Are Bullet Ricochets Actually Lethal? - Ballistic High-Speed

[@smartereveryday]

Really nice setup! The protractor and shield were both great ideas.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for stopping by Destin.

[@jukeseyable]

@@BallisticHighSpeed my feeling of why the 45 degree was still producing a significant rearward shrapnel component is at the point of impact, the plate will deform slightly this would momentarily reduce the actual angle from the set angle to a reduce one, this with anti armour rounds older designs of anti tank shell, this is termed the normalisation angle. at the point of impact the shell deflects agains sloped armour, it will then try to strighten up, the amount that it strghtens is its ability to normalise. this varies masively from design to design

[@MrHowzaa]

@@BallisticHighSpeed I dont understand why you are using the shield to cock the gun. Is it insurance requirements?

[@Loriethalion]

Please do a collab, or if you already have, do another one!

[@thomasmiddlebrooke1012]

@@MrHowzaa I would assume it's incase of an accidental discharge. It's not likely, but also not impossible for the hammer or striker to drop by accident. The shield would catch shrapnel and debris.

[@rmp5s]

Yup! In the Corps, they told us not to be right up on walls...that "bullets follow walls". Really interesting to see a bullet LITERALLY follow a "wall". Very cool!!

[@PRC533]

I was taught the same when learning how to make entry and clear buildings. That and remembering that most walls in the US can be shot through easily.

[@rmp5s]

@@PRC533 Oorah motivator.

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

I've personally never seen a high carbon steel wall.

[@rmp5s]

@@quantustremorestfuturus5434 ...wut?

[@quantustremorestfuturus5434]

@@rmp5s bullets bounce well on the hardened steel in the video. They tend to penetrate real world walls

[@oskar6661]

I think there's also an issue with the distance at which you're ricocheting. At point blank, the bullet is probably significantly more likely to shatter vs. 100-200 yards out when it's lost velocity.

[@mattfleming86]

I will put out there that they are shooting 45ACP, so the velocity is already representative of other pistol rounds at a greater distance.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

@@mattfleming86 Exactly. The velocity is already far below what something like a 9mm would be.

[@Visual217]

​@@mattfleming86ok but the caliber & mass is different. The energy imparted won't be exactly the same even if they're travelling the same speed as other rounds. It's a different amount of surface area making contact with a different amount of mass behind it.

[@ranndomundead9112]

ricochets require a shallow angle. speed is oretty irrelevant

[@fusionwing4208]

@@ranndomundead9112 not necessarily, there are many videos that have had ricochets at nearly dead on angles (90 degree), probably the most well known example is the 50cal ricochet that took the shooters ear muffs off. that was a long range shot, and that bullet is travelling far faster than any pistol round could dream of.

[@isaac-vb1ng]

You guys are literally doing the stuff everyone has wanted to be able to see since we were kids, super underrated channel for the quality of their work

[@recoilrob324]

Basic infantry training is 'Stay off of walls' as ricochet's tend to follow along the wall even with varying degrees of impact. It's a good thing to remember if people will be shooting at you. Edit: this was mentioned later in the video....sorry to repeat it.

[@robertsmith4681]

This vid shows that there is definitely something to that advice.

[@adamtwelve]

Don't be sorry, it's good to hear others say it also and reinforces the validity of it

[@henrihamalainen300]

I've read that for example in Mogadishu the locals often put only their guns around the corner and used the wall to line their shots along the side of the street. The other reason to avoid walls in military context are all the ammunition with explosive fillers flying around like 20mm, 30mm, 40mm, RPG, LAW etc.. If one hits wall next to you it might be lethal but if you stay off the walls you might survive.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@henrihamalainen300 tbh i dont think staying 6 inches off a wall will save you from a 20mm or higher

[@angrydragonslayer]

​@@squidwardo7074it will save you if it hits the wall ~2 meters away and the big shrapnel flies along the wall

[@TopShotDustin]

Some really cool footage and great editing guys! I’d love to see what an actually full metal jacketed bullet would do. What was being shot in this video was a cheaper electroplated bullet (if I had to guess maybe it was CCI Blazer). They don’t hold together near as well upon impact and are only plated thick enough to protect your rifling from lead fouling. Actual copper jacketed FMJ rounds would probably yield larger chunks off the steel plate and be much more dangerous downrange.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Good info to know! Thank you! What brand of actual FMJ would you recommend?

