Are Gary Neville & Ange Postecoglou RIGHT about Tottenham Hotspur? 🤯 🤔

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Tottenham are recovering from their Premier League (PL) defeat to Arsenal in the North London Derby, but in the aftermath both ex-Manchester United defender Gary Neville of Sky Sports and Spurs boss Ange Postecoglou have made clear points about the future of Tottenham Hotspur.
But do you agree with them?
Tottenham face Coventry City in the Carabao Cup/ League Cup this week!
Tottenham Hotspur have not been quite as active in the transfer window this summer - only signing Archie Gray from Leeds United and Yang Min-hyuk from Gangwon FC, Dominic Solanke from Bournemouth and Wilson Odobert from Burnley - but over the last few years under Ange Postecoglou Spurs have been building a top youth side.
With the help of Daniel Levy, Scott Munn, Johan Lange and Fabio Paratici Spurs have lowered the average age of the squad to 25.
The Premier League is heating up with Arsenal, Aston Villa, Brentford, Brighton and Hove Albion, Bournemouth, Burnley, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, Luton Town, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United and Wolves aka Wolverhampton Wanderers, Ipswich Town, Southampton and Leicester City.
The former Celtic, Yokohama F. Marinos, Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory coach Ange Postecoglou and his Tottenham squad include Guglielmo Vicario, Pedro Porro, Cristian Romero, Destiny Udogie, Emerson Royal, Yves Bissouma, Pierre-Emile Hojberg, Dejan Kulusevski, Bryan Gil, Brennan Johnson, Son Heung-Min (손흥민) Richarlison, Pape Matar Sarr, Jamie Donley, Alfie Dorrington, Ashley Phillips, Oliver Skipp, Rodrigo Bentancur, Sergio Reguilon, Djed Spence, Ryan Sessegnon, Micky van de Ven, Timo Werner, Radu Dragusin, James Maddison and Dane Scarlett, Manor Solomon, Alejo Veliz, Giovani Lo Celso, Ben Davies, Fraser Forster, Brandon Austin, Alfie Whiteman, Ivan Perisic, Eric Dier, Japhet Tanganga, Tanguy Ndombele, Joe Rodon, Lucas Bergvall, Mikey Moore, Archie Gray, Yang Min-hyuk, Wilson Odobert, Dominic Solanke and Luka Vuskovic.
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[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

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[@craigmoy5428]

AS an outsider have to say Spurs fans are the most fair weather supporters I have ever seen in any sport, not win a game manager out...... Have a look at your history and your trophy cabinet and see what rotation of Managers does for you. Spurs squad are realistically about 7 or 9 in talent, last year people wanted the manager out when you fell one game short of the top 4.

[@peterkehagias]

Well said mate we do not deserve anything I hope this manager walks so our pathatic useless fanbase and club go back another 20 years it is disgusting what they are saying bunch of entitled wankers WALK ANGE WALK and let this pathatic club wollow in their own shite

[@mrcheapitem]

yeah how pathetic will they be at the beginning of next year when he's won them something but loses the first game? they'll still call for his head

[@jimmyf1446]

How can we be fair weather fans when we never have good times?

[@LGEightZero]

Let me guess: Celtic fan? I’m Ange in, however there are many Spurs fans older than me who’ve waited a long long time and seen so many false dawns for a manager to turn up and turn around the club’s fortunes (ie win some proper silverware). They’re getting smashed in the pocket every year with sky high ticket prices, watching the club grow and succeed in every area apart from the one they want to see - on the pitch. I don’t blame the weariness. This project under Ange is clearly going to take patience, Levy in particular has sucked the patience dry within the fan base. What fans really want is change of owneship and to see all that money they’re forced to pay turn into success on the pitch. But Levt is untouchable, so the manager is the only outlet available for that disgruntlement. A club like Celtic does not have this problem. It’s basically a one team league. You never have to wait for anything. Cannot compare these situations.

[@Diplomat.323]

Son needs to be dropped

[@EmmGee-pele77]

This Plan B narrative is ridiculous. How can you develop Plan B when the players are not nailing Plan A. When that occurs Plan B will evolve, like it always does.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Yeah that’s right

[@ashleydickson62]

@@EmmGee-pele77 and plan A improved defensively, teams are not even attacking spurs. Arsenals defense was superb

[@EmmGee-pele77]

@@ashleydickson62 plan A cannot be implemented with a mid block defence and a forward pressing game. So you want to go back to Conte/ Jose ball? You get A right and B follows. You don’t do half ass things. Let them defend. The goals will come. Woolwich had no plan B. Had we scored they were done and dusted and they knew it. That’s why they celebrated like they won lotto.

[@grahammerry7031]

@@EmmGee-pele77 Ange has to adapt plan A to suit different teams. That's Plan B

[@yourdad302]

Oh fanbase are disgusting. How are we already turning on Ange? The man is in the middle of the rebuild jus please give him time. Can’t really stress this out more but tbh if Ange leaves we will see him succeed elsewhere

[@peejayq]

💯 agree

[@rootytoot6085]

Everyone who leaves Spurs does much better elsewhere - most recently Rodon, Winks, Ndombfatbelly (who has also lost weight), Solomon, Parrott (who scored four goals for AZ in their last game) - the list goes on...

