ARE DRIFTERS FASTER THAN RACERS? | Let's find out!

[@ryker1730]

I wanna see it the other way around, put the racer in the drift car

[@driftgames_life]

Niall has his own car and will be competing this season in the Drift Games Nationals!

[@Shadowboost]

Tsuchiya... Dai for the other way around

[@nikeelm]

@@Shadowboost very true bro .. that man is a beast behind any steeringwheel

[@BARR3003]

look for drift queen on yt

[@jmgreetis]

It wouldn't go well for the racer...

[@TheCommentedOne]

Thing is a drifter is still a racer... A good driver is a good driver... No matter what discipline

[@magnetic0314]

Put a drag racer on a track and see how they do

[@TheCommentedOne]

@@magnetic0314 they'd do just as good... Drag racers are still drivers

[@TheCommentedOne]

Ever see a 2,500hp car break traction down the drag strip... It takes skill to keep it off the wall

[@magnetic0314]

@@TheCommentedOne That's a weird thing to say... each sort of driving requires different skills.. Some skills cross over, but someone who's never tackled corners before definitely won't be as fast as someone who does it for a living.

[@TheCommentedOne]

@@magnetic0314 i dont think you understood what i meant.... I said a driver is a driver no matter what discipline.

[@across_the_plane6800]

Clearly drifting takes skill, as does grip driving. Why wouldn’t a “drifter” be fast? It’s aboot an understanding of car control.

[@BboyVReck]

I would think all pro driver/drifter should always understanding about car control. racers need to know if suspension, chassis, and aerodynamic setup tune well for that track.

[@BboyVReck]

@@gsxr5922 yea F1 driver brakes 6 Gs before the corner, that's rough.

[@michaelgomez4994]

Going fast is just one part of road racing. You Win by saving fuel & tires. Staying out of trouble. Being perfect for a 2hour stint In any condition with traffic. while in drifting you do a 30sec tandom. Then stop.

[@michaelgomez4994]

S.N.R.DC5 then if you go to the big boys like f1,Indy car. You have to learn to hold your breath & have a strong neck. indy cars pull 5g 230mph lap avg for 200laps.

[@cosmicsurfer5911]

I am always amazed at how ex bike racers do so well especially when they get used to the brakes.

[@TwinShards]

I though it would have been one skilled drifter doing laps by drifting against a skilled racer. *triggered*

[@mustbehiggy]

nah, you're right. I came here fully expecting just to see the actual difference in time between drifting around a track and actually running in like a real race. Obviously the racer would win in time, I just wanted to see how much slower drifting the corner was in comparison. Oh well... maybe next time.

[@lucfournier3939]

I am also disapointed

[@robs6394]

I think a hybrid of drifting/gripping would be faster than both styles. Being able to throw a car into a corner with no brakes, but the experience of knowing how far your throw will push the car through the corner to grip up at the end would be key I think. In drifting the angles are for show, but if you wanted speed, you would go less deep and there would be more emphasis on how fast you could regain grip to exit the corner. In some corners, maybe you don't even drift at all because there is basically no corner there whereas if you were doing it for show maybe you would to link the track. Techniques like ebrake would slow you down, so probably would have to be mindful about initiating the turn as well, only initiating by lifting the throttle. That's my theory at least

[@andy2200a]

Deserves more attention this channel

[@jackedgar5688]

Andrew Squires agreed!

[@driftgames_life]

Awww shucks, you're making us blush ... Thanks guys! 😍

[@james8882]

100%. When you think some gimp is getting 10x more views for eating candy’s and recording it. 🤔

[@andy2200a]

@@james8882 they should make a diss track then make reaction vids

[@IOTWVUVWTOI]

WRC drivers are the best all round drivers by a mile

[@muhammadsyarifhidayatullah2931]

Don't Forget, to mention the Famous Group B from 1980s as well.

[@IOTWVUVWTOI]

@@muhammadsyarifhidayatullah2931 Amen brother!

[@FavoniusNavy]

Rally drivers are aliens from other planet vro

[@DR1V3R117]

WRC are the real initial D, on road and offroad. Go fast and drift at curves

[@taukedabai4613]

they are a different breed. XD

[@Bucky916]

I just happened across this video, and being the gear head that I am, I had to click it! This is one of the better put together videos I have seen as far as Editing, Quality, and overall production value. Now as far as content, I would give it a Enjoyable 4.5 out of 5 stars ( only because I am an American and forgot to turn on subtitles ).You fellas did a great job here, video was long enough to enjoy and at the same time short enough not to lose my attention. Very well done and I am enthusiastically subscribing to this channel ! Cant wait to binge some more of your videos !