[@suspectorange]

​@BallisticHighSpeed shoot some Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot hollow points, the jacket is bonded to the lead core and it would be interesting to see whether the tip geometry plays a significant role in deflection/attitude after impact

[@manfredconnor3194]

Naw, they just turn into fluffy nerf fuzzies. 😂

[@Rando_Shyte]

Y'all should try different wall materials too like concrete, bricks and cinderblocks, since most walls aren't AR500 steel :) Love your content guys keep it up!

[@nick_steele9790]

Asphalt too!

[@somecsguy9824]

and water. slow mo guys touched on this accidentally but it'd be cool to see it done more extensively like this video

[@frozennorth3426]

You’re saying AR500 steel isn’t the ricochet surface everyone cares about? 😅

[@SwavyAvxry]

@@frozennorth3426no he’s just saying that it isn’t the only surface that people wanna see what happens when shot at from an angle

[@wowplayer160]

@@SwavyAvxry Steel is fine. The point is showing ricochets and they did it.

[@TheFirstCurse1]

I really appreciate all of the safety precautions and how sophisticated the whole system is. Really seperates you guys from the other guys who'll just pull the trigger with a string.

[@robertsmith4681]

would be interesting to see the difference between lead core pistol rounds and steel core rifle rounds.

[@goranmalnar5172]

Yes and they should tray hard cast bullets

[@russtuff]

And solid copper.

[@jaredmaki892]

Steel core... Straight on to capture those rounds that come straight back…

[@robertsmith4681]

@@jaredmaki892 High speeds I've seen of straight on steel core shatters the core and sparks, a lot, there usually isn't much of anything to throw back.

[@shize9ine]

Might as well throw some frangible rounds in the test as well to have the other end of the spectrum

[@josegquintero]

Nice video; long time ago a lost bullet richochet against my sternum, i was in the car, suddenly the door’s glass exploded, i felt something hitting me in my chest, thought it was a stones, but when searching on the car’s floor, found a bullet; it looked like the 15º test you guys made; i believe it bounced against something and the cars glass reduced even more the energy; i was lucky that it hit me on a bone and not on a vital organ or the head. I guess the bullet was fired far away because i didnt hear the gunshot. This video explained me the physics behind that event

[@JimFosterVO]

It would be interesting to try with a steel core (M855) or an all copper projectile. It seems like a lot of the riccochet energy is going into deforming the lead. Harder metals should produce different behaviors.

[@charlesmckinley29]

And steel core will create divots that will cause more ricochets.

[@jason200912]

nobody is going to be shooting coppers. steel core yes for military science

[@clv603]

Man I remember when this channel had somewhere around 10-20k subscribers just a couple of guys shooting high speed pew pews out by the edge of the corn field lol. A sucker for high-speed and ballistics separately, I immediately subscribed. I didn't even notice until happening to glance at 300k--huge congrats!

[@JohnDoeTheTroll]

Just Wow!!! The content you guys produce is simply amazing... Very high quality, interesting content, excellent execution!!! I love seeing your channel grow, but will miss the smaller channel feel and interaction with you two... Congratulations!!!

[@JetEyeMonkey]

One I've always wanted to see. Since air is friction. As a soft point/ lead tip is flying through the air. It expands the bullet tip over the trajectory it's heading

[@whiskeyandammo]

This was fun to watch. In law enforcement we always teach you never hug the wall in long hallways. We used to teach officer how to skip rounds under cars by shooting at and angle and skipping the round to to target on the opposite side. The bullet would ride just inches above the ground to the target. Same with cinder block walls. This is also why you should never shoot over the hood of a car. The suspects bullet could be low, skip of the hoop and still hit you. We practiced this all the time at the range.

[@edibandulan5266]

I watch this training movie, back in the day when the US Police is using Colt revolver chamber in 44 special i guess, and it show the ricochet is actually going straight rather than bounch, bullet which bounching is actually a rubber bullet. Sorry for bad English.

