy situations - people crossing between vehicles, even while some are moving; cars parked with a bit hanging into the active lane; bus merging but imperfectly staying in lane. I'm not sure if this astounding dream will succeed. But that it is giving so much attention to _extremely_ gray situations and sketchy realities is MASSIVELY encouraging. (Including speeding and crossing the double yellow when suitable. That's very intelligent, and crucial.)

[@EngineeringExplained]

Yes, intentionally tried to show the more interesting/edge case scenarios that seem likely to trip up AVs, and show how the car reacts. You can see my genuine shock after the scene at 9:55, because I saw the bus coming in and was certain it would cause trouble, only for the AV to switch lanes and breeze past. I know a lot of folks see this and think it's super simple, but it's quite complex how much math is involved behind the scenes, and experiencing that all in real time is wild.

[@Bill_Woo]

@@EngineeringExplained Well said, and thank you for the effort to go more "edgy". And yes, your genuine [realtime] reactions were clear!

[@doggonemess1]

That scenario at 16:16 blew me away. I never even thought about all those factors at the same time. I tend to avoid left turns like that, so the AV wins that one.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

This isn't an astounding dream. It would be an amazing technological achievement, but I would never choose to own or use a self driving car myself

[@AntonAdelson]

As someone who lived in Jerusalem for few years, I know perfectly well how crazy the traffic over there is! What you see in the video is 24/7! I HATED driving there! The fact that Mobileye can comfortably get around peak traffic Jerusalem is insane!! Looking at the footage, I'm simultaneously proud and ashamed of my compatriots right now!

[@gusmartin6053]

I can see the news headlines already, “autonomous vehicles programmed to break the law”. Leaving out the part about how we all do this routinely in order to safely drive without getting hung up on silly technicalities. Great video! I can’t wait to see this tech become a part of our everyday life.

[@Jako1987]

"there could be razor blades in halloween candy"

[@Muskar2]

"Autonomous vehicles causes preventable fatal crash" - it'll inevitably happen at least once with the amount of fatalities we already have today with *human* drivers. And it'll be interesting to see how big the pushback will be when those headlines start coming.

[@netgnostic1627]

Absolutely - if you keep your eyes open it's easy to spot a cop car just driving along with somewhere to go, in a big bunch of traffic that is moving along at 10 to 12 km/h higher than the speed limit. The cop who's driving doesn't care because his assigned work for the day is to investigate a crime, not to pull over speeders and ticket them. So he's just matching their speed, and you can bet that he also does that when off duty in his personal vehicle.

[@altair1405]

we already had those headlines because teslas rolled with like 2mph through stopsigns like everyone else in california

[@Iangamebr]

This already happened with Tesla FSD

[@gschweiger]

Now just imagine if car to car communication was implemented in a standardized method.

[@handlealreadytaken]

I've always felt that solving this with an inside-out approach was a difficult way to do it. Only way right now since cars can't talk to each other, but if they could communicate together and know what the other vehicles are wanting to do would make for a better orchestrated experience.

[@MrPaxio]

there is, its called an iphone and air dropping obscene material to anyone you pass. doubt you'll want the asshole you just cut off to call your car phone to give you their piece of mind

[@EngineeringExplained]

Yeah, we're definitely on "hard mode" at the moment without any standard form of communication between vehicles.

[@gudenau]

That's a horrifying idea.

[@paulogazolla7488]

That will ONLY happen when it becomes some kind of law, or government demand to happen at some point. Will raise production cost, but, could come with lower insurance and taxes. Since fewer accidents would happen. Less fuel/energy costs cus ppl would not drive like crazy.

[@James-cheese]

Nice video! 'Brute Force' calculation is likely to cause excessive CPU heat - ideal for the winter months 👍

[@Southghost5997]

😂 good one!

[@GreatRaphael]

Thank you for the video. I have been a huge fan of Mobileye for a long time now and I love to see the technology evolving.

[@kornydad14]

I would love to see how this tech does in a winter climate. I am in Minnesota and I have yet to see any company, Google, Waymo, Tesla, etc. showcase their systems in harsh weather. I assume this is because it almost completely breaks down. Great video!

[@ecospider5]

Yes I used FSD last week on a 1 hour drive. I only had to take over once because it was be slow to decide what lane to be in. The other 59 minutes and 55 seconds it did it all on its own. On the way home it was raining hard and hailing. FSD would turn into autopilot (only lane keeping, no turns) 90% of the time. And it was hard to even get it to turn on at all. So once FSD works at level 4 in good weather they will be spending a lot of time figuring out how it will work in terrible weather.