[@dutch3049]

Keichi Tsuchiya, the original king of drift, went pro and raced in super gt with Hoshino Suzuki and now owns ARTA Aguri, the team he raced for. When people watched him it sent shivers down their spines and he is by far the best example of a drifter gone pro and being just as good

[@evergaolbird]

Nice video, its a nice introduction to those who has been skeptical to the art of drifting. Keiichi Tsuchiya - Touge Drift / Illegal Highway Racing for his time before entering Professional Driving, but also an All Japan Touring Car Champion (aka JGTC/Super GT) Nobuteru Taneguchi - 2001 D1 Grand Prix Champion / 2011, 2014, 2017 Super GT GT300 Chamion

[@PeakPerformanceReviews]

Haha race driver must have been sweating bullets! Fair play! Great vid 👌👍😎

[@clutchkickpj693]

Hmm 9laps compared to 2? Give the other guy the same amount of laps and lets see the results eh

[@PeakPerformanceReviews]

ClutchkickPJ oh I agree for sure, I race myself and I appreciate that more than anyone, but massive respect also to that guy, very quick learner and has a great skill set for racing and going balls out 👌👍

[@driftgames_life]

@@clutchkickpj693 Niall has only raced that car for 3 years, with almost all rounds in Mondello Park, so fair point!

[@Andybarney555]

Put to shame!! See why his face like that. Guy ant small. 1second disadvantage in weight alone. Guy needs to stop racing hes shit!! 😂😂

[@giraff614]

I was under the impression that a FD car was going to go head to head against a circuit racer.. Nonetheless, amazing work from a drifter coming in Hot with that time!

[@projectgtr]

Great to see stuff like this being made in Ireland, great job lads, class video

[@driftgames_life]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@paulward4078]

Your video showed up in my recommended and I’m glad it did. It all comes down to car control and basic principles. Great work and I’m a new sub 👍

[@rds-racing734]

Why aren't you guys more famous!!!! This channel is so good and I just found it 😯 ... Guys this was awesome always wanted to see how drifters stacked up against the other dudes!!!!

[@driftgames_life]

Thank you!

[@GaryLaaks1]

Awesome video. Lots of respect and camaraderie in any racing discipline. If it runs on fuel, I love it. Took my Audi TT on a race track on an open day 2 weekends ago. Loved it. Just loved it.

[@parameswara5586]

The drifter looks genuinely happy and excited after his finishing his last lap, and that makes me happy :)

[@seanperks2702]

"One of the best racers in the world" funny that I've never heard of him.. follow all forms of racing soo

[@driftgames_life]

.... in Ireland might be more accurate. We like a bit of hype!

[@Toxic2T]

never heard of him either.

[@btcannon2274]

@@driftgames_life wouldnt be a racer known in the entire world if it was just in ireland

[@austinstone8552]

Still never heard of either driver but they are both great drivers i wish i was doing what they are doing i know i can i just dont have the contacts and money and sponsors like they do..i can be the first person on your channel to be a race car driver that has never raced before and will beat his time in his own car i know i could get the time down to around 59.00sec i feel on a good day with more grip i could get the time down around 58.50seconds come on give me a chance at least on the VR simulator

[@austinstone8552]

@@driftgames_life give me a shot at it i know im capable of keeping up with the minute mark on that track i would just have to play that track on the sim allot to memorize the track once i did that i would no doubt i would be able to beat the minute mark

[@lukiuxx0]

first video ever watched from drift games, instant like, instant sub, epic!

[@driftgames_life]

Thank you!

[@Popgunner101]

I was watching my friend race his Porsche 944 spec car here in Utah at the Utah Motorsports Campus. It's a 4.4 mile course and there was a field of 22 cars all very evenly built & powered. My friend is a good driver having raced in that category about 9 years & he's won a few races. There was a 16 year old kid that showed up never having raced that track. The 16 year old was using a slight drifting technique during the race and ended up not only winning the race but lapping my friend the 4.4 miles of the track. The kid was a super driver. Everything was great except he did totally wear out the tires on his car. I race a corvette in a different class and wish I could spend some time learning from that 16 year old.