[@jeffbrown8861]

​@@rootytoot6085Yup, literally everyone who has played for this club under Levy has won somewhere else! If you're a spurs fan, please let that sink in 🤔🤬 Levy & enic are killing our club. Even if Ange wins something this season Ming & his crew won't do the right investment!!!! COYS

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

we need patience

[@karateefc]

Since we lost Chelsea last season we’ve been a average position of 9th the only top 6 team we’ve beat is Aston Villa the stats you can check

[@soccerprophet6495]

Few years back most of Arsenal supporters were against Arteta.... you can find hundreds of videos of that Ange Just started his 2nd season ...too early to judge

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

This is the point I have made!

[@vandammejam]

Arteta won a trophy in his first season and you could see progression during those early years. We seem to be going in the opposite direction . The set piece issue is beyond a joke .

[@peejayq]

A voice of reason finally 😊

[@stephen2992]

Arteta had 1 match left, literally had to get the win or he was gone, madness. But yes he was making his own stamp, the formation changed, he was getting rid of players, bringing new ones in the likes of Saliba etc. Ange seems stuck in his own ways

[@Kyng-Ace]

My problem is we went into a transfer window with the likes of Eze Sterling Sancho and many other world class playes and none of them in worrying about wages and all that bs bro pay a guy who can do the job to do it someone you admire someone a top baller. 65 mill on salanke. I'm sorry, I dont trust this guy at all. I swear we could have done better. We need a dm, and Romero is shit sometimes. Trust

[@michaelgiles7515]

Some English Spurs fans have no ticker... there is obvious growth and this young team is getting better and better every game.. if you look at results only you are blind to the exciting times ahead.. Ange will have you eating your words COYS ❤❤

[@peejayq]

💯 I can’t wait for Ange to shut everyone up

[@magras75]

the most realistic and true comment I have read. 90% of these supposed fans of the team only 8 months ago were Ange is our manager, best manager, this the manager we needed. Now is Ange out. I love the team but a lot of the fans need to go "support" another team cause they are mental.

[@peejayq]

@@magras75 💯 agree

[@chookz]

Eating words is a cheap price to pay. Until then, #AngeOut

[@magras75]

@@chookz Eating those words is easy especially when the ones you voice have no value. Just saying. Until then.

[@pkd.81]

Neville's trainwreck at Valencia tell you everything you need to know. Stick to property development and Dragons' Den, mate.

[@martinrutley-wk5ds]

He's done more than you've ever done

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

haha

[@eldante4139]

The home Spurs supporters have to be accountable too. Where was all the noise yesterday? One of the quietest times I’ve seen us play. I get that not everyone is happy, that people might not like Postecoglou, or Levy, or whatever and you can completely ignore what I’ll say when I say PLEASE give it your all at the next home match and there forwards. We’re all in this together. Thank you to those who did give their all.

[@jimmyf1446]

Are fans are plonkers, singing all day about poxy sol campbell.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I thought the atmosphere was alright tbf

[@TooDarnSoulful]

It was quiet because many are NOT convinced !

[@eldante4139]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs go back to the last time we beat them at home and compare the atmosphere then against that if yesterday. I understand people are disillusioned but ultimately we are all supporters of the team. We should give all our vocal backing as much as we can. We can worry about the other stuff when the team isn’t playing. But let’s get behind the team, make it loud, we have the opportunity in our stadium to create an intimidating atmosphere for opponents, or instead to be the second library. Which one do we want?

[@Taecoconut]

@@SonnyTalksSpursa lot of ppl commented on it (unbiased spurs journalists who were there)

[@mikerochburns4104]

I'm a Spud and I predicted a 0-2 loss, so for it to be only 0-1 is a step forward IMHO.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I mean haha

[@HDsharp]

What really worries me is our players dont play freely like other players have done playing under Ange in other teams. Our players, like always, under every manager in the past, seem to play within themselves, too scared to take risks, always take the safe option. The story of yesterday's game.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Yeah always sideways and backwards

[@simonwaters1965]

We’ve drawn one, we lost two by one goal and obviously one win. Because we haven’t won 8 and drawn two again, it’s a crisis. Season has just started. On a side note. Romero has made two mistakes and each mistake has cost us a goal each time. Arsenal 😖 unfortunately are becoming a serious contender. It’s not has bad as we think atm.

[@electricpeople]

Exactly

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Great comment

[@whenspurs]

Positives: counter defence was great, mid field defence was great Negatives: set pieces and final third have improved, slightly... we are a new team with an undefined starting 11, son and Madders are no longer 90 mins men, Ramero needs to be punished by sitting on the bench next game, Johnson can't start, Sol needs time to gel. I want to see the young boys get a start now.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

some positives I guess

[@yessirglizzy4966]

honestly agreed intergrate grey n bergval faster idm if we lose because of it i would rather fast track there development, i was also a back of extending werners loan ( squad depth,winner,fits the system) but honestly leave him on the bench to rot n let mikey come on i have seen enough of him

[@TooDarnSoulful]

£40 million for madders and he is not a 90 min man?? how spursy is that ?