[@jacquesc3166]

@@ecospider5 FSD has absolutely zero response/algo for blizzards. Mount non-Winter tires on those rims and its incapacity gets even worse. The number of variables associated with ice & deep snow driving far exceeds "normal FSD"... which might never get there. Minnesota is nothing, come North of the 48th and we'll talk lol.

[@fedyx1544]

@@ecospider5 Tesla's FSD has been forever gutted by musk's shortsightedness, as right now, and for the foreseeable future, there is simply no way to get a reliable self driving experience without lidar and radar. They were taken away to cut costs but their absence ended up being basically the reason why every tesla sold until now will never achieve full self driving.

[@frozenrobert5735]

I just sold my 2022 Tesla Model 3 for this main reason: in Canada, with harsh weather, the FSD was useless. Even adaptive cruise would get confused by bad weather, obscured road markings from mud / snow etc. -- they should have kept the lidar and optimized the software for climates outside SoCal.

[@andrasbiro3007]

@@fedyx1544 So you are saying that humans are unable to drive? You may not have noticed, but humans don't have lidar, radar, or even ultrasonic sensors.

[@jason454ss]

What I got from the video. Those roads looked amazing in Michigan we could never imagine roads looking that good.

[@AntonAdelson]

It's Jerusalem, capital of Israel. I'd compare it to Washington D.C. roads...

[@TheDrInkduff]

This was surprisingly impressive. That complicated scenario towards the end of the video where the car merged through the left turn especially! I would have thought an autonomous vehicle would just get stuck in a situation like that until there were no more cars coming from the right but it honestly handled the situation at least as well as I would have.

[@IAM-re3xm]

Yes, that was done as flawless as any human will with the exception of time (Most humans would have gone in a lot quicker). Most of us would probably mess it up and tell the pedestrians to shove it!

[@travishicks9607]

As usual, outstanding research and presentation.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Thanks Travis! It's an interesting and evolving segment, so it was fascinating to get some first hand experience with it!

[@philv3941]

I'm a passionate about the subject, seen and read so much publications about, but it's the most exhaustive and accurate and interesting summarization i've ever seen of this field's state of the art. It's will become my favorite link to share. Too bad you can't dub it in french

[@מדינט]

Jason, you were here and you didn't came to say hi? 🙂 hope you had a nice visit in my country.

[@mikesvirtualgarage9917]

I'm curious what happens when a human driver attempts a close merge on the highway (or any other street). Will the autonomous car be "soft" and just let anyone in? If thats the case then humans can be a bit more aggressive, knowing they will always get to merge whenever they want. Cool video!

[@volvo09]

That's what i'd think would happen. Imagine if all of NYC's taxis were autonomous. I could see citizens learning that they can bully the cabs and win position. But at the same time there is still a fellow human being in that cab, so enough people would still be kind enough to let it go.

[@EngineeringExplained]

In my few hours of driving (riding), it was more aggressive than I expected it to be. It chooses and action and makes an assumption you will react to that action (much like we do).

[@debestcanadian]

Agreed on this point. The ability for human drivers to "bully" autonomous vehicles has always caused my greatest skepticism for the technology, as you have to assume that the tech will always yield in the face of a human who knows it will back down if a collision is imminent.

[@Die_Kvar]

Israeli drivers are often pretty aggressive. If the car can manage to drive well in Israeli traffic, it means it handles those situations better than expected. :)

[@qo2rj]

I'd like to see these cars drive in Manhattan :-D -Being confident and assertive is CRITICAL there....

[@BloodyMobile]

11:42 this is a really impressive moment. For most people who make their license, the gesture of the bus driver is obvious. But it's not an traffic rule per-se (as far as I know) that flashing the headlights means "go on, I'll wait for you". And the crossing of the crosswalk next to the ambulance was also very interesting. My instructor back then would've slammed the break in that case, because the pedestrians have the right of way there. But that's why it's so impressive to me, because the car apparently understood the context of the situation very well: it's trying go through the curve AND that the pedestrians on the left slowed down, telling it that they'll just go after it.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

It's fascinating watching the traffic and the monitor to see how it sees everything. At 11:00 when the scooter comes wizzing by just after the pedestrians has passed the vehicle, the car notices it and shows it on the display.

[@ecospider5]

I watch for that in the Tesla a lot. When turning left I’m glancing back and fourth between the road and the screen with my foot over the break. If I see a car that could be in our way and the FSD doesn’t show that car as blue (FSD visual changes the cars on the screen from black to blue when it’s waiting for that car) I apply the breaks disengaging FSD. That is happening less and less each month.

[@RunTheTape]

In my city that "tricky scenario" you presented is basically almost at every junction.