[@southchum101]

Drift vs Grip, it’s been proven that grip wins every time. If drift works, formula 1 would have used it along time ago.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

They did not want to tell if drifting is faster then not to. They tested if a drifter is faster then a racedriver in lap times.

[@azus4554]

You sound like Nakazato of the Night Kids

[@justindryden8145]

@Frenzied Unicorn Productions if you cant enjoy formula 1 there is something wrong with u

[@YaBoi-ru9yc]

Frenzied Unicorn Productions ever heard of a thing, if forgot it's name, wait I know, TYRE WEAR

[@robs6394]

Formula Drift? But in all seriousness I agree with Frenzied Unicorn

[@bjlasala8993]

This video was so well done that I was shocked 15 minutes flew by quickly. Was very shocked to see subscriber count as well. Cheers from Toronto!

[@johnjacob688]

I thought this video was going to compare drifting vs grip racing times. Good watch none the less.

[@6TWO1]

That was so good, filmed amazingly! roll on more !

[@15october91]

Car control/feel is a transferable skill.

[@iAudi90]

Race track driver are great too. They are mentally strong, racing for more than 1 hour in circuit under pressure. Let alone for 12 or 24 hour of racing. Huge respect.

[@LS48IRL]

It was a drying track. Important to mention. Still good enough going though!

[@driftgames_life]

All 10 laps were filmed within 15mins on one tank of fuel. But we weren't trying to be too anal about it.

[@petecotter6790]

Drying up the racing line. Seen seconds made up within 2 laps. Makes big difference especially in front wheel drive car!

[@yuemaeve]

Don't forget an emptying tank

[@mrhighlight8771]

See you watching possibilities.. Are as seen possible.. You have something you want to try.. First find passion.. And what is in front of you nothing can hide. 100%

[@driftworks]

Top vid guys! Love watching Duane drive any keeyar!

[@Chans_Den]

Next do racer vs drifter in two identical cars but battling in their respective disciplines

[@cuinnmcdermott8953]

exactly! that's what I was hoping for when I clicked on the video!

[@N54STY]

Exactly wanted to see the drifter be able to drift

[@yucoseko6362]

from taking corner with smoke.. now taking corner with efficiency.. good job

[@dannichol3181]

I've never seen this channel before but you guy's are sick I'm hooked on this channel now its unique

[@robertmiller6444]

I volunteer on sports car race team that runs in the 25 Hours of Thunderhill in the ES class. Our fastest driver in the car, that I have seen, is also a drifter. And when things get wet, he is even that much more faster than the other drivers. And the other drivers are no slouches in the least and they have my complete respect. Now, he also has crazy raw talent, so there is that. But I can totally see how that experience would add to the ability to press the car even further to it's limits. I am not a fan of drifting myself, but it makes me want to learn drifting to maybe up my own racing skills.

[@domi4307]

10K subs, and such a professional video, amazing!

[@driftgames_life]

Thanks! 🤪

[@CalvinMOfficial]

This should be on tv! 🔥🔥🔥

[@driftgames_life]

Thank you Calvin!

[@TheOffroader7458]

The racer looked pissed off lol

[@jacquesduplessis6175]

haha, yeah, bet he wanted a few more laps with the car warmed up.

[@Supercharged111]

@@jacquesduplessis6175 That and he may have left a little on the table. Got to wonder if the track got better too.

[@charlesharalson487]

And a dry track

[@iTzDr0p]

do rallying next that'll be awsome

[@driftgames_life]

Hmmm not a bad idea!

[@evanfogarty8476]

Amazing video lads can't wait for the next one

[@Kennedy_tattooist]

Real good watch! Keep up the killer content this was sick!!

[@driftgames_life]

Thank you!

[@furlockfurli2719]

Wow. This man is more than an excellent driver. Wow. Bravo matey!!!!

[@jackedgar5688]

Fantastic video lads!! Cant wait for the next one 👌🏼

[@wymanclark5582]

The first guy who started drifting was actually a racer who wrecked and broke his foot, he finished the race with a broke foot drifting the car. He got first place. I rode a 91 can-a-tuna (suzuki katana) for 4 years, if you know anything about bikes you'll know that this 600 was the bottom of the barrel crotch rocket. I always rode it sliding around corners when going fast. The only thing I cared about was keeping the front tire in my line and I didn't care where the back tire went. I rode with a lot of different people and it didn't matter how big a bike they had or how sticky their tires were they could not hang with my bike. When you drift a bike you can break a corner into multiple corners just by sliding then moving then sliding then moving depending on how tight the turn was. I never dragged my knee but I have heard it actually gives you a pivot point so the bike will turn sharper. I just went by the feel of the bike and kept all my weight on the front tire. I would think that in cars you could be just as fast if not faster than the guy who has grip. Just look at how fast rally racers are, they drift and grip.