[@yessirglizzy4966]

@@TooDarnSoulful arsenal payed 30m for zin and 45 for jesus whats ur point? they arent 90 min men 40 for calafori aswell who isnt a 90m man

[@TooDarnSoulful]

@@yessirglizzy4966 My point is it is a lot of money for any player that cannot last a full 90 mins ! I don't care which team pays it !

[@coys805]

14:30 You don't even have to look around us, look at us. Not a single manager since 2019 had two full seasons with us. Mourihno, Nuno, Conte, where has that left us? Also, if we hypothetically sack him, who do we bring? There's no one.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I agree

[@S.Anderson-Bey]

Edin Terzić is available and would be my choice as manager.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Doesn’t inspire me

[@peterm7548]

I'm not among the "Ange out" brigade simply because sacking him would return us to the "managerial doom loop" we were in after Poch was sacked. However he really does have to address our defensive weaknesses and the lack of finishing up front. If those issues aren't solved we will win exactly nothing this season and could finish outside the European places. Had Poch been backed and not sacked we would be in a much better place now and likely to have won something.

[@Stitchy_Angel]

agree

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

100%

[@brianmonkey1697]

It’s like dry rot , you leave it and it gets worse. The moral of the team gets worse the supporters have unrest… Be done with it NOW!… 😤

[@MrMoxicon]

It had to come...Poch would have done it for us! Bullshit.

[@jimmyf1446]

Bet you've been saying this for a nearly a year now. Been poor all round since vdv injury last year

[@snowman01]

Tottenham _should_ be losing to Arsenal at this stage. Arsenal are several seasons into their development. Arteta finished 8th-8th-5th before the team started to click. Ange is just starting

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I have to agree with this

[@peterm7548]

Good point

[@drjohnnyd7]

a set piece coach won't fix romero getting pushed in the back, they dd the same with vicario last season, FA rule change since

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

you think it was a foul?

[@jameshatfield1194]

Viacario was more involved with pushing a shoving players rather than come out ans catch or punch the ball,Nevelle was right I like Ange but we are giving away the same sort of goals which we must try and put right

[@RonaldColeman-e7p]

@@jameshatfield1194

[@JT-fh4jx]

there was a push but doesnt excuse the goal. there were other players that could have jumped but they just watch the ball and let gabriel tower over them.

[@harrytsavlidis1535]

Ange makes no excuses.

[@Q_Basic]

Man city thrashed Arsenal 5-0 in Arteta’s 2nd season in charge (without debruyne), there were some half wits calling for Arteta to get sacked, bear in mind this was also Arteta’s first managerial job. The club backed him because they had a longer term vision and it’s paid off big time. Ange has said he wants Spurs to be a success for the next 10- 20 years not just scraping top 4 with the odd carabao cup. We have to stick to our guns and build a competitive club for the future. COYS

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

A very good throwback

[@goodsense7]

We need to give him at least 2-3 seasons

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

a proper chance

[@PanischyrosAnthropos]

Everyone is right about Tottenham until Mourinho. Most journalists and media personalities have so much animosity for Mourinho and never objective when it comes to analyzing his situation at Tottenham. Everyone wanted him to fail and once he started having challenges in the second half of the season after topping the league for the first half, they made sure it ended.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Hmmm

[@karateefc]

Ange needs win a trophy & that will shut up the fan base

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Sure would

[@dcnstntn]

I agree, 12+ games, maybe close to Christmas before the sack button is considered. But we have to see the tweaks in formation, quicker transition in attack, and we must improve our set piece defending. If Ange doesn't change, he's signing his own P45.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I think he will tweak

[@frankodonnell5247]

Agree, stick with Ange, we’ve played four games, and two of those were games that we were as likely to win as lose. A lot of other teams won’t be able to cope with Angeball, and at the end of the day we will win more then lose, the biggest problem will be trying to win something and I know people are pointing to the cups, but don’t forget that in 2out of 3 of those cups you still have the likes of City and Liverpool and that lot down the road trying to win them as well. Coys

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Back this team

[@ravensongsessions6087]

For once as a club I hope we stick with our manager. I hope they back him to change the culture of mediocrity. He isn’t at any point saying set pieces aren’t important, he is saying installing a winning, hate losing mentality is far more important. He hates the Spursy tag, so do I. Arse’s management stuck with Arteta, they were brave and stuck to the vision. We need to do the same. Are people seriously questioning Solanke after 2 games? Are they gonna start booing him next? Coz that will help him find form? I think people are taking years of frustration out on Ange, rather than stepping back and saying let’s back this work in progress to be successful. Come on Spurs. Let’s turn that possession and performance into some cutting edge and play brave!

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Big up!!!

[@stephen2992]

Romero should be suspended for trying to blame the club. He is the problem. Sick of ange putting trust in the same players! Romero, johnson, maddison all suck !