[@ChrisLarsson85]

I had no idea that the technique really were this developed! This is crazy impressive! 😯🇸🇪

[@426hemicuda1090]

As a car enthusiast I personally would not want a self driving car.... driving my cars is a great getaway and relief of stress

[@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx]

I wont it to drive for me so I can be on my phone :)

[@AntonAdelson]

Guys, as someone who lived in Jerusalem for few years, you need to understand how crazy the traffic over there is! It's horrible kind of chaos! I HATED driving there! The fact that Mobileye can comfortably get around peak traffic Jerusalem is insane!! F****, just look at the footage! I'm simultaneously proud and ashamed of my compatriots right now!

[@lylestavast7652]

good video guy - be interesting to see one video with Mobile-eye, fsd, waymo and openpilot examined and compared. I'm sure they all have strengths and weaknesses.

[@feedbackzaloop]

Here's a catch: currently just using an automous vehicle in its full capacity is already breaking the rules in most places. Nitpicking aside, all autopilots - or at least those I'm aware of - brake one or other rule quite often, usually regarding rolling stop or lane control. But that's more about how redundant most of current traffic regulations are.

[@AntonAdelson]

Exactly. Current regulations are made by humans for humans. AI is already much better at both making and following legislation!

[@xungnham1388]

To all the self driving car avocates, I'd suggest looking up the videos of Vietnamese traffic intersections. In those videos, realize that all participants (drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, etc) are able to negotiate traffic order on 8 lane intersections without any traffic control devices. Humans are able to do this through just hints from subtle hand gestures, gait/pace, horns, lane positioning, spacing, and angle. Even in countries with more rigid traffic control policies, a human driver clues into these subtle hints. You can tell when a car is about to cut you off based on their lane positioning and angle. We mentally note which cars may be driven by distracted or new drivers and are more cautious around them based on following distance, response time to traffic lights, etc. I've pulled up to do a right turn and had a car in the lane left of me pull up to block my view of oncoming traffic. In those situations, some times I can look through their passenger window and windshield to see oncoming traffic. Show me a lidar or video detection system doing that. It is really easy to mislead how well a self-driving system works with statistics. A million accident free miles is worthless if only driven on sunny days and easy roads and the system bails out to a safety driver when it doesn't know what to do. Until a system takes in ALL of the inputs we as drivers do, how can a self-driving system match or exceed human drivers? No system in development takes into account horns or highbeams or hand gestures from other drivers.

[@janissaryone1906]

The need for pre-mapping of roads will hinder the MobileEye system substantially. It shouldn't require it to drive well on a new street as there are hundreds of miles of new roads built every year. I still don't see actual public roll out of MobileEye's self driving car system anytime soon. I'd like to see a comparison of the various self driving cars do a cannonball run kind of drive and see how they'll do.

[@RadioChief52]

So many questions I had about self driving cars, you answered in less than 20 minutes. Great presentation!

[@glyndonwakeman7420]

Someone may have already added this. But in Australia the road rules have been changed to 'a meter matters' when overtaking cyclists. Below 60km/h a metre must be allowed, over 60 then it becomes 1.5m. Motorists are allowed to cross centrelines to keep this distance and only overtake when safe to do so. Let's just say it's taking a long time to get this to become the norm...

[@ForTheLoveOfCarss]

Glad to hear you were in israel😃 hope you enjoyed to see all of the boxer engines (crosstreks/xv's) and model 3's on the road. As always, great vid.

[@kakashi_senpai042]

I'm an engineer myself and I love engineering! It has given me so many wonderful opportunities and skills, like coding! What I love most about engineering is its application to so many of life's scenarios. From solving complex problems to creating new ones, engineering helps us to move forward and find the answers. It's so inspiring to see how much progress and innovation is made possible by engineers each day. It's amazing that with the right kind of engineering, we can create entirely new things and do things faster and more efficiently than ever before! Engineering really has given us some incredible benefits.

[@TabascoSour]

This is insane. I can’t believe how advanced this stuff has become in recent years.

[@Weaseltube]

This is quite satisfying as it seems to validate what I deem to be the 4 'real' rules of the road, which are, in order; 1- Safety 2- Right of way 3- Whatever suits me best 4- All the other rules of the road That last claim is pretty hard to accept for highly litigious and moralizing North Americans, but this video clearly demonstrates with examples just how true it is. Thanks for another great vid EE. And Mobileye, wow! I am impressed. Finally an AV company that seems to get how driving really works, and knows how to implement it programmatically.

[@tHebUm18]

As someone who has been watching Tesla FSD progress for 2 years now, interesting seeing a competitor in action--and seeing it sometimes having the same struggles in same situations where it does a lot of stopping to think about things when it should be going.