[@justgrass3812]

Its just so tempting to go sideways for a drifter

[@tfsalnave1]

That’s impressive! But given the factors of race fuel, tire temp’s, track temps, the circuit driver would of nailed down sub 1’s easily..But given the talent of the drifter, hell.. he would of been trailing his times by the tenths the entire time the way I see it.

[@velvetwindow]

This was something I have always wanted to see, when will there be more? I WANT TO SEE MORE!!! Subscribed and waiting for the next Vid

[@cosmicdriver5104]

Me power slide fan, respect for gripper and drift they are both racers

[@EARDRUMASSASSIN]

Great video great testing great drivers! I got a good laugh when he said if the drifter beats his time he will have to beat em in drifting 😂

[@driftgames_life]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed!

[@PeterM0911]

Car control is different than be a good racecardriver. Drifter certainly has skill to drive a car on the limit. I don't think anyone honestly belives, drifters are less than any other racers. Who can drive all day long just beyond the grip, surely knows how to stay between the limits. Great stuff!

[@manspeej]

My favourite things to do in Forza Horizon 4 is dirt racing (rallying) and drifting

[@idzhamhaqim3528]

This is such good content and also very good in terms of quality. You should have like 300k subs or something. Good luck moving forward.

[@on_wheels_80]

I know a handful of skilled/successful drifters in person and I have huge respect for what they're able to do. Great fun to watch them or sit in the passenger seat. Thing is, they all describe racing to be far harder than drifting. I have to believe them, my car is great fun on roads, but not too much use in any track discipline. Done a little sideways with spike tyres on snow and when I'm joining a car slalom event every now and then and the surface is dusty enough, of course I'll have my fun with a loose rear end. On those slalom events and more so in the sim I get the impression that both don't have very much to do with each other and that any reflexes you'll learn with drifting don't help with racing a lot, or are even counter productive. Everything that happens during a great drift, or getting the car into a drift or even setting it up for that job will make a race car slow. You need to focus on and feel completely different things. Worst of all, when I'm done with fooling around, it takes quite a lot of time to get rid of bad habits. Having just spent a week on snow, I think skiing (or snowboarding) is a great analogy. Carving = racing, slipping/freestyle = drifting. Damn hard to thread together a number of clean carve turns, but the feeling that comes from the g-forces, the lean angle, the quietness, is extremely satisfying. Things get bloody quick real fast and it's an exhausting thing to do, both physically and mentally. Have the rear of the ski step out and it kills speed (and morale) immediately. OTOH I can wedel (for a lack of translation) down the hill all day long without breaking a sweat or ever falling down. But throw in some carve turns - not gonna work.

[@thefinch5861]

Cool video and sick host, Driver accent was hard to understand tho ahaha, do more of that stuff it was really cool !

[@BluestreakCorollaXRS]

Awesome! Loved this video - very engaging - keep up the good work!

[@michaelyoung6751]

That was brilliant!!! Really well done guys

[@TheGingerJonny]

No clutch kick?... Dat be fwd boi! :D

[@MrBrentles]

Drifting is car ballet. Great work. Awesome skills.

[@jamesbilbrey9380]

Awesome vid fellas! Let's see some more of this 🤙

[@driftgames_life]

We plan to dude!

[@TomasSheehan1991]

I'd love to see Dwanes time in his driftcar around the track

[@jaysimpson354]

Yeah definitely..!! I thought that’s what the video was to be honest

[@driftgames_life]

Maybe we'll try get something just like that filmed ...

[@jaysimpson354]

Drift Games that would be class I think anyway. Also I was thinking when ye do head to head it would be good for the channel to have the owners of the cars there to talk about them because let’s face it thay built the car and an insight to why, how long, inspiration etc.. just a thought love the Chanel it has great potential.! Will be booking drift lessons in the next week or 2 so will see ye soon.. piece ✌️

[@BeamRider100]

Yes, with a week to setup and fresh tyres.

[@sedicirich]

Nicely produced video, good editing, good subject.

[@joshuapallas9947]

As a person who slides a car and does track days, a drifter has an edge over a strictly grip driver in lower grip conditions but a grip driver can manage tires better. My damp day times are better than those who dominated in dry on those days.