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

The side needs rotation

[@stephen2992]

​@SonnyTalksSpurs exactly. But ange happy to keep trying again

[@kevm3569]

Romero is one of best players in our squad and arguably our most important player. He hasn’t had a great start to the season but he hasn’t been consistently bad throughout games he’s just had moments. I worry about Sonny honestly

[@duncantodd1267]

Ludicrous debate: Would fans rather Ange throw his hands up and says we have no way of winning anything.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

that is true

[@mathhits]

I don’t know what people possibly want. “Do you think this team is good enough to win things Ange?” “Nah not really, we’ll probably lumber to 6th and go out in the early rounds of the cups. Cheers.” Why would we not want to back a manager that believes in himself and in this team to do great things? Yeah the game was frustrating, but there’s four games played, 90%+ of the season to go. Can’t understand not getting behind the team at this point and watching as the tide turns.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Good point

[@ashleydickson62]

In another interview (at end of last season), Ange has said how emotional and hurt and angry he is after losses. So look at the growth, look at what they did well, and don't fall for the hysteria.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

🙏

[@wayneashton]

I don't see a major problem just yet with the Spurs team, we are growing and making progress, we can see the football we want to play and Ange is facilitating that. The results haven't been great as of late but it's early days, if it takes another season for Spurs to figure it out and find the groove so be it. We need to stop sacking managers and give more time and patience to the ones we employ.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

No point worrying yet

[@davidkeenan5989]

We've only lost two games, one to Arsenal. Hardly a time to panic.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Deffo not

[@davidhall8049]

Levy out his shadow is the thing holding us back he’s done at least four of are managers in not really backing them can’t keep getting rid of managers no real manager would come here with levy about

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Levy needs to let ange do his thing

[@davidhall8049]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs I agree and I do agree with Gary Neville this will be a long hard road to get there

[@Taecoconut]

Sky news “he’s rude!” - sees the clip & sees that’s not the case it’s cos the female journalist kept taking the mic away 🙄 typical sky news.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

😂

[@1710COYS]

So we need to remember where we are and where we’re going.. We are 13th in the league & going nowhere very fast.. What Neville’s saying is basically change things up right.? Do we really believe the big man will change it up.. If we’re all honest here the answer is NO!

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Only time will tell

[@wabisabi3619]

Finishing is an issue. But it will come. Spurs look good. No problem here. Did anyone really think spurs would be challenging city and arsenal this season? 🤷‍♂️ It takes time to build and implement a winning culture. Dynasties aren’t built overnight. Stay calm.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I can think of worse problems

[@richfreck]

It is no surprise that we've had a poor start to the season. Despite the investment in which Ange says that he approved on, we still are too easy to play against and have the same problems that we had last season. Yes Levy has to be accountable for bringing in Ange but he has backed the Manager and if results don't improve soon then he'll be gone. Too one dimensional for my liking and the arrogance to think we'll win something based on his track record at inferior leagues doesn't fill me with confidence based on what I've seen.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

how do you see it going?

[@danielevans8728]

Gotta give it time... it's simple. Solanke just got here. Bergvall and Gray need even longer to be able to assess how they fit in. Offensive issues are obvious, but it's been 4 games. Europa League and Carabao Cup are just about to kick off. Reassess come holiday season. The trophy comments just piled on a ton more pressure on himself..

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Fair play for having that pressure

[@Stitchy_Angel]

Spurs should have signed someone like Florian Wirtz for the CAM or even striker role

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

He's been linked to the likes of City - surely he would not come to us

[@Stitchy_Angel]

@@SonnyTalksSpursprobably but you never know until you try and we have the money

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

true

[@emperor_von_doughnuts339]

​@@Stitchy_Angel Fabrizio said hed stay for at least another year, then probably go to madrid

[@MrMoxicon]

Apparently any one of a thousand Spurs followers can do the job. Just ask them.

[@stevepollard2169]

Get the ball up the field faster and give our forwards room to move. So often wait for the opposition to get back then try to score.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

We lack a dynamic edge

[@mattpowell301]

Neville is just flogging himself off talking about defence as a former defender! Ange is being bashful also but I love it and I can’t blame him! Everywhere he has been they doubt his methods! Question his tactics / credibility etc. it seems regardless of what obstacles he overcomes he always has to listen to same shit again at the next club! My guess is, this time. He is saying out aloud what he has been thinking each and every time! Don’t bet against Ange, you will lose!

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

you ange out?

[@mattpowell301]

@@SonnyTalksSpursHell No. I am a true believer 😉

[@MyKoolTV2042]

Pep couldn’t win at Tottenham….he gets every quality player he wants, Tottenham shop at the bargain basement…mostly

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

😂😂😂

[@simonleigh7233]

It’s not White Hart Lane. Please be accurate.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I like calling it that still

[@simonleigh7233]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs if you live in the past you will never move on and you will never improve.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

haha

[@Joe-oo3gi]

We have to stick by a manager, so why not this top man who tries to play the right way. Give the geezer time ffs, COYS

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

exactly

[@JasEek]

I agree with Gary Neville analysis.. Arsenal have a stronger / strongest defence in PL. Spurs don’t have the same physical stature.. Spurs are better in ser pieces this season but moment’s ruins the game - and it’s all on Romero fault - so not manger but individuals that’s costing the game.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Yeah that was the reason

[@MrINSOMNIA24]

