Are Chaos Furies Any Good in patch 5.0.3+? - Chaos Factions Unit Focus

Furies had a big buff - as in, 50% more entities, and more leadership, even a touch more armor. They are not the jokes they once were. Behold!
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[@mp5284]

It’s nice that they made them more Killy. Furies were always meant to be the more aggressive flyer when compared to the defensive tar pit of fel bats and harpies

[@OffToBattle]

50% more entities will do that. Not vanishing at the slightest sneeze will also do that.

[@phailupe2941]

Idk anything about their updated stuff, but chaos furries pre patch would always seem to survive just long enough to mess up my missile units, but not long enough to actually do anything useful besides infuriate me.

[@OffToBattle]

Infuriating is kind of the job of a fury unit, really. But yeah.. this is why I don't say they're 'good'. A player can still use them a lot more productively than before though.

[@spanner5940]

In multiplayer I use them often to take down slayers in a 2v1, and to tarpit damage dealers like cav and missiles. They often lose a trade to flyers but that's OK. As for singleplayer I haven't played a monogod since they got changed so no clue lol

[@OffToBattle]

Thanks for keeping a campaign main like me better informed about the multiplayer scene! Never hurts.

[@kirillrivkin4842]

I think that you can legitimately call them good- their primary job is to interrupt the ranged units from devastating your army. And they perform that jobpretty well, especially now. They can also pursue routing units- something that they are good at as well. I feel like interruption of charges and tarpitting cavalry are bonuses, and if they aren't amazing at it, does not really detract from their value. I think that if we want to fairly assess the Furies, we have to compare them to other disruption units- Fellbats, Harpies, Carrion, Hounds, Crowmen, Wolfrats, etc. Since all Chaos factions get access to Hounds, we can compare Furies to them and decide which unit is a better disruptor. I can tell you for sure that Empire, Dwarves and Kislev would love to have Furies on their roster, since they have 0 disruptors and anything is better than nothing.

[@OffToBattle]

I played some Settra lately and I can attest that Carrion still suck, heh. ...Well enemy armies set up to not let them walk over their stuff, don't. That's fine though.

[@linussyren9221]

They are amazing in small Especially at hero or lord sniping. In ultra they feel like wetpaper against most things they face. In both modes they can charge down turrets in 2-3 charges -> very good utility in sieges. Edit: they still die a lot in auto resolve.

[@OffToBattle]

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that." The old joke applies, don't auto-resolve with furies then ^^; But yeah, they're "better" but still have limits. Just are more forgiving and less.. completely worthless, which is where I'd put them in an army I don't intend to survive anything but being my legendary lord's reinforcement buddy. But... that comes up. Then all that speed actually matters.

[@linussyren9221]

@@OffToBattle my current campaign is Skarbrand in the old world Beta mod (map mod) (coop with a vampire coast) My army consists of (skarbrand and one cultist) 4, chaoswarriors 2 bloodletters, 2 marauders with duel axes, 3 Marauder horsemen, 6 Furries and 1 RoR Flesh hounds. My main damage at the moment comes from the furries attacking high value targets. :) But also great at going for ppl running. They are good against norsca (my starting enemy) due to the fact that swarming their skinwolfs kill them super quickly. You don’t need a lot of them but why not just have it since they are so good? And cheap… makes them even better in campaign. We are still early game around turn 25-30 and they kill more than Skarbrand most battles due to speed, high damage, and hit and run tactics. Also having them flank means AI starts moving and infantry can get in range to bog them down without range hitting them. I think they are my favorite unit I have access to right now and will probably stick around for a long time. I just need some Chaoswarriors halbeards to deal with trolls. Point is I would always go with an infantry stack with some war hounds as khorne in ultra, only taking 1 fury to hit towers in siges or out of desperation.

[@Fujiwaramoguu]

I was Suprised of how effective they are taking down pesky artillery and helicopter dwarves spam. I think they're un sung heroes.

[@OffToBattle]

They are now. They're really good as a bridge until you can get the Rot Flies slamming in.

[@Canuovea]

I don't play Chaos often, if at all, but I'll admit, this is a good change. I like when lower tier units can still be useful later on.

[@OffToBattle]

Yeah, you want a unit to be good at its proverbial One Job.

[@13g0man]

They changed from something to use as arrow bait, to something that can take out the enemies low tier archers and artillery.

[@OffToBattle]

They're just fine at that job now.

[@nailigniststarzear6689]

more dps still disappear when you don't looking

[@OffToBattle]

But less than before.

[@stochastic42]

They just gained 50% total damage, 13% total health, 5 armor, 15 leadership, and 66% mass. Their rear charges are devastating and they clean up missile units with ease. Anyone who doesn't think they are good now just isn't using them well.

[@OffToBattle]

I'll try to use them a lot more next time I run Chaos, seriously. I haven't done a dive into the new Nurgle campaign stuff properly. You have the right idea though, they're a lot stronger than they were.

[@p.p.wienersson]

Tbh they still suck BUT they are still good at the one trick they have. They destroy towers

[@OffToBattle]

I felt like some units like this just got shafted when walled minor settlements were ripped out.