[@zdruh1]

keiichi tsuchiya is DK and he is also one of the best racing legends.. So there really wasn't a question If drifters are good racing drivers.. because they are

[@meenishal]

Rowdy Burns : Now go get your own car and we'll see how you do in a crowd.

[@barryfieldbattleclips]

Well here's how I see this deal. Since you agree I ain't gonna let you drive this car to dinner and I agree you ain't gonna let me drive this car to dinner, there's only one way to settle this.

[@chrishew85]

Well done Duane never fail to impress mate

[@aditza579]

Let the racecar guy drive 9 laps and see if the drifter would be that close anymore. Tell the full story, not just half.

[@nzsill]

Mad Mike has driven GT3 cars in NZ and was faster than most full time GT drivers.. SVG is a V8 supercar and GT driver that drifts (check out some youtube clips of him drifting his supercar..) Rhys Millen is another. The bottom line is car control is king, that's the full story.

[@stefanpetrov8]

Well the racecar driver has driven hundreds of laps with that racecar, the drifter was literally driving it for the first time. I have no doubt they can both improve with more driving, the point is that they're really close. For not having driven any racecar let alone a FWD one, getting within 2 hundreds of a second of an actual racecar driver is remarkable and just shows his car control and ability to adapt.

[@bajanboyhood]

Firstly y not a race car champion as well? How much laps did he do on a drying track with lighter fuel load as every lap passed. Racing is about car control and drift car is a race car so don't make it seem like he is still a novice to driving fast. All racing disciplines must respect one another.

[@georgerosebush9754]

@Stefan Petrov He was within two tenths not hundreths, but your point still stands.

[@corradocupra4809]

@finlay morrison that's his car. As was the other one in the garage. He has driven the Supercopa more than anyone else in the country.

[@theinnerpalacemind3825]

That was awesome, I was sitting on the edge of my seat 👍🙂

[@AaronUnknownPerformance]

That was a great vid man!

[@AmilcarPenya1703]

i think the combinantion of the two is the best, like rally driving

[@HipsterNgariman]

Circuit racing is about operating the car just behind the grip limit. If you need super good car control skills it means you're doing something wrong already (unless you're driving bias ply old cars). However, drifter vs. rally driver would be more appropriate.

[@maxnaz47]

Already within the first 50 seconds of watching it, the answer is yes, a good drifter should have no problem becoming a good racer. It's about understanding clipping points, weight distribution, inertial braking and traction control controlled via right foot. It's the same for both disciplines, being on the very edge of control without loosing control. However, i would say a huge difference is the stamina level required to race endurance style races compared to 30-40 seconds of tyre shredding drifting.

[@Ticc82]

They are playing Assetto Corsa if anyone was wondering.

[@M3rVsT4H]

It was kinda funny watching the guy talk it up as if it was some next level setup they hand crafted from scratch lol.

[@Hoopty91]

@@M3rVsT4H it was advertisement for the VR shop..

[@williamcostigan469]

@@M3rVsT4H if I'm not mistaken they had to replicate the whole Mondello track themselves.

[@empirestr31]

No one asked, so stfu and fuck off please

[@ALBO]

Excellent work guys

[@yotsubaaaaaa]

Albo

[@Firefox1189]

When I saw this I was thinking, "Around corners, probably, but on straight aways it depends."

[@vincenzobeck2628]

Drifters drive over the limit constantly, helps a lot when you are driving a grip car to know how to go a bit over the limit and beeing able to control it

[@driftgames_life]

We agree. Drifting skills translate to track easily

[@davehughes2406]

Next challenge has to be in either a run in a full modified mk2 escort rallycar or wrc r5,mckeever v sam or josh moffet

[@PSMotorsport]

Loved that, I wanna see what time they both can extract from a drift car around here.

[@pistongeeks3578]

Anther great video from @driftgames 😎 @pistongeeks🇮🇪

[@OwnageProductions03]

As a 10 year sim drifting veteran, I'm slow. Like, really, really slow. Grip racing is a completely different discipline and I feel like I've made very little progress. Of course, this is sim vs. real world, but similarities arise. My confidence breaking loose in a RWD car is 9/10, my confidence putting down a lap time in anything, RWD, FWD, AWD, is like 3/10.