People asking for Postecoglou's head on a stick, or even yourself make my blood boil. Not so much you Sonny, but we have to be real here. Look at all the managers we've had, and what they've achieved when they've left us or before arriving at Tottenham. Poch left us and won Ligue 1 with Paris Saint Germain in his 1st season. Jose won the Europa Conference League, it's nothing special but it's an achievement either way. These are just an example, but my point being is we've had some of the best managers the footballing world has seen. But we can't seem to get over the line. The Champions League final was our closest. And was with a manager that we've stuck with for years. We've got to strip of ourselves with this mentally of, aaah it's the managers fault get rid of him. NO!! It wasn't until the end of last season we were still playing with players from the poch era. If we're going to do a rebuild then we have to stick by our boss Posticoglou. If it takes 2 seasons, so be it. But the improvements need to take time to set in. No point in starting a re-build, sacking the manager. Bringing in someone else, telling him to work with these players. Get some good results, new transfers mixed in with old transfers. 2 managers different views and achievement goals.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I have always backed Ange

[@MrINSOMNIA24]

@SonnyTalksSpurs and that's good. But we can't be bringing up sack conversations this early on. What good will it do. Just be like Chelsea in disguise. To anyone who reads this with that mentality, then you're not Spurs fans!!! If we're going to bring in someone to rebuild then let him rebuild. Sitting there crying we've not won a trophy in 20 odd years etc. It takes time, and we've gotta trust the process.

[@darkbee2359]

Ange should be spikey. Some Spurs fans are the most miserable bunch on earth. If we just keep firing managers until we win a trophy we don't ever deserve to win another trophy. We deserve Ryan Mason for an eternity. Arsenal are a better team. Full stop. They're 2 or 3 years further along in their "project". It's not what people want to hear but honestly 0-1 is not a terrible result. Spurs are not where they need to be... yet. I'll reserve my judgement until the end of the season. I find the relentless negativity thoroughly sickening.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Too much negativity for me

[@chancencube]

He really subbed off Madders for Werner😢😢😢😢....REALLY

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Strange one that

[@ASOneTouchFootball]

Let Madders play less mins, its better for him to avoid injury in such a high intensity game

[@tuisitala9068]

Gary is spot on. Arsenal were brilliant as defenders. We must learn how they do that. Vicario has to dominate the 6 yard box. I would pick Forster every time. Any corner floated in to the centre of the 6 yard box must be grabbed by the keeper. Our outfield players should deal with any other corner situation.There are 2 other players that should not be allowed on the pitch but the manager disagrees with me. I thought VDV, Udogie and Madders played well. Odubert also looked fine as he is a bit unpredictable in direction which is awkward for defenders. The opposite is true of Johnson and Kulu. Against a low block without good wingers our best plan is to cross further back as Madders did, like De Bruyne. It is hopeless trying to pass your way through a defence like Arsenal's. Most Premier League teams can organise a good narrow defence as we have found out already at Leicester and Newcastle. I want Ange to stay for many years because he is brave and reflects our motto. I am prepared to be patient but cannot understand why he picks certain players or plays some, like Sonny, in the wrong position.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

This result hopefully will give us the kick up the backside we need

[@Andy-y7y]

Yes losing 3 seasons in succession , after 7 seasons of success , it’s hard to take .

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Very much so

[@chancencube]

Ange has to adapt,his gungho football sometimes needs a bit of changes.if he continues like this,I don't think we will be with Ange on Christmas

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

god knows

[@mylac7105]

How many corn corner kicks they score on us because it’s not the defense. It’s the goalie he never come out and punch the ball or catch the ball. I don’t know why the coach not just for that moment the goalie is a Vantis you have to hand and he’s 6 foot four.😊

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Romero was at fault as well

[@JohnDoe-tv4zf]

The club is cursed just like the city it’s based in

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Seems it

[@emperor_von_doughnuts339]

omg surprise yall, its the HARD in hard rebuild. Bet you didnt see that coming.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

hahaha

[@emperor_von_doughnuts339]

​@@SonnyTalksSpurs I dont think we'll win something this season, but next year or next next year i can see us finally getting some silverware. The football contrary to popular opinion has been improving, our biggest weaknesses have quietly become our only weaknesses(set pieces and high line), and we're controlling games ever so slightly more than last season. We just need some momentum and confidence in order to start getting wins on the board. If ange gets sacked though...

[@kyriealom373]

Bro we defended all the set pieces very well. Gabriel shoved Romero with BOTH hands and got his header off. That should’ve been disallowed. But we wasn’t and we have to live with that. It was a VERY competitive game and arsenal are the best defensive team in world. Defensive we look 10 times better. It’s a long season and we need to look forward to Wednesday.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

We need to brush off and go again

[@kyriealom373]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs I still think it’s evident we are lacking so much quality on the pitch.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

The sides needs time to gel

[@phelanhess1112]

This team needs to fucken wake up. Dominating possession but passing the ball side to side and back. When runs are being made the ball is not being played quick enough or even at all. I would've enjoyed seeing Lo Celso been given a decent chance in that midfield, bentancur seems off the pace and too slow. Whatever the game plan is, it's not working and that's for the captain to inspire his players while on the pitch. Ange has potential, but this team seem too timid on the pitch. Honestly the armband seems to have dimmed Son's goal scoring too. I'm always hopeful we finally start to show we want to win games. The 3 losses to me were gifts to our opponents. Arsenal were not better, we just made it easy.