[@Gunbudder]

i remember learning about bounce angle and it blew my mind. the range i took shooting lessons at did their own experiment and they put up a tarp and just shot the concrete floor at various angles. what they found was that for most natural angles (resting with your gun pointed down naturally), the bounce angle was nearly the same. it still blows my mind that bullets don't reflect off like even remotely close to what you would expect. and that's to mention spalling from a jacketed round hitting steel! i've been hit with spalling in the neck, and it was a jacket that came up over a 12 foot berm and down into my neck. thankfully it was essentially just a bee sting and barely broke the skin

[@desk4563]

i believe that trying this experiment with either larger calibers or bullets with different material. like brass bullets, AP, etc. that would be amazing to see in slow mo

[@bluecollarmax6949]

I am a machinist and work with all kinds of metal. This is my opinion, and its pure conjecture, but I think you will find that cold rolled or mild steel will ricochet less. the softer metal will absorb much more of the bullets energy. I look forward to seeing if I'm right. Keep it up guys, you're doin great..

[@TheSpartan186]

Yes, that was my conjecture. I'm curious if a more ridgid plate setup might see a bit more a ricochet?

[@Adam-nv9zo]

This could be revisited in so many ways. Hopefully, we can look forward to seeing more in the future. Awesome video, as always, guys. 👏 👏 👏

[@JoeHTX]

Good information and excellent video. As far as ricochet goes, most take place a LOT farther from the target. You're so close to the plate that the bullet is virtually still at muzzle velocity! And softer steel will not give more bounce. The harder the surface, the greater the bounce. Try dropping a ball on a tile floor from 4 feet, then drop the same ball on a carpet floor and see which surface makes the ball bounce the highest. One way to test the hardness of steel when you don't have a tester is to drop a ball bearing on it and see how high it bounces, the higher the bounce the harder the steel. That's how blacksmiths used to check the surface of an anvil, by dropping a ball bearing on it to see how high it bounces. If you back the gun up about 30 feet, I'm pretty sure you'll get a ricochet at a steeper angle. Bullet design has a lot to do with it too. .22's are notorious for ricocheting, they use harder, cast bullets. Use some hard cast lead bullets and you'll get more ricocheting too. Just some suggestions, not criticism. It is a great video and very good tests and I enjoyed it and found it very interesting.

[@wes326]

I have a 3x6mm piece of bullet jacket from a .243 lodged against my right jaw. Been in there 40 years and hasn't been a problem. We were shooting a thick steel plate that was mounted on a tree. The bullets were drilling holes (tubes) into the steel but not penetrating completely through. The last shot connected with a previous hole and pieces of the bullet came back at us hitting both of us in the face. We had shot other bullets at the target before but they were relatively low velocity and just splattered harmlessly. Thanks for sharing.

[@upperroomtoo]

FMJ bullets are actually very soft lead cores. Try a "hard cast" lead bullet and see how they respond. I have seen some impressive results with hard cast bullets.

[@TiesOfZip]

Sweet, not enough videos like this. Now that I saw the whole thing, that was dope, guys. Well done 👍

[@finding.reality.]

Absolutely love this. Thanks for doing this. I am attempting to get into guns, mainly for home defense at this point; however, I am always concerned about bullets coming back at me if I ever set up/ go to a firing range.

[@DrSweetshaft]

Mild steel is a great idea. Cinder block would also be interesting. You might consider weighing the largest chunks left- retained mass. Also I believe 9mm is more commonly used than .45.

[@1958PonyBoy]

I was out hunting with a friend many years ago and we were walking up a canyon about 100 feet apart from each other with Mini-14's. My buddy saw a rabbit run out in front of him in the center of the canyon and fired off a round. That .223 bullet must have hit a rock and came back in my direction. It had flattened out and had lost most of it's velocity but sounded like the biggest hornet ever had flown past me.

[@perrywaaz3660]

Yikes

[@robertboyd3863]

A few years ago a friend of a friend was deer hunting , shot at a buck with slugs, like in a cartoon show, it bounced off I believe 3 items, came back hitting his partner almost killing him

[@JoesphEKerr]

Would love to see further ranges, and different types of bullets, against the same degree differences. Thanks much

[@MrTwabs]

Firearms examiner here. This stuff is fascinating and a lot of this stuff has been studied in the forensic community but seeing it in high def slow motion is very cool. If you look at the pattern on the steel plate you can actually determine the direction twist that the bullet has. Would love to see in slow mo something we call the can opener effect where the bullet tears sheet metal (generally through a car) and it's also directional meaning depending on how the tear looks, you can determine the twist direction that the bullet had.

[@TheBubbaMan]

I would be really interested in seeing what the ricochet off of a concrete pad, like a floor. What would the rebound angles be for a FMJ round ?