[@djr11472]

Yeah, going in the opposing lane when the bus was waiting was impressive, but way too slow, you could tell the bus driver was getting frustrated with it and had to flash their lights again.

[@raymondanderson1026]

Jason - did you ever imagine your channel would take you to Israel to see the best in robocars? Great video. Fascinating stuff. Can’t believe how far this tech has come.

[@MalcolmV8]

This was an eye opener as to how far autonomous technology has come. Thanks for putting this video together.

[@WorasLT]

That was some impressive improvisation in that trafic jam in the end.

[@bazoo513]

Impressive. I guess that dependency on REM is what makes this Level 4 rather than Level 5 system. But that's probably all we can reasonably hope for at the present level of technology.

[@QueensGTO_Viper]

Can't wait til I'm the enemy for not having an autonomous driving car

[@deviljelly3]

Understandable position....

[@ignacioalvmar]

This was a great video Jason, you explained simply very complicated topics and nailed down the big challenges that we are facing with regulation and homologation across the world.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@amarmangaonkar7682]

I drive in India on same road for 4 years. And I still have to think hard and drive, because it's India.

[@michaelblacktree]

LOL

[@PrograError]

let's face it, on some places on the world, the roads are a fearful place to be at.

[@LordSaliss]

Wow. Mobileye looks far more advanced than the Nvidia presentations I've seen. And the lidars are much sleeker too

[@heartofdawn2341]

My biggest concern is a major catastrophic event. I live on the Ring of Fire in New Zealand, so this is something that has actually happened. A massive earthquake hit. Many roads were impassible or nearly so. Fallen debris, flooding and liquefaction, fractures and sink holes, downed power lines, etc. Also many roads moved several meters up, down and/or sideways, making GPS useless. Some times the only way through was on the footpath, areas that are normally closed to traffic, or even through someone's garden. I just don't see how the system can handle this

[@waynerussell6401]

Tesla can work without maps, automatically determining 'occupied space'.

[@pagani8]

Excellent breakdown, fascinating! As good as the technology you showed is, it only further reminds me what an incredibly complex and challenging self driving cars are. (At least, given that they have to coincide with human drivers)

[@Lascarnn]

Wow, those reactions re: bus flashing lights, or detecting pedestrian intention is amazing

[@BlueDually4x4]

My biggest problem with really advanced technology is that out in the real world it usually doesn't last long. We have trucks with radar for collision avoidance, one has never functioned correctly and the other has seen "ghosts" in winter weather. I have recently seen a video of a test involving a self-driving semi and how it reacted to a steer tire blow out. It didn't crash, but it also did not get out of the lane of travel just coming to a stop in the lane it was in; they can only do what they are programmed to, and no one can think of everything. Now these cars probably have higher end equipment and a significantly more advanced AI than the truck. Seeing the car in operation was really amazing. Also, your explanation of everything was as always easy to understand.

[@ddpwe5269]

The level that AI works at is just next level, when compared to other AI's. It looks so smooth, it takes those 'risks' for efficiency just like humans, which makes it an even more smoother ride! It's truly amazing the amount of data they need, just to get to this level though. I can only imagine how much they already have and still need to collect/update.

[@ecospider5]

The updating is what’s going to be the problem. If you could magically get perfect maps downloaded, 5 seconds later the maps would be out of date. A manhole cover being open, a guard rail being bent so bad it sticks into the street, 10 cans of paint falling off a truck. If it can deal with these changes what was the point of having detailed maps down to 10cm in the first place.

[@surewhynot6259]

@@ecospider5 redundancy

[@djnaadowanyakumulator3526]

@@ecospider5 this is exactly why Tesla doesn't use any map data - it's just not reliable

[@Arpedk]

Do you have access to Teslas FSD Beta, Jason? A comparison would be cool.

[@Lianpe98]

Wow! It works really well, this makes it feel like it'll be ready to hit the market way sooner than I expected.

[@ProXcaliber]

I wouldn't doubt seeing this being a standard feature in even lower cost cars in the next 10 years. Or at least a lot of the safety aspects of this, especially if it can prevent accidents a lot better than humans.

[@garyandtricia1]

I am both terrified and excited about this. While I will probably never own one, I appreciate the technology. But can you imagine the cost to repair in an accident?

[@sharifsircar]

I was more imagining all the people on the road that only fix their cars when it doesn't go from a to b anymore, I can only see it ending badly lol

[@garyandtricia1]

@@sharifsircar good point, I assume it would work like an SRS airbag system, if one part isn't right, none eof it works.

[@ChristopherGuilday]

@@garyandtricia1 it’s not that complex. It has sensors and a computer system. If a sensor fails you just replace it.