[@phelanhess1112]

I consider that leceister draw a loss

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

But Arsenal know how to win these games we don’t just yet

[@bakergovender3291]

For you to fix. You had 18 months and still not fixed. What principle playing side way and backwards. He as no plan B. He is arrogant

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

He is not going to solve it over night - Arsenal in 2 seasons finished 8th b2b

[@Frankchiew59]

He not confident now when he said that he win things 2nd year.😂😂😂

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

pressure is on now haha

[@vincentmccormack3629]

Controlled the game? They had us where they wanted us throughout and executed their game plan to perfection.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

It was a mixed affair but they were in 2nd gear

[@user-vvhanxiaovv]

who is top scorer in tottenham, and How Ange uses him

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

You mean in general?

[@Muffinmorris]

I think you're spot on

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Thank you

[@edsmith4821]

maybe we should lay off the guy this season and hope for a trophy . im sick of slagging the team off . Best wishes to him im just numb now i dont give a fak anymore .i think Spurs are cursed and we are the demons in purgatory to always lose

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

🙏🙏🙏

[@HarringtonBartholomew-u9d]

Martin Paul Wilson Robert Rodriguez Thomas

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

?

[@leebeckett5152]

So Coventry City next are you going to be a Man Utd or a Wolves?

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Hahaha spot on

[@aarsenalfan]

You guys are like MU, good players that can't gel. We had that problem for a decade. 😅

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

we need to keep our heads up and keep going

[@karateefc]

I don’t anyone wanted ange bit unfortunately this is results business probably the chairman might give him time but as spurs fans the football is not enjoyable

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

We’re a long way off yet - only had just over a year

[@uruemuuvbiama7587]

Poste.. Get everyone involved deeply, u have a good team. Our left wing is not proving enough. I like the wingers the top teams uses, they cause goals

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

We need to be on it in the next 2

[@zeshiiiii]

We need to loan johnson somewhere and we need a proper RW and CAM.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Would he be loaned?

[@zeshiiiii]

​@@SonnyTalksSpurs I mean nottingham fans want him back soo

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

really?

[@technodemic6258]

Win things this season? Perhaps the tea-ladie's raffle, if you're very lucky.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

😂😂😂

[@andreastheodorou9977]

Win the europa league Ange and shut up the doubters

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

🙌🙌🙌

[@arondede2666]

Whinnying Spurs fans that's your problem

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

hahaha

[@drtonyfearon7318]

Ange is in the premiership of managers. Some of the best managers in the world are those. His style of play and substitutions are in question. He is telling the Spurs fans it either my way or the highway. Ange show some respect.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Spurs fans wanted attacking football

[@TheSpursDANalyst]

Hi Sonny, sorry but your being too soft on Spurs. Ange’s system is failing, we look lost as an attacking unit. It’s not just the arsenal match but the Leicester and Newcastle games and the last 7 months previous to that. We are a team in decline, results prove it. We are one of the most easiest teams to play against. Yes Ange was not backed in the summer but why is he going along with it all, saying he is happy with who we brought in. Everyone knew what players we needed. Along side his silly statements about we can still challenge for the title and he is not focused on defending. To be a top side you must have a strong defence, u can’t out score teams every week. We are in relegation form since last season and if Ange does not change things quick he will be gone. I have lost faith in him as a manager. I liked how you put the video together 👍

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Cheers for your comment - I just don't see how sacking him solves anything - who are we going to bring in? And he was backed in the summer with some great talent - which needs a chance - I think we have shown good signs in the first 4 games we just need subtle tweaks to become potent and help the forward line link up

[@TheSpursDANalyst]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs We all know the real problem with the club comes down to Levy, we can’t do anything about that yet until there is another protest. I am now thinking there is a better manager out there who can get much more from this group of players, someone who is better tactically, so we are not getting embarrassed week in week out. Spurs are a laughing stock to rival fans and I have had enough. You say about the young talented players but they are not going to do it now, they are not even getting into the team. If u want to win in another 3 or 4 years then fine. I wanted to see improvements this season and to reduce the points gap to Man City, Arsenal & Liverpool. What happened to Mikey Moore, he contributed in preseason and now we don’t even see him. The whole thing is a mess at the moment and to be honest I can’t see it getting any better anytime soon. Listen I respect your opinion and I don’t want to be rude but people need to wake up and realise there are big issues with Ange at the moment. You are always welcome to come on my channel to discuss Spurs, different opinions make good debates.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Yeah it is levy not ange

[@jasonjordan1936]

white hart pain

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

sounds about right

[@simonleepearson]

Spurs fans are something else …. Lose to the champions elect and it’s a disaster I think they need to look at where they are in the food chain

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I tend to agree

[@pauljohn7969]

If we win and had a shite season u lot would be happy....madness.4 games in last year we were going to win the league ,4 games in sack him

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

haha

[@theimmaculated6480]