[@rogerm3708]

When I was a young teen standing in a circle with my friends, holding our 22's down toward the concrete, the rifle of the guy across from me went off. Almost 30 seconds earlier he had a hang fire. None of us were hit and I always wondered which direction it went

[@buddhajon96]

I don't understand how this channel is so underrated. The quality is so high.

[@PaperfoxArts]

Great stuff! This helps a lot with me implementing realistic ballistics in some of my game projects. Would love to see you doing a follow up with other calibers and softer targets! :)

[@lukesolsbery9760]

Good thought Fox, I'd like to similarly bring that into the table top RPG environment. These guys are informative.

[@joenuts5167]

There’s lots of other channels with high speed footage of ballistics 🎉

[@shermanmcdermott4211]

i would be really interested to see this done on concrete. as you mentioned mild steel would deform in an advantageous way of inducing a deflection. as most walls are mage of concrete with ablative ballistic properties and a far more common material, it would provide very useful data.

[@Uncommontater]

Great video, would love to see a similar test with both softer steel or other surfaces and higher velocity rounds

[@MyKingdomforAdRevenue]

Was hoping someone would make a high-speed ricochet video, this was awesome. If you ever do a part 2, I recommend testing different bullet materials like brass solids as well as different contact surfaces like wooden beams or stone/granite, it may be possible to get some actual intact bounces that way at sweetspot angles.

[@ryansnitker941]

The metal type has a huge affect on ricochets. Softer metals will deform and more of the bullet will stay in tact. Also when the softer metals deform, it will throw the bullet it crazy directions. When I was 15 I was shooting a 38 caliber pistol I think, and had a pretty good ricochet hit me in the leg from probably 30 yards away shooting random soft metal.

[@Mortanon]

Great video, as you test further with different calibers, target materials etc, they all have roughly the same delfection exit angle. This is why im most military or LEO training they teach you not to hug the wall. Its an instant way to catch a ricochet as in most angles of attack they leave roughly the safe exit trajectory.

[@theroller5673]

At what angle will a bullet ricochet off of water? Could be some amazing camera work there. Great video, one of your best!

[@Cyberguy42]

Slow-mo guys tested that recently

[@jeffreyyoung4104]

I have noticed the same results when shooting targets in front of AR-500 plates, the paper target shows the spatter ring from the bullet disintegration on impact with the plate. And it didn't matter what I shot, FMJ or lead pistol bullets all did the same.

[@willo7734]

Awesome content as always guys. I’d be interested to see what monolithic all copper rounds would do in that situation. I’m guessing there’d be a lot less crushing like lead and more unpredictable effects.

[@1394ghostman]

VERY cool video guys! Super informative and sooo much data visually shown. Thank you for taking the time to film and share. Suggestion.....this should be the first part to maybe a 4 part series that shows differences in caliber and distance from the target, also distance from the target to the jell. That would complete ALL my questions i have ever had dealing with this subject!

[@smoove_]

YEEEES! THANK YOU! I've been wanting to see ricochets in slomo for so long but havent been able to find and decent ones

[@nafnaf0]

Excellent video and attention to detail. Love that you provided the velocities before and after

[@Kiyoone]

This channel is one of the most professional that i've ever seen. You guys knows how to shoot (camera work)

[@mire2801]

Wow, what a great video! Also, please do a video of bullets hitting worn out steel plates- the ones with pock marks that are considered dangerous. Shooters are often told to discard compromised plates because the divots can cause the bullet to come directly back. A high speed camera can tell us if this is really true.

[@perrywaaz3660]

Boosting

[@toddribnek6660]

That timing rig is awesome. Here's a list of fun ideas: 1. 5 handguns side-by-side fired at the same time into sideways jell block. 2. 5 different guns fired at same time side-by-side into sideways jell block 3. Fire 1 gun into jell block and just as the jell is returning to normal shape, Fire another one. 4. Fire 1 into jell block followed immediately by the other one at the same aim point.

[@kamikazemelon787]

Love your guys' work. Best new KZbin weapons (and camera gear!) channel around.

[@VAM_Physics_and_Engineering]

very well done. loved the side by side comparisons with the protractor. subbed

[@philipoakley5498]

Reminds me of rain-drop (especially bigger ones >2mm) impacts on aircraft and their hard optical surfaces (such as Forward Looking InfraRed FLIR cameras, regular windscreens and radomes). There's a whole lot of interaction between the shock-waves traversing the contacted material, the position of the contact point and in the bullet case, the shock-waves along the bullet surface (Have a think about how a thrown dart or fired arrow manages to 'stop'). Those shock wave 'spats' are real interesting.