[@MrSolvalou]

Someone steals a camera or a sensor = car is totaled

[@garyandtricia1]

@@ChristopherGuilday I was among other things, a technician that serviced SRS systems on cars, the "complexity" isn't the issue. The cost to replace parts, the cost of parts and the calibration and certification of the system is where the issue will be. The cameras are calibrated independantly, must be aimed properly. Now comes the cost of having the equpment and training to do those repairs.

[@hfislwpa]

Very interesting insight into what the company is doing, thanks for sharing!

[@TheJagjr4450]

If it could detect whether a pedestrian is looking at the approaching vehicle through determining eye contact or what have you would be another great way at figuring intention.

[@fabixn]

What specifically is this system doing about the Nissan Altima drivers?

[@admranger]

Thanks for the fantastic tutorial. This was very insightful. Well done to you and well done Mobileye.

[@lincolndewitt1441]

Great information that is well presented (as usual on EE). One minor quibble (especially since you mentioned it several times): In many US states it is legal to cross a double yellow to pass cyclists.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Great info! But unfortunately if it's not universal, it goes back to my point about these vehicles behaving wildly different depending on where you're driving. Imaging going into another state, and being forced to sit behind a cyclist because of local law, knowing that in the state you were just driving in, it was perfectly legal. Matters a lot for perception of the technology, and makes it a lot more enjoyable when it's able to pass.

[@tmango78]

Looks promising

[@gabib1992]

Also to @engineeringexplained 's point, just because it's illegal it won't always stop people from doing it. And these AV's clearly have the ability to do that as well.

[@ze_ep]

I think most states allow crossing if there is an "obstruction" which is left up to the driver's interpretation.

[@tHebUm18]

As a cyclist and occasional runner on roads without sidewalks, many human drivers are also very bad about giving you any space even with a lane completely empty of oncoming traffic. Suburb drivers will happily risk the lives of vulnerable road users over driving over painted lines for the safety of others.

[@mitoand9]

They cracked it. It's impressive and it's amazing. This is the future of city driving.

[@churblefurbles]

Tesla does it with normal cameras, so not really.

[@mitoand9]

@@churblefurbles Regardless of the sensor blending OEMs use, the level they managed to reach is unbelievable. The decision making process looks extremely natural to the human eye.

[@mtnentertainment3454]

My hangup on self driving cars is the cloud connection. I will only ever trust it when it becomes self-hosted and localized within the car itself. I also want the ability to step in at any time and have the self driving aspect shut down immediately. I would love at some point in the future to have massive RV that I can program an onboard nav computer to drive while I do things in the back like cook or nap, only being alerted to take over when needed with plenty of time to do so. Maybe it only works on highways, that would be fine, but it's the only type I will trust. A huge part is I want the ability to completely isolate the computing system from the internet or any other type of non physical connection to prevent cyber attacks on the vehicle.

[@waynerussell6401]

The driving algorims are all contained in the car. Takeover is always possible.

[@mtnentertainment3454]

@@waynerussell6401 takeover is possible until a bad actor with a whim to take control, does. I want the ability to have it completely isolated from all wireless communication by default, with no chance to be taken over by anyone who isn't behind the wheel. I don't think people understand how ridiculously easy it is to hack into these cars, or for someone at the car company to sabotage the algorithms and push them out via OTA updates. It's scarily easy, made all the easier because the companies involved have a bad habit of ignoring (at best) or prosecuting (at worst) anyone who manages to expose the vulnerabilities in their software and hardware.

[@ProXcaliber]

@@mtnentertainment3454 I'd like to mention how there are already systems on the road that do exactly what you are describing, only usually connecting to a server when needed to send errors.

[@RichM3000]

Good video, but it was more marketing than an engineering analysis. I hope you'll do a follow-up with accident rates, rates of other failures, weather limitations (beyond saying it's good in the fog), etc. That being said, the demo was impressive. It looks like real progress is being made.

[@ProXcaliber]

I think it was more informational than marketing personally. And to my knowledge, these systems on average (even the “bad” ones) are still far safer than even some of the best human drivers. But, we still have to take into account that they also haven't been on the road as long as humans have been driving and also not as many vehicles with this capability. I'd wager however that they are still far safer than the average driver. As for the weather issue, I think he was correct in saying it's easier to start from normal good driving conditions and then work their way up to more difficult areas where the weather is another obstacle to overcome. But, let's also be real and acknowledge that a lot of human drivers also perform poorly in inclement weather.

[@9madness9]

How much different the drive would be if 50-70% of all cars around you were self driving then the communication between each car would aid total of all the cars about you and faster total travel speed can be achieved.

[@ProXcaliber]

The day that comes will be amazing, even if it's a human driver because it has the potential to eliminate traffic entirely and make driving MUCH more efficient and faster.