Kulu, bentencur, Johnson, Odobert, offer nothing. Nothing signings. Been ringing that bell since conte.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Odobert has got a lot of promise i think

[@kevm3569]

Kulu is very good, odobert has played 3 games, bentancur is just playing a lot deeper/injured, Johnson been shocking but he’s still young not sure what he will end up as

[@theimmaculated6480]

@@kevm3569 stop it stop it lol Kulu is too big too slow and too left footed Johnson has the football IQ of zombie. Also this youth thing you guys keep talking about never pans out for any team. What top team utilizes young players? None

[@kevm3569]

@@theimmaculated6480 Phil Foden had minutes every year for city increasing each year

[@theimmaculated6480]

@@kevm3569 because he was good enough. Also surrounded by better quality of players to mask his weaknesses and boost his strengths. Do you even watch football? lol

[@chookz]

#AngeOut New manager bounce is over. He is out of his depth

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Who do you want in?

[@darlingtonobi3324]

He will be sacked by Christmas

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Who replaces him?

[@darlingtonobi3324]

Take your pick Joachim Löw Graham Potter’s Solskjaer’s Sergio Conceicao (Porto manager ) Massimiliano Allegri Xavi Thomas Tuchel Mauricio Pochettin Niko Kovac So I’m arsenal fan, I truly believe Tottenham for the past few years have had great managers. I remember at point thinking Arsenal might be trouble. Arsenal gave Arteta time and money now look at us. Your previous managers were actually great just needed money and time Poch, Avb, Mourinho & Conte. The last two are serial winners who have won trophies. Dealt with big players and know the league. The problem now attracting other managers , if so many high profile managers with great credentials are leaving Tottenham why would a manager to go to Tottenham. Seems more like a headache. Don’t forget arteta actually loves Arsenal so he will give more. I noticed Tottenham managers afterwards become frustrated and done with Tottenham. Truthfully levy needs to get on his knees and beg Poch to come back I think he was so perfect for Tottenham. And give him what wants. If not Poch go for Graham potter or xavi

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

think that list is mediocre

[@bakergovender3291]

What Gary and Ange

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

?

[@TooDarnSoulful]

Sonny as you know I have not been convinced that Ange Ball will cut it against quality sides, when you compare Ange's CV against someone's like Thomas Tuchel what are your thoughts ? I have not got much to add really. He has not done the business at the highest level and it shows. Arsenal played much like Newcastle did sat back and took us on the break or a set peice. Vic is weak on commanding his area and every side in the prem is watching that. I think it is too early for Ange out and he should be given a chance to prove himself.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

I would not want Tuchel and I also agree with your final statement

[@palaneproductions7357]

Gidday mate, Ange can believe and say what he likes.Go past the first ten games where spurs won the league in October( new manager bounce, many are saying)....Analyse the results since then.Injuries, suspensions and international commitments reveal the squad strength.The 28 games and 4 from this season is a 12th place result.IF, you remember what I said had to happen in the last window(bring in 5 established EPL starting players) and look what happened.ONE came in and a young one with half a season as a starter.Not good enough to cope with the 50+ games this season.The youngsters may have potential but they are getting limited minutes.He wont start them unless he has to."dominating a game" is complete BS, the opposition is letting TH have the ball and waiting for the opportunity that they know will come.The prettiest girl at the dance but a DUD in bed(lol) thats what Spurs are with AngeBall.As a coach he is like a racehorse with blinkers on, tunnel vision.He should have taken one of the Championship jobs that were offered.He isnt EPL standard.YES, I hear you, its only 4 games in.These next 6 are all difficult.Four away, possibly the home fixtures will produce something???Ive seen his winning teams ALL of them.He only wins when he has superior players, forget the ladder it's a 8-14 season finish.Maybe a run in one of the domestic cups?GN makes some valid points.Lets assess in a month after this run of fixtures are past.Sorry to be the bearer of reality news but thats what I see( and have seen over the last 30 odd years).

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

🙏🙏🙏

[@ERROR_404_.]

Ange should definitely backed !

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

why do you think this?

[@ERROR_404_.]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs because We are creating lots of big chances which was negligible last year and Arsenal is very good in defence and we lacked everything in the wingers the crosses and low crosses were not good enough and Solanke was good and didn't get that amount of chances from the other attacking players and playing in a high line with Arsenal Counter attacking we had deal with that property and the only things which are being problematic are set pieces and the creation of the wingers including no.10.... And we also lack quality in the bench like we should get quality players who can delever like we had Persic...... Now the only question is how flexible Ange is with his system!

[@paulabraham9980]

On set-peices, I believe we would have gotten a better keeper that can dominate his box, Vicario might be a good shot stopper, but he's not a top side No 1 keeper. Ange is not PL coach, he's good guy, but not a PL tactician, all other managers, even the bottom club managers, always find a way to out-smart him tactically. Am not a coach, but I could tell how exactly how the Arsenal match will go, and how they will score. I have had enough of this rubbish.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

you want him sacked?