[@pylesgl]

Nice video. I always enjoy terminal ballistics slowmo footage. I'd really like to see the high speed of a handgun bullet (especially hollow points) transitioning a sloped windshield opposite of normal perception resulting in low torso or steering wheel hits. I understand the reason, but I just think it would be cool to visualize the trajectory redirect in slowmo.

[@die_11]

You have done a greatful work by prepairing and setting up everything. You have my admiration. - I think, the bullet you used is made to not ricochet. Try the same with some black tip round.

[@jeffreymontgomery4091]

WOW! This is why I subbed and keep you guys around. LOL! They just keep getting better and better! Also, thank you so much for demonstrating SAFETY FIRST! This is EXACTLY the kind of adherence that will do so much to help our cause. There are so many vids on Tik Tok, Facebook, etc, that are dangerous in the fact that they portray guns in an irresponsible manner. Many other platforms and other channels do this and that for "like" yet never mention or even demonstrate SAFETY First. This channel and content show the gun community and also the public at large that guns, vids, and related type channels can still be cool, fun, and entertaining without being ignorant or dumb. Responsible gun ownership, handling, and use is what it's all about while having fun and also learning a bunch! Again, what an awesome video, and please keep em coming! You guys are AWESOME!

[@AndyORourke-s5n]

What fantastic footage. Thank you so much. You should be spot on that a yielding surface would result in steeper exit angles so would be interesting to see that. I'm also curious to see how a non-lead monolithic projectile behaves.

[@Nicklafuego]

Love that you put a poll up and within the week had the video drop , was very interested in this one

[@MeowMeow-hj4xg]

heckin love this thanks guys! Interesting real world situation i thought of after you guys mentioned softer steel would be steel doors (either slab or the foam filled kind) that apartment complexes usually have vs say hollow points since thats what most cops / civilians carry. I've seen a couple shoot out videos where people have shot through those doors and the thought always stuck in my head what would ballistics of that look like and bam there you reminded me.

[@penfold357007]

The footage from that camera is outstanding. Slow mo is so cool. Thanks for sharing.

[@walterbrown8694]

Depends on the energy loss during the 1st and subsequent impacts prior to impacting the subject target.

[@artillerest43rdva7]

amazing images! so fast, so accurate! to actually see what happens to the bullet based upon the impact angle! then seeing the disintegration of the bullet! love to see some rifle rounds!

[@3wheelmannc860]

Fantastic video and data capture. It would be interesting imo to see that same type test at 7-10 yards for collateral damage, which "some people" believe is the normal contact range for self-defense.

[@Ryarios]

In offensive shotgun training, we were trained to take advantage of this sliding effect. We called it sluicing. For instance, if your target is hiding behind a car, you could aim at the ground in front of the car and the shot would skim the surface to strike them in the feet or ankles. It’s not something we ever discussed with rifles or pistols though...

[@whatisrealwtf]

Nice video very well done you guys are really doing some top tier work. I also really appreciate your weapon handling on this channel letting people know when the weapon is hot and when it is clear this is great range work and technique great job.👍

[@guckstdu2075]

What a great video. Please show it with other surfaces like brickwalls, wood, plasterboard or drywall, doormaterial, carhoods and so on.

[@SeanRoland-r1q]

Your videos are so well thought through. Very well done!

[@terjemaurset6133]

I have personally seen a video with a bullet ricochet at approximately 90 degrees angle. It was in the air force when some soldiers fired a handgun at a steel pipe standing upright in the ground at a shooting range. I would say it’s the same round steel being used for road signs in Norway. The pole made a nice resonance ping when the bullet hit. Was fired from approx 10 feet range. And they immediately stopped shooting once they understood the danger.

[@terjemaurset6133]

@BallisticHighSpeed. ??

[@chrisw4562]

Thank you for the video. That experiment was super interesting. Definitely good to know to stay a little bit away from a wall. I would have never guessed that.