[@francescogiacomelli403]

WHAT. A . TOPIC! Best title ever imo

[@bvoyelr]

Yeah, let's just program the AI to avoid such high traffic unprotected left turns like the plague. I used google maps one time about a decade ago to go to a local business. There was one of those major perpendicular intersections with exit ramps for all of the right turns and lights for the left turn, but there was also a network of side roads. Well, I needed to make a left from the bottom major road onto the left major road. Instead of using the major intersection, google maps had me turn onto one of those side roads and then make an unprotected left turn onto the major artery. I nearly got t-boned and now I make sure to ignore Google when it tells me to take a side road.

[@alessandropinto5204]

@11:05 that guy coming from behind in his scooter illustrates one of the most dangerous situations, when a car stops to yield to a pedestrian and others fail to do the same, likely hitting the pedestrian in the process. Not a problem for the autonomous vehicle but something I witness more and more often when out in the traffic.

[@vl3005]

Oh we hate them here in Israel. They're assholes and they've been hit SOO many times already, but still some of them keep pushing the limits and testing their luck. They're a F'ing menace. They've also hit many pedestrians on sidewalks etc...

[@BhavinTolia]

Brilliant. While plain jane ICE cars are reliable and enjoyable in their own way but IMO increasing use of Tech is good because reading multiple signs along the road can get hard, and with increasing urbanisation and higher preference to creating better walkways along roads across cities, authorities keep narrowing roads and putting up new restrictions & compulsions upon road traffic. Looks like self driving is not the distant dream we mistook it to be!

[@PrograError]

for certain countries if this could be made common and cheaply it would be a god send, that's if it's coupled with relevant vehicular and transport policies. Ideally it would be something like the car-lite policy of Singapore, but with the robo taxis plying more of the streets more often than normal vehicles and on a similar price range.

[@MrPaxio]

why is thinking and challenging yourself with "hard" such a bad thing? you sharpen your own brain. if the AI did the driving for you, in 10 years your driving and attention skills r gonna be NPC levels. majority of accidents happen from someone not following what the AI expects from the other hundred times it went smoothly. and because everyone else is speeding the AI learns it can speed too. is that how we want a robot to follow road rules but not a person whos conscious of their actions? you can't send AI to jail when it causes manslaughter, and it wont matter what the cyclist did even if what they did broke rules. you hit them, you killed them, charges are coming

[@ProXcaliber]

@@MrPaxio Because not everyone is able to drive, but still need to be able to go places. An excellent use case for this technology is transporting those that are disabled or elderly and unable to drive themselves. This kind of technology would give them some semblance of independence from not being able to drive themselves. At the end of the day, as mentioned in the video… If you are going to hit someone be it another car, pedestrian, or bicyclist, chances are the accident as a whole was unavoidable be it a computer or a person driving.

[@CitEnthusiast]

Their decision making process is similar to what was taught to beginning motorcycle riders 30 years ago = SIPDE. That is Scan, Identify, Predict, Decide, Execute. Lots to do with that and the unprotected left turn was impressive. But throughout your video the AV's steering wheel is moving a lot, frequently back and forth trying to find the right spot. I've experienced this behavior in much less sophisticated cars with just lane-keeping, and it's annoying as well as affecting in a small way the car's efficiency. The same for adaptive cruise control, if the vehicle in front of you is varying speed so will your vehicle, becoming once again less fuel efficient. I think you should have noted that Mobile-Eye is a competitor of Tesla's system for autonomous driving, just so everyone watching is aware. Another point I'd make is that while multiple engines on an aircraft do provide a significant safety margin, the concept of redundant systems should be compared to redundant aircraft controls such as electronics (three computers) and hydraulic systems. This is much more relevant than a failing engine since if the AV system does fail you do have the ability to simply drive the darn vehicle. A good video and there is so much to discuss. Thanks for this introduction to AVs.

[@dessilverson161]

Very interesting Jason

[@lyfandeth]

Ok, ok. I just want to know, has EITHER team considered that I brake for unicorns? And tortisuses, but not squirrels?

[@TheJawRaw]

Kind of ironic that Jason doesn’t have FSD for his Tesla and this is the first time I’ve heard him talk about the subject. Would like to see a comparison video

[@Darcyds]

Yes I’m curious to understand his thoughts on it too

[@AleksiJoensuu]

Heh! We have a humorous saying "Aaah, no-one came from there yesterday!" implying that it's totally fine to run that stop sign or not look too carefully for intersecting traffic. Now there's a new technology that *already knows* no-one came from there yesterday!