[@stephen2992]

Winning the cups in Scotland and asia is likecwinning medals in kids egg and spoon races then going to the Olympics

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Feels rude to those leagues

[@stephen2992]

I'm just using comparison to the premier league. Everyone knows, including those other leagues, they are completely opposites on the scale

[@Andy-y7y]

I don’t think Ange has any clue why it’s going wrong , perhaps he should look at his team selection , system and lack of tactics , plan A, B ,and C.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

He needs to make tweaks

[@chu2ks2dfutur]

Back to this again. Poch doesn't have a plan B. Conte doesn't have a Plan B. There's no need for Plan B

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

plan b is such a boring phrase to chuck out

[@Andy-y7y]

@@chu2ks2dfutur great coaches adapt to every situation , and every eventuality during the the game

[@Andy-y7y]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs what is boring is to say this is my system with inverted full backs , and that’s it , don’t get me wrong , I like Ange , but he’s more stubborn than Conte .

[@Mogojoegotube]

"set pieces which I think we handled very well." Well we didn't did we Ange... the only goal scored was a setpiece!

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

This season they have looked slightly better - but were awful yesterday

[@petercorbett3794]

I’m sure Ange thought Spurs should have won 2-1 or even 3-1. He won’t address why they didn’t (too many extra passes in the buildup and lack of discipline at the back) because he’s struggling with the reality that he’s never managed at this level before and thinks broad brush strokes will eventually win the day. This league has become so technical his team will always look like they’re trying to play through a brick wall. There’s a level I just don’t think Spurs are even aware of. First 20 mins v Arsenal, they drove everyone crazy taking the extra touch or the extra pass! That’s Championship football. Put ball in net! Ange ball is Championship football.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

We have a long way to go - Rome was not built in a day

[@AmandaKraft-m6n]

Gonzalez Betty Clark George Clark Deborah

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

?

[@nevillemignot1681]

Why does this bloke wear a Spurs shirt, while he is one of the most non-thinking 'Ange Out' loudest supporters?. ...........The Aussie Spurs Fan.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

what do you mean?

[@torbjornjohansson1303]

He’s not Ange out?

[@Spursman15]

😂😂😂 ange you're not winning nothing nothing

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

You spurs?

[@Spursman15]

@SonnyTalksSpurs no not spurs but a spurs fan yes and ill tell you now he ain't winning nowt haven't got the right players to suit his style got no back up tactic to change things round reluctant to play the kids the same kids that showed these players up and his subs are terrible no proper change to the right times that he gotta change it leave it too late every game

[@niibarnorsaba]

We lost to Arsenal because they had a plan and a strategy to execute that plan. We had the same Ange ball and nothing else.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Yeah we need some tweaks

[@michaelgiles7515]

How long have they been building that strategy

[@TA-wg9oi]

Please tell us what team has a plan to only have 1/3 possession, only a 75% pass accuracy and equal corners in a game...... The term 'Ange ball' has been around for over 30 years...... Making poor excuses that have no relevance does zip for committing to support along side real fans!

[@zicowilco60]

Hi sonny ......can anyone here name just one player who has improved under Mr POSTACOGLU...now that's a challenge ....OK players that have got worse then ..that's easy vicario.udogie,romero.madders......JOHNSON WERNER BISSOUMA 😮😮

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

this season or last?

[@Stitchy_Angel]

@@zicowilco60 vicaro, van de ven, Romero, udogi, have all done well

[@darkorder7994]

Ange out NOW GET RID

[@Stitchy_Angel]

He should stay arsoonal struggled also but they gave him time and look now, we should give ange time otherwise when we sign a new manager where going to be at the start of a project again and who even would be the next who’s better that we can get?

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

Got to back the team! and I do not think there is anyone better atm

[@Stitchy_Angel]

@@SonnyTalksSpurs you should make a video adressing this that people should give it time

[@Stitchy_Angel]

aslo mentioning that arsonal gave there manager time at the start even when it did not start great and look at them now

[@peterm7548]

No it would return us to chaos. Have to stick with him until at least the end of the season.

[@dystopiaeatsmoney]

I want Ange to stay. The Thought of starting again and failing again is most disheartening. I wish the fans would back the manager.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

just pointless sacking him

[@CuongLe-em6nf]

Chúng ta nên bán Sonny khi thị trường mùa đông mở cửa. Lúc này Sonny vẫn còn được giá. Biết rằng Sonny là huyền thoại của chúng ta.... nhưng ai rồi cũng phải già, ai rồi cũng phải xuống phong độ. Từ mùa trước đến mùa này và từ khi đeo băng đội trưởng cậu ta chẳng còn là Sonny như ngày xưa, cậu ta chẳng đóng góp gì vào lối chơi của cả đội. Mọi kỹ năng đều biến mất ngoại trừ những pha phản công nhờ vào tốc độ để băng lên dứt điểm. Chỉ có người Hàn Quốc là thấy cậu ta chơi hay thôi ngoài ra chẳng ai thấy cậu ta chơi hay cả. Sự thật phủ phàng là chúng ta nên chia tay Sonny trả cậu ta về cho giải K-league ..... CẬU TA ĐÃ HẾT THỜI !!!!! 😭😭😭

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

He seems off it

[@georgiegorge6679]

you last won the title in 1961 and the one other title in 1951 , say no more 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

😂