[@robertl2987]

Great Videos, An idea for a video, I was shooting mild steel and was got hit by a ricochet lucky it was only a bruise. I think it would be interesting and a safety video. One of the causes of the ricochet I think was, The mild steel , I was shooting a high pressure scuba tank cut in half, 5.56 was putting 1/4 -3/8" deep craters in it a 50yd. I think the crater was focusing the shrapnel back to the shooter. Green tips would be worse. By the way i removed the mild steel targets for the rifles Thanks again for you great videos.

[@ProfessorJayTee]

At FLETC, we were taught ricochet shooting to hit targets behind solid cover, using a concrete/brick wall, pavement or concrete ground cover, etc. Better to hit them with big fragments than nothing. It worked best at about 15 degrees-ish off the plane of the cover. Too flat, it was hard to hit the backstop properly and you'd shoot past. Too wide, and the ricochets either went wild or shattered into nothingness. The shot would often "skim" the backstop, as your video shows. Great for shooting feet of someone behind a car. For the curious, we'd fold human targets nearly in half and place them on the floor/wall as if the person was leaning out to shoot. The shot would hit right in the heart or head. Taught us NOT to lean out while shooting from behind a wall!

[@oknevals]

During war, I've seen AK bullet bounce of the walls impacting at 2-3 places. Sometimes bullet would break apart on impact and fragments would hit different places. So, ricochet depends also on what kind of surface is being hit. One time, I was shoting 9mm straight at very sandy dirt but, when I looked back at video, the ricochet could be clearly heard on the footage. Camera was to the side of me, slightly behind.

[@ImminentThreatDefense]

Cool stuff, next time measure bullet mass retention and deflection angle. With mass and velocity you can calculate energy, which some would argue is an element of lethality. with the angle of deflection we could examine the rule of thumb about standing off the wall, i.e. how far would the bullet have to travel before getting 12" away from the wall. The other interesting experiment would be to see the deflection caused when penetrating glass (like a windshield). I've done the training and there's definite change in the flight path when hitting glass at an angle, turns out it's the opposite of what you would expect.

[@Archangelsword]

Material frequency formula, Brewsters Angle formula works for all things including light.Reflection or Refraction deflection. Also the resonate frequency of materials or mass.

[@jaydensmith920]

This is very quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. So many questions iv had from playing games get real life answers. Fuck yeah!

[@edk.9939]

I shot a baseball about 30 feet out with a 1911, had 230 grain ball ammo loaded, and was struck in the face by a barely deformed round. It hit me in the upper lip, no outside signs, but the inside of my lip was every color of the rainbow over the next few days. Don't know how it happened, there could have been rock behind the ball, or it could have just spun around and came back at me. I saw it coming from the golden glint of remington ball, but could not get out of the way. Any ideas? I shoot steel more now, a lot of it. Loved the video. You guys keep it up.

[@ubungus]

absolutely lethal, had a friend shooting his ar15 at a steel target, wasnt at much an angle at all and the bullet whipped back and struck his wrist and the ground right next to his head. glad he wasnt hurt too bad but damn it was gnarly to see

[@clydemarchand3049]

Great video guys. I’m a varmint hunter and the .17 cal rim fire plus 17 hornets are said to be the least likely to ricochet. Would love to see them tested down to 5 degrees

[@sultanofsick]

Nice to see visual evidence of the "ricochets hug the ground" statement from our yearly active shooter training. Considering how much other BS they cram into that (and other) 'training' I had no reason to take their word for it. I'd love to see a revisit of this with common materials one might have to worry about deflections off of in addition to the softer metals. Asphalt, concrete, brick, tile, wood studs, etc.

[@gunswnc]

so there is always a question about shooting steel at close range with rifles especially if it has dents and divots. It would be interesting to see the difference in spall shooting steel from 100 yards vs close up straight on and what happens when that steel has some defects from being dented already. Do the craters make a difference in safe shooting distances? I hope that is clear enough

[@markej4801]

Fascinating study! Thanks for the great vid!!!

[@catgynt9148]

What a great video for my high school physics class. Bullets are way more exciting than pool balls. I sure appreciate your content in these videos. It is obvious that you have seriously upped your level of safety. Perhaps a backstory video documenting the evolution from lightweight table and dirt berm into the heavy wooden structure you are now using. Great use of the overhead mirror to protect your camera and body shield. Several comments have suggested different metals and building materials. If you are going to consider a variety of materials include a car windshield or two. By using laser sights could you add some distance from muzzle to target? Wishing you two gentlemen a blessed week filled with gentle seasonally appropriate weather and restful evenings. Cheers

[@knowlzy0791]

You called it all! We are currently developing a multi video series on shooting through windshields and windows alike, so stay tuned on those ones. We will absolutely be screening the comments and compiling the next ricochet episode.