[@gregholloway2656]

AV won’t truly be emulating human drivers until it’s driving in the left lame, 10 below the limit, with the blinker on. Just kidding, loved the video, Jason. 👍

[@EngineeringExplained]

Hahaha, the go to move for PNW drivers!

[@billbrowning3021]

Nice video! One caveat - not all aircraft twin engines are redundant and it’s an error to think of them that way. They usually require both to “fly”. A twin on one engine will fly well enough to get you to the scene of the crash unless handled very carefully.

[@jamesphillips2285]

I assume he was referring to aircraft rated for ETOPS operation.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

They have a distance they can travel on one engine. Since the newer engineers are far more reliable they have a longer distance allowing for trans Atlantic travel.

[@majorchungus]

If I can sleep and the car takes 5 minutes longer to drive because it drives like a grandma, I wouldn't care that much.

[@1300l]

It remind me of the movie Gataca. The scene where they want to cross the streets and no car slow down (as both humans are enhanced and cars i think were self driving cars). The more precise, the faster it can go without accidents. Trouble is that even the best driver is prone to make mistakes or to be distracted, machines aren't

[@PuhuTube]

Very informative video, thanks.

[@nicoxis]

This was packed with great insight on how mobileye operates, nice work Jason. With so much footage, it would be cool to see a full comparison to Tesla's FSD.

[@ecospider5]

It was interesting that they configure the cameras before putting them into the cars. Tesla does that when they are in the cars over the first 50 to 100 miles of having the human drive. Obviously the difference of mass production and just a small fleet.

[@thomasreese2816]

Tesla cameras can also recalibrate automatically (currently requires a button click to recalibrate, but could be completely automated)

[@nicoxis]

@@thomasreese2816 how is snow or dirt handled when they cover the lenses? Depends on manual cleaning?

[@RB-pi3jl]

Tesla's approach is less & cheaper sensors (cameras) and once they solve general AI it's game over for everyone else including Mobileye. Why do I feel this way? Because I drive the Tesla FSD beta software daily and it's getting very good. Plus, it is the only generalized approach to autonomy which means it can be dropped into the middle of nowhere and works, with no pre-mapped roads needed.

[@MsAjax409]

I agree. I have been driving FSD Beta for 2-1/2 years. The system is getting very good. I have to point out, however, that Tesla's system still depends on map data which varies in quality. Tesla may have to take a page from Mobileye and generate their own road maps (including parking lots) before Level 4 autonomy will become practical. In too many instances when visual information conflicts with the road map data, road map data takes priority.

[@yehudadm]

I actually live in Jerusalem about 200 m from their headquarters 🙃

[@goode.110]

This was very interesting! Great video!

[@nadavgoldberg603]

Great video! Also: As an Israeli who lives in the states I would like to apologize for my home country's animal-like drivers, and say traffic has become noticeably worst in the past three years for various reasons, so it's interesting for me to see how AVs are dealing with that. Hopefully it'll get better once some of the public transportation projects will be completed. I hope airport security didn't give you a hard time. They do that some times (especially if you're not Israeli).

[@gsadow]

I heard that Israeli drivers are bad repeatedly from Israelis, so I was a bit concerned when I travelled to Israel. My conclusion: Israel is EASY compared to lots of other places that I've been (try the Boston area, for example.)

[@nadavgoldberg603]

@@gsadow I live in Philadelphia nowadays, and must say Israeli drivers are - in general - more aggressive. I've never been to Boston, but from what I've heard Philly is considered to be one of the ruder cities in the US.

[@JackOfHearts42]

In the US, you know that it will just be filled with countless lawsuits if the car reasonably break a rule for its situation but then still ends up in an accident it cannot control. US is a lawsuit trigger happy population afterall, as blame HAS to be assigned to someone.

[@russellstokke6888]

Blocking the crosswalk in the final clip. I hate that!

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

Can a Robo Taxi lean on the horn? Does it have a way to make rude hand gestures?

[@charliemaybe]

This is the most impressive self driving vehichle. Hell, from what was shown, it drives better than many people I know.

[@jimfabry]

I'd love to see an "aggressiveness" setting in autonomous vehicles. Scale of 1-10, how aggressive vs. conservative to you want the driving style to be. Likely would need laws that allow for drivers to be at fault for selecting aggressive driving in case something bad happens, but that's a risk we all take when driving already so I would imagine most drivers would be okay taking on that liability. And if the vehicles can communicate via Bluetooth or similar, they could better predict each other's behavior based on knowing the aggressiveness setting of each car in the vicinity. It could help quickly negotiate right of way in uncertain situations.

[@stephenriggs8177]

Intentional planning works better in some cities than in others. In Houston, it seems that everyone's goal is to get from Point A to Point B, as quickly as possible. I can assume that's the case and plan well. But when I live in Lubbock, I never discerned a pattern. Some drivers just meandered, so I found it found it hard to guess what they were going to do.