[@dylanward3244]

Serious video lads! Interesting to see how Dwaynes car would weigh up to that seat👌🏻

[@notnuggs894]

Duane*

[@MiniMattTV]

Love it! Get the racer to have a go at drifting

[@theseal666]

Awesome vid, great driving!!

[@Lolmaro.]

I want to see him drift this racetrack to see what time he can come with!

[@driftgames_life]

Maybe we'll see that some time!

[@Lolmaro.]

@@driftgames_life You got me hyped now haha!

[@danielmarques5469]

This question just popped in my head out of the blue, ps: not a car guy, thanks for the vid.

[@metrocaptain]

When you take their body weight difference, you could account for the time difference right there alone. I'd say the drifter was at least 50 pounds (25kg) heavier than the pro racer. Food for thought.

[@chaisan399]

this is just me but i think drifters usually end up because monster time attack drivers. they can get the maximum potential out of the tires and they know the in and outs of race lines.

[@Chpolly509]

Do a racer drifting!

[@ramziakas151]

The car got warm and lighter (fuel) in the end, so that definately helped the drifter, still seems pretty legit

[@alanfernandez9811]

love it, cheers from Mexico!

[@spacelube5845]

My friends always argue with me about always drifting in video games and saying that drfiting is the ultimate way of driving (on asphalt, because rally is another league) is pointless, because "best drivers don't drift". That who knows the limits of grip knows how to correct the worst situations while racing, so, well. That's why I always win when we go Karting.

[@yuemaeve]

I mean karting is in that aspect a bit different than car racing because in a kart you have a solid rear axsel which means you don't have much of a choice you can't drive a grip style like you could in a car you have to drive a bit beyond that in a really small drift.

[@spacelube5845]

@@yuemaeve Yeah, but also in games like Assetto Corsa, when I'm not the quickest, my friends tend to lose control more often and don't know how to correct, therefore losing lots of time and positions. Drifting abilities should be a must for racing drivers.

[@tessapolancos2122]

Racing is a game.. drifting is an art.. very different..

[@HTimmy82]

Check out Australian V8 Super car driver Shane van Gisbergen. The answer is hell yes!

[@Defytheordinary]

I was hoping it was 2 equally powered cars, one being drift tuned and the other race tuned. :P would've been cool to see

[@ithedominican]

Anybody could become a racecar driver would you need is the right coach

[@Kid574]

The way i see it, a drifter probably has a slightly easier time contorlling a race car. Drifters generally "feel" the car movements better. Race drivers have lots of technique on their side, their skill set is made of techniques: trail braking, understanding pre-loadint the rear tires, things like that. All those can be "easier" to learn for one who can feel the car shifting on the tarmac, knowing precisely when the tyres are about ti give up. That's obviously my opinion, i'm no racer nor drifter

[@MThre3]

if Duane had a proper motorsport coach, that boy could easily beat those times.

[@antwainmcgee2268]

Drifting requires a great understanding of the track. So, no surprise here.

[@ChosenDan]

Come on team Drift 🙌

[@nanderlizernanderlizer684]

no. the whole video is set up to favour the dirfter. conditions, time on track, you picked a british champion drifter and a nobody racer. stupid test.

[@bruizey7319]

How about the fact they chose FWD - not exactly an easy thing for a drifter to adapt to the different driving technique.

[@driftgames_life]

All 10 laps were filmed within 15 mins. We picked an Irish drift champion and Irish champion circuit racer. We thought it was fun to see what would happen!

[@bruizey7319]

@@driftgames_life Glad you did! What it proves to me is that experienced drivers will learn to adapt to almost any vehicle and get the best out of it in short time!

[@indaansel9558]

@@driftgames_life Still, in general, racing lines will be faster than drift lines in Racing Circuits and even at Rallycross, but try challenging a real racer vs a drifter in a MOUNTAIN PASS TOGUE and that really would be interesting to compare :)

[@Shadowboost]

@@indaansel9558 Tsuchiya, Taniguchi, etc all did it. Grip driving is faster than drift, they drift when they want to have fun, or if the surface is loose and it's more predictable to corner with some slip

[@adityarahardjo1212]

When in circuit track racers would win this chalange... but when it came to dirt / rally track? this undisputed drifters have no word than to say "flawless victory"

[@victorrosca3195]

drifting actually is recognized by FIA since 2017

[@danielshort568]

A big portion of racing is tyre management, try drift round a circuit for 30 laps and see if you don't crash

[@moombaman4663]

This is top notch content... Why does your channel have only 10k subs?