[@catgynt9148]

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[@TheRealFreznoBob]

I've used concrete ricochets to disorient and stop movement down a hall so I could run up and point blank them around a corner. Ricochets have never killed for me but have been very useful.

[@onikage777able]

Ive noticed in your guys' videos that during the high-speed takes, when focusing on a particular fragment of a test even while during the explosion be it from gun fire or an actual explosion you still capture the audio of the activity of fragments of a round or shrapnel with seemingly laser accuracy. Do you isolate the sound with software to highlight a particular item in the video's expression or are you using and advanced audio hardware? Very curious. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Love your work, fellas. Always ready for the next production.

[@charleshapner5071]

This is very interesting, try it again with lead free bullets, there are manufacturers that make bullets that are solid copper or other materials and some that are pointed not ball nosed and those may deflect at a much lower angle and more intact.

[@RedVRCC]

There's so many factors determining whether it's lethal after a ricochet like distance and how much velocity it retained. There was one thing I read about online where someone was shooting the .950 JDJ and it managed to ricochet and hit someone in the ankle. It left a nasty bruise but nothing else. Meanwhile I've heard of a comparatively tiny 5.56 being lethal on ricochet.

[@moushunter]

Two weeks ago at the range a guy was shooting at a steel target with a 3 inch hole in it and a clapper plate behind the hole. It is a 25 yard pistol range, outdoors. He was shooting a 38 special with jacketed round nose bullets...factory loads. One shot hit low on the outer steel plate and then the steel post the target is hanging from. I saw the bullet hit the post and come straight at me tumbling end over end. It hit the metal trim edging of the window and dented it pretty good. We found the bullet a yard from the window. It was collapsed slightly at the nose but the jacket was still fully intact. I've noticed a lot of bullets fired at the 2 hanging clapper targets end up 20 feet away against the concrete jersey type barriers to the right of the targets. Most of them seem to be plated bullets I'm sure there are just as many bullets to the left of the targets as well but there is 50' of bank before the barriers at the other end. When the shoot house roof was replaced last year there were several bullets found lodged under the roofing shingles. Steel target ricochets are a real thing.

[@rohawaha]

I have seen this technique used in combat numerous times in Baghdad in 2003-5 and it became an effective combat strategy. In the initial phases of street fighting " urban combat " many poorly trained fighters would gather in alleyways and pop out one or two at a time and blast a burst of AK fire and pop back in the alley causing casulties " and really pissing us off . Someone " and I don't know who to credit " told us that if you fired at a wall at 30 degrees or more at a wall , that the bullet would " follow the wall tightly " and impact parallel with the wall. We were skeptical, so we got some " cardboard insurgent simulation targets" and tested it , By Golly it worked ! about half the time some bullets fragmented, sending F.U. fragmentation all over those target and intact bullets also. We used it in two situations mainly, Situation 1. When we encountered the alley way pop out shooters, we designated 3 men in the unit as Wall as Holders , Top Holder 5' Hold , Middle Holder 4' hold , Bottom Holder 3' and lower . Then we would give them the command " Suppressive Fire " each Marine would begin firing a round "every one second" at their designated hold sight picture. The result was anyone who stepped out of the alley walked into a beehive of 5.56 rounds and fragmentation for 30 seconds , I witnessed two events where fighters were badly head wounded just trying to peak out to see what we were doing . We used this method to maneuver troops and weapons systems, it was very effective in reducing casulties and avoided the whole squad tunnel focused on one threat in a sea of threats and firing precious ammo. I would tell you the other method we used it , if it wasn't for that Dam Geneva Convention. Different wall materials produced different effects, but if you experiment with different angles and changing the initial impact closer to the target you can almost always get it to work effectively with some good old American ingenuity . Semper Fi !

[@acetylene7203]

Les images sont complètement dingue..🤯🤯🤩🤩. Tout bonnement magnifique.👏👏

[@georgehill3087]

I've been wanting to see this for so long. Glad you made it.

[@freedomseeds2864]

Follow up idea: Try concrete in place of the steel (simulation of floor ricochet) And try cinder block (probable success at 20 degrees or less). The softer granular materials may deflect at different angles or with more intact bullets. Id love to see it! Great video, thank you!