[@andrejjovanovic4431]

Amazing video!!

[@lowgrs1]

I was a programmer on 2 self-driving car projects in Arizona. I can affirm that the cars need to be able to decide when to "break the law". However, it is always a weighted decision, just like humans do.

[@Muskar2]

I'm curious how much data Mobileye is getting. At 5:22 they're kind of suggesting that much of the OEM fleet is collecting all this data in a similar fashion and scale to Tesla (HQ asks for clips of specified situations, the fleet find those and return them to HQ, data is automatically filtered, labeled and processed for NN training and then the car is updated - rinse and repeat). Is that correct?

[@thomasreese2816]

Most cars in their fleet have very basic sensors and likely minimal upload capacity. They also have a large number of sensors to support. The usefulness is unlikely anywhere near the two-way communication between Tesla's fleet and HQ

[@ADent1]

In Colorado bicycles get three feet of clearance, and it is legal to cross into the other lane to do so, even with a double yellow line.

[@Flies2FLL]

In Flori-Duh too. But most pickup drivers don't understand that and will literally brush you aside with their mirrors. On purpose-

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

This is a cool video. I like how it shows what the car would do. I have wondered how the car would do if something became damaged while driving. Like a flat tire or something bad happen to the suspension. Or maybe not safety related but just annoying, like a cardboard box getting stuck under the car. Would it be able to compensate? I also wondered about security. Like people tricking the system to make the car to do unsafe things or to toll the user. Like setting up mannequins or somone flashing fake lights to think its being pulled over. A human could see they where fake (oh thats just some kid on a bike with a flash light) but im wondering how the car would handle it.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Glad you enjoyed it, and yes, there's a lot of questions surrounding the various scenarios these cars fall into!

[@user-jr1hm3jw2i]

How easily can these be high jacked in a way that's not hacking? If you threw a bunch of objects in front and back ( all around ) would it stop the car? Would it confuse the vehicle to where it just stops leading to a possible break in?

[@MikeSiedlecki]

Instead of "teaching" the car to break traffic laws when logic dictates, what about just introducing that same logic and flexibility into our traffic laws?

[@pittvypr]

Whiteboards just bring good people together.

[@Avdlp]

Technology is in constant progress, but still, I believe this shows clearly how perfect of a machine is the human brain and body... I know that for many people this is a dream and it could also improve safety on the road, but personally I will just keep driving myself and enjoy my stone-age-old manual transmission. Anyway, thank you for the interesting video, as usual.

[@ProXcaliber]

We do this everyday, so it's natural for us, but if you think about a new driver, say 16 years old, they won't know how to drive too well in a lot of scenarios. I think this technology is basically at that point currently (the new driver part) and will obviously only get better as time and technology progresses. Maybe one day we will see this become the standard on all cars, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened within the next decade or so. For me personally, I'm excited for it because as someone with elderly parents, this would give them so much more independence than having to always ask me for a ride.

[@MrTaxiRob]

This is much more practical than Tesla's full AI with no LIDAR goal, but it will still need tech built into the roadways for real full self driving to work.

[@MsAjax409]

It's not at all practical if it's not economical. The cost of all those redundant sensors and computer systems, not to mention the elevated power requirements may the system a laboratory experiment.

[@David_Crayford]

Not a lawyer, but I just heard that you can't call them Self-Driving in California because of the level of driver input required.

[@filipos7459]

Awesome technological developments and a great video. If nothing else let’s hope this technology makes car avoid collisions and raid fatalities. It’s feasible that the driver still drives but the car intervenes to brake and steer away from a potential collision. Great stuff

[@cuteshadow]

Living in a rural area, with limited road markings, probably less road data and upcomming winter, i would like to try how it handles in that weather. Not including people behaving like deer.

[@quinnthompson]

This is incredible - I didn't know autonomous driving had advanced this far with this level of reliability. Very cool!

[@MikesTropicalTech]

Great information! I'm curious which car companies MobileEye has partnered with to have "millions" of cars on the road right now.

[@thomasreese2816]

They are the most common provider, but of basic Level 2 systems. Most are likely not high-value, if valuable at all in their data collection

[@1888fel]

I guess unconditional love for white boards is an engineer thing

[@EugenioPicado]

Amazing video and information. Great job. Wow

[@tangoteamleader]

I can’t wait until we get head-to-head competitions between autonomous driving vehicles to see how they each react to similar environments

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

Oh, that's a Chinese car Nio! Some have swappable batteries!

[@Factoryseconds123]

Mobileye is easily top 3 in the av industry