[@Madrider1024]

I wonder if the fact that you had the ar500 plate fixed rock solid is fully representative of the actual targets at the range. How about hanging it by a chain or mounting to a pole? Awesome video 👍

[@JonFoster48386]

Interesting video. It actually reminds me of the Demolition Ranch video where he was shooting through tubing with curves in it. In general, the bullets were following along with the curves of the tube. A slight nudge (low angle of deflection) was all it took in most cases. I'm also wondering what the results of this test would be if you placed the pistol at greater distances from the plate. A test with a rifle round should be interesting as well.

[@nikos6220]

Awesome video! Please repeat with the other end of the spectrum - 357 Sig Underwood Xtreme Defender 65 grain copper mono moving at over 2k ft/s

[@darrensquier4079]

All very cool to watch. I witnessed a COP shooting steel plates about 5 yards with cooper jacketed ball. A large chunk ricochet off steel 180 degrees, striking her in the chest. Penetrating all the way to touching her heart. The piece was left in her. She survived. This created policy of shooting steel at 15 yards or more , wearing vests on range, and limiting steel targets a great deal. Yes, lead can ricochet 180 degrees and be fatal.

[@gregr5077]

Really love how you guys take a more scientific approach than most, but are still able to keep the videos fun. Seeing the exact angles of impact and subsequent velocity on the remaining projectile was very cool, and like you said, gives empirical evidence to support the "don't hug walls" mantra. Well done, looking forward to whatever you come out with next.

[@jimbailey490]

Great data collection! Fun and informative! Thank you guys!

[@buddy3824]

Maybe try to see if you can ricochet bullets off of a cinder block wall? We know a bullet will bounce on steel, but how often are you standing next to a steel wall in real life? I would be curious to see ricochets off of more common building materials, if possible. You guys are awesome!

[@gunsandpolitics5510]

A cinder block wall would be orders of magnitude more common than a steel wall. Would be a very interesting and much more practical experiment.

[@tyreni]

Mastering the craft. Keep at it gentlemen.

[@ForestRaptor]

This is a great start for a full on series! Love the visuals and safety concerns! ALSO DATA!!!! Also as extra safety might be the case but from what we can see on the video, loading the bullet in the gun should be the last step before stepping into cover. But I love the extra layers of "I don't want to get shot here" ^^ Again, love the content, definitely want more variety for DATA, and while going through all those shots, y'all might get some interesting artsy footage! Question : how hot was the shoot day? a bit sad the data wasn't converted, but still great job with the info on this video

[@jerahmysmith4459]

I love the sciency feel of your videos. Great use of the phantom!

[@CeltKnight]

WAY back in my police academy days (most cops back then carried revolvers) they actually taught us about using ricochets. Especially with buckshot, but with handgun rounds too. Mind you, they did not want us doing it on their range. We were "taught" to do it with videos, and lectures, and I think the material was on some written tests. I can tell you that a 55 gr. .223 ricochet from 25 yards hurts like hell when it smacks one's tender skin, leaving a heck of a bruise. But no real injury. In SWAT school we had a know-it-all instructor from the local FBI office. He insisted we run a falling plate drill from 7 yards "because that is the prescribed distance, yadda-yadda." We tried to tell him the plates were too vertical and not safe closer than 10 yards, but ... okay ... Dude ran the course, and suddenly the instructor caught a flattened .40 round in his upper lip like a sawblade. Basically gave him an off-center hairlip. It also cut the shooter's face just under his cheekbone but he didn't notice it until we told him the "rain drops" he was wiping off his shoulder while laughing at the instructor was not, in fact, rain. Suddenly we were informed that we would henceforth shoot plates from no closer than 10 yards. LOL.

[@2AFreeState]

Very informative. I did not expect those results.

[@wodenswheelgun3278]

While shooting bowling pins at 100 yards with 9mm handguns we had a ricochet come back and put a deep gouge in the table next to us. It took hours of shooting and hundreds of rounds to happen one single time, but it was enough to rethink what we were doing.

[@gunner45357308]

Once again great info guys. Would love to see the same test, but with hard cast bullets out of the .45ACP and shot from say, 10 or 15 yards, to lower the velocity. I would guess you would get much more deflection. More of a real world test. Thanks keep up the